As a general rule, whenever you are required to hold an ad hoc press conference defending your administration’s elective policy of ripping toddlers away from their parents and then putting both child and parent in separate prisons, you can expect that things are not going to be received well and should probably plan on the event going rather poorly. But, if you are a Trump administration member, you can just say fuck it and go all in and just lie about everything.
I suppose I could go into every single lie told by Nielsen by her presser, but instead I’ll just let this headline at Splinter do the heavy lifting:
She basically lied about everything, but she smiled through a 1/4 inch of foundation and caked on mascara while doing it, so let’s just consider this her FOX news audition tape, because she should be unemployable for the rest of her life, the fucking ghoul, but she’ll no doubt have a job at Trump state tv.
dmsilev
“When Sarah Huckabee Sanders doesn’t think she’s up to the job of telling this set of lies…”
JPL
preach it brother!!
GregB
Use her married name contraction:
Kirstjen Nielsen-Himmler.
Baud
@dmsilev:
No shit.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
from a few days ago
dmsilev
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Bears repeating.
Aleta
Ivanka better not mention child care ever again.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Aleta: the Villagers owe Samantha Bee an apology
Platonailedit
@dmsilev: Indeed. Every hire of shitler is the worst.
JPL
I hate when I admire republicans, but Rep. Hurd is doing a heck of a job on CNN.
“Let’s not use children as deterrents, and let’s not separate parents from their children. “
schrodingers_cat
Why hasn’t John Kelly been asked about this policy, since it was his brainchild to begin with. He had floated it last year as the DHS secretary.
Roger Moore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The problem is that the people who elected her boss and put her in the position to do this are also monsters. As long as a substantial fraction of the country cheers these atrocities, she- and the rest of the Trump crime cartel- will never lack employment.
schrodingers_cat
I am sure MSM bots will yuck it up with her and give her an hour long special like they did with Bannon. Being a racist bigot is not a crime in their book.
Chet Murthy
@JPL: From Wikipedia:
Damn. He went undercover in Pakistan. He’s black. How did he pull -that- off? Man’s gotta have serious stones.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
He’s avoiding the reporters.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
Or they could one day be stripped naked and forced to march through the streets while being whipped from behind.
Platonailedit
@schrodingers_cat:
Yup, the racist fucker floated this horrid ‘policy’ publicly a year back.
Chet Murthy
@JPL: His district is 55% Hispanic. Probably has some effect on his actions. I mean, he’s black and that didn’t stop him from becoming a GrOPer, so I can’t ascribe it to morality or decency. And if he had a late attack of that, he’d have changed parties. I’m going with naked self-interest.
gene108
@Aleta:
It is sad how much potential progress was lost by Trump’s election.
Ivanka got promoted to be the champion of child care, because Hillary and Democrats has real plans to make daycare more affordable and Republicans wanted to blunt criticism they had no ideas.
But instead of fighting about the increasing the minimum wage, making daycare affordable, etc., we are trying to hold traitors accountable for colluding with Russia, keep kids from being used as hostages to halt immigration outright, etc.
We are being set back by a decade or more
Josie
@JPL: Rep. Hurd has done a good job for his constituents along the border and has worked well with Beto O’Rourke on projects. He is one of the few good ones left.
efgoldman
@JPL:
Yeah? Big fucking deal. What’s he DONE? Filed a bill? Signed on to Pelosi’s bill? Told Weasel Face to pound sand?
Fuckem
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Norm’s a friend and good people!
Platonailedit
@Chet Murthy: Yup. Yet another flake.
PaulWartenberg
dear American voters:
will you NOW fcking pay attention and PLEASE AVOID VOTING FOR ANY REPUBLICAN EVER AGAIN.
Patricia Kayden
@JPL: Words are great but what action is he willing to take to stop this atrocious policy? Congress could easily pass a law to prohibit the separation of migrant families.
Dorothy Winsor
The woman participated in torture. A war crime. Her current behavior doesn’t surprise me.
Roger Moore
@Chet Murthy:
Going undercover doesn’t necessarily mean pretending to be a native; it just means concealing who you’re working for.
eemom
Why do they all have to LOOK exactly like the fucking Nazis that they are? Isn’t anything left to the imagination anymore?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Best I’ve seen so far is somebody calling her Klaus Barbie Doll.
I was struck watching her today by how dead she looked inside. I wonder if she looks like that all the time or only when she has to go out and deal with this shit.
Platonailedit
Chet Murthy
@Roger Moore: Oh, right. Like Valerie Plame. Heh. I guess maybe not as radical as it seemed at first.
lamh36
They flew her lying azz in from NOLA just to come to the podium to tell a blatant bunch of LIES!
And now I see why it’s been storming in NOLA all day…didn’t realized KKKSessions was here.
JPL
@Chet Murthy: Let’s see how long it takes him to flip.. What I saw was a person torn by the practices of Trump. If he doesn’t then he is just a hypocrite like the rest of them.
lamh36
reposting cause this is just ridiculour
Poptartacus
Fucking evil cunt
Patricia Kayden
@PaulWartenberg: Sadly, a significant percentage of Republicans are probably fine with what’s happening at our Southern border. I’ve come across a few idiots on the internet and seen a Quinnipiac poll showing such support.
sukabi
One of these things is not like the others, and yet they all agree.
My favorite from the links:
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: He is lying like he always does.
Mart
@PaulWartenberg:
@Patricia Kayden:
They current administration is so beloved by my Republican friends, family, and co-workers as they have never seen anything like the hippy punching going on with this gang. The more libs cry, the better job they are doing. It is the only policy that matters.
52% of repubs think this is a good policy.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: There are no words to describe how disgusting this White House really is. They’re monsters. I don’t see how Republicans live this down.
JPL
@lamh36: Maybe they were fearful that if they showed him the cages, he would cheer.
sukabi
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: no shit. They can start by using the epithet in their reportage to describe these feckless c……
Patricia Kayden
@Platonailedit: Good for him. He’s the real deal.
Poptartacus
If dems don’t take back the house in November
It’s by any means necessary time
Dorothy Winsor
@lamh36: The man has five children. And yet he has no sense of what children in this situation must be experiencing.
efgoldman
@Mart:
Cleek’s law, immutable and eternal
sukabi
@Chet Murthy: embellished credentials? Needs to be asked, as it wouldn’t be the first time.
Yarrow
I saw a few minutes of Nielsen’s press conference. Wow is she awful. Smiling while she lies about children being taken from their parents and housed in cages. It was chilling to watch.
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I didn’t think she looked dead inside as much as she was trying to hide how much she enjoyed the suffering she was causing. Her gleeful cruelty was what chilled me to the bone.
lamh36
Matt McIrvin
Berniebro Twitter is reminding me that Obama built the child concentration camps and liberals are big hypocrites.
I’m beginning to think Berniebro Twitter might be useless.
lamh36
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
I saw at least one quote from Kelly supporting the policy last week but, as others have said, he seems to not be taking calls from reporters right now. ?
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: They are useful to Trump.
Omnes Omnibus
@Dorothy Winsor: Might you be mixing her up with Gina Haspel? They are both horrible, but in different ways.
schrodingers_cat
@Matt McIrvin: They are useful idiots for the Rs (Republicans and Russians)
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36:
lamh36
Even Andrea Mitchell is drawing a line in the sand about Chump:
Yarrow
@Matt McIrvin: If you’re only beginning to think that you haven’t been paying attention for the last two years. Also, “useless” is about the kindest possible way to describe them. I find them actively dangerous in that they demand their own version of what’s perfect (for them) and impede progress when it’s less than their desired perfection. They helped elect Trump and I do not forgive them that.
Platonailedit
File it under fwiw.
Guess it took kids for him to do this minuscule thing.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
He’s a showboater, but I don’t care because he’s bringing his show to the right places. ?
efgoldman
@Matt McIrvin:
Fucking worse than useless. Antithetical to accomplishing anything.
I’ve repeated many times: They don’t vote, they can’t be persuaded, they are no more useful to us than the flying monkey mouth breathers are.
Fuckem
JPL
@lamh36: Hopefully he can accomplish something, but after the Schneiderman fiasco, I’m not into putting faith into one individual. It’s going to take all of us to work to flip the house.
Poptartacus
No lifeboats for gop traitors
Baud
@efgoldman: Have I mentioned that I’m glad you are back?
Chet Murthy
@Platonailedit: That fucker Charlie Baker. I moved from MA in 07, but shit, if I lived there, anybody I knew who voted for that piece of SHIT would get an earful. Fucking GrOPer.
Platonailedit
@Matt McIrvin: Useful idiots.
James Powell
She will get a Wingnut Welfare post at some prestige university, maybe Harvard, maybe Stanford, and will be a regular on cable shows. She will continue to lie constantly, but that won’t stop any cable shows from having her on and giving her a few minutes of uncensored camera time.
The Ancient Randonneur
@sukabi:
The early morning tweetstorm from T is going to be epic!
Luthe
@Dorothy Winsor: He also avoided interacting with said children as much as possible until they reached adulthood.
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
This bullshit needs to stop.
All Republican demands to not film shit mean jackshit. Fuck their rules. Film and photo everything.
The Ancient Randonneur
@Platonailedit: He’s up for reelection.
Another Scott
This may have been posted earlier, but Doktor Zoom at Wonkette has a good list of groups to support to help the people and fight Trump’s policy:
Cheers,
Scott.
Dorothy Winsor
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re right. I did mix her up. I hate these people.
TenguPhule
@Poptartacus:
The conservative golden parachutes will now consist of real gold. And they will be ejected from the planes at 10,000 feet to try them out.
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
@Yarrow: And they will help him get re-elected too.
Gravenstone
@Matt McIrvin:
Yarrow
@Tilda Swintons Bald Cap: What we need is some kind of “How to identify propaganda” training like they’re doing in schools in Sweden. A lot of people fell for the Russian-backed propaganda. We’re not used to dealing with it. Not sure what kind of groups would be best to promote such a thing. We’re not going to see it in schools anytime soon, that’s for sure.
Poptartacus
If the blue wave gets smashed then what?
Work harder?
Fuck that
Better be ready to ante up
The Ancient Randonneur
@lamh36: Yes. The poor dear explains how uncomfortable her generation of reporters are fact checking and calling out blatant lies. But now, for the children’s sake, they may have to be a bit uncomfortable.
Roger Moore
@Mart:
As I like to point out, this is the really dangerous part of having a zero sum mentality. Not only do Republicans not believe in win-win situations, they don’t believe in lose-lose, either. They assume that if the liberals are unhappy, it must be because the Conservatives are winning. They don’t get that the liberals might be unhappy because they’re hurting everyone, so they’ll happily double down on destructive policies that hurt them worse than anyone because they assume that anything that upsets the liberals must be great for them.
Omnes Omnibus
@Poptartacus:
Work to see that it doesn’t
Mnemosyne
@Poptartacus:
Don’t freak out yet. Ted Cruz ain’t proposing a bill to stop this because he thinks he’s going to be easily re-elected. The Republicans are running scared, and we need to make them run faster.
Mary G
I hate to say it, but this is just one step in a series of things they plan to do (Politico)
They see this as a winning key to the midterms by ginning up the base, or some shit.
Roger Moore
@Patricia Kayden:
Republican voters are monsters, too.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mnemosyne: I saw at least one quote from Kelly supporting the policy last week but, as others have said, he seems to not be taking calls from reporters right now.
Oh, I suspect chatting off the record is still a big part of his day.
Footage of him proposing this from I think March of ’17, when he was DHS-Sec, is getting a lot of play, and of course there’s his infamous NPR interview of a few weeks back
not hearing a lot about the now that we’re seeing/hearing the “whatever”, probably cause there’s no video
p.a.
So, taking children from parents and putting them in
detentionconcentration camps, and lying 24/7 about it is a bridge too far for a few Rethugs.Nothing surprising there, I’m just waiting to see the long term reaction of non-Fox media. Not hopeful. Hope has been on a ventilator since 11/2016.
Gravenstone
@The Ancient Randonneur: Does she not remember Sam Donaldson being a rather loud and persistent burr in Pres. Reagan’s saddle? It’s not that hard Ms. Greenspan, just open up your mouth and ask a fucking question or two, and don’t take no for an answer.
raven
My Lil Bit is being treated better in the animal hospital as she awaits her surgery.
sukabi
@JPL: what he will accomplish is keeping the spotlight on this. Also, it appears that Mr. Avenatti fancies himself a dragonslayer, that it’s his calling, and the law and the media are his weapons. (Plus, it appears he despises Drumpf and this corrupt mess as much as the rest of us).
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Isn’t there some famous quote by a sportsball coach about how the winning team should always play like they’re 10 points behind?
Let’s do that.
B.B.A.
@Poptartacus: After the blue wave comes the black bloc.
rk
@Dorothy Winsor:
I doubt if he ever took care of his kids in any meaningful way. Did he play with them? Interact in any fatherly way? I’ve never heard any of his kids ever talk about his fatherly qualities. He lusts after Ivanka, doesn’t seem to like Tiffany or any of the boys. He’s had 5 kids, but I know some childless men who are more fatherly than Trump.
Poptartacus
Yeah I’m doing my part
But I’m about tired of these muthafuckers
November will tell the tale
One way or the other
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Still waiting?
Platonailedit
@Mary G: This is obviously a cynical strategy to gin up the base and it sure will. Dems of all policy hues need to move their asses in Nov to stop them.
Mnemosyne
@Mary G:
Or they see it as their last chance to hurt some innocent people before they get smacked down in November.
A cornered rat is a dangerous one.
Steve in the ATL
@Matt McIrvin: it’s not useless…if you are Russian
Platonailedit
@Gravenstone: I miss him. We need more donaldson types at the feckless wh press corpse.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@rk: he brags about never having been interested in his kids till they were adults, and the stories Ivana told in a recent book, that were intended to be humorous and endearing, could almost make me feel sorry for DJTJ. Well, almost is too strong, but it’s pretty clear they’re damaged goods.
Roger Moore
@Mary G:
Yep. They think only in terms of riling up the base and suppressing the Democratic vote. They think everyone’s mind is made up about who to vote for, and the only thing that changes is how many on each side vote. I’m hoping they’re going to discover there’s a bit more to it than that.
Yarrow
@raven: Was she not being treated well before? Glad she’s being treated well now. When is her surgery? Sending good thoughts.
debbie
@Platonailedit:
Glad he’s pulled Miller into his sights. Miller should hold the next press conference.
sukabi
@The Ancient Randonneur: I’m hoping for a massive aneurysm, brain or heart, I’m not picky.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Yea they needed to do a bunch of tests today. She has a heart condition so they have to be cautious with the anesthesia. She had another episode when they took her outside, it’s progressed to the point that her larynx just closes up in any heat and humidity. We visited for about 15 minutes and, of course, it tore my ass up. This is pretty straightforward surgery and she’s in a great hospital but old doggies sometimes don’t make it so it felt like it might be the last time I see her.
sukabi
@TenguPhule: they need to hear up with those spy cams.
raven
@Yarrow: Bad wording, I meant better than these kids.
Chet Murthy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Somebody months ago pointed to some reporting that the Large Adult Children (Tiffany excepted) all treat their relationship with Shitlord in purely instrumental terms — a means to the inheritance. Which makes what they’re all doing, in a way, even more despicable than Shitlord himself. He’s doing it b/c he’s evil and can’t help himself. They’re doing it for the money, pure and simple.
Yarrow
@raven: Oh, okay! I was worried she wasn’t being treated well. Sorry she’s having a rough time. Hopefully the surgery will help her and she’ll be better than she has been in awhile.
Roger Moore
@sukabi:
How could he have a massive anything with his heart or brain? They’re even smaller than his hands.
Mart
@Yarrow: These two do a nice job of explaining how the propaganda is done in Bannon’s propaganda film ‘Torchbearer’.
Brietbart.com/faith called it an Urgent Wake-Up Call for American Christians – so you know how full of shit it is.
lamh36
Platonailedit
@JPL: I will take this stormy lawyer guy over any we are outraged enough to do nothing about it rethug. Take your wins where you can.
Mary G
@raven: {{{Raven}}} So hard. She will let you know.
Villago Delenda Est
When this is all over, Faux Noise is going to be very empty place. All those crimes against humanity, you know.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mart: These people are not followers of The Carpenter. They follow Mammon and Moloch. They are abominations. They should be destroyed.
raven
@Yarrow: Nah, it’s the University Teaching Hospital. They have her in ICU and we get a couple of calls a day from student interns just to let us know she’s doing fine and then a couple of calls from staff vets to discuss what’s coming. It’s a self-supporting operation so this is going to be costly but it’s her only chance so we’re taking it.
Patricia Kayden
@Mart: Words Jesus never said: “Thou shalt hippie punch and tick off liberals”.
In any case, we have to move away from caring too much about Trump supporters because as he said, “I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters.”
They’re idiots.
sukabi
@sukabi: should have been gear up.
raven
@Mary G: We can’t let what happened to her Saturday night happen again. But, as much as I love her, it would be impossible to do more for her than we have. She’s a sweet sweet pup and 11 years ago things were really bleak for her.
efgoldman
@Poptartacus:
You gonna’ take your AR and go to the woods?
Big talker for an anonymous blog commenter. That’s what the RWNJs do.
MomSense
@raven:
Poor lil bit. I hope she pulls through this.
Patricia Kayden
@raven: So sorry to hear this news about LB. ((raven))
Platonailedit
Villago Delenda Est
@Matt McIrvin: Whataboutism. The hallmark of an FSB stooge.
Dorothy Winsor
@raven: I hope all goes well.
TenguPhule
@Villago Delenda Est:
Do you suppose there are enough skulls at Fox to build a hill with? Asking for a friend.
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
Of course he’s a showboater. He’s an attorney! ?
Poptartacus
@efgoldman:
When is enough enough..?
What the fuck do you propose?
A bake sale?
TenguPhule
@Platonailedit:
Problem is, a significant portion of the population has decided that “Evil” is cool.
Yarrow
@raven: That sounds about as good as you could want under the circumstances. Keep us posted. We’re all pulling for her.
TenguPhule
@Poptartacus: The first rule of the Rebel Alliance is that we do not talk about the Rebel Alliance to Restore the Republic.
debbie
@raven:
Hoping for the best for you all.
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Good thoughts.
Amir Khalid
@Yarrow:
I think raven’s point is not that his sick dog is being treated well, but that these kids who have been taken from their parents are being treated with cruelty.
raven
@Yarrow: Yep, plenty of people couldn’t even think about doing this. We know that.
Platonailedit
@TenguPhule:
1/3rd is not significant. If the 2/3rds do their job on the voting days.
Yarrow
@Mart: We really need people on the side of truth to do short lessons on how propaganda is used in the age of social media. It needs to become a topic for discussion. How are we being manipulated by Russian (and other) bots and trolls? How are they dividing us? How do we tell when it’s propaganda? How to combat it. Etc.
Steeplejack (phone)
@raven:
Well, she didn’t come here illegally. That we know of.
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est: No one should follow The Carpenters.
Yarrow
@Amir Khalid: Yes, he explained that later.
zhena gogolia
@Yarrow:
I think he meant she’s being treated better than the children are.
I’ve been thinking about Lil Bit and hoping for the best.
TenguPhule
Via Wapo.
Trump decides on the stupidest course of action. Film at 11.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: #notalllawyers
raven
@Amir Khalid: Actually it was but I did a poor job of saying that.
raven
@Steeplejack (phone): But she was abandoned. Dumped actually.
TenguPhule
Am I the only one who finds this wording ominous? Everywhere else in the first world, people are still attempting to treat their refugees humanely. I’m hearing showers, ovens and clouds of ash in Trump’s words.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: #seconded
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus:
Some of them, I am given to understand, are very good people.
Steve in the ATL
@TenguPhule: more likely farmers and laborers, but hell they could be rocket scientists and brain surgeons and lawyers too!
Steve in the ATL
@TenguPhule: #atinyhandfuloflawyers
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: That is a bit of an exaggeration.
Yarrow
@zhena gogolia: Again, he explained that later.
TenguPhule
Genocide through incompetence.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: #Iactuallymetoneonce.
Aleta
Trump did groundwork to make this acceptable during the campaign and during his campaign against the young NYers in the CP5 case.
Stepping stones: Ignoring due process. Abuse of other countries’ citizens by our military and its private contractors. Torture. Allowing police to kill POC and the mentally ill, in and out of jail. Calling prisoners enemy combatants to sidestep humane treatment. Privatizing prisons. Every time that POC are vilified.
TS (the original)
There is always another trump crisis to stop people talking about the last one. I don’t think taking children from their parents and locking them in cages is quite like the others. This one cannot go away until it is stopped.
raven
I just cruised over to Pat Lang’s Sic Semper Tyrannis. They FUCKING LOVE THIS SHIT.
Omnes Omnibus
@TS (the original): And many people are reacting just that way. This is big.
different-church-lady
@Roger Moore:
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING CORRECT ANSWER!!!
The Ancient Randonneur
Pelosi is now calling on Nielsen to resign
https://mobile.twitter.com/TeamPelosi/status/1008865165213827073
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: They are nuts.
TenguPhule
@Steve in the ATL:
You might have to join a union to stop the flood of cheap lawyers coming across the border, reducing your billings!
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: It’s the DEEP STATE, IT’S A LAW. . .
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule:
Impeachment.
lamh36
I really, REALLY need a break from this…so I’m watching anything else but more political news, and watching some of the MTV Movie/TV Awards….
And this happened:
Chadwick Boseman won for best Hero for Black Panther and her did this:
Chadiwick said we should honor real life heroes as well. So he called up James Shaw Jr and gave the award to him and thanked him for his real world heroism!!!
I needed this smile at a time like this!
ICYMI the video of Chadwick giving the his Best Hero award to James Shaw Jr
https://twitter.com/PhotosByBeanz/status/1008886218556395521
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Evidence
Shell
Maybe she fancies herself the next Ann Coulter who, god help me, insists all those crying children at the border are just acting.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
i thought that was the starting game.
Ending game was supposed to be Impalement. I understand a nice ruler once used it to discourage assholes from invading.
Omnes Omnibus
@TenguPhule: We have a guild.
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Comment or Pat?
TenguPhule
@raven:
The last time we tried, convicted and executed the fuckers who complied with these government policies.
Dorothy Winsor
@lamh36: That is smile worthy.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I take some small pleasure in the fact that they all hate each other so much
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: One of his front pagers Publius Tacitus, who is apparently Ex-CIA.
Mnemosyne
@debbie:
Not just any attorney — a trial attorney! ??
But if he brings some pro bono lawyers down there with him and puts them to work, I don’t care how big a show he puts on while he does it.
lamh36
TenguPhule
JFC. Nielson’s press shitshow was AFTER she prepped for it.
Mary G
@lamh36: Thanks, I needed that. The young people will win, as David Hogg keeps saying.
Shell
Cause, god knows, this administration has refused to do so.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: holy fucking shit that is crazy
scav
If taking children is such a nifty deterrent against criminal behavior both active and future, then I’m entirely 100% sure that the Grand Old Party of “Tough on Crime” “Law Enforcement Supporting” Blind Obedience to Govt as Directed by the LLLLLoooooooorrrrrrrddd Above! team will support grabbing and disappearing the children of all those arrested on suspicion of white collar crime. Fines seem to be pretty useless against speeders too.
Mike in DC
@raven:
They do, but they only represent about a quarter of the country, and about 50-60% of Republicans. It’s going to hurt them politically. I can’t even imagine what Trump’s numbers with Latinos are right now.
Gin & Tonic
@raven: The two guys I knew who were ex-CIA always denied being ex-CIA.
sukabi
@raven: Ex-CIA? isn’t that the “deep state”??
Think I know the reason he’s ex… He needs to avail himself of some mental health care….
It could also be that he’s a paid Drumpf troll…the propaganda ain’t gonna spread itself, and that spiel sounded like it was manufactured at the WH deep creep shop.
Jeffro
@TenguPhule: What exactly does he think is worse (‘so much else’) than “murderers and thieves”?
Drawn-and-Quartered devotees who also jaywalk?
Midnight baby-eating EXTREMELY dark tan people who also don’t obey their HOA’s covenants?
White House Press Corpse, just do your job and ask Trumpov or whomever gets behind the podium on any given day: “What. InTheHell, Exactly. Does This Motherfucker mean by ‘so much else’?” And then just mock the shit out of whatever Podium Scuzz says in response.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I am not ex-CIA.
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
Oh well then he’s totally trustworthy!
eric
@scav: perhaps Manafort’s adult children should be put in cages to “deter” future treasonous collaberation with an enemy. just spitballing ideas here
Steeplejack (phone)
@The Ancient Randonneur:
Kamala Harris also called for Nielsen’s resignation on Ari Melber’s show tonight.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s what a spy will say.
Jeffro
@The Ancient Randonneur: I think Kamala Harris got there first, but I’m late to the party here.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Of course not.
sukabi
@eric: don’t forget Flynn’s spawn.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: So would a non-spy.
@Gin & Tonic: Right then.
sukabi
@TenguPhule: well if her prep work included ambian and shots, that might explain it…
But I’m pretty sure she just dosed up with the tears and screams of babies.
Leeds man
Basket of
deplorablessociopaths.sukabi
@lamh36: well they didn’t cross the southern border…so they are seizing poc and stealing their children.
Jay
@raven:
While Pat Lang’s site was always right wingish, much of it went nucken futz during the election and afterwards, including a bunch of the Front Pagers.
The Ancient Randonneur
@Steeplejack (phone): @Jeffro:
I did see that. She released a statement earlier this afternoon.
I’m looking forward to an epic tweetstorm tomorrow morning from T. Pelosi and Harris calling for Nielsen to resign and HRC publicly denouncing these heinous internment camps for kids. Yowza.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
I love Chadwick Boseman, but in a “If I had a son, I would want him to be like that” kind of way. He seems very committed to using his fame and position to doing as much good as he can in both big and small ways. His parents must be very proud of him, and they should be. ?
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Sez you. I think Karen Carpenter had an amazing voice and remains a vastly underrated drummer.
Yeah, their material is a bit cheesy. Still rather listen to “Close to You” than *any* fucking thing the Eagles put out.
MB, feeling very grumpy and efg-ish “fuckem” tonight.
@lamh36: thank you for that. So glad you’re back, lamh, altho’ you’re probably wishing you were still in Oz!
Mnemosyne
@sukabi:
This is the abuser’s version of “fair”: See, I’m punishing your brother, too, so now you can’t say it’s unfair for me to punish you!
ETA: In an abuser’s mind, being equally vicious to everyone is being “fair.”
Patricia Kayden
@TenguPhule: Yes, this certainly looks like a winning strategy to have your administration splashed across the media as kidnappers and child abusers. Sure Jan. /s
sukabi
@lamh36: that’s not too far from Portland
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Superstar is their underrated song. I was waiting for pushback. :D
satby
@raven: Good luck to you all. You’re giving her the best care and chance, as you always have. She knows she’s deeply loved, and that’s everything to them.
Timurid
@Chet Murthy:
Google “Makrani.”
Steve in the ATL
@Miss Bianca: counterpoint: “seven bridges road”. Other than that? Yeah, unlistenable.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Desperado is a good album.
rikyrah
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I had read these tweets???
patrick ii
@dmsilev:
ButTermilk yelld at her so she had to do something!
kattails
@raven: coming in super late but if you get this, hang in there. We did surgery on my 17 y.o. kitty a couple of months ago; he has kidney and thyroid issues. They had to pull 10 teeth. He pulled through and is now eating fine, so much more comfortable. But I was in the same boat, not sure if I’d see him again. All the best.