How’s that swampy-drainy thing workin’ out fer ya?

Why does Scott Pruitt still have a job? (The Post)

Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt last year had a top aide help contact Republican donors who might offer his wife a job, eventually securing her a position at a conservative political group that has backed him for years, according to multiple individuals familiar with the matter.

The job hunt included Pruitt’s approaching wealthy party supporters and conservative figures with ties to the Trump administration. The individuals said he enlisted Samantha Dravis, then serving as associate administrator for the EPA’s Office of Policy, to line up work for his wife…

A spokesman for the Judicial Crisis Network confirmed Tuesday that it employed the onetime school nurse “temporarily as an independent contractor,” but it did not disclose via email how long she worked there or what she was paid. The spokesman said the position came about after the group received her résumé from Leonard Leo, executive vice president of the Federalist Society. The two organizations have financial ties.

Leo is a prominent Pruitt backer and longtime friend who was involved in arrangements for the administrator’s visit to Italy last year. Taxpayers spent more than $100,000 on the trip, which included private tours of the Vatican and meals at some of Rome’s finest restaurants.

Oh right — because Pruitt works for the most openly corrupt administration in the history of the United States, where simply everyone is in on the grift, from the president to his worthless spawn to his venal cabinet to his most inept hangers-on. And because Pruitt is succeeding in his mandate to reorient the agency he runs away from protecting the environment to protecting GOP-friendly corporations so they can pollute the ecosystem and endanger workers and citizens with impunity.

That’s why Pruitt still has a job.

In a way, we’re probably better off if Trump continues to stand by Pruitt. A replacement would likely be just as bad, and Pruitt is so openly dishonest, unscrupulous and grasping that he’ll make a great campaign talking point for Democrats at any level, nationwide.

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  1. 1
    LAO says:

    Since you used the tag “Trump Crime Cartel” it seems appropriate to note this:

    BREAKING: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York as his attorneys leave case, sources tell @ABC News. https://t.co/AHPYOLGt1Q pic.twitter.com/R0DjCZf2Tn— ABC News (@ABC) June 13, 2018

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @LAO: Wow. Bricks are being shat at the White House if true, most likely!

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    LAO says:

    @Betty Cracker: Agreed. I expect a torrent of unhinged tweets by nightfall.

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    MattF says:

    One theory I’ve seen is that since Pruitt has been confirmed by the Senate, he’d be a possible stand-by replacement for Sessions. Apparently, once you’ve been confirmed by the Senate for any job, you’re a legal repacement for any other Senate-confirmed position. Seems a bit far-fetched, though. I’d guess that the dumb explanation (Trump sees Pruitt as a kindred spirit) is the correct one.

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    chopper says:

    @LAO:

    as his attorneys leave case

    that’s just delicious. tho it means “my attorney’s got attorneys” no longer applies to the guy.

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    rikyrah says:

    HAS.NO.LEGAL.REPRESENTATION.

    BWA HA HA AH HA HA HA HA HA

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    germy says:

    Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard.

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    rikyrah says:

    it shouldn’t be called grifting anymore.

    Should be called Pruitting.

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    rikyrah says:

    @MattF:

    One theory I’ve seen is that since Pruitt has been confirmed by the Senate, he’d be a possible stand-by replacement for Sessions. Apparently, once you’ve been confirmed by the Senate for any job, you’re a legal repacement for any other Senate-confirmed position.

    I’ve heard this bullshyt theory.
    I wanna know..has any other President tried this?
    Just shifting people around without going through the confirmation process?

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    germy says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Bricks are being shat at the White House if true, most likely!

    This is an attack on our country and our way of life!

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    Kay says:

    The corruption is disgusting, but the nepotism is also gross.

    Several months ago, Donald Trump ordered the promotion of Rudy Giuliani’s son. But instead of getting promoted, he has lost his West Wing pass.
    Details: Trump ordered junior White House staffer Andrew Giuliani’s promotion after dining at Mar-a-Lago with Rudy Giuliani, who subsequently became the president’s lawyer. He directed his body man, Jordan Karem, to ensure Kelly promoted Andrew to special assistant to the president, according to sources familiar with the conversation.

    How many are there? I imagine this whole group of otherwise unemployable adult “children” strutting around, acting like they’re working.

    The Trumpsters are gonna regret splitting up families. We won’t keep them together when they all go to prison. We need a deterrent to white collar crime.

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    JGabriel says:

    Betty Cracker @ Top:

    Why does Scott Pruitt still have a job? … Oh right — because Pruitt works for the most openly corrupt administration in the history of the United States, where simply everyone is in on the grift, from the president to his worthless spawn to his venal cabinet to his most inept hangers-on.

    Also, in case Traitor Trump decides he wants to install Pruitt as AG without without going through a Senate confirmation.

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    rikyrah says:

    Breaking News: Robert Mueller requesting 75 blank subpoenas in the Paul Manafort case.https://t.co/adVbCqgZR7

    — 3ChicsPolitico (@3ChicsPolitico) June 13, 2018

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    How’s that swampy-drainy thing workin’ out fer ya?

    ‘Drain the swamp’ was always a metaphor for ethnic cleansing. I have heard Republicans use it that way in a ‘get all colored people out of the US’ sense, but for most I believe they mean it on a governmental level. I grew up with this omnipresent, unquestioned myth that the US government is infested and bought off by ‘special interest groups’ that somehow were bribing legislators and the executive branch to give free stuff to minorities. Rich people corruption is way, way down the list of Trump voter concerns. He is removing the corruption he promised to remove, by making the executive branch an abuser of the weak instead of a protector.

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    LAO says:

    @rikyrah: That’s not a lot of subpoenas/witnesses in a large, complex federal white collar prosecution.

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    Chyron HR says:

    Meanwhile, in the Oval Office:

    Stephen Miller: It’s just like I told you, Mr. Trump, “With Jews, you lose!”
    Jared Kushner: He did tell you that, dad, he did!
    Stephen Miller: Zip it, hymie, the master race is talking here.

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    germy says:

    In a new court filing, Mueller's team claims that discovery in their Russia case could reveal Russian players who "are continuing to engage in interference operations like those charged in the present indictment." https://t.co/lctKxjd1zV
    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 12, 2018

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    Kay says:

    The Trump Administration is so corrupt I think there’s a real possibility that they CAN’T fire these people. They know too much.

    That’s why we get that sniping at Sessions and no action. They’re blackmailing one another, trapped, bound together, that’s why they’re all so miserable and mean-spirited.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Kay: The nepotism thing apparently cascades down to the cabinet and West Wing employee level too, with otherwise unemployable relatives being placed with wingnut think tanks, donor corporations, state-level GOP organizations, etc.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    OT: I didn’t make a Ron Johnson staffer cry, but I did make him stammer and say he just worked for the office when I asked how he could work for someone who support separating kids from families at the border putting them in camps just like Nazis. Baby steps.

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    LAO says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Shoot higher — he should cry.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Kay:

    That’s why we get that sniping at Sessions and no action.

    The KKKeebler Elf is up to his eyeballs in ALL OF IT.
    He will NEVER quit.
    And, can only be fired.
    But, yes, he knows IT ALL.

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    @Kay:Bingo. There was another one of those leaked stories about Kelly, how miserable and unhappy he is being in the WH. \

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @LAO: is it normal for lawyers to quit if a client flips? Or is that a sign they disagreed with their client? Or they’re all so goofy and corrupt who the fuck knows?

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    scav says:

    @germy: We may soon be learning how the very founding fathers of this nation were part of the deep state, putting in long-term defenses for Obama and Hillary.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Yup. It’s a whole mythos. Conservatives think of THE GOVERNMENT as being run by corrupt and/or incompetent time-servers who get a coalition of the black, the brown, and the lazy to vote for enough like-minded politicians to keep the machine running without asking too many questions, and that this happens somewhere between The Big City and The State Capital. It’s sort of a permanent Kafkaesque dystopia combining (black/brown/lazy) road crews leaning on shovels, surly (black/brown/lazy) people at the window at the DMV, and occasionally something more diabolical like what they thought Shirley Sherrod was admitting to. And that’s “the swamp,” and that’s how it’s connected to race. And, relatedly, when they talk about running the government “like a business” they mean “firing everyone.”

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    eclare says:

    @Kay: Interesting theory….sounds plausible to me!

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    Immanentize says:

    @LAO: When lawyers leave that means usually one of two things — there was some big disagreement about strategy like something rather untoward occurred against attorneys advice OR the attorneys were not really working for the client, but for other interests. I saw the latter a lot in low-level cartel dealers who had big fancy attorneys, then they did not (and they got me). Of course, it is not really a binary thing, is it? What’s your take, LAO?

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    sdhays says:

    @MattF: I looked this up when it was floated a few months ago. The Constitution is pretty clear on this that you have to be confirmed for the particular position you’re nominated for. Pompeo had to be reconfirmed as Secretary of State even though he’d been confirmed as CIA Director.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    OT: I didn’t make a Ron Johnson staffer cry, but I did make him stammer and say he just worked for the office when I ask how he could work for someone who support separating kids from families at the border putting them in camps just like Nazis. Baby steps.

    Good for you. Everyone who lives in a GOP Congressman/Senator’s district, should be calling them up.

    I’ve said before…it’s the simplicity of this evil that just cuts through all the bullshyt.
    Just call them up and ask for the Congressman/Senator’s stance on ripping children from their parents, housing them in cages, and now in camps.
    Please explain to me the Congressman’s pro-life, pro-family stance with regards to this evil. And, yes, we need to call it EVIL.

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    Can we have a thread about yesterday’s elections? Besides Sanford losing and Ds picking up a legislature seat in Wisconsin, what other important things happened.

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    LAO says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m sure this is about $$$$$. Not enough of it. Hiss lawyer told the Court the other day that they had 15 lawyers working round the clock:

    15 attorneys, at these firms, working "around the clock" (let's be conservative and say 14 hours a day), even if mostly young associates, is likely burning over $100,000 a day. A DAY.https://t.co/CqngHbfeNX— NarrowlyDecidedHat (@Popehat) June 13, 2018

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Kay:

    that’s why they’re all so miserable and mean-spirited.

    I think they came to town that way. May have been _born_ that way.

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    sdhays says:

    @Immanentize: The lawyers were all being paid by the RNC, as I recall, so they definitely working for Michael Cohen.

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    LAO says:

    @Immanentize: I agree with you that who actually hires the attorney is a key question and strategy issues do arise but I think this is a money thing. The privilege check is eating a lot of time and money, I don’t think Cohen has the resources to defend this case.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @LAO: interesting– one of details that’s kind of been lost in the flood is that this man doing multi-million dollar cash deals had to borrow $130K to pay off stormy, and apparently that was a heavy debt load for him according to the gossip from trump world
    ETA: was it Cohen who literally bought his way into trump-world by making a showy multi-unit purchase in the tower? or am I thinking of one of the other skeevy hangers-on who have become household names, at least in the blogosphere

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    Immanentize says:

    @LAO: Lawyers used to come to Court and tell judges that they had to withdraw because the critical witness “Mr. Green” failed to appear….

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    The Dangerman says:

    @Kay:

    The Trump Administration is so corrupt…

    How corrupt are they?

    /Match Game

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    LAO says:

    @sdhays: Only a portion of the fee — I expect this will not continue.

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    Immanentize says:

    @sdhays: Is Cohen still a fundraising officer at the RNC? I have wondered if that was just a way of keeping some of his dealings hidden.

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    trollhattan says:

    @MattF: @rikyrah:
    See Chait for more.

    Technically possible. Probable? With this outfit there’s no telling.

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    LAO says:

    @Immanentize: When I was a very young associate, I was sent to federal court to handle a status conference. The Judge (The Honorable David G. Trager, now deceased) asked me if I was in court that day, rather than the partner, because “there was a problem with Mr. Green.” I had no clue what the Judge was talking about and quite frankly had no idea how to respond. My former boss still laughs about it occasionally.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    NarrowlyDecidedHat @ Popehat
    A word of advice to all you right-hand men and lieutenants and underlings out there, based on 24 years of federal criminal law experience:

    Mr. Big never winds up paying the defense bills. Plan accordingly.

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    LAO says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m honestly not sure because so many of the skeezy bastards did that.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I always thought that was weird too — that he had to take out a home equity loan to raise $130K. You’d think a shady-ass character like Cohen would have money stashed offshore. But then again, he doesn’t seem very bright.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    MJS says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: “I just work for the office” is apparently the new “I was just following orders.”

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    sdhays says:

    @Immanentize: Good question. I remember being surprised that he hadn’t left that position after the raids came down, but I expect he won’t be there much longer if he hasn’t quietly resigned/been booted already.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @MJS: Yep.

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    Jeffro says:

    @The Dangerman: See? I knew if I actually read through the thread, someone else was gonna say it before me! =)

    The Trump Administration is so corrupt…

    – they can’t even get LAWYERS to work for them
    – pond scum just moved three steps up the food chain
    – they have shell corporations set up for their kids’ free and reduced lunch accounts at school
    – they made a hero out of a porn star AND her lawyer(!)
    – we actually WANT Trumpov to golf as much as possible

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Betty Cracker: I don’t know anything about this lifestyle, but a lot of people smarter than him have managed to leverage themselves into bankruptcy in spite of a massive cashflow they think will never end

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    rikyrah says:

    Guess we can get ready for another Birth of a Nation campaign down in Virginia against Tim Kaine.

    UH HUH
    UH HUH

    In Virginia, Corey Stewart, a Trump-supporting immigration hardliner who campaigned on keeping up Confederate monuments, narrowly won the GOP U.S. Senate primary, and will go up against incumbent Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine this fall.

    With 100 percent of Virginia precincts in, Stewart, the chairman of the Prince William County Board of Supervisors, had 44.9 percent of the vote, compared to state Delegate Nick Freitas, a former Green Beret who’d received backing from a key conservative group, with 43.1 percent.

    Stewart’s victory could be a gift for Kaine in blue-leaning Virginia, where a Republican hasn’t won a statewide race since 2009. Stewart campaigned as an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment and even revived false “birther” allegations that President Barack Obama wasn’t born in the U.S.

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    catclub says:

    @rikyrah:

    Just shifting people around without going through the confirmation process?

    makes no sense, is a Judge who was confirmed for the lowest level by the Senate suddenly eligible to be appointed to the Supreme Court?

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    rikyrah says:

    it’s up to 150!!

    BREAKING: Robert Mueller files request for 150 blank subpoenas in Paul Manafort case. This doesn’t end well for Trump or any of his associates. With Cohen flipping, if Manafort flips, it’s ballgame. Trump would absolutely have to resign. Tick to the tock. https://t.co/ZusAJgE6ui

    — Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 13, 2018

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    randy khan says:

    @sdhays:

    There’s a statutory provision that allows anyone who’s been confirmed by the Senate to serve as the acting whatever in another confirmable position for a limited period of time.

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    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    After the way he was treated by his father as a kid, I’m surprised Andrew would even be in the same state as Rudi, let alone sharing any political associations.

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    randy khan says:

    @rikyrah:

    I see these stories, and kind of agree, but all three of the Republican candidates for Senate had, uh, issues, so I’m not sure Stewart is any more of a gift to Kaine than the others would have been.

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    gvg says:

    @sdhays: RNC does not equal Cohen and if he is going to flip, i think that would put him at odds with the RNC so the lawyers would have to leave…i think. although I also think it’s problematic for the RNC to be paying for Trumps personal lawyer. I wonder if it’s a problem if his best bet is to flip but it’s against the RNC’s interest, would the lawyer still give him that info?

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    sdhays says:

    @Betty Cracker: I just assumed that he didn’t want to use his illegal stash, which is most of his money. And now, with the US Dept. of Justice watching his every move, he doesn’t dare try to access it. But he could be like Paul Manafort and spend way beyond his means even with all that cash sloshing through his laundry.

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    debbie says:

    @Chyron HR:

    No response from Jared, pointing out that Miller is also a Jew?

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    scav says:

    Still works when rephrased into the non-physical blade setting.

    But in these cases
    We still have judgment here, that we but teach
    Bloody instructions, which, being taught, return
    To plague th’ inventor. This even-handed justice
    Commends th’ ingredience of our poisoned chalice
    To our own lips.

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    Yarrow says:

    @LAO: Tick tock, motherfuckers!

    I’m back. Not that anyone noticed I was gone.

    @Kay:

    We need a deterrent to white collar crime.

    Yes we do.

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    sdhays says:

    @randy khan: Interesting. I hadn’t seen that.

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    debbie says:

    @LAO:

    Nah, he should quit!

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @The Dangerman: “The Trump Administration is SO corrupt they’ve started stashing bribes in their BLANK.”

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    catclub says:

    @Immanentize:

    Is Cohen still a fundraising officer at the RNC?

    Weren’t Broidy and Cohen co-chairs of finance committee? Have either one been dropped?

    ETA: I looked it up, deputy finance chairs. No evidence they have been dropped from committee. The chair was Steve Wynn, he has been dropped.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Mr. Big never winds up paying the defense bills. Plan accordingly.

    NO LIE TOLD

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    rikyrah says:

    “Healthcare is a right. Healthcare is a right. HEALTHCARE. IS. A. RIGHT. You cannot access the American dream without access to healthcare. When people are denied healthcare, people die. And mental and physical health are the same. Thing.” @SenBooker at #WeThePeople18 pic.twitter.com/8ZxGuH0nyc

    — Indivisible Guide (@IndivisibleTeam) June 13, 2018

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    randy khan says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Running out of money is a definite possibility for a decision to cooperate and changing lawyers. (And you need fewer lawyers if you’re cooperating, since you won’t need to have people look at every document to contest whether they should be given to the government.)

    Another possibility beyond the ones mentioned above, although that seems unlikely in this case, is that you hired lawyers who are skilled at burn-things-to-the-ground defense, but not to the kinds of negotiations needed to plead.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Kay:

    The Trump Administration is so corrupt I think there’s a real possibility that they CAN’T fire these people. They know too much.

    That’s why we get that sniping at Sessions and no action. They’re blackmailing one another, trapped, bound together, that’s why they’re all so miserable and mean-spirited.

    Yes. I’ve been saying this for the last year or more. Sessions knows most everything and Trump can’t fire him. It’s kind of hilarious to watch, except for the whole country burning thing.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Immanentize:
    @LAO:

    IANAL and I don’t understand the “Mr Green” reference. Having to explain humor is tedious, I know, but I’d enjoy being able to get the joke.

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    chopper says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    i’m sure right now trump is trying desperately to figure out how to pay for a new team of attorneys for cohen out of campaign funds. “i know a guy who can get that done! get cohen on the phone!”

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    The Dangerman says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    The Trump Administration is SO corrupt they’ve started stashing bribes in their BLANK.

    Richard Dawson would kill with that one then kiss the contestant.

    ETA: Oops, wrong show. Though Family Feud may be appropriate if Cohen has dirt on Jarvanka.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: As in the color of money?

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist & @sdhays: Good points.

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    chopper says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    a reference to money, i assume.

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    Immanentize says:

    Mr. Big never winds up paying the defense bills.

    In the Medellin Cartel cases, Mr. At Least Bigger would often pay defense costs. It was surprising to us as public defenders, for sure. And we certainly got our share of the street level folks in State court. But when Pablo Escobar was finally raided after he left his private prison, they found most of the transcripts of the hearings of everyone in the cartel down to some of the smallest players. Those transcripts included the testimony — and identity — of most of the undercover agents and police officers in the Metro Dade area, state and fed, and beyond. Escobar was wicked smaht.

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    @Yarrow:Sessions was one of T’s early backers. Most of the anti-immigrant policies of this government come from his former aide Steve Miller.

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    @Immanentize: The code in our part of the world was “your honor the client has not complied with rule number one” (Rule Number One: Pay your Lawyer).

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    LAO says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Mr Green — Money. (A reference to Mr. Green meant lawyer wasn’t getting paid). Sorry.

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @The Dangerman: Charles Nelson Reilly could have some fun with it.

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    debbie says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    That could prove to be a very depressing thread. I heard a report on NPR about Maine’s reaction following the ranked-choice voting system:

    During the runup to Tuesday’s election, there was a lot speculation about whether the actual process of ranked-choice voting would confuse voters and prompt them to vote no on Question 1.

    But Patricia Darling-Pena, also of Bangor, said the ballot was intuitive.

    “I think it’s remarkably easy,” she said. “I think a leaflet in the mail could easily explain it for everyone,” she said.

    Tae Chong, a voter in Portland, dissed the ominous buildup to the ranked-choice debut.

    “If people can get American Idol, how can you not get this? Gimmee a break,” Chong said.

    Great. American Idol runs the country.

    Driving home from the dentist just now, I listened to Glenn Beck for a bit (I like to know what the enemy is up to). He was comparing Trump’s NK efforts to Reagan’s USSR efforts, and he thinks Trump is operating as if he were playing Obama’s 11-dimensional chess. Click.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @germy:

    Cohen, now with no legal representation

    Um, wow, I guess. But isn’t he actually admitted to the NY Bar? Is it still pro se if you are actually a licensed attorney?

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    chopper says:

    @rikyrah:

    it’s likely still 75 individual subpoenas. they file two copies of each one from what i remember.

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    LAO says:

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I love that and wish to adopt it here.

    @Immanentize: I agree. Was involved in a number of cases where the head of an organization paid the legal fees (at least according to their complaints on later wiretaps.).

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Yarrow: I’ve seen Session’s non-firing linked to Grassley’s threat not to confirm a replacement, but your theory makes a lot more sense. Trump hasn’t been constrained by the GOP congress’s opinion on anything, and Grassley would cave like a hollow gourd anyway.

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    LAO says:

    @chopper: You are correct — 75 witnesses. Not a huge number in white collar case.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @debbie:

    Mr. Jared, he not a bright boy.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Ah, thanks. Slow this morning.

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    @debbie: Not all news out of yesterday was bad. In my opinion, anything better than speculation based on one’s worst fears.

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    Immanentize says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: The color of cash. It was a code private attorneys used to explain they were not being paid…. In San Antonio, we had an informal club of defense attorneys that would have a lunch or dinner once a year. Mostly an excuse to tell tales and drink. There were various awards they had made up and I made up the Easy Rider “We ate their food, Man” award for the best tale of getting stiffed by a client. One year’s winner went like this: the attorney was representing a twenty-something working class guy on a DUI and gun possession charge (they often went together). The guy worked construction and the lawyer kinda felt sorry for him, so he kept asking for pay and the client always had a sad sack tale about how his ship was just about to come in. Besides the retainer, the lawyer had,’t received anything. Pre-trial motions, the gun is suppressed — nothing. Trial, nothing. So the attorney wins the DUI case at trial! Not guilty! So, the client says, look, let me buy you a drink, I have your money and they went off to the bar near the courthouse and both got a beer. The client is so happy and he toasts the attorney and he gets up and says I’m going to the truck to get the check for the payment. He leaves and drives off. Also leaving the lawyer with the bar tab.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @LAO:

    Got it. Thanks!

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    MJS says:

    Since I am ever the pessimist, could this just be a delaying tactic on Cohen’s part, since Friday is the deadline for his attorneys’ review of documents for privilege?

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    @Betty Cracker: After Sessions, Grassley has been the most consistent anti-immigrant senator since the days of W if not before. Sessions is carrying out the agenda dear to Grassley’s heart. Grassley’s aide Cissna currently heads the USCIS. That’s another reason why G doesn’t want S fired.

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    Yarrow says:

    @schrodingers_cat: @Betty Cracker: Sessions is in bed with Russia. Publicly we know he lied and lied again in his confirmation hearing about his contacts with Russia. Mueller knows it all and owns Sessions. Trump would be obviously obstructing justice if he fires Sessions and then Sessions could publicly flip on Trump to save himself as much as he can. Trump is truly fucked but it just hasn’t all come out yet. Funny to watch but terrible for the country as Sessions destroys things and hurts and kills people while we wait.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Immanentize:

    LOL, great story! Thanks for the info and the anecdote.

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    chopper says:

    @MJS:

    cohen’s attorneys aren’t gone yet, and i doubt the judge will push off the deadline for document review just because he says ‘i’ll cooperate’.

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    D58826 says:

    In a way, we’re probably better off if Trump continues to stand by Pruitt. A replacement would likely be just as bad, and Pruitt is so openly dishonest, unscrupulous and grasping that he’ll make a great campaign talking point for Democrats at any level, nationwide.

    And so blatantly obvious about his corruption and incompetence. A replacement might be batter at hiding what he is doing

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    debbie says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I would like to hear about Dem results. Here, all the talk is of the GOP and their new predicament, ie, the Trumpsters’ wins over the “moderates.” This is very good news. The nuttier, the quicker the GOP’s demise.

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    Mike in DC says:

    We’re nearing the turning point. It will probably hinge on the election. A Dem Congress plus solid charges against Trump = removal/resignation. If the Senate GOP balks, let them know it will be a political death march for most of them.

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    trollhattan says:

    Just heard Trump wants to change HHS to another name. My guess: Welfare, Moochers and Illegals. (comma optional)

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    trollhattan says:

    @Immanentize:
    Which senator is this today?

    Classic story. I’ve known that guy. We’ve all known that guy. Last remodel project one of the dudes stole a crapton of sporting goods gear from me, something I didn’t figure out until they were gone and the chaos settled.

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    LAO says:

    I think the WSJ has a better take on Cohen:

    NEW –> WSJ matches ABC but says "Mr. Cohen hasn’t yet decided whether he will cooperate with prosecutors in the case, according to one of those people."https://t.co/JV1FEuTXvN— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) June 13, 2018

    It makes more sense to me that Cohen has not decided whether or not to cooperate yet.

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    @debbie: Same here. Everywhere you see all the news is about Rs and T and his supporters. Its as if those who oppose him don’t exist. We complain about it but most lefty blogs and the comments therein are a reflection of the same premise.

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    Ruviana says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: They use a different code now but in hospitals when they paged “Dr. Firestone to Room whatever” meant there was a fire there that needed putting out. This way it didn’t panic people who heard it. I suspect the “color” of that “witness’s” name in this case is the tell.

    ETA: As others have said, but I like my little story so I’m leaving it.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @LAO: Such good news that I could burst!! For his attorneys to desert him like that, they must believe him to be guilty as hell. Couldn’t happen to a nicer jerk.

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    Jeffro says:

    @debbie:

    Here, all the talk is of the GOP and their new predicament, ie, the Trumpsters’ wins over the “moderates.” This is very good news. The nuttier, the quicker the GOP’s demise.

    The Post has a couple of good takes up about the ‘rise of white-supremacist candidate Corey Stewart in VA’ (vs Tim Kaine)

    Stewart is no Lyin’ Ed Gillespie, while Kaine is about as equally loved in quite-blue VA as Ralph Northam is…Northam, y’all will remember, beat Gillespie by 9 points.

    Keep talkin’ that crazy talk, Corey Stewart! It’s your party now, yours and Trumpovs! Meanwhile, here’s what one #NeverStewart Republican had to say:

    Stewart prevailed last night in the Virginia GOP Senate primary by a slim margin over a former Green Beret who had the backing of the party establishment. Some Republicans immediately expressed dismay. Bill Bolling, the former lieutenant governor of Virginia, tweeted: “This is clearly not the Republican Party I once knew, loved and proudly served. Every time I think things can’t get worse they do, and there is no end in sight.”

    Good times!

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    I’ve dealt with Cleta Mitchell years ago – she’s dumb as a fucking stump. No wonder Pruitt hired her. 😂😄🤣

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    Immanentize says:

    One way to read Cohen’s attorneys is that they really just came on board for the document challenges. And Cohen (or whomsoever) was charged through that phase. June 15 is the deadline set by the judge for final document privilege review. That is, Friday.

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    Yarrow says:

    @schrodingers_cat: In David Anderson’s morning thread there was this comment from Nora:

    Thanks for posting this. I went and commented.

    Maybe we could have more action items like this?

    I agree. I’ve said a few times that I’d like to have a daily, or at least several times a week, action item thread. Something to help people do one thing every day–call their reps about an issue. Many of us know we’re supposed to be contacting our reps on a regular basis but are busy and aren’t sure what the best issues are at the moment. A reminder to “call your reps about this issue today” could help with focus and also to spur people on to act.

    Another bonus of that sort of thread is that it can alleviate your sense of helplessness when you take action. It’s easy to get down when the news is so horrible. But we can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We can get involved. Calling our reps is a small thing that makes our voices heard. It matters. And when you do it you can feel good that you’ve done something more than just complain.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Speaking of shitting bricks, did you know that wombats shit blocks?

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    debbie says:

    @Immanentize:

    Would you put it past him to be his own attorney?

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    Litlebritdifrnt says:

    @MJS: That crossed my mind too, a lot of times clients who are just trying to delay their obvious eventual conviction will just keep firing their lawyers and hiring a new one which gives the new one the opportunity to go into court and beg the judge for yet another continuance because the new lawyer has to “get up to speed” and has “only just received the discovery in this matter from previous counsel” and they have to have time to go through it. It works for a while but eventually the State and the Judges get wise to what the defendant is up to and refuse to continue the case. If that happens the latest attorney withdraws and the client now pro se begs the court for a continuance to obtain new counsel. I have seen this lots of times.

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    Immanentize says:

    @debbie: yes I would. And I think he knows it.

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    Nazi Times is calling DACA recipients, migrant youths.

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    LAO says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    or his attorneys to desert him like that, they must believe him to be guilty as hell.

    As awful as I’m going to sound — we, criminal defense attorneys, don’t care.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Nuh-uh! Seriously? (Off to Google “do wombats shit blocks”…)

    ETA: OMFG, it’s true!

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    JPL says:

    @LAO: Cohen might have put the story out, in order to put Trump on notice.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @Immanentize:

    The time-honored reason given from thousands of withdrawals.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Yarrow:

    But we can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We can get involved. Calling our reps is a small thing that makes our voices heard. It matters. And when you do it you can feel good that you’ve done something more than just complain.

    Though, complaining, and calling out GOPers- calling their offices – is a good complaint.

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    Yarrow says:

    @rikyrah: Complaining TO your GOP reps is good. Just complaining online, on blogs, Facebook, whatever will do nothing. We need to be letting our reps hear our anger too.

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    frosty says:

    @Kay:

    The Trumpsters are gonna regret splitting up families. We won’t keep them together when they all go to prison. We need a deterrent to white collar crime.

    Perfect!

    PS Welcome back from me, too.

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    Tokyokie says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I know Cleta from back in college at the University of Oklahoma, when she was still going by her maiden name, Cleta Deatheridge. I went to her house once for a campaign chat with Fred R. Harris she hosted when he ran for president in 1976. (The coffee klatch was probably fall of 1975.) But then she figured out that the R’s have a lot more money than the D’s.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Ruviana:

    I like that story! Thanks.

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    EriktheRed says:

    he’ll make a great campaign talking point for Democrats at any level, nationwide.

    As long they make the effort to actually USE IT.

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    J R in WV says:

    @LAO:

    It makes more sense to me that Cohen has not decided whether or not to cooperate yet.

    He’s still pretending to himself that he has a choice, methinks.

    But he doesn’t, really.

    He is so busted eventually he will figure out all the money and effort expended on a defense is wasted. Or not, in which case he will waste more of his stash, if it isn’t all gone already.

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    Ladyraxterinok says:

    @Tokyokie: Yea!! for Fred Harris. My mom got to meet him through her work in Tulsa League of Women Voters.

    I voted for him in the IA caucus in 76.

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    ruemara says:

    @Betty Cracker: Yep! & strangely cute.

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    sherparick says:

    Meanwhile, Federalist PitchBot has captured this perfect moment for the Trump era:

    https://twitter.com/FederalistPitch/status/1006890450660323328

    2024 Dennis Hof for President, as endorsed by the Ralp Reed, Jerry Fallwell Jr., and the rest of the priesthood.

    Regarding the Trump Administration Immigration Policy, Racism, and Corruption, when Centrist MSM say liberals are saying to harsh things, I think Mr. William Lloyd Garrison speaks for us all in the first edition of “the Liberator”:
    “I AM aware that many object to the severity of my language; but is there not cause for severity? I will be as harsh as Truth, and as uncompromising as Justice. On this subject I do not wish to think, or speak, or write, with moderation. No! No! Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the hands of the ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her babe from the fire into which it has fallen—but urge me not to use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest—I will not equivocate—I will not excuse—I will not retreat a single inch—and I will be heard. The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead.”

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    EBT says:

    @MattF: @rikyrah: Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 is real and Pruitt would have enough time to sink Mueller.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kay:

    The Trumpsters are gonna regret splitting up families. We won’t keep them together when they all go to prison. We need a deterrent to white collar crime.

    Pikes and Tumbrels have been traditionally very effective.

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    notoriousJRT says:

    I am sure this has been observed before above: In addition to his being part of a brazenly corrupt administration, he is doing Trump’s bidding at EPA. Scott Pruitt wants to run for POTUS some day. HIs ambitions needs to be strangled in the cradle.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I didn’t make a Ron Johnson staffer cry, but I did make him stammer and say he just worked for the office

    Better luck next time!

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    🌷 Martin says:

    I hope nobody is under the illusion that ‘drain the swamp’ meant eliminating corruption? It always meant purging minorities and liberals from the administration.

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    Aleta says:

    deleted

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    Aleta says:

    I see that the raccoon made it to the top. Canned cat food lured him into a cage. Yesterday he didn’t look well. Maybe just dehydrated or else parasites winning. The concrete must have been rough on his paws.

    I know, I know they’re destructive to our environments, but they’re cool creatures in theirs. We had some in our house one summer when we were gone. We had students from a distant country living with us that year, and we’d shown them be aver prints at the river. Taken them canoeing to see the houses and attempted water engineering. When we came home we learned that “the be a vers” had been coming through the cat door and up onto the kitchen table where the women were studying, to help themselves from their candy bowl. By that time they were going through a bowl of candy every night, not to mention the entire supply of cat food.

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    Aleta says:

    btw, be a ver is a banned word

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    chopper says:

    @Aleta:

    if you put an open and closed italic or bold or whatever bracket set in the middle of the word you can get around the filter. like bea[i][/i]ver or some such (using real brackets, not the square ones).

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Mike in DC:

    If the Senate GOP balks, let them know it will be a political death march for most of them.

    Why stop there?

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