MJ Hegar – Doors

VoteVets.org is one of my favorite follows. As a military BRAT, sister, daughter and niece of wartime vets, I am thrilled at all the military vets, many of them women, running for office this year.  I think you’ll enjoy the video.

Open thread

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    This is an interesting thread:

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    rikyrah says:

    I, too, am impressed with all the female vets running for office. I think it’s great.

    PS- Animal pictures are always welcome.

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    @TaMara (HFG): Click on it to read the entire thread. He’s angry. I’m always buoyed when a republican has an awakening. I don’t care how they come to it, I’m glad they come to it.

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @Conor_Shine
    Breaking: @AmericanAir says it has asked U.S. government to ‘immediately refrain’ from transporting migrant children separated from their families at the border on its aircraft. Doesn’t acknowledge whether such children have been on previous flights.

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    lamh36 says:

    Oh please… “the FLOTUS pressed Chump to keep families together”…as if Chump cares one wit what she has to say…

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @TaMara (HFG): Nah, we are not all part of the problem. Trump and his imps created a problem by implementing an unnecessary policy of separating migrant families. He can put an end to it if and when he decides to do so.

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    pluky says:

    @TaMara (HFG): Military brat?!? Army brat here. Would have gone to the USMA, but Mother Nature decided to make me VERY myopic (like twice the waiver limit!). Daddy was pissed, but what could he do?

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    D58826 says:

    Listening to Der Fuhrer and his balllickers. Trump claims he has liberated American towns from the invasion of MS13. MS13 is home grown. The Gopers and the ass lickers are blaming all of this on the democrats but want the democrats to help pass reform

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    lamh36 says:

    2m2 minutes ago
    I was sad because I traveled thousands of miles seeking amnesty, only to have my screaming child ripped from my hands by an armed ICE agent — until I met a GOP lawmaker whose kid won’t get to have steak with Trump



    Oh noes…they cancelled the congressional picnic…so sad…for the Congressional families and childen who came to..

    FUQ em…go to the damn Smithsonian…it’s free…learn some fuq’n history

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    Yarrow says:

    Thanks for this post, TaMara. Great video.

    I’m going to repeat my request for a regular feature here on Dems running for office in various states. Maybe do one state each time and do it two or three times a week. Maybe double up with smaller states that have fewer people running. Highlight some good people we can support. Include a link to donate.

    The news is so relentlessly awful that it’s nice to have a post where we can do something and support good people. Plus it gives them a little more exposure to people who maybe wouldn’t see them otherwise.

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    @pluky: Air Force here!! Until I was 16 and my dad retired. Hand to Dog, it took me years to not wish all men arrived in crisp uniform to sweep me off my feet.

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    D58826 says:

    I really feel sorry for the fact checkers on this rambing word salad. About the only words that are not a lie are ‘a’ ‘the’ and ‘and’.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Great video. Hegar is clearly a bad-ass, and I hope she bounces the teaturd shit-stain.

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    rikyrah says:


    ALL of the airlines need to be asked.

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    Tom says:

    @D58826: Not so fast! Remember what Mary McCarthy once said about Lillian Hellman: “…every word she writes is a lie, including “and” and “the.”

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    D58826 says:

    OMG middle eastern terrorists are sneaking into the US by claiming to be the parent of a Central American child. WHO knew!!!!!!!!

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    D58826 says:

    @Tom: sigh. I stand corrected. I suspect that even the spaces are a lie

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    JPL says:

    Great video!
    @TaMara (HFG): and excellent thread. When I heard the news about the baby prisons today, it didn’t come as a total surprise but I still spent the morning in tears.

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    Nicole says:

    That was a great video. I heart her already.

    So, I read Steve Schmidt’s resignation from the GOP, and, as I thought, he’s taking the coward’s way out and declaring himself an Independent. Sorry, Schmidt, Independents are just Republicans with enough self-awareness to be embarrassed about it in front of other people.

    Here’s how a former GOP’er does it for real. Not to embarrass our esteemed blog host, but it’s still one of the best things I ever read on the intertoobs.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Well, after all, all those brown people look alike … //

    Also, since many of the people coming here from places like Guatemala or Honduras do NOT speak Spanish as their first language, they don’t necessarily have Spanish names, which seems to be confusing the fuck out of morons like Trump.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @lamh36: first they came for the potato salad and I said nothing, for it was mayo based and I prefer mustard based…

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    lamh36 says:

    So far at least, the reporters are still talking about Chump in negative terms…

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Agreed re “we are not all part of the problem.”

    I guess when people use that formulation, it’s sometimes because they are/were part of the problem, and now that they’re woke, they think everyone else felt the same way? Because all they can see are people like them?

    Is it a way to assuage guilt? “I did’t get it before, therefore I won’t admit that others actually did” … so everyone has to be “part of the problem.” Collective guilt, or too much might fall on me. It’s everybody’s fault, therefore it’s nobody’s fault.

    Anyway, will check out the link TaMara posted.

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    Platonailedit says:


    Tbe hill reports that schimdt is voting dem.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Who would know it would be the salsa that got people to wake up?

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    Joey Maloney says:

    News for our estimable blogmaster:

    West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Faces 22-Count Federal Indictment

    CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — FBI agents have arrested West Virginia Supreme Court Justice Allen Loughry and taken him to the federal courthouse in Charleston to face a 22-count federal indictment.

    U.S. Attorney Mike Stuart said Wednesday that Loughry is charged with 16 counts of mail fraud, two counts of wire fraud, one count of witness tampering and three counts of making false statements to a federal agent.

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    lamh36 says:

    19m19 minutes ago
    More Sleeping Giants Retweeted Conor Shine
    BREAKING: This is the rumor we were hearing yesterday. It was @AmericanAir that was flying these children that were separated from their parents around the country.

    This is a lie. They knew it was happening and they did as they were told. American Airlines should be shut down.

    No one is shutting down AA, but I agree that higher ups at AA knew what they were doing.

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    NotMax says:

    @Steve in the ATL

    Dang, now have a hankering for potato salad. At 7 a.m.

    (Coincidentally there happens to be some in the fridge. Store bought, though, so requires doctoring before consuming.)

    Exercising supreme self-control, shall stick only with the fresh mug o’ java just poured.

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    Mary G says:

    That is a brilliant campaign ad. The theme of doors she’s had to break down, then at the end a shot of the incumbent’s closed office and “We’ll show him the door” is so smart.

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    D58826 says:

    @Platonailedit: Wonder if Nicholle Wallace will comment on that today. She and Schmidt were the team that gave us Sarah Palin

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    lamh36 says:

    Follow Follow @dabeard
    ICE lied, told flight attendants the kids were a soccer team. They weren’t. Now this flight attendant won’t work when the US transports children away from their parents. “I might as well have been a collaborator on their transport.”


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    Mnemosyne says:


    There’s a link in the thread below that says that the AA flight attendants were told that the kids were part of a soccer team and the ICE agents were the coaches. Now they feel sick knowing that they were complicit in helping ICE. 😪

    ETA: Cross-posted!

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    joel hanes says:

    Athenae at First Draft has something to say about doors. And cages.

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    Nicole says:

    @Platonailedit: That’s well and good (and I mean that sincerely) but having an (R) after his name wouldn’t have prevented him from voting for a Democrat before. In his statement, he referred to himself as an Independent. Which, as far as I’m concerned, is a Republican who’s too embarrassed to admit it. As a Democrat, that feeling of embarrassment is unfamiliar to me. I’ve never been ashamed to admit it. As Cole’s blog post from 2007 said, when you oppose something, you have to be willing to actually join the opposition.

    I reserve the right to be pleasantly surprised if I am wrong about Schmidt. But I think he’s afraid to go full Dem because he thinks it’ll limit his appearances on the teevee. And it probably would.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Betty Cracker:
    Yup, she’s impressive as hell and the video quality is tip-top. Heli door segway was genius.

    I hope her opponent is sweating bullets.

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    Tokyokie says:


    FUQ em…go to the damn Smithsonian…it’s free…learn some fuq’n history

    I’d say the capital museum they should all visit instead of eating charred cow flesh with der Trumpenführer is the Holocaust Museum. They might be able to see history repeating itself.

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    Leto says:

    @TaMara (HFG): @pluky: It doesn’t always get said, but thank you guys for your support. Military families, kids especially, go through unique hardships/trials that most people will never know. If it wasn’t for the help/support/love you guys give, most of us would never be able to serve as effectively as we do. Thank you!

    Regarding the video: fuck yes! Aim high, Airman!

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    lamh36 says:

    Well, well, what’s happening in WV?

    I’m sure it’s a Conseva-Dem, but still…interesting…we’ll see how it ends

    Follow Follow @TopherSpiro
    More Topher Spiro Retweeted MonmouthPoll
    Whoa. The Democrat is up by at least 6 points in a district Trump won by **50 points**

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    NotMax says:


    More than 20 fighters from an Iraqi paramilitary force key to the battle against the Daesh group were killed Monday in an eastern Syria air raid the United States linked to Israel.
    Both Syrian authorities and Iraqi forces pointed the finger at the US-led coalition, which denied it was involved in Sunday night’s attack.

    “We have reasons to believe that it was an Israeli strike,” a US official told AFP on condition of anonymity. Source

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    lamh36 says:

    If Melanoma had ANYTHING to do with Chump backing down, I’d bet it was something like “I’m leave you before Mueller gets ya” or “I’ll never do another photo op” or just “sure I’ll hold your hand in public”

    Even with those possibilities, I’m calling bullshit on he having ANYTHING to do with him backing down.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Nicole: The Richmond Times Dispatch Disgrace in Virginia fell all over itself in 2016, over endorsing Gary Johnson instead of Donald Trump. So audacious, they thought.

    Such fucking cowards, I thought. They did not learn from John Warner’s example (when he repudiated Oliver North). Courage might have brought them a few more subscribers. But no.

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    NotMax says:


    All she need do is swipe the bulbs from his tanning bed and hold them hostage. In a cage.

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    Yarrow says:

    @lamh36: @Mnemosyne: ICE is the Gestapo or Stasi or whatever the proper comparison is. They MUST be disbanded.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Well, well. Fuck the fucking NY Times just sent out this email alert.

    Michael Bloomberg plans to spend $80 million on the midterms to help Democrats take control of the House

    Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1:13 PM EST

    Michael R. Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York City, has decided to throw his political clout and personal fortune behind the Democratic campaign to take control of the House of Representatives this year, directing aides to spend tens of millions of dollars in an effort to expel Republicans from power.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Elizabelle: Weren’t you and I just saying you could tell things were falling apart now? Yet another sign.

    Tick tock, motherfuckers!

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    🌷 Martin says:

    Trump isn’t backing down. If he does sign something, expect it to be controversial in some other way, wind up in the courts, so that he can blame the courts & Democrats for why he can’t stop this thing.

    I know this tactic – I use it a lot. If you can’t mobilize support for a position you want due to risk aversion, then make the problem bigger than the risk. Trump has done that. If he doesn’t get the payoff he wants, he’s not going to stop, he’s just going to put that leverage in a different place. And no, I don’t think Trump is that calculating, but I do think that Miller and others are.

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    stinger says:

    @Mary G: Agreed. Wish I could vote for her. But I can donate!

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    trollhattan says:

    @Mary G:
    The recurring door theme has me remembering SEK’s brilliant “Mad Men” deconstructions and their use door symbology. Miss that guy.

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    Yarrow says:

    List of companies profiting from Trump ripping kids from families. Click through for more in thread.

    Who profits from ripping kids away from their parents? Comprehensive Health Services Inc. of Florida, to the tune of $65 million. @ProPublica @MiamiHerald @SunSentinel— David Beard (@dabeard) June 20, 2018

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    @lamh36: I just tweeted about this. They could really redeem themselves if they decided to donate all of the pre-cooked steaks and other parts of the picnic to homeless vets but I doubt there is anyone in the Trump Whitehouse savvy enough to realise what an opportunity it could be for them. Ha Ha Ha Ha. I crack myself up sometimes.

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    scav says:

    Companies damn well have to pay closer attention to public opinion, far more so that our so-called political representatives. We can make the corporations hurt in non-election years and without the need for deep-pocket backers. It’s not the goodness of their beady little hearts, but it’s a tool we should wield.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Yarrow: I believe we were. Happy dance. It’s coming, motherfuckers. It’s like the dinosaur footfalls making the water in the glass tremble.

    But, back to business: got to see what Trump and advisors york up with the executive order. We could do with a boring day or two, no?

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    dmsilev says:

    @🌷 Martin: Josh Marshall thinks basically the same thing:

    The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @trollhattan: I would love to see those, if you have some links.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Elizabelle: It is. It’s coming. They will pay. These evil people, these traitors to our country, they will pay.

    We sure could use a slow news day….hahahahaha I crack myself up just thinking about that.

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    He is not going to back down, he will just try to shift the blame.

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    Yarrow says:

    Michael Avenatti is doing good work.

    Here is a pic I just took at the McAllen airport of seven young boys of detained parents being transported out of the area by handlers via AA flt 5772 to DFW. Who knows where they are going from there. Sending children 1000 miles away from their parents is a disgrace. #Outraged pic.twitter.com/zrqdIFnsWY— Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) June 20, 2018

    This photo just got to me. Look at their identical clothes. Especially the shoes and sock–shoes with no laces, of course. Hoodies with the strings taken out. Might as well be prison uniforms. Wonder if this photo is from today’s flight? I thought American Airlines wasn’t going to fly these kids anymore.
    Edit: Yes, it’s from today. Wonder what American Airlines is going to do.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @schrodingers_cat: I think Trump is going to have to back down on this.

    Let him shift the blame. Worked real well, blaming Democrats for the border separations.

    Maybe it will get Gates and Buffett to join Michael Bloomberg in the no nonsense “fund their campaigns and vote for Democrats.”

    Who knows what Mark Cuban is planning?

    Trump is fucking poison for business (unless you’re in the Kidmo racket).

    Hat tip to NotMax for Kidmo.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    Ya know someone with more twitter followers than me should tweet that Trump doing this is akin to the volunteer firefighter torching random buildings so that he can run in and put out the flames to be proclaimed the hero. He torched the building, he doesn’t get to claim to be the hero for putting out the fucking fire.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I can’t find the link now, but Nazi asshole Stephen Miller used the same “speeding ticket” metaphor I did and said that people who get caught speeding with their kids in the car should have their kids taken away because the law is the law is the law.

    It makes me a little queasy to know I was channeling the way they think so closely. 🤢

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    WereBear says:

    @lamh36: If Melanoma had ANYTHING to do with Chump backing down, I’d bet it was something like “I’m leave you before Mueller gets ya” or “I’ll never do another photo op” or just “sure I’ll hold your hand in public”

    Even with those possibilities, I’m calling bullshit on he having ANYTHING to do with him backing down.

    And what does this say about tRump? That he needs women to remind him to not torture children and their parents? Admitting he won’t stop on his own? WHAT?

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    Yarrow says:

    @schrodingers_cat: It’s what con men do. Distract, blame others, point over there, double down, shout louder. It’s worked for him for so long and he knows nothing else. It won’t work this time. Not on this.

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    Calouste says:

    @Mnemosyne: If it is all above board, why would ICE feel the need to cover things up?

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    Tom says:

    @Mnemosyne: Somehow, “…confusing the fuck out of morons like Trump.” doesn’t seem like a very high bar to clear.

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    dmsilev says:

    If you’ve been fortunate enough to have been born in America, imagine for a moment if circumstance had placed you somewhere else. Imagine if you’d been born in a country where you grew up fearing for your life, and eventually the lives of your children. A place where you finally found yourself so desperate to flee persecution, violence, and suffering that you’d be willing to travel thousands of miles under cover of darkness, enduring dangerous conditions, propelled forward by that very human impulse to create for our kids a better life.
    That’s the reality for so many of the families whose plights we see and heart-rending cries we hear. And to watch those families broken apart in real time puts to us a very simple question: are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents’ arms, or are we a nation that values families, and works to keep them together? Do we look away, or do we choose to see something of ourselves and our children?
    But we have to do more than say “this isn’t who we are.” We have to prove it – through our policies, our laws, our actions, and our votes.

    Some guy you’ve probably heard of before

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    first they came for the potato salad and I said nothing, for it was mayo based and I prefer mustard based…

    Then they came for the coleslaw.

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    trollhattan says:

    Caught a lucky break and found a one-stop list of all his visual rhetoric articles. Probably dozens there I’ve never seen; my day just got moar productive!

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    Rommie says:

    When I read BC’s post the first time, my reaction was “They’ll just lock the kids and parents together in the same cage”

    At this point just pick the dumbest answer for anything these people do and you’ll have the odds with you.

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    jl says:

    @lamh36: Thanks for that good news. I was curious about Ojeda so checked his website. I don’t see anything ConservaDem about him. Seems about midway between HRC and BS in terms of domestic policy. I didn’t see any foreign policy stuff in his platform, but on domestic policy, could be described as ‘distinctly left of center’.

    I don’t see any hedging on defending Medicare and Social Security, aggressive on breaking hold of coal barons on WV economy and opening up WV energy industry to wind and solar, strong on defending and rebuilding PPACA.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @TenguPhule: Which was also mayo based….

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    trollhattan says:

    Does that dude sleep? Seems like he’s everywhere at once.

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    nonynony says:


    Well, well, what’s happening in WV?

    A lot of it is Dems fired up over what’s happening and Indeps getting off the fence to at least make protest votes.

    But some of it may also be related to the fact that the R in this race is a woman. That may be tamping down her Republican supporters.

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    @Steve in the ATL: I prefer my potato salad to be olive oil based.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Where is Baud?

    Miss him today.

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    Starfish says:

    @Elizabelle: Bloomberg is funding a person for governor in the Colorado Democratic party. That person has never seen a charter idea that he has not liked. The teacher’s union opposes the Bloomberg funded candidate. We have at least two better candidates.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @trollhattan: Thank you!

    Moar productive, indeed.

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    germy says:

    @Elizabelle: On the campaign trail.

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    eric says:

    @lamh36: United’s statement refers to the RECENT policy of separating families. An unnecessary, but welcome, addition to the statement. Interesting.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Starfish: Well then, let’s turn down every penny of Bloomberg’s filthy lucre, hmmm?

    Baby with the bathwater, Starfish. Eyes on the prize. Obama fell for Arne Duncan, regrettably, but that doesn’t mean I want him erased from the history books either.

    I believe you were also complaining that some white male Democrats — Kennedy and Beto O’Rourke — were out protesting at Tornillo on Father’s Day? Cuz that honor should go to … someone else?

    (BTW, I like your ‘nym.)

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    jl says:

    I don’t see news that anyone knows yet what is in Trump’s executive order, and don’t see a comment on this thread. I heard him babble nonsense about the issue on the news radio.

    I hope this is a sign that Trump folds almost automatically if he faces widespread popular opposition, or if he is forced to anything resembling work in order to implement his BS schemes and stunts. Maybe he can’t face the planned mass demonstrations against his kidnapping scheme, maybe just the press and political push back that he can’t control with his SOP PR stunts. Maybe just the fact that he couldn’t deal with even the minimal work required to hash out the details of the ransom note that he was going to hash out with the GOP Congressional caucus yesterday.

    Let’s see what happens. Hope it is a capitulation. Legally it could be, since the line that any law, from W or Obama (the Trumpsters said it was both yesterday, depending on what was most convenient at any given moment). forced him to do this is a bald face lie.

    I have had doubts that Trump would habitually fold and fall like a house of cards if he faced determined opposition. I hope he proves me wrong today. Would be good news for how to stop him from gutting DOJ and shutting down Mueller probe, etc.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @germy: Talking to ambitious raccoons, even as we speak.

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    ruemara says:

    @TaMara (HFG): I am not part of the problem. Dems are not part of the problem. Spencer & his wife and their party, are the fucking problem. Congrats on your awakening, Coxes. Go fuck yourself. You’re gonna really hate the rest of the news of what they’re doing to those kids. Your penance should be life long before I ever feel you lot shouldn’t go fuck yourself.

    They’re drugging the kids, you know, for compliance.

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    NotMax says:


    He mentioned (over the weekend?) that his presence here would be spotty for a short while.

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    jl says:

    @Elizabelle: Raccoons new plan to make the Baud 2020! campaign high energy and proactive. High stakes meeting.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @NotMax: I thought he was talking about his complexion.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @dmsilev: Interesting. The 20 days consent decree is why DHS is actively denying that this is a ‘policy’. I guess so long as it only happens as an exception they’re on okay legal ground, but once it’s instituted as a policy then they’re violating the agreement.

    These guys are doing the full Orwell.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @NotMax: He’s in Barcelona again!

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    @Omnes Omnibus: I saw your comment (IIRC it was a response to cain) on the late night thread, FWIW I agree with you and I am not a white male. Its exactly what the ruling party wants from us. Fear. We must not let them get into our heads. Its okay to be afraid but important not to give in to that fear.

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    NotMax says:

    @Omnes Omnibus

    He may be decompressing at Baud-a-lago.


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    Elizabelle says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Oooh — missed it cuz not here so much anymore. Now that you’ve mentioned it, plz link if you have a moment.

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    sukabi says:

    @Mnemosyne: really, color me skeptical. There are almost 12,000 kids that have been detained. Maybe 7,000 are still in Texas. The others have been moved to NY, Minnesota, Florida and parts unknown. That’s a lot of soccer teams of non English speaking children, some of which are toddlers, babies and small children.

    Further reporting on Shiloh in Texas here. It’s revolting.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Bigly win with that one.

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    Starfish says:

    @Elizabelle: My complaint is that civil rights and equity are big issues that are important to younger voters, and the leadership has not grasped that yet. The leadership is running white men who have military experience so the choices, in my area, are often “Do we choose the white BernieBro or the white dude with military experience pushed by party leadership to win those rural white votes?” It makes sense that they are doing this in a state that still has 80+% white voters, but it sucks.

    I was not saying that the Bloomberg money should be rejected but that sometimes Bloomberg priorities are not going to align with local priorities. The other Democratic candidates in this race are our current U.S. House member who is gay and wealthy and self-funding, a former state treasurer who said she is self-funding her children’s college fund and needs your donations, and the current lieutenant governor.

    The Bloomberg candidate seems to be neck and neck with the woman who is self-funding her children’s college education.

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    jl says:

    @dmsilev: Thanks for info. I thought I scanned the comments in this thread for news. I missed that one and I am a slob. I guess that explains Trump judge bashing yesterday. I guess Miller, Kelly, or somebody similar thought up the slimy scheme and told Trump what to say.

    So, not a capitulation, but another con. But still, sign that Trump runs from determined opposition and/or even minimal work at anything, even a GOP Congress ready and eager to help him run a huge and immoral dishonest con on the country.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @trollhattan: Skimmed one of the links.

    WOW! Gonna read through and savor that website. Looks phenomenal and well thought out. Thank you again.

    Peeps: the gift from trollhattan:

    Scott Eric Kaufman’s Visual Rhetoric Compendium (as of 7/09/13)
    link is http://acephalous.typepad.com/.....82011.html

    Believe SEK is much-missed (RIP) contributor to Lawyers, Guns and Money and probably some other stuff …

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    lamh36 says:

    Obama released a statement via FB:

    Barack Obama: “Are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents’ arms, or are we a nation that values families, and works to keep them together? Do we look away or do we choose to see something of ourselves and our children?” https://bit.ly/2lnpZTl

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    germy says:

    The NYT published stolen private emails from a presidential candidate during the middle of an election and they have the f***** audacity to self-censor because Trump thought it made him look bad 😡

    You should be ashamed and embarrassed

    @juliehdavis @mikiebarb https://t.co/MzQNVCOFAN— 𝙋𝙖𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙘𝙠 𝙆𝙖𝙧𝙡𝙨𝙨𝙤𝙣 ⚡️ (@Patrickesque) June 20, 2018

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    LAO says:

    I think this might be my favorite Pro-Trump spin so far:

    As I predicted Monday, once @POTUS got focused on the child separation issue he put an end to it. President @realDonaldTrump is a compassionate person. He was getting bad advice and info from his Chief of Staff, who started pushing this policy in March 2017 while at DHS. https://t.co/M4DDSJjSau— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) June 20, 2018

    So. Very. Stupid.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @sukabi: Yesterday was quite a contrast in media reactions to this story.

    Good on Maddow for demonstrating that there are limits to our ability to sanitize these acts for the sake of broadcast optics. Lewandowski just serves as evidence that there is no supreme being else he would have been smitten by thunderbolt in that moment.

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    NotMax says:


    ¡Hasta la vista, Baudy!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @LAO: He’s gonna need a new set of knee pads after that performance.

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    lamh36 says:

    CNN read the ENTIRE Statement from OBama….and calling it a cave…so ya know Chump ain’t gonna like that!

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    @🌷 Martin: He will be brought down by his own actions and deeds. His own karma. As sow, so shall you reap.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Starfish: It will be great for you to keep an eye on that race (and others) for us. Lucky you, being from Colorado.

    Agree that Bloomberg’s priorities don’t always align with what we might choose. But he was willing, this very day, to make the big splash announcement, with actual personal money behind it. It’s an enormous bat signal.

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    LAO says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Very true, but you’ve got to admire the knifing of kelly in addition to the sucking off of trump.

    E: cause i Can’t spell.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @LAO: Oooooh. The burn. Knives out for Kelly.

    Who has outlasted Mr. Scaramucci by a significant margin.

    I suspect Mnemo is right about, um, alliance of affection between COS and Homeland Security. Who’s gonna be the first Trumpster to go nuclear with that?

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    germy says:

    I have this sneaking suspicion Kristjen Nielsen went to that Mexican restaurant hoping for a confrontation she could use to play the victim afterward. Shades of Mike Pence attending Hamilton.
    — Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) June 20, 2018

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    NotMax says:


    The endgame of hubris is never, never pretty.

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    sukabi says:

    @Yarrow: in Avenatti’s timeline there is a very weasely AA statement asking the government to not transport separated children on it’s planes…they deny any knowledge that this has happened. It’s weasels all the way down.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I believe the flight attendants, because there are so many flights per day that individuals might not have realized what was going on since each of them probably only saw one group of kids in all of the flights they did that week.

    The corporate office knew exactly what was going on, though. 🤬

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    Lee says:

    As an 0311 those S&R people are real life angels.

    I hope she crushes her opponent but this being Texas I’m not optimistic

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    TriassicSands says:

    “…for my sister and me…”

    If I lived in her district, I would gladly vote for her, but only because she said “…for my sister and me…” in the video. If she’d said, “…for my sister and I…” there’s just no way I could have supported her. As it is, the best I can do for her is toss a few dollars her way. I hope she wins.

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    TenguPhule says:


    I don’t see news that anyone knows yet what is in Trump’s executive order, and don’t see a comment on this thread.

    Next thread down, Dood.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @Nicole: He says he’s voting Democrat to get the government sane again, and I for one welcome him.

    Sorry, but at time like these, we have to pull together and work with each other, even if someone has an imperfect history. This is literally life and death.

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    TenguPhule says:


    The endgame of hubris is never, never pretty.

    The beginning and middle won’t win any prizes for looks either.

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    Mnemosyne says:



    These assholes feed off self-pity and victimization. It’s how they keep themselves going. Emotional vampires, the lot of them.

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    eric says:

    @NotMax: if greek drama has taught us anything…

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    @schrodingers_cat: * missing a you, in the as you sow.

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    They did not learn from John Warner’s example (when he repudiated Oliver North).

    My fraternity brother! We had photos of him at alumni weekend with then-wife Elizabeth Taylor. Amazingly, he was less douchey than many of our alumni when he came back to campus.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @germy: yep. Who the fuck is who she is and goes out to eat in a Mexican restaurant after all that has gone done over the past week? Take out does deliver to hotel rooms.

    Totally staged Pence-style victim act. Talk about crisis actors.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Let’s see what happens. Hope it is a capitulation.

    Its not. Its Trump picking a fight with the courts in order to blame them when his order is ruled unlawful.

    Because Trump’s solution is to throw the children in jail with their families. Indefinitely.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    You guys will love this. Najib (he’s so famous now, I don’t have to explain who he is) offers some less than entirely plausible explanations for having all that cash and all them fancy handbags at home. I hate to break this to you, Datuk Seri, but it’s too late now to be starting a second career in comedic fantasy.

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    Ella in New Mexico says:

    @Elizabelle: I believe I heard the statement on MSNBC yesterday that Kelly looks at Neilson in a “father daughter” way…um, OK.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Let me be clear, I don’t have any actual knowledge. But the whole thing sets my spidey sense tingling. Especially the fact that they still take business trips together even though they now work in different departments. 🤔

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    jl says:

    @TenguPhule: Yes, I noticed the comment with the info after I posted mine.
    Trump is taking his con to the judiciary, where he’ll experience less public heat and can avoid anything resembling work or effort.

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    @Ella in New Mexico: Like his boss, amirite? Father-daughter doesn’t mean the same thing to the T-party that it does to us ordinary folk.

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    🌷 Martin says:


    The leadership is running white men who have military experience so the choices, in my area, are often “Do we choose the white BernieBro or the white dude with military experience pushed by party leadership to win those rural white votes?” It makes sense that they are doing this in a state that still has 80+% white voters, but it sucks.

    Do not underestimate how deeply rooted and pervasive notions of white patriarchy are. I try really hard to break from it, but I’ve been marinating in it for half a century and no matter how hard I try, I keep failing (in hopefully increasingly smaller ways). And while I can assert (with or without evidence) that I’m on the right side of this, if you ask me to predict how I think any given community will behave to a candidate or policy or whathaveyou, I’m going to assume the worst, and I suspect that’s pretty widely the case. And that assumption (which is mostly the byproduct of what voices get aired) becomes its own form of discrimination. The number of people that voted for Obama vastly exceeded the number of people that thought he could win, and that’s a real problem that carries real consequences when choosing candidates or anyone who will serve as the representative of a group.

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    ruemara says:

    @Ella in New Mexico: Considering this administration, that’s not comforting.

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    TenguPhule says:

    So what do we do? The left is obviously being baited into a fight. Yet that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight. Fucking hell, if traumatized kids doesn’t get you fighting, nothing will. So fuck it. Let the ads fall where they may. They’ll say we’re shitty criminal lovers no matter what. Sometimes a big enough fish can grab the bait, yank the fisherman right into the water, and devour him.

    Rudepundit is awesome.

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    Tom says:

    @Elizabelle: Shit, William Henry Harrison outlasted Scaramucci by a considerable margin, and he died after 32 days in office.

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    Chet Murthy says:

    Lordy, we live in the weirdest timeline: Michael Cohen quits Republican Party post — and condemns Trump over family separation in scathing letter:

    “As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching,” Cohen wrote. “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips.”

    Gob. smacked.

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    NotMax says:

    @Amir Khalid

    Coming soon to select theaters: Clueless in Kuala Lumpur.


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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    I believe I heard the statement on MSNBC yesterday that Kelly looks at Neilson in a “father daughter” way…um, OK.

    You mean like how Trump views Ivanka? 🤔

    I call BS. Kelly is fucking her.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Steve in the ATL: John Warner is good people. Occasionally does something to set one’s teeth on edge (endorsing Ed Gillespie in Virginia, yikes; that worked out, uh …), but we’d be safer with moar Republicans like him.

    I am thinking Bloomberg and Steve Schmidt and others may hope the SS Trump takes down the tea partyin’ evangelical wing. Will still leave the GOP depleted, but without the prion disease that’s apparent to everyone who is not a douche.

    Whoo — from the FTF NY Times story on Bloomberg’s planned $80 million funding of Democratic congressional campaigns:

    Calling Republican leaders in the House “absolutely feckless,” Mr. Bloomberg criticized them for failing to check Mr. Trump or to exercise rigorous oversight of his presidential administration.

    Feckless, you say?

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    efgoldman says:


    if greek drama has taught us anything…

    It taught us not to eat grape leaves

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    ruemara says:

    @efgoldman: Why, they’re delicious when stuffed.

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    lamh36 says:

    12m12 minutes ago
    Michael Cohen reportedly resigned from his RNC post and denounced the administration’s family separation policy: “While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips”


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    trollhattan says:

    Happy to share, not just because his work is indispensable but to keep his spirit alive. “Gone too soon” can’t be overstated and his loss is all our loss. Probably like most I discovered him through LGM and tried to never miss a post. His real-world misadventures were as valuable as his scholarly work. Add the ability to skewer political idiocy and I’m challenged to name his equal.

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    trollhattan says:

    So when she says “I’m going out for a chalupa” she’s really heading back to the office?

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    Calouste says:

    @Chet Murthy: Sounds like Cohen might have realized that loyalty is a one-way street for the shitgibbon, and that he’s staring at a circular red sign with a horizontal white stripes.

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    eric says:

    @efgoldman: and not to kill our daughters for good trade winds.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @ruemara: Agreed.

    efgoldman has to promise to send us his share of stuffed grape leaves. Yum.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    RM100 million in party funds just sitting in suitcases in the party leader’s house, instead of the party’s bank accounts. Millions worth of handbags gifted to his wife and daughter. In trying to come up with a cover story for embezzling government funds, Najib doesn’t seem to realise he has publicly confessed instead to embezzling party funds and taking bribes in kind. It’s as if, in a decade of stealing public funds with total impunity, he never got a chance to learn the survival skill of properly covering his tracks.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    He’s trying to, but he sucks at it.

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    WereBear says:

    Knowing what I know about the restaurant business… I don’t think any of them should as much as get a Domino’s pizza delivered, much less eat out ever again.

    Anthony Bourdain has some wild stories of what patrons got on their plates for far far less than what these fools are doing.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Come to that, it won’t be safe for them to hire a domestic cook either, will it?

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    Leto says:

    @Starfish: @🌷 Martin: Just something to add to this:

    Republicans have a millennial women problem: Nearly 70 percent of young women say they are leaning toward Democratic candidates in the midterms.

    If Democrats retake control of Congress in November, it will be in part due to their strength with young women.

    A new survey from the Pew Research Center finds young women — between the ages of 18 and 34 — far and away prefer the Democratic congressional candidate in their districts. Their preference for Democrats is significantly higher than that of women of other age groups.

    Women overall are likely to lean blue, with 54 percent supporting or leaning toward the Democratic candidate in their district this fall, versus 38 percent who favor the Republican candidate. But 68 percent of young women are choosing Democrats, compared to 24 percent who prefer Republicans.

    More graphics and info at the link. We’re seeing record numbers of women running for seats. If we can get them elected, and continue to engage with younger women and move them towards public service paths, then maybe we can break up the white male dominated leadership.

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    WaterGirl says:


    They’re drugging the kids, you know, for compliance.

    Every detail that comes out makes this sicker and sicker. You know there will be human trafficking stories related to these kids that will come out eventually. What a nightmare.

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    J R in WV says:


    Glad to see Richard Ojeda is doing well in the polling. I’ve been doing monthly contributions for some time now, and I plan to visit his HQ and volunteer to do whatever. He was running for a state Senate seat, was at a labor/dem picnic when a guy asked for a bumper sticker.

    Richard was putting the sticker on the guys truck when the guy knocked him cold with brass knuckles. He was nearly killed, but survived and won that election. Dirty politics played very hard. His attacker was sentenced to one to five years, the judge, “Duke” Bloom, recommended he serve the entire sentence.

    He rose from enlisted to Major in the Army, retired and came home. Probably a little conservative compared to me, but he’s honest, will support the working class, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc. A medical cannabis supporter, also. Won’t oppose recreational strongly I think. Very much Not a Republican, but right up the WV sweet spot. Looks good in his uniform photo.

    I only met Joe Manchin once, we couldn’t avoid shaking hands, but the fleeting eye contact indicated he felt about me as I felt about him. I can’t say much (anything) good about him, so I’ll stop there. Better than the Republican nominee, currently AG, from NY, a lobbiest for big pharma in DC, wife still is. Revolting.

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    TenguPhule says:


    and not to kill our daughters for good trade winds.

    And do not taunt the monster who has an angry god for a parent with your real name.

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