Open Thread: Invertebrate Paul Ryan Indicates A Shift in the Political Tide

Cynics point out that Paulie No-Balls waited until well after Trump’s bullshite ‘spygate’ fantasies had become settled wisdom among the Deplorable Base, but I think any sign of Ryan developing an allergy to Republican lies has to be a positive for truth, justice, and the American way:

Ryan (R-Wis.) described as “accurate” an initial assessment offered by week by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Oversight Committee, who told Fox News that “the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do” in investigating information alleging certain Trump campaign advisers had suspicious ties to Russia…

Ryan was careful Wednesday not to disparage all of Nunes’s complaints with the Justice Department, a list of grievances that includes several unfulfilled demands for documents unrelated to the spying accusations. Democrats maintain Nunes is determined to undermine the law enforcement agencies and, by extension, the foundations of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation into whether Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the election’s outcome.

Ryan’s announcement appeared to surprise some fellow Republicans pushing for release of that information. Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), who has floated the possibility of impeaching Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees Mueller’s probe, declined to comment on Ryan’s take until after he had spoken directly with the speaker…

And speaking of organisms supremely sensitive to shifts in the prevailing ‘wisdom’…

162 replies
  1. 1
    Corner Stone says:

    1. ZEGS says something about Trump
    2. …
    3. Profit!

  2. 2
    oatler. says:


  3. 3
    No One of Consequence says:

    Spinnin’ down the drain, spirals gettin’ tighter.

    America, or Trump?

    Becoming more and more a Distinction without Difference.

    Keep the faith, and try to keep Hope. These days seem dark.

    Oh, and Rude Pundit has a pretty damn good piece up today. One of his better ones.


    – NOoC
    *edited to add the plug for theRudeOne

  4. 4
    Corner Stone says:

    ZEGS is going to do any and every thing he has to in order to guarantee that sweet, sweet, RWNJ sinecure after he leaves office.

  5. 5
    Doug R says:

    Spineless jellyfish floatin’ closer to shore, I see. I guess they don’t want to end up drying up on the beach.

  6. 6
    Corner Stone says:

    Now that David Koch apparently is too ill for servicing, ZEGS only has one Koch brother to, um, placate. Unless he’s into compassionate palliative care for billionaire donors. Which I guess if that’s your thing…

  7. 7
    Corner Stone says:

    @Doug R: “Junior, fetch me my giggin’ stick.”

  8. 8
    J. says:

    Oh please. Ryan is a lame duck. Nothing he says matters. And even if he was staying, he’d roll over for Trump when push came to shove.

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    cain says:

    In honor of Ryan, I”ll be playing Rage Against the Machine for the rest of the day. The fucker finally found his patriotism, stuck as a stain in his underwear now doubt.

    I don’t understand the commander of cheese comment?

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    cain says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Now that David Koch apparently is too ill for servicing, ZEGS only has one Koch brother to, um, placate. Unless he’s into compassionate palliative care for billionaire donors. Which I guess if that’s your thing…

    When the piece of shit dies, they’ll give the guy a full Reagan style funeral. Weeping Republicans will cry over the casket cuz the money dispenser is all fucked and their coke habit needs to stop.

  11. 11
    Mnemosyne says:

    Waiting in an online queue to try and buy pre-sale tickets to “Dear Evan Hansen.” I suspect I’m going to fail to get any, but I wanted to try.

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    trollhattan says:

    Play the very brief Conway clip for delicious cheese.

  13. 13
    Corner Stone says:

    @cain: Ryan didn’t find shit. Except for a few more gullible suckers in the media. Don’t look directly at Paulie Blue Eyes or you’ll fall under his genjutsu.

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    Daoud bin Daoud says:

    Well, well – someone has gained temporary access to a spine.

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    Jeffro says:

    The true believers, the Randians, the evil-but-not-completely-stupid Rs… they have to sense that they are going to get pasted in the 2018 elections and most certainly will lose in 2020 if they do not cut bait on trumpov soon.

    And yet…their base, right? THEIR BASE! How do they cut Clownmandias loose without causing 80%+ of their voters to riot??

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    Corner Stone says:

    Get a fucking grip. Ryan has done this over and over and over and over and over and…
    This isn’t real. Paulie ain’t gonna do shit.

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    JPL says:

    Trump is playing the mime version of Simon Says

    Good boy, Pence..

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    Fleeting Expletive says:

    I did something I’ve rarely done today–write a letter to my newspaper. My senator opined to a, Religious Leaders conference (?) that if Oklahoma votes to legalize cannabis it will be harmful to the “social fabric” of the state. What pray tell does that mean and why wasn’t he in TX with Senator Markey. He’s such a slimy aw-shucks kind of a …..AARGH! I don’t think the MJ question is any of his business, since it’s a state issue. The actual ballot question as I understand it isn’t optimally designed for real legalization, it’s a very begrudging option, and it may not pass. But so far it’s the best option we have–me and my likewise pain impaired kin. I was kinda scared to publish it, being seriously pissed.

  19. 19
    cain says:

    Haha, perfect. :D

  20. 20

    That is just a horrible freeze-frame for KAC.

  21. 21
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Someone linked to a snarky article the other day about how bigotry is like a reverse facelift, aging people before their time. Kellyanne definitely seems to be showing the effects of one such reverse facelift.

  22. 22
    MattF says:

    I still think Ryan is in the species ‘doesn’t need a spine because he has an exoskeleton’. Lickspittleus Grovellus.

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    trnc says:

    @Major Major Major Major: You say that as if there are any good ones.

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    @trnc: I liked her little Paddington Bear outfit.

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    sukabi says:

    ZEGS probably got to listen to a few of the Putin / Drumpf late night phone calls courtesy of the “deep state” with a few of Nunes / Drumpf calls thrown in for good measure…could explain his sudden concern for country…would also explain Nunes sudden silence.

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    Humdog says:

    @Mnemosyne: I hope the rapid aging is caused by bigotry, and not hatred. If it is hatred, most of us better have our Dorian Grey portraits tucked away to get thru these next couple of years without turning into KAC ourselves, just with different targets for our hate than hers.

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    Corner Stone says:


    I hope the rapid aging is caused by bigotry, and not hatred

    What’s the difference? If we hold a hatred for bigots doesn’t that makes us bigoted against bigots? Ipso facto quanto tatum, we all shortly look like the dark witches in Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters.

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    sukabi says:

    In other “news” chances are that the North Korean summit won’t happen…Giuliani has been flapping his yap

    JERUSALEM (AP) — Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday boasted that Donald Trump’s tough line had forced the North Korean leader to beg to re-schedule a high-profile summit after the president abruptly called off the meeting.

    After the cancellation, “Kim Jong Un got back on his hands and knees and begged for it, which is exactly the position you want to put him in,” Giuliani told a business conference in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv.

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    sukabi says:

    @JPL: national coordination response…you’re doing it wrong.


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    JPL says:

    @sukabi: Pence is the new definition for lap dog. Melania didn’t play the game.

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    Buckeye says:


    I don’t understand the commander of cheese comment?

    Yesterday was National Cheese Day, perhaps she was riffing off of that. Or because Ryan is from Wisconsin, known for its delicious cheeses, she was asserting tRump’s command over Ryan?

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    JPL says:

    @Buckeye: Perhaps she doesn’t really care anymore.

  33. 33

    Commander of cheese. Well, that’s a new one. I don’t know what to say about that, other than that I like it. Maybe it’ll stick.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Can we please all agree to stop making these damn stupid dinosaur movies?

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    magurakurin says:



    “I’m a Cub fan and a Bud man”

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    trollhattan says:

    Read today that Rudy and Gorka(!) were slated to accompany Dolt45. How can they possibly help?

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    JPL says:

    @trollhattan: Gorka is accompanying the Fox news folks with Hannity.

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    Quaker in a Basement says:

    “Commander of Cheese”?

    How did we not think of this before? Thanks so much, Kellyanne!

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    Planetpundit says:

    Never watch what the Repubs say. Always watch what they do. They have done nothing about Cabinet level corruption; nor Russian usurpation of our Govt or Elections; nor anything to hold Trump accountable for any words or deeds. The rest is just tweetchasing. A pastime the natl political media does well and enriches itself with.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Which was the one where they carried around some blood-stained object for like half the movie, and then the genius dinosaur expert remembered that they had a super sensitive sense of smell like sharks and could track it from miles away?

    Come on, people, you’ve got scary dinosaurs; you don’t also need to make your characters complete dumbshits for the movie to work. But that happens in almost every Jurassic Whatever movie.

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    Schlemazel says:

    He is also bringing his emotion support Hannity with. We all better hope this summit does not happen

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    lollipopguild says:

    @cain: She was probably trying to say ‘Commander in Chief’. Commander Cheese works.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Steeplejack (phone): Coming soon to a theater near you-“Jurrasic Park -everyone is now dead!”

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    cain says:


    He is also bringing his emotion support Hannity with. We all better hope this summit does not happen

    We need Trump dolls with “emotional support Hannity” packaged together. You can pair them together. We’ll even throw in a eagle.

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    eemom says:

    The “spineless” meme is one of the dumbest out there. Elected republicans don’t cater to Dump because they’re afraid to stand up to him. The degree to which they cater or pay lip service to some disagreement with him is always, ALWAYS, predicated on a calculation of what best serves their own personal scumbag agenda.

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Corner Stone: Way TOO much money to be made.

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    @Steeplejack (phone): I have never understood the attraction of either these dinosaur movies or most comic book ones for that matter. Too much action and too little of anything else. I saw the first one, it was not particularly scary even though I was much younger then.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    That is just a horrible freeze-frame for KAC.

    Is there such a thing as a good freeze-frame for her? Maybe a freeze in which she doesn’t appear.

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    Doug R says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Can we please all agree to stop making these damn stupid dinosaur movies?


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    @eemom: Elected Rs are afraid of their base, that’s why so many are retiring instead of opposing the President or standing up to him any meaningful way.

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    dmsilev says:


    He is also bringing his emotion support Hannity with.

    Is Air Force One as restrictive as the regular airlines in clamping down on that sort of thing? It’d be so sad if Hannity had to ride inside a pet carrier in the cargo hold.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Duct taped to the undercarriage would be my choice for him

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    dmsilev says:

    @schrodingers_cat: It’s worse than that. A lot of the elected Republicans _agree_ with both their base and Trump, it’s just that they wish he wouldn’t be quite so blatant about shouting out things they’d prefer to whisper.

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    khead says:

    RIP Jerry Maren @ age 99(!). If you don’t know, you better ask somebody about the Lollipop Guild. Because he represented them.

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    @dmsilev: That too. They do agree with him, he is the personification of everything they believe in.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Ryan is leaving Congress. Perhaps leaving has helped him develop a spine. Calling the ridiculous “spygate” a lie is not praiseworthy. Let’s see if he calls out Nunes’ sleaziness.

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    NotMax says:

    It’s a rank an order of magnitude higher than Mayor McCheese.

    Why do I get the feeling Conway let slip one of the names used to refer to him inside the White House?

  58. 58

    Bear with me just a second here. I’m going to put something out there and I hpoe y’all’n will think about it for a moment before snap-reacting.

    Should we stop asking “WHY” any Republican does/says anything (or, more specifically, why they did/said such-a-thing at such-a-time)?

    What does it get us? If your answer is “brief entertainment”, well and fine; we’re done here; go play, with my full blessing. But if the “why” question is serious, think about the only kinds of answers you get:

    A) implausible
    B) nonsensical
    C) convoluted
    D) discreditable (to the Republican, not to the person asking “why”)
    E) horrifying
    F) terrifying (not the same thing)
    G) combinations of the above

    Now, think about the average extent to which any of the answers are either predictive (going beyond known priors(*)) or explanatory.

    So I propose a Third Law of Questions, namely that questions respecting the motivations of Republicans are not worth asking, because, in any given case, they either fall into known priors(*) or else are completely inscrutable.

    The deeper point is that everything Republicans do or say is performative. It may look or sound like discourse or action, but it isn’t — even where it has concrete real-world effects. Therefore, the only level upon which it can be engaged is that of applied literary criticism. Then there is a tacit elision between politics (whatever that is, or may be, or once was) and applied literary criticism. Perhaps that elision is correct and necessary; but, if so, then all the more should it be made explicitly. There is (if the latest DSM has not defined it away) a mental disorder whose victims lose track of the distinction between reality and performance and start believing that characters in their favorite TV series or movies are actual persons. Whatever one does repeatedly, one becomes conditioned to continue doing. When we mistake performance for discourse, or even pretend, as a rhetorical strategy, to mistake performance for discourse, the distinction fades, and I think the distinction is a crucially important one.

    So perhaps we should confine ourselves to observations of the form, “such-a-Republican did/said such-a-thing; it is (categories listed above), for these reasons”, rather than falling into the trap of speculating on motivations, which speculation is not only a category error, but one that confers a supposititious and unintended legitimacy upon its subject.

    (*) The list of known priors can probably be consolidated; that is a separate issue.

  59. 59

    Commander of Cheese…is that like Mayor McCheese?

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    Schlemazel says:

    20-25 years ago we ran into him & his SO in a restaurant in MN having breakfast. He had a custom van that had Oz images painted on it. He signed autographs for people who ased & had a few pictures taken with kids. I would have thought he would be sick of it by then but he seemed to be enjoying himself

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    WereBear says:

    How many times have we been through this since the W years? Oh, look, it’s a Republican pretending to have ethics! Over there, a conservative pundit said something sensible. McCain is being a maverick again.

    Then they all vote for something heinous.

    I don’t get excited anymore.

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    magurakurin says:

    @Frank Wilhoit: I, for one, am utterly tired of the media attributing motives to the insane shit Trump does. I think you are probably on fairly solid ground extending this to the entire Republican Party.

    “I don’t see any method at all, sir.”

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    Hungry Joe says:

    Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is 87%, second only to Bush II’s something like 98% right after 9/11. All is going well, as far as way too many Americans are concerned.

    I expect that sooner or later a flurry, a wave, a tsunami of pardons will be spewing from the White House. And about 40% of the country will roar its approval. Then … jee-zus, then WHAT?

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    satby says:

    @khead: @Schlemazel: needs link. RIP Mr. Maren!

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    Mary G says:

    I think there are a few little cracks in the dam of Trump-is-the-best-president-evah and this might be why:

    Holy hell. The GOP's internal polling must be saying something pretty cataclysmic for Ryan to suddenly reassemble his vertebrae like this.— golden state warrior blond (@goldengateblond) June 6, 2018

    Not to mention he lost the Koch brother who is still operating over the tariffs. You can demonize black and Native American people all you want, but don’t fuck with my bank account!

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    Hungry Joe says:

    @WereBear: In checkers, that’s known as the Susan Collins Opening. I THINK it’s checkers. But maybe it’s 52-pickup.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Was hoping someone would post the “Commander-of-Cheese” clip.

    Garden of Edam stuff there. Gouda job, Anne Laurie!

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    NotMax says:


    See: Lucy, football.

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    NotMax says:


    That was pretty gouda.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I enjoyed the Atlanta meet up tonight. I can’t believe we were the only ones who showed up!

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    NotMax says:


    See you got there first, SD (edit?).

    Quelle fromage. Looks as if I don’t know jack.


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    khead says:

    NBA Commissioner Adam Silver is dunking on the NFL in primetime on ABC.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Doug R:

    While swimming in the sea just now,
    A jellyfish approached my brow.
    Who wants my jellyfish?
    I’m not sellyfish.

    — Ogden Nash

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    Yutsano says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: @NotMax: If you use the proper pronunciation of the Dutch G it doesn’t work as well. Just sayin’.

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    NotMax says:


    Better a Dutch G than those saucy Holland A’s.


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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I know, after all the invitations that went out! Oh well, their loss. Or as efgoldman would say, “Fu


    Dead battery.

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    JPL says:

    @Steve in the ATL: You guys had an Atlanta meetup without me.. I’m jealous but hope you had fun.

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    magurakurin says:


    If you use the proper pronunciation of the Dutch G it doesn’t work as well. Just sayin’.

    we speak ‘mercan round these parts, bucko. Don’t need us no Dutch.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Provalone by the telephone :-(

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    NotMax says:

    Landlady received a recall notice about her car. Been trying all day to make an appointment at the dealer shop for her. No one picks up the farkakte phone.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Next you’re going to carry on about Van Gogh, aren’t you?

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    zhena gogolia says:


    He’s back in Atlanta? Does that mean Mrs. Steve is doing better?

  83. 83
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @JPL: we talked about you! Perhaps a group birthday celebration in late July/early August, when all the cool kids were born.

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    NotMax says:


    That’s practically a feta accompli.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @zhena gogolia: sadly, I’m in Atlanta because she is not doing well. Not at Mayo anymore but back at Emory.

    On the plus side, I just ran into my favorite night shift nurse. What up, Darcy?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Ugh. Sorry to hear that.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    In fact (Steve will back me up) we mentioned you. I said that you and I try to get together for lunch around our July-August birthdays. Steve in the WTF is also August and invited himself to join us this year, and I said “Sure!”

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    JPL says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I’m so sorry to hear about your wife, but Emory is a good hospital.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    What is he saying?

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    @Steve in the ATL:
    I’ll add my condolences as well. I can’t imagine what you must be going through

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    MomSense says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I’m really sorry. I will keep your wife in my thoughts.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Fingers crossed for Mrs in the ATL, and for you. Glad you got to see Subaru Diane.

    Hang in there.


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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Oh, I’m sorry.

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    Barbara says:

    Ryan has been given permission to go off the reservation because tax legislation has been passed and trade issues are starting to percolate, so the marriage of convenience between the free market purists and Trump is over.

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    @Steve in the ATL: {{}} and best wishes to both you and Mrs in ATL.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Doug R: Damn youse!! *shakes fist*

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    Thanks all—and thank you dilaudid drip!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Alas, no. She’s in hospital not far from here, and — as Kipling would say — uncomfy.

    On one hand, I love seeing Steve. But, sadly, whenever I do, it means that his wife is in pain and needs hospital. I am conflicted.

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    Barbara says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Sorry to hear about your wife, and I hope the both of you get some good news very soon.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Another Scott:

    Subaru Diane


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    El Caganer says:

    @cain: Commander of cheese, duchess of prunes, whatevs

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    TenguPhule says:


    so the marriage of convenience between the free market purists and Trump is over.

    They’ve renegotiated the terms so that Trump still gets to grab them by the cats, but now they get to politely complain about it while still doing nothing about it.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Oh no. My best to Mrs. Steve. In the hospital, alas.

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    SFAW says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Let’s see if he calls out Nunes’ sleaziness.

    Yeah. ZEGS’s “principled stand” don’t mean shit unless he takes Nunes off of Intelligence. Until that happens, Paulie is just shoveling more bullshit for the rubes in the MSM.

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    🇺🇸🌎 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)  🗳🌷 says:

    Fuck the moron on that thread whining about Joy Ann-Reid and saying there’s some kind of double standard.

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    NotMax says:

    For no reason other than maybe a giggle –

    Before TV, some amusement parks boasted attractions based on recreating major disasters (burning tenement buildings, the San Francisco earthquake, there was even one which proudly barkered patrons to rush inside to experience “The End of the World”).

    Anyway, came across this ad for one such, presenting live onstage the Galveston flood. It’s the cheerfully presented plus at the top of the right hand column that made me chortle a bit.

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    artem1s says:

    @cain: Rumor has it that the Koch offspring aren’t nearly as enthusiastic about throwing their inheritance down the drain on political campaigns as their parents are/were. The Party elite have been sweating out the eventual loss of that sweet Koch money for a while now. May it happen, like, tomorrow – for sure before November elections can be bought and sold to the highest Koch-sucker.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Come on, people, you’ve got scary dinosaurs; you don’t also need to make your characters complete dumbshits for the movie to work. But that happens in almost every Jurassic Whatever movie.

    Obviously the underlying premise is that greed, or greed + hubris, is going to lead to the downfall of the entire human species.
    “Oh, wait. The velociraptor has razor sharp claws that can disembowel me, can jump one story high, and can run about as fast as a cheetah. But I can control them with some DNA splicing! Let’s add some paying guests and see what happens next!”

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    Corner Stone says:


    Rumor has it that the Koch offspring aren’t nearly as enthusiastic about throwing their inheritance down the drain on political campaigns as their parents are/were.

    I don’t understand why they would not be enthused? You spend a few hundred million and get back several billion back, sometimes per quarter. What could they not like about that ROI?

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    JPL says:

    Chris Cuomo is allowing Sarah Sanders to lie without much push back on CNN. I hope that CNN is proud.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Corner Stone: Lol!! I loved “Jurassic Park”. The rest of them are meh.

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    trollhattan says:

    Ooh, conflicted.

    A Kentucky woman has been charged with murder after killing a notorious Kentucky White Supremacist while allegedly driving drunk, reports

    Emily Sherry, 23, is from Newport, a Cincinnati suburb and was driving eastbound on Interstate 275 when she allegedly hit a Toyota Camry driven by Robert Ransdell, 37. He was found dead under the wheel of his vehicle, dead at the scene.

    Ransdell was a leader in a neo-Nazi group called the National Alliance and ran for U.S. Senate in Kentucky in 2014 with the slogan “With Jews, we lose.” A few years ago he was arrested while prepping to protest Martin Luther Kind Day, or as he called it “Machin’ Lootin’ Killin’ Day.”

    Sherry allegedly told police that she was drinking bourbon while babysitting before killing the Nazi. She was reportedly “intoxicated to such an ‘extraordinary degree’ officers felt it would have been unsafe for her to perform standard sobriety tests.” Her alleged blood alcohol concentration was .422, and BAC level over .4 can lead to coma or death.

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    JPL says:

    Now Sarah is saying they are bringing back wealth through the trade tariffs, and that will lower the deficit.

    What is the point of this interview.

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    rikyrah says:

    Philadelphia Eagles player lets his posters do the talking for him

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    zhena gogolia says:


    That’s hilarious.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: speak of, still concerned we haven’t heard from efg for quite a while.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Sorry to hear the news. Sending positive thoughts and prayers.

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    NotMax says:


    “And we’ll be able to build much nicer kiddie cages, too!”

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    satby says:

    @Steve in the ATL: sorry she’s still having issues and hoping she turns the corner and gets better soon. Tell her we’re all rooting for her!

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    Another Scott says:

    @artem1s: Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t most of the reports of “Kochs giving Republicans $400M” and so forth actually totals that members of Koch-directed groups pledge to spend?

    E.g. McClatchyDC:

    An array of Koch-affiliated groups plans to spend up to $400 million on the midterms, but could shift resources to other races, including those at the state level if promises aren’t kept, said James Davis, a spokesman for Freedom Partners, a Koch group.

    “We get engaged in the political process to advance these issues,” Davis said of a tax overhaul. “If they’re not doing that we’ll find other opportunities.”

    IOW, as I understand it, the Kochs set up groups, put up some seed money, hire some people, and then beat the bushes to get other RWNJ millionaires to contribute. How much do the Kochs actually contribute? Dunno.

    Sourcewatch says that Freedom Partners has 200 members and raised $256M in the 2012 cycle.

    The problem with the Kochs and their money isn’t going to go away when those particular oldsters are gone. All their front groups may not survive, but there are too many RWNJ millionaires out there willing to continue the “work”.


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    Mary G says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Best wishes for you and your wife.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    He posted two or three nights ago, from hospital, with a terrible WiFi connection.

    I’ll give him a few days, as I’m sure Balloon Juice isn’t at the top of his priorities list, much as we would like that to be true. If no further word by the weekend, I’ll phone mrsefg.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @trollhattan: Ooof, that’s a tough one. Because even though the angels guided her this time, chances are overwhelming it could have much more likely been someone with a kid at home just trying to get by.
    And .422 BAC? Sister you must be making a lot of cash “babysitting” to afford that much damn booze.

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    JPL says:

    @NotMax: I had to shut it down. Megyn Kelly is laughing because someone is worse than she is at this interview thing.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: oh, thank you! I’m sorry to hear he’s in the hospital too. Hoping for a quick recovery efg! Get well soon, we miss you.

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    tracy ratclif says:

    @trollhattan: The only reason this concerns me is that I frequently drive I-275 past Newport, KY.

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    JPL says:

    @trollhattan: Drinking while babysitting.. I don’t have a lot of empathy about the white supremacist who was killed, but what about the children.

    United States of Florida

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    satby says:

    @Corner Stone: it says she was drinking that much while babysitting. Serendipitous collateral damage notwithstanding, I hope they throw the book at her.

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    NotMax says:


    but what about the children

    It’s not like she wasn’t willing to share….


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    Another Scott says:

    @trollhattan: Yeah, um, …

    Too many people have ridiculously high alcohol tolerance (they don’t die) but think they can function in that state.

    When I was in high school I heard stories about a girl who could drink a fifth of 151 rum and did so regularly. BAC ~ 1.2%. :-/

    Yeah, that was in Ohio, also too.



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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @trollhattan: the lord works in mysterious ways

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    Corner Stone says:

    @satby: I find the claim of “babysitting” to be highly dubious.
    But yeah. Book:thrown.

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    Shell says:

    Harrumph! Wednesday and no Lily update yet?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Shell: Missed it by *that* much!

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    frosty says:

    @Steve in the ATL: Crossing my fingers for you and Mrs. ATL. I’m sorry to hear the news.

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    satby says:

    @Another Scott: The old saying is

    Rags to rags in three generations

    I believe Charles and David are second generation, so here’s hoping the old saying holds true for the crop coming up.

    I know someone who works for a private firm in Chicago that has only one family as a client. Apparently keeping the heirs from disappating the money through suits against each other and wasteful shenanigans keeps them busy.

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    Platonailedit says:

    zogs developing a vertebra or conscience is utter bs.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @satby: The Pritzkers ? I know they like to sue each other

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    satby says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: my friend is actually very discreet, I don’t know the name of either the firm or the clients.
    The Pritzkers still own Hyatt International, I believe. I used to work in IT on that account for my old company.

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    chris says:

    @rikyrah: Haha! I was just going to post that. Article proves once again that ETTD, Everything Trump Touches Dies.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Giuliani desperately wanted to be Secretary of State or AG. Passed over for both positions and reduced to Trump lackey, he is now interfering in sensitive international affairs while lying about legal matters in the US.

    Press should cover *that*, not give Giuliani free rein.

    — Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) June 7, 2018

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    Platonailedit says:

    @rikyrah: The best reply to that tweet.

    Could you call Trump next?

    — Leigh (@geekspicepdx) June 7, 2018

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    Brachiator says:


    This is a story about Dolt45’s long time architect

    This shit is unreal if true…

    Around this time, CNBC received a tip that Fotiadis had worked on several Trump projects in Eurasia. Curious about his professional relationship with Trump, CNBC reached out to Fotiadis on April 11 for comment about this work.

    Fotiadis did not respond to a call or an email. But eight hours later, he announced on Twitter that he was closing his firm, John Fotiadis Architect, or JFA, after 10 years in business. A few days later, Fotiadis closed the Twitter account he had used to announce he was closing down his firm.

    By the end of the week, all the content from Fotiadis’ professional website, including his portfolio, had been removed, leaving only a note saying he planned to join a New Jersey-based engineering company.

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    chris says:

    @Brachiator: Read on, it gets even better.

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    Zinsky says:

    Trump is the Commander of Fromunda Cheese – cheese from under the head of my d*ck!

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    Librarian says:

    @lollipopguild: Yes, and of course she was using “commander in chief” inappropriately, as a synonym for “president”.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Zinsky: If you’re going 8th grade, then it is, “From unda deez nutz!”

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    NotMax says:


    If mac ‘n’ smegma is ever on the menu, run like the wind through the nearest exit.


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    Platonailedit says:

    In closed-door remarks at FEMA today, Trump said: "We saved $1.6 billion on Air Force One… Can you believe it? I got involved in the negotiations."

    Military officials haven’t been able to explain where Trump got such a figure.— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 7, 2018

    24×7 lies. And yet the fucking so called WH journos can’t be bothered to badger the turd’s liar of chief.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Meredith Crowley, international trade economist at the University of Cambridge, says that the EU is being far more politically savvy than just picking famous American goods. Instead it has chosen products made in states that are home to some key members of Trump’s Republican Party.

    “Bourbon is produced in Kentucky, home state of Mitch McConnell US Senate Majority Leader,” she says.

    “Harley-Davidsons are manufactured in Wisconsin, a swing state that is the home of the Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

    “The EU hopes these men will petition the president to save jobs in their home states by eliminating the US steel and aluminium tariffs.”

    Stephen Woolcock, a lecturer in economic relations at the London School of Economics, adds that the aim is “to have as much impact [as possible] on the policy debate in Washington”.

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    Brachiator says:

    @chris: Crazy stuff. And as one person asked, how do we get Trump to disappear?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    He’s like the fascist Soupy Sales

    The Reagan Battalion @ ReaganBattalion
    So this really happened tonight.

    @seanhannity publicly advised all potential Mueller witnesses to smash their phones into “tiny pieces” in case Robert Mueller will ask for their phone.

    that kind of sounds like it might be illegal– some kind of incitement?, albeit the kind of illegal no one’s going to bother to prosecute

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    Brachiator says:


    24×7 lies. And yet the fucking so called WH journos can’t be bothered to badger the turd’s liar of chief.

    Trump don’t care and his staff just shrugs it off. Look at the response to his recent comments about Canadians burning the White House during the War of 1812.

    The Hill has reached out to the White House for comment.

    Trump bragged in March that he has made up facts during meetings with Trudeau.

    He reportedly told people at a fundraising dinner that he insisted the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada but didn’t know if that was true.

    Trump is a natural born bullshit artist. His supporters supply the rationale: Trump is an expert deal maker who keeps his opponents off balance.

    The lies will keep coming until Trump fucks something up big time. Maybe not even then if he can find some sucker to take the fall for him.

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    rikyrah says:

    Hannity freaks out over Bobby Three Sticks asking for cellphones

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: I’m not religious, but if Hannity ends up caught in Mueller’s web and goes down for some felony I may have to convert.

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    debbie says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    So sorry to read Mrs. Steve hasn’t found relief. Get those docs cracking!

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    Jeffro says:

    @rikyrah: gee I wonder why he’s worried?

    @satby: I’ll be right there with you

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    burnspbesq says:


    Thanks for the link. Being a vindictive asshole, I really enjoyed that article.

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    br says:

    If all he got to make decisions about was cheese, I’d be OK with that.

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