Friday Evening Open Thread: Thoughts & Prayers


 
Paulie don’t care, he’s out the door come January if not sooner…






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    NotMax says:

    Head/desk (umpteenth time).

    Trump’s HHS says lawmakers visiting immigrant children create ‘unnecessary strain’

    (AL, sent you another e-mail yesterday. If not received, please let me know.)

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    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.) says:

    I wish I could say this is a shocker. But that would be a lie.

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    lamh36 says:

    Hey Anne…did you see it’s now FIVE former wrestlers saying Jordan knew about the abuse!

    https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1015224559258259458

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    Calouste says:

    Friday Evening Open Thread: Thoughts & Prayers

    Could you mind your language? Some people are reading this blog at work.

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    NotMax says:

    Nearly a year and a half later –

    Federal prosecutors dropped all charges against the 38 remaining defendants arrested and charged with rioting during the Disrupt J20 protests on Donald Trump’s Inauguration Day. The dismissal brings an end to the nearly 18-month saga that saw 234 protesters threatened with as much as 60 years in prison for their alleged roles in the destruction of property on January 20, 2017.

    In the end, 21 people charged for their roles in the protests pleaded guilty. But prosecutors failed to get a single conviction for those cases that went in front of a jury. In a statement, the U.S. Attorney’s office in D.C. said “the results in the cases brought to trial” has led it to drop the charges against the remaining defendants. Source

    In Dolt 45 land, that’s now one more U.S. attorney to be treated as skating on very thin ice. Better think about getting a resume together right quick.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @NotMax:

    But prosecutors failed to get a single conviction for those cases that went in front of a jury. In a statement, the U.S. Attorney’s office in D.C. said “the results in the cases brought to trial” has led it to drop the charges against the remaining defendants.

    A form of jury nullification, little evidence, or was the prosecution just that incompetent?

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    Elizabelle says:

    Elvis Costello cancelled his remaining European summer tour dates; announces he is recovering from cancer surgery. In statement, says he’s got a new album out in October and hopes to tour the US in support of it. LA Times story.

    From Elvis’s statement on his website.

    “Six weeks ago my specialist called me and said, “You should start playing the Lotto”. He had rarely, if ever, seen such a small but very aggressive cancerous malignancy that could be defeated by a single surgery.

    I was elated and relieved that our European summer tour could go ahead. [Was advised he’d need 3-4 weeks recovery.]

    It was impossible to judge how this advisory would line up with the demands on a traveling musician, playing 90-minute to 2-hour plus performances [nightly, but] I was almost fooled into thinking that normal service had been resumed.

    …. The spirit has been more than willing but I have to now accept that it is going to take longer than I would have wished for me to recover my full strength. Therefore, I must reluctantly cancel all the remaining engagements of this tour.

    …. To leave you with some more optimistic news, The Imposters and I – together with several of our other friends – have made a magnificent new record of which we are truly proud. It will be issued in October, I believe. We will return at the soonest opportunity to play that music and your favourite songs that still make sense to us all.

    Take very good care of your loved ones but Gentleman, do talk to you friends – you’ll find you are not alone – seek your doctor’s advice if you are in doubt or when it is timely and act as swiftly as you may in these matters. It may save your life. Believe me, it is better than playing roulette.

    Yours through music. Elvis Costello”

    Wishing EC all the best. One of my favorites. Hope he has beat the Big C.

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    Elizabelle says:

    In moderation. Believe it’s due to a g ambl ing word. Anyway, post up about Elvis Costello.

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    NotMax says:

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Not familiar enough with the cases to say, but expect it was primarily a shadow (large enough to put Lamont Cranston to shame) of doubt.

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    lamh36 says:

    @davidhogg111
    Following Following @davidhogg111
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    Only innocent people plead the 5th 75 times. *cough @ScottforFlorida

    2:15 PM – 6 Jul 2018
    https://twitter.com/davidhogg111/status/1015313273804161026

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    lamh36 says:

    @RT_com
    2h2 hours ago
    More
    #Greenwald: I came to #Russia to combat US’ toxic view on the country

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    germy says:

    @Elizabelle: details have been vague, but I’m guessing either prostate or testicular cancer, because his announcement was something like “Gentlemen: get yourself checked”

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    lamh36 says:

    @RVAwonk
    Following Following @RVAwonk
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    NEW: Per @CNN, special counsel Mueller’s team plans to present evidence in court that there is a link between Paul Manafort’s bank fraud case and the investigation into the Trump campaign.

    5:26 PM – 6 Jul 2018

    https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1015361435541688325

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    Elizabelle says:

    @germy: Yeah, sounds like it. Be well, Elvis Costello! Live to a happy and ripe old age, with lots more snarling lyrics and guitar playing. Plus, he and Diana Krall have 12-year old sons.

    Trivia item: Elvis and Diana were married at Elton John’s home in 2003. Man in the news.

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    lamh36 says:

    MUTHA…F…

    @feliciasonmez
    Follow Follow @feliciasonmez
    More
    “Conversations in a locker room” are different from reported allegations of abuse, Rep. Jim Jordan tells @BretBaier in interview about Ohio State accusations

    5:08 PM – 6 Jul 2018

    https://twitter.com/feliciasonmez/status/1015356793428553728

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    germy says:

    @lamh36: It really is one big spider web.

    Why on earth did he want to be president? Why bring all this heat on himself?

    The NY authorities didn’t care about his hijinks for 35+ years. If he’d stayed in the private sector he could be relaxing right now, instead of facing all this scrutiny.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @lamh36:
    I thought Griftwald was living in Brazil. What’s the matter? Get recalled to the home office, Glenn?

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    NotMax says:

    @lamh36

    “Your Honor, an additional four tractor-trailer loads of evidence will be arriving at the court house shortly.”

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    Roger Moore says:

    @NotMax:

    Trump’s HHS says lawmakers visiting immigrant children create ‘unnecessary strain’

    Victim is to blame for their abuse, claims abuser.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @germy:

    At his age, prostate is far more likely, much as that may pain some of the gentlemen here for me to say.

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    Doug R says:

    @lamh36:

    @RT_com
    2h2 hours ago
    More
    #Greenwald: I came to #Russia to combat US’ toxic view on the country

    Thereby erasing all doubt as to who his boss is….

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    Elizabelle says:

    @germy: We’d be relaxing and happier too. FU, Donald J. Trump.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @lamh36: #Greenwald: I came to #Russia to combat US’ toxic view on the country

    With name recognition reaching nearly five figures, including several people who don’t think he’s a pompous clown, Greenwald’s support is seen as something of a coup for Putin among twitter users with roses in their profiles

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:

    A form of jury nullification, little evidence, or was the prosecution just that incompetent?

    My impression is that actual innocence was the underlying problem with the prosecution. I guess you could file that under either “little evidence” or “prosecution just that incompetent”, where prosecuting someone without evidence is definitely a sign of incompetence.

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    NotMax says:

    @Elizabelle

    Does not knowing who that is qualify me for free membership renewal in the Old Farts Marching and Chowder Guild?

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    Is it just me, or is the media being pretty blaise now and taking the admin’s line about families being reunited? I caught ABC News just now and I could not sense the same anger and concern that was there a few weeks ago. A reporter gave a slight laugh at the end of the segment about how they were still trying to get their heads around and gather all the details.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @lamh36:

    Brazil does have an extradition treaty with the US and will extradite US citizens who are living in Brazil.

    Russia does not.

    Just sayin’.

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    Fair Economist says:

    My town of Orange may have set its all time high remperature today. My weather report says 115, eclipsing the previous high of 113, set in – 2016. Global warming continues. On a good note, my a/c performed admirably, keeping up until it hit 112.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Eh, putting up the Elvis Costello item again. It’s cocktail hour; no interrupting the frontpagers re moderation. Anyhow:

    Elvis Costello cancelled his remaining European summer tour dates; announces he is recovering from cancer surgery. In statement, says he’s got a new album out in October and hopes to tour the US in support of it. LA Times story.

    From Elvis’s statement on his website.

    “Six weeks ago my specialist called me and said, “You should start playing the [game of chance, as in, ‘you are one lucky dude’]”. He had rarely, if ever, seen such a small but very aggressive cancerous malignancy that could be defeated by a single surgery.

    I was elated and relieved that our European summer tour could go ahead. [Was advised he’d need 3-4 weeks recovery.]

    It was impossible to judge how this advisory would line up with the demands on a traveling musician, playing 90-minute to 2-hour plus performances [nightly, but] I was almost fooled into thinking that normal service had been resumed.

    …. The spirit has been more than willing but I have to now accept that it is going to take longer than I would have wished for me to recover my full strength. Therefore, I must reluctantly cancel all the remaining engagements of this tour.

    …. To leave you with some more optimistic news, The Imposters and I – together with several of our other friends – have made a magnificent new record of which we are truly proud. It will be issued in October, I believe. We will return at the soonest opportunity to play that music and your favourite songs that still make sense to us all.

    Take very good care of your loved ones but Gentleman, do talk to you friends – you’ll find you are not alone – seek your doctor’s advice if you are in doubt or when it is timely and act as swiftly as you may in these matters. It may save your life. Believe me, it is better than [taking chances with your health].”

    Yours through music. Elvis Costello”

    Wishing EC all the best. One of my favorites. Hope he has beat the Big C.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @NotMax:

    If you don’t know who Elvis Costello is then, yes, you’ve been an old fart for quite some time. His first gold-selling album was released in 1977.

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    NotMax says:

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Sad but true that, on TV, lack of fresh pictures and/or fresh scandal relegates things to the back burner.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Hm. It may be testicular cancer after all. Most men are fairly willing to publicly discuss their prostates or colons these days when it comes to cancer diagnoses, but testicular cancer is still a little embarrassing.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @NotMax: Yes. You be kidding me? Watching the Detectives, and Allison, and Tramp the Dirt Down about Margaret Thatcher? If you do not know Mr. Costello, you are in for a treat.

    “New wave” artist; long career since. Terrific songwriter.

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    The Dangerman says:

    San Bernardino holding in at 113; damn. Here’s hoping Pasadena and Glendale are cooling down a little (almost scared to look after a lengthy nap).

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @lamh36: He no longer lives in the U.S. so he can stay in Russia for all I care. He’s such a Trump apologist that it’s almost shocking that he used to write for Salon.

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    EBT says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: Two and Three. They tried to say a bunch of people were rioting because they were ketteled in to a street. It was a huge shitshow of a series of trials for the prosecution who pretty much ran with the same losing series of arguments for each trial.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mnemosyne: Think Lance Armstrong had testicular cancer? Although that is hardly the most shocking news to remember him for …

    And Rudy Giuliani had prostate surgery, but seems to still be kinda frisky. (In the news lately for stepping out with another woman before divorce proceedings were underway. As is his habit.)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    NotMax strikes me as a guy who would prefer Costello’s collaboration with Burt Bacharach. 😘

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: The MSM has gone overboard in trying to normalize Trump and his antics. When he said that he could go on a public street and shoot someone dead and not lose supporters, he was referring to supporters within and without the MSM.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Never been much of a follower or listener of modern pop music. Possibly heard the name at some point and then forgot it.

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Also too, it’s ABC. Disney salivating for the Fox deal and doesn’t want any late arriving regulatory ripples.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @germy: He thought he was going to lose but he was going to create TRumpTV with Ailes and make millions!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @lamh36: Shot:

    Chaser:

    He’s toast.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    IIRC (and I am not a doctor), testicular cancer is most common in young men, and Declan Patrick Alyosius MacManus is no longer a young man. But it’s not unheard of in older men by any means.

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    germy says:

    @Mnemosyne: One of the finest lyricists of his generation, or of any generation.

    I started collecting his records way back in the ’70s. Saw him at Radio City Music Hall in 1982 or 83, with Nick Lowe as opening act.

    I think he’s best with just an acoustic guitar. I actually prefer some of his demos to the final recordings. (“Black And White World” for example)

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    Fair Economist says:

    @Fair Economist: Make that 116.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @germy: He’s never had to face consequences for anything he’s ever done before. Why should it be any different being President of the US?

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @NotMax: Ever watch History Detectives? Elvis is the theme song.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Bill Cosby thought he could swat down the accusations against him by attacking the first couple of accusers.

    Apparently Jordan learned nothing from that.

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    @Mnemosyne: Elvis has also worked with Sir Paul.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: They used doctored video obtained from O’Keefe. They significantly overcharged because they were pushed to do so when there was no US Attorney in place and the folks on the DOJ landing team made this a priority. As a result they charged everyone on the street with the max, rather than finding the one or two people actually responsible for breaking a couple of windows and setting a trash can or two on fire and charging them appropriately.

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    debbie says:

    @Elizabelle:

    More punk than New Wave, I think, but great nonetheless. Popularizer of nerdy glasses too, I believe. i wish him the best.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Elizabelle: I released it.

    In the future either comment about Elvis or Lou Costello. Please don’t conflate them. We thank you for your support!//

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    I was assuming that Sir Paul is also a little too modern for NotMax. 😂

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    Another Scott says:

    @NotMax: The lyrics for “Watching the Detectives” are great:

    Nice girls, not one with a defect
    Cellophane shrink-wrapped, so correct
    Red dogs under illegal legs
    She looks so good that he gets down and begs

    She is watching the detectives
    “Ooh, he’s so cute”
    She is watching the detectives
    When they shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot
    They beat him up until the teardrops start
    But he can’t be wounded ’cause he’s got no heart

    Long shot at that jumping sign
    Invisible shivers running down my spine
    Cut to baby taking off her clothes
    Close-up of the sign that says “We never close”
    He snatches at you and you match his cigarette
    She pulls the eyes out with a face like a magnet
    I don’t know how much more of this I can take
    She’s filing her nails while they’re dragging the lake

    […]

    :-)

    He’s a master.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @lamh36: Had to get his annual review done. They did the one for GOP senators not up for reelection this week. And they do the President’s in about ten days. July’s a busy month for Russian HR folks…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:

    ABC News is pretty conservative, unfortunately. They were really bad while Obama was in office.

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    germy says:

    @lollipopguild: He underestimated the venality of the republican base.

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    NotMax says:

    @A Ghost To Most

    Negatory on that.

    As said, may have heard the name and forgotten it. Absolutely loathe Presley, so anything Elvis is not an item the brain is wired to retain.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @lamh36:

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    Felony Govt says:

    @Elizabelle: One of my favorites too. I was excited to run into him at the Los Angeles airport years ago. I wish him the best.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    JoPa is the more apt analogy.

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    @Mnemosyne: True, Sir Paul’s only been in the music business since 1957.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Thank you, Adam. My money was on you rescuing the comment.

    @Felony Govt: Lucky you! Does he snarl in real life? (I am thinking no.)

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Another Scott:

    And that’s just from his first album. He got better and better as the years went on.

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    germy says:

    @NotMax:

    Absolutely loathe Presley, so anything Elvis is not an item the brain is wired to retain.

    Headline: “Rita Moreno Says Sex With Elvis Was “Amateur Hour” Compared To Marlon Brando”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Bill Cosby is, at least, a smart person. Jim Jordan is not.

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    B.B.A. says:

    @debbie: The nerdy glasses run in the family.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: (cough) Johnathon “John Birch Society” Karl (cough)

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    Quinerly says:

    “cesspool of deviancy”
    Stick a fork in Jordan. He’s done.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/06/jim-jordan-harassment-ohio-state-wrestling-699192

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Elizabelle: My meatballs and marinara are simmering, so I have a few minutes to spare.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Betsy DeVos is so dumb that if she were to walk down the street and see a stop sign, she’d stand there and wait for it to turn green.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Another Scott: I just love that. A favorite lyric.

    She’s filing her nails while they’re dragging the lake.

    Raymond Chandler approves.

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    @Adam L Silverman: I ain’t cooking nothing in this heat.

    ETA: The temperature seems to finally be dropping(slowly).

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    EBT says:

    @Mnemosyne: The only good thing Tom Green did was talk about his testicular cancer loudly, every chance he could.

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    EBT says:

    FYI Everytime I hear Elvis Costello’s name I think of Jello Biafra for a moment.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: We have that new fangled centralized conditioned air.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @EBT: @Adam L Silverman:
    Thanks! I thought Trump’s incompetence played a role.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    I ain’t cooking nothing in this heat.

    Shrimp cocktail and margaritas tonight. Damn, gotta love Costco (more if they kept the margaritas cold but … what ya gonna do).

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    @Adam L Silverman: Centralized Air? Sounds like a communist plot.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mnemosyne

    Actually am more of a Gershwin/Porter/Joplin/Confrey/big band/Mills Bros./Andrews Sisters kind of guy, outside of a longtime love for classical and Gilbert & Sullivan.

    Takes all kinds to make a horse race, as the saying goes.

    But more than enough about me. Do not want to derail the thread.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Patricia Kayden: It was during the all Greenwald, all the time era that I stopped reading Salon. Have had no impulse to start reading it again.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @NotMax: We agree on Presley. I feel the same about Sinatra and the Rat Pack.

    My Elvis is Costello.

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    david says:

    @germy: Creditors came calling.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: It came with a 5 year plan.

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    germy says:

    @Jay: Peace Love Understanding was written by Nick Lowe.

    Good Year For The Roses was written by Jerry Chesnut for George Jones.

    Elvis is an excellent songwriter, but he also does a great job covering other artists.

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    NotMax says:

    @BillinGlendaleCA

    No, no, no, it is Lenin’s tomb that is a Communist plot.

    :)

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    @A Ghost To Most: I saw Frank and Sammy in the late 80’s(Madame won free tickets).

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    chopper says:

    @NotMax:

    he’s right, marx my words.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    I was supposed to go to a writing event in Encino, but it got canceled due to the heat. 😢 The hostess was concerned that her AC wouldn’t be able to handle having guests.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: they didn’t break any constitutional laws and this was a political show trial.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Do the Elders know about this?

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    Elizabelle says:

    Elvis Costello’s tour dates for the fall. May he keep these engagements, and be cancer free and back in the pink, for him, anyway.

    Kicking it off November 2 in Bethlehem, PA, then to DAR Hall in DC and many wonderful mid-sized venues around the country. Finishes early December in Victoria, Canada.

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    Quinerly says:

    @germy: love Nick Lowe. He never gets enough credit. Plus, he had a cool FIL. 💜

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    @NotMax: Are you sure, or is it Lennon’s tomb?

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    germy says:

    @NotMax: Early Mills Brothers. Some of my favorite recordings.

    Especially this one with Ella:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rCRP_XzZrI

    (The thing about Elvis Costello, he loves those artists as well. Unlike most of his “punk rock” peers, he had an encyclopedic knowledge of the Great American Songbook at an early age, because his father was a bandleader.)

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    Quinerly says:

    @Elizabelle: saw Elvis a few years back at NOLA’s Jazz and Heritage Fest. Great show. The years run together but believe it was post Katrina.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @NotMax:

    Ah, so we need to use The Juliet Letters to win you over:

    https://youtu.be/_LyS_M8egK8

    You’re welcome.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    So, I was working on the night of the 4th of July. I was the only cashier. I had this fat, old idiot in his patriotic shirt come through my line. He just had to tell me that he was glad he was able to pick up some produce that was “made in the USA”. I flatly asked him why? He said he was sick of fruits and vegetables always coming from Canada and Mexico. He added that we had so much land, why would we need to get so much from those two places? I just said ok and moved on.

    I wanted to ask him, “Dude, you do realize we’re the breadbasket of the world, right? We export our agricultural products all over the world, including Canada and Mexico. We’re already using all of the available arable land in the US.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I would have rather slit my wrists. YMMV.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Roger Moore: yeah, this.

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    hervevillechaizelounge says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Hot take: Elvis (Costello) is racist straight up and plain; I don’t forgive the ugly shit he said about Ray Charles.

    And Elton John played Rush Limbaugh’s wedding; fuck him as well.

    We need better heroes.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @germy: We all did. We also underestimated the need for (cough) racists(cough) to get “even” with the country for electing Obama twice.

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    Shana says:

    A friend of mine, many years ago, when someone mentioned Elvis asked “the good one or the dead one?” This was not too long after Presley died when all we snot-nosed 20-somethings knew of him really was the Vegas jumpsuited Elvis, so cut us a little slack. Still a good line though.

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    @A Ghost To Most: It was actually a pretty good show, Rickels was in the audience.

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    Quinerly says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: saw Sammy Thanksgiving Day, 1983 at the Fabulous Fox here in St. Louis. Third row seats. Rita Moreno opened for him. Great shows. I was a big Dean fan as a child. (yes, I was an odd 6 year old in ’67) Sammy was next favorite. 💚

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mnemosyne: Linky’s not working. Got a 404 message

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    germy says:

    @Quinerly: Elvis Presley wanted to be Dean Martin, apparently. Many of his fans don’t know that.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Adam L Silverman: So when does Jordan step down like Senator Franken? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Quinerly: How lucky to have seen more than one of that NOLA festival. Cool.

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    ruemara says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: Next time someone that stupid talks to you, point out that much of what he buys from other countries is OUT OF FUCKING SEASON, so if he wants strawberries in fall, that’s why they come from other countries. Bloody idiot.

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    NotMax says:

    @germy

    FYI for those who may click on that and don’t know – there are no brass instruments and no woodwinds being played in that recording.

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    Jay says:

    @germy:

    I was foot traffic on a Saltspring Island ferry once, and there was a couple on the upper deck, surrounded by a crowd, singing songs from the Great Canadian Songbook, playing acoustic guitars.

    Only as the songs ended, the ferry docked and the crowd applauded, did I notice who the singers were.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwFYUZn-g6Y

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    germy says:

    @NotMax: That’s the beautiful thing. I love those old recordings. Perfection.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Not for me. I did see the Little Feat revival concert with Craig Fuller in 1988.
    Not Lowell George, but better than the Rat Pack.

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    Percysowner says:

    Among the ‘Putative Parents’

    The Trump administration is making some remarkable arguments in the on-going child/family separation cases, making it seem like they actually want to slow roll their way into making the separations permanent. As Alice Ollstein explains, the government says it needs more time to determine whether the “putative parents” (i.e., people saying they want their kids back) are in fact real parents (people with a true custodial relationship to the children in question) and further whether are fit parents. In other words, having used the criminal law to meet the very high standard required to separate children from their parents, the government is now arguing that it needs to apply a very high standard to give them back. The government is further arguing that it should not be compelled to reunify families in which parents have already been deported because of the difficulty of doing so.

    This is certainly not the country I grew up in, I just hope we can somehow get back our basic decency. Tumbrils wouldn’t hurt.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @hervevillechaizelounge:

    Costello publicly apologized, in writing, and Ray Charles (who was not actually present) accepted that apology.

    Costello also stopped drinking shortly after that fiasco.

    Are we never allowed to forgive someone who makes a drunken rant and then apologizes profusely afterwards?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Let me try a naked link:

    https://youtu.be/uvY1k1tNpcM

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    germy says:

    @Mnemosyne: He spoke about it recently to T’Questlove. It was the Elephant In The Room.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Elizabelle: I had about a 15 year run. Could touch the stage for Dylan one year (I know he saw me 😈), felt like I might faint from swooning over Bruce the first fest after Katrina, and then there are the Randy Newman, Van Morrison, Willie, and Jimmy B years… plus, completely drenched from rain and covered in mud for a too small of audience for Maria Muldaur in ’93. And then there’s the stuff I don’t remember😈😈

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @germy:

    I’ll have to watch that when I get home tonight — still at work.

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    NotMax says:

    @Quinerly

    And then there’s the stuff I don’t remember

    Leon Redbone?

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Mnemosyne: Love me some Johnny Cash. Thank you much. Elvis Costello and Trent Reznor.

    Carlene Carter was married to Nick Lowe for a spell. (Long spell, 1979-90.)

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Quinerly: Lucky bug!

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Percysowner:

    The government is further arguing that it should not be compelled to reunify families in which parents have already been deported because of the difficulty of doing so.

    What a crock. They should be compelled because it was their fuck up to begin with.

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    Quinerly says:

    @germy: never cared for EP. I did have a “dust up” the other night with Amazon’s Echo/Alexa. I requested a rather obscure Michael Nesmith (The Monkees) song and she tried to shake me down for $3.99. youtube didn’t argue https://youtu.be/85n7p6OZp5E

    BTW, Michael Nesmith puts on a great show. Really appreciates his audience

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @NotMax: Actually am more of a Gershwin/Porter/Joplin/Confrey/big band/Mills Bros./Andrews Sisters kind of guy,

    I borrowed my sister’s car a while back and she had the standards stations on XM as presets, one of them I think called the Sinatra channel but lots of non-Sinatra. I was surpsried how much I enjoyed it, and now that I’m thinking about it I forgot to make fun of my sister for having that old people’s music

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @ruemara:
    I wish I could remember what he was buying.

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    Felony Govt says:

    @Elizabelle: No snarl, but as nerdy looking as you would expect. 😀

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    Quinerly says:

    @NotMax: seen him. Not at Jazz Fest, though.
    Also, have seen my favorite Leon 3 times. Rip, Mr. Russell.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    I wish Elvis Costello the very best in his recovery, because Costello and because Fuck Cancer! I was a huge fan of his wife long before I ever heard of him, but have come to admire his musicianship very much.

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    NotMax says:

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    “It’s too difficult to cut all those Social Security checks every month and we shouldn’t have to suffer such a burden.”

    Not making light in any way of the immigrant crisis, more like a preview of what’s coming down the pike.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: She should’ve gotten the 5 year plan too!//

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    Gravenstone says:

    @lamh36: Just a matter of time before someone comes forward alleging he participated in it as well.

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    NotMax says:

    @Quinerly

    Color me jealous.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Yes, I got the global conspiracy discount plus 5% cash back for using my SorosBucks Card.

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    chris says:

    Going from strength to strength, the shitgibbon continues to amaze.

    Trump to the Washington Post ahead of his Europe trip: “Immigration is destroying Europe as we know it and it is very sad to be witness to what is happening.” https://t.co/97ghu5PYGm— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) 6 July 2018

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @NotMax:
    Didn’t think you were. Let them take an inch, they’ll seize a mile

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    NotMax says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Amazing what a difference being able to make out the lyrics makes, innit?

    ;)

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    Quinerly says:

    @NotMax: well, there is that picture of me under some bleachers at Jazz Fest with Adam Duritz (Counting Crows). He sure was a cutie.😈 Let’s not tell anyone. I’d hate to get a reputation on Balloon Juice. It can be our little secret… OK?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Yep. The music video for “Cruel to Be Kind” includes footage of their wedding.

    Apparently the divorce was reasonably amicable and Lowe was able to stay friendly with Johnny and June.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @chris:
    Actually, racism, authoritarianism, and Russia. Oh and you and your stupid tariffs. Fuck you.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    Prostate is far more common but the surgery takes a while to fully recover from. It is fairly major surgery if that is required. Testicular is, as I understand it pretty much surgery. However the age for that is generally in the 25-35 age group, prostate is generally over 60 and at some point most men will get it. Often it is not a problem with the growth rate and the age at the time of diagnosis.

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    NotMax says:

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Must have said it a thousand times on my old blog during the entirety of the woebegone W years :

    Give them an inch and they’ll take the yardstick.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @chris: I wonder if he’ll start talking about his friend Jim again, who spends half his life in Paris and doesn’t recognize it anymore! He stopped talking about Jim during the campaign when someone asked him Jim’s last name.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Ruckus:

    My late father-in-law was lucky enough to get an aggressive prostate tumor. Whee! We were never quite sure if it ended up being related to his eventual brain tumor — some doctors said yes, some said no.

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    NotMax says:

    @Quinerly

    My lips are sealed. Shall have to drink the martini(s) through a straw this evening.

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    Quinerly says:

    @A Ghost To Most: seen several incarnations of Little Feat over the years but Lowell was dead by the time I became a true fan. I guess the best Little Feat show for me was when the guy from Pure Prairie League was with them doing lead. Can’t think of his name. One year I saw them in NOLA and they had a chick singing lead… think that might have only been a one tour kinda thing.

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    Quinerly says:

    @NotMax: ohhhhh… Martinis? Boodles Gin, I hope…. and a little dirty?

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    HeleninEire says:

    Everyone yell YAY MARY. A few weeks ago raven talked about his wife retiring and he talked about how hard and scary it can be. I chimed in about my friend Mary. She retired a few weeks ago at 65 after having worked for 50 years. She was scared of retirement too.

    The day that raven posted, Mary got on a plane to France intending to walk the entire Camino.

    Well today she made it to Santiago. 500 miles in 38 days.

    Mary was one of my first friends here. She greeted me with open arms. I cried my eyes out today.

    Everyone yell YAY MARY. And may we all be so brave at 65.

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    chris says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ha. Jim moved to Moscow, he’s fine now.

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: Um… OK

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @chris:
    Talking to Trump, not you.

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    Mary G says:

    @Adam L Silverman: He really is dumb as a stump, innit he? He’ll be a martyr to Fake News amongst the 27%, but this is just another nail in the coffin of the Repub’s approval with women voters, who are at white-not rage about the immigrant children, even if the media is off chasing the dreadful treatment of Alan Dersh, TV pundit supposed to be off limits, because he’s One of Us.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @HeleninEire: YAY MARY.

    That is an achievement. Well done.

    Also, where is Baud? He is hardly around. Is that permissible under his contract?

    ETA, to be nice: I miss Baud.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Fair Economist:
    My vehicle thermometer showed 122 on the way home today in the SG Valley. I’m not sure that was correct but it did feel somewhat warm.

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    NotMax says:

    @Quinerly

    Does cocktail onion brine in place of olive brine count? Not about to open the hogshead of worms that liquor brand preferences is. Except to say when it comes to dry vermouth, Noilly Prat or nuthin’.

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    NotMax says:

    @HeleninEire

    Ginger Rogers did it backwards and in heels.

    Oh, wait, that was something else.

    :)

    Yay, Mary.

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    @Ruckus: Probably picking up some radiant heat from the road. It’s 103 in my bedroom(un-air conditioned).

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    They were really bad while Obama was in office

    ALL the media was bad when Obama was in office – got to remember the brown suits, mustard and beer summit

    Trump arrives and they roll over waiting to be petted. The ONLY valid reason for any of this is black skin vs white (well orange) skin

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    HeleninEire says:

    @Elizabelle: Baud is back from his mysterious holiday. I think I saw him today. Yeah I miss him when he disappears (as in gets a life unlike the rest of us :).

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    chris says:

    In more uplifting news today’s google.ca doodle celebrates the birthday of Viola Desmond. Almost 10 years before Rosa Parks she changed Canada’s segregation laws right here in Nova Scotia.

    Wish I could say that racism has since vanished but that is not the case.

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    Quinerly says:

    @NotMax: I skip the vermouth. 😈

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    Mary G says:

    @HeleninEire: Yay, Mary!

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    HeleninEire says:

    @NotMax:

    :)

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    rikyrah says:

    Adam Parkhomenko
    ‏Verified account @AdamParkhomenko

    Manafort has at times sobbed “daily” “been suicidal” and had “a whole shadow government” long claimed by Gates Re: Manafort and much more. Listen here to the Manafort story:

    https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/965633714385510402

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    Miss Bianca says:

    Oh, Lord, L’ingMAO at that first tweet!

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    You work for Disney, right?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    These otters have the right idea for So Cal right now:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/OregonZoo/status/1015283727797063683

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    Ruckus says:

    @NotMax:
    You do realize that you have to work to get a SS check don’t you? Normally they don’t print checks anymore. Direct deposit is the norm. One can get a check but there has to be a very reasonable need.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Elizabelle: speaking of Mr. Lowe, here’s a great song. Saw him in an intimate setting here in St. Louis when he was touring for this album. He also did an interview with Terry Gross about the same time. Talked about the background of this song, plus he talked about how close he was to Johnny Cash.
    https://youtu.be/pIBAhNn-mBQ

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:

    He said he was sick of fruits and vegetables always coming from Canada and Mexico. He added that we had so much land, why would we need to get so much from those two places?

    If you restrict yourself to buying stuff that’s in season locally, you can buy all your produce from American farmers. If you want to buy tomatoes in January, you’re going to have to import them. Even here in California, the vegetable basket of America, your selection in January is limited.

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    rikyrah says:

    Brian Schatz
    ‏Verified account @brianschatz

    Just got off a conference call with HHS about reuniting kids with their parents. They read from a script for around 20 minutes and then they took only 3 questions from Senators. It was Orwellian in its overconfidence and vagueness. I am more, not less worried for these kids.
    11:40 AM – 6 Jul 2018

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Adam L Silverman: God, I can only *hope* he’s toast! Pleasepleasepleaseplease…and some justice for these young men, please, also, too.

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    rikyrah says:

    GOP governor cuts health care budget to prevent Planned Parenthood funding

    By Justin Wise – 07/06/18 05:06 PM EDT

    South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster (R) is eliminating part of the state’s health care budget to make sure no funding goes to abortion providers.

    The State reported on Friday that McMaster vetoed nearly $16 million in health care services — a move that came with the goal of defunding abortion clinics such as Planned Parenthood.

    “Taxpayer dollars must not directly or indirectly subsidize abortion providers like Planned Parenthood,” McMaster told The State. “There are a variety of agencies, clinics and medical entities in South Carolina that receive taxpayer funding [that] offer important women’s health and family-planning services without performing abortions.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/39.....od-funding

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    A lot of Vietnam vets have aggressive prostate cancer from Agent Orange. Another issue is that black men are more susceptible to prostate cancer and if one is a black Vietnam Vet, it’s a pretty good bet, it will be aggressive. With the aggressive cancer, generally they do surgery and then radiation treatment. I’ve been told that the side effects of the surgery are less than totally satisfactory.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Another Scott: I was just watching the first season of “Elementary”, and the pilot episode finished with “Watching the Detectives”. At which point, I was like, “aw, yeah.”

    Altho’ I have mixed feelings about Elvis the man, as opposed to Elvis the artist, as a dear friend of mine worked with Elvis Costello as a guitar tech, and said he was a SOB to work for. But still…a *brilliant* SOB. Hoping he pulls thru’ and that he and Diana and his family have many more years together.

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    NotMax says:

    @Ruckus

    “Having all those millions of open connections to banks is a serious national security threat and must be shut down for the safety of the country and the American people.”

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    debbie says:

    @rikyrah:

    NPR reported today that the parents of 19 children under age 5 were deported before being reunited with their children. If that isn’t showing bad faith, I don’t know what is.

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    Haroldo says:

    @germy: If you can find it, chase down a record of his with Bill Frisell on guitar. I remember it most fondly.

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    OldDave says:

    @Quinerly:

    Fabulous Fox here in St. Louis

    Apropos of little – I love that place. Just an amazing interior. Saw Mark Knopfler there in 2010 or so.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Mnemosyne: A dear friend of mine recently lost her 18 year old son to testicular cancer. He was asymptomatic until it metastasized into a couple other major organs. 10 days from diagnosis to death. Needless to say it’s been a brutal time for her. A disease never to be taken lightly.

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    Ruckus says:

    @NotMax:
    You not funny!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @NotMax:

    Was never a Presley fan, although I was decidedly the right age for him. In fact, I remember feeling very superior indeed to my classmates in Junior High who were creaming themselves with every twitch of his hips.

    Back when I followed ice skating, I was a big fan of Elvis Stojko.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @rikyrah:

    Gosh, and the police haven’t even kidnapped his children and put them in cages yet.

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    rikyrah says:

    Brother Tyrone X
    ‏ @tyrone345345

    The Philadelphia zoo , a white security women called the cops on a group of black kids who were raising money for football. Watching the video you can hear her coworker asking her why did she do it? And crying . Her response was i wanted them to leave .

    https://twitter.com/tyrone345345/status/1015225107625791488

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    germy says:

    @Miss Bianca:

    some justice for these young men, please, also, too.

    The doctor committed suicide a few years ago. Would have been better justice to see him in court.

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    germy says:

    @rikyrah: White people using 9-1-1 like it’s a customer service line.

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    Quinerly says:

    @OldDave: love me some Knopfler. “Romeo and Juliet” is one of my all time favorite songs. Sadly, I have never seen him. Something always keeps me away. I remember when he was here at the Fox. I was out of town.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @TS (the original):

    The ONLY valid reason for any of this is black skin vs white (well orange) skin

    I think their party affiliation has at least as much to do with it. At the very least, the media wasn’t any more interested in fawning over Hillary than they were in fawning over Obama.

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    Ruckus says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:
    NOAA said it was 116 in Covina at 3pm. The air hitting you at speed felt like it was burning you.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Quinerly:

    I skip the vermouth.

    If you skip the vermouth, you’re just drinking gin, not a martini.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Shana: I remember becoming aware of Elvis Presley through those K-Tel! Records! ads that began airing in the 70s, just before Elvis died and he was in his rhinestone-suited Las Vegas days. I didn’t get it, I really didn’t.

    Then after he was dead, I finally saw some footage of “Elvis the Pelvis” from the 50s – the stuff that got White Middle America all hot and bothered – and I was like, “DAYYYYYYUMMM, man – *now* I get it!”

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    rikyrah says:

    WOMP WOMP

    Jennifer Jacobs
    ‏Verified account @JenniferJJacobs

    Jennifer Jacobs Retweeted Jennifer Jacobs

    LATEST: Scott Pruitt is devastated by his ouster, I’m told.

    He didn’t resign voluntarily, like Trump told us, but under pressure: John Kelly delivered a message from president that it was time to go.

    Pruitt was at EPA hq today and said goodbye to staff.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-06/pruitt-said-to-have-been-told-to-resign-in-call-from-white-house

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    debbie says:

    @B.B.A.:

    Wonderful! Thanks for sharing. Love the rotating percussion section!

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Divine providence indeed.

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    germy says:

    @Haroldo: Deep Dead Blue

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    Quinerly says:

    @Roger Moore: yes, and your point is? 😈
    I do put a garlic stuffed olive in it. It’s in a proper glass.

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    debbie says:

    @Quinerly:

    Seconded. My favorite is Brothers in Arms.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: Shame you didn’t remind him that foods aren’t in season all year long. So we have to import all manner of shit to cater to American tastes when it’s out of season locally.

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    rikyrah says:

    THREAD

    Xeni Jardin
    ‏Verified account @xeni

    Russia is the last great whiteness superpower. That’s what these white supremacist lawmakers of ours believe and why they can justify handing America over on a platter. They value white supremacy over democracy.
    5:23 AM – 5 Jul 2018

    https://twitter.com/xeni/status/1014847312219107328

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Quinerly: *LOVE* The Monkees. Love Mike Nesmith – who was in a tie for my favorite Monkee with Peter Tork.

    Had a strangely erotic dream about young Mike Nesmith the other night…when I woke up, I pinched myself and mumbled, severely, “he’s in his 70s now and has NO HAIR, MB. Fuhgeddaboutit!”

    However, the realization that given all that, I *still* wouldn’t kick him out off bed made me LOL! :

    ETA: God DAMN you, WP and auto-correct! WTF? “Monkey?” “Peter Work?”

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Not if you are a republican. Only democrats are expected to stand down.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @rikyrah:

    I see the Philly cops didn’t learn a thing after their self-created Starbucks problem. 😒

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    NotMax says:

    @Ruckus

    “Qualified recipients may pick up their payments in cash in the third sub-basement of their nearest Social Security office between the hours of 11 and 11:15 a.m. every other Tuesday. Please bring 45 forms of acceptable ID.”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @rikyrah: If anyone saw the story of Pool Cop Paulie (real name Adam Bloom), he lost his job and has been asked to resign from the HOA

    WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. —
    Adam Bloom, the former homeowner’s association board member who lost his job on Friday as a result of a “traumatizing” confrontation with a black woman at a Winston-Salem pool when he asked to see her identification on the Fourth of July issued an apology Friday afternoon.
    The incident was captured on video and shows a confrontation between Bloom and a community resident from the Glenridge neighborhood in Winston-Salem, Jasmine Edwards Abhulimen.
    Abhulimen was enjoying the holiday at the pool when Bloom asked for her address and an ID to prove she was a resident. Abhulimen reportedly gave her address but refused to turn over an ID.

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    Mainmata says:

    @Elizabelle: Wow, I did not know that. What a lucky little kid.

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    rikyrah says:

    SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN

    The Hoarse Whisperer
    ‏ @HoarseWisperer

    The Hoarse Whisperer Retweeted Matthew Miller

    The media has yet to call this out with the sharpness it deserves:

    The Trump Administration fully intended to traffic immigrant children away from their parents permanently as punishment for attempting to seek asylum in the United States – even when that was done legally.

    https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/1015333569676234753

    Matthew Miller
    ‏Verified account @matthewamiller

    Matthew Miller Retweeted Washington Post

    This is so inexcusable. They separated these families without any plan for how to reunite them, and it’s clear the agencies are trying to piece things back together with zero leadership or coordination from the WH.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Miss Bianca: oh, my. I loved Mickey. Glad we aren’t in competition for the same Monkee.You sound kinda tough. 😈

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    Ruckus says:

    @NotMax:
    Now that sounds something like what these asswipes would do. I’d say intentionally but one always has to accept that pure incompetence is always a likely cause in this maladministration.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @chris: Stephen Miller is Grima Wormtongue. Trump is a bigot, no question, but that phrasing smacks of Miller’s white supremacist crap.

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    germy says:

    @Quinerly: from what I understand, Nesmith/Dolenz were on tour this year, but some dates had to be cancelled because of a health emergency with Nesmith?

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    rikyrah says:

    You👏are👏a👏pedophile👏, Muthaphucka👏😠

    Felicia Sonmez
    ‏Verified account @feliciasonmez

    “Conversations in a locker room” are different from reported allegations of abuse, Rep. Jim Jordan tells @BretBaier in interview about Ohio State accusations
    3:08 PM – 6 Jul 2018

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Percysowner:

    The government is further arguing that it should not be compelled to reunify families in which parents have already been deported because of the difficulty of doing so.

    So they grow up in foster homes in the US and when they turn 18 they get deported because they are not US citizens – end up who knows where having NO idea who their parents are. People who abduct young children – spend a lifetime in jail – which is where anyone, who was part of this debacle should be.

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    OldDave says:

    @Quinerly: It’s a shame you missed that concert – they played “Brothers in Arms” that time. SWMBO and I also saw him in 2015 in Ft. Lauderdale – the performance of “Romeo and Juliet” at that show made the “Best of Tracker Tour” collection we have around here somewhere on a guitar shaped USB key.

    What obscure Nesmith song? We’re big fans.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Quinerly: Funny, Mickey and Davey were *not* my faves, and yet they sang all my favorite songs!

    Yeah, right…”don’t touch my favorite hypothetical Monkee or I’ll cut you!”? Err…not so much. ; )

    ETA: Oh, by the way…you should meet my friend Kevin Renick! He lives in St Louis….and here’s his interview with Mickey D!

    http://zacharymule.com/wp/?tag=artist-interview

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    NotMax says:

    @Quinerly

    I generally go with cocktail onions. Tough to find but if you ever do, try anchovy stuffed olives. Not at all fishy, not even a hint.

    Even tougher to find is my favorite martini garnish – teeny tiny pickled green tomatoes. Haven’t seen them for sale here since the fancy schmancy gourmet store shut down years ago (was also the only place locally which carried a favored brand of cigar for everyday smoking).

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    rikyrah says:

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    RespectMyGame
    💅🏽
    ‏ @battletested5

    Has anyone in the House or Senate called on Jim Jordan to resign behind sexual abuse allegations?
    10:14 AM – 6 Jul 2018

    https://twitter.com/battletested5/status/1015282919303237632

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    rikyrah says:

    The EVER LOVING PHUCK?!?!?

    Peter Alexander
    ‏Verified account @PeterAlexander

    JUST IN: Federal judge agrees to delay next meeting about extending deadline to reunite 101 children under the age of 5 until Monday because Trump administration lawyer has “dog sitting responsibilities” this weekend.
    @JuliaEAinsley
    1:55 PM – 6 Jul 2018

    https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1015338512042921985

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    lamh36 says:

    @thehill
    7m7 minutes ago
    More
    JUST IN: Manafort requests trial relocation over concerns the juror pool may have been biased by media coverage http://hill.cm/ym396rZ

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Quinerly: Mark Knopfler can do shit with a guitar I’ve never heard anyone else do.

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    rikyrah says:

    @lamh36:

    He is a phucking pedophile.

    WHAT SAY YOU, ZEGK?

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    NotMax says:

    @Ruckus

    Inadvertently left out “No hablamos Español.”

    :)

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    Gravenstone says:

    @rikyrah: Did he hug his chamber of silence? I’m sure he’ll miss it so.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @rikyrah: Do you mean JoPa Jordan?

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    lamh36 says:

    @MrDane1982
    1h1 hour ago
    More
    This mothafucker Jim Jordan is blaming Hillary Clinton for the “timing” of the bombshell that he witnessed and covered up sexual abuse makes. He’s no longer saying he never heard, tossed “Locker Room Talk” out there, now he’s blaming Hillary Clinton and Mueller. Resignation now!

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @NotMax: My favorite, for *very* dirty, very *wet* martinis? (sacrilege, I know!)

    Citrus-stuffed olives. Cursedly hard to find in my neck of the woods now, except for Amazon.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @Roger Moore: Hilary is not part of the discussion – she is not and never was a President of the U.S. as republicans posting on twitter love to forget.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @lamh36: Lemme guess, he’s asking for it to me be moved to … Russia?

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @lamh36: Excuse me, but WHAT THE EVERLOVIN’ PHUCK?? He’s blaming *Hillary Clinton*???

    Man, where is the Ethical Assassination Squad when you need them? Because the next asshole who tries to blame either Clinton for anything, ANYthing to do with their sins and wickednesses, ought to be garrotted in the street and his body hung for all to see, with a placard that says “The Clintons didn’t make me do it. IT WAS ALL ME.”

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    frosty says:

    @Quinerly:

    And then there’s the stuff I don’t remember

    I have a few of those. Found out a few months ago that I’d seen Black Sabbath, opening for Grand Funk Railroad. My ears rang for a day and a half … I thought it was just from Grand Funk’s guitar player.

    Wish I remembered half the concerts I’ve been to.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Miss Bianca: Ooh that sounds good. Never heard of a citrus stuffed olive, but what a concept.

    ETA: Woo hoo. Divina citrus stuffed olives, imported from Greece. Available in my zip code at Whole Foods. Allegedly.

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    rikyrah says:

    (((DeanObeidallah)))
    ‏Verified account @DeanObeidallah

    Well this was a first! I was just on @HLNTV with anchor @CarolHLN and the conservative on got so mad at me for saying there are people on right who want Christian sharia law That he WALKED OFF the interview on live tv. The truth is there are those who want Christian sharia!
    10:11 AM – 6 Jul 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    David Rothschild
    ‏Verified account @DavMicRot

    David Rothschild Retweeted Aaron Blake

    Key question for @SecAzar & @SecNielsen: what were you planning to do to the children ripped from their parents where you would not meticulously document (or destroy documentation) on who they came with? Obviously reunification was not a consideration, so what was?

    https://twitter.com/DavMicRot/status/1015273041927032834

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    NotMax says:

    @Elizabelle

    Not for martinis by any means, there are large green olives stuffed with white cheddar which are to die for. Have seen them from Mezzetta but there may be other brands.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @lamh36:
    Ah yes, the the magic incantation: “Hillary made me do it!”. Alternatively, “It’s all Hillary’s fault!”.

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    Haroldo says:

    @germy: Indeed. A lovely record. (An older cousin to Petra Haden / Frisell.)

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    rikyrah says:

    MAGA, BYTCHES

    U.S. Soybean Prices Crumble; US Farmers Suffer, Brazilian Farmers prosper
    July 6, 2018 at 12:17 pm EDT

    Soybean prices in the U.S. and Brazil, the nations that account for roughly 80 percent of global exports, have taken drastically different paths thanks to Donald Trump’s trade war, Bloomberg reports.

    In the U.S., average cash prices fell to about $7.79 a bushel this week, the lowest in almost a decade… Meanwhile in Brazil, exporters have been handed high times. Soybeans to be loaded in August at the nation’s Paranagua port fetched $2.21 a bushel more than Chicago futures as of Friday, the widest gap since data starts in 2014

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-05/u-s-soy-prices-are-crumbling-as-trade-war-sparks-brazil-rally?cmpid%253D=socialflow-twitter-markets

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    it’s not that Jim Jordan is a sex offender, it’s that he looked the other way to let a sex offender get away with it for years on end with possibly THOUSANDS of victims involved.

    It’s the shameful willingness to cover up and lie for sex offenders.

    It’s the shameful eagerness to maintain a status quo rather than stop a crime in progress.

    It’s the shameful obsession with gaining authority and power with NONE of the responsibility that goes with that authority.

    It’s not that Jordan should resign, it’s that Jordan should get dragged off in handcuffs for his acts of conspiracy against every victim in this story.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @NotMax: White cheddar olives. That needs finding, too.

    @rikyrah: Boggles the mind. And this would be mainly for rather young children, right? Because presumably older ones could come up with family names and hometowns/places of origin.

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    I dunno if it’s been reported here but the co-creator of Spider-Man Steve Ditko passed away.

    Granted, he succumbed to an obsessive need to write about Randian Objectivism since the early 1970s, but the impact of his artwork on the 1960s comic book industry can’t be understated: alongside Kirby’s groundbreaking work with Fantastic Four and Thor and other Marvel titles, Ditko’s work on Doctor Strange opened up once-static panel artwork to full page-spreads of mysticism, dimension, and awe.

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    MagdaInBlack says:

    @rikyrah:
    Well, that question pretty much turned my stomach.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @PaulWartenberg: Indeed, yes. RIP.

    Still love Spidey, after all these years…

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    rikyrah says:

    ABC News
    ‏Verified account @ABC

    PURE JOY: A woman and her dog are reunited at a fireworks celebration after the dog went missing for over two weeks, and their reactions are sure to put a smile on your face! https://abcn.ws/2zhiuqK

    https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1015325295405158400

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    rikyrah says:

    WHAT THE PHUCK IS THIS SHYT???

    that’s why the referendum needs to pass.
    the DNC should be going all out pushing for the referendum to pass.

    …………………………..

    State Clemency Official to Black Applicant: How Many Kids Do You Have? By How Many Different Mothers?
    July 7, 2018

    After serving time for a felony, Florida resident Erwin Jones, appeared in court before Gov. Rick Scott (R) and the cabinet, sitting as the Executive Clemency Board, seeking to get his civil rights back, so he could vote, sit on a jury or run for public office.

    However, Jones, a black man was subjected to racial discrimination as Florida’s Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis asked him a series of highly offensive questions, according to the Florida Phoenix.

    During the June 14 meeting, Patronis asked Jones how many children he had, and “how many different mothers to those children [there are]?”

    Patronis, a Republican also asked another man seeking clemency, William Reid Hicks, if he attended church or not.

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    Brachiator says:

    @PaulWartenberg:

    According to Ditko’s obituary, Jack Kirby was initially supposed to do the artwork for Spiderman, but Ditko’s Spidey was exactly right. So too his Doctor Strange. Loved his work, and didn’t know anything about his personal life or politics, or his admiration for Objectivism.

    RIP, Mr Ditko.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/steve-ditko-dead-spider-man-creator-was-90-1125489

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    OldDave says:

    @OldDave:

    What obscure Nesmith song? We’re big fans.

    Ah, nevermind. Only now noticed you had published a YouTube link.

    Getting old sucks. :-)

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    Jay says:

    @Elizabelle:

    As noted, many of the children are from Indiginous communities, who don’t speak Spanish, but instead, one of the many Maya or even lesser known Indigenous languages,

    So they might have the information, but cannot communicate it.

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    @rikyrah:

    One of the funny things trump never considered, or never let on about: by waging tariff wars, trump cuts off our own industries and markets, and allows the industries and markets of OTHER NATIONS like Brazil to fill the void. China and Europe can withstand our tariffs because they can just as easily get products and services from South America, Africa, and other parts of Asia.

    Wanna know a secret about the (first) Civil War? The Southern slaveowners – heavy into cotton as a single commodity – hoarded entire warehouses of cotton during the war in an attempt to force the cotton-needy nations of England and France to submit and recognize the Confederacy (or at least help with much-needed military supplies in trade). Thing was, since 1850 England realized the likelihood of civil war would threaten their supply so they began growing cotton in other parts of their Empire – Egypt for example – so that by 1860 they could live without Southern cotton. As a result, the Confederacy had little to trade with, and also hurt themselves domestically by using up most of their farmland for cotton growing instead of shifting needs to food crops to feed their own soldiers and homefront citizenry.

    trump is playing a similar, foolish game. he thinks that because the U.S. is the largest economic powerhouse on the planet with a diverse number of trade-able commodities, most other nations HAVE to deal with us – worse, deal with HIM – sooner or later. But most of the planet knows that all they have to do is outlast him… be it two years be it six (shudder). And if he tries to break THAT rule in the Constitution, they know this nation DOES fall apart and they can deal with the parts of the U.S. that remains sensible and trustworthy.

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    Brachiator says:

    @rikyrah:

    RE: U.S. Soybean Prices Crumble; US Farmers Suffer, Brazilian Farmers prosper

    If this is winning the trade war, I’d hate to see what a loss would look like.

    And yet the dopes who love Trump will love him even more despite the damage he will do to the economy.

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    rikyrah says:

    DA PHUQ?

    Walter Shaub
    ‏Verified account @waltshaub

    Walter Shaub Retweeted southpaw

    The administration stole these babies and children, then destroyed the records needed to return them. When they miss the deadline, the court should hold Secretaries Nielsen and Azar in contempt. Jail them until their agencies prove that every last child has been returned.

    southpaw
    ‏ @nycsouthpaw

    “Records linking children to their parents have disappeared, and in some cases have been destroyed, according to two officials of the Department of Homeland Security.” Destroyed.

    https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1015063067242008576

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    @PaulWartenberg: Tariffs are stupid, even if uber lefties like Sherrod Brown and BS of Vt are fans. This is Econ 101, not some fancy grad level stuff.

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    rikyrah says:

    THREAD

    Reveal
    ‏Verified account @reveal

    1/ NEW INVESTIGATION: Over the course of three weeks, a major U.S. defense contractor detained dozens of immigrant children inside a vacant Phoenix office building with no kitchen and only a few toilets.

    https://twitter.com/reveal/status/1015339835643478016

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    @rikyrah: This is worse than the stuff Mueller is uncovering. These are crimes against humanity.

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    Brachiator says:

    @PaulWartenberg:
    RE: One of the funny things trump never considered…

    Trump never considers anything. The odd thing is that even presumably rational members of the Republican leadership are backing a man they know is an ignoramous.

    ETA. My smartphone says it’s 112 degrees. Only feels like 200.

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    NotMax says:

    @Brachiator

    He’d been an ardent Randian since the 50s. Also somewhat of a recluse, shunning photos, interviews and personal appearances. Probably the most blatantly Randian comics character he created is Mr. A.

    Out of respect shall refrain from mentioning the one major thing I found a downside in his art.

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    Ruckus says:

    Boss and a lady that worked next door found a elderly pretty big black lab wandering the streets yesterday evening. They called animal control but ended up taking the dog to the Humane Society. He was a big boy and I’d say about 12 yrs old. He had probably arthritis or hip dysplasia, his back legs weren’t doing all that well. A friendly guy I think he may also have some vision issues, he responded to hand signs right in front of him but not at all off a little to either side. No collar or tags of any kind, of course we don’t know if he was chipped. He was well fed and comfortable with people, and with his hind quarters I doubt he’s lived on the street at all. I’m off work for 2 weeks but when I get back I’ll check with the boss and see if we can find out how it went at the Humane Society.

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    Aleta says:

    @germy: That’s amazing. I like Cab Driver. A lot.

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    debbie says:

    @PaulWartenberg:

    I’d bet Trump never expected the pushback he’s been getting from trading partners.

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    JAFD says:

    @HeleninEire: HURRAH MARY !!!

    And may you have many more miles in your journey !

    Now, Mr. Costello, he was around when I still followed popular music. Indeed, remember explaining the references in ‘Oliver’s Army’ to my friends when it came out (Love a history major – it will be a date to remember ;-) ) Hoping he gets better, keeps playing many years more.

    Anyway, am also a fan of big-band era jazz, when I send WBGO a contribution, ask them to play more of it… Had occasional ‘earworm’ from that era, didn’t know name of it, had composed my own ‘very silly’ lyrics.

    Couple of weeks, heard it on ‘BGO, think celebrating Nelson Eddy’s birthday. Checked it on wbgo.org, ’twas Tommy Dorsey playing ‘Opus One’. Looked up lyrics, found they were later addition by the Mills Brothers, even sillier than what I had come up with.

    Have great weekend, everyone. Hoping to get some interesting pictures.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Ruckus: Walter? Is that you?

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    Mike J says:

    I first saw Elvis at a 1,000 seater in Memphis, then a 3,000 seater a year or two later. Nick Lowe opening and then he and the Cowboy Outfit were Elvis’ backup band.

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    The Ancient Randonneur says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    It’s much worse than the worst reported stories. Much worse. Expect to see reporting over the next few weeks that will sicken. What is being done in our name is beyond shameful.

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    Quinerly says:

    @frosty: that’s a good one. 😈

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    Quinerly says:

    @Miss Bianca: oh, my! 💚

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    Quinerly says:

    @A Ghost To Most: 💜❤️💚♥️

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @rikyrah:

    They think they can avoid prosecution by destroying records. Hopefully they’re wrong.

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    Quinerly says:

    @NotMax: will you come to my next party? I actually hand stuff my own anchovy olives. Once in awhile, I can luck out and find those big, fat WHITE anchovies. 💚

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    @The Ancient Randonneur: This has been going on since April at least, although it made it into the national news just weeks ago.

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    Quinerly says:

    @OldDave: I left the thread to water my courtyard. Did you see the link to the song? My dad just loved that song when I was little. It brings back so many memories.

    Pretty sure thread be dead….

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    Ruckus says:

    @Miss Bianca:
    Not Walter. Bigger and not as much gray. Old guy has less gray/white than I do. If I had the room I’d keep on eye on taking him home. Alas, not going to happen.

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    stinger says:

    @HeleninEire: YAY MARY!

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    rikyrah says:

    @HeleninEire:
    Yeah Mary👏👏👏

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    debbie says:

    @HeleninEire:

    Yay for Mary! That is some achievement!

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    debbie says:

    @Elizabelle:

    He warned us this would happen. We must have taken him for granted. 😧

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    stinger says:

    @Quinerly: Peter Tork – that dimple!

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    J R in WV says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Sammy Davis Jr was one of the best, most professional, just plain able vocalists of his era. I’ve seen a video of him singing in the voice and style of Dean Martin, Mel Torme, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, and several other well known stars. If you closed your eyes, you would not know it wasn’t the other guy singing. Amazing performer we lost far too young.

    Fuck cancer, fuck tobacco !!!

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    NotMax says:

    @J R in WV

    Extremely adept impressionist.

    His very first appearance on television was as a young child, tap dancing on The Toast of the Town (Ed Sullivan’s precursor to the eponymous show). Video went out during his time on stage, so America mostly heard but did not see him perform.

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    Mike J says:

    @frosty:

    Found out a few months ago that I’d seen Black Sabbath, opening for Grand Funk Railroad.

    I saw Black Oak Arkansas open for James Brown.

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    J R in WV says:

    @rikyrah:

    Ugh… won’t try to watch it, That stuff makes me sick, these people suddenly feeling free to let their ugliest internal horror loose in front of everyone. The only good thing is that the next thing that happens to them is getting fired, kicked off their little power trip committees.

    Quite a surprise to real racists to learn that most people around them actually despise their racist hate when it bubbles up. The guy who called the cops on a black woman resident in his apartment complex for being in “his” pool has been fired and thrown off the homeowners pool committee.

    I imagine and hope this woman will also be fired for outrageous biased behavior. “Because I wanted them to go away!” WTF?!!!

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Hot take: Elvis (Costello) is racist straight up and plain; I don’t forgive the ugly shit he said about Ray Charles.

    @hervevillechaizelounge: He gets a pass. He’s a white people “cultural institution”, like Louis CK (whoops) or Eric Clapton, who has always liked a good dose of fascism along with the blues tunes he watered down and made safe for white folks.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Miss Bianca: I love it when you get angry.

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    J R in WV says:

    @rikyrah:

    “Conversations in a locker room” are different from reported allegations of abuse, Rep. Jim Jordan tells @BretBaier in interview about Ohio State accusations…

    Wait, you can’t report something to a COACH in the locker room? What, do you have to make an appointment to see him in church?!?

    Jordan is losing his cool, totally, and I would hope that he’s going to be in big trouble for failure to protect these guys, and failure to report, which for a mandatory reporter is a big deal now, not sure if it was then. The R’s seem to have such a lot of perverts elected to high office these days. Wonder if it was always the case?

    His statements seem tailor made for commercials to run endlessly for the next months.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @rikyrah:

    Peter Alexander
    ‏Verified account @PeterAlexander

    JUST IN: Federal judge agrees to delay next meeting about extending deadline to reunite 101 children under the age of 5 until Monday because Trump administration lawyer has “dog sitting responsibilities” this weekend.
    @JuliaEAinsley
    1:55 PM – 6 Jul 2018

    No way this is the whole story. Judge is a RWNJ? Judge is being pressured? Something’s going on.

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    J R in WV says:

    In my book the Secretary of Homeland Security should be jailed until every child is reunited with every parent/aunt/uncle. This whole thing is already despicable child abuse with what we’ve seen and know for a fact.

    And as Ancient R. said, it is going to get much worse before it starts getting better. Kids stored away in an abandoned office building? Exactly how much tracking is being done? None.

    The government is talking about preventing human trafficking while setting up a perfect storm of children kidnapped and ripe for abuse by anyone, and unable to tell authorities who might do something about it because they speak a language no one at Health Nor at Homeland Security can speak. That’s great Homeland Security for ya!!!

    Vile despicable people willing to torture children to make legal amnesty seekers think differently about America. Make America so hateful no one wants to flee here? Great plan suckers!

    How are we supposed to be able to sleep with this going on in our nation? To… I gotta stop and listen to some old music and chill.

    G’night all…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @The Moar You Know:

    So you didn’t bother to watch the Questlove video?

    Hint: there’s a reason people keep talking about a single incident that happened 30+ years ago, which ain’t the case with Clapton, who is a multiple offender.

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    NotMax says:

    @J R in WV

    And of course after using DNA to match up families, the government will promptly delete the DNA database and not retain it as a permanent law enforcement record.

    In a pig’s eye.

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    NotMax says:

    @NotMax

    Amended.

    retain and disseminate it as a law enforcement record

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    sukabi says:

    @Gravenstone: with Polaroids…you know one or more of the pervs was a “documentarian”…

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