World’s Most Obnoxious Couch-Surfer Faces Eviction

Like a too-trusting soul who allowed the town wastrel to spend the night in the spare room, only to wake up to an empty fridge, raided liquor cabinet, mysteriously stained sofa, cigarette holes in the carpet, pile of dirty dishes in the sink and hacked bank account, Ecuador has been had.

The Guardian reports that Ecuador spent millions on round-the-clock security for Julian Assange, fretted over how to burnish his image (less rapey? fewer fascists?) and concocted plans to spirit him to safety if the Brits showed up at the door to haul him off to the hoosegow for jumping bail.

And how did the pallid creeper repay Ecuador? By hacking into the embassy’s communication system and accessing official and personal communications, plus pirating Ecuador’s internet on the sly.

Well, Ecuador isn’t the only one who was taken in by Assange. The impulse to stand up for the underdog is admirable, but potential saviors should ensure they’re not caping for rapey sleazebags who pal around with white nationalists and authoritarian kleptocrats while conspiring to overthrow democracies on the side.

Lesson now thoroughly learned, the new president of Ecuador is said to be keen to evict the squatter — ironically, to curry favor with the US. Assange’s erstwhile protector, former Ecuador President Rafael Correa, says Assange’s days of mooching off Ecuador are “numbered.” May he get exactly what he deserves.

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    TenguPhule says:

    May he get exactly what he deserves.

    A cup of tea and a jab by a hollow tip umbrella if the authorities don’t get to him first.

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    geg6 says:

    Oh man. LOL! I hope he has a healthy respect for doorknobs. What a tool.

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    Corner Stone says:

    God dammit. Katy Tur just went “both sides” on the “no respect for either side anymore”.

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    Roger Moore says:

    What he really deserves is to get kicked out the door and then … nothing. No terrible being whisked off to an American black site or otherwise disappearing. Show all his worries about the terrible things that would happen to him if he lost his protection to be the paranoid delusions they are.

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    LAO says:

    @Roger Moore: Agreed and the added indignity of no one paying him any more attention.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    Matthau and Lemmon (or Klugman and Randall) were funnier than Assange and Snowden.

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    satby says:

    Totally overdue for eviction, and a richly deserved arrest.

    Edit: too bad Ecuador wouldn’t press charges on the internal hacking. They should.

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    MattF says:

    But… Assange knows all the cool kids! He eats lunch with the specials! And they all vouch for him! Coolest of the cool!

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    Mary G says:

    I was shocked at just how much money they spent – millions of dollars. Must not have been very good companies they used, because all of his behavior was missed.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Fuck, Haspel is going to get in. Warner caved.

    /Breaking at Wapo

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Mary G:

    Must not have been very good companies they used, because all of his behavior was missed.

    No, actually they picked it up and told his hosts what he was doing.

    Apparently it was just fine. //

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    MattF says:

    @TenguPhule: Um, well. Sometimes the CIA has to do… certain things.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: She got sucked in by Chuck Todd’s Eau de Broder!

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    Corner Stone says:

    I was praying the title of the post was about Trump or at least one of his spawn.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Show all his worries about the terrible things that would happen to him if he lost his protection to be the paranoid delusions they are.

    I think his worries about the Russians are well founded. And couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    This seems relevant again given what Assange was doing from the embassy:

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    TenguPhule says:

    @MattF:

    Um, well. Sometimes the CIA has to do… certain things.

    She’s not going to buck Trump. She’s going to do exactly what he tells her to.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Tur has been pissing me off for a while now. I don’t get her equivocating after she was on the campaign trail with Trump and had to be escorted by security from events due to threats from his supporters. But yeah…

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman: He knows too much.

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    Percysowner says:

    @Roger Moore: I do think he should face trial on the rape charges in Sweden and if found guilty be incarcerated. He already dodged some of the charges by running out the Statute of Limitations on a couple of the charges, and I don’t want to see him skate on everything just because he managed to run out the clock while mooching off Ecuador. If it makes him look like a martyr, so be it.

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    LAO says:

    Offered with a small snicker:

    NEW: North Korean state media announces that talks with South Korea on Wednesday are suspended, calling joint US-South Korean military training a "provocation" amid improved relations.— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 15, 2018

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    Scott says:

    I don’t think that Ecuador spent their own money. To me, the most interesting question is who (or what country) was funding Ecuador to house Assange.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: The answer to the question that Todd posed about how this happened and Tur reminisced about offensive shirts and signs and statements and behaviors by both the President as candidate and his supporters, was that the news media made a decision that rather than call him out, rather than stating “we’re not being penned in and used as a prop and if you don’t like it you won’t get coverage and you can try getting elected with only Fox News, Breitbart, and Dim Jim”. But that’s not what they did. They caved. Because they wanted the access. As I’ve written here repeatedly: eventually one of his supporters is going to seriously hurt, if not murder, a reporter at one of these rallies. They’re working themselves up to it. When that happens I’m pretty sure I know how the news media will cover this, which is not how it should cover it.

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    Mary G says:

    @Adam L Silverman: And have you seen what the new regional president believes?

    What Catalonia’s new president Torra says about Jews:
    •We pay our bills, Jews don’t.
    •Shame is a word Jews erased from their dictionary centuries ago.
    •The fascism of Jews living in Catalonia is infinitely pathetic, repulsive, and bastard.
    2/3 pic.twitter.com/SiRqFIl2jq— Alfons López Tena #FBPE (@alfonslopeztena) May 14, 2018

    Today feels like the 1930s all over again.

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    Michael G says:

    Let’s not forget the classic Julian Assange: Houseguest video.

    https://youtu.be/Le3jrp6LzjI

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    Yutsano says:

    @Percysowner: He still has a bench warrant in Britain that needs resolved first. Then they’ll send him back to Sweden.

    EDIT: Ecuador also has a tradition of ceviche. One would think they would know that house guests are like fish: no good after three days.

    Plus stop making the threats. Just throw him out and be done with him. Let everything else fall as it may.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: That’s not actually true. Mr. Lopez was making a rhetorical point by replacing Spaniard with Jew to show that the new regional president’s remarks are outside the acceptable realm.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    When that happens I’m pretty sure I know how the news media will cover this, which is not how it should cover it.

    Some news producer will see it and immediately think to themselves: “Top of the hour news story AND I don’t have to pay that person’s salary and benefits anymore. Sheer Genius! Who can I send next?”

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    Captain C says:

    @Percysowner:

    He already dodged some of the charges by running out the Statute of Limitations on a couple of the charges

    Perhaps it’s not how the law works in Sweden, but I think that if he knew about the charges and then deliberately went fugitive, the clock should stop on the statute of limitations.

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    Planetpundit says:

    He can become the White House Communications Director.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @TenguPhule:
    What’s that Mark Twain quote? “I’ve never wished death on anyone but I’ve read many obituaries with great amusement?”

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    trollhattan says:

    @TenguPhule:
    This from last week needs repeating:

    Sen. Susan Collins: If the President gave you a direct order to waterboard a terrorism suspect, what would you do?
    Gina Haspel: “I do not believe the President would ask me to do that”

    She has evidently removed the “I” word from her future job title. Who the fuck do you think your boss is going to be, stupid lady?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yutsano: Van Diemen’s Land!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @LAO: This is my surprised face. : i

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    Corner Stone says:

    Anybody else want a transcription leaked from the Trump and GOP Senators lunch today?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: “I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

    Actual Quote is ” I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.”

    And it wasn’t said or written by Twain.

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    germy says:

    This is one of my greatest fears

    We must not Julian fall into the hands of the USA!

    It's better to fight now & prevent that, than try to protect him once they have him in Gitmo

    Please join the global campaign to protect & free him NOW!

    #FreeAssange#ReconnectJulian #Unity4J https://t.co/UTnphkoCDE
    — Mrs. Christine Assange (@AssangeMrs) May 15, 2018

    But his preferred candidate “won” the U.S. election. I don’t understand…

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    trollhattan says:

    @Scott:
    I heard they hired a renowned lawyer, Michael somebody, to come in a fix it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Anybody else want a transcription leaked from the Trump and GOP Senators lunch today?

    Not unless they enjoy pain.

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    LAO says:

    @Corner Stone: Oh, Mr. Trump, you have the biggest hands…. You saved the Republican Party….We love you….

    I imagine it went something like that, for a couple of hours.

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    @Adam L Silverman:

    Harrock
    @ademarcisnegro

    He wrote all that piece of shit about Spaniards (Mr. López was being sarcastic and changed “Spaniards” from “Jews” just to draw attention), but it would be the same if he would do that talking about Jews. What is the difference?

    Like other than… history and context?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @trollhattan: I know. I know.

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    trollhattan says:

    @germy:
    Assange in Gitmo? I never considered that, now, remind me about the new CIA chief?

    Conflicted!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: I give it 24 hours before audio leaks.

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    germy says:

    @geg6:

    Oh man. LOL! I hope he has a healthy respect for doorknobs.

    What has he done to offend Putin? I don’t understand what he would have to fear.

    Aren’t umbrella tips and doorknobs reserved for those who turn? He never turned, did he?

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    Barry says:

    @Corner Stone: “Tur has been pissing me off for a while now. I don’t get her equivocating after she was on the campaign trail with Trump and had to be escorted by security from events due to threats from his supporters. But yeah…”

    So many of these journalists are wh*res, pure and simple. Their job is ‘both sides do it’.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @LAO: According to reports, Trump did almost all the talking. I am curious how many abrupt non-relevant segues were involved along with how many repetitions of the same story.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Correct, but… The point here was to make a rhetorical point that the remarks are unacceptable and if you can’t see it, let’s change Spaniard to Jew and it should jump right out at you. I did the same thing here after the mosque shooting in Montreal using the President’s statement after the Pulse mass shooting. I switched Muslim for Christian and the names of the shooters for the guy in Canada, the Las Vegas shooter, the guy who shot up the Planned Parenthood in Colorado, etc.

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    LAO says:

    @Corner Stone: Even worse. I can only imagine the fetid stream of delusion Trump spewed.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @germy:

    I don’t understand what he would have to fear.

    He knows too much.

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    geg6 says:

    @Corner Stone:

    She’s an idiot. I cannot stand her. Ugh. Of course, she’s Chuckles Todd’s protege, so she is required to be a clueless, awful dimwit.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Didn’t know that. It’s a good quote regardless.

    I’m glad Ecuador is coming to its senses finally and kicking Assface out. Sticking it to America isn’t always the best strategy, especially when it leads to protecting rapey pseudo-leftists.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, the setup was pure Chuck Todd. But you gotta know Chuck Todd is gonna Chuck Todd. At one time I had hopes for Ms. Tur but as I said, it’s this kind of denial of reality that gets my Cromwells crossed. But I guess she has books to sell and career aspirations to fulfill, so onward Both Sides Soldier!
    Incidentally, I have stopped watching Hallie Jackson all together. I turn the TV off most mornings during her hour and mute her or switch when she’s location “reporting”. I have decided she’s an out and out Republican slanted saboteur.

    ETA, I also dislike Kasie Hunt. Why can’t we get some Tamron Hall or Soledad up in this piece?

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    @Adam L Silverman: I’m familiar with the exercise, but I find that the urge to hyperbolically go straight for a Jewish comparison often (for lack of a better term) Godwins the sentiment, for me at least. Like, ok, it’s clearly unacceptable but now it feels relatively minor compared to what he could have said. YMMV

    (minorly edited for clarity)

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    Karen marie says:

    @TenguPhule: Of course he did. Her confirmation was entirely predictable, as is the failure of the upcoming vote on net neutrality. I spit in the direction of Republicans and gutless elected Democrats.

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    Mary G says:

    @Adam L Silverman: That’s the problem with Twitter in a nutshell. Thanks for the correction.

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    Colleeniem says:

    @Scott: I had the same thought.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    As I’ve written here repeatedly: eventually one of his supporters is going to seriously hurt, if not murder, a reporter at one of these rallies. They’re working themselves up to it. When that happens I’m pretty sure I know how the news media will cover this, which is not how it should cover it.

    And yet some still insist that it is the left that is the problem.

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    LAO says:

    @TenguPhule:

    BREAKING: North Korea suspends talks with South Korea over S.Korea-U.S military drills, North Korean state news agency KCNA reports. Talks between the Koreas were set to resume Wednesday.— David P Gelles (@gelles) May 15, 2018

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: It’s actually even better/worse:

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷:

    What’s that Mark Twain quote? “I’ve never wished death on anyone but I’ve read many obituaries with great amusement?”

    Not really

    (Edited bad formatting.)

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    geg6 says:

    @germy:

    Unless he hies himself off to Russia, he’s liable to spill the beans on all his nefarious buddies. But he’s too stupid and arrogant to realize that one of the only reasons he’s alive and not shivering in Moscow with his pal, Snowden, is that Ecuador has been protecting his worthless ass. Both the Russians and the Trumpers have every reason to not want Assange running around free.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    From Variety — first, the good news:

    Reese Witherspoon’s Hello Sunshine is developing its first feature-length documentary about tennis legend Martina Navratilova…

    Yay! Navratilova was a role model to many and deserves more kudos as a gay rights pioneer.

    Now, the bad news:

    The documentary will explore Navratilova’s achievements as a social justice pioneer told through [Glenn] Greenwald’s personal lens as a gay child growing up in Reagan-era Florida.

    What the fuck? It’s going to be 95% Greenwald, 5% Navratilova with that self-important twit at the helm. I know several women who grew up gay in Reagan-era Florida. If Navratilova’s story has to be told through someone’s “lens,” theirs would be better.

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    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Who could have seen this coming? Right out of the blue. I’m shocked. You shocked?

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    catclub says:

    @TenguPhule:

    I think his worries about the Russians are well founded.

    not sure I follow. I thought he and wikileaks were working hand in glove with Russians. Do they need to keep this secret? They already failed at that.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I am sure Trump will react to this entirely predictable event in a calm rational manner. //s

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    patrick II says:

    I don’t think the Trump Admin would try to extradite Assange even if he becomes available. He Knows too much. Ecuador may be makimg the wrong more if it is trying to please the u. S. night now.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @LAO: Does Trump cave? Or is this the escalation point the war hawks always wanted?

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    catclub says:

    @Adam L Silverman: why not? see if Trump will cave and cancel exercises to keep the summit meeting.

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    TeezySkeezy (formerly the T S you hate) says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Warner caved.

    Hm.

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    clay says:

    Paging Dr. Silverman.

    Thoughts?

    The U.S. government has identified a suspect in the leak last year of a large portion of the CIA’s computer hacking arsenal, the cyber tools the agency had used to conduct espionage operations overseas, according to interviews and public documents.

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    WhatsMyNym says:

    @Yutsano:

    One would think they would know that house guests are like fish: no good after three days.

    I’ll have to remember that!

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Adam L Silverman: As Vipin Narang just said on Twitter, Let the games begin.

    Now the negotiation gets serious.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @catclub:

    not sure I follow. I thought he and wikileaks were working hand in glove with Russians. Do they need to keep this secret?

    Putin has gone to great lengths to obscure and muddle the trail directly tying Russia the state actor to all of the meddling. The IC knows what he’s doing, but presenting crystal clear proof without blowing their sources is difficult.

    Having a live witness actually testifying that they were in the pay of Russian Intelligence to subvert Democratic institutions would be a level of public proof that would not be in Russia’s best interest.

    There are already a carpet of Russian bodies from the Trump conspiracy and Britain already has Russian agents operating there.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    germy says:

    @Corner Stone:

    is this the escalation point the war hawks always wanted?

    Bolton’s mustache must be twitching in wild anticipation.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: It is what it is.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Trump caved to China, so North Korea might as well give it a try.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Now the negotiation gets serious.

    We’re gonna get rolled hard by NK.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @patrick II: As soon as he hacked the Ecuadorian embassy’s comms, GCHQ had every phone call, text message, email, tweet, etc he’s sent and/or received. British intel has everything they need to turn that Bench Warrant into a number of serious felony charges.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @LAO:

    I’m shocked. You shocked?

    Your winnings, sir.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: I love it even more because of Trump just praising KJU and using all those superlatives. This is fucking gold level trolling right here.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Does Trump cave? Or is this the escalation point the war hawks always wanted?

    Por Que Los Dos?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @catclub: They won’t be cancelled. This was always going to be an issue when the “thaw” and love fest began a couple of week’s ago. They are planned well in advanced and they bring assets in from Japan, Australia, Hawaii and the continental US. Far too expensive to cancel them now that everyone is on site.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Corner Stone: They built him up to be overconfident. Now the real negotiating starts.

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    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? says:

    Why evict him? An Ecuadoran prison seems appropriate if he broke Ecuadoran laws, which it sounds like he did. Why give him a cushy northern European prison sentence when a Latin American one is on offer? I mean if they really want to punish the guy, that is.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Far too expensive to cancel them now that everyone is on site.

    Sorry, not seeing how this would stop Trump from capitulating. Its not his money, after all.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @clay: I had just seen that. The problem they’re facing is that they have compartmented/classified SIGINT showing what he did, who he did it with/who received the info, etc. The challenge is coming up with a way to prove this in court when you’re evidence would give away sources and methods. If they can’t get him to plead, they’ll find some other crime – the child porn stuff – to nail him on. Then there will be a counterintel op to deal with Wikileaks. They’d rather be able to find a way to nail him so they can then move on Wikileaks overtly and bring them to justice in court.

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    germy says:

    No, @Guardian, @JulianAssange did not "hack into" embassy satellites. That's an anonymous libel aligned with the current UK-US government onslaught against Mr. Assange's asylum–while he can't respond. You've gone too far this time. We're suing. https://t.co/DDnkSoczut pic.twitter.com/qWB0wkatN2— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) May 15, 2018

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    TenguPhule says:

    Naked man tackled on Alaska Airlines flight, ex-lawmaker says

    A retired Alaska state lawmaker says a naked passenger was tackled and detained on an Alaska Airlines flight from Seattle to Anchorage, Alaska.

    Former state Sen. Johnny Ellis said on Twitter that the incident happened Monday after the man ran from the front of the plane to the back, yelling and waving.

    Was it Floriduh man or John Cole?

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    @Cheryl Rofer: we’ll see if trump falls for this power play that you probably learn in your first class at business school…

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    TenguPhule says:

    @germy:

    You’ve gone too far this time. We’re suing.

    Wikileaks is suing.

    Excuse me for a moment.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: I seem to recall someone here on the front page mentioning that the exercises were going to be an issue. Eez a puzzlement!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Is Kim going to funnel $500,000 into a Trump Organization project? If not, then unlikely.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @germy:
    Oh noes, watch out Guardian, Wikileaks is gonna sue you. That’ll learn’em.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    I hate to leave this party when it’s just starting to get going, but I’ll be back in an hour or two.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Adam L Silverman: HOOCOODANODE?????

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    @Cheryl Rofer:

    State Department appears to have been taken by surprise by North Korea

    Well that’s what happens when you don’t employ anybody.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: You ever try to rebook one leg of a flight through the Defense Travel System (DTS) once the tickets have been issued and the official travel has started? If you’re lucky you can do it in about 12 hours. Now imagine doing that for the US Army Pacific headquarters, the US Air Force Pacific headquarters, the US Navy Pacific headquarters, the Special Operations Command Pacific headquarters, the I Corps headquarters, the 25th Infantry Division headquarters, the 3rd Marine Division headquarters, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force Pacific headquarters, all the Opposing Force role players from their units and departments, all the observer controllers, all the senior mentors, etc. In one fell swoop you could pretty much shut down all the air carriers flying to and from Seoul.

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    @Cheryl Rofer: With photos of your grey and white kittehs?

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    eric says:

    @TenguPhule: Wikileaks cannot sue. Assange has to sue and there is NO WAY he subjects himself to the jurisdiction of any Court in Britain or the US. From the story: “Assange hacked into the communications system within the embassy and had his own satellite internet access, according to a source who wished to remain anonymous. By penetrating the embassy’s firewall, Assange was able to access and intercept the official and personal communications of staff, the source claimed.”

    Libel is a personal tort and the plaintiff is Assange, not the entity.

    Wake me when it’s over.

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    @eric:

    Wake me when it’s over.

    You’re gonna need a feeding tube, lots of saline, and a catheter.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Major Major Major Major: And for all the accolades I heard about M Pompeo, IMO he does not seem to be a very bright individual.

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    bjacques says:

    The world Assange worked so hard to create is *so* eager to embrace him!

    We have such sights to show you! May the face you see across the desk in Gitmo be Gina’s.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    [Katy Tur] got sucked in by Chuck Todd’s Eau de Broder!

    I’m dyin’ here…

    Eau de Broder: For the Man Who Wants to See Both Sides…Who’s Up For Both Sides…Who’s Strong Enough to Work Both Sides…Who Wants to Smell Like Both Sides…

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    State Department appears to have been taken by surprise by North Korea potentially cancelling the Kim Jung Un Summit:

    You can tell all the experienced people have long since left.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Is a puzzlement, wrapped in a mystery, stuffed in an enigma. Or something.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Trump caved to China, so North Korea might as well give it a try.

    Trump didn’t cave to China; China bribed Trump.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Goodbye, top admin cyber policy role. We hardly knew ye.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Now imagine doing that for the US Army Pacific headquarters, the US Air Force Pacific headquarters, the US Navy Pacific headquarters, the Special Operations Command Pacific headquarters, the I Corps headquarters, the 25th Infantry Division headquarters, the 3rd Marine Division headquarters, the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force Pacific headquarters, all the Opposing Force role players from their units and departments, all the observer controllers, all the senior mentors, etc. In one fell swoop you could pretty much shut down all the air carriers flying to and from Seoul.

    Remember this is Trump we’re talking about. Why would he care about problems that happen to other people?

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    Aleta says:

    And to thank the Ecuadorians for their trouble and hospitality, Assange et al are likely trying to inspire a deluge of harassing calls and emails.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Trump didn’t cave to China; China bribed Trump.

    Watch Trump cave to China’s soybean tariffs.

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    Tazj says:

    @Corner Stone: She’s been disappointing lately. She also praised Politico’s article stating Cohen’s slush fund was just business as usual in D.C.

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    Corner Stone says:

    So, looks like we have 4 D Senators ready to vote to confirm Haspel. I always wonder what well of cowardice they look into when doing vote calculations on something like this. Do any of them think they will get a single vote from someone who hears a radio blurb and says to themself, “Well, I may need to deeply consider my vote this Fall now that they approved that Trump pick for CIA!”

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Corner Stone: This should work out as well for them as the Pruitt and Devos nominations did.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: I think the calculus here is that that if they vote Haspel down, they get Cotton as the nominee, not the Deputy Director of National Intelligence who should’ve been nominated to begin with. And while almost everyone in the Senate, in both parties, would be glad to get rid of Cotton, having him as DCI, with Pompeo as SecState and Bolton as AP-NSA, would be a disaster.

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    clay says:

    @germy: Wikileaks is now complaining about “anonymous libel”? That’s rich.

    But what do you expect from a secretive organization dedicated to radical transparancy. (Errr… for them, not us.)

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    JPL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Xi has a say in this, and even Kim know that.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: While I agree that Cotton is a disaster, what are we saying if we now affirm a torturer to CIA Director? This was the poison that everyone who vocally backed the “look forward, not backward” mentality allowed to seep in. Now we are sending the message that it’s ok. This isn’t just about a person.
    We are in some stage of the path to war with Iran directly because no one who was responsible for Iraq ever faced a single day of punishment.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @TenguPhule:
    In some ways I hope he doesn’t. Supporters in those areas would be hurt and hopefully Republican pols in those same areas would also get hurt

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    HeleninEire says:

    “less rapey” “fewer fascists” is why I live here.

    Thank you, Betty.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: The irony is that by the time Trump does cave it will be too late, the Chinese will have locked in contracts with Brazil and the American farmers will be SOL when it comes to the biggest markets.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: I’m not endorsing her. I don’t think she’s a good pick. I’m just stating what I think the calculus is.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    having him as DCI, with Pompeo as SecState and Bolton as AP-NSA, would be a disaster.

    So we’ll see him as the next nominee in another Friedman unit then.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @TenguPhule:
    So he’s fucked either way? Good! Couldn’t happen to a more evil, stupid asshole

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Corner Stone: The thing is, I don’t have a lot of respect for the other side either. Though there IS the whole thing about continuing to support an avowed sex offender who’s also blatantly racist and corrupt.

    I guess they don’t respect US because we “hate America” or something.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I am sure he’s the perfect guy for this position.
    Bloomberg.com
    Trump Nominates McConnell and Chao’s Brother-In-Law to Lead Pension Agency
    “Hartogensis helps govern his family’s trust and is the CEO of Auric Technology, a closely held software company, according to his LinkedIn page. In making the announcement, the White House did not provide biographical information about him or answer questions about his relationship to Chao and McConnell, who are married. Hartogensis is married to one of Chao’s sisters, according to a person familiar with the matter.”

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m just stating what I think the calculus is.

    Syphlis or Chlamydia?

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    Jeffro says:

    Ah, I do loves me some Jennifer Rubin teeing off on Trumpov: The Worst Deal-Maker Ever

    Trump has a quartet of disastrous personal qualities that raise the potential that he’ll give away the store for the sake of a “win.”

    First, he is almost entirely ignorant of the details of policy…
    Second, Trump has no fixed ideology to guide him…
    Third, Trump is a narcissist to beat all narcissists…
    Finally, Trump is weirdly contemptuous of our allies…

    In sum, the dangers posed by a rogue president are serious and multifaceted. The best his advisers can do would be to limit his one-on-one time with adversaries and impress upon him that he doesn’t want to be labeled a sucker. We should wish them well in their effort to restrain and guide Trump; our security and prosperity depend on it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷: They’re all fucked. China will probably get more of what they asked for and deliver nothing of value to Trump in return.

    Its poetic irony at its worst.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Trump Nominates McConnell and Chao’s Brother-In-Law to Lead Pension Agency

    Are you fucking kidding me? This live action remake of Goodfellas is fucking terrible I tell you!

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @TenguPhule:
    It’s ¿Por qué no los dos? , ya maroon.

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    J R in WV says:

    @germy:

    Je has a wife??!!! Where has she been living while the MR has been living rent free in the embassy? Does he support her at all?

    Strange, she ins’t mentioned in the news stories about him…

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    ET says:

    oooo the irony. or is it schadenfreude…… Assange and his crew help elect tRump and in return the Ecuadoran government is try to curry favor with tRump boots Assange.

    I guess no “good” deed goes unpunished – said with a hefty dose of sarcasm…..

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    Corner Stone says:

    @MisterForkbeard: That’s not the point of contention, IMO. We don’t go around demanding respect and pouting like babies when our positions or beliefs are challenged. But that is all the other side does – act like full on hatemongering assholes who profess the worst possible attitudes, beliefs and policies. And *then* demand they get their respect no matter how fucked and fucking evil their viewpoints are.
    There is no basis for comparison saying, “neither side respects the other”. Well, sure, I guess. They want to enact policies that kill people and destroy families, and then demand respect for it. We look for ways to strengthen situations and policies that are more pro-equal rights and don’t give a damn if they respect us personally or not. Or should I say, respect is due for all the hard work but we don’t cry about it in a fetal ball when it’s not forthcoming.

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    Obvious Russian Troll says:

    @J R in WV: I think that’s his mother.

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    catclub says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Luckily the government buys refundable/returnable tickets.

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    Captain C says:

    @TenguPhule: I can’t wait for the discovery on this (I’m assuming they have such a process in the UK).

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @TenguPhule: Bonus points: If Putin has Assange murdered, he and The Left will blame it on the United States and make him a martyr. Good times.

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    Vhh says:

    @Scott: Easy. Ex res Correa was a Putin pal.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    I would bet good money that Assange is still stinking up the broom closet at the embassy on this date next year. The ineptitude of the Ecuadorian government must be experienced to be believed.

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    Captain C says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Hartogensis helps govern his family’s trust and is the CEO of Auric Technology

    We are living in a bad Bond film, or knockoff.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Tazj: Yes. Looks like Cult of The Savvy has lived on to a new generation.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Watch this scene carefully, and try to understand it so that you don’t misuse that quote ever again.

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    Doug R says:

    @TenguPhule: insert joke here about seeing the bush too early

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    burnspbesq says:

    @germy:

    Bwahahahaha. Wikileaks can’t sue; they aren’t the victim of the alleged libel. And even in the UK, truth is an absolute defense.

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    cwmoss says:

    @Adam L Silverman: They want Trump either to beg or to start RocketMan insults again. NK wins either way.

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    Marc McKenzie says:

    @Corner Stone: Oh for fucks sake, why? Why do the media keep going back to this fetid waterhole? It is not true!

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    Marc McKenzie says:

    @Jeffro: Well, yeah. And Hillary pointed that out to us.

    But you know, emails.

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    catclub says:

    @Corner Stone:

    CEO of Auric Technology

    as in Auric ….. Goldfinger??

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    Corner Stone says:

    @catclub: With a name like Hartogensis…doesn’t he have to be an evil villain?

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    The Moar You Know says:

    This is one of my greatest fears

    We must not Julian fall into the hands of the USA!

    It’s better to fight now & prevent that, than try to protect him once they have him in Gitmo

    Please join the global campaign to protect & free him NOW!

    #FreeAssange#ReconnectJulian #Unity4J https://t.co/UTnphkoCDE
    — Mrs. Christine Assange (@AssangeMrs) May 15, 2018

    @germy: Mrs. Christine Assange is his wretched mother. Good going, mom. Hell of a kid you raised there.

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    @TenguPhule:

    Watch Trump cave to China’s soybean tariffs.

    Let me respond with a very wise quote.

    Remember this is Trump we’re talking about. Why would he care about problems that happen to other people?

    He doesn’t give a fuck about whether his voters suffer. He might cave because the media is telling him he looks like a dumbass thanks to that trade war.

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    Mary G says:

    Assange is pretty much a prisoner now, isn’t he?

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    retr2327 says:

    @LAO: Wait, does this mean tRump made room on his shelf for his Nobel peace prize too soon?

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    ruemara says:

    I don’t give a fuck about Assange and I’m fairly sure he’ll be retired in the appropriate fashion. Sadly, I also don’t really care about Haspel. I may not want her to have the job, but did anyone seriously think Trump was going to offer it to a decent human? There was another extremist judge appointed without fanfare today. Far more concerned about that.

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    @Mary G:
    Yes, because he skipped bail in Britain. He has a habit of taking other people’s money, not providing, and then running away from his bills.

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    germy says:

    Pamela Anderson asks Kanye to help Julian Assange

    The Daily Dot-May 10, 2018

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    germy says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    He has a habit of taking other people’s money, not providing, and then running away from his bills.

    Trump.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @catclub: Yes, but to reschedule travel for everyone at the exercise because we stop it prematurely is going to eat up a ton of money and personnel hours.

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    germy says:

    @ruemara:

    There was another extremist judge appointed without fanfare today. Far more concerned about that.

    Yes, and those judges are young (at least in judge years). They’ll be wreaking havoc decades and decades from now.

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    @germy:
    From what I’ve read, they are very similar assholes, yes.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Obvious Russian Troll:

    OK, I’ll buy that.

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    Just one more canuck says:

    @catclub: the assumption is that Putin doesn’t like loose ends

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @germy: Damn, someone hit the Douche Trifecta right there!

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    rikyrah says:

    Phuck outta here, Warner.

    My statement on the nomination of Gina Haspel to be CIA Director: pic.twitter.com/eEgyBXC1tW

    — Mark Warner (@MarkWarner) May 15, 2018

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    germy says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Damn, someone hit the Douche Trifecta right there!

    Some headlines… there’s just no need to read the article. The headline says it all.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    As I keep trying to explain to people about the whole Roman Polanski thing, as a rule judges and courts do not find it amusing when someone jumps bail, and they are never willing to let bygones be bygones, regardless of the underlying crime.

    Polanski is not being refused entry to the US over the rape charges. He’s being refused entry because he skipped bail, and the LA DA’s office is unwilling to send a message that it’s okay to jump bail as long as you’re rich and famous.

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    The Moar You Know says:

    Pamela Anderson asks Kanye to help Julian Assange

    The Daily Dot-May 10, 2018

    @germy: There is a theory that this world – the one we all live in – is actually hell. This tweet goes a long way towards confirming that.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yeah, I have to agree that that won’t be a deterrent to Trump. He doesn’t care — it’s not his money. In fact, it could make him feel more powerful to screw all those people over and make them scramble based on his whim.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @TenguPhule: Even if not experienced they should have eexpected something. I certainly did. Kim was always going make some demand for Trump to prove his subservience. And now that Trump has visions of a Nobel Prize in his brain, who knows what could happen?

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    rikyrah says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Having a live witness actually testifying that they were in the pay of Russian Intelligence to subvert Democratic institutions would be a level of public proof that would not be in Russia’s best interest.

    There are already a carpet of Russian bodies from the Trump conspiracy and Britain already has Russian agents operating there.

    So very true.
    Which is why I hope someone snatches his azz up, and shoves him onto a plane for Mueller.

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    ruemara says:

    @germy: I’m not usually reactionary or violent, but I think anyone who has benefited from this admin should be removed and investigated for treason. Thiiiiiis close to thinking summary execution is fair.

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    trollhattan says:

    @germy:
    Rodman would be my go-to guy for this mission. ETA Has Pamela Anderson confused herself with Jenny McCarthy?

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    JPL says:

    Trump is gonna be upset.. First NK and now this

    JUST IN: Judge in D.C. denies Manafort motion to dismiss charges. Says “the indictment falls squarely within that portion of the authority granted to the Special Counsel,” and it was “logical and appropriate” for investigators looking at coordination to focus on him.

    https://twitter.com/mattzap/status/996493036325625861

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    chopper says:

    @Corner Stone:

    damn, there goes that nobel prize.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @JPL: Awww. And here I thought the sky was falling.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Syphlis or Chlamydia?

    You’ve been reading The Odyssey again, haven’t you?

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    Leto says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You ever try to rebook one leg of a flight through use the Defense Travel System (DTS)

    If ever there was proof that hell is real, it’s DTS.

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    germy says:

    @ruemara:

    I think anyone who has benefited from this admin should be removed and investigated

    I’ve been told it’s impossible. But it it is revealed he took office illegally, how can his appointments be considered legal? Up to and including Gorsuch.

    @trollhattan:

    Rodman would be my go-to guy for this mission.

    A job for Dr. Jill Stein. “You’re welcome, America!”

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    sdhays says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep, Trump will “give away the store” because it’s not his store. He’s selling it. What makes him a shitty deal-maker is that he has no idea how much the store is worth, so he will definitely sell it for pennies.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @J R in WV:

    Je has a wife??!!! Where has she been living while the MR has been living rent free in the embassy? Does he support her at all?

    Strange, she ins’t mentioned in the news stories about him…

    Well, I suppose she could be his mother….

    ETA: Obvious Russian Troll got there an hour ago, @136

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    ruemara says:

    @germy: Trump has been doing the impossible, aided & abetted by the GOP. It’s time we took advantage that this shit hasn’t been codified into legal consequences and do some impossible & permanently punitive things.

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    JPL says:

    @MisterForkbeard: The VA court has not decided yet, but even if the judge decides to drop charges, Manafort will still be tried for crimes against the U.S.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Roger Moore: This article argues that Trump caved to China, but yeah that China investment in Indonesia.

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    sdhays says:

    @JPL: Not the same judge who was stupid-curious earlier. I believe we’re still waiting on his ruling. But the better prognosticators seem to think that that guy likes to huff and puff, but doesn’t have a lot of leeway to rule against the Special Council. If he does, he’ll be at great risk of being overturned on appeal, and this ruling should add some pressure on him to do the right thing.

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    Mart says:

    i am so old I remember arguing with those R’s and D’s who realized the Iraq war casus belli was a con job; that Assange was a good guy. I now blame the Russian bots.

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    JPL says:

    @sdhays: That is what I think, also.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Guilty as charged.

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    hrumpole says:

    @LAO: That is, after a polite conversation with one of the Special Counsel’s team in front of a grand jury.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @rikyrah: I do really like Kamala. Glad she’s my Senator.

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    RedDirtGirl says:

    @TenguPhule: Man, that’s dark! And all too possible!

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    Barbara says:

    @sdhays: Judge Ellis likes to talk through every last issue that occurs to him. Takes a long time to get through even simple pleas. This is according to a friend.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @sdhays:

    but doesn’t have a lot of leeway to rule against the Special Council

    Trump, is that you?

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    Corner Stone says:

    August J. Pollak
    ‏ @AugustJPollak
    1h1 hour ago

    What really blows my mind is just how beneficial for the long term viability of the Democratic Party AND the nation as a whole the decision to completely avoid holding a single member of the Bush administration responsible for torturing people was. Yes indeedy.

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    Mary G says:

    Joe Manchin, Heidi Heitkamp, and Joe Donnelly could take some lessons on how to Democrat in a red state:

    Doug Jones, speaking of the new memorial in Alabama, says the impulse to lynch has filtered down into our present criminal justice system.That straightened me up.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) May 15, 2018

    Tell the truth, because offering these little concessions will just make the right demand more and bigger ones. Doug Jones is also a “no” on Haspel.

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    Baud says:

    According to LGM, in the name of intellectual diversity, the NYT has hired a pro-Trump columnist.

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblo.....qus_thread

    Have I mentioned what garbage they are?

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone: I thought we healed the nation by holding Hillary accountable for all of Bush’s sins.

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    Kay says:

    Donald Trump
    Andrew Harrer | Bloomberg | Getty Images
    Donald Trump
    Strange as it sounded, Donald Trump’s reversal on punishing a Chinese telecommunications giant fits his pattern: Facing powerful adversaries, the tough-talking president usually shrinks from a fight.

    “Strange as it sounds”.

    Not strange at all. Bullies are cowards. As any 6th grader with anything on the ball could tell you.

    They have to stop falling for fake tough guys. I don’t know- counseling? Some kind of retreat? They get into these bad relationships over and over again.

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    Baud says:

    @Kay: It’s not a bad relationship. It’s a very lucrative relationship for both sides.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Mary G: Doug Jones is going to get turfed in AL in a couple years. He may as well stand for something in the interim.

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    @Baud: Snooze Hour had that dude on to yell at Charlie Sykes how the Orange One’s acolytes are not racist. Garbage Times has gone full Nazi.

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    Kay says:

    @Mary G:

    I think about it with the chokeholds. I can’t be the only one. Lotta unnecessary strangling going on. Makes me wonder. Where did that come from?

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    Corner Stone says:

    This fucking Cryptkeeper lawyer who used to work for Trump on Ari’s show right now. That dude needs a mental health worker to assist him off stage.

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    Peale says:

    @Gelfling 545: his head will explode. At one hand he wants to believe that North Korea is begging for mercy. In the other hand, he probably wanted to start charging South Korea for the expense of those exercises and pocket the money. He can’t cancel them.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Charlie Sykes is fucking garbage.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    Have I mentioned what garbage they are?

    No, tell us.

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    japa21 says:

    @germy: This came up during the whole birther thing. It was pretty much determined that even if it was found Obama did not meet the qualifications to be President and was forced to leave office, it would not change anything that was done while he was in office.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone: Makes sense. Sets himself up nicely for a potential spot in the next Dem administration.

    @schrodingers_cat: I believe the preferred term is Deplorable (and technically, that describes only half of them.)

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule: How many right-wingers have they hired now in exchange for hiring Michelle Goldberg?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Mary G: Marc Maron (stand-up comic/podcaster-interviewer) described his visit to the memorial on his show on Monday, he sounded audibly moved, even shaken, several days later.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Corner Stone: he certainly sounds feeble, but I think he was strong enough to throw Rudi and Cohen under a bus. If he was speaking with trump’s knowledge as he seemed to indicate.

    Of course, trump is both mercurial and a coward, so Rudi would have to accept dismissal. Unless Ivanka makes a call.

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    Elizabelle says:

    I’d be good with the door hitting Julian’s ass on the way out. Please make it happen, Ecuador.

    Bought the Pete Souza book of Obama photographs today; saw it on a table at Costco. Paging through a bit, but it made me so sad. Like coming back to your beloved city, but it’s been bombed; it’s not recognizable.

    Anyway, I will enjoy looking at some elegance and class.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Baud: Did you happen to see that Fuck the Fucking Vichy NY Times went with “Liberals, you’re not as smart as you think you are” this weekend? Some idjit professor from, I am embarrassed to say, the University of Virginia. I didn’t read it, but come on NY Times. You are just trolling us at this point.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Just the physical design of the memorial breaks my heart. There’s no mistaking what it’s about.

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    Baud says:

    @Elizabelle: No, I try to ignore them and only hear about stuff they do when it comes from other sources. I get that it’s valuable to pay attention and document the atrocities, but it’s not my thing. The NYT really does disrespect its readers.

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    Jeffro says:

    @germy:

    Pamela Anderson asks Kanye to help Julian Assange

    Wait…am I high? I must be high. Totally like stratospheric high.

    Next thing, you’ll tell me that John Bolton and Larry Kudlow have White House jobs, or something…

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    Jeffro says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Caught between a rock and a sore place?

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    japa21 says:

    OT: Just received a call from my oldest son. His wife’s father passed away during his sleep last night. He was a Vietnam vet and when I first met him I was wondering what this guy was all about. Long scraggly beard, riding a souped up Harley. Big stocky guy. IOW, I wouldn’t want to get on his bad side. Turns out he was a gentle giant. Worked for Caterpillar in Peoria for years, life long union man. He also, although being WWC and over 60, could not stand Trump or just about anything Republican. Always enjoyed when we got together. We had almost nothing in common but our humanity. He will be missed.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Jeffro: You may…uhmm…need to have a seat.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Kay:

    They have to stop falling for fake tough guys. I don’t know- counseling? Some kind of retreat? They get into these bad relationships over and over again.

    Remember, the press has a big problem with men abusing women; more bullies and cowards.

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    chris says:

    @Baud: GAH! I thought you were kidding. JFC, that’s awful.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Here’s Assmunch’s song

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    MomSense says:

    @Corner Stone:

    They lose their tv gigs if they don’t do enough bothsiderism.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Elizabelle: Jamelle Bouie found that prof had written pretty much the same column for the WaPo in 2010

    b-boy bouiebaisse @ jbouie
    also shoutout to alexander writing this exact same article eight years ago

    Media Matters was on it back then, too

    Washington Post actively sought out “liberals are condescending” piece
    Gerard Alexander: I can only tell you that the Post editor I dealt with searched me out, and were as encouraging as any editor could conceivably be.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: What a dick. Lazy one, too.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @trollhattan:
    I read an article that Pamela Anderson absolutely loves Putin’s Russia for whatever reason. I think she even tried lobbying him for animal rights. Like he would give a shit about that. He doesn’t even care about human rights.

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    MomSense says:

    @Elizabelle:

    My kids gave it to me for Christmas. They waited in line to get it autographed. It’s so bittersweet.

    I still can’t believe we went from hero to zero.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

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    @Elizabelle: I got mine at Costco a couple of weeks ago.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Baud:
    The NYT’s approach to op-ed “diversity” led them to hire smug, ignorant right-winger Bill Kristol, and when they had to fire Kristol for incompetence it led them to hire smug, ignorant right-winger Ross Douthat.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @TenguPhule: Moron Homer’s two great works, The Idiot and The Oddity…

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    Kathleen says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The story line will be “The mean libruls made him/her do it”, and the Mainslime Media will procreate that poultry.

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    Kathleen says:

    @Barry: Subtext being “The Democrats are Satanic but we have to assume a false pretense of balance.”

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    @Corner Stone: Yes, but Buskirk is like toxic radioactive waste with a half life of million years.

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    jonas says:

    @Corner Stone: I think in cases like this, they’re not thinking about (as if they ever do) individual voters, but of certain org endorsements and/or big donors who could be turned off by this or that vote.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @jonas: That’s fine. But what big donor could they woo or offend by the vote to deny Haspel this job?

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