Jesus, Take the Wheel

Trump marked his 500th day in office (yes, time is telescoping out to eternity) by claiming the divine right of kings:

I don’t think Giuliani’s multiple, contradictory blatherings on the issue count as the rulings of “numerous legal scholars,” but I am not a lawyer. Also:

Trump’s cabinet is stocked with corrupt lackeys, and the GOP-led congress comprises spineless bag-men and Trump sycophants, so the bodies charged with holding a lawless president accountable won’t. Looks like it’ll be up to us voters, and there’s good news on that front.

The seniors at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School graduated this weekend (minus four in the senior class who were killed in the massacre), and they’ve announced a nationwide bus tour and voter registration drive. Via Buzzfeed:

The March for Our Lives organizers are embarking on the next phase of their anti–gun violence movement: a 60-day bus tour across the US this summer to register young people to vote and to continue highlighting the NRA’s influence over politics.

“This tour is about exposing people who take money from the NRA and registering people to vote — those are the two main things we’re trying to push with this,” Jaclyn Corin, a student who survived the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school shooting in February, told BuzzFeed News on Sunday.

Current and former MSDHS students will also visit every state congressional district in Florida in a separate bus tour:

“Because Florida is like a microcosm of the United States,” said Corin, “in the way that there are so many different areas, with so many different views, which is important to target all of them — because preaching to the choir essentially doesn’t do much, but going to the places that disagree with us is really where we’re going to make the change.”

She’s absolutely right about Florida mirroring the divides in the US. These kids are smart and motivated. They’re too young to have absorbed the learned helplessness and cynicism that leads people to believe they can’t make a difference.

They emphasize that they want to talk to everyone, even people opposed to gun safety measures. I don’t think they’ll change any gun nuts’ minds, but if they — and the rest of us — can pull people off the sidelines to vote, that can change everything.

131 replies
  1. 1
    LAO says:

    I don’t think Giuliani’s multiple, contradictory blatherings on the issue count as the rulings of “numerous legal scholars,” but I am not a lawyer.

    I am a lawyer — you are correct!

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    Readily says:

    This won’t end with impeachment-conviction.

    It will end by voting Trump out of office in 2020.

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    eric says:

    @LAO: to be fair to trump, John Yoo would qualify as a legal scholar (thanks Berkeley)

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    Xenos says:

    We really should not give them the honor of using their preferred name of “Republican“, as they are no longer recognizably republican in spirit or policy.

    Rather, we should use the term correctly applied to reactionary monarchists: “Tory“.

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    trollhattan says:

    @LAO:
    The evaluation is in and “Giuliani’s multiple, contradictory blatherings” have been determined to be from precisely zero “legal scholars.”

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    So, fuckhead wants to go down in history with Charles I and Louis XVI.

    So be it.

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    M4 says:

    Florida is like a microcosm of the United States,

    God help us.

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    @Readily: I still think President Tapeworm won’t be on the ballot in 2020, either because he resigns or because he declares that he’s won all the bigly fights there were to win and his work is done and skips the country to retire to a nice dacha on the Volga somewhere.

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    germy says:

    @Xenos: Scott over at LGM makes the case that they still are recognizably republican:

    So, to review, Trump has defied Republican orthodoxy by appointing reactionary judges, opposing the regulation of business, embracing climate change denials, opposing the Affordable Care Act, and being pro-Israel. It is a very funny “hijacking” indeed that, with the marginal exception of the TPP, sees Trump…carrying out the longstanding agenda of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Why, I’m beginning to think that Trump’s “ability to control” isn’t really why his party is all-in behind them!

    “Day 500 of the republican party being what it was before”

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    rikyrah says:

    ” writhing Hydra of dishonesty”

    Now, THAT is a phrase to describe Dolt45

    https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1003583571876089856?s=19

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    NotMax says:

    Repeating from below.

    re: those tweets.

    No, Trelane.

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    LAO says:

    Anyone else think, this whole I can pardon myself thing and the tweets about Manafort over the weekend mean, Manafort is going to plead guilty and cooperate? I think there’s a fifty-fifty chance that’s what’s going on.

    And — good on those MSDHS kids, they are remarkable and I am beginning to believe that they can change this country.

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    Jerzy Russian says:

    The appointment of the Special Councel is totally UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    I am not an English teacher, but “Councel” does not look to be spelled correctly.

    Also too, if such things are UNCONSTITUTIONAL, can we remove Bill Clinton’s impeachment from history?

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    Mike in NC says:

    Fat Bastard thinks he’s above the law? I really want to see Trump and Ivanka meet their ends like Mussolini.

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    AnotherBruce says:

    I kind of look at the “numerous legal scholars” in Trump’s head as the equivalence of Dick Nixon talking to the White House paintings. As in, like Nixon, Trump is talking to “people” who are not really there.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @AnotherBruce: I kind of look at the “numerous legal scholars” in Trump’s head as the equivalence of Dick Nixon talking to the White House paintings.

    in this case, he’s talking to the tele screen, and the legal scholars are the firm of Doocey, notDoocey and GirlnotDoocey

    also, “Judge” Jeanine, Andrew Napolitano and his own lawyers talking to them

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    NotMax says:

    numerous legal scholars

    Translation:

    A guy I know whose barber’s cousin’s mechanic once saw an episode of Night Court.

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    dmsilev says:

    I thought Republican dogma on crime was that if you didn’t do anything wrong, you have nothing to be afraid of. And Trump is coming off looking very afraid.

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    JPL says:

    @LAO: The documents supposedly clearing Trump of wrong doing were apparently leaked by the Trump camp. A weekend of tweets about the investigation soon followed, so I agree something is up.
    What did you think about this section of the lawyer’s letter.

    Former National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn — information regarding his contacts with Ambassador Kislyak about sanctions during the transition process;
    Lt. Gen. Flynn’s communications with Vice President Michael Pence regarding those contacts;

    The question might end up being, who will stand by the pres?

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    eric says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oddly, from what I have seen, Nap is not fully on board the Trump train, to the consternation of Fox viewers that go after him hard for his apostasy.

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    germy says:

    This is why I love it every time Mr. Giuliani speaks. He just acknowledged that BEFORE he joined Mr. Trump’s team on Apr. 19, Trump was aware of the repayment to Cohen and lied about it. Rudy: under the law that’s called an “admission” and it’s very damaging. Pls keep talking. https://t.co/DJYMhYb0uh
    — Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) June 3, 2018

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    JPL says:

    @dmsilev: Trump is painting himself as a victim, and his supporters are following along. I wouldn’t mind if they followed him over the cliff.

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    Greg Gabrielse says:

    Those meddling kids need to #GetOnMyLawn. I love them.

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    satby says:

    I mock Republicans now by saying that I’m so old I remember when Republicans were against Russia, corruption, and the idea that the President wasn’t above the law.

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    Yarrow says:

    @LAO:

    Anyone else think, this whole I can pardon myself thing and the tweets about Manafort over the weekend mean, Manafort is going to plead guilty and cooperate? I think there’s a fifty-fifty chance that’s what’s going on.

    Yep. Manafort’s options are not good. Flipping is his best option of the bad ones he’s got.

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    A Ghost To Most says:

    Supremes rule for religious bigotry.

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    eric says:

    @Yarrow: he cannot flip. I dont think that his family survives. I think he takes the hit and goes to jail and says nothing. He can still win a trial; he cannot beat a bullet.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Anyone else think, this whole I can pardon myself thing and the tweets about Manafort over the weekend mean, Manafort is going to plead guilty and cooperate? I think there’s a fifty-fifty chance that’s what’s going on.

    @LAO: Nope. If Manafort rolls there is no way the US Govt could keep him and his family/kin safe (and under the direction of Preznit Orange, no motivation to, either). He knows this. He won’t flip. He may go to prison for a long time, but he won’t cooperate. Otherwise it’s a lifetime of never eating or drinking or touching anything or going out in public, not just for him, but for his entire family.

    As eric directly above me notes so eloquently, he might could beat some charges…but he can’t beat a bullet.

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    NotMax says:

    @satby

    efgoldman (waves) is so old he can remember when Republicans were against slavery.

    :)

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    Xenos says:

    @germy: I would argue that the Bush II reign was well along the way to monarchism, what with the nonsense about the unitary executive or whatnot.

    Under Trump. “free trade” is just code for government support for the businesses of cronies, and everybody else is free to scrape along or fail in a destabilized commercial environment. If Republicans are down with that, then they are not pro “free trade” in any meaningful fashion.

    What I find strange is that I live in a monarchy now, and it is run on much more republican lines than the US.

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    germy says:

    Here’s a photo of the legal scholars:

    numerous legal scholars pic.twitter.com/BsmfhqQvDC— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 4, 2018

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    JPL says:

    @A Ghost To Most: Although it is a narrow ruling, it is a slippery slope to allowing discrimination. Both candidates for the repub party in GA are running on religious liberty.

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    Yarrow says:

    @eric: I guess we’ll see.

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    satby says:

    @NotMax: speak of, any efg sightings lately? I worry.

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    LAO says:

    @JPL: I hate to admit this — but I haven’t read the letter the White House leaked — and I have no doubts that the WH leaked it — I only skimmed it. Once I realized they mis-characterized the obstruction of justice statute and flat ignored the statute that actually applied, my eyes rolled so far back into my skull, I only recently regained my sight.

    But seriously, the recent pardons are all about sending a message, which may or may not be persuasive to its targets. So it remains to be seen, as you suggest, who stays aboard the USS Trump and who abandons ship. (How’s that for a lawerly answer — commit to nothing!)

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    waspuppet says:

    By October Trump will be claiming the right to bang any bride on her wedding night before her husband gets to.

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    Yarrow says:

    @satby: One last week. He was in the hospital with crappy wifi and/or an old computer (can’t remember which). Said he was feeling better. That was all the info.

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    NotMax says:

    @satby

    He came by briefly just the other day to say he is (or possibly by now was) in the hospital, with limited connectivity, but was bouncing back smartly.

    (waves again)

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    Jesus is not going to forgive these bastards for what they are doing in his name.

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    Scott says:

    Leave aside the accuracy of what is being claimed: I would like to see state charges brought against this President. With a little civil forfeiture thrown in for good measure. I think Trump Tower in New York would be great income for NYC law enforcement.

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    AnotherBruce says:

    @germy: Good God, are there that many bleached blondes on Fox News? Or are they the same person?

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    Brachiator says:

    Fuck the conservatives on the US Supreme Court

    Fuck the idiots who could not bring themselves to vote for Clinton

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    Bruce K says:

    I’m thinking that Charles I and Louis XVI got off easier than these monsters deserve. There are plenty of traffic lights overlooking Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, and piano wire can be purchased in bulk.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    I don’t think Manafort gets whacked, no matter what he does. Taking him out, especially if he stays in the US, is (IMO) just too high-profile a move for Vladimir Vladimirovich. Ex-pat Russians seem to be fair game anywhere, but I really think a US citizen in the US is safe.

    That said, I think Trump’s attempt to throw him under the bus is piss-poor strategy.

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    trollhattan says:

    @AnotherBruce:
    “Rebel” at Fox News=parting your blonde hair on the left side.

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    NotMax says:

    @Scott

    Would make a helluva homeless shelter.

    ;)

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    Annnnd the Supreme Court just ruled in favor of the anti-gay baker. Somehow I think the right to discriminate won’t end with wedding cakes….

    Personally I plan on becoming ordained in the Church of Harvey Milk, and my strongly held religious beliefs will prevent me from providing services to Talibapists and other right-wing assholes.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Manafort is 69, ripe for that “unexpected” first cardiac event.

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    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap says:

    California, getting ready to fuck up their primaries.

    New York hasn’t fixed Double Jeopardy law.

    Bernie the only non-Democrat allowed on TV.

    Yep, things are looking up.

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    Legal arguments against a President’s ability to pardon himself: https://digitalcommons.law.msu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1233&context=facpubs

    Go fuck yourself, trump

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @schrodingers_cat: “Jesus is coming and boy is he pissed!”

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    eric says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You assume it would be the Russians. Given for whom he has worked, it could be lots of folks, and the Russian angle gives them perfect cover. That guy knows too much.

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Jesus saves but the Mongol hoards.

    rimshot

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    cmorenc says:

    @eric:

    @Yarrow: he cannot flip. I dont think that his family survives. I think he takes the hit and goes to jail and says nothing. He can still win a trial; he cannot beat a bullet.

    IMHO what Manifort is afraid of is slippery bar of ivory soap on a 5th-floor balcony….

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    germy says:

    @trollhattan:

    “Rebel” at Fox News=parting your blonde hair on the left side.

    Or wearing slacks. I mean, what’s the point of those low camera angles or transparent desks?

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    The Moar You Know says:

    California, getting ready to fuck up their primaries.

    @Tilda Swintons Bald Cap: I am EXTREMELY concerned about our primaries tomorrow. CA-49 is not an overwhelmingly Dem district, and I can see a lot of ways this “jungle primary” bullshit could go real bad here.

    So there’s that. There’s also that jackhole from OC (Kerr) who’s running as for the seat as a Dem and has dumped millions into mailers – slamming other Dems. Not one of his mailers has said anything about Republicans or the Republican party at all.

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    germy says:

    @AnotherBruce: Ailes was like Hitchcock. He had a definite “type”.

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    jimmiraybob says:

    “Rex Est Lex Loquens” — the king is the law speaking.

    It took 300+ years in the west to get beyond the arbitrary law of the king. Revolutions and wars have been fought. And here we are with the Republican Party in lockstep with Evangelical Christianity at the forefront of bringing back the God ordained King.

    Modern conservatism is nothing more that a full blown assault on modernity and the Enlightenment ideals embodied in our Declaration of Independence, revolution, Constitution and 229 years of fighting to realize and defend those principles.

    Who here doesn’t think that Ivanka isn’t the Princess in training and next in line of royal succession.

    Whooda thought that I could ever write such a thing in 2018 America and it wouldn’t sound batshit crazy? OK, so it does sound batshit crazy. But, given the mounting evidence*, less crazy than a year ago and much less so than two years ago and so on and so forth and turtles all the way down.

    *not persuasive to the faith-based Trumpcult followers.

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    Shell says:

    As has been stated by numerous legal scholars,

    Mayor McCheese.

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    Manyakitty says:

    I’m almost scared to see what news is behind this latest garbage. Also, aside from voting, etc., what can we do? The republicans are too corrupt and cowardly to act. Will the UN help? Is there a process, short of all out war, for removing a severely damaged head of state?

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    NotMax says:

    @jimmiraybob

    mounting evidence

    Stormy Daniels.

    ;)

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: Jesus saves but RAMIREZ SCORE ON THE REBOUND!!!!! (from a shithouse wall)

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    AnotherBruce says:

    @germy: That’s true, He was very much like Hitchcock, but he was more creepy than Hitchcock

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    NotMax says:

    @The Moar You Know

    i think it will be an overwhelmingly large turnout and thus am not overly concerned.

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    Jager says:

    One of my life long friends is a top flight lawyer, she’s won a bunch of cases, for and against the Feds over the years. She believes trump’s lawyers are ridiculous assholes.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @jimmiraybob:

    OK, so it does sound batshit crazy.

    But not entirely implausible.

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    Jager says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: That was Esposito (Phil) not Ramirez, scores on the rebound.

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    The Other Chuck says:

    @Manyakitty:

    Also, aside from voting, etc., what can we do?

    Call your congresscritter, demand they move to impeach. Even if they’re a Republican. *Especially* if they’re a republican. Once the first pebbles on that side of the isle start to roll, Trump will be powerless to stop the avalanche.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @The Other Chuck: I’m all over it. Rob Portman DGAF. While I will maintain what I’m already doing, seems like we need some new ideas.

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    Brachiator says:

    @The Moar You Know:

    There’s also that jackhole from OC (Kerr) who’s running as for the seat as a Dem and has dumped millions into mailers – slamming other Dems.

    Yeah. This kind of stuff is weird. I’m not sure what some of the political strategists on all sides are up to. I heard a couple of radio ads that kept slamming a candidate, mentioning him by name, and associating him with Trump. But his opponent was barely mentioned.

    Also, I just recently listened to a podcast in which a political reporter claimed that gubernatorial nominee Gavin Newsom was aiding his GOP opponent Cox because he wants to demolish him and win big in November. But this may have the counter effect of energizing Republicans and getting them to come out strong for the mid terms.

    And of course, there are too many Dems running for some of the GOP seats (Issa, Nunes, Rohrbacher, etc) and may end up taking their boot off the necks of the GOP.

    California Democrats may be outsmarting themselves.

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    NotMax says:

    @manyakitty

    In theory, the 25th Amendment addresses that and creates a process.

    (I know, I know, its authors never anticipated a pernicious taint spreading across both the executive and legislative branches simultaneously.)

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    trollhattan says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    An actual bumper sticker circa 1980s. One of my favs, along with “Use an accordion, go to jail”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jager: It was a Mexican shithouse wall where Football rules (the real football, not that fake shit we have up here).

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    Jager says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: It was a hockey saying in Boston. The best graffiti in a shithouse I’ve ever seen: “I fucked your mother!” underneath, written with excellent penmanship, “Dad, go home, you’re drunk.”

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @trollhattan: That’s where I stole it from. I also remember the accordion joke.

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    Manyakitty says:

    Another thing : has anyone else noticed an uptick in stories about Putin’s ex-wife? Topics like what she’s doing, where she got all that money, who she’s married to now? Uncle Vlady won’t be happy with his boy in DC if the stink comes back to him.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jager: I almost responded to your Esposito line with “Only in Chicago” a testament to how long it’s been and the shortness of my memory.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @NotMax: “pernicious taint” is right.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @NotMax: It’s not safe enough for. a homeless shelter: no sprinklers.

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    NotMax says:

    @OzarkHillbilly

    All-time favorite stall wall graffito:

    Nietzsche is pietzsche.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: Here I sit brokenhearted. Came to shit but only farted.

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    So according to Rudy, Trump could shoot someone and then pardon himself and that’s that.

    Sadly that SCOTUS ruling was 7-2.

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    The Other Chuck says:

    @NotMax: “…but Camus candus.”

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    trollhattan says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
    The most prescient thing Donny said on the campaign trail was that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and they’d still vote for him. We should have realized he wasn’t speaking hypothetically.

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    Jager says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: “Paid to…” I’m so old I remember pay toilets!

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    VOR says:

    @jimmiraybob: We’re not re-fighting the American Civil War, we’re re-fighting the Enlightenment.

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    germy says:

    Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow needs to be investigated by the @StateBarofGA for repeatedly violating Rule 4.1, which prohibits attorneys from making a "false statement of material fact." The maximum penalty is disbarment. https://t.co/T1YAbqdV8A
    — Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) June 3, 2018

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    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap says:

    @germy: Ohh, that will fix it, a strongly worded tweet.

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    Tokyokie says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Hell, I think I first saw the Esposito version of the graffito written on a stall in a law school men’s room in Austin during the late 1970s.

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    lowtechcyclist says:

    Every time I read a tweet like this, it sounds to me like a toddler having a temper tantrum. “WAAAAAH! People are being mean to me!!”

    Don’t his supporters ever get embarrassed by this?

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    germy says:

    @Tilda Swintons Bald Cap:

    Ohh, that will fix it, a strongly worded tweet.

    If only he’d use his magic wand.

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    The Other Chuck says:

    @lowtechcyclist: If they were capable of shame … yeah.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Tilda Swintons Bald Cap: I’m thousands of miles from his district, but Lieu seems like an active, engaged congressman who does a lot more than tweet.

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    hitchhiker says:

    Does anybody else get exhausted by 9 am? I can’t stand all this reading of Russian tea leaves and cringing at the last 12 horrifying/stupid things that just happened and feeling afraid about the midterms and wanting to see the white evangelical church strangle on its own vomit.

    I’ve left facebook and twitter. I get the WaPo online and check in with you all. I listen to Ezra Klein and Preet Bahara and the podcast of Rachel’s show — which for me is a very shrunken version of my media environment.

    And it still feels like too much. I can’t bear the headlines about how CA might be about to fuck up the chance to get the midterms right, or how the Rs will hold the Senate forever if we don’t crush them this time, or how Bill Clinton isn’t sorry, or the SCOTUS feels obligated to force us all to respect the ugly thing that is current Christian passion.

    I. Just. Can’t.

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    rikyrah says:

    ‘You don’t look like a legislator’: Security stops black, female lawmaker going to work in Ohio
    Jessie Balmert

    COLUMBUS – State Rep. Emilia Sykes was walking to work in the Ohio Statehouse last year with a fellow lawmaker when she was stopped by security. Officers needed to search her bag, she was told.

    Sykes is serving her third year as a Democratic state representative from Akron. She is also a 32-year-old black woman. Her colleague, who was not searched, is a 65-year-old white man who has served in the Legislature for many years.

    Sykes said she questioned why her bag needed to be searched when that wasn’t protocol. Lawmakers only need a badge to gain access to the Statehouse or the nearby Riffe Center, which houses many lawmakers’ offices.

    Her colleague told the trooper Sykes was a member of the Ohio House.

    She was told: “You don’t look like a legislator.” The trooper then clarified: “You look too young.”

    On Wednesday, Sykes had trouble getting into the Riffe Center for a meeting. She flashed her badge for security there. Security said they couldn’t see the badge. She flipped it around. They still couldn’t see it. She was stopped, and officers examined the badge, Sykes recalled the next day.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    So, fuckhead wants to go down in history with Charles I and Louis XVI.

    So be it.

    truth

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    sukabi says:

    @germy: how very Aryan looking.

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    rikyrah says:

    The March for Our Lives organizers are embarking on the next phase of their anti–gun violence movement: a 60-day bus tour across the US this summer to register young people to vote and to continue highlighting the NRA’s influence over politics.

    “This tour is about exposing people who take money from the NRA and registering people to vote — those are the two main things we’re trying to push with this,” Jaclyn Corin, a student who survived the Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school shooting in February, told BuzzFeed News on Sunday.

    Someone wrote on another blog that this reminds them of Mississippi Freedom Summer.

    You know their organization is what’s enabling them to do this.
    They know that it’s summer – school is out- so, no school shootings, and legislators are usually out. So, what are they doing?
    Voter registration, and now, going on the road. This guarantees, that wherever they land, they will get local press, which will keep their issue, in the news.
    Whomever is advising them is on point. Keeping these kids engaged and busy. Not allowing grass to grow underneath their movement.

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    Felanius Kootea says:

    @Betty Cracker: He’s my congressman and he definitely does a lot more than tweet but he is the best Dem at the twitter game in my opinion.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Readily:

    It will end by voting Trump out of office in 2020.

    Or a heart attack during a rage tweet over how he got the wrong ice cream at a state dinner. .

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    germy says:

    @rikyrah: It’s the new voter registration that gives me hope.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    I don’t think Giuliani’s multiple, contradictory blatherings on the issue count as the rulings of “numerous legal scholars,

    I was under the impression that they were the contradictory blatherings of multiple Guilianis, as pointed out by Dr. Silverman.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Felanius Kootea: Agreed — Lieu really is great on Twitter, which, for all its many flaws is an important communication channel. Senator Chris Murphy is good on Twitter too — and also appears to be an able senator.

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    cain says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    @Readily: I still think President Tapeworm won’t be on the ballot in 2020, either because he resigns or because he declares that he’s won all the bigly fights there were to win and his work is done and skips the country to retire to a nice dacha on the Volga somewhere.

    If he leaves on his own, it will depress his supporters and finally reveal the scam. Hopefully, they will get the fuck out of the way, and let us do what needs be done and clean up our mess.

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    cope says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: And my favorite, seen on a stall wall when I was studying geology in grad school in the ’70s:

    “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” – Emerson

    And underneath that line:

    “You keep saying that” – Unknown

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    jimmiraybob says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    That would not stop things. They’d just have him taxidermied, continue his tweets and roll him out for photo ops and rallies. I will have to look at the Constitution again but I don’t think there’s a requirement to be living to be President. Just a norm. His base would love it.

    Of course Ivanka/Jarad, the first Copresidency in Waiting, would probably work to undo this flaw in the succession scheme.

    To be clear, I’m only kidding….sort of kidding……..just gallows humor ………….probably being prophetic.

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    Kelly says:

    On a Portland State restroom.
    “Art is Truth”
    “Art is Beauty”
    Art is my uncle. He lives in Gresham.

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    germy says:

    The mayor from Jaws is still the mayor in Jaws 2. It is so important to vote in your local elections.
    — Adam Goodell (@adamgoodell) October 21, 2017

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @rikyrah: A 60-day bus tour across the country costs money. I wonder who’s funding it?

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    jimmiraybob says:

    @VOR:

    “…we’re re-fighting the Enlightenment.”

    Exactly. Always. As someone important once said, “If you can keep it.”

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    germy says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Soros!

    USA TODAY-Feb 21, 2018
    Oprah is “joining forces” with George and Amal Clooney. … and donating in support of student survivors of the Parkland, Fla. shooting rampage

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @LAO: They are numerous and they are all Giuliani.

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    jl says:

    Hmmm, I wonder what the Framers would have thought about this?

    ‘ Mason objected that “he may frequently pardon crimes that were advised by himself.” He complained, “If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?” ‘

    ‘ Madison pointed to “one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted.” The security was that “if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; [and] they can remove him if found guilty.” In Madison’s view, “This is a great security.” ‘

    https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/opinion/state-national-columnists/the-simple-answer-to-the-trump-pardon-question/

    We can dither and thither over what Jefferson would have though about Title IX gender equality, or Washington about personalized license plates, or if Franklin would have liked video games. But this one is pretty simple.

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    Shell says:

    Ahhh, Giuliani. From America’s mayor to the President’s lawyer. I wonder which he prefers.

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    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman) says:

    It’s an open thread, so here’s a link to an Ars Technica story about newly declassified NSA Cold War era security posters.

    Ars Technica

    Interesting.

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    Mandalay says:

    MSNBC has been in complete pearl-clutching-fainting-couch-meltdown mode for over 10 minutes (so far) because Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.

    I suppose there is absolutely nothing else happening in the world right now.

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    J R in WV says:

    @The Moar You Know:

    If Manafort rolls there is no way the US Govt could keep him and his family/kin safe (and under the direction of Preznit Orange, no motivation to, either). He knows this. He won’t flip. He may go to prison for a long time, but he won’t cooperate. Otherwise it’s a lifetime of never eating or drinking or touching anything or going out in public, not just for him, but for his entire family.

    As eric directly above me notes so eloquently, he might could beat some charges…but he can’t beat a bullet.

    Don’t we still have a thing called the Witness Protection Program, where the government sets up a new, documented identity for a witness somewhere far, far from their original location. So Manafort, wearing a beard and shades, becomes a grower in Humboldt county, with his family working on the farm? Or something like that?

    Or can’t the DoJ do that very well nowadays?

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    SFAW says:

    @Yarrow:

    Yep. Manafort’s options are not good. Flipping is his best option of the bad ones he’s got.

    Except that path might lead to a poloniumtini with a Novichok chaser.

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    stinger says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Soros, natch.

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    SFAW says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    I still think President Tapeworm won’t be on the ballot in 2020, either because he resigns or because he declares that he’s won all the bigly fights there were to win and his work is done

    That’ll happen right after he admits that he’s been a grifter most of his adult life. In other words: not in this plane of reality.

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    J R in WV says:

    @satby:

    efg posted briefly recently and told us he had been in the hospital, but was now out of stir and doing much better. Sounds a little scary, but he seems in good humor.

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    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap says:

    @Mandalay: It’s almost as if the MSM doesn’t like Democrats or something.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    @rikyrah: A 60-day bus tour across the country costs money. I wonder who’s funding it?

    I thought it was leftover funds from what they raised from their 501-3-c

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    Gravie says:

    Re MSD students talking guns with people who are gun lovers: I was out canvassing on Saturday for Jamie McLeod-Skinner, our Democratic nominee to eject Greg Walden from office in Oregon’s 2nd district, and encountered a young guy who listed 2nd amendment rights as one of his two biggest issues in the election. (The other was healthcare.) He said he was an absolutist on gun ownership; although our candidate has pledged not to take any NRA money, and is probably what this voter would consider left of center on gun issues, we were able to have a good conversation about gun safety and common-sense gun laws. It can be done.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    A 60-day bus tour across the country costs money. I wonder who’s funding it?

    Early funding for March for Our Lives came from a number of celebrity donors. Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg, George Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, and the fashion company Gucci reportedly donated $500,000 each to the group. Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff pledged another $1 million.

    So just the usual terrorist-Jew-Muslim-Nazi-Commie-fag-traitor-scumbag-filth suspects who hate America.

    I can’t wait for Oliver North to start a campaign for NRA members to boycott Gucci.

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    Yellowdog says:

    @eric: What makes you think he would be safe in jail?

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    J R in WV says:

    @rikyrah:

    I have a bone to pick with you:

    “Whomever is advising them is on point. ”

    You are assuming they aren’t smart enough to be organizing and plotting out their strategy on their own. Naughty of you!

    These are really smart people, and they’re dedicated and working together, which multiplies the intelligence when done well. And it is done well so far.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @The Moar You Know:

    If Manafort rolls there is no way the US Govt could keep him and his family/kin safe (and under the direction of Preznit Orange, no motivation to, either).

    Putin will silence him anyway. He is not known for trusting people to keep their mouths shut. He prefers to ensure they do.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Taking him out, especially if he stays in the US, is (IMO) just too high-profile a move for Vladimir Vladimirovich.

    Interfering in a US presidential election is supposed to be low key?

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    Hungry Joe says:

    @NotMax: Re California 49th: My wife and I are phone banking for Dem GOTV. Just took a break to scan the Juice. Now I’m back at it. Join in! https://phonebank.bluevote.com?pt=Vj7z5SvNG6fsPAeJrXD8sVoEkUIDVEXZs4q1tl2GTjxM3BdFTA1gOkDJPPYeMeiI2HyrSbYqx-LHrfUeyr8pCHNrlQrPa9vDLz1my5pXIwU=

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