Breaking News (Woop Woop)

Some breaking news on the immigration front:

The Post:

Trump administration will stop prosecuting migrant parents who cross the border illegally with children, official says

The dramatic about-face comes just one day after President Trump signed an executive order ending his administration’s widely denounced practice of separating families apprehended at the Mexico border.

Trump’s order said the government would maintain a “zero tolerance” policy toward those who break the law, but a senior U.S. official, when asked to explain how the federal government would change enforcement practices, told The Washington Post that Border Patrol agents have been instructed to stop sending parents with children to federal courthouses for prosecution.

“We’re suspending prosecutions of adults who are members of family units until ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) can accelerate resource capability to allow us to maintain custody,” the official said.

Sounds like they got out over their skis and simply don’t have the capacity to intern entire families yet, so they’ll go back to the Obama-era status quo until they do. Imagine the headlines at Fox News, WSJ, etc., if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton had suffered an embarrassing reversal on a signature policy, crapped out a face-saving EO to fix it, then had to scrap that 12 hours later, even temporarily. The mind reels.

Also, the Third Lady is making a “surprise visit” to one of her odious husband’s shameful stolen child incarceration centers to see “what’s real,” according to CNN:

McAllen, Texas (CNN)First lady Melania Trump touched down in McAllen, Texas, Thursday making a publicly unannounced and hastily planned trip to get a first-hand look at the crisis affecting immigrant families at the US border.

In doing so, she becomes the first Trump family member to personally witness the situation that has captured the country’s attention over the past several weeks.

“She wants to see what’s real,” said the first lady’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham told CNN during a 10-minute press briefing en route to Texas. “She wanted to see as close to what she had been seeing on TV. She wants to see a realistic view of what’s happening.”

The article implies this was the Third Lady’s proactive decision rather than something orchestrated by Trump’s White House minions:

Acting or commenting from the sidelines apparently was not enough for Trump, who fewer 48 hours ago informed her staff — and her husband, the President of the United States — that she had decided she needed to see for herself the family intake and unaccompanied children facilities.

Yeah, right. I suppose she could surprise us, but this is the woman who backed up her pig-husband’s racist birther lies, attacked fellow immigrants for behavior she herself engaged in and excused Trump’s many sexual assaults by calling his accusers liars, so my expectations are subterranean.

Looks like the GOP immigration bills – both shitty and even shittier – are going down. No surprise there.

And finally, The New York Post reports that evil Trump aide Stephen Miller was heckled in a DC-area Mexican restaurant a few days ago – before DHS ghoul Nielsen suffered a similar fate:

White House adviser Stephen Miller was accosted at a Mexican restaurant by a patron calling him a “fascist” — two nights before Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was hounded out of another south-of-the-border eatery, sources told The Post…

“Hey look guys, whoever thought we’d be in a restaurant with a real-life fascist begging [for] money for new cages?” another customer at the Mezcal joint snarled at Miller, according to a source who saw the encounter.

Miller didn’t respond and scurried away, the witness said.

“Scurried away” — that’s perfect. It’s small potatoes in the scheme of things, but I relish seeing any evidence that these bastards are paying for their atrocious behavior. Power centers being what they are, social costs are likely all we’ll ever extract from the Trumps and their evil cabal, so I want those costs to be maximized, including, at the very least, a life of ordering take-out food under fake names.

Open thread.

239 replies
  1. 1
    LAO says:

    No one knows what’s going on. It’s a goat rodeo. https://t.co/AmHs39n0OA— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 21, 2018

  2. 2
    NCSteve says:

    I’m sure Camp Director Potemkin will ensure Czarina Melania gets a clear and accurate understanding of conditions there.

  3. 3
    westyny says:

    Trump on TV right now lying at machine gun rate and attacking Democrats. Has there ever been as divisive a President? I mean since Obama? /s

  4. 4
    Kelly says:

    @NCSteve: perfectly in the center of the bullseye.

  5. 5
    D58826 says:

    Der Fuhrer just ripped Mexico over NAFTA and the immigrants but wants them to solve the problem. At least he didn’t demand they pay for the wall

  6. 6
    PPCLI says:

    Reposting from the previous now moribund thread:
    It isn’t a coincidence that two high Trumpist officials were dining in Mexican restaurants in the last few days. The Trumpists love nothing more than to change the subject by claiming that they are so oppressed by evil liberals. I’m sure they were hoping against hope that someone would threaten physical violence, so that Fox could howl about it 24/7 for the next week.

  7. 7
    rikyrah says:

    Is this real or a lie?

    I’ll wait and read trustworthy folks to tell me the truth about what’s really going on.

  8. 8
    PPCLI says:

    Trump needs a new version of Truman’s sign for his desk: “The Buck Stops Anywhere But Here”.

  9. 9
    Chris says:

    @LAO:

    This. Let’s wait a few weeks and see how many other announcements like this he makes.

  10. 10
    jonas says:

    Re: Melania’s visit to the border: 1. of course they’re only going to let her see some nice, spruced-up section of a facility with just a couple of kids who look like they’re having a great ol’ time, and have probably been viciously threatened to behave or else they go in the hole again. 2. their accommodations are beside the point. They could be put up at the Ritz and still suffer from permanent trauma from having been taken from their parents and never told when or if they would see their mommy or daddy again, or what’s happened to mommy or daddy.

    This was nothing more than an attempt to use the psychological torture of children as negotiating leverage to scrap immigration and asylum laws and fund the stupid wall boondoggle.

  11. 11
    LAO says:

    I’ve had about enough of this shitheel:

    WOW — Trump accuses Dems of creating "massive child smuggling industry""People are suffering because of the Democrats. They created & they have let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. The human traffickers are making a fortune. It's a disgrace." pic.twitter.com/P3YMRsXm2G— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 21, 2018

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    TenguPhule says:

    a senior U.S. official, when asked to explain how the federal government would change enforcement practices, told The Washington Post that Border Patrol agents have been instructed to stop sending parents with children to federal courthouses for prosecution.

    Sorry, this sounds like they intend on sending them to the gas chambers instead.

  13. 13
    Wag says:

    @PPCLI:
    What I wanna know is how were Miller and Nielsen’s taco bowls before their dinners were so “rudely” (read rightly) interrupted?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @LAO:

    Trump accuses Dems of creating “massive child smuggling industry”

    Projection all the way.

    Now we know what happened to the girls and toddlers.

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    PPCLI says:

    “She wants to see what’s real,” said the first lady’s spokeswoman Stephanie Grisham told CNN during a 10-minute press briefing en route to Texas. “She wanted to see as close to what she had been seeing on TV. She wants to see a realistic view of what’s happening.”

    No need to make the trip, Melania. Just ask your husband or Sessions or Miller. It is unspeakably awful there, and it is that way because it was intended to be.True, it is worse even than planned, because this administration always adds its signature mind-numbing incompetence and corruption to its evil cruelty. But the Trump Tent Hotels are the way they are by design. So just ask the designers. They are proud of their work, and will be happy to share the details with you.

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    JPL says:

    Who knew that building concentration camps took so long? They don’t have anywhere to move the united families.

    Trump’s proposing merging Dept of Education and Labor Dept.

    good times

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @LAO: That language plays directly into the Qanon nonsense. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, count your many blessings — name them one by one. Sounds like he’s desperate to me, which is to be expected when a malignant narcissist suffers a public humiliation.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @rikyrah:

    Is this real or a lie?

    i don’t think it means what Betty seems to think it means. That’s not how these assholes do things.

    There’s always a “something worse” attached. Always.

    Worst possible interpretation: They’re gonna accelerate the process of getting rid of those locked up. By any means necessary.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Will believe it when we see it. Both are unlikely.

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    Olivia says:

    @LAO: When he makes accusations, especially horrific ones, it is nothing but projection.

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    JPL says:

    @PPCLI: Initially I thought it was sweet, but then they delivered a propaganda speech extolling their virtues.

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    D58826 says:

    According to Der Fuhrer it’s all the fault of the democrats. So Hillary is now driving one of the buses bring the refugees from Honduras?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Somebody better do a welfare check on Stephen Miller. Also, if I was a woman advertising escort services on Craigslist or other sites in the DC area, I’d go on hiatus as he’s likely going to need to go full Buffalo Bill for a few days…

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    TenguPhule says:

    @PPCLI:

    No need to make the trip, Melania. Just ask your husband or Sessions or Miller.

    She doesn’t care. This is a photo op/alibi for her future war crime tribunal defense.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @rikyrah: Chris Hayes, who is at the border, says adults with kids weren’t being sent for prosecution. Sounds like a logistics thing.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: As I predicted two days ago.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Also, if I was a woman advertising escort services on Craigslist or other sites in the DC area

    Those online sites were banned back in March by Congress and are no longer available.

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    PPCLI says:

    @Wag: What’s the Spanish word for “sputnum”?

    Though it wouldn’t surprise me at all if both Nielsen and Miller already had reservations for a different restaurant lined up in advance for when they up and left the Mexican place as planned. Even they aren’t foolish enough to swallow any of the food they would be served.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: Here you go:

    Gonna be just like yesterday where first they said they were reunifying the kids already in detention and then said they weren’t. They used grandfathered into the policy change for both the will and won’t answer. Methinks someone at HHS needs a test of spoken English.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    As I predicted two days ago.

    Predicting that nobody could predict what’s going on isn’t exactly the Oracle of Delphi these days.

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    Kay says:

    @PPCLI:

    It’s just silly. She must know better. Yes, Melania, the pre-planned arrival of the First Lady is a surprise drop in visit.

    What’s “real”. Guffaw. News reports are fake but her publicity stunt is “real”. I am so, so sick of these people lying. They are incapable of an honest statement or straightforward action. It just isn’t in them.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Methinks someone at HHS needs a test of spoken English.

    Why do you hate test administrators?

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    Ruckus says:

    Not only should they only be able to order takeout, they should have to pay cash only for everything. McDs, utility bills, housing, everything. They should have to prove every single time, up front, that they have the money. Including drumpf.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @westyny: I understand that Millard Fillmore made his cabinet secretaries line up as shirts and skins at cabinet meetings…//

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    TenguPhule says:

    @JPL:

    Trump’s proposing merging Dept of Education and Labor Dept.

    I believe Notmax came up with “Department of Child Labor” as the result.

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    ruemara says:

    @PPCLI: I don’t care. Fuck them. That propaganda will only work for their base & fools, who are nearly the same group & already believe bullshit.

    Re: The First Cardboard Cutout. Fuck her, too. Bitch can go home & run around in American flag thongs in Louboutins. That’s all she was ever qualified to do, besides be the handler for Putin’s Little Asset.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @PPCLI: Or they just like guacamole.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @JPL:

    Who knew that building concentration camps took so long?

    They’re spending extra time on the showers.

    /And FSM I hope this remains a bad joke.

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    trollhattan says:

    @PPCLI:
    I see a couple ways this could go–they can show her a real holding place where she will make some concern pouts for the cameras and then rename it “Camp Be Best” or they take her to a McAllen WalMart and claim “See, pretty nice, right? And just look at those bargains! Do you see the Ivanka clothing racks over there?”

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    lollipopguild says:

    @westyny: President Hilary Clinton has proven that she can be very divisive.

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    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks!

    @Betty Cracker: This Qanon nonsense is crazy — and dangerous.

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    rikyrah says:

    Also, the Third Lady is making a “surprise visit” to one of her odious husband’s shameful stolen child incarceration centers to see “what’s real,” according to CNN:

    Phuck.outta.here.
    Don’t nobody believe her.

    Until the journalists, Senators and Congressmen get into talk to the kids…

    Nothing,but nonsense.

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    TenguPhule says:

    U.S. close to releasing Mideast peace proposal that Palestinian leadership may immediately reject

    Via Wapo. Jared has been busy.

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    JPL says:

    @TenguPhule: Appropriate, since Trump is already following Kim Jung-un’s lead.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    There’s something else at work here. I posted this yesterday:

    Anyone who works in government is going to be extremely pessimistic about this. This shit is seriously hard to do right, and even with years of planning is almost certainly going to be off a bit.

    I work with a generally well documented population. One that typically has a good identity trail. Understand that ‘identity’ is a much more ephemeral thing than people realize. Virtually every form of identity is merely a proxy for some prior form of identity. At the end of the day, your identity is almost entirely dependent on a single form filled out in the hospital where you were born, from which every other form of identity is derived. We might validate that somewhat via DNA tests against other people and their identity chain, but that’s it. And even in a setting where have great documentation and are dealing with a population of 10s of thousands of people, you have mix-ups of people with identical names, ambiguity in a person’s status, and the like. 3 times per year we take a definitive snapshot of the population and the first pass is about 99.9% correct, and the last 0.1% takes days and hundreds of man-hours to correct. And that’s in a system where employees are personally motivated to get this right, the population being counted is personally motivated to get this right, and everyone speaks the same language and is old and capable enough to speak on their own behalf. And what happens if our census misses somebody? Well, there’s a temporary financial inconvenience until the person points it out and we fix it. Nobody dies. Nobody vanishes down a human trafficking hole. Nobody has long term psychological problems.

    With 100% certainty, at least one child has already died as a result of DHSs inability to properly account for everyone. They’ll blame language, lack of identity documentation, and so on. But this is a situation where all of the incentives are aligned against success. You have employees that are highly motivated to cover up any problem. You have people being counted that cannot speak for themselves, and are in many cases motivated to not cooperate. Refugees are an administrative worst case scenario because by definition of the population, every thing that usually works in favor of success is lacking. And in this case, if you had an employee population that was highly motivated to get this right, you might stand a fighting chance, but nobody signs up to work as a border patrol officer with this goal in mind. The job is about keeping people out, not taking care of those that are in. Toss on top the politicization and inevitable ass-covering when this thing goes tits-up and I’m predicting at least hundreds of children will simply vanish, and more than that will never be reunited with parents because the government fucked up so badly and is unwilling to release a child to their rightful parents because some form doesn’t line up with some other form.

    From the viewpoint of a high-level administrator, you never, ever, ever agree to do a system like this because the likelihood of failure is so high, and the consequence of that failure is of such magnitude, that you just never go near it. From an administrative standpoint, by keeping children and parents together, you solve so much of the accounting problem because child and parent are mutually and actively invested in ensuring the accounting is right. If your worry is human trafficking, that too will be revealed in that interaction provided you keep them together. Hell, you can do a cheap and easy DNA test to help verify that the adult’s story checks out. Once you separate, there’s no fucking way you can tell who was and was not trafficked, and because of that, if trafficking is your real concern, there’s no way you can ever reunite the child with the parent, because any mechanism that you might have had to ensure that relationship is valid was lost in the separation process.

    If someone had come to me with this idea, with me being responsible for implementation, I would advise them to toss out any pretext that there would be a reunification process, and make clear from the outset that this is an orphanage project where reunification is a desirable exception rather than a realistic expectation and construct around that and see if the concept and motivation to pursue it still holds. If nobody did that then they are utterly incompetent and should be fired and go to jail. If they did that, and the policy was pursued anyway, than everyone in the chain should be fired and go to jail.

    A lot of these kids will never be reunited with their parents. I would be willing to bet that at least a few are either dead or missing with effectively no way to identify them. Some of the abuses elsewhere in the system are probably being documented now internally. My guess is that reality has started to work up the chain and they’re dealing with at least some level of administrative pushback from professional staff that don’t want to face criminal charges. Note that they aren’t ending the practice, just that they’re going to pause things while they find bigger prisons.

    The other possibility is that the pushback is jeopardizing other efforts that they care more about. Microsoft is starting the feel the heat for having ICE contracts, with employees furious. The airlines are ending their work with ICE. At some point less controversial federal programs are going to be affected, and the folks in charge of those efforts are going to be livid that ICE is fucking things up for everyone.

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    Kay says:

    I know most of you disagree with me, but I want you to consider the vulnerability of assholism :)

    They are afraid that people will see they are mean-spirited assholes. That’s important to them- that their base not perceive them as nasty. There’s some evidence for this, too, as far as Democrats. In Virginia and Alabama Democrats basically ran on “we are not vicious, petty assholes”. The PETTY part seems key to me- SMALL. It makes them SMALLER. Easier to beat :)

    Trump and his supporters don’t want to be small. They want to be big. Expansive. But they’re really ungenerous and mean-spirited and resentful so it doesn’t come natural. They gravitate to the small, crabbed, petty, ungenerous, stingy. That’s the vulnerability.

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    PPCLI says:

    @TenguPhule:
    @Adam L Silverman:

    I conjecture that part of what is going on is the administration’s normal strategy of having 10 different officials say 10 different things, so that everyone will hear what they want and ignore the rest. But I wonder if this isn’t a legal dodge as well. “Not persecuting” doesn’t mean “not detaining indefinitely”. Maybe the Flores rules only apply to people who are being charged, and to they are going to keep them detained in some kind of procedural limbo where no-one is sure exactly who has jurisdiction or what rules apply or what the status is. So nobody knows what court to sue in, nobody knows that agency to talk to, etc. (Usual disclaimer applies: IANAL.)

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    hitchhiker says:

    Matt Yglesias over at Vox had it right this morning. This is an actual, real-world, complex problem. Those migrants from thug-ridden Central America are not faking and not trying to get something for nothing; they’re afraid for their lives and their kids’ lives, or they wouldn’t haul themselves all the damn way through Mexico on the slim chance of being taken in here in the USA.

    Just b/c Trump bleats at high volume about his latest me-strong-man fantasy does not change the fact that they’re real, desperate human beings. The play about family separation was always to somehow out-thug the drug lords and gangsters …. really?

    He just has no idea what to do, and neither do his fans in the congress. No amount of posturing is going to persuade a Salvadoran parent that the guy threatening their children with actual murder isn’t real.

    It’s like everything else that I keep asking myself about this insane year — at some point don’t people see that there are no new coal jobs, that there is no plan to address the opioid crisis, that their insurance policies are worthless, that their tax cuts barely exist, that their president is a fool?

    Don’t they? At some point?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @rikyrah: Probably a bit of both. They are completely overwhelmed. They have no funding to do any of what they’ve been ordered to do with the policy change. There has been no new and/or supplemental appropriation to cover any costs related to the zero tolerance policy. So they have no funding to do anything but what they were doing before it was put in place. My guess is that CBP, ICE, and HHS’s ORR have already burned through their budgets for the year. They don’t have the personnel to cover down. And they can’t give more work to their existing indefinitefinite deliveryuration/indefinitefinite quantity (IDIQ) omnibus contractors because they don’t have the money to pay the new contracting fees. So something has to give.

    My guess is this will be walked back, just as yesterday’s announcement that they were going to reunite the children that had already been separated was walked by, within a couple of hours or so because the President hasn’t actually rescinded his instructions to the Attorney General and Sessions hasn’t rescinded his policy memo that implemented the change to zero tolerance.

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    D58826 says:

    @westyny: After listening to Der Fuhrer I think it’s time to put the English language on the endangered species list.

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    @PPCLI:

    It isn’t a coincidence that two high Trumpist officials were dining in Mexican restaurants in the last few days.

    Given the popularity of Mexican food and the utter and well demonstrated cluelessness of Trump’s administration officials as to how the public sees them, I think ‘coincidence’ is very likely.

    @TenguPhule:

    that Palestinian leadership may immediately reject

    So, a meaningless piece of paper. THAT’S expert diplomacy!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @PPCLI:

    So nobody knows what court to sue in, nobody knows that agency to talk to, etc. (Usual disclaimer applies: IANAL.)

    Don’t worry, none of the assholes administering Trump’s orders are either.

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    NotMax says:

    Hypothetically, could the owners of the Mexican restaurants claim “sincere religious convictions” and refuse service to either or both Secretary of Child Trafficking Nielsen or Stabsscharführer Miller?

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Forgive me, but I don’t understand the Buffalo Bill reference?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: He was completely off the chain and unhinged. Total stream of consciousness. And he just blew up whatever it is that Ryan was hoping to push through the House and try to jam the Senate on in regards to immigration today.

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    @Kay: I don’t. They do want to be loved and are upset when you call them on their BS. They are angels in their own mind.

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    Mark says:

    I find your writing style very much to my liking Betty.

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    Peale says:

    @LAO: I was kind of joking on a thread from LGM that we need to bring back dueling. I was kind of joking. But now, I’m not so certain. Perez is probably a better shot than Donald, so just let’s have him meet at dawn one day. Then bring over Rush and Alex Jones and Susan Sarandan.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Kay:
    Racists squeal “no fair!” whenever they’re called racist, but that doesn’t change their behavior. Not sure this is any different, to be honest.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    I would be willing to bet that at least a few are either dead or missing with effectively no way to identify them. Some of the abuses elsewhere in the system are probably being documented now internally. My guess is that reality has started to work up the chain and they’re dealing with at least some level of administrative pushback from professional staff that don’t want to face criminal charges. Note that they aren’t ending the practice, just that they’re going to pause things while they find bigger prisons.

    Sadly, I think you’re being too optimistic.

    I think the numbers are going to worse then any of us could possibly have believed. And I am damn sure what little records they have were ordered destroyed. These assholes have learned the golden rule of the American justice system. Don’t keep a paper trail of your crimes.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Both those bills were pretty horrible. So no loss. Plus Ryan has egg on his face for the nth time. He can cry me river. He deserves humiliation and worse.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:
    Read The Silence Of The Lambs, or watch the movie.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:

    Forgive me, but I don’t understand the Buffalo Bill reference?

    Silence of the Lambs.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: We’ll explain this to you further when you’re older…//

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    trollhattan says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Reap the whirlwind jerks, you built this. Perhaps the sole thing Trump is really, really good at is whirling.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Hey Miller! Come to Denver; I’ll give you a ride into the mountains. Out, not so much.

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    PPCLI says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: I believe it’s a reference to the creepy character “Buffalo Bill” in The Silence of the Lambs, combined with the widespread observation that Miller radiates a similar unsettling serial killer vibe.

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    Kay says:

    I want us to consider the downside of being assholes. Because we’re sort of buying their worldview if we equate “mean spirited and vindictive” with “strong”. We don’t believe that, right?

    They can’t help themselves, either. They spent months planning to rename government agencies and include the word “welfare”. This meanness is CENTRAL to Trumpism. It’s who they are. It can be used against them.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    There has been no new and/or supplemental appropriation to cover any costs related to the zero tolerance policy.

    Selling the girls into sexual slavery and toddlers into trafficking would help them self-fund this.

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    westyny says:

    @trollhattan: So much whirling . . .

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    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, that made me truly laugh out loud. Live by the moron, die by the moron.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: Appreciate the congrats…

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @ruemara: “Putin’s Little Asset” — tee-hee!

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    NotMax says:

    DHS now stands for Department of Human Suffering.

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    @TenguPhule:
    I am usually one of the more optimistic people here. In this case, I agree with you. At the very least, we are going to find out that almost no records were kept, and a serious percentage of these children cannot be reunited with their families because no one knows who their families are. That’s why they’re not being returned already. And I suspect many deaths among the youngest, and stories of abuse of every group.

    I hope I am wrong. We’ll find out.

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    MJS says:

    @NotMax: I would much prefer they inform the cooks exactly who the meal is being prepared for.

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    Peale says:

    @Adam L Silverman: This just seems like a replay of 2014 – when Hannity or whomever started bleating on about the poor treatment of the unaccompanied kids (oh the tears!) to make Obama look bad, but then the right organized protests whenever they tried to move the kids to better conditions and refused to budget any more money for better facilities. (I think that is the reason why the kids are moved at night, btw. Back in 2014, you couldn’t move them in the day because the right would protest that they weren’t being treated more harshly). They aren’t going to pay 1 cent more to resolve this problem they created, even though they are in charge this time, because doing so would be admitting that these aren’t animals who need humane treatment.

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    Mark says:

    I wonder who is going to have to take the fall for this mess? We know the Buffoon is looking for a scapegoat. Sessions? Nielsen?

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    sukabi says:

    It could be that DoD decided to NOT assign JAG lawyers as prosecutors like was reported late last night... Someone pointed out on Twitter that that would violate posse comitatus

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    LAO says:

    @NotMax: OMG — I’m stealing that, just so you know.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @hitchhiker:

    at some point don’t people see that there are no new coal jobs, that there is no plan to address the opioid crisis, that their insurance policies are worthless, that their tax cuts barely exist, that their president is a fool?

    Sadly no. They will always believe that so much horseshit means there’s a pony at the end of it somewhere.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @PPCLI: She ain’t going to Tornillo, she’s going to the closed Walmart which looks like a clean environment and probably has AC, She should go to Tornillo, but I’m sure she will not. The kids will be, as someone earlier said, too scared to complain to her or cry, and these are boys 10-17, not toddlers or the missing girls or babies crying for their parents with no one to comfort them.

    #WhereAreTheGirls

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    Kay says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    You saw that thing on Twitter where the writer wondered if Ivanka though she could “power thru” and remain a high faluitn member of society? Yes! Yes she does believe that! It’s vitally important to her. They believe they are great, huge, with big ideas. But this shit is just petty and mean-spirited. They’re reduced to hammering people for the equivalent of a traffic ticket.

    Reduced. Made smaller. That’s what they can’t bear but it is actually what they are.

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    Yarrow says:

    @LAO: Projection, projection, projection. When the Trump Models trafficking story breaks it’s going to get really crazy.

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    efgoldman says:

    @LAO:

    I’ve had about enough of this shitheel:

    Since it’s always projection with these assholes….

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    joel hanes says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    A lot of these kids will never be reunited with their parents.

    That was one of the desired outcomes of the Sessions/Trump policies.

    Trump and Miller and Sessions see deliberate, permanent destruction of families as just retribution for these brown people having dared to want to come to America, and as a measure that will be popular with their xenophobic base.

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    jonas says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    At some point less controversial federal programs are going to be affected, and the folks in charge of those efforts are going to be livid that ICE is fucking things up for everyone.

    Step 1 would probably get rid of that wannabe fat-headed Heydrich running ICE.

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    LAO says:

    @sukabi: Six months ago I handled a ridiculous misdemeanor assault case in federal court up near West Point. The alleged assault took place in a VA hospital and the matter was prosecuted by a JAG officer acting as a “Special AUSA.” It was the first time I had ever encountered that but I was informed it’s typical in areas with large Military bases. I don’t think this is/was as extraordinary as the people have made it out to be.

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    @TenguPhule:

    Selling the girls into sexual slavery and toddlers into trafficking

    I doubt there will be a lot of this, at least. A few fringe cases may come up, strictly on the scale of an individual or squad doing the business. There just isn’t the organization for it large scale.

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    efgoldman says:

    @JPL:

    Trump’s proposing merging Dept of Education and Labor Dept.

    Which can only be done by congress.
    New tagline: “Make it so only works in Star Trek”

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    TenguPhule says:

    The financial services sector is heralding Trump’s announcement last week that he would nominate Kathy Kraninger to head up the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The Community Financial Services Association of America, the Credit Union National Association, the American Bankers Association, the Mortgage Bankers Association, among others, almost immediately stepped forward to issue support. “A steady hand,” proclaimed Richard Hunt, president of the Consumer Bankers Association, the retail banking industry’s lobbying shop.

    There’s just one problem: A steady hand is the last thing we should now want at the CFPB, which has gone from consumer watchdog under the Obama administration to financial industry lapdog under Trump. The nomination of Kraninger, who has almost no experience in financial regulation, is another sign of the rot that has taken hold of the CFPB since Trump installed White House budget head Mick Mulvaney as the bureau’s temporary chief. And it signals that this rot will certainly continue to fester and increase.

    Via Wapo.

    CFPB has been raped and left to die in the sewer.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    There just isn’t the organization for it large scale.

    I think the reason we’ll find out about it is precisely because they didn’t organize it well.

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    Brachiator says:

    A senior house leadership aide sends this note after trump’s loco presser just now.

    “Fuck him. He couldnt fucking shut his fucking mouth for 8 fucking hours. Fuck.”

    This is Trump. And he feels more emboldened. He has thrown off the restraint of advisers who tried to get him to tone it down, to be more deliberative.

    And again, he gains strength from the adulation of his base. And he doesn’t try to placate them. He is giving them what they want. And they are behind him 100 percent. From the Guardian.

    Some attendees, like Mary Reuter of Sauk Centre, Minnesota, said it was all fake news. Reuter – who was disappointed that she shared a last name with a wire service that she described as “very liberal” but was proud of coming from the home town of Sinclair Lewis – said only Fox News “got it right”. Reuter said only 10% of the children separated from their parents “are really families” and she felt it was acceptable to separate them in that case. “If you are a US citizen, you break the law, you go to jail. You don’t get to be with your kids.”

    Trump is resentful and cruel and encourages this in his supporters.

    It is like Serbian and Croatian extremist leaders fanning old hatreds.

    Trump will continue to do this until he is voted out of office. The Republican Congress continue to back Trump and must be voted out as well.

    ETA. I give Melania some small credit. Trump doesn’t care about photo ops. He cares about loyalty. Anyone who defies him in any way is suspect. How many Republicans have stepped up to show any independence?

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    NotMax says:

    @Frankensteinbeck

    There just isn’t the organization for it large scale.

    Also too, these are the folks who couldn’t figure out how to operate a light switch.

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    Spanky says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I just busted out laughing at my desk. That was, shall we say, an over-the-top exercise in exasperation.

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    PPCLI says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Fair enough. I can get blinded by how dishonest and whiny these goniffs are so that I forget they are also clueless bunglers.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @TenguPhule: No, I expect that as well. Mostly I only reference a few because I’m expecting the administrative incompetence to be so high that they would only have a few documented. So far their answer to ‘where are the kids’ is generally ‘oh, they’re fine, don’t worry about it’ which means they have no fucking idea if they’re okay or not.

    At another hearing before a different judge, as one of my colleagues asked the agent on the stand about the whereabouts of my client’s child, the prosecutor objected to the relevance of the questions. The judge turned on the prosecutor, demanding to know why this wasn’t relevant. At one point, he slammed his hand on the desk, sending a pen flying. This type of emotional display is unheard of in federal court. I can’t understand this, the judge said. If someone at the jail takes your wallet, they give you a receipt. They take your kids, and you get nothing? Not even a slip of paper?

    A cell phone has circuitry that gives it a unique ID that is being broadcast pretty much the entire time the phone is powered. You can track any arbitrary cell phone around the world without much difficulty – after all, that’s how when someone dials your number, it knows how to get routed to the tower you are closest to. This is done with extraordinary reliability and efficiency. People aren’t like that. If you pick up a naked 1 year old, the ONLY way to figure out the identity of this person is to hope to hell someone comes looking for them and then run a DNA test. That’s it. If that connection never gets made because you airdropped the adult in Guatemala and they don’t know which of the 300 million Americans is in charge of that child and empowered to run that DNA test, then the child is forever unidentifiable. The paper trail that accompanies that child must be flawless, and given that none of the people demanding this system are even willing to recognize that child as having as much worth as a cell phone, that simply isn’t going to happen.

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    Turner Hedenkoff says:

    People should let Nielsen and Miller enjoy their chimichangas in peace. I’m sure the kitchen staff worked hard on them. #that’snotmole

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    Spanky says:

    @Peale: Dueling? Challenge them to a game of Russian (heh!) Roulette.

    With a Glock 9.

    They go first.

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    PJ says:

    @Kay: I think you’re right, but I wonder to what extent. All of these characteristics were on display in 2016, and he still got almost half of the popular vote. I’d guess at least 30% of the population support Trump precisely because he is selfish, mean, vindictive, short-sighted, petty, cruel, and completely lacking in empathy. Some portion of the other 20% of voters don’t care about any of those characteristics as long as they think a tax cut is going to put them ahead, or as long as they think Trump is going to save the defenseless fetuses.

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    ruemara says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yet, that person will vote for whatever and preserve this fucking dangerous traitor’s seat in the WH in exchange for an insane, dominionist, neonazi agenda. Fuck him/her with a rusty chainsaw.

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    Arclite says:

    Good to know that Melania has a heart, as little influence as she has.

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    Leto says:

    @sukabi: @LAO:

    Steve Vladeck@steve_vladeck

    The Office of Legal Counsel concluded in 1983 that it was illegal for JAG lawyers to simultaneously serve as Special Assistant U.S. Attorneys ((link: https://www.justice.gov/olc/page/file/965131/download) justice.gov/olc/page/file/…). But Congress expressly authorized such service in 1986 in current 10 U.S.C. § 806(d):

    (link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/806) law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10…

    9:27 PM · Jun 20, 2018

    https://mobile.twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1009608742785159173

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    trollhattan says:

    @Turner Hedenkoff:
    One of many things I already miss about Anthony Bourdain was his consistent praise and respect for restaurant workers at the back of the house, who are overwhelmingly immigrants from Latin America. Out of sight out of mind, just like much of the rest of our food chain.

    If they all decamped for “home” our farms and ranches, our processing and distribution networks, our food service industries would fall silent. These Republican assholes (but I repeat myself) think Cliven Bundy IS our agricultural industry.

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    ruemara says:

    @TenguPhule: But Hillary made speeches for money as a private citizen.

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    NotMax says:

    One can’t help but suspect that Mattis is drinking extra heavily these days.

    @Mark

    I wonder who is going to have to take the fall for this mess? We know the Buffoon is looking for a scapegoat. Sessions? Nielsen?

    Kelly.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    From media organization clips shown on Twitter, it appears our suspicion that the Third Lady’s “surprise visit” to the border was a White House-orchestrated photo-op has been 100% borne out.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Arclite: Nope. Just. Nope.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Brachiator:
    I like how these idiots give out their full names and where they live (assuming they are their real names). If things get crazier and more unhinged, I think Mary is going to regret ever giving out this information.

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    Spanky says:

    Geez! This whole losing track of the kids thing could be easily solved by giving each kid a number and, I don’t know, maybe tattooing it someplace? An arm, maybe?

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    @NotMax: It was his brainchild as the DHS secretary, so if he gets fired for this, he is not a scapegoat but because he bears responsibility. This is on him and his “protege” Nielsen and the of course the Orange in the WH.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: Its amazing how so many of these “average citizens” interviewed turn out to be local GOP party chairs.

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    LAO says:

    @Leto: Thanks , very interesting.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: He and Greenblatt have been in Saudi meeting with MBS for the past week about this. It’s DOA.

    Also, they indicted Bibi’s wife today.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Betty Cracker:
    It’s “working” insofar as grabbing a few headlines away from…everything that’s real. Even BBC web has it above the fold.

    Not to worry–Donny’s got this!

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    Leto says:

    @Betty Cracker: This is my surprised face. See me surprised? Ok, back to our regularly scheduled dystopia.

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    NotMax says:

    I ask again: Is the Walton family being paid for use of the ex-store? Are they thus knowingly complicit in this?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🌷 Martin: Yep. On the nosey! Unfortunately…

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    Mike in NC says:

    After the Czarina’s little field trip to the border she’ll be in need of a shopping spree in Houston or Dallas.

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    MP says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Hopefully, Bibi is the type of stand-up guy that won’t let his wife go to prison alone.

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    trollhattan says:

    @NotMax:
    Think it’s safe to assume the answer is “yes” unless proven otherwise. Any old Walmart store is part of their real estate portfolio and the site probably has restrictions on it prohibiting opening a big box store that would compete against the bigass new Walmart that replaced the closed store. So converting it to a prison is a big ol’ win!

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    burnspbesq says:

    @LAO:

    It happens in other areas as well. At least since the 1990s, significant numbers of IRS field lawyers have been disignated as SAUSAs in order to represent the IRS in Bankruptcy Court.

    DOJ never has all the headcount it needs. I’m surprised that using JAG officers like this hasn’t happened before (and FWIW, I am decidedly unconvinced by the posse comitatus argument).

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    Shana says:

    @TenguPhule: Interesting article in last week’s New Yorker about the tRump administration’s cluster fu&k that is their MidEast policy with lots of idiocy about Jared. Worth a read.

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    dww44 says:

    @westyny: I agree. He criticizes Dems so much and so blatantly that even the GOP cannot fail to acknowledge the dissembling. At least, intellectually, I think they have to see through this Trump tactic that’s way past being old and trite, although those on my Facebook feed don’t seem to have gotten the message. I now understand, firsthand, how Hitler conned the German peoples.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Now we know what happened to the girls and toddlers.

    Not quite; they’ll be adopted out to “approved families” (meaning, they only watch FOX news). It’ll be kinda like the Turpin Family in SoCal; you’ll grow up to vote Republican or no dessert for you.

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    sigaba says:

    Washington Post just corrected their story: CBP no longer referring migrant families to Justice for criminal prosecution.

    Justice maintains their have a zero-tolerance policy still in effect, but it appears they cannot force CBP to refer arrested immigrants.

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    trollhattan says:

    @MP:
    Bibi out loud: “This is a witchhunt by my enemies and I will fight to the end to see her exonerated!”
    Bibi to self: “Well, it’s sad but I can always get another wife. Plenty of precedent for that.”

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    Mary G says:

    M4, if you’re around: after determining that everyone, including a family in Wales, who claimed to be his owner was lying, LA Times reports that Chubbs has been adopted.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    A lot of these kids will never be reunited with their parents.

    And it will be impossible from the outside to tell the difference between kids who never get reunited with their parents because of genuine screw-ups with the system and kids who were deliberately trafficked out of the system. So instead of preventing child trafficking, we’ve enabled it. Heck of a job, Brownie!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: The serial killer in The Silence of the Lambs who was trying to make a suit out of women’s skin so he could become a woman. Played by the same guy that played the police captain on Monk.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

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    @🌷 Martin: They could go “old school” and use tattoos. //

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    Kay says:

    @PJ:

    I don’t believe the 20% “don’t care”. I think they’re Right leaning and they do care – a big part of the ideology is “we are morally superior”. Trump’s whole brand is “big” – great, awesome, no one has ever done this before, millions and billions pouring across the border, etc. It loses its power if it’s small and stingy and mean-spirited. Ityy bitty Sessions with his mean little mouth in a grim line, taking 2 year olds to detention. People saw the smallness behind the big talk with this one- they saw the individuals- LITERALLY small people- children-and the Trumpsters were abusing them. All the boasting about the wall and “sovereignty” and our cuture, all that bragging, came down to putting 6 year olds in poorly-run facilities. And it will ALWAYS come down to that, because it’s really true- these are small, petty, shallow people. They got some power and completely predictably they used it to punish people they don’t like.

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    Mike in DC says:

    @Brachiator:
    The best way to encourage Republican pols to stand up to Trump is by voting a bunch of them out of office and citing their support for Trump as the primary reason. Losing power is the one unforgivable sin to them.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Shana:
    Got around to watching Colbert’s Natalie Portman interview and the Kushner portion was pretty revealing, including the part where he asked if Jared was a good student.

    Daddy’s money, well-spent.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @D58826: Yet …

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    Leto says:

    @NotMax: I’ll go with yes until proven otherwise. This situation is a cash cow for corporations looking to make a quick grift/profit off of human suffering. The Walton’s aren’t exempt.

    @LAO: I still can’t believe that any active duty JAG would go along with this. It’s just… apparently part of the request was for attorneys who have some federal court room experience, and an immigration law refresher/CBT would be given (WTF???). It’s another part of the wholesale corruption being levied upon us/the government by Trumpov and ReTrumpicans? Trumpicans? Eh, BC had it right: Cockwaffles. I’m waiting for active duty military to be deployed as “security measures” in 2020. He’s not going to voluntarily leave.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Not to worry Republicans, take three voter suppression pills and call the Supreme Court in the morning. Roberts’ got yer back.

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    Mary G says:

    More breaking news:

    #Break: Corey Lewandowski has been dropped by his speakers bureau in the wake of “womp womp” remark … https://t.co/VmmvUAm9xZ— Dylan Byers (@DylanByers) June 21, 2018

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    germy says:

    Sara Netanyahu, wife of scandal-plagued Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has been charged with misusing state funds. She was indicted this morning.

    From CNN:

    In a case known as the “Meals Ordering Affair,” prosecutors say Sara Netanyahu used state money to pay for $100,000 worth of meals at the prime minister’s residence, according to an indictment filed in Jerusalem’s magistrate’s court on Thursday.

    Sara Netanyahu also illegally paid approximately $10,000 for private chefs, prosecutors said.

    The charges carry a maximum sentence of 8 years in prison.

    Her lawyers slammed the indictment, describing it as “false and hallucinatory”.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @sukabi: It doesn’t. Congress passed a law in 1986 that made it legal for staff judge advocates (SJAs), which are commonly referred to as JAGs, to be authorized to function as special assistant US Attorneys and detailed to the DOJ. I think they were envisioning using them for more routine things, such as prosecuting actual crimes that occur on military bases involving non military personnel, which they do actually do. Regardless, this is kosher under Title 32.

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    danielx says:

    @Kay:

    They are afraid that people will see they are mean-spirited assholes. That’s important to them- that their base not perceive them as nasty.

    I don’t often disagree with you, Kay, but in this instance I have to. Trump’s base is a group of nasty, mean-spirited assholes, and the nastier and more mean-spirited he is the better they like it. I mean, watch video of one of his Nuremberg-style rallies – his most assholish lines draw the biggest applause. Never mind that the other, say, 70% of Americans think he’s shit on roller skates – as long as he hears those cheers he’s sure he’s doing fine. As to others prominent in his administration, I don’t think Stephen Miller or Mick Mulvaney, to name just two, give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about how they are perceived as long as their policy priorities are going through.

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    Kay says:

    @sigaba:

    How Sessions maintains is beyond me. Just the utter humiliation of defending child abuse and then having to do a 180, not because he realized the DOJ cannot be in the child abuse business, but because Trump saw the political disaster- Jesus.

    Not a shred of self respect. None. He has the worst of both worlds. He promoted child abuse and his own government let him, and then revealed him as a psychopath. It’s the same for Conway and Kelly. They revealed what they are and now they don’t even get the policy. They sold their souls for nothing.

    It’s delicious, what happened to them as a result of this. I don’t think liberals are enjoying it enough. Dear Leader screwed them, again.

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    ruemara says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Kanye shrug. I live in a CA college town. I know enough Latinos to be horrified at how anti-immigrant some of them are. Virulently racist, Republican and as mentally shuttered as any of those good evil white folks that populate NYT stories. The Church, the culture and a real smug “we’re better because we’re legal/hear earlier” attitude. The increasing population does no good if their current crop of Latinos don’t get their heads out of their asses.

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    Brachiator says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Its amazing how so many of these “average citizens” interviewed turn out to be local GOP party chairs.

    I have been dismayed to find these noxious sentiments echoed almost word for word by people I encounter on a daily basis. And there is an open nastiness that I have not seen as often before. As always, your mileage may vary.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO:

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    ProudGradofCatLadyAcademy says:

    I need to get my eyes checked but i read the start of the last paragraph on BC’s post as “White House adviser Stephen Miller was accosted at a Mexican restaurant as White House Holocaust Advisor Stephen Miller and thought to myself- “well, at least they are being honest on his true agenda…” These are the old pair of glasses I have on, or maybe it’s just my brain reading the truth after all.

    My old cohorts in protest in 2017, Socialist Action -The Northern Worker– estimated 1000+ protesters- in answer to prior open thread’s question on how many people -They have a picture up on their FB page, it’s totally awesome to see that turn out. If I knew how to post a copy here I would for sure, but here’s a link. Someone asked on the last thread.

    https://www.facebook.com/thenorthernworker/?ref=search

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @LAO: sounds ominous. He sold the girls and now he’s trying to shift blame.

    Als, too, he definitely beat Melania up.

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    LAO says:

    @burnspbesq: I must say, the JAG officer was a pleasure to deal with (the second one, actually) and I purposely declined to call him by his rank because it was a civil courtroom.

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    Kay says:

    @danielx:

    It’s fine to disagree. What I want is for us not to get so married to our theories. We need new ideas, new approaches.

    Our political system-the “soft” system- media and political debate- is not working in this environment. Let’s see if there’s a new way of looking at it. If we decide what they are then we decide what we do and I feel like we’re going around in circles.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @TenguPhule:
    I don’t know about her being the local GOP party chair, but if this is the same Mary Reuter in Saulk Centre, Minn, she apparently works at the Central Minnesota Life Care Center https://givemn.org/organization/centralminnesotalifecarecenter

    Options for Women of Central Minnesota is a non-profit pregnancy resource center dedicated to reaching out in mercy, with compassion, to those faced with life changing decisions about an unplanned pregnancy, sharing the message of hope and life.
    We are also there for the young mother and baby after the baby is born.

    At Options for Women we offer:

    *Free and confidential pregnancy tests
    *Free and confidential lay counseling for pregnancy, abstinence, parenting
    *Free Ultasound Testing
    *Referrals for medical care, financial assistance, housing, STI testing, adoption
    *Material assistance for new and expectant mothers – including cribs, pack n’ plays, car seats, strollers, formula, baby food, diapers, new and used baby and maternity clothes.
    We also offer the Earn While You Learn Educational Program. We offer pre-natal and parenting classes.

    Doesn’t seem bad in and of itself, but the fact that she works here, supposedly to help mothers find options so they don’t have to get an abortion, doesn’t jive well with her opinion that all of the suffering of young immigrant children is “fake news”.

    She can’t even comprehend that separating children from parents at such a young age is harmful and is not the same as when US parents go to jail. Those kids at least usually get to stay with family members or foster families.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @danielx: this.

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    eric says:

    @Mary G: how does one say it? Oh yes. ‘womp womp motherfucker’

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Spanky: There is no Glock 9. GLOCKs chambered in 9×19 (9mm/9mm parabellum) are the G17 (full size), G19 (compact), G26 (subcompact doublestack), G43 (subcompact singlestack/micropistol), G34 (competition), G17L (full size with the competition long slide).

    Please know your GLOCKs. Learn them, love them, live them.//

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    jacy says:

    @TenguPhule:

    The only saving grace is that this group is too stupid and incompetent to pull off even a smaller-scale genocide. They just aren’t smart enough. And even those who aren’t natively stupid are so cosseted in their bubble that they don’t understand the simplest concepts of real-world mechanisms. The best of them only possess a low cunning. Eventually that will be their undoing, but we’ll have to see how much they destroy first.

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    Mike in DC says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The better question is, in what year will the number of registered Latino voters in TX outnumber registered white voters?

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @LAO: Yeah. I don’t know what to do about this – the media doesn’t publicize this as the truly evil shit that it is, and exposing this to his followers just makes them happier.

    I’m starting to think that we really are going to have to arrest Trump after he leaves office for human rights abuses. I don’t know what else we can do to discourage it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @MP: My guess is Bibi is trying to cut a deal that if he testifies against her, he’ll get immunity from prosecution. Because he is that kind of guy.

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    LAO says:

    Did I miss this story — Fucking Maine!

    Border Patrol agents shut down I-95 southbound in Maine. “If you want to continue down the road, then yes ma’am. We need to know what citizen — what country you’re a citizen of,” an agent said. This is insane.https://t.co/ZPUnXtrTHm— Michael Socolow (@MichaelSocolow) June 21, 2018

    I can’t believe this is happening.

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    germy says:

    @Mary G:

    dropped by his speakers bureau

    That should hit him right in his wallet.

    So many of the people, I find myself wondering “But what do they do for money? Surely they don’t send resumes to temp agencies” (“proficient in Word and Excel”). Then I remember all the money they rake in on the speechmaking circuit. This should hurt him.

    Maybe he can launch a patreon account.

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    eric says:

    @Adam L Silverman: he could ask Congress to pass a law waiving extradition. i put it at 50-50 with this crew,

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    raven says:

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s pretty hard to play roulette with a magazine fed weapon.

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    frosty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I work under some IDIQ contracts.
    Ours say Indefinite Delivery Indefinite Quantity. A little more manageable than Infinite…Although I like the idea there’s an infinite upset limit.

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    Chet Murthy says:

    This comment at Crooked Timber by Glen Tomkins regarding this child separation policy really opened my eyes

    The real issue for their party and their movement is what to do about the 11 million. That’s the demographic tide that faces them with the prospect of losing FL, TX, AZ, NV, and more, and with that loss, everything. The Ds get the trifecta, forever, if just TX and FL flip. Everything else is gravy and overkill.

    One thing this latest baby-torturing ploy has done for the “they” we’re talking about here, is that it has committed their party to getting rid of the 11 million as its only viable alternative. No more flirting with the idea their “moderates” have of reaching some sort of deal with the Ds for a pathway to citizenship that will de-blacken the reputation of their party enough to make them competitive again with Hispanic voters. “They” burned that bridge. No more effective moderation on this issue within their party, well, not unless the moderates break with “them” clearly and decisively. That’s not going to happen. Such moderates will assimilate, get primaried or self-deport from Congress. The one thing they won’t do is even try to wrest control of the party back from “them”.

    He’s pretty convincing that this is also a scorched-earth tactic to ensure that GrOPer pols have nowhere to go except to the right.

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    raven says:

    It’s pretty hard to play roulette with a magazine fed

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    raven says:

    what the fuck is this moderation bullshit

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    waspuppet says:

    “… so they’ll go back to the Obama-era status quo …”

    It’s almost as if the policies regarding huge, complex problems are there for reasons, and the unearned bluster of a senile, racist failed real estate developer from Queens doesn’t magically fix everything.

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    germy says:

    @raven: Happens to the best of us.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @LAO:

    I know what this signifies but, damn it, I would love to see an actual goat rodeo. It would be the greatest day ever. 🐐

    But I don’t want a goat rodeo running my government.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: This is the map of where CBP claims it has jurisdiction based on the “within 100 miles of any port of entry into the US”. This is also where approximately 70 to 75% of all Americans live.
    https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/22/imagemap.gif

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    trollhattan says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Oh my. [/Sulu]

    What kind of clip do they take? :-P

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @eric: Why would he need Congress to do anything. This is an Israeli court. In Israel. Where he’s the prime minister.

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    LAO says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    But I don’t want a goat rodeo running my government.

    Too late.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Kay:

    I know most of you disagree with me, but I want you to consider the vulnerability of assholism :)

    They are afraid that people will see they are mean-spirited assholes. That’s important to them- that their base not perceive them as nasty. There’s some evidence for this, too, as far as Democrats. In Virginia and Alabama Democrats basically ran on “we are not vicious, petty assholes”. The PETTY part seems key to me- SMALL. It makes them SMALLER. Easier to beat :)

    Kay,

    I don’t know if I have disagreed with you all the way.

    I honestly believe that they don’t care. They really don’t.
    When I say that they want to party like it’s 1948, I mean that.
    I think what bothers them is that we- OUR SIDE- hasn’t even tried for the middle ground. They’re so used to us trying to ‘ make nice’. They thought that it was automatic.
    WHERE is our deference to him as President, and thus, by extension, deference to them for voting for him?

    Instead, we’ve told him to go Phuck Off.
    We tell the MSM to stop with the ‘ this is his pivot’ bullshyt.
    And, we’ve told them to stop with the phucking articles about his voters.
    WE are holding them accountable for voting for him.
    YOU articulated it best, Kay, when you pointed out, all those months ago, that their vote for him defines THEIR LACK OF CHARACTER.
    Ever since you put that into words, I never forgot it, and have used it repeatedly, because you nailed it.
    They are so angry that we haven’t cowed to them.
    I don’ think that they care about us, Kay. They just want us to ‘understand’ how much better they are over us.
    If they are concerned about anyone seeing them for who they are, it’s that idiot ‘center’. Because, usually, they are able to throw some shiny object to give them a figleaf to explain their support. That hasn’t happened.

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    NotMax says:

    @LAO

    Repeating from this past autumn (emphasis added).

    Within 100 miles of the border and the coastline, Border Patrol agents have broad authority to stop cars and people for immigration questions. For example, over the past few months the agency has set up checkpoints in New Hampshire, stopping hundreds of cars and arresting more than two dozen unauthorized immigrants.
    [snip]
    Since the agency can stop and question any car or person within 100 air miles of the border, including 100 miles from the coastline, nearly two-thirds of the U.S. population falls under Border Patrol jurisdiction — and that includes basically all of New England.

    Unlike local law enforcement, U.S. Border Patrol agents can pull over a vehicle if they have reasonable suspicion its occupants are of “illegal alienage” — that basically means someone who is in the country illegally.

    I ask [U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brad] Brant how agents could determine “illegal alienage” without racial profiling?

    “We’re not allowed to do racial profiling, so we use, we develop articulable facts,” Brant says. “You know, I have 18 years doing this, so I can kind of tell, regardless of somebody’s race, whether or not they’re — I can look at you, the way you’re dressed, the way you act, the way you walk; you’re probably from Vermont. If you were dressed a lot differently, that didn’t fit in, that would be an articulable fact.”

    But James Lyall, executive director of the ACLU of Vermont, says these descriptions alone — without other evidence — wouldn’t hold up in court.

    “None of those things by themselves would constitute reasonable suspicion of alienage,” says Lyall.
    [snip]
    Even the way a recent U.S. Customs and Border Protection policy description explains when race and ethnicity can be used leaves much open to individual interpretation. The Aug. 10 description walks a fuzzy line, saying racial profiling is not allowed, but an agent could use race and nationality as an indicator in certain situations.

    “CBP has on its website what it will be looking at, and it does say that again they want to not use racial profiling, but it then goes on to say that some of these things might be indicators,” says Leslie Holman, an immigration attorney in Vermont, and a former president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

    Holman says the priorities of the presidential administration weigh heavily on just how these nuances are interpreted.

    “And CBP doesn’t operate on its own, but they are given direction from the administration,” Holman says.

    U.S Border Patrol won’t say whether they have been given new directives by the Trump administration.… Source

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    delk says:

    Probably going to have to say goodbye to my sweet dog, Gav this evening.

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    Chip Daniels says:

    I would love to be a fly on the wall watching the kitchen staff prepare Miller and Nielsen’s food.
    “Special sauce” indeed.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @frosty: Brain fart. Thanks for catching that, I’ll go back and fix it.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Mike in DC:

    The best way to encourage Republican pols to stand up to Trump is by voting a bunch of them out of office and citing their support for Trump as the primary reason.

    I don’t think this will change their beliefs or behavior. But I want to be rid of them all the same.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @delk: I’m sorry, delk. You gave Gav the absolutely best life and best chance you could. All the best you and your partner and Gav.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @frosty: To Indefinity and Beyond!!!//

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    Elizabelle says:

    @LAO: I rather like goats. Useful, curious, social animals.

    Trump rodeo? Uh, no. Toxic off the charts.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @raven: Snap caps mixed in with live ammo.

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    rikyrah says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    I read this yesterday, and sadly, couldn’t disagree with a word you said.

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    Kelly says:

    @LAO: If stopped I would with wide eyed innocence, earnestly and relentlessly talk to the Border Control folks about the dangers to their souls from working for an evil organization. Probably wave me thru fairly quickly. A similar conversation ended all phone calls from right wing outfits.

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    Leto says:

    @LAO: @Adam L Silverman:

    From the ACLU article, THE CONSTITUTION IN THE 100-MILE BORDER ZONE:

    The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects Americans from random and arbitrary stops and searches.

    According to the government, however, these basic constitutional principles do not apply fully at our borders. For example, at border crossings (also called “ports of entry”), federal authorities do not need a warrant or even suspicion of wrongdoing to justify conducting what courts have called a “routine search,” such as searching luggage or a vehicle.

    Even in places far removed from the border, deep into the interior of the country, immigration officials enjoy broad—though not limitless—powers. Specifically, federal regulations give U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) authority to operate within 100 miles of any U.S. “external boundary.”

    In this 100-mile zone, Border Patrol agents have certain additional authorities. For instance, Border Patrol can operate immigration checkpoints.

    Border Patrol, nevertheless, cannot pull anyone over without “reasonable suspicion” of an immigration violation or crime (reasonable suspicion is more than just a “hunch”). Similarly, Border Patrol cannot search vehicles in the 100-mile zone without a warrant or “probable cause” (a reasonable belief, based on the circumstances, that an immigration violation or crime has likely occurred).

    In practice, Border Patrol agents routinely ignore or misunderstand the limits of their legal authority in the course of individual stops, resulting in violations of the constitutional rights of innocent people. These problems are compounded by inadequate training for Border Patrol agents, a lack of oversight by CBP and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the consistent failure of CBP to hold agents accountable for abuse. No matter what CBP officers and Border Patrol agents think, our Constitution applies throughout the United States, including within this “100-mile border zone.”

    And there’s more at the link. Everyone should take a look at it just for general knowledge in case we run into something like this.

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    PJ says:

    @Kay: I am open to anything that changes the political direction of this country in a positive way, and I agree that standard political debate and media presentation in 2016 did not cut it (not helped, obviously, by media manipulation by the Russians, collaboration between the Trump campaign and the Russians, and voter suppression in important states (and I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that Russians had hacked the polls in some states)). But I believe there are three main policies the Republican party pursues and that most Republicans support:

    1) Reduction and ultimately elimination of taxation of the wealthy;
    2) Reduction and ultimately elimination of regulation of industries controlled by the wealthy;
    3) Restricting the right of likely non-Republicans (i.e., non-white and young people) to vote.

    I don’t know if the Steve Schmidts and Rick Wilsons of America fall into that group, but the people who are in favor of these policies are not going to vote for Democrats.

    That still leaves some “independents” who are reachable, I think. We need to:
    1) Aggressively challenge media representation of liberal ideas and policies, emphasizing how they benefit all or most Americans, not just a few, and objecting to every instance of bothsiderism and horserace handicapping.
    2) Emphasize how Republican policies are often cruel and vicious and usually only a benefit a small portion of the population. We also need to emphasize the complete corruption of the Trump Administration and how much of what they do is for the benefit of Russia.
    3) Not worry about “civility”, show respect where it is due but not where it is completely undeserved.
    4) Emphasize how many of our basic rights are at stake in presenting a positive vision of the country we could be.
    5) Get out every vote possible, particularly among the young.

    I know none of this is new, but I think a large part of the problem in changing things is that the media is often reluctant to present the truth and Americans are often reluctant, if not totally opposed, to hearing the truth. We are working against almost 40 years of right-wing claptrap dominating public discourse such that any deviation from it sounds like heresy.

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    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: @NotMax: I’m embarrassed that I did not know this. Thanks to both of you for the links/information.

    @Elizabelle: As was previously pointed out, Goat Rodeo has a particular definition:

    It describes a situation that involves many individuals screw ups, and implies that the fuck up is already well underway, meaning that there is no hope in stopping the mess. Usually said with a defeated tone:
    Ready to go to this Goat Rodeo? Its gonna be terrible.

    From the Urban Dictionary

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    Spanky says:

    @delk: shit.

    We all know what awaits us at the end when we sign on, but it’s always hard to get through.

    I wish the best to you, and a peaceful passage for Gav.

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    LAO says:

    @Kelly: I’m fairly certain that if I were stopped by the Border Patrol, I’d be arrested. Thankfully, I know of few dozens defense attorneys.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Chet Murthy: Yep, Miller calls it “constructive controversy—with the purpose of enlightenment.”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stephen-miller-trump-adviser/561317/

    Is this guy serious?

    I put that question to Miller, one way or another, repeatedly over the course of our meeting. He insists that he believes every word he says, and that he is not a fan of “provocation for its own sake.” But after some reflection, he admits that he has long found value in doing things that generate what he calls “constructive controversy—with the purpose of enlightenment.”

    This is what makes Miller different from all the other Republican apparatchiks who became supervillains when they joined the Trump administration: He has been courting infamy since puberty. From Santa Monica High School to Duke University to Capitol Hill, his mission—always—has been to shock and offend the progressive sensibilities of his peers. He revels in riling them, luxuriates in their disdain.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    . So they have no funding to do anything but what they were doing before it was put in place. My guess is that CBP, ICE, and HHS’s ORR have already burned through their budgets for the year. They don’t have the personnel to cover down. And they can’t give more work to their existing indefinitefinite duration/indefinitefinite quantity (IDIQ) omnibus contractors because they don’t have the money to pay the new contracting fees. So something has to give.

    I had not thought of the money. Yeah, where IS the money for all of this coming from?

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The word is Miller was abused as a kid so that’s why he such a shit as an adult and apparently Miller gets off on this kidnapping nonsense. . So I assume you weren’t snarking about Miller going serial killer.

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    eric says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I am assuming he has to flee the jurisdiction to live off his ill gotten wealth somewhere other than Israel

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @delk: I’m so sorry to read that. Keeping good thoughts for you both.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    luxuriates in their disdain

    By rights ought to read “luxuriates in their revulsion.”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Leto: I’ve read it.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @TenguPhule: Like the real death camps, it’s about who gets the construction contracts.

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    Leto says:

    @rikyrah: Medicare/Medicaid/SNAP/other programs to help the poor/less fortunate. That was part of the “compromise” immigration bill that was offered up by the Granny Starver. They’ll find the money by continuing to hurt those that need help the most.

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    Mart says:

    @🌷 Martin: @rikyrah: Chips. They need to put chips in the kids and parents. That should work well for tracking and would be very popular with the base. FEMA prison camps with chip implants in the prisoners. In Texas. Perfect… as long as it only applies to the blahs.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @jonas: Honestly, I wouldn’t be shocked if they took a page from the Republican Hymnal of Projection and brought in some child actors, with the actual refugee kids turfed off somewhere else (worse) in the interim. Maybe even share some bright and shiny pictures of those happy little buggers.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @hitchhiker:

    Don’t they? At some point?

    Take heart, it’s clear with this child abuse scandal people’s eyes are stating to open. After all it’s a very short step from having their babies take to having your baby taken.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: There is no credible evidence I’ve seen reported that he was abused. None of the recollections by any of the folks he went to school with, as well as guidance counselor, make any mention of extra familial abuse. I’ve seen one anonymous source indicate that he was mistreated by his peers. His immediate family are the Santa Monica equivalents of slum lords, that suffered when the real estate market crashed. His rabbi is on the record as saying “we did the best we could with him”. Between nature and nurture he is what he is. A sociopath raised by bigots who was coddled by authority every time they caved to his outrageous demands. He learned he could get away with anything if he threw a big enough tantrum because the adults just wanted him to go away because they had more important things to deal with.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: I’m not the Stephen Miller whisperer.

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    rikyrah says:

    @TenguPhule:

    I can’t disagree with anything you’ve been writing about this situation.

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    Leto says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Lookit mr bookworm here… /s :P

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Probably going to have to say goodbye to my sweet dog, Gav this evening.

    @delk: I am truly sorry. You know that day is coming the first day you get them, but there’s nothing that can prepare you for it, even if you’ve done it before. I have, twice. I can honestly say that I think the only thing worse would be the death of one of your own children.

    Godspeed, Gav. We’ll see you soon enough.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Some numbers.

    The Trump administration plans to pay a Texas nonprofit nearly half a billion dollars this year to care for immigrant children who were detained crossing the U.S. border illegally, according to government data.

    The nonprofit, Southwest Key Programs Inc., is to be paid more than $458 million in fiscal 2018, according to the data — the most among the organizations, government agencies and companies that run a detention and care system for immigrant children on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services. Southwest Key has about a dozen facilities in Texas, including a site at a former WalMart Inc. store in Brownsville that has drawn attention from members of Congress and national news organizations.
    [snip]The government already expects to spend $943 million in 2018 in grants to detain and care for the children, according to ACF data — a figure that may increase as the Trump administration apprehends more families crossing the border. The government spent $958 million in all of fiscal 2017, which ended Sept. 30, according to the data. Source

    Related.

    In an official statement posted to Twitter, Southwest Key said it does not support separating families at the border. The company posted the statement after Trump signed an executive order ending it.
    [snip]
    …an investigation by Reveal and The Texas Tribune found that state inspectors found 246 violations at Southwest Key’s facilities,…. Source

    Call me cynical but I find it difficult to imagine that the regulations in Texas are particularly stringent.

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    patroclus says:

    The Democrats are bringing it on the House Floor today! This is riveting TV! The few Republicans speaking are all, like, “yeah we know it’s terrible but it’s the best we can do.” And the Dems are all, like, “YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY YOUR MAKER FOR THIS HOLOCAUST!!” For any of us who criticize Dems for being mealy-mouthed and timid, not today.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Not to diminish the horribleness of the practice, but it was one of the most effective identity systems ever developed. May it never be put to use ever again.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Chet Murthy:

    that was a reply that makes one think

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    Leto says:

    @NotMax: General Dynamics is looking to pocket at least $15M so far.

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    NotMax says:

    @Leto

    Don’t have a link but am sure I read that Halliburton has its claw thrust into this stinky pie as well.

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    BillyGintheD says:

    Hey, France,
    How you doing, man? Que pasa, eh? (Knew that seventh grade French was gonna come in handy!) Listen, need a favor. That statue, you know, lady with the torch, teeming refuse of our fetid shores, etc etc. Well, can you maybe take her back? Turns out we’re not into that anymore. Pick it up early July? First Wednesday of the month would be fine.
    Yours,
    America

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    CindyH says:

    @Kay: I doubt they care because they believe anything disparaging is fake news – as one of them who I was once friends with posted on Facebook about the immigration debacle:
    “Only one party in this country is trying to do something.Many democratic Presidents could of [sic] done something but chose not to. Party for the people has absolutely no platform or candidate to do anything but disagree with POTUS. Why he won and will again.”

    They believe the crap spewed on Fox, One America, Newsmax, etc. They are Tools.

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    westyny says:

    @Elizabelle: Though some part of me would rather enjoy Trump keeping my lawn trim by eating it as part of his community service. It would also become the only family friendly definition of “Trump trimmer” to be found on Urban Dictionary.

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    catclub says:

    @trollhattan:

    So converting it to a prison is a big ol’ win!

    wasnt there some war game something helm maybe, that was going to use walmarts to round up red blooded americans? I guess the Obama admin shoudl have shredded those plans.

    google says: Jade Helm

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    satby says:

    @delk: oh delk, I’m so sorry. I’ve been seeing the updates on Gav and know you’ve been battling to save him for a while. I’m sorry that the time appears to have come. Gav has had a doggie heaven on earth, the love and care of his person. And you gave him that,all Gav could want. Peace for you both.

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    NotMax says:

    @catclub

    And it turns out the whole Jade Helm conspiracy mishmash was cooked up and actively promoted by a country whose name starts with R and ends with ussia.

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    joel hanes says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    What the ICE officer won’t tell you is that he’s asking a question that you are not legally obligated to answer. It’s a lie by omission.

    They don’t have legal authority to actually demand your papers except at the border.
    People can and should refuse. Some do.
    When they do, they are allowed to proceed, because the fascist goons know that they have no legal leg on which to stand.

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    Spanky says:

    @raven:

    It’s pretty hard to play roooolette with a magazine fed

    That was my point about “They go first”.

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Ask Brandon Lee how that mix turned out.

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    catclub says:

    @NotMax: hoocoodanode?

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    les says:

    Also, the Third Lady is making a “surprise visit” to one of her odious husband’s shameful stolen child incarceration centers to see “what’s real,” according to CNN:

    But a US Senator can’t visit without 2 weeks notice. There’s just no end to the shit.

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    hugely says:

    @hitchhiker: ah but the anger of the liberals is real

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    Ksmiami says:

    @MisterForkbeard: again it’ll be scaffolding or orange jumpsuits with this administration. Crimes against humanity etc

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    Ksmiami says:

    @CindyH: I call them mushy headed fox-addled soulless zombies, but tool works too.

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    cmorenc says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Power centers being what they are, social costs are likely all we’ll ever extract from the Trumps and their evil cabal, so I want those costs to be maximized, including, at the very least, a life of ordering take-out food under fake names.

    And even with take-out ordered under a fake name, they would be forever at risk of Uber delivery drivers finding out who the real party was they were delivering for, and spitting in their food on the drive over. They could never be sure the kitchen or delivery person wasn’t on to them and did something nasty but difficult to immediately detect to their food.

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    J R in WV says:

    @LAO:

    Trump accuses Dems of creating “massive child smuggling industry””People are suffering because of the Democrats. They created & they have let it happen, a massive child smuggling industry. The human traffickers are making a fortune. It’s a disgrace.”

    If there is actually “a massive child smuggling industry” in the world, why hasn’t President Trump started a professionally run law enforcement operation to stop it?

    He has control of the worlds best government, surely he can stop child abuse? Introduce control of illegal trafficking of little girls?

    Or can he? Least competent manager in the history of America, for sure.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @J R in WV:

    If there is actually “a massive child smuggling industry” in the world, why hasn’t Trump started a professionally run law enforcement operation to stop it?

    Because he’s the one who’s running it. Where do you think they got the money for the internment camps in the first place?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Ksmiami:

    it’ll be scaffolding or orange jumpsuits with this administration.

    Porque no dos?

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    Lizzy L says:

    @delk: I’m sorry. I hope it’s a peaceful passing.

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    The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of Compassion says:

    @delk: My thoughts, my heart are with you.

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    J R in WV says:

    @raven:

    “It’s pretty hard to play roulette with a magazine fed weapon.”

    True, but… We win every game that way ~!!!!~

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    ljdramone says:

    @NotMax:

    … Stabsscharführer [Stephen] Miller?

    Um, not to be an *ahem* German translation Nazi or nuthin’, but I’m not sure Miller deserves the rank of a senior NCO.

    I’d go for “Standartenführer Miller” myself. Makes him a zero (roughly equivalent to colonel), and translates to “Standard [in the sense of a flag] Leader” to match his role in the Trump misadministration.

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