Thursday Morning Open Thread: Fibber McGee’s Closet

Spent my Wednesday dealing with the sort of niggly nitpicking IRL tasks that force both halves of any long-term couple to remind themselves that their partner has many fine qualities to go with their flaws. (If you’ve got any extra, please spare a good thought for a 16-year-old rescue dog who’s going through all the indignities common to old age. His name is Zevon.) So, of course, the Friday News Dump fell on a Wednesday this week…

Trump Crime Cartel minions are whistling past the graveyard –

Still Proud to Be A Democrat:

109 replies
  1. 1
    SFAW says:

    I think the two missing Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs), which I read about at Josh Marshall’s place, are very interesting. Who disappeared them? I really have no idea who could, but one wonders whether it was all part of the same shenanigans from Cy Vance Jr’s office.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    I think I’ll just go back to bed. If I’m lucky I’ll wake up in 3 years and this will all be just like a bad dream.

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    SFAW says:


    If I’m lucky I’ll wake up in 3 years

    I’m kind of hoping for three months.

    ETA: That the maladministration is gone, not that you’re asleep for that long. On second thought, set a “due date” for January, 2019 — as long as it’s a Dem Speaker.

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    danielx says:

    Sort of glad I was out of it yesterday afternoon; I likely would have been screaming out loud at the news.

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    syphonblue says:

    Why the fuck is CNN reporting anything Rudy said as fact?

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    WereBear says:

    This HAD to happen. The Republicans were degenerating like the Picture of Dorian Gray. With the lukewarm base enthusiasm for the Usual Primary Suspects, they had to take the picture down from the attic, and run it for President. Thanks to their own cheating and Russian interference, they won.

    But they also lost. I still don’t understand how the screaming obvious had to happen, when the entire Left Blogosphere has been screaming it was going to happen, but they did: they went Screaming Obvious. The lickspittle press can’t put enough frosting on this turd; he has no inside voice. He’s the Republican Base Id personified, and they love it.

    The rest of us are horrified. It’s like we finally have a diagnosis. Now, the treatment can begin.

    Of course, in classic literature fashion, evil sowed the seeds of its own destruction. The Republicans built this Monster of the Id (just like the Krell in Forbidden Planet) and they chose Trump.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning Everyone 😄😄😄

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    SFAW says:


    Why the fuck is CNN reporting anything Rudy said as fact?

    1) Squirrel!
    2) Because they’re almost on a par with Fox and FTFNYT vis-a-vis Trump-fellaters

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    NotMax says:

    This tragic Florida story is … bizarre.

    Exploding vape pen killed Florida man, autopsy report says

    Blast sent fragments into the man’s cranium and started a fire that burned 80% of his body
    Such accidents aren’t unheard of: According to a U.S. Fire Administration report, at least 195 electronic cigarettes exploded or caught fire from 2009 to 2016, and while no deaths were recorded in that time, the explosions caused 133 injuries, 38 of them severe.

    Firefighters found D’Elia inside his burning home, the Tampa Bay Times reported. Officials found “extensive” fire damage in D’Elia’s bedroom, where his body was found, but minimal smoke, the report said. Source

    Switching gears, some were questioning what happens during Ramadan in near-polar climes. Ramadan in Canada’s North, where the fasting day is at least 19 hours long

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    SFAW says:


    Although the dark part(s) of their collective psyche created the Monster, I don’t think the Krell were inherently evil. I’m not sure the same can be said about the Rethuglicans and RWNJs in general.

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    danielx says:


    All true, except that the Republican base thinks this is all perfectly fine. In their view, WE – we being anyone who doesn’t worship at the altar of Dear Leader – are the deluded ones. Back in the day there was a Republican congressman from my own fair state, fella named Earl Landgrebe, who became semi-famous for a line he uttered at the Watergate hearings: “Don’t confuse me with the facts”. Also noted for his statement “I’m going to stick with my President even if he and I have to be taken out of this building and shot.” This is pretty much the same mentality we’re dealing with today, except that Trumpian true believers are much more likely to say that THEY will shoot anyone who confuses them with anything they don’t want to believe.

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    Bruce K says:

    I’m sorry, but at this point, if Rudy Giuliani said water was wet, I’d want independent confirmation.

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    p.a. says:


    The lickspittle press can’t put enough frosting on this turd… evil sowed the seeds of its own destruction.

    I can’t help wondering if the scumbags could just have avoided attacking the press directly whether the ‘both sides’/‘everyone does it’ memes would still be the norm for the non-Fux, non-hate radio, non-Brooksian media. Lickspittle as long as they’re not attacked directly.

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    NotMax says:

    Bringing new meaning to the phrase eat and run.

    Trail of Corn Dog Debris Helps Catch Thieves Who Stole Virgin Mary Statue

    If you know what a gas station corn dog tastes like, it’s probably a safe assumption that you’re either an eight-year-old or the kind of person who has strong opinions about the State Fair. And, according to one Wisconsin Police Department, you’re probably one of the people who stole a 300-pound statue from the local Catholic church. Source

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    JR says:

    “A la lanterne”

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    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman) says:


    Disclaimer: I’m a vaper.

    Without knowing the particular device involved, I can’t be certain what caused it, but I can make an educated guess.

    1. The atomizer didn’t explode.

    Atomizers are just heating coils that either are wrapped around cotton or a bare coil for drip vaping.

    2. The batteries in vape devices (mods) are lithium cell batteries, usually INR 18650 or larger. These can overheat and explode due to overcharging, drawing too much power, or a defective battery.

    3. Electronic mods have a protection circuit that shuts the mod off before it can overheat the battery. Mechanical mods do not.

    My guess is that he was using either a mechanical mod and held the button down too long, an electronic mod with a defective battery, or a mechanical mod with a defective battery.

    If you vape and want to move beyond the $10 vape pens from 7/11, do your research.

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    rikyrah says:

    LarryO on Michael Cohen Last night

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    Immanentize says:

    @SFAW: The system that Banking reports are kept on are run by the Dept. of Commerce and the Treasury…. They are not law enforcement data bases.


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    LAO says:

    @SFAW: Vance is a local county DA, FICEN is federal. Vance has no jurisdiction over the SARS. If the SARS were pulled by law enforcement, it would be a federal agency like the DOJ.

    ETA: I see Imm beat me to it, with a better explanation. I need my coffee!

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    NotMax says:

    Reads like the opening line for a really, really trashy novel, don’t it?

    I had two Friday and woke up the next morning on the kitchen floor with a chicken tender in my hand. Source


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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @NotMax: Sounds like a Bill Cosby business lunch.

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    danielx says:


    Would read better if it said “woke up the next morning with a rubber chicken in my hand”.

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    debbie says:

    BREAKING: Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani

    Did Rudi get laughed out of the building when he made that pronouncement?

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    SFAW says:


    Thanks to both of you for the explanation.

    ETA: Or, for LAO, translated into local dialect: “da bot’ of youse.”

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    debbie says:


    Though I must say, Rudi’s statement that we’re torturing Trump is very cheering.

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    Baud says:

    The DNC sent me a very long email yesterday about their plans. Anyone else get it?

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    SFAW says:


    Would read better if it said “woke up the next morning with a rubber chicken in my hand”.

    Sounds like a Martin Mull blues rendition.

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    Baud says:


    Today show was reporting it as based on DOJ policy. The DOJ has said in the past that the president can’t be indicted.

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    SFAW says:


    The DNC sent me a very long email yesterday about their plans. Anyone else get it?

    I did. But I replied to them, saying “Baud 2020, motherfuckers Mister Falcon!”

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    SFAW says:


    I’m wondering if it’s a ploy to try to get Mueller to say something, which they can then litigate in the lickspittle press.

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    Baud says:

    @SFAW: Excellent. The time to start rigging the 2020 primary is now.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Baud: This always gets so confusing. My read of the policy is that the DOJ will not (not cannot) indict a sitting President for actions taken while President. This is a bit akin to, but not the same as, if the President does it, it’s not against the law. Different because it is basically the President’s own prosector wing exercising discretion. I have always understood the DOJ rule to say a president may not be formally charged while in office (leaving open the possibility of sealed indictments.).

    Mueller’s team could have said any subtle thing that Rudy worked around in his feeble gray matter

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    debbie says:


    Not even in the case of violating the emoluments clause?

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    Baud says:

    @Immanentize: Yeah the truth is probably like that.

    @debbie: I don’t think that’s even a criminal violation.

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    Platonailedit says:

    Guessing cnn is trying desperately to take the twitler’s media lackey role away from faux news.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @debbie: Impeachment is the constitutional remedy for that.

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    Baud says:


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    MJS says:

    @SFAW: To confuse this further (or maybe not), Ronan Farrow on Maddow last night claimed that “10s of thousands” of law enforcement professionals” have access to finCEN(?), and that they can access it for anything as mundane as seeing something in the news and wondering if the issue mentioned may have some tie in to the law enforcement professional’s jurisdiction. What those law enforcement professionals wouldn’t be able to do is to remove documentation. Maddow and Farrow then speculated on something that I was also thinking – Mueller pulled them, because he didn’t want anyone else poking around. But that doesn’t make much sense, because he didn’t pull all of them, and the one he left behind alluded to the other two.

    Anyway, just wild, probably ill-informed speculation on my part. I’m auditioning for a talking head spot on cable news.

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    WereBear says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Impeachment is the constitutional remedy for that.

    Yes, but the founders didn’t reckon with our current situation, seems like. Let’s see how adaptable their experiment can become, because we are finally getting loud and rowdy about what is being done to us.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    Based on the pattern so far, all this should push Trump’s job approval higher than ever.

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    James E Powell says:

    I keep wondering when or if the total weight of all these stories will drag Trump’s approval below the 40% line. Can he really hold on like this for two more years?

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    Baud says:

    @Matt McIrvin:
    @James E Powell:

    His approval won’t be affected by the Russia investigation until there is a definitive allegation about his campaign and not just leaks. Then we’ll see.

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    Ken says:

    @James E Powell: Look up “sunk cost fallacy”. Also “emotional investment”.

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    Booger says:

    @NotMax: Chicken Tender is an honorable profession.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @WereBear: Well they did and they didn’t. They never foresaw a lying corrupt greedy philandering treasonous fart bag in the White House with a cowardly corrupt party backing his every move, but they did recognize the fact that the removal of a sitting President would be a political act and as such made a political process for that removal.

    This upcoming election will tell the tale. If the GOP gets their clock cleaned, and is made to fear for their political lives, things will change. Not saying how much or even if we will like the changes.

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    Just one more canuck says:

    @SFAW: or an early draft of a Peter Frampton song

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    Elizabelle says:

    @WereBear: They did not foresee a “Madness of King George” scenario, no? Especially wherein the executive sees himself as monarch, and his political party has become a swamp of self-dealing courtiers. Meanwhile, you have the “free press”, with its First Amendment protection, shrieking “both sides”, because they’re a swamp of a different nature.

    It is envervating to live through this. Every day, they’re termiting out the public good.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @Baud: Nixon’s approval survived months of jaw-dropping revelations. It dropped when excerpts of the tapes came out, and people learned that he used curse words when he talked in private. All the expletives deleted finally disillusioned his loyal fans.

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    MJS says:

    @Lapassionara: Hopefully there are tapes of Trump using kind words to describe Democrats, women, minorities, immigrants, the disable, etc. Then his approval rating will hit zero.

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    WereBear says:

    Gotta read it to believe it:

    It’s Official! Curing Patients Is Bad for Business

    According to an article by Tae Kim on CNBC, Goldman Sachs issued a report (by Salveen Richter) that suggested that drug developers might want to think twice about making drugs that were too effective. Richter’s report, entitled “The Genome Revolution,” was issued on April 10 and says:

    “The potential to deliver ‘one shot cures’ is one of the most attractive aspects of gene therapy, genetically-engineered cell therapy and gene editing. However, such treatments offer a very different outlook with regard to recurring revenue versus chronic therapies…. While this proposition carries tremendous value for patients and society, it could represent a challenge for genome medicine developers looking for sustained cash flow.”

    The translation: if you develop a new drug that cures people rapidly, then patients will not need to take the drug on an ongoing basis, and that limits the amount of money a company can make.

    The analyst asks: “Is curing patients a sustainable business model?”

    The analyst suggests providing expensive drugs that only maintain the patient, not cure them. They make more money that way.

    We can’t make this stuff up.

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    Immanentize says:

    @Elizabelle: The framers certainly envisioned a despot president. They also envisioned — because they had contemporary examples — of a despot legislature (Pennsylvania was one State like that). What they didn’t fully imagine in their bi-cameral legislative design was factional capture of both houses and the Presidency. It is truly remarkable what the Republicans have accomplished. But it is seemingly collapsing of it’s own weight because the Republican faction was built on unsustainable economic principles. Unsustainable, without slavery or similar feudal structures.

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    WereBear says:

    @James E Powell: I keep wondering when or if the total weight of all these stories will drag Trump’s approval below the 40% line. Can he really hold on like this for two more years?

    His hardcore supporters LOVE him. These are the Fuck Your Feelings people. What is not for them to like?

    Only serious public humiliation and ridicule will get them to back off. So let’s all sign up to make this White House exposed as the most outrageously corrupt in our history. Which shouldn’t be that hard… since it is.

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    artem1s says:


    Of course, in classic literature fashion, evil sowed the seeds of its own destruction. The Republicans built this Monster of the Id (just like the Krell in Forbidden Planet) and they chose Trump.

    Yep. The Alliance made the Reavers. <

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    Immanentize says:

    @MJS: We hear that Everytime he goes on TV. That said if things do start turning against him (after the mod-terms, i suppose) I expect huge troves of such recordings/videos/tapes will flood the airwaves. They are out there, just being held as insurance right now.

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    oatler. says:

    @Immanentize: Bloody civil war.

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    MJS says:

    @Immanentize: We hear KIND words from Trump? I’m saying it’s him saying NICE things about those groups that would cause his deplorable base to abandon him.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Lapassionara: Nixon’s Gallup approval was around 23% on his last day in office. (Scroll down to the graphs)

    It takes a lot to get people to change their minds after they have invested in a politician…


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    Josie says:

    @Immanentize: Oddly enough, I find this explanation very comforting.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Immanentize: Interesting comment. I think the GOP could not be where it is without the GOP rightwing propaganda machine, especially Fox and Rush. The plutocrats built this. They built this idiotic and/or greedy GOP electorate.

    Stealing the Supreme Court seat is one of the worst crimes. You can (in principle) vote a POTUS out, even an illegitimate one. I want Mitch McConnell to swing for that one. I suspect Obama has a LOT of regrets for not seeing them as the actual treasonous criminals they turned out to be.

    WRT not wanting to pay workers: maybe today’s Republicans are rooting like hell for robot labor? The glibertarians sure are. I would like to see some of their heads on pikes.

    Hmmmm. In a bad mood, apparently. Maybe a good day to stay off the ‘net.

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    bystander says:

    The bank(s) who filed the Suspicious Activities Reports undoubtedly retained copies to prove their compliance with banking rules and regs. If Mnuchin is involved in disappearing them, he had no way to disappear a filing bank’s copies, except through conspiracy.

    I could be corrected, but that’s my recollection of those filings. Banks are obligated to file SARS so they do not to be asked later why they didn’t comply.

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    Mary G says:

    AL, sending healing thoughts to Zevon.

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    rikyrah says:

    Will remind folks what Silverman wrote last night:

    Adam L Silverman says:
    May 16, 2018 at 9:47 pm
    @West of the Rockies: To me the bigger story today is this Ronan Farrow report. Apparently Congresswoman Waters had a tip about this last year and wrote to Secretary Mnuchin about it this past January. From the letter she sent Mnuchin:

    Have you ever directed, or has any other Trump Administration official, Trump campaign official or Trump family member called on you to direct U.S. Treasury officials or staff members to obscure, destroy, or withhold information implicating the President, Trump campaign officials, Trump family members or his associates?

    Seems like Auntie Maxine was onto something.
    And, she never got a response back….Hmmmmmm….

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    Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman) says:


    This would explain all of the anti-Maxine Waters memes that my RWNJ father keeps sharing on the Book of Faces…

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you:

    Men who work as labourers or in other physically demanding roles have a greater risk of dying early than those with more sedentary jobs, researchers say.

    The finding, from scientists in the Netherlands, reveals an apparent “physical activity paradox” where exercise can be harmful at work but beneficial to health when performed in leisure time.

    Pieter Coenen, a public health researcher at VU University medical centre in Amsterdam, said the reason for the disparity is unclear, but he believes it may reflect the different types of exercise people get at work compared with those in their free time.

    “While we know leisure-time physical activity is good for you, we found that occupational physical activity has an 18% increased risk of early mortality for men,” Coenen said. “These men are dying earlier than those who are not physically active in their occupation.”

    Who knew that lifting hundred pound sheets of drywall all day every day for decades on end could be detrimental to ones health? And all this time I thought all the pain I live with every day was a sign of excellent health!

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    Jeffro says:


    Reads like the opening line for a really, really trashy novel, don’t it?

    I had two Friday and woke up the next morning on the kitchen floor with a chicken tender in my hand.

    @NotMax: Sounds like a Bill Cosby business lunch.

    I love this joint. The cover charge is a bit much, but where else could one find this level of comedy on a Thursday morning?

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    rikyrah says:

    Aerial footage shows massive teacher protest in Raleigh, North Carolina, as wave of teacher revolts continues to sweep throughout the U.S. Up to 15,000 are expected to swarm the state’s capitol this morning.

    Read more:
    Watch live:

    — ABC News (@ABC) May 16, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    Calling people animals is sinful. Every human being has infinite dignity. Moreover, this is the same kind of language that led to the extermination of Jews (“vermin”) in Germany and of Tutsi (“cockroaches”) in Rwanda. This kind of language cannot be normalized. It is a grave sin.

    — James Martin, SJ (@JamesMartinSJ) May 16, 2018

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    rikyrah says:


    Only serious public humiliation and ridicule will get them to back off.

    And, not even then.
    But, that’s the reason why I want the pee-pee tape released. I just want to be able to throw it in their faces.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:This is too fucking much:

    In light of the findings, published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine, Coenen believes more should be done to encourage people in manual work to follow the standard guidelines on exercise, and not be fooled into thinking that they got enough at work. “Even if you are physically active at work, that doesn’t mean you don’t have to be physically active in your leisure time,” he said.

    STFU asshole. At the end of my day I was in so much fucking pain I could not even grip my steering wheel, was dealing with repeated waves of muscle cramping all over my body, and if Dog forbid I has been working over my head that day the first thing I did when I got home was put myself in traction, and that was IF I didn’t have go to physical therapy that day.

    The absolute cluelessness of Doctors is astounding.

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    rikyrah says:

    Amid report’s revelations: an informant in the Trump Russia probe

    Rachel Maddow sorts through the day’s blizzard of news, including a number of scoops in a New York Times report. Among those scoops is the revelation that Carter Page and George Papdopoulos met several times with at least one government informant.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jeffro: 10,000 unemployed comedians and here we are giving it away for free.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:


    Every human being has infinite dignity.

    Ummm no, just no. Evidence of fact is the current resident of the WH.

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    SFAW says:


    In a bad mood, apparently.

    Hadn’t noticed.

    Maybe a good day to stay off the ‘net.

    Well, if it’s for the purpose of keeping your blood pressure low enough, sure. But righteous rants are generally welcome here.

    Except for that Betty Cracker lady. Her righteous rants are too shrill.
    [BC: I hope you know I’m kidding. I can’t get enough of you tearing the RWNJs a new asshole.]

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    SFAW says:


    The cover charge is a bit much,

    The way you get around that is to send Cole an e-mail, must be ALL CAPS, complaining LOUDLY about it. He generally pays special attention to stuff like that, and will give you the super-sekrit code to get around the paywall.

    ETA: You can also FAX Cole your credenza, that might work.

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    The statement could have come out of any white supremacist tract where they call for a race war. It is exactly what white supremacists say about brown people when they’re getting their hate on and don’t feel restricted. He’s left behind dog whistles and gone naked hardcore racism, and I bet most of white America will STILL try and excuse this and say it’s something else, because I guess it’s not the N Word.

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    SFAW says:


    will STILL try and excuse this and say it’s something else, because I guess it’s not the N Word.

    Even then. “They musta done something REELY BAD for him to call them that!”

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    bemused says:


    It’s a safe bet the doc has never worked at a manual, hard labor job on a daily basis and definitely not worked like that for decades. He probably doesn’t even have family or friends who have.

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    gene108 says:


    I want hedge fund billionaires to strike. Withhold their productivity for a day, week, or month and compare it to how much society would grind to a halt, if teachers went on strike, or home healthcare workers/aids in nursing homes, etc. ‘Cause I think most wouldn’t notice hedge funds no longer traded and other investors would pick up the slack.

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    Leto says:

    @bystander: Not only should the banks still have copies, but the FINC database system itself can track who access these documents (like most databases can). Who accessed the documents last? They should be able to see that even if the records were deleted.

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    catclub says:


    that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president,

    Is the part that Giuliani left out: “so they plan to indict him the first day he is no longer president”?

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    @rikyrah: Nazi Times is still normalizing him.

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    catclub says:

    @rikyrah: only educated people would chant “Remember, remember, we vote in November”

    I was amused

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    germy says:

    Something I found interesting and important:

    Carpenters union pushes to increase female membership

    ‘Sisters in the Brotherhood’ seeks to diversify ranks of large trade union

    The labor council representing nearly 40,000 carpenters in five Northeast states brought its drive for female membership to the Capital Region on Monday and Tuesday.

    The Northeast Regional Council of Carpenters offers an earning-while-learning path into the trade, with a six-week pre-apprenticeship course and a five-year apprenticeship. Both are free to participants.

    The pay rate for apprentices varies by region. In the Capital Region with Local 291, it starts at $15.47 an hour and increases annually until the apprentice becomes a journeyman earning $30 an hour. The pre-apprenticeship course covers essential topics such as math, safety, tools and skills. It is unpaid, but recipients are given a tool kit and work boots upon completion.

    Council representative Nicole Grodner said the point of the meetings Monday and Tuesday in Albany, Troy and Schenectady was to increase female membership in the locals that make up the council. The locals, she explained, should reflect the population in the areas they serve.

    American organized labor, meanwhile, is trying to regain some of the size and influence it wielded at its height in the mid-20th century.

    “We strongly feel that women and minorities are going to save the labor movement, almost,” Grodner said.

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    Jeffro says:


    You can also FAX Cole your credenza, that might work.

    Um…that is an interesting mental picture…we’re gonna need a bigger fax machine, methinks…

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    WereBear says:

    @germy: I am rather glad, now, that I didn’t major in journalism like I planned.

    Inside the ‘dehumanizing’ cost-cutting efforts by new ownership at the Boston Herald

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    germy says:


    McGovern wrote Monday that while the practice of buying up struggling outlets does keep papers, if barely, afloat and at least some reporters employed, he’s skeptical the pattern will be good for journalists as a whole or the communities they serve.

    “I wonder what the cost will be when already depleted newsrooms are boiled down to skeleton crews,” he said. “At some point, a newspaper becomes a once-proud masthead riding on an empty vessel.”

    I’ve seen this happen at several local papers. Gutted out. Reduced to copy/pasting national news from dubious sources. Much less local coverage. Lots of reporters leaving the business to work in public relations, etc.

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    SFAW says:


    I take it you weren’t here for the Credenza Wars, something like 5 years ago?

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    But her emails!!! says:

    @germy: It’s the Boston Herald. It’s only been useful for 1. Bird cage and puppy enclosure lining, 2. Sunday coupon booklets, 3. Sports as long as I have lived in Massachusetts.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @WereBear: I nearly threw up when I read that. Psychopaths, all of them.

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    rikyrah says:

    BREAKING: The European Union just announced that they will fight Trump’s sanctions on Iran by activating a law that bans EU companies form complying with the US sanctions! (per @Reuters)

    In other words, the EU just sided with Iran over the U.S.

    That’s how far we have fallen!

    — Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) May 17, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    That ONE SAR report on Cohen contained the 4.4 million.


    How much money was on those?

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    WaterGirl says:

    @rikyrah: We have to hope there are backups of the missing data. Maybe the IT people will save us.

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    rikyrah says:

    ICE arrested a dreamer, revoked his DACA status, placed him in detention, and attempted to deport him, claiming he was a gang member. A federal judge just ruled that ICE was lying—brazenly, intentionally, repeatedly, and illegally. @Slate

    — Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) May 17, 2018

    ICE agents tried to extract a false confession from Ramirez, demanding that he “admit” he was in a gang. When he refused, ICE pointed to his tattoo, which said “La Paz—BCS,” his birthplace in Baja California Sur.

    That, ICE said, proves you’re “definitely a gang member.”

    — Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) May 17, 2018

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    rikyrah says:

    Ethics office refers Trump Stormy Daniels disclosure to DoJ

    Rachel Maddow reports on a letter from the Office of Government Ethics alerting the Department of Justice to Donald Trump’s disclosure of payments to Stormy Daniels by way of Michael Cohen on his annual report.

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    rikyrah says:

    Belated Trump Stormy Daniels disclosure prompts criminal referral

    Adav Noti, senior director at The Campaign Legal Center, talks with Rachel Maddow about the Office of Government Ethics’ criminal referral to the DoJ of Donald Trump’s belated disclosure of payments to Stormy Daniels through Michael Cohen.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Quick note about Amy Siskind: The enemy of my enemy is my friend, etc., but Siskind was one of the most obnoxious and destructive PUMAs out there during the 2008 election. She was in such a snit when PBO won the nomination that she endorsed McCain-Palin. She invited racist creeps into her organization — including the woman who was ejected from the DNC rules meeting while shouting about PBO being an “inadequate black male.” Siskind also seems to have used her perch at Huffington Post to dox Obama supporters and turn their personal info over to some truly sinister PUMA creeps. Just an FYI for those who may have missed all the crazy shit that went down back then.

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    WereBear says:

    @lgerard: Well, while a strong finish, that nation still has a ways to go before the scale tilts in their direction; when you add up all the extraordinarily demented things Florida does on a daily basis…

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    Humdog says:

    I saw a meme yesterday that British Columbia is the Florida of Canada.

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    J R in WV says:


    BREAKING: Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to Trump law,yer Rudy Giuliani…

    Now why would they do that? At this stage of things? No, this is another of those fictions that Rudy and The Donald cooked up, dreaming that passing out such a fiction would help their cause of defaming the investigation. Why investigate someone immune from prosecution after all?

    This isn’t a decision prosecutors would make. It is a decision that a Judge would hand down in a set of contests prior to the beginning of a criminal trial, if such a thing was to be decided. It is such a stupid lie that it makes Rudy look bad, which isn’t hard these days.

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    germy says:

    @J R in WV: This was reported as fact on last night’s CBS News.
    The correspondent told Jeff Glor it was DOJ policy.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Betty Cracker: Thanks for the reminders. She’s not to be trusted.

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    Aleta says:

    @WereBear: In that light, addicting them sure was profitable too.

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    J R in WV says:


    Woman, you’ve been so busy this morning !!! Wow, what a bunch of scoop, thanks so much for sharing all that interesting news with the rest of the pack of jackals.

    Just outstanding!

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    Andrey says:


    The analyst suggests providing expensive drugs that only maintain the patient, not cure them. They make more money that way.

    We can’t make this stuff up.

    A bit late, perhaps, but worth noting: this is the opposite of what the actual analyst suggests. The linked article asserts that’s what the analyst suggests, but is wrong – either accidentally or intentionally misreading. I’ve read the actual analysis, and what the analyst actually suggested is to be able to cure more than one disease. The analyst says that focusing on a single cure may be financially risky, that a company that develops a cure should not rest on its laurels and should already be working on the next cure.

    This is not a minor detail; it’s a completely opposite moral statement. “Cure more diseases faster”, not “stop curing diseases”.

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    WereBear says:

    @Andrey: Hey, thanks so much!

    The strange thing? People who are tangental to the industry? Totally unsurprised.

    So there is that.

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    J R in WV says:


    Well, disappointed in CBS, etc. There are a thousand ifs and elses in any policy, none of them discussed. What about crimes committed while not president? What about treason? I guess we’ll have to depend upon mid-term election success to sway Republicans? Or a stroke.

    What about a Vice President? lots of room for questions about and within any DOJ “policy” – I would have to see the document defining that policy before I believe a word in the MSM at this point.

    Mueller and his people are not talking about it, so this information is coming from Trump’s people, so YMMV but I’m not buying it wholesale yet at all. When we hear from Mueller, that would be different.

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