Today In Rudys Giuliani! Or Is That Rudy Giulianis? Either Way…

Earlier today CNN viewers got to witness Rudy Giuliani attempting to explain and clarify to Chris Cuomo that what Rudy Giuliani had said to someone else was not what Rudy Giuliani actually said. Then Cuomo played a clip of Rudy Giuliani telling Charlie Rose something different and then another clip of Rudy Giuliani contradicting what Rudy Giuliani told Charlie Rose in an interview with George Stephanapolous. At which point Rudy Giuliani start screaming at Chris Cuomo. So that was a quatro-Guiliani appearance!

Just to make sure everyone is tracking:

  1. Rudy Giuliani is on Chris Cuomo’s CNN show explaining that what Cuomo understands Rudy Giuliani said on a different cable show is not accurate.
  2. Chris Cuomo then plays a clip of Rudy Giuliani explaining to Charlie Rose in 1998 that a sitting president, in this case President Clinton, is not above the law and is subject to a Federal grand jury subpoena.
  3. Chris Cuomo then plays a clip of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani by explaining to George Stephanapolous that a sitting president, in this case the current President, is above the law and not subject to a Federal grand jury subpoena.
  4. Rudy Giuliani then freaks out and starts screaming at Chris Cuomo that it is unfair to ambush Rudy Giuliani with one video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani and then a second video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani.

I’m still working the theoretical explanation out in this brave new world and emerging area of inquiry into multiple Rudys Giuliani or Rudy Giulianis (Rudys Giulianis?). I’m not sure if this is a purely infinite number of Rudy sort of thing – the InfiniRudy – or if there us a hard limit. Say DC Comics 52 parallel universes in the multiverse. That, of course, would include the Earth-3 universe where Rudy would be a quiet, pleasant, highly competent individual and Special Counsel Mueller would be an obnoxious, ignorant, raving blowhard.

I need to order more white boards from Amazon!

Play nice or a Rudy Giuliani will come over to your house and explain to you that what Rudy Giuliani said on a cable news show or to a reporter doesn’t mean what you think Rudy Giuliani meant when Rudy Giuliani said it.

Open thread!

175 replies
  1. 1
    Manyakitty says:

    Rudies Giuliani. Also, too, thanks for my first genuine lol in a whole.

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    Ruckus says:

    Play nice or a Rudy will visit?
    Damn that’s harsh. Really, really fucking harsh.
    Mom never, ever, never threatened anything that bad would happen if I did or didn’t do something. No one in the military ever did either. A Rudy in the house? Damn I’d have to burn the place down to at least attempt to keep that from happening again.

  3. 3
    EBT says:

    Two different people liked every tweet in an 80 tweet long story I posted.

  4. 4
    rikyrah says:

    Seth Abramson
    ‏Verified account @SethAbramson

    BREAKING: The FBI is illegally leaking to Team Trump once again—just as it did pre-election. Giuliani told CNN he heard from people “gone from the FBI” that the FBI had two Trump campaign sources. This looks to be the *same* FBI-to-ex-FBI leak chain Giuliani used in October 2016.

  5. 5
    rikyrah says:

    Bobby Lewis @revrrlewis

    “normal looking kid”
    “standout player” in football
    “honor student”
    “even wanted to join the US marine corps”

    can we please stop showing the angelic side of the asshole who just murdered ten people and shot another ten. nobody fucking cares about his football skills.
    2:50 PM – May 18, 2018

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    LongHairedWeirdo says:

    Oh, wow. CNN finally learned *something* from The Daily Show. Why did it take them so long? I wonder if other news teams might pick it up?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @EBT: Congrats!

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    rikyrah says:

    Ben Collins
    ‏Verified account @oneunderscore__
    1h1 hour ago

    New: Facebook confirmed to me it deleted Dimitrios Pagourtzis’ Instagram account shortly after the shooting.

    The account followed 13 pages.

    Eight were gun fan pages. The first four were Donald Trump, Ivanka, Melania and The White House.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @rikyrah: 1) Seth Abramson, so nuff said about that source. 2) Giuliani is nuts, so either he was talking to Kallstrom on the phone again or he just made the whole thing up.

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    dmsilev says:

    I’m still working the theoretical explanation out in this brave new world and emerging area of inquiry into multiple Rudys Giuliani or Rudy Giulianis (Rudys Giulianis?).

    Adam, as a trained and certified quantum mechanic, I’m here to help. You see, Rudy is a manifestation of a quantum chaotic system, where well-defined positions are almost by definition unstable and change essentially randomly on a microsecond timescale. There are ways of overcoming this issue; we need to start by cooling Rudy down to 100 nK via high-vacuum laser-trap systems, polarizing his spin with a large magnetic field, and finally watching that spin evolve after kicking it with a strong microwave pulse.

    We have the technology.

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    rikyrah says:

    Meghan Markle Did Ask Doria Ragland To Walk Her Down The Aisle, Claims Royal ExpertMeghan Markle Did Ask Doria Ragland To Walk Her Down The Aisle, Claims Royal Expert
    18/05/2018

    Although many royal fans predicted (and secretly hoped) that Meghan Markle’s mother Doria Ragland would walk Meghan down the aisle in the absence of her father Thomas, it was the pressure of performing the duty in front of millions of people and the media scrutiny which ultimately deterred them, according to a royal expert.

    Given the intense scrutiny Thomas has been subjected to over the past few weeks, it’s completely understandable that Meghan and Doria decided against it.

    It’s also claimed that it was Prince Harry who suggested that his father Prince Charles step in because of his experience of royal events which he hopes will put Meghan at ease.

    Speaking to Harper’s Bazaar UK, royal journalist Larcombe divulged: ‘I’m told that it was Harry who suggested asking his father if he would step into the breach.

    ‘Doria and Meghan discussed it but she just didn’t feel she could go through with it. According to the guidence I’ve been given, Meghan felt that it would be too much to expect her mother to perform such an important role when more than one billion people are expected to be watching.’

    Discussing the advantages of Prince Charles giving her away – such as his calming influence – Larcombe continued: ‘There are few people on the planet who are more experienced than Prince Charles when it comes to set piece events like this.

    https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a20742012/meghan-markle-mother-doria-ragland-walk-down-aisle-royal-expert/

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    Feebog says:

    How many times do you have to shoot yourself in the foot before there’s no foot left?

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    I would like to be in the time line where Rudy Giuliani is the mostly forgotten leader of a big band whose signature tune was “America’s Mayor” (a brief hit in 1938).

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @rikyrah: Pretty much the same social media/online footprint as the Stoneman Douglas shooter.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @dmsilev:

    we need to start by cooling Rudy down to 100 nK via high-vacuum laser-trap systems, polarizing his spin with a large magnetic field, and finally watching that spin evolve after kicking it with a strong microwave pulse.

    I can see the need to cool him to the nK range. At 310K, his spin is evolving far too fast for any technology to follow.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Feebog:

    How many times do you have to shoot yourself in the foot before there’s no foot left?

    Rudy Giuliani is bravely performing this experiment so you don’t have to.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Roger Moore: I know some people with femtosecond lasers. I’m sure some of them could be persuaded to help.

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    delk says:

    Rudy can fail.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Feebog:

    How many times do you have to shoot yourself in the foot before there’s no foot left?

    Protip: Remove the foot from one’s mouth before shooting it. Or, in Rudy’s case, never mind, please proceed Mr. Mayor.

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    rikyrah says:

    UH huh

    Uh huh

    Jonathan Greenblatt
    ‏Verified account @JGreenblattADL

    Patrick Little, an anti-Semite & racist who attended the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, is running for Senate. His supporters have taken up a disturbing new tactic: virulently anti-Semitic robocalls, which are now targeting Jewish institutions:

    https://twitter.com/JGreenblattADL/status/997575062558593024

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @dmsilev: Something like this?
    https://youtu.be/9ZVzT0zx_pk?t=59s

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    Mary G says:

    @rikyrah:

    New: Facebook confirmed to me it deleted Dimitrios Pagourtzis’ Instagram account shortly after the shooting.The account followed 13 pages.Eight were gun fan pages. The first four were Donald Trump, Ivanka, Melania and The White House.https://t.co/vGek4IeBi7— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) May 18, 2018

    They’ll be claiming he intended to register with the Democratic Party as soon as he turned 18.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    My theory is that Rudy Giuliani is an early model replicant. Only able to live for 2 years before termination to ensure he doesn’t develop any emotions, the Giuliani motor-neural system is copied and placed into a new Giuliani host body. Unfortunately, the motor-neural system, being analog cannot be perfectly copied and therefore it degrades a few percent in each iteration. The current model is at least 15 generations removed from the 1988 Giuliani model. With a 5% degradation with each generation, the current Giuliani retains no more than 46% of the 1988 model, and who knows how many generations existed prior to 1988.

    Trump and Gingrich are similar model replicants. You see, they were never unfaithful to their spouses, those affairs and divorces are simply the byproduct of a new model coming on line not fully aware of what the previous iteration had agreed to. The whole sphere of clone/replicant contract law is going to be hot, I tell you.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steeplejack (phone): Let me make a call!//

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    rikyrah says:

    David Hogg
    ‏Verified account @davidhogg111

    Get ready for two weeks of media coverage of politicians acting like they give a shit when in reality they just want to boost their approval ratings before midterms.
    8:50 AM – 18 May 2018

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    Mike J says:

    Rather than ordering white boards, I think this calls for cork boards and yarn.

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    lgerard says:

    They need to roll out Kellyanne Conway to explain the concept of “Alternate Rudys”

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    Roger Moore says:

    @dmsilev:
    It’s been a while, but I did take p-chem from Ahmed Zewail, so I have some knowledge of femtosecond lasers.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Nah, crossing laser beams is perfectly fine and safe. Now, if I could just ask you to step over here and stand on that bullseye painted on the floor…

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @rikyrah:

    It would have been a great visual if Meghan’s mom had walked her down the aisle, but I can understand that it would freak her out to know that many people were scrutinizing her. Having Prince Charles do it sends a nice message that Meghan is completely accepted by the royal family, IMO.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: They alt-righters, neo-NAZIs, and white supremacists (but I repeat myself) have already done a bunch of fake Facebook pages to make him a HRC supporter:

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Mike J:

    I have yarn. Lots of it.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Mary G:

    They’ll be claiming he intended to register with the Democratic Party as soon as he turned 18.

    There are already fake accounts with Photoshopped pictures of him wearing a “Hillary 2016” hat. The propagandists aren’t wasting any time this time around.

    ETA: I see Adam L Silverman got there ahead of me.

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    MomSense says:

    @rikyrah:

    He seems to be in tight with the Hoover like wing of the FBI. I hope they all end up in jail.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    More seriously, Rudy was always going to blow up because Rudy is already implicated in this whole mess. He’s working for free because he’s trying to save his own ass, not Trumps.

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    rikyrah says:

    K.
    ‏ @ThatPersianGuy

    Snoop talking bout Kanye and the Kardashian curse got me CRYING.

    https://twitter.com/ThatPersianGuy/status/997526021187481600

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    germy says:

    Giuliani didn’t just give it a shot here. He won. The CNN control room decided to allow his objections to drown out their own relevant evidence and then cut off the clip before it was finished.

    Everyone who works at CNN should be embarrassed by this.

    https://t.co/OBby1fOZji— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) May 18, 2018

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    I have yarn. Lots of it.

    Do you want to waste your good yarn on this?

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    rikyrah says:

    Lolly Bowean
    ‏Verified account @lollybowean

    When @BarackObama arrived to meet the Foundation fellows today, he greeted them with handshakes. But he greeted Melissa Malzkuhn @mezmalz in sign language. She wants to give deaf children digital tools.
    4:56 PM – 16 May 2018

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    He’s working for free because he’s trying to save his own ass, not Trumps.

    That explains his willingness to throw Trump under the bus. Only Trump’s notorious cheapness can explain why he’s still on Trump’s team anyway.

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    rikyrah says:

    The Hill

    @thehill

    House committee approves amendment blocking Trump from lifting ban on ZTE http://hill.cm/TO1gc6a
    9:37 AM – May 18, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    Dave Levinthal

    @davelevinthal

    An upstart petition drive by House Republicans to force a vote on “Dreamer” immigration proposals is roiling the party as midterm elections loom https://www.publicintegrity.org/2018/05/18/21769/clash-between-california-gop-daca-vote-deepens-rift-over-trump-policies … — via @susanferriss/@publici
    10:26 AM – May 18, 2018

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: That guy is going places.

    @rikyrah: LOL.

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    Wapiti says:

    Since Giuliani is a politician, not a journalist, I’d think that the FBI or DoJ, if they wanted to, could sit him down and ask for his “ex-FBI” sources, then ask for their “current FBI” sources in turn.

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    germy says:

    Meghan Markle’s White Relatives Are the Messiest of Bitches

    It’s not every day you get to marry a prince, and to have a whole side of your family showing their whole, entire ass to the whole, entire world and attempting to drag you down to their level cannot be easy to watch or tolerate.

    Then again, it is also amazing to me that she’s marrying into the whitest and messiest family of all time (check the history books and do a Google search before you @ me), after dealing with her own white relatives for 36 years. So maybe she doesn’t need that sympathy after all.

    Either which way, good luck, girl, and Godspeed. I wish you nothing but your happily ever after.

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    If we take the theory that Trump is happiest when there is chaos all around him, his choice of Guiliani as his lawyer makes perfect sense.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: Yep.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Roger Moore:

    It’s okay, I have a bunch of Red Heart. That will survive anything but a fire.

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    GxB says:

    Rudy Giuliani then freaks out and starts screaming at Chris Cuomo that it is unfair to ambush Rudy Giuliani with one video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani and then a second video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani.

    And 40% of the electorate (which I’ll guess is ~27% of the total population) sees nothing wrong with this.

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    Quaker in a Basement says:

    @rikyrah: I wish this was Twitter so I could <3 this so hard.

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    MomSense says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Hahahaha!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: @Mike J: @Roger Moore: Here – also at the 2:40 mark:

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Feebog:

    How many times do you have to shoot yourself in the foot before there’s no foot left?

    This question must be from The Lost Lyrics to Bob Dylan’s Blowing In The Wind.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @germy:

    They found out a couple of years ago that William and Harry aren’t quite as English as they thought — they have an Indian ancestor on their mother’s side from the late 1700s.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @MomSense:

    I knew someone would get my yarn joke! 😂

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    rikyrah says:

    Prince Charles to walk Meghan Markle down the aisle
    Lainey
    Posted by Lainey 12: AM May 18, 2018

    Royal wedding week did not get off to a good start with all the Thomas Markle drama. But, as I’ve been saying, the royals know how to carry on…and put on a show. And did they ever turn it around this morning. At around 10am local time here in England, so as to properly dominate the entire day, Kensington Palace released this statement:

    I was hoping that Meghan would walk down the aisle herself but from a strategic maneuver perspective, this is game-changer. Nobody’s talking about the Thomas Markle Zone anymore. And just like that, the royal family has snatched back control of this party. It’s a bonus for all players.

    For Meghan Markle, this is a major show of support from the family she’ll be joining. She’s American, she’s a commoner, she’s divorced, and she’s got a lot of rogue relatives – you know how uppity aristocrats can be and you know there was some judging happening, even before all this sh-t with Thomas Markle and Samantha Markle went down. Now she’s not only marrying the most popular prince of England, the FUTURE KING OF ENGLAND will be greeting her in St George’s Chapel and PERSONALLY HANDING HER OFF TO HIS SON. It’s a big ass seal of approval. It’s a big ass f-cking deal.

    But the biggest winner out of all of this may be…the Prince of Wales himself. Who everyone now sees as the one who has stepped in to save the day and turn a sh-tshow into a brand new story.

    http://www.laineygossip.com/pr.....isle/49935

  57. 57
    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap says:

    Surprise !

    New Evidence Shows the Vegas Shooter Was Probably a Far-Right Extremist but No One Will Say It

    Link

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    They found out a couple of years ago that William and Harry aren’t quite as English as they thought — they have an Indian ancestor on their mother’s side from the late 1700s.

    Hiding any non-white ancestry is a very, very white thing to do.

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    Ruckus says:

    @dmsilev:
    I do like your style.

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    Yarrow says:

    @rikyrah: I wish them all the best. I have a morning event tomorrow and it’s my turn to bring snacks. I got scones, clotted cream and blackcurrant jam and orange marmalade in honor of the wedding.

    Everyone was desperately searching for clotted cream and I got one of the last three jars. The workers at the supermarket were talking to each other about how that was it, no more clotted cream in the back. In the checkout line a woman ahead of me was talking to her friend about how she wanted to get clotted cream but they were out. I was afraid she was going to reach into my basket and take mine when she saw it!

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    germy says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yep

    Avenatti tweeted the entire 1998 interview, uninterrupted.

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    Brachiator says:

    @rikyrah: I’ve been having bouts of insomnia this week. I might actually end up watching the wedding live.

    And who knew that Prince Charles would end up being a good guy.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: I put it in a comment last week or the week before.

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    Shell says:

    Jesus,it’s a friggin’ opera and Rudy is playing all the parts!

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    germy says:

    Texas Republican admits his kids get trust fund money only if they marry another white person

    A former Texas judge running for Dallas County commissioner has admitted that he set up a living trust with a clause that rewards his children for marrying another white person, the Dallas Morning News reports.

    Vickers “Vic” Cunningham, was a judge and is now in a heated run-off election for county commissioner.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/texas-republican-admits-kids-get-trust-fund-money-marry-another-white-person/

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    dmsilev says:

    @Ruckus: One does one’s best.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Feebog: my big laugh of the day. Thank you so very much.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: It’s your trust dumbass, of course you can change it if you want to!

    After Bill Cunningham spoke up, the newspaper to asked Vic Cunningham whether it was true that he’d set up a racist trust fund.

    Cunningham admitted that the trust fund he set up in 2010 has “milestones” which reward his children for marrying another straight white Christian.

    “I strongly support traditional family values,” Cunningham said. “If you marry a person of the opposite sex that’s Caucasian, that’s Christian, they will get a distribution.”

    The payouts aren’t merely theoretical. Cunningham’s son is dating a woman of Vietnamese origin. He claimed he “can’t” change the terms of the trust to not punish his son over this.

    ETA: I’m not referring to germy as a dumbass. I’m referring to this Cunningham dipshit!

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    Quinerly says:

    @Roger Moore: OK. Second big laugh of the day.

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    Quinerly says:

    @dmsilev: third big laugh of the day. I see a theme emerging.

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    germy says:

    @Adam L Silverman: “But it’s an irrevocable trust!”

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    ruemara says:

    @Mary G: They’ve been making fake Facebook pages to try & paint him as a far left, anti-fa, anti-Trump guy, so you’re prescient.

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    @Roger Moore:

    Oh wow! That is truly impressive. I am jealous.

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    MomSense says:

    @rikyrah:

    I think this is not only a show of support for Harry and Meghan, it’s a sign of a confident and modern shift in the monarchy. Harry is probably the most popular royal and has been open about his mental health struggles. And every time I’ve seen him with Queen Elizabeth, you can see the sparkle in her eye that she has for Harry. He has inherited the Prince Philip swagger and charm. I’m not surprised Elizabeth wants to see him happy. She’s going to do everything in her considerable power to make it so.

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    I feel like saying that I can’t believe how fucking stupid these people are. And some of them are indeed cataclysmically stupid. But this shit show here, I think Giuliani knows what he’s doing. He doesn’t give a shit if this makes sense or not. It doesn’t need to make any sense. Chris Cuomo isn’t the guy he needs to con here. I’m not the guy he needs to con here, and 60% of the people in American aren’t the people he needs to con here. He’s telling Manbaby what he wants to hear, and he’s also talking to the 35-40% of people who still think Trump is anything but a corrupt, incompetent, racist clown. He needs them to keep swallowing this horseshit.

    I think maybe what they’ve worked out here is that Trump can hold his office for the time being as long as he has more than a third of the country behind him. He might not hold it for his whole term, but he can hold it for now, and for the next few months to a year. They aren’t thinking about the long haul. They’ll worry about next month next month and worry about next year next year. For now, to hang on today, tomorrow and next week, they need that 35%. If they fall to 25-30%, I think that’s when even these guys know that their time is running out. Everything they’re now doing is meant to hold and harden that 35-40%.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the protocol was to take the bills out of the wallet before throwing the money at the adult entertainers?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: That velcro can really leave a mark.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @germy: Check with our legal fleegles.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @rikyrah:

    Like I was saying, this is a big EFF YOU to all of the haters. The Royal Family is closing ranks around Meghan and making it clear that she is now one of them and they don’t care what anyone else says.

    And to me, this is another manifestation of Charles making it clear that he is not going to even attempt to interfere in his sons’ marriages, because he fucked his own up too badly. He’s going to support Will and Harry 1000 percent no matter what they decide.

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    Quinerly says:

    @MomSense: Did I dream this or what… a few years back, wasn’t it the rumor that Harry wasn’t even Charles’s son?

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    @rikyrah: As I mentioned the other day, his occupation on the ballot is “Civil Rights Advocate”.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @MomSense:

    I’ll give some credit to Charles, too. He was a rotten husband, but he and Diana obviously agreed on how they wanted to raise their children (differently than he was raised) and he stuck to that even after her death.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    They found out a couple of years ago that William and Harry aren’t quite as English as they thought — they have an Indian ancestor on their mother’s side from the late 1700s.

    It’s always more complicated for the Royals. William and Harry, as sons of Diana Spencer, are more English than the Queen and the other German Windsors. And I think some other relatives have African ancestry because of marriage to a descendent of Pushkin.

    And for some British nutjobs, the bigger sin is that Harry is marrying a commoner who is also an American.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Rudy G keeps going on TV and saying things that either incriminate Trump or make Trump look like he’s covering something up. Is Trump going to realise that he could land in jail from Rudy’s nuttiness? Will he act to save himself from Rudy’s weird and destructive approach to lawyering?

    In Malaysian news, Najib has been summoned to a meeting on Tuesday at the office of the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission to answer questions about a 1MDB subsidiary. It is possible the Royal Malaysian Cops will be waiting outside in the driveway to arrest him as soon as he comes out We shall see if they do.

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    ruemara says:

    I sincerely hope to see any of these fuckers have their heads explode a la Scanners. Or stroke out. On air.

    @Quinerly: Yes. But I think he favors him.

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    Baud says:

    @Amir Khalid: I will live vicariously through you for a little while.

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    NotMax says:

    (best over the top Cary Grant impression)

    Rudy, Rudy Rudy.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Brachiator:

    She was also raised Catholic, though I think she may have officially converted to Church of England just to avoid future hassles. Catholicism is still a pretty big object of bigotry in England.

    The Windsors are mostly German not just because of the Hanovers, but because of who they would usually marry — Victoria’s mother was German, her husband was German, even the current queen’s grandmother was German (though she was raised in England).

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    @Amir Khalid:

    It’s hard for me to see how he’ll ever figure that out. He knows his 35% eat up whatever Giuliani throws to them, and as I said above, I think that’s all they’re hoping for at this point. They have to hang on to that 35-40%. I think he’s going to go down sooner or later anyway, but if it falls below 35%, it’ll happen a lot sooner.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Jim Kakalios:

    Oh wow! That is truly impressive. I am jealous.

    Zewail was actually a disappointing teacher, at least for undergraduate P-chem. I enjoyed learning about NMR from John Roberts and O-chem from Bob Grubbs a lot more.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    I’m not the guy he needs to con here, and 60% of the people in American aren’t the people he needs to con here. He’s telling Manbaby what he wants to hear, and he’s also talking to the 35-40% of people who still think Trump is anything but a corrupt, incompetent, racist clown. He needs them to keep swallowing this horseshit.

    Yep. You got it. Rudy G. is creating the propaganda product for Fox News and the Sinclair Broadcast outlets, as well as making Trump happy.

    And the sad thing is that Trump’s supporters eagerly lap up this slop.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Brachiator:

    And for some British nutjobs, the bigger sin is that Harry is marrying a commoner who is also an American.

    And she’s Black. Never discount the elephant in the room.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: This is the best part of the story. Her performance, which is taking off her clothes, was delayed because the airline lost her luggage with the clothes she was going to take off:

    “I was being wasted,” the unnamed patron told police. Daniels refused to press charges, and the man was let go, free to walk home.

    “I think she is a really nice person,” the man said. “I am extremely sorry.”

    As Daniels’ show, delayed by hours because her luggage was lost by an airline, approached well after midnight, the club remained crowded.

    She finally took the stage shortly after 1 a.m.

    What a time to be alive!!!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Quinerly: Correct. Apparently one of the military officers assigned to the royal household has red hair and has long been rumored to have had an affair with Princess Diana. Presumably leading to Harry.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amir Khalid: To the former: most likely not. To the latter: that would be interesting.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    This is why you always pack the important stuff in your carry-on. Is she an amateur? 😂

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    NotMax says:

    That Ryan guy, such a leader be he.

    A sweeping farm bill failed in the House on Friday in a blow to GOP leaders who were unable to placate conservative lawmakers demanding commitments on immigration.

    The House leadership put the bill on the floor gambling it would pass despite unanimous Democratic opposition. They negotiated with members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus up to the last minutes.

    But their gamble failed. The vote was 213 to 198, with 30 Republicans joining 183 Democrats in defeating the bill.

    The outcome exposed what is becoming an all-out war within the House GOP over immigration, a divisive fight the Republicans did not want to have heading into midterm elections in November that will decide control of Congress.
    [snip]
    The farm bill itself broke open partisan House divisions as Democrats abandoned negotiations with Republicans over the food stamp changes, which would require adults to spend 20 hours per week working or participating in a state-run training program as a condition to receive benefits. Democrats argue that a million or more people would end up losing benefits, because most states do not have the capacity to set up the training programs required.

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) described the legislation as “cruel” and argued that with the proposed changes to food stamps, “Republicans are taking food out of the mouths of families struggling to make ends meet.” Source

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    lgerard says:

    Trump taps Adm. Harry Harris as ambassador to South Korea

    There really needs to be a moratorium on populating the civilian government with admirals and generals

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    Quinerly says:

    @ruemara: my mom who passed in 2015 kept up with all the Royal watching. I remember her talking about Harry being someone else’s son. She was a big Diana fan. She also loved Sally Bedell Smith’s book on QE. I just Googled to refresh my memory on the Hewitt guy.

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    It’s just Rudy Giuliani. The singular is Rudy Giulianus. It’s been right in front of us the whole time, we’ve just been mispronouncing it.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Brachiator:

    I expect to be wide awake at 4:00 am Eastern and will stream whatever I can. But Fathom Events, bless them, are transmitting the whole thing to select cinemas beginning at 10:00 am. I have reserved my ticket and fully expect to enjoy myself as I have every Royal Wedding since 1947.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Google just informed me that Diana admitted to a 5 year affair with the Hewitt guy while married. He says he’s not Harry’s dad, though.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: I’m guessing she can afford to fly business or first class, which should have given her priority handling for her bags (if you know what I mean, and I think you do…). Sorry, where were we. Oh yeah, lost luggage. My guess is she was traveling light and didn’t want to carry it on.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have a Winner!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): He’s of Italian descent, not Greek.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Stormy was in St. Louis a few weeks back (actually, E St. Louis). Great little write up in the Riverfront Times. I think I posted the piece in an AM thread. Crowd loved her. She hung around for pics.

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    NotMax says:

    It’s hard to read it without coming away with the impression that Dolt 45 had no idea the guy was right there.

    President Donald Trump has picked North Carolinian Robert Wilkie to be secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs.
    [snip]
    Trump made the surprise announcement at a prison reform summit Friday morning at the White House.

    Wilkie, who has been the acting secretary of the VA since March, joined several Cabinet members at the event, including Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, Energy Secretary Rick Perry and Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner were also there.

    “I’ll be informing him in a little while — he doesn’t know this yet — that we’re going to be putting his name up for nomination to be Secretary of the Veterans Administration. Fantastic,” Trump said. “I’m sorry I ruined the surprise.”

    Wilkie, 55, rose from his seat on the front row, stepped forward and shook Trump’s hand.… Source

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Quinerly: She may not be the hero we deserve, but…

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Quinerly:

    With all respect, I think that’s bullshit. Harry is the image of his paternal grandfather, HRH The Duke of Edinburgh, if you get past the beard and the ginger hair. Harry is reportedly HM The Queen’s favourite grandchild, and it is my belief that he reminds her of Prince Philip as a young man.

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    Brachiator says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I have reserved my ticket and fully expect to enjoy myself as I have every Royal Wedding since 1947.

    With all that experience, you could be an official commentator. Hope you enjoy this one. I wish the couple well, and enjoy seeing how the majority of the people seem to embrace Meghan Markle.

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    Bex says:

    @Mnemosyne: Diana wasn’t the world’s greatest wife either.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): I really needed these laughs.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Not only that but you can’t appoint him until he stops being the acting/interim secretary. Not that the GOP Congress is going to do anything about it.

    To be honest, Wilkie should have been the nominee in the first place based on the work he’s been doing for years at DOD.

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    NotMax says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)

    Could’a sworn the plural was Giulianii.

    ;)

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I got no CORGI in this fight. 😈
    Just recalling what my dear, sainted mum told me.😎

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    And to me, this is another manifestation of Charles making it clear that he is not going to even attempt to interfere in his sons’ marriages, because he fucked his own up too badly.

    To be fair to Charles, he had help fucking up his first marriage. It was doomed from the start because he followed somebody else’s rules of propriety rather than marrying the woman he actually wanted to be with. Now that it’s his sons’ turn, he’s making sure they aren’t pressured into making the same mistake.

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    Peale says:

    @Adam L Silverman: have we checked to make certain he’s actually alive? Perhaps it’s not a living trust. Or maybe it’s actually a contract with the devil.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Quinerly:

    Harry looks like a Windsor, though he’s kept more of his hair than William has. It’s not like red hair is all that unusual in England.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Giulianus/Giuliani would be Latin, not Greek. 2nd declension. So it works.

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    Another Scott says:

    @lgerard: Obligatory Musical Interlude (3:45)

    You’re welcome. ;-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @rikyrah: Appalling.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @NotMax:

    “I’ll be informing him in a little while — he doesn’t know this yet — that we’re going to be putting his name up for nomination to be Secretary of the Veterans Administration. Fantastic,” Trump said. “I’m sorry I ruined the surprise.”

    FFS, I can’t even.

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    boatboy_srq says:

    QuattrofromaGiuliani.

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    Emma says:

    @Mnemosyne: My understanding is she chose to convert to honor the Queen as Head of the Church of England.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Bex:

    True. I have more sympathy for her than I do for him because Charles had no business marrying her when he was in love with someone else, but she definitely did her share of bad stuff.

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    Brachiator says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    And she’s Black. Never discount the elephant in the room.

    Oh, you have people like Princess Michael of Kent, who is a stone cold bigot. But you also have people who would hate Meghan more if she were Irish.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @Mnemosyne: Also the BRF are descendants of the Prophet Muhammad, which gives them Middle Eastern ancestry and there were rumours that Queen Charlotte, George III’s wife, had African ancestry.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Mnemosyne: I think Anne Boleyn was a red head. 😈

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    Rudy Giuliani then freaks out and starts screaming at Chris Cuomo that it is unfair to ambush Rudy Giuliani with one video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani and then a second video of Rudy Giuliani contradicting Rudy Giuliani.

    Anyone who has known an abusive narcissist recognizes this behavior. It also makes clear that none of this is a strategy. Giuliani is just saying whatever bullshit he wants to be true at the time, and how dare anyone not realize that MAKES it true.

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    Bex says:

    @Mnemosyne: She was baptized and confirmed in the Church of England in March. She attended a Catholic school, but was not raised Catholic. Her father is an Episcopalian and as I understand it her mother does not identify with any denomination. If she had been baptized Catholic she would not have needed to be baptized again. Most Christian denominations accept the baptism of any other denomination.

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    Noncarborundum says:

    @Manyakitty: Yes, like “brothers Grimm”. But I don’t think you change final “y” to “ie” when pluralizing proper nouns.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @Mnemosyne One of Harry’s Spencer ancestors was known as the Red Earl, not because of his political views but because of his mane of red hair.

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    laura says:

    We’re heading to Berkeley for my dearest friends daughters graduation (with honors!). Tonight we’re eating chicken and biscuits and I’m bringing headbands and paper plates so we can make regretably hideous fascinators and watch the wedding. Rikyrah’s links -especially The Root has got me stocked!
    After a week like this, and a day like this, There. Will. Be. Joy.

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    Emma says:

    @Quinerly: If you put Charles, Phillip, William and Harry next to each other, you can see the similarities. A while ago some facial expert told one of the newspapers that he had been asked to do a check and he had definitely asserted that Harry was Charles’s son. I remember it because the capstone of the argument had to do with their teeth. Harry inherited the small teeth and short canines of the Greek Royal family.

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    Bex says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Adam L Silverman: Total rumor. The gentleman in question had not even met Diana until after Harry was born.

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    NotMax says:

    @Qunerly

    About that head thing…

    Didn’t quite pan out.

    ;)

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    MomSense says:

    @Quinerly:

    Yeah the rumor was that he was the son of a bodyguard with whom Diana had an affair. The bodyguard also happens to be a ginger. From what I understand, the timing doesn’t work. He has said Harry is not his. I think Harry looks like his grandfather but who knows. This is a big change for the monarchy. Elizabeth didn’t allow her sister to marry the man she loved. Charles wasn’t allowed to marry the woman he loved. They’ve learned the hard way that denying love leads to sorrow.

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    Bex says:

    @Quinerly: Actually she had very dark to black hair. Henry VIII had the trademark Tudor red hair.

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    Brachiator says:

    @lgerard:

    Trump taps Adm. Harry Harris as ambassador to South Korea

    There really needs to be a moratorium on populating the civilian government with admirals and generals.

    Trump doesn’t seem to think much about diplomacy, but instead prefers deal makers and tough talkers. And the news story notes that Harris was suggested by Pompeo. We’ll see if this new foreign policy team share a similar world view.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Brachiator:

    I’d rather leave the commentary to the professional Royal-watchers. But it is true that in 1947 I sat on the floor with my family, gathered around the radio, to listen to news coverage of Princess Elizabeth’s wedding to Prince Philip. And even at age 5, I was obsessed with her image in photographs of the wedding in newspapers and magazines. This early (and, I confess, continuing) fascination with the British Royal Family led eventually to a lifelong interest in English history. But I still love me some ceremonial pomp and circumstance, and at this point I’m old enough that I don’t care who knows it.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Bex:

    Ah, I hadn’t realized that she had been baptized as well, so either she had never been baptized or they couldn’t find the paperwork. I know it’s still a point of contention between the RCC and the LDS that the RCC doesn’t consider Mormons to be Christians and makes anyone who wants to convert get baptized rather than going straight to the other sacraments.

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Yeah, it seems weird to me that people would insist that Harry must be fathered by someone else based on his hair color. But some people want to see conspiracies everywhere they go. 🤷‍♀️

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    Emma says:

    @Sloane Ranger: Not to mention is great-grandmother, the Queen Mother, comes from Scottish aristocracy, and they have more curly-haired gingers than any other population in the known Universe.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Quinerly:

    Har har. 🤪

    ETA: That was a very cutting joke.

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: ❤️

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    Quinerly says:

    @Mnemosyne: my mom was the Royal watcher in the family (after she turned 90, she was fond of saying, “I’m older than the Queen of England.”) I will admit to be fascinated by Henry… I think it had something to do with a miniseries in the 1970’s…I ended up writing and directing a little play in Jr high school about his wives. It was a hit. 😎

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    Elizabelle says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: RE QE2: Had you seen this WaPost roundup on she and her corgis? Some wonderful photos (as far back as Queen Victoria). Queen Elizabeth II loses her last corgi, Willow, marking the end of a scrappy canine dynasty

    And a Vanity Fair item I’ve not looked over yet. Queen Elizabeth and Her Corgis: A Love Story

    I wonder if the San Francisco folks found their corgi to borrow, for their party? I loved “and the corgi would receive much admiration and care.” So sincere.

    Would much rather talk corgis than Rudy.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Mnemosyne: @NotMax: somebody caught it. 😈

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @rikyrah: Sorry to be pedantic but Charles is the future king of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The Scots, Welsh and N Irish tend to get ratty when they get overlooked. :-)

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    NotMax says:

    @Bex

    Inherited by his short-lived son, Edward VI.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Also the BRF are descendants of the Prophet Muhammad

    Impossible. There’s not a single one of them whose name begins with the title Said or Sharifah.

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    jl says:

    I thought I heard Twilight Zone music for a moment as I read this post. Spooky.
    I hope the discovery of the Rudyverse is used as a tool for good, not evil.

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    wuzzat says:

    Clearly, the Rudies Giuliani are here to show us what Mulitiplicity would have been like if the lead character had already been a copy to start out with. And also a terrible person with no moral center.

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    Bex says:

    @NotMax: And his way-longer-lived daughter, Elizabeth I.

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    Dev Null says:

    @Roger Moore: Didn’t someone else work for Трамп for free?

    Sorry, I don’t recall.

    ~pause~

    Point? What point?

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    Dev Null says:

    @GxB: Gosh, 27%. Seems oddly familiar. I wonder why this specific fraction.

    (I know, I know. My comment in lieu of a “like” button.)

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    Quinerly says:

    @Bex: and Anne’s daughter. 😎

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    Dev Null says:

    @Adam L Silverman: “Coffee bars”?!?

    Is nothing sacred?!?

    er, nothing

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    The Ancient Randonneur says:

    @rikyrah: Damn, I love me some Snoop.

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    The Lodger says:

    @Quinerly: Elizabeth I was definitely a redhead.

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    momus says:

    Its obvious that donnie is a quantum entanglement, so time-temperature superposition applies.

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    rikyrah says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    Nope. Don’t discount that elephant.

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    Dev Null says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): +1

    Well, your spelling is, hmm, historically questionable.

    I believe the Latin is “Rudus Ghouli Anus”. (in archaic Latin, Juli Anus.) Similarly, “Marcus Rubius”.

    Get in step with the feet already dead in the service of their country!

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    The Lodger says:

    @The Lodger: As Bex mentioned.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Dev Null: That is the question!

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    Dev Null says:

    @Adam L Silverman: er … Ah got …

    … nuthin’ …

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    Bostondreams says:

    @NotMax:

    And he isn’t even allowed to be nominated! He would have to resign first.

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    Dev Null says:

    @momus: Could you elaborate? ~dryly~

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    J R in WV says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Hey, Amir, Happy Ramadan so far!!

    Wanted to ask you, have you watched any US professional Soccer League games? If so, how do they compare to Manchester and those guys, Real Madrid, etc. The real pro teams in Soccer internationally.

    Take care of yourself during this early summer fast!!

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    Dev Null says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: a summary I have occasionally found useful when trying to understand my colleagues:

    Joanna Ashmun on narcissists

    and yeah, who among us is not self-centered?

    But some are more self-centered than others.

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    patrick II says:

    @Feebog:

    How many times do you have to shoot yourself in the foot before there’s no foot left?

    Using an AK 47 or AR 15? (both available at your local gun store)

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    Ryan says:

    Rudys Giuliani, like Attorneys General, except the derpy version.

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