REPUBS IN DISARRAY! Open Thread: George Conway Is Losing His Faith

The first time I went looking for a picture of George Conway,, the NYTimes showed him as a literal coatholder — a guy, it seemed, who couldn’t get over his luck.

Some of the shine seems to have worn off over the last twelve months, quite possibly because Conway is a good enough lawyer to understand just how much legal jeopardy the Oval Office Occupant is putting his minions into:

Friends say he was proud of Kellyanne, the longtime Republican operative who was finally running the show, and the evening routine allowed him to grab some one-on-one time with his busier half. On election night, he cried, and noted to other campaign aides that as the first female campaign manager of a winning presidential bid, his wife had made history.

Over the past year, however, since Trump fired FBI Director James Comey and special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed by the Justice Department, George Conway has become a man in turmoil. A serious, conservative attorney who believes in the rule of law, he has been torn, people who know him say, between the loyalty he feels toward his wife and an assault on his profession and his ideals that he did not anticipate when he cheered on election night—delivered by her boss.

During that period, he has walked away from a powerful job running the Justice Department’s civil division, where he would have served as one of the administration’s top lawyers. And he has become a Twitter phenom—tweeting and retweeting critiques of the president and support for the Mueller probe that his wife’s employer calls a “witch hunt.” Many in the White House have noticed, including Kellyanne and, according to multiple administration officials, the president himself.

The pushback coming from inside the house of Trump’s lead cable-news defender has become one of Washington’s favorite family dramas. In “Conway versus Conway,” George attacks the president, or seems to defend the Mueller probe, while Kellyanne puts her own credibility on the line to defend Trump, who has escalated his verbal assaults on the Russia inquiry and this week even demanded an investigation of the investigation…

Not often I find myself in sympathy with a semi-professional Repub, but I’d be happy too if George’s spouse comes to her senses and leaves Trump behind. If she drops out of politics entirely (if only because the Trump taint has made her unemployable), that wouldn’t damage her status to me, either.






48 replies
  1. 1
    Corner Stone says:

    while Kellyanne puts her own credibility on the line to defend Trump,

    Wait. What?

  2. 2
    Corner Stone says:

    A serious, conservative attorney who believes in the rule of law, he has been torn, people who know him say, between the loyalty he feels toward his wife and an assault on his profession and his ideals that he did not anticipate when he cheered on election night—delivered by her boss.

    So just a run of the mill hatemonger then. He doesn’t mind too much what happens to brown and black folk as long as tax cuts get passed, and the rhetoric stays a little below the national register. That’s all he’s pissed off about, as usual.

  3. 3
    eemom says:

    Said it before, I’ll say it again: the flies on the wall of Casa Conway must be some entertained ass flies.

    eta: That said, it IS possible that he’s functioning as an alter ego of sorts for the mrs. The Fire and Fury book did say that she pantomimes putting a gun to her head every time Dump says something particularly stupid.

  4. 4
    p.a. says:

    and an assault on his profession and his ideals that he did not anticipate when he cheered on election night—delivered by her boss.

    So… he’s actually an idiot. He probably turned because drumph tried to grab KAC’s pu$$y. It’s only real when it’s personal for conservathugs.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    if George’s spouse comes to her senses and leaves Trump behind. If she drops out of politics entirely (if only because the Trump taint has made her unemployable), that wouldn’t damage her status to me, either.

    Even if trump does wind up in prison, she’ll spend the rest of her life being chauffeured back and forth between Meet The Press and CNN, never admitting she was wrong about anything, never losing that rictus smile, never being called out for what she is, and odds are she’ll die a very rich old woman and be celebrated by James Matalin Carville III or some such creature on HologramTV (a division of Fox International). Henry Kissinger in Real Housewives of Georgetown drag.

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    Teddys Person says:

    JFC. The Conways have sold thier souls for money and power. George is just having a sad because Dolt45 is prone to saying the quiet parts out loud. But of course, the media highlights brave, brave sir George for critizing the orange squatter in the White House on Twitter when real bravery was happening at grocery stores in Florida.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @eemom: and Morning Joseph did say that she used to talk about needing a shower after the cameras were turned off. Maybe this is their version of the old Bush family routine of “but his wife is privately pro-choice/appalled by some of the rhetoric…”

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    The Ancient Randonneur says:

    If Stalin could be an ally during WWII then Conway can be an ally during these dark times.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Teddys Person: I admit it is fun when he says something that could tweak Trump. But it’s all an act, really. Stick Romney, Rubio or Jeb! in there and you wouldn’t hear peep one from Georgie, even though they’d be doing 98% of the same policy outcomes.
    Although, I would really like to know if any other R pres candidate would have hired J Kelly for DHS.

  10. 10
    Turgidson says:

    Kellyanne Conway is going to hell, if such a place exists. She’s done too much baldfaced lying in service of cruelty, racism, and brain dead stupidity. There’s no coming to the light for her. Her husband seems like a more sensible GOP asshole. Which I guess is good.

  11. 11
    Gvg says:

    I predict a divorce.

  12. 12
    Ladyraxterinok says:

    Wasn’t Mr Kellyanne a leader in the long fight to take down President Clinton?

  13. 13
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I gather The Beast has been on twitter all day. Couldn’t go to FL because of the weather? Too much lightning around DC to waddle around with metal sticks? Maybe this has got him agitated

    The FBI has obtained wiretaps of a Putin ally tied to the NRA who met with Trump Jr. during the campaign
    Erickson came under scrutiny last year, when The New York Times reported that he emailed Trump campaign aide Rick Dearborn in May 2016, with the subject line “Kremlin Connection,” telling him that he could arrange a backdoor meeting between Trump and Putin.
    Erickson added that Russia would try to make contact with the Trump campaign at the NRA’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky that month.
    Torshin was designated to make “first contact” with Trump from Russia’s side. Erickson described him in his email as “President Putin’s emissary on this front.”
    Erickson wrote that Torshin would make contact with the campaign at a dinner honoring wounded veterans that was organized by Clay. Neither Trump nor his campaign advisers attended the reception. However, Torshin and Trump Jr. attended a separate NRA dinner the same night.
    When Grinda was asked whether he was concerned about Torshin’s interactions with Trump Jr. and other American political figures, Grinda replied, “Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”

    The tapes came from a Spanish investigation of organized crime. Sounds like someone was bragging about a trump connection.

  14. 14
    Kay says:

    Donald Trump’s and the Trump Administration’s lies are escalating. They’re now denying things that happened two days ago, or last week. The lies are bigger and more outrageous than they were even a month ago.

    One of these ‘brave patriots’ is going to have to quit whining on social media and do some actual work- put together some coalition of Republicans to rein these people in- or they’re all responsible.

    If there’s all these Republicans who are secretly anguished about The Rule of Law why don’t they use the constitutional mechanisms they were all handed, and tell elected Republicans in Congress to do their jobs?

    That’s not as romantic as being an undercover double agent, but it’s how this is actually supposed to work. They have Congress! They’re claiming they are powerless? Bullshit. They’re cowards.

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    gene108 says:

    Kellyanne originally worked for Cruz and seamlessly switched to Trump.

    She believes in nothing. Pay her and she’ll go on any show you want and lie to the nation.

  16. 16
    Mary G says:

    He’s still a member of the Federalist Society, just embarrassed at the administration’s incompetence and tweets are meaningless. Pass.

  17. 17
    Yarrow says:

    I don’t buy any of the act that he’s anti-Trump and it’s so, so difficult for him given her job. They’re muddying the waters in hopes both of them can stay out of prison.

  18. 18

    @Kay:
    I agree with most of your comment, but

    Donald Trump’s and the Trump Administration’s lies are escalating. They’re now denying things that happened two days ago, or last week. The lies are bigger and more outrageous than they were even a month ago.

    I remind you that the Trump presidency started with him lying about the size of the crowd and the weather at his inauguration, to people who were there and had photographs of the event.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Ladyraxterinok:

    Wasn’t Mr Kellyanne a leader in the long fight to take down President Clinton?

    He was indeed. From his Wikipedia page:

    Conway was one of the lawyers who represented Paula Jones in her lawsuit against U.S. President Bill Clinton, working closely with Ann Coulter and Matt Drudge during that period.

    Fuckem.

  20. 20
    Kay says:

    If George is actually worried about Donald Trump and Donald Trump’s low quality hires, George could campaign for some Democrats in Congress. That would be a perfectly legitimate democratic check on the Trump Administration. His family doesn’t even have to sacrifice. Kelly Ann could keep her prestigious and powerful job and George could salve his conscience.

    But he won’t. Because he wants to pretend he’s some kind of brave resistance fighter, there on Twitter, without actually doing anything or risking anything.

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    Jeffro says:

    @p.a.: and that was exactly the line to highlight too – “did not anticipate “?!?!?

    In an interview right before the election Hillary Clinton noted that if she didn’t win then it was basically going to be the apocalypse for America. We are well on our way

  22. 22
    JPL says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I feel that today’s tweets by the asshole were because of that article.

  23. 23
    Barry Rosenman says:

    I hope Oliver Platt gets to play him in the movie.

  24. 24
    Teddys Person says:

    @Corner Stone: I often wonder if Romney, Rubio, or Jeb! would have been worse because they would have been able to keep up the “Country Club Republican” veneer while enacting their hate-filled bigoted policies and there would be absolutely no push back.

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    patrick ii says:

    @Teddys Person: I agree with you, but still, the more cracks in the conservative wall I see , the better I (relatively) feel.

  26. 26
    Teddys Person says:

    @Kay:

    One of these ‘brave patriots’ is going to have to quit whining on social media and do some actual work- put together some coalition of Republicans to rein these people in- or they’re all responsible.

    So. much. this. Talk is cheap, and Twitter is even cheaper.

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    Bill Arnold says:

    @Kay:

    Because he wants to pretend he’s some kind of brave resistance fighter, there on Twitter, without actually doing anything or risking anything.

    I’ll take it. Basically because changes of mind from within a team/group wield much more convincing power than even well-reasoned/documented arguments from outgroup-ers.

  28. 28
    Teddys Person says:

    @patrick ii: Except those crack will get quickly spackled with “but, but … Trump was never a true conservative” bullshit once Dolt45 is gone. Today my feelings can be summed up by what the everlovingfuck does this incompentant boob [edit: Trump not Conway] have to do before someone with the power to do something about it acts. George Conway is closer to that power than most people, and I have little patience [edited typo] with his whining.

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    Mainmata says:

    @Ladyraxterinok: Why yes, yes he was. He’s nothing more than a standard corporate whore lawyer. He objects mildly to Trump’s Twitter antics but not his policies or his obvious treason. Yawn about him.

  30. 30
    jsrtheta says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Conway was indeed one of the “elves” who worked with Coulter, Drudge and Lucianne Goldberg under the table to reverse the 1992 and 1996 elections.

  31. 31
    Corner Stone says:

    Why would you rub a seasoning mix onto a brisket and then dump brine all over it?

  32. 32
    germy says:

    Here’s something George Conway retweeted:

    Yulia Skripal, who was poisoned along with her father Sergei in the UK in March, speaks to @Reuters exclusively for the first time since her recovery https://t.co/wSA8XjjuNv pic.twitter.com/SIrxSTasZk— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) May 23, 2018

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    Brachiator says:

    Over the past year, however, since Trump fired FBI Director James Comey and special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed by the Justice Department, George Conway has become a man in turmoil. A serious, conservative attorney who believes in the rule of law, he has been torn, people who know him say, between the loyalty he feels toward his wife and an assault on his profession and his ideals that he did not anticipate when he cheered on election night—delivered by her boss.

    Good.

    More of these people need to be experiencing a crisis of conscience.

    I’ve noticed conservatives who seem to naturally want to submit to authority refuse to comment negatively of anything that Trump does, even though it clearly violates their values.

  34. 34
    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.) says:

    This guy was with every other Republican, cheering on election night in 2016, and it’s only now that he has misgivings? This guy could have, and should have, seen what Tяump was long before now. It was in plain sight all along. I get the feeling that a lot of these shitburgers are setting themselves up to be the “good” Republicans, once this ship goes down for good. But the time to speak up about this was about two years ago. Most of the clowns bemoaning this shit show have only taken up this bold, principled stand lately, as it’s slowly dawned on them that this grift is doomed. I trust they’ll forgive me if I’m unimpressed, and if they won’t, they can kiss my sanctified ass.

  35. 35
    Corner Stone says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.):

    Most of the clowns bemoaning this shit show have only taken up this bold, principled stand lately, as it’s slowly dawned on them that this grift is doomed. I trust they’ll forgive me if I’m unimpressed, and if they won’t, they can kiss my sanctified ass.

    Most of them talked ominously about all the dirty “oppo” research they had on Trump. It somehow never seemed to make it to the public. Now they are all pissed because it’s going to be a few years before they can get their grift on.

  36. 36
    Gin & Tonic says:

    This smells so much like a story planted and nurtured by George Conway himself. There’s a name for that kind of thing that escapes me right now.

  37. 37
    J R in WV says:

    I can’t even, really.

    I doubt if the Conways, either of them, have actually committed crimes that Mueller will try to prosecute.

    But the immorality of K Conway, the ability to lie so brazenly to the world, knowing that anyone who is interested KNOWS she is NOT telling the truth, deliberately lying. Just wow! The evil oozes from her pores. Out of her eyes. Yetch. How can G Conway touch her?

    ETA: Because he can’t smell the evil, right? Sure…

  38. 38
    debbie says:

    @J R in WV:

    Ever since she pulled that Bowling Green Massacre shit, I’ve wanted to reach into my television and throttle her.

  39. 39
    JPL says:

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s appalling that he is now on the site. He still needs to be mocked and not worshiped. .

  40. 40
    Bill Arnold says:

    Our POTUS:
    Trump Claims Aide Who Gave Official White House Briefing Does Not Exist

    Insisting that negative media coverage relies on fictional sources is one of Trump’s best known routines, but in this case, the existentially challenged aide’s comments were recorded and that recording has now come out.

    (bold mine) Read the article – various journalists are … annoyed.
    The rDT tweet in question: The Failing @nytimes quotes “a senior White House official,” who doesn’t exist, as saying “even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.” WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources.
    Another quote:

    In this context, Trump assumes, or pretends to assume, that every unnamed White House official who doesn’t project his thoughts and feelings is a figment of the New York Times’s imagination. And no one in the White House knows what it’s like to be fake better than this president.

  41. 41
    Jeffro says:

    We’ve see Trumpov’s unfitness for something like four decades now? The birther shit since 2008? The REALLY heinous crap about McCain, the Khans, “very fine people”, across the past two years…and NOW Mr Conway is feeling like somethin’ aint right?

  42. 42
    Mike G says:

    A serious, conservative attorney who believes in the rule of law

    Married to Ms. “alternative facts”, a craven, transparent bullshitter in the willing service of evil.
    Either they’re splitting up or I’m skeptical of his integrity.

  43. 43
    chris says:

    @J R in WV:

    How can G Conway touch her?

    As SD pointed out he did work closely with Ann Coulter and Drudge in the 90s. Ew.

  44. 44

    There’s a reason K. Conway hangs tight to Trump, and it has nothing to do with justice. You seem to think she can walk out on Trump and into a goddamn Walt Disney movie (starring Kellyanne as Julie Andrews). Where but prison is there for her to land at this point, even if she cut ties? Of course, I presume her and the whole rotten lot to be as guilty as sin, and upon their conviction, I believe a merciless fate should befall them all, in the name of Justice writ large…

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    Josie says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.): This. It’s not like Trump hid what he was from anyone. He pretty much told us exactly who he was and what he would do from the beginning. These people who claim to be just now waking up are full of shit.

  46. 46
    Ruckus says:

    @Mike G:

    I’m skeptical of his integrity.

    My skepticism of his integrity in the face of his history and conservative bullshit knows no bounds. IOW I’m way past skeptical.

  47. 47
    Elizabelle says:

    “Alternative facts” is going to follow KAC for the rest of her life. No matter how principled her husband contends he is.

    They are both making $$$ off of their association with Trump.

  48. 48
    artem1s says:

    KAC is a plant by mainstream GOPers. She is meant to survive the carnage and bring back credibility to the Pence once the GOP decides Dolt isn’t useful anymore.

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