Friday Evening Respite Open Thread

It’s been One of Those Weeks, my sleep schedule is gehfuckten, and there are still mail-order tomatoes that need to be tranplanted. How’s your day been?

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    M4 says:

    My day would be better if the comment box remembered my details on safari mobile and I didn’t have to use a shortened name 😒

    But I am pretty good! Thanks for asking. Yesterday’s job interview went really well. There is a long weekend coming up. My hair is just the right length this week too.

    I guess I should start another short story soon 🤔 haven’t quite figured out the plot yet though.

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    Yutsano says:

    I’m on day four of being unable to stay signed in to the major data system the IRS uses. Work has been amazingly fun because of that. And no one has been able to figure out the cause yet. I can’t complain. I have two short weeks in a row.

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    lamh36 says:

    ‪Good morning from Sydney. It’s May 26, 7am! Got a full day trip planned today…Blue Mountains, Wildlife Park and harbor cruise! Wearing another shirt my lil sister helped me pick out.‬
    ‪#AussieVayKay #BlackNOLAChickInOz ‬

    Hope y’all have been able to follow me on twitter and/on FB. I haven’t really been able to post…the time difference threw me for a loop and I’m still not quite adjusted.

    I also haven’t quite caught up with posting blogs about it either. I didn’t bring my laptop and so I’ve had to try using my phone, but it doesn’t seem to be holding the charge like it usually does.

    Anyway, having a great time…5 more days before heading back to the US

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    Phylllis says:

    Had an email at 4 pm informing me we’d been awarded a $454,000.00 grant for summer programs for the next four years, so that’s set up a nice long weekend with a warm feeling. Which will last until about 8:05 a.m. Tuesday morning when I have to herd all the cats involved and get them cracking on it.

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    M4 says:

    Also we have some cute baby turkeys and a weird tree at work today.

    @lamh36: glad it’s going great for you!

    @Phylllis: awesome!

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    Catherine D. says:

    The correct mock German is abgefukt 😄

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @lamh36: You’re talking to us…from the future! 😵 I have followed your exploits on the Twitter. So glad you are having a great time.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Here in the Tampa Bay area we’ve seen a popular bumper sticker that shows an AR-15 with the slogan “Armed Patriot since 1776”.

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    bemused says:

    It’s 84 outside and 84 inside with windows open and ceiling fans on high.

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    trollhattan says:

    I was hoping to make it home for dinner, but things are very topsy turvy at the office.

    Anybody who doesn’t recognize the bug-out cue we’ve been expecting for six seasons isn’t watching “The Americans” and has a sad, sad life.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Mike in NC:
    Time-traveling weaponry. Who knew?

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    chopper says:

    spent half the day in the ER for an eye injury, so that was fun.

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    Phylllis says:

    @M4: Thanks.

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    Roger Moore says:

    I’ve been working on a poster for an upcoming conference. Also, one of our instruments has been on the fritz for a month or so, which means we’ve been working with service people to get it fixed. So I am not looking forward to a restful long weekend.

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    trollhattan says:

    Great news, I’ll grant you that!

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    trollhattan says:

    Yeesh! Do you at least get a pirate costume out of the deal?

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    Emerald says:

    Of course the kittehs jump right out and go asplorin’ first! Of course they do!

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    Shell says:

    Had an email at 4 pm informing me we’d been awarded a $454,000.00 grant

    Before Id read the whole thing my first thought was “Was it from a Nigerian prince?”

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    VeniceRiley says:

    Flying out to my sister’s place to care for my elderly mother for the long weekend; so my saint of a sister can have a break

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    It’s been One of Those Weeks, my sleep schedule is gehfuckten,

    The long days are fucking with me. I’m finding the sun has a lot more effect on my sleep patterns as I get older, but only in the morning

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    chopper says:


    i wish.

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    Yutsano says:

    @trollhattan: Go back in time. Give the Iroquois a few of those along with ammo and maintenance instructions. Watch the future morph into…something.

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    jl says:

    Another Dogs And Cats Living Together scandal? Thanks. Cute.

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    Yutsano says:

    @VeniceRiley: Yer a good egg.

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    hitchhiker says:

    Spent the last five days in Paris, where it’s been mild and lovely with the occasional rip-roaring thunderstorm. Lovely city, lovely to be here with my sweet first-born, who is just as direction-challenged as I am, but can speak the local language.

    Picture me — 60-something in a baseball hat, tee-shirt and jeans — following her as she frowns at her phone and pauses to mutter, “Sorry, we should have been going that way.” I smile because how can you not smile when you get to do this?

    Just read that the Irish have wisely told their former overlords in the Catholic church to stuff it, tyvm, they’d prefer to leave pregnancy decisions up to women. Fantastic margin, too.

    It’s a good night.

    And it’s grand to be away from the soul-sucking nonstop coverage of incompetence and malice in the USA.

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    MattF says:

    Not at all bad. Didn’t rain. Major condo building renovation project going on since last year is almost done. Unsure what to do over weekend– watch Rolling Thunder come in?

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    Phylllis says:

    @Shell: Hee!

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    geg6 says:

    Fuuuuuuuuck! My muffler gave up the ghost on my way home from work. Of course, it pulls this shit on a holiday weekend four days before payday. Fuuuuuuuuck!

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    Tenar Arha says:

    There’s a hilarious farm life, animals do the darndest thing, Tweet thread on the account of an Irish farm I follow.

    Yup loads to do but once again livestock dictate priorities……sigh……

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    trollhattan says:

    That stinks. And the quickie Midas $19.95 specials are long, long gone. Much luck!

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @hitchhiker: First exit poll suggests Ireland has voted to relax abortion laws

    The Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI exit poll on Friday suggested that voters had backed the change by a margin of 68% to 32%.

    At least somebody can have nice things.

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    trollhattan says:

    Two weeks since a Melania sighting. Time to start dragging the river?

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    Elizabelle says:

    @chopper: Oh no. Be well. No bad aftereffects, I hope.

    Doing laundry and sucking down a cold beer. Happy start of the long weekend to everyjackal.

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    debbie says:

    Those kitties were mighty surprised to see the size of those puppies as they decrated. So cute!

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    debbie says:


    A nice way to start the summer! Congratulations!

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @trollhattan: When’s Barron’s school out for the summer? I’d expect she’d be scarce his entire vac — what parent of a small child wouldn’t be, when they have *literally* nothing better to do, hein?

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    geg6 says:


    The crazy thing is I called my sister to borrow her car over the weekend (she rarely drives it due to chronic vertigo that no one seems able to diagnose). When I got her on the phone, she said she was just going to call me to ask me to drive her husband to pick up her car tomorrow as she had just had to have her muffler replaced. What are the odds?

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    B.B.A. says:

    @Chet Murthy: Never thought I’d live to see the day that it was easier to get an abortion in Ireland than in the US.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    @chopper: Christ! Hope the eye is going to be okay!

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    geg6 says:

    @Chet Murthy:

    Oh, this is good news! I needed that!


    Hope you are having a great time. I’m going to have to find you on FB.

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    geg6 says:

    I am in moderation for no reason I can discern. Halp! Halp!

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @B.B.A.: I remember that speech by Enda Kenny (sp?) about the clerical pedophilia crimes (or was it the Magdalene Laundries? I forget). The moral outrage in the man was wonderful. I felt like: “here’s somebody who really understands that it’s living breathing humans who matter first”. So I guess I kind of expected that Ireland would vote this way: it’s the way they’ve been going for a while, eh?

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    vtr says:

    Monaco Grand Prix this weekend – my second least favorite course. In two weeks we’ll be in Montreal for the Canadian Grand Prix.

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    Yarrow says:

    @lamh36: Glad you’re having a great time! Thanks for checking in.

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    Emerald says:

    @geg6: My sis had a chronic vertigo problem. Turned out to be her ears.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Catherine D.:
    Abgefuckt is, as I was surprised to learn, the actual (Anglicised) word Germans use in preference to gefickt.

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    Ruff the Dog says:

    Someone brought stress goats to my kiddos’ high school to help at AP test time. We had to sign a waiver involving injury and death. So they’re known as the baby death goats around the house. And although we’re all too afraid to speak without irony lest someone mock us for being honest and unguarded, I will say that stress was properly alleviated and it was truly lovely.

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    MomSense says:


    I hope you are ok.

    I felt well enough to take a shower today. That wiped me out so I’m going to try and rest.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    Strange day for me. I’ve been at my new job for 9 weeks. The first 2 months were training, this was my first week solo. Had my first work anxiety dream last night which rattled me enough that I felt off kilter all day. Made a few mistakes, no big deal. Then a particularly difficult client chewed me out for something that actually wasn’t my fault at all. Her assistant had screwed up. Towards the end of the day the assistant called to let me know he had explained everything to the client and thanked me for my efforts. We chatted for a bit and when I got off the phone I felt so much better. That is until I emailed my boss to let him know. According to his reply, I wasn’t talking with the assistant at all. It was my boss pranking me! Fucking Hell!

    Then I get home and talk to a co-worker who’s been there ages and he said he thinks that the prank was making me think it was a prank, when in fact I did actually speak to the assistant….I am sooooo confused. Either way, I’m glad I have the extra weekend day to plot my revenge. Any ideas? Just for background, I’ve been with the company for 3 years and know and like everyone a lot.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    You’re reminding me of a great movie scene I saw on TCM. It was a Western with Richard Denning and Dennis Morgan, called “The Gun That Won the West,” about the Springfield rifle. I only caught the end, but it had one of the funniest lines I’ve ever heard. Denning went to see the Indians to warn them to stand down because the white guys now had these great new rifles. The Indian chief, who was a former friend of his, said something like, “We’re not backing down. We know that we are brave and strong.” And Denning, waving the rifle around, says, “We don’t have to be brave. We’ve got these.”

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    geg6 says:


    My mom had an ear problem that gave her vertigo. But the ear, nose and throat docs checked my sister’s ears and that doesn’t seem to be it. Then they thought it was her blood pressure but that wasn’t it. They sent her to a neurologist who didn’t find anything. It’s a mystery.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    @MomSense: Sorry to hear you are having health issues. Sending you good thoughts.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @geg6: First your DVR, now your muffler. It’s a revolt.

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    donnah says:

    I’ve been making some headway on Christopher Robin’s rug. The Hundred Acre Wood contains oak and beech trees, so they are my chosen border.

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    chopper says:


    should be fine. of course being the ER you can’t even walk in there to ask directions without being stuck for 6 hours.

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    NotMax says:

    So old can recall regular Friday evening food/recipe front page posts. (In fact, IIRC, they used to be on Saturdays and at some point migrated to Fridays.)


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    chopper says:


    what the hell that is like inception.

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    Phylllis says:

    Thanks everybody. We’ll get to continue offering a bridge program for our rising 9th graders to give them a good running start at high school. Been offering it for the last couple of years and are just starting to see it make a positive difference.

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    Emerald says:

    @geg6: Hope they figure it out. Vertigo can be a really serious problem. Messes up your life.

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    Dan says:

    From where do you order your tomatoes??

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    Trollhattan says:

    If it’s a contagion you’ll have to start Ubering!

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    M4 says:

    @RedDirtGirl: that sounds insane and terrible and I guess it’s good you already know and like everybody, because otherwise it would sound like some red flags were raised.

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    NotMax says:

    More twists and turns than that street in San Francisco.

    The judge in the Sept. 11 trial ordered the Pentagon’s top lawyer and the fired Guantánamo war court overseer on Wednesday to testify in July in a defense bid to get the death-penalty case dismissed for alleged outside meddling by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.

    At issue is whether Mattis’ surprise firing on Feb. 5 of Harvey Rishikof, the civilian attorney overseeing the Guantánamo war court, was tied to Rishikof’s exploration of guilty pleas as a way of concluding the long-running trial.

    Were the judge to find the firing was related to unlawful influence, he could dismiss the case entirely or take the death penalty out of consideration for the jury. Source

    And a shout out of appreciation to reporter Carol Rosenberg, who has been laboring in the Gitmo trenches for what seems like forever, consistently providing concise and stellar coverage.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    @M4: Yeah, it’s a pretty casual office. But even so…

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    karl says:

    Any puppy that befriends a kitten is No True Puppy!

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    germy says:

    More good news.


    As many of you know, this has been a very difficult period for myself and my husband Brad as we have dealt with the impact of these accusations, but we are happy to see that this nightmare is finally drawing to a close.— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) May 25, 2018

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    M4 says:

    @germy: that guy’s story never sat right with me. I was pleased to see that article this morning.

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    germy says:

    @M4: and George bears no ill well. Says he wishes the accuser the best.

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    Yarrow says:

    @geg6: A friend of mine has Meniere’s disease and when it’s bad she’s so dizzy she can hardly get out of bed. It took them awhile to get that diagnosis.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Randy Credico– a very strange person who I gather is some kind of talk radio goon and friend/associate of Roger Stone– just said on Ari Melber’s show that Assange is willing to meet with Adam Schiff. If true– a big if, Credico’s oars don’t seem to touch water*– could Assange cut a deal with Meuller wrt extradition? His accusers are in Sweden, no?
    ETA: or could it be a sign of something I’ve been wondering about for a while: When will it suit Putin’s ends to start fucking trump in order to fuck with the USA

    * last time I saw him on Melber, he kept lapsing into impressions– Reagan, Nixon IIRC– it was both sad and very annoying. Made me wonder if Meuller would have trouble using people like this, and Nurnberg and Stone as witnesses since they often seem genuinely addled for one reason or another.

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    Ruckus says:

    I’ve been seeing neurologists at the VA for 3 yrs. They’ve given me every test under the sun and every 4 months or so I have another appointment and get the same basic neuro test. My issues keep progressing but no one seems to know what to do, or what it is. There have been suggestions made by some docs and other docs say no, so we go no where. Meanwhile I have OK days and bad days. The bad days are winning. Yesterday I had to measure a small part that another worker had made. Hold the part in the left hand and the tool in the right. Left hand didn’t work, I kept dropping the part. It’s frustrating as hell to have an obvious problem and no one knows what is wrong. Next appointment in about 8 weeks, I get to go through the same thing. Again.

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    NotMax says:

    Wall of pushback on this still standing.

    The Trump administration has told Congress that it’s reached a deal that would allow Chinese telecommunications giant ZTE Corp. to stay in business, a source familiar with the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a confidential matter said Friday.

    A resolution of the ZTE case could clear the way for the United States to make progress in its high-stakes trade talks with China. But news of the agreement drew immediate fire on Capitol Hill.

    Under the agreement, ZTE would oust its management team, hire American compliance officers and pay a fine. The fine would come on top of the roughly $1 billion ZTE has already paid for selling equipment to North Korea and Iran in violation of U.S. sanctions.

    In return, the Commerce Department would lift a seven-year ban on ZTE’s purchase of components that the Chinese firm depends on from U.S. companies. The ban, imposed earlier this month, threatened to put ZTE out of business.
    “If the administration goes through with this reported deal, President Trump would be helping make China great again,” said Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York.

    Schumer added: “Both parties in Congress should come together to stop this deal in its tracks.”

    “ZTE presents a national security threat to the United States — and nothing in this reported deal addresses that fundamental fact,” said Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md. “If President Trump won’t put our security before Chinese jobs, Congress will act on a bipartisan basis to stop him.”

    Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida tweeted: “It is a great deal … for #ZTE & China … Many hoped this time would be different.”

    Congress, Rubio said, “will need to act.” Source

    Declaring it D.O.A. is premature but remains not out of the running for consideration.

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    M4 says:

    @Yarrow: my mom has it. She got attacks much more often before they diagnosed her with celiac, and now she has bad stuff less across the board. Not saying that’s the case here.

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    MomSense says:


    Have they checked her B-12 levels?

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    different-church-lady says:


    My day would be better if the comment box remembered my details on safari mobile and I didn’t have to use a shortened name

    Is that you, MI6?

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    rikyrah says:

    Been loving your posts😄
    The trip looks fabulous

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    MomSense says:


    So sorry, Ruckus.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Made me wonder if Meuller would have trouble using people like this (Credrico), and Nurnberg and Stone as witnesses since they often seem genuinely addled for one reason or another.

    I think they are all playing some kind of soupy swamp game of Telephone. Can’t believe a god damned thing any of them say about the others, or anyone. They all give this self-serving insider vibe off.

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    Corner Stone says:


    According to his reply, I wasn’t talking with the assistant at all. It was my boss pranking me! Fucking Hell!

    That is a flashing Red Light. That’s not a joke.

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    Yarrow says:

    @M4: Yeah, my friend gives up gluten off and on but isn’t consistent with it. She feels better when she’s off gluten. She’s also got some intestinal issues and staying off gluten helps those. As far as I know she’s never been tested for celiac. I know they couldn’t afford that at this point.

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    geg6 says:


    They’ve checked everything. This has been going on for four years now. She can only drive on flat roads and that’s a challenge here in Western PA.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I get more pissed every single time I see the Leslie Stahl story about what Trump told her pre-election.

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:


    My day would be better if the comment box remembered my details on safari mobile and I didn’t have to use a shortened name 😒

    But I am pretty good! Thanks for asking. Yesterday’s job interview went really well. There is a long weekend coming up. My hair is just the right length this week too.

    I guess I should start another short story soon 🤔 haven’t quite figured out the plot yet though.

    Sounds like the makings of a great plot right there!

    “Like the height of trees in desirable neighborhoods, my hair was all the right length. The job interview even went well despite my grating personality. In fact, the only thing going wrong on this glorious day was the comment box forgetting my name. I tucked the pistol in the my waistband and headed out in search of Alain.”

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    Yarrow says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: How’s your wife doing?

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @Corner Stone: nah, it’s cool—she got her tax cut!

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @Yarrow: doing slightly better. I think the fact the Mayo is putting together a plan for her is a huge relief and takes away some of the frustration that was making her feel worse.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island:

    The job interview even went well despite my grating personality. In fact, the only thing going wrong on this glorious day was the comment box forgetting my name. I tucked the pistol in the my waistband and headed out in search of Alain.”

    “Things were looking up for me, despite the fact that I was usually an annoying kind of random pedant. I had wanted to move to New York City for some time but it never seemed to become real. At last, I had the chance to break free from the chains of The City. The used needles, the homeless, the late night call and response from convenience store personnel. Only I had one thing to take care of first…and his name was…”

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    M4 says:

    @different-church-lady: I was too lazy to reach for the ^ in M^4 when I first commented, and this one is already authenticated and I’m not less lazy.

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @Corner Stone: let’s do this as a choose your own adventure story!

    If you load the pistol with hollow points, turn to page 32…,

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    Yarrow says:

    @RedDirtGirl: @Corner Stone: Yeah, that set off warning bells for me too. Not knowing the players or how people interact it’s a little hard to know, but the way it’s described left me thinking something isn’t right there. It certainly isn’t professional for the boss to be impersonating a client’s assistant. Depending on how it was done and what was done could be bordering on some kind of fraud.

    My recommendation would be to clear it up in the most professional way possible and then keep interactions with the boss strictly professional and don’t be alone with him. Something isn’t right there and that isn’t a prank.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Mike in NC: 1776, you say? Wow, that guy is really old! Probably shouldn’t be driving.

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    chopper says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island:

    “hello. my name is steve on st. simons island. you took away part of my comment box. prepare to die.”

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    Yarrow says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: Glad to hear it. Hope you guys can enjoy the holiday weekend.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @trollhattan: But her husband says she’s fine! (Cue creepy music.)

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    Ruckus says:

    That is a great question. I have to take B-12 and have for over the last 3 yrs. It changed my life and gave me back quite a bit. As you can see above I still have issues but mentally I’m in much better shape than I was. Partially it’s from one of my meds that slows B-12 uptake. But B-12 is so important to our brains working that I noticed a difference by the end of the second day on B-12. Here’s some info for anyone who wants to know.

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @chopper: well played!

    @Yarrow: thank you! Beach therapy tends to help. She’s more relaxed than I’ve seen her in months, I’ve already forgotten what a union is.

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    Luthe says:

    @geg6: Microseizures? A reaction to medication? I know when I forget my morning lamotragine I spend the whole day having nanosecond long dizzy spells.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @geg6: Had chronic vertigo. Nobody could really get a handle on it but the consensus seemed to be ocular migrsine, maybe, probably. Got acupuncture for 4 months. It’s gone. Still not reslly sure what it was but the being gone part is reslly, really good. Placebo effect or whatever, I don’t care. It’s gone. It’s been gone a good few years now.

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    M4 says:

    @Corner Stone: you assholes want help with the comment boxes or not

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @Ruckus: Ruckus’ brain is non-operative. Dossier updated!

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    debbie says:


    Vertigo can occur after a viral infection. My sister-in-law’s mother developed it. Nothing helped, and it eventually went away on its own.

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    debbie says:


    It’s stunning! Will you be filling in the background?

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    SenyorDave says:

    Question – Is it possible that Rosenstein agreed to these ridiculous meetings because Mueller is close to wrapping things up? Or is Rosenstein sure there is absolutely no chance that there is even the appearance of anything there? I just can’t see why else hw would agree to it.

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    @trollhattan: Do you think Stan will be able to catch them?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @M4: “It was a beautiful day in The City, I noted as I stepped over the dead junkies or homeless. In the end, what did it really matter? A little cool for the season but I was ok with that. It helped me hide my sawed off under the trench coat as I went in search of the only man in town that mattered. The asshole who fenced stolen comment box perpetuity. He had skipped town before, but the whisper was Alain was back. I’d find out. And it wasn’t going to be pretty.”

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    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman) says:

    In quasi-political news, Stormy Daniels is coming (heh) to Evansville next month.

    Perhaps I should get an autograph?

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    father pusbucket says:

    my sleep schedule is gehfuckten

    My personal preference is “aufgefricken”.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island:
    Was damn it, Was!!
    Glad the wife is doing better.
    Forgetting what a union is? And my brain is defective? Shit.

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    Yutsano says:

    @zhena gogolia: Somehow I got reminded of a great video series on Hiawatha. How my brain went there is a mystery, I’ve given up trying to figure that out a long time ago! But it’s an interesting thought experiment if the Natives of the Upper New York confederation had a more equal/advanced technological footing (and better immunity) what history would have been like. Their ideas of governance were certainly unique for the era!

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    M4 says:

    @Corner Stone: this is better writing, well done! I knew you had it in you, wealth of evidence to the contrary

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    debbie says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island:

    Glad to read Mrs. Steve’s feeling better. Yay, Mayo!

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    gene108 says:

    I was thinking of trying to make a pesto lasagna this weekend.

    I have never made pesto before, before I start, I want to modify the recipe a bit for some dietary restrictions due to dialysis.

    Is it possible to make pesto without the nuts and cheese? Could I try subbing in tofu to get the creamy texture the cheese and nuts would give it?

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    different-church-lady says:

    @M4: Good thing you didn’t go with Milo Minderbinder.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Looks like Irish women have collectively given their middle finger to the pedophile church and their own brand of wingnuts by a margin of 2 to 1.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    Not the yellow ICE bracelet, but is this close?

    ETA: No, its an In Case of Emergency bracelet.

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    M4 says:

    @different-church-lady: that would almost be easier, if I taught autocorrect Minderbender.

    Hmm, I guess I could teach my phone a macro for the full nym.

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    donnah says:


    Yes, the trees need to be finished, then I’ll probably do the heading and fill around the lettering at the bottom. The background will be a muted image of the trees in the Hundred Acre Woods, sort of like the clearing.

    I’m really excited to finish it, but it all takes time. It’s been a great project so far. And I’ll be really glad when I can donate it to our library.

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    Yarrow says:

    @gene108: According to this recipe you can.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Wow, that’s beautiful. I’ve been reading Postmodern Pooh all day, by chance.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    And didn’t they have some torture techniques that would have put TenguPhule to shame?

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    gene108 says:



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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Ruckus: B12 is great stuff. My hematologist says that as we age we don’t absorb a lot of things well. Today was shot day. Tomorrow morning I’ll be feeling great.

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    chris says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: Had to google-map St Simon’s. First pass – you took your ill wife to a bug and alligator infested hummock in a giant swamp? Zoom in – oh, it’s a luxury hummock in a swamp, probably has bug and alligator wranglers.

    Glad to hear both of you are feeling better.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @gene108: You can do a pesto-ish thing with just the basil and oil and garlic if that’s allowed for you. Whirl it in the blender, et voilà. The taste is mostly basil anyway.

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    Spanky says:

    @M4: M4

    As far as Messier objects go, that one’s pretty good, although a tad too far south to really pop.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Gelfling 545:
    I take B12 and B2 for neurological issues and they do work. I am able to do the over the counter oral rather than shots, which is rather nice. B12 because, well everyone needs it and I wasn’t getting enough normally. The B2 is for migraine prevention and while it is not a cure, I still have them occasionally, my incidence rate is dramatically smaller.

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    eclare says:

    @lamh36: Love the shirt! You look very happy and relaxed!

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    Catherine D. says:

    @Amir Khalid: Hmm, maybe I picked it up as an exchange student in Germany 40 odd years ago.

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    Roger Moore says:

    I had a coworker who had recurring, crippling vertigo. Hers turned out to be because she was chronically deficient in magnesium; for some reason she didn’t absorb it well from her diet. She started getting IV supplements regularly and was able to work again, but she was never quite 100%.

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    eclare says:

    @geg6: One of my aunts has vertigo and does some eye/neck exercises where she looks at a chart on a wall and does…something. She says it helps. Vertigo sucks.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    RIP Glenn Snoddy, 96, the inventor of the fuzz tone and pedal. (NYT link.)

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    Brachiator says:

    I had the day off and went to see “Solo.” Absolutely spoiler free quick review.

    I had a good time. The movie was a pleasant diversion with a couple of narrative surprises in an otherwise workmanlike production. The guy who plays a young Han Solo is perfectly acceptable.

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    eclare says:

    Going to adopt two cats tomorrow from a couple who can’t care for them anymore (relatives), and older cats do not get adopted to strangers. I’ve been stressing about it because I already have a very timid, declawed cat (he came that way), and a dog, but I think I have a plan for the herd. Operation Catnap commences tomorrow, not at dawn. Any suggestions for getting a very sharply clawed and angry cat into a carrier are welcome.

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @chris: thank you! For whatever reason, there aren’t a lot of gators here. An hour south in Jacksonville? Infested. But we do have bugs, and we are well South of the gnat line. The little bastards like to bite during your backswing.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Chet Murthy:

    The Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI exit poll on Friday suggested that voters had backed the change by a margin of 68% to 32%.

    Wow. A wonderfully emphatic rejection of the old rules.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @eclare: my sister used to use gardening gloves and her husband’s motorcycle jacket. Though my Mewtant is sharoly clawed (and polydactyl) he has always gone peaceably into his carrier.

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    Mary G says:

    @lamh36: been following up on the tweets. Love the new hairdo you got in Dallas. I want to go to Australia, but probably never will. The plane trip would be unbearable unless I could afford first class.

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    chris says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: I’m a DEET person these days because it’s Black fly and tick season here. but no gators at all. Yet.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Ruckus: Imteresting about the B2. My granddaughter gets awful migraines. I will suggest this to her. I don’t mind the injection at all. I do it at home so it’s reasonably convenient and with a very thin needle so it’s not painful. Works quickly and lasts a month (28 days, actually). I’ve had issues with anemia (including transfusions at one point) so the injections are in my life to the end and probably increased in frequency as time goes by. It does make such a difference though.

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    Mary G says:

    @M4: what about Against Stupidity? I keep checking.

    Those ten hours when my hair is the perfect length are heaven!

    I couldn’t stay off the net last night and screwed up my sleeping badly, but a four-hour nap has restored me.

    @Chet Murthy: Fuck the patriarchy! I never thought I would see the day when feckin’ Ireland is more liberal than here.

    @RedDirtGirl: I thought he felt bad you had to deal with The Asshole Client and was trying to help you out, but wrong way to do it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @zhena gogolia: Excuse me, I’m anti-torture. I’m pro-painful death to our enemies.

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    Mary G says:

    @donnah: Your mastery of your craft never fails to astonish. Love seeing the work in progress and your library’s very lucky!

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    Joy in FL says:

    I saw on Twitter and then confirmed on the Tampa Bay Times website that Publix is immediately suspending political contributions. The die-in and boycott and publicity worked. I emailed Publix and thanked them.

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    Repatriated says:


    Any suggestions for getting a very sharply clawed and angry cat into a carrier are welcome.

    If the carrier has a removable top half, take it off. This transforms it from “enclosed space of doom” into “mandatory seating location box”. Watch the cat’s tail as you put the top on, and practice quickly reassembling it without the cat present.

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    eclare says:

    @Repatriated: It is a top loader, but it would be difficult to remove the top half. It is also a side loader, and tomorrow I’m taking it over to their house to open the side door and put a can of mackerel in so the two can get used to it. I’ll then leave, and repeat on Sunday, with hopes of getting them on Sunday. Thanks!

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    tybee says:

    @vtr: you driving or watching?

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    Steve on St. Simons Island says:

    @Joy in FL: there’s a left wing troll in the comments! I didn’t know we had any. Other than, you know, Corner Stone.

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    donnah says:

    @Mary G:

    You’re very kind! Thank you!

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: I have not yet begun to left wing troll.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    If I remember correctly, the fuzz tone came out of the sessions for Marty Robbins’s “Don’t Worry.”

    . . . Yes, mentioned in the Times article.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mary G:
    I think I agree on the plane trip for you all things considered.
    I flew to NZ 15 yrs ago and it was hard on me in steerage. And I was fit as a fiddle then. Today I have no idea if I could stand it for 13 hrs.

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    Steeplejack says:


    Good luck! Hope you have some blood donors lined up. Maybe ask WereBear if she shows up tonight.

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    J R in WV says:


    My dad had really terrible vertigo years ago, and the docs couldn’t find what was causing it. ENT doc said his ears seemed fine, etc. It eased up a little bit, and he was out mowing one summer afternoon, which he actually loved to do, pushing the mower around the hilly plot he had, when the mower blade picked up a wire which hit his calf.

    Deep puncture wound… off the the Doc. They hit him up with major antibiotics because of the type of deep wound, and lo and behold, it cured his vertigo permanently. Maybe worth a try?

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    Ruckus says:

    @Gelfling 545:
    Ask your doc but I take 200mg of B2 twice a day = 400mg/day and 400mg of magnesium oxide once a day. There have been a number of trials of B2 and magnesium oxide because some studies have shown that some migraine sufferers have both B2 and magnesium levels lower than considered normal.
    Like I said it isn’t 100% effective. I’ve had migraines for going on 50 yrs now so a bit of experience and sometimes I’ve had short to long periods that I’d get 4-6 migraines/month. Other times I’d go over a year with none. No rhyme or reason that I or any doc has been able to determine. And the only things that stop a migraine for me are drugs that shouldn’t be taken regularly as in 4-6 times a month. But now I get 0-2 a month. That is a massively better outcome than anything else I’ve done. I am also on a daily beta blocker that is known to help prevent them but I’ve been on that for over 3 yrs and it didn’t have an effect. The combination might.

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    J R in WV says:


    Maybe you should insist that the VA refer you to a medical facility with more experience in neurological problems at one of the Universities around CA there somewhere??

    Someone well regarded once said insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome… sounds like your VA docs are stuck hard in that kind of loop…

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    Ruckus says:

    @J R in WV:
    Well it may be a doc issue. One of the neurologists prescribed a med for me which gave me massive hallucinations that were so disorientating that I couldn’t walk to the bathroom, 15 ft away. I don’t see him any more. The next one said I may have had a TIA, which is a mild stroke and often comes before a big one. So I spent 8 months getting checked out by both neuro and cardio to find out I didn’t and that my heart is working great. He also prescribed a opioid that basically got me stoned for 2 months and not in a good way. Last appointment I got him again and he tried to give me the same med again. He spent less than 5 min with me. He’s useless. The next neuro guy is very good and thinks he knows what’s wrong with me (Parkinson’s) but needs more to make a diagnosis. With the VA you get who you get, you have to make appointments for the days the people you want to see are in the clinic and then hope that you get that doc. Also the clinics are actually staffed by residents doing a 90 day rotation who then talk to their supervising attending, who then comes in to see you. It’s is an efficient set up when you have something they normally see, when you have something that is a judgement call, requires a lot of experience with and you only see them every 4 months or so……..
    As for docs with specific knowledge the VA does a lot of research on Parkinson’s because the percentage of vets with it is higher than the general population. They seem to be quite good with it, once they know you have it. And I may not, it can be lots of different things but they’ve ruled out a lot/most of them. If I have it, it’s early and the only thing the meds do is make it more livable, they are not curative. So the time taken can be annoying but it is not a life threatening issue.

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    J R in WV says:


    I recall your list from a comment a little while ago. And the method of just having you see random resident, as you say that’s ok for folks with routine issues well documented in their charts, but you aren’t routine nor well documented.

    Best of luck. I’ve been seeing the same family doc/gerontologist since I was maybe 30… since the late 70s. He’s just a couple of years older than I, and plans to practice until he keels over. I dread that, as I have various chronic issues he seems able to deal with, and the next Dr may not agree with the treatment that has been working for years now. One never knows, do one?

    Best of luck!!

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    Ruckus says:

    @J R in WV:

    One never knows, do one?

    Someone somewhere said there are no guaranties in life. There sure aren’t. I’ve had two businesses wiped out in the last 25 yrs, earthquake and recession. I have been hit by a truck. I wasn’t in a car at the time. I’ve known love and known despair. I’ve outlived my family, I’ve outlived a lot of people I know. In the last 2 yrs 9 people I know, all younger than me have died. I’m still here, full of piss and vinegar. I can still make things in metal to extreme accuracy. So life isn’t half bad. Of course the other half sucks donkey balls but still.
    And best to you and yours!

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    Aleta says:

    @Steve on St. Simons Island: Like the height of trees in desirable neighborhoods, my hair was all the right length. The job interview even went well despite my grating personality. In fact, the only thing going wrong on this glorious day was the comment box forgetting my name. I tucked the pistol in the my waistband and headed out in search of Alain.

    The cloud of gnats that had dropped into my golf shorts alongside “Vivian” quieted down soon after the stretchy waistband closed on them. It was too hot to get riled up. With any luck the proven wicking action of the expensive performance fabric would desiccate them.

    The Subterranean Termite lay just ahead, cars clustered on a neighboring hummock. I turned into the roadhouse for some boiled peanuts and a fresh drink. The layman witch doctor was not behind the bar that afternoon, replaced by an unsentimental apprentice. I would have left a comment for my friends down at the station. But the form on my mobile device had betrayed me one too many times.

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    Aleta says:

    @Ruckus: You’ve been through a lot.

    Thanks for the info, and a reminder to take B12 again. I feel better when I do.

    I saw recent article about new ! migraine drug that is said to actually target the problem much better than previous scattershot medications. Newly approved and soon to be available. If you form an opinion on it in the future, I’d be interested to hear it.

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    Aleta says:

    @Ruckus: rats, my comment to you vanished. Was it the “dru ” or the “medicatio “– or “migrai n ” although you used that one.

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    Aleta says:

    I missed this, though probably covered here.

    Richard Engel @RichardEngel
    Our reporting shows members of President Trump’s inner circle, including Giuliani and Bolton, have deep ties to an Iranian group that was once classified as a terrorist organization.

    Guliani tells @nbcnews he can’t remember how much money he took from an Iranian opposition group that was once on the US terrorist list. Experts say the group is like a cult, and it pays those who give speeches singing its praises.

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    Ruckus says:

    Sometimes they just disappear. There is no known reason. WP just gets hungry and you post at that same moment – boom comment gone, never to be seen again.

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    Aleta says:


    A Guatemalan woman shot dead by a border patrol agent in Texas has been named as Claudia Patricia Gómez Gonzáles by local media outlets which reported that she travelled to the US in the hope of finding work to pay for her education.

    Gómez, a 20-year-old Maya-Mam indigenous woman, died on Wednesday after she was shot in the head by an agent in the border town Rio Bravo, Texas. Gómez left her home in the rural village San Juan Ostuncalco in the western region of Quetzaltenango earlier this month and travelled to the US to find work to pay for further education, according to an interview with her mother broadcast on a local TV channel.

    “She told me she wanted to keep studying at university but we don’t have the money … We’re poor and there are no jobs here, that’s why she travelled to the US – but they killed her. Immigration killed her,” said Lidia Gonzalez. “She didn’t do anything wrong.”

    Details about the shooting remain unclear. According to US Border Patrol the agent fired his weapon at least once after a group of people he suspected of being undocumented resisted arrest and attacked “using blunt objects”. The agent, a 15-year Border Patrol veteran, was responding to a report of illegal activity just after midday on 22 May. In showing the aftermath of the incident which was posted on Facebook, a woman can be heard shouting at an agent: “Why are you mistreating them? Why are you mistreating them? Why did you (shoot) at the girl? You killed her. He killed the girl. She’s laying there and she’s dead.”

    In the video, an agent is seen leading away a small group of men. Border Patrol said agents detained three undocumented immigrants who had tried to flee the scene. Authorities later confirmed that the three men are Guatemalan nationals. The Guatemala consulate from nearby Del Rio has travelled to the scene.
    The FBI and Texas Rangers are investigating the shooting. The agent has been placed on administrative leave in accordance with Border Patrol policy.

    Gonzalez graduated as a forensic accountant in 2016 but dreamed of studying further, according to her father, Gilberto Gómez. In a separate interview the deceased’s aunt Dominga Vicente called on US authorities to show discipline and stop treating immigrants “like animals”.

    Hundreds of thousands of people from rural villages in Guatemala have been forced to risk the perilous journey north thanks to intense poverty in the region. In 2017, 65,871 Guatemalans were apprehended at the southern US border.

    The Texas branch of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has called for border agents were obliged to wear body cameras.

    “While we do not yet have all the facts in this case, Border Patrol’s history of violence against immigrants requires us to scrutinize every incident involving lethal force closely,” Astrid Dominguez, director of the group’s Border Rights Center, told CNN.

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