Thursday Morning Open Thread: *ALL* The Shade

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173 replies
  1. 1
    Zinsky says:

    Strange that Trump would think he could limit Mueller’s inquiry to a narrow slice of time between when he announced his candidacy to when the election took place, when the Whitewater special counsel was named to investigate a private real estate transaction that occurred 14 years before Clinton became president!!

  2. 2
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    Probably old news around here: Donald Trump cannot block anyone on Twitter, court rules

    A New York judge rules @realDonaldTrump is a presidential, not personal, account and blocking violates the first amendment

  3. 3
    CarolDuhart2 says:

    Jackals who know real estate: does a sheriff’s sale mean that the property is for sale for the arrear-age only, or would a whole new mortgage be necessary? And if the arrear-age is paid in full, there is no mortgage? It’s not my property involved, but another condo has opened up in my building, and I want to get away from the spiral staircase with my increasingly stiff knees.

  4. 4

    @CarolDuhart2: Cole would know, I think that’s how he bought his house.

  5. 5
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CarolDuhart2:

    does a sheriff’s sale mean that the property is for sale for the arrear-age only, or would a whole new mortgage be necessary?

    Here in Misery it is for whatever the mortgage holder can get (via auction) meaning they will take a loss just to get it off the books. YMMV as I can not be sure about the particulars of your situation. When we were buying I looked into auctions of defaulted property but found that the process did not allow for inspections of the property before bidding so I passed on that and we bought this place from one such bidder. It was still a good deal for us as we got it for $35K below assessed value.

    Obviously you will have a fair idea of what you are buying.

  6. 6
    Barbara says:

    @CarolDuhart2: Where I live tax or mortgage default sales are handled by auction or are subject to the approval of any existing mortgagee and you arrange your own financing. That’s why it can be hard to buy or sell upside down properties. Real estate agents can usually find out for you.

  7. 7
    raven says:

    My ol lady is so short she could parachute off a dime!

    http://www.war-stories.com/der.....k-1969.htm

  8. 8
    Kay says:

    White House chief of staff John Kelly will attend two briefings at the Justice Department on Thursday about an FBI informant who interacted with the Trump campaign in the 2016 election — ensuring that President Donald Trump will have a high-level emissary there for a discussion of sensitive evidence connected to his associates.
    Kelly’s presence comes despite previous White House assurances that no member of the president’s team would attend the Justice Department gathering.

    Sanders lied again yesterday.

    The President is sending his employee to a briefing on the criminal investigation(s) into the President and his employees.

    Brace yourselves for a barrage of lies from the Trump employees (both in the administration and in Congress) after this meeting. Remember how Kelly invented an elaborate lie to attempt to discredit the AA congresswoman and she had to produce video to defend? There won’t be video of the Trump/DOJ defense team meeting so whatever they invent is likely to become “truth”.

  9. 9
    bystander says:

    Rick Wilson, I never thought I’d say this, FTW.

  10. 10
    WereBear says:

    If I have to be in a Kurt Vonnegut satiric novel, why can’t it be the one with the alien who communicates by farting and tap-dancing?

  11. 11
    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning,Everyone 😄😄w

  12. 12
    Baud says:

    @Kay: It’s just an early Brady disclosure, Kay.

  13. 13
    rikyrah says:

    @Kay:
    Just a reminder:

    John Kelly ain’t shyt 😠

  14. 14
    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  15. 15
    satby says:

    @CarolDuhart2: if the sheriff’s sale is following a foreclosures, there may be a redemption period where the person in default still can get their property back if they can get the funds, though that varies by state. It’s a long process unless the dwelling is already vacant.

  16. 16
    satby says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning rikyrah 😺!

  17. 17
    JPL says:

    I assume no one watched the asshole on Fox and Friends, because one would have reported on the performance.

  18. 18
    Kay says:

    This is a big deal in Ohio politics:

    Agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation are searching former Ohio House speaker Cliff Rosenberger’s house in Clarksville and at a storage facility in Wilmington this morning.
    “We are conducting law enforcement activities in those areas,” said FBI spokesman Todd Lindgren. He declined further comment.

    It happened yesterday. The storage facility is listed as rented by his campaign. There are two separate scandals, although they’re really the same scandal and they will merge into one since it’s all the same players. One scandal is around payday lenders and the other is around ECOT. ECOT is a giant online charter school. Was a giant online charter school. The state closed it down this year because the school robbed 75 million dollars. DeWine, who is running for governor, was the AG when this theft took place and he didn’t prosecute so it’s now in the hands of a county prosecutor, but he announced yesterday he’s looking to recuse because he took money from ECOT, which he didn’t bother to reveal until this raid took place. However, DeWine, the state AG and GOP candidate for governor also can’t take the case (now) because he also took money from ECOT. So next they appoint a prosecutor “by assignment” for the state case. The federal case goes on a different track.

  19. 19
    rikyrah says:

    Working from my Kindle Fire
    Why do I have to fill in the ID information every time that I want to comment?

  20. 20
    satby says:

    Oh, this is a pain, the mobile site has no box to check to retain my information to comment. Guess I need to go look that up in the tread about it. That blows.

    Edit, yes, I’m on a fire too. Evidently we skipped a plugin for the Silk browser, or whatever Amazon calls it.

  21. 21
    Kay says:

    @Baud:

    Gross. They’re so corrupt. I can’t believe they’re sending the asshole enforcer in there. Trump doesn’t even trust his own lackeys in Congress. Not that he should! They’re all a pack of liars so they need layers of supervision. I wouldn’t meet with any of them unless it was videotaped.

  22. 22
    JPL says:

    “You have to stand proudly for the national anthem, or you shouldn’t be playing. You shouldn’t be there. Maybe you shouldn’t be in the country.You have to stand proudly for the national anthem. And the NFL owners did the right thing if that’s what they’ve done.”

    Trump on Fox https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-on-nfl-anthem-protests-if-you-dont-stand-maybe-you-shouldnt-be-in-the-country/

  23. 23
    Kay says:

    I could go on and on about this Ohio GOP corruption inquiry. The corruption has been going on for years, long enough for hundreds of people to be involved. Kucinich’s running mate was once an ECOT employee, so it’s *technically bipartisan but they’re not really Democrats so I’m not sure it counts.

  24. 24
    p.a. says:

    @WereBear: Vonnegut? I’d say plot by Kafka, characters by Cheech & Chong.

  25. 25
    Baud says:

    @rikyrah:

    Because everything is turning to shit.

  26. 26
    JPL says:

    @Kay: Of course they will.

  27. 27

    @Baud: That’s what Shit Midas does.

  28. 28
    debbie says:

    @Zinsky:

    They would do well to remember they never would have found out about Monica Lewinsky had that investigation remained “narrow.”

  29. 29
    JPL says:

    How long before Trump bans peaceful marches in the name of patriotism?

  30. 30
    debbie says:

    @CarolDuhart2:

    A sheriff’s sale is a foreclosure sale.

  31. 31
    Baud says:

    @JPL: If he does, we’ll march against it.

  32. 32
    debbie says:

    @debbie:

    It’s basically terminology and is based on state foreclosure laws. See if this helps clarify things.

  33. 33
    Gin & Tonic says:

    As predicted last night, the official Dutch investigation into the MH17 case has concluded that the plane was shot down by a Buk anti-aircraft missile that came from Russia into Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine. This is, of course, no surprise to those of us who have been following the case.

  34. 34
    rikyrah says:

    @JPL:
    Phuck.Outta.Here😠😠

  35. 35
    Schlemazel says:

    @raven:
    “I’m so short I walk out of here without opening this door”
    Seen on a toilet stall door

  36. 36
    Platonailedit says:

    Amazing how the corrupt thugs are trying to corner Mueller, Wray, Rosentein & FBI and seem to be getting away with it.

  37. 37
    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    Between all that and the in-fighting over who will replace Rosenberger, the Ohio GOP is now spectator sport! May it destroy them all!

  38. 38
    Schlemazel says:

    @satby:
    Interesting because Android remembers me here

  39. 39
    debbie says:

    @satby:

    It’s every mobile device. I hope someone’s let Alain know.

  40. 40
    Baud says:

    @Schlemazel: Android didn’t remember me last night.

  41. 41
    debbie says:

    @JPL:

    Didn’t he say in the early days of his administration that the First Amendment should be revisited?

  42. 42
    NotMax says:

    Kilauea update.

    volcano erupted twice more on Wednesday, sending massive ash clouds into the air and blanketing Hawaii’s Big Island as the active volcano continues to wreak havoc across the island. Source

    Also:

    Officials shut down Puna Geothermal shortly after the current eruption began.

    On Tuesday, officials finished stabilizing wells that bring up hot liquid and steam to feed a turbine generator. A team from the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency and the company continued Wednesday to plug the wells to make sure the fluid inside doesn’t move from one part of the well to the other, said Janet Snyder, a spokeswoman for Hawaii County.

    Earlier this month officials removed a flammable gas called pentane from the plant to reduce the chance of explosions. Source

  43. 43
    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    For awhile last night, I didn’t need to retype nym, etc. on my iPad, but then after you started with all your testing, I did have to reenter the info every time. Thanks, Baud! //

    ETA: I don’t think it’s the device; it’s the software.

  44. 44
    satby says:

    @Schlemazel: Kindle uses a bastardized Android called Silk. My Kindle remembers what I put into fields in sites, so it’s about five keystrokes more than just writing my comment, but still I have to do it every time.
    I don’t want to switch to desktop because the mobile site is cleaner, I never got those autoplay ads you all hate. And the print is bigger for us olds.

  45. 45
    Baud says:

    @debbie: You saying I’m Patient Zero.

  46. 46
    satby says:

    @NotMax: You’re not on the big island, right? How is this affecting the other ones? Sounds terrible!

  47. 47
    CarolDuhart2 says:

    @satby: The dwelling is already vacant, and has been for several months. It may be the owner has died (I would have to verify that) and the bank has finally gotten around to having the sale. By the way, I’m nervous. I don’t have good credit, but I am a member of the bank who already has a mortgage with them. I had a lien back in 2011 when the economy collapsed (but I had a harp for the mortgage part). I finally paid it off in 2016 (it was all condo fees-my mortgage I’ve held on with the skin of my teeth at times).

  48. 48
    NotMax says:

    Something which caught the eye.

    A New York state judge has backed a couple’s battle to kick their 30-year-old son out of their home because he has not contributed toward household expenses or helped with chores. Source

    Surely there’s a post the Dolt 45 administration can bestow upon him? //

  49. 49
    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    No, more like you woke the monster.

  50. 50
    Kay says:

    @MSNBC
    Fmr. Trump campaign manager Paul Manfort faces federal court hearing today and his lawyers are arguing that the FBI raid was unlawful.

    Donald Trump’s campaign manager was appearing yesterday on criminal charges and the FBI and the DOJ agreed to meet privately with Donald Trump on the charges against Donald Trump’s employees.

    It isn’t a matter of Trump firing these people anymore. They should resign. They’re terrible. Really bad. Forget Trump- all the people he hired are as bad as he is. None of this would be happening without their terrible decisions.

    If you look at this like layers, as I do, the first layer would be the Trump Adminstration- no help there, they’re all corrupt. Then Congress, majority Party. Same. Now we dropped thru 2 and we’re at 3, which is law enforcement/DOJ. Now they’re gone.

    That leaves courts- (some) judges. They’re 4. The last one. It’s always bad when you get to courts as the last line, but it’s not unusual in systemic corruption situations. In Ohio, for example, no one acted on ECOT until private litigants hired a lawyer and sued the school. That started it. But for it to get to a court as a “last resort” all the other layers had to fail. And they did. One by one.

  51. 51
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie:

    They would do well to remember they never would have found out about Monica Lewinsky had that investigation remained “narrow.”

    They do remember, that’s why they want it narrowed.

  52. 52
    Anne Laurie says:

    @WereBear:

    If I have to be in a Kurt Vonnegut satiric novel, why can’t it be the one with the alien who communicates by farting and tap-dancing?

    “Farting & tap-dancing” sounds a lot like Donny Dollhands on camera, actually. Maybe he & his momma share that weird hairstyle because she didn’t actually immigrate from… Scotland?

  53. 53
    JPL says:

    @Kay: But they stand at sporting events for the national anthem, so all is good. Trump is the biggest grifter.

  54. 54
    Joey Maloney says:

    @NotMax: Big Island Video News is doing a great job covering events in Lower Puna up close. I check them every morning to see if my family in [thankfully, the other side of] Puna are blowed up yet.

  55. 55
    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    It’s amazing how thorough the ECOT corruption was. They bought every big Republican in the state, down to county prosecutors. They cannot run someone who is unconnected to the scandal- they’re all connected to it.

    You would think the Ohio GOP would diversify. Hold a couple of politicians back in case there’s a raid. The original ECOT lawsuit got to the Ohio Supreme Court in 2005 and there’s an extensive record there. It was clear THEN it was just a matter of time before they got busted. The stuff was crazy- a web of LLC’s all run by the founder, his wife, and his daughter. They were taking in tens of millions in state dollars and it was a family business. It wasn’t even “complex”- it was “set up LLC, all money goes to this family”.

  56. 56
    NotMax says:

    Hoocudanode? (Answer: anyone with half a brain.)

    Trump is already backtracking on the China trade agreement, days after celebrating the deal

    Just four days after celebrating a preliminary trade agreement with China, President Donald Trump is signaling a potential reverse in course.

    In a tweet Wednesday morning, Trump suggested a final deal with China would need to be substantially altered from the initial agreement. Source

    satby

    Different island, well removed. Although have noticed that am coughing more frequently. Honolulu (Oahu) is about twice as far away as we are on Maui.

    Eastern side of the Big Island (Hawaii county) is directly affected. (Big island is, well, big.) Have seen mention that cruise ships are now going to reinstate stops at Hilo, though, which is on the east side, a tell of prevailing winds blowing stuff either inland or (more rarely) northward..

  57. 57
    Baud says:

    @NotMax:
    @Joey Maloney:

    I try to keep the people hurt by this in mind, but I have to admit, the images from the eruption has been awe-inspiring.

  58. 58
    Baud says:

    @NotMax:

    Answer: anyone with half a brain

    So half the country.

  59. 59
    NotMax says:

    @NotMax

    Bad linky above on Dolt 45/China snippet. Fix.

    Source

  60. 60
    TS (the original) says:

    I love Peter Souza – saying with pictures what the political media refuses to admit.

  61. 61
    Baud says:

    I’m glad that NBA player in Milwaukee wasn’t killed.

  62. 62
    Anne Laurie says:

    @NotMax:

    A New York state judge has backed a couple’s battle to kick their 30-year-old son out of their home because he has not contributed toward household expenses or helped with chores.

    There is, IMO, some kind of backstory there which hasn’t been in the press yet. His parents say if he needed move-out money, he could sell “some of his weapons”. Guy tells the judge he has “a business” which will make him self-supporting in a mere three months or so, if the old folks weren’t being so unreasonable — but he won’t describe it, because “my business is my business”.

    Probably just another would-be Master of the Universe with a bitcoin scam investment, but were I his parents, I’d worry about some kind of illicit drug/gun/godsonlyknow Silk Road dealing too. Kid gets busted under their roof, even if they’ve done their best not to know what he’s doing, quite possibly the federales can confiscate it & they’ll be homeless while he’s getting three colds & a bunk in a greybar hotel.

    Not to mention the possibility they’re afraid their kid has wandered far enough from consensus reality that he’ll decide to use those weapons to go out in a blaze of… publicity. Too many stories in the local papers about no-longer-teenage offspring, diagnosed mentally ill or not, who don’t get stopped before they murder someone — quite often their aging parents.

  63. 63
    JPL says:

    @Baud: I’m glad he is going to sue the Milwaukee Police Department. Enough is enough.

  64. 64
    Schlemazel says:

    @Baud:
    I don’t use my phone often but never had a problem. that is weird

  65. 65
    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    You don’t take precautions when you’re not feeling threatened. I’m so hoping the GOP’s comeuppance has arrived.

  66. 66
    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    I think it’s really bad for DeWine. It hasn’t really been raised yet but the question is going to become why he did no law enforcement. Why there were no state cases. He has a state police force and a state investigatory team. They have really broad jurisdiction. ECOT operated in every county. It should have been handed off from the county prosecutor long ago, because that money was taken from every school district in the state. They were harmed. Keeping it at the location of the headquarters is really strange. It’s almost the definition of a state case, yet it wasn’t one. There’s the auditor action and the state department of ed action and then there’s…a county prosecutor? The AG belongs in that third slot- state, state, state. But they were mysteriously missing. It stinks to high heaven.

  67. 67
    Baud says:

    @Kay: You’ll like this. Stacey Abrams on Chris Hayes last night said she was going to put less money into TV ads and more into on-the-ground organizing. If it works, it can be a model for other Dems.

  68. 68
    rikyrah says:

    @Kay:

    Manafort ‘s attorney is going to have to testify against him.

  69. 69
    rikyrah says:

    @JPL:
    Sue them😠😠

  70. 70
    danielx says:

    @JPL:

    Sort of surprised he hasn’t tried already.

  71. 71
    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Anne Laurie: But Anne, he does his own laundry so it’s all OK. (seriously, he stated that as tho it counted in his favor) I am solidly against the corporal punishment of children, but in his case I’d make an exception and say they probably should have.

  72. 72
    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    The other “hero” in this (well, he did his job) is the director of the Ohio Dept of Ed. The only reason he was in there was Kasich’s team all had to flee for cooking the books on charter enrollment. They got caught and they all quit. That’s how he came to be, as a replacement for the Kasich crook who all of a sudden wanted to spend more time with his family. So we had a lucky break there. If the first layer of corruption hadn’t have been uncovered we never would have reached the state-wide scandal.

  73. 73
    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    It hasn’t really been raised yet but the question is going to become why he did no law enforcement.

    I can help with this. DeWine’s turned into a Pandering Harpy. He was too focused on shrieking about steam-cooking babies to care about ECOT, and it’s bitten him in his butt. DeWine’s pivot to newfound Trumpian Conservatism will end his career. Good riddance.

  74. 74
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @rikyrah: Well, his son-in-law has flipped already, so bad times ahead for Paulie. I couldn’t be happier. I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.

  75. 75
    WereBear says:

    @Kay: Your stories only reinforce what is becoming clearer and clearer: as the Republican party faded as an actual political party, it became a criminal enterprise.

    The only drawback I can see is how the Witness Protection program — because this is begging to be treated as the biggest RICO case ever — might just put a slimy Republican in OUR backyards…

  76. 76
    debbie says:

    @Kay:

    We can thank the Auditor, Dave Yost, for his persistence, yet it turns out he’s not exactly squeaky clean himself. This is how deep the rot has gone. They all have to go.

  77. 77
    Elizabelle says:

    @Anne Laurie: At least the soon to be evictee is not slacker-ass Obamacare pajama boy:

    Time magazine: 30-Year-Old Who Was Evicted by Parents Says He’s Not a Millennial Because He’s Conservative

    “I would say that I’m really not a member of that demographic that they’re speaking to,” [Michael] Rotondo said about millennials. “I’m a very conservative person. The millennials that they’re speaking to are very liberal in their ideology. “

    While there may be some variation in how different people define the Millennial generation, the most commonly used definition—and the one recently decided on by Pew Research Center— includes anyone born between 1981 and 1996. This would also include Rotondo.

    When Baldwin pointed this out to him, he said “You’re right,” but added: “But when people speak to the millennials and their general nature as a millennial, they speak to more liberal leanings.”

  78. 78
    Kay says:

    @Baud:

    I like her. I think people will feel good about backing her, which I think is really important as a contrast to how mean-spirited and petty Trump and his low quality hires are. Base Democrats will hate this, because we’re all jackals, but nice people are winning over Trumpism. The Virginia and Alabama pols won basically because they weren’t horrible, mean assholes.

    Maybe Michelle O was right, but a little ahead of the cycle. Maybe it IS “go high”. That’s my sense anyway. People want to think they’re good people. Not the Trump base, but people in general. That’s why Republicans are whining so much – the complaints come down to “we’re good! We demand you say we’re good people!”

  79. 79
    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle:

    He’s also not a millennial because he no longer lives with his parents. 😛😛😛

  80. 80
    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    No, Yost is in it up to his neck. Yost also has a police force. The auditor has an enforcement arm. They raid public schools. They raided Columbus Public Schools in 2012. Yet. They never raided ECOT.

    Charters are state schools- that’s what charter means- it’s a contract between the STATE (not a local entity) and a school contractor. County auditors regulate public schools, but charters aren’t under county jurisidction. It HAS to be the state. There’s no other entity authorized to regulate them. So Yost is in worse shape than DeWine. It was his job DIRECTLY.

  81. 81
    Baud says:

    @Kay:

    Maybe Michelle O was right, but a little ahead of the cycle.

    I hope so, but there will never be justice for Hillary.

    That’s why Republicans are whining so much – the complaints come down to “we’re good! We demand you say we’re good people!”

    Agree.

  82. 82
    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: Sometimes that is the only recourse. Because of Trump continually causing chaos, that is not receiving the Media time it deserves. CBS did have that story on before Trump’s defaming peaceful protests at NFL games. MSM needs to point out that the reason Kaepernick knelt in the first place was to point out the injustice that blacks receive at the hands of so called authority figures.

  83. 83
    Baud says:

    @JPL: Today show did a good job with that this morning. Even tied it with the NBA players arrest in Milwaukee.

  84. 84
    rikyrah says:

    @Anne Laurie:
    Yeah, you caught that too.
    He ain’t got no job.
    How the phuck does he have WEAPONS-PLURAL?!😠😠

    His parents better watch their backs.

  85. 85
    germy says:

    @Elizabelle:

    “I would say that I’m really not a member of that demographic that they’re speaking to,” [Michael] Rotondo said about millennials. “I’m a very conservative person. The millennials that they’re speaking to are very liberal in their ideology. “

    Ahh, so he’s a conservative. I see.

    He’s all about self reliance, then.

  86. 86
    rikyrah says:

    @Baud:she seems to be about finding voters. And, doesn’t have much of an interest in reaching out to Dolt45 voters.👏👏👏

  87. 87
    germy says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    His parents say if he needed move-out money, he could sell “some of his weapons”.

    Somehow I fear this will not end well.

  88. 88
    JPL says:

    @Baud: Good!

  89. 89
    Kay says:

    @debbie:

    There should be (will be, unless Trump has completely corrupted them) federal charges in ECOT. For bigger school corruption cases there always are, because about 10% of the money they pocketed and ran thru those LLC’s in their half-assed attempt at “laundering” is federal funds. It could be as much as 50% depending on the income bracket the students are in. If every county is like my county the majority of the ECOT students were low income. We had a juvenile judge here who had had it with this bullshit. He started ordering them to go to school. Show up at a school. Because they were disappearing – no one was supervising them and they’d end up in his court. The first inquiry is always truancy- why weren’t they in school? He’s a rage man and I’d see his forehead start to redden the minute they said “online school”. They don’t realize he hears this again and again and again, so they don’t understand why he’d explode. They assume they’re the only one saying this. It’s really unfair to them because they have no idea they’re walking into this mess that enrages him.

  90. 90
    rikyrah says:

    @Elizabelle:
    He is a conservative?
    Then pull your muthaphuckin’azz up by your bootstraps 😠😠

  91. 91
    Peale says:

    @NotMax: he got his $500 m in financing. Then tried to crow about a “breakthrough” deal that wasn’t so much a deal as an agreement that everything would stay the way it was. I think he thinks it a win because he extorted money from them.

  92. 92
    oldgold says:

    @CarolDuhart2:

    2 things:

    The mortgagee (bank) will almost always bid the judgment amount (the full balance owing on note plus costs of foreclosure).

    Check to see if the Sheriff sale is with or without a redemption period. The redemption period is the time the mortgagor (borrower) has to stay in the property and clear up the judgment debt.

    In most cases you are better off allowing bank to reclaim the property and then negotiating to purchase from the bank.

  93. 93
    A Ghost To Most says:

    Peter King is letting his complicit flag fly on CNN right now.

  94. 94
    clay says:

    @NotMax:

    rump is already backtracking on the China trade agreement, days after celebrating the deal

    Just four days after celebrating a preliminary trade agreement with China, President Donald Trump is signaling a potential reverse in course.

    In a tweet Wednesday morning, Trump suggested a final deal with China would need to be substantially altered from the initial agreement.

    If China pays any attention to our domestic news, then they would’ve seen Trump do his “I’ll sign any DACA deal, no I’m not signing any of those DACA deals” shtick. So they shouldn’t be surprised.

  95. 95
    JPL says:

    @A Ghost To Most: He sounded desperate.

  96. 96
    Jeffro says:

    @JPL: Hope those NFL owners are happy! They sure found a great way to resolve the issue! Awesome job, NFL owners! Perhaps the players should be put into shackles until game time, and put back in shackles immediately following the final whistle!

    Fucking assholes. You can’t placate a monster and you shouldn’t even try.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    Your periodic reminder that Minnesota’s junior senator is invisible and the Senate’s best voice against nascent fascism – Al Franken – is gone because of the purity crusade of #MeToo.

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    Jeffro says:

    Wow, in addition to being part of the GREAT SCHOOL SAFETY DEBATE (moar gunz 4 techers! harden our schoolz! buckets o’ rocks 4 everyone! single entrance/exit sheeple!!) now public schools also get to fight Betsy DeVos’ latest bit of “astounding ignorance” – she thinks it’s okay to call ICE on undocumented students which, by law, the schools have to serve.

    Civil rights groups slammed Education Secretary Betsy DeVos for saying Tuesday that schools can decide whether to report undocumented students to immigration enforcement officials, saying her statements conflict with the law and could raise fears among immigrant students.

    DeVos’s answers came during testimony before the House Committee on Education and the Workforce. Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D-N.Y.), an immigrant from the Dominican Republic who was at one time undocumented, pressed the secretary for her positions on immigration enforcement.

    “Inside the school,” Espaillat asked, “if a principal or a teacher finds out that a certain child is undocumented, or his or her family members are undocumented, do you feel that the principal or teacher is responsible to call [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and to have that family reported?”

    Sir, I think that’s a school decision,” DeVos responded. “That’s a local community decision. And again, I refer to the fact that we have laws and we also are compassionate, and I urge this body to do its job and address or clarify where there is confusion around this.”

    Not so, say civil rights groups. The Supreme Court made clear in Plyler v. Doe that public schools have a constitutional obligation to provide schooling for children, regardless of immigration status. That means schools also cannot enforce measures that would deter undocumented children from registering. They cannot ask about immigration status. And according to the American Civil Liberties Union, they cannot report students or their families to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    WRONG, Betsy Know-Nothing. Just fucking wrong. It’s not a school or local community decision, and it doesn’t need any goddamn clarification, either.

    You’d think that even the most cynical of wingers could do the math and understand that for the fucking bargain price of educating a kid through K-12, society gets back vastly more in terms of productivity and taxes. I know they don’t want people going to college but who in the world wants undocumented kids NOT getting a basic education (including learning English and American history)? It’s unbelievable.

    She really has turned out to be one of the top two, maybe three, absolute shit picks in this maladministration (and that is saying something)

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    germy says:

    Florida Man strikes again.

    ‘Get Out of My Country’: Florida Man Arrested after Attacking Men with Knife, Stun Gun at McDonald’s

    On Wednesday, the St. Johns County Sheriff’s Office arrested 60-year-old John Jay Smith after he went on a racist rant, while armed, against two men whom he believed to be Muslim or of Middle Eastern descent outside of a local McDonalds.

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    JPL says:

    @Jeffro: It sad that she didn’t take civic classes in a public school.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    So we’re not even doing the “Stuart Smalley was set up” thing anymore? Just straight up “lie back and think of England the ACA, bitch”?

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    germy says:

    @Jeffro:

    moar gunz 4 techers!

    Hillary Clinton warned us. During one of the debates she said “He wants guns in schools”

    The villagers chuckled at that one.

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    Zinsky says:

    @debbie: So true, debbie!

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    Peale says:

    @clay: The Chinese are fine with the status quo, thank you very much. The more times he renegotiates and goes back on deals, the more satisfied they will be. They also know that the point of these negotiations is to humiliate them. That was obvious from that stupid list of “demands” that were handed over at the end of the first round. They might as well have demanded that the Chinese accept opium imports…My guess in the end of these talks, Trump will end up with nothing but the kissing Chinese equivalent to kissing a ring on a middle finger.

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    Aleta says:

    Suggested NYT headline, article:
    Pence is Stupid
    blah blah blah
    blab di doo dah
    two more lines
    etc etc Says official in NK.

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    GregB says:

    I assuming it is becoming clear to every world leader that an agreement with Trump is worthless.

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    GregB says:

    I assume.

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    KithKanan says:

    I know they don’t want people going to college but who in the world wants undocumented kids NOT getting a basic education (including learning English and American history)? It’s unbelievable.

    @Jeffro: Having watched in horror as 58.93% of California voters said they wanted exactly that in 1994, far more people than you would think. I was in one of the only 8 (of 58) counties that voted against.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @JPL: I saw a clip on Morning Joe where Trump trashes the protesting NFL players and said they shouldn’t be here. Fascist scum.

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    Jeffro says:

    @germy: So far I think Hillz’ predictions about Trumpov have come 110% true…where’s the story on that, NYT? Or they can give the Obamas credit for their takes on him, I don’t care either way. The point is, the Democrats from HRC and PBO on down were RIGHT: the guy is scum and Putin’s puppet and his supporters are in fact deplorable.

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    Xenos says:

    @CarolDuhart2:Is Missouri a title-theory or lien-theory state?

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    JPL says:

    @Patricia Kayden: Someone needs to follow up and say who else should not be in our country.

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    Jeffro says:

    @KithKanan: It is the dumbest possible thing they could be advocating AND it happens to be unconstitutional (oh, that…)

    And yet, like everything else about the Spite Gang, it makes sense: anything, anything at all to hate on people of color and keep them down.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Kay:

    I hope that Cordray nails DeWine through this scandal

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    H.E.Wolf says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
    Your periodic reminder that Minnesota’s junior senator is invisible […]

    A periodic reminder that women are often deemed invisible when in fact their accomplishments are being ignored or under-reported.

    [Note: I too was totally unaware of Sen. Smith’s recent record until I went looking. It’s an across-the-board problem.]

    https://www.smith.senate.gov/

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    JPL says:

    I think Democratic members need to go to the White House, and demand to be part of the intel meeting this morning.

    or what Schumer said.
    Schumer: “While it’s a good thing that the Gang of Eight will be briefed, the separate meeting with a known partisan whose only intent is to undermine the Mueller investigation… should be called off. What is the point of the separate briefing if not to cause partisan trouble?”

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    Aleta says:

    @H.E.Wolf: Thanks.

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    rikyrah says:

    @WereBear:

    @Kay: Your stories only reinforce what is becoming clearer and clearer: as the Republican party faded as an actual political party, it became a criminal enterprise.

    no lie told

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    CarolDuhart2 says:

    its Ohio.

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    KithKanan says:

    @Jeffro: Far too many people (particularly but not exclusively white) only think in terms of “taking our money and giving it to them” and not about what we as a society gain from that. Completely zero-sum thinking. If it’s raising them up, it must be dragging me down.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Jeffro:

    WRONG, Betsy Know-Nothing. Just fucking wrong. It’s not a school or local community decision, and it doesn’t need any goddamn clarification, either.

    I loathe this heifer.

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    Platonailedit says:

    When one political party loses its mind and the other doesn’t it is not your responsibility to be “even handed” or to pretend not to see what is happening. We should not split the difference as a country and become half-crazy.— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) May 23, 2018

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    Platonailedit says:

    You are not required to literally use the words that the President uses. You are not required to carry his message far and wide when it’s propaganda. You are not required to treat a lie like a live controversy.— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) May 24, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    @germy:
    THEY.ARE.OUT.OF.CONTROL.

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    Platonailedit says:

    After MLK Jr. was assassinated, Congress passed the Fair Housing Act of 1968 as a way of honoring his legacy.Five years later, Donald Trump was sued — by the Nixon administration, no less! — for violating that very same act. https://t.co/IFNTXzPIhy— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) May 23, 2018

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @Chyron HR:

    Currently, Jason Bateman is getting burnt to the ground by #MeToo for being insufficiently deferential to Jessica Walter’s teary description of some angry meltdown Tambor had on set, when he shouted at her (wasn’t sexual harassment, just anger). I find this ironic, given her most recent and successful character portrayals are of irredeemably angry and corrupt women.

    Apparently, all male actions, reactions, responses and interpretations of events and incidents must be approved by a team of aggrieved womyns’ studies sophomore ovinar organizers.

    If a man has a view on something or an interpretation of an event and there’s no #MeToo activist around to criticize his privilege or direct his response, is he still wrong?

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    Aleta says:

    @JPL: I fear young thugs will follow his advice by beating up school kids who didn’t stand up in the bleachers at a JV game. Or kids whose parents spoke out.

    In the end, he’s trying to legitimize attacks on protesters in the coming months. Branding himself patriotic; and those opposing him as deserving punishment.

    I hope the NFL brand takes a big hit over this.

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    JPL says:

    @Aleta: Trump is a fascist who wants to cheer the U.S. of Russia.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @H.E.Wolf:

    That’s minimal backbench Senating, and doesn’t include the things Franken had in abundance – presence, a rapier wit and the ability to query and criticize on the fly.

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    TS (the original) says:

    @GregB:

    I assuming it is becoming clear to every world leader that an agreement with Trump is worthless

    Given that trump has overturned agreements made by President Obama, you can modify that to say “An agreement with the USA is worthless”.

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    rikyrah says:

    Forever FLOTUS 😍
    And her new book 😄
    That cover photo 😍😍

    https://twitter.com/MichelleObama/status/999644897958420481?s=19

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    GregB says:

    President Shitheel cancels NK meeting.

    I assume he is now on Ebay selling those shitty tokens at a higher price.

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    japa21 says:

    Summit cancelled by Trump.

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    JPL says:

    @rikyrah: I wish it was released before the election. The cover is beautiful!

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    Trump’s kind of guy:

    Deadspin reports: “..According to the police report, here’s what happened: Dykstra hailed an Uber early this morning, then requested to change his destination. The driver, a 47-year-old man, refused. Dykstra then put a gun to the driver’s head and threatened to kill him. The driver had an ace up his sleeve, however: He simply sped straight to a garage attached to Linden Police Department headquarters, alerting officers by honking his horn repeatedly, then stopped out front of police HQ.
    Cops found no weapon when they arrested Dykstra, but they did allegedly find marijuana, cocaine and ecstasy. Dykstra told the New York Daily News that, contrary to a police report and press release, he was not actually arrested. He also blamed the driver for the incident.

    “The guy went nuclear on me,” Dykstra told the paper. “He fucking kidnapped me and almost killed me going 100 mph. He locked me in his fucking car, and he wouldn’t let me out.”.

    Word-for-word, does anyone doubt that’s exactly what Trump would have said?

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    Whoah!

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @japa21: There goes that Nobel.

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    Trump suggested a final deal with China would need to be substantially altered from the initial agreement

    So, what did the word “agreement” mean then?

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    NotMax says:

    @japa21 – @GregB

    The best negotiator.

    ;)

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    Yutsano says:

    @No Drought No More: Nope. Too coherent for Dolt45.

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    D58826 says:

    That letter sounds like one I would write to tell a merchant that I was dissatisfied with his product, I was returning said product and would not be doing business with him again.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Jeffro:

    I know they don’t want people going to college but who in the world wants undocumented kids NOT getting a basic education (including learning English and American history)?

    Trump has cultivated a zero tolerance policy on immigration. Since undocumented people are not “supposed” to be here, they don’t deserve anything, and every service they get is stealing from “real Americans.”

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    They can go in the vault with all the Infrastructure Week coins. Those have really been piling up.

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    @Cheryl Rofer: Holy shit.

    So, Trump supporters, how’s that great deal maker working out for you?

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    JPL says:

    @No Drought No More: hmmm Did they use a taser on him, or leave him with scratches and bruises.

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    NotMax says:

    @Brachiator

    Tomorrow’s tweets today:

    “It’s obvious there’s NO point in sending animals to School. Waste of time and money.”

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    Brachiator says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Trump has canceled the June 12 summit with Kim Jong Un.

    Wait. What? Really?

    It will be fun to see how right wing dopes find a way to show how this proves how strong Trump is.

    ETA. Weird. My identifying info disappeared and I had to re-enter it.

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    germy says:

    @Brachiator: There’s a check box that lets balloon-juice save your identifying info.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Brachiator:

    My identifying info disappeared and I had to re-enter it.

    This is a known problem on the mobile version of the site since upgrades were done yesterday. No fix as yet, although Alain has contacted the relevant code monkeys.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @germy:

    The check box appears only on the desktop version of the site. The problem is with the mobile version.

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    rikyrah says:

    @No Drought No More:

    Fast thinking by the driver.

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    Brachiator says:

    @NotMax:

    “It’s obvious there’s NO point in sending animals to School. Waste of time and money.”

    Trump is vile, but consistent. From DACA to deporting people here with temporary visas, Trump doesn’t care what people have done or what they have contributed. If they don’t “belong” here, they count as nothing.

    This is Trump’s America.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Jeffro: For them everything is zero sum. If your kid gets educated, my kid loses.

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    Aleta says:

    @Brachiator: It will be fun to see how right wing dopes find a way to show how this proves how strong Trump is.

    Preemptive Break Up

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    Aleta says:

    @GregB: Like failed postage stamps, their value as collectables has already shot up! Another genius move.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    she thinks it’s okay to call ICE on undocumented students which, by law, the schools have to serve.

    @Jeffro: ICE has already gone one better. I live in the magic 100-mile zone near the border that somehow allows ICE to do whatever the fuck they want to, so a few months ago they just parked outside of every elementary school in the county.

    Like magic, the “undocumented” kids aren’t going to school anymore.

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    Aleta says:

    @Steeplejack: @Steeplejack: As always, thanks for the lucid explanations.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Aleta: There is something beautifully haiku-like in that proposed headline rendering. Perhaps I could interest you in writing the headlines for my newsletter? ; )

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: I can’t believe that even Donald Trump could be this fucking disastrous a parody of himself. This has *got* to be Andy Borowitz or someone else, right?

    As the old country song put it: “They call me Cleopatra…cause I’m the Queen of Denial.”

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Aleta:

    Thank you!

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    Jeffro says:

    @Miss Bianca: What’s surprising is that Fox News dot com has the actual, full letter up for their readers to peruse. Then again, the letter is probably a better effort than 90% of Fox viewers could manage…they’ll think Trumpov is some kind of master wordsmith in addition to all his other superhuman talents.

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    HILFY says:

    How can “Shade” be Amazon best seller when they don’t have a page for it yet? Grrrr.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Baud:

    I hope so, but there will never be justice for Hillary

    Well, partly… But she will always have her daughter and grandchildren, be a beloved leader, and live well. Wife and I often toast when beginning dinner: “To living well!” which is after all what we aspire to.

    The FBI isn’t going through our papers, really, we’re better off than Trump and all his minions. So is Hillary!

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    catclub says:

    @debbie: Either Ohio is a hotbed for corrupt charter schools, or Ohio actually has the Best enforcement of law against
    charter school
    corruption and therefore gets the most reporting of corrupt charter schools. so even the best case is still bad.

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    J R in WV says:

    @rikyrah:

    “I loathe this heifer.”

    Now, now, rikyrah, don’t be nasty to the pretty cows.

    Heifers are really good at being milk cows, they make the most wonderful milk and cream, they give us ice cream too. Don’t call DeVos a heifer, that’s nasty to the poor cows, who can’t help how bad Betsy DeVos is.

    If you care for your heifer, wash her and be with her, she will be your friend, and produce more milk than you can possibly ever use. You will give milk to your cats, dogs, pigs, neighbors and friends, make yogurt, butter, cheeses, and still sometimes pour our milk you just couldn’t get around to doing something with.

    Betsy De Vos, on the other hand, will only take. No matter what.

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    WereBear says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Currently, Jason Bateman is getting burnt to the ground by #MeToo for being insufficiently deferential to Jessica Walter’s teary description of some angry meltdown Tambor had on set, when he shouted at her (wasn’t sexual harassment, just anger).

    That does it. You are a sexist ass who doesn’t get it. In danger of being pied.

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    debbie says:

    @catclub:

    I know you’re long gone, but the answer is that it’s the most blantant here. There was a charter school near where I lived that disappeared overnight, along with millions of dollars worth of computers (back in the late 1990s). ECOT not only refused to return the money they hadn’t earned, they used some of the money to run political ads demanding Ohio stop persecuting them!

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    Groucho48 says:

    @Aleta:

    I’ve seen…Trump pretended to negotiate until the “hostages” were released, then, walked away with a win.

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