Repub Venality Open Thread: Paul Ryan, Within the Limits of the Law

If there’s any doubt as to why Trump figured his bagman could practically plaster “THIS SPACE FOR RENT” signs on the Oval Office, here’s a Politico story — “Sheldon Adelson kicks in $30M to stop Democratic House takeover”:

The long-sought donation was sealed last week when, according to two senior Republicans, House Speaker Paul Ryan flew to Las Vegas to meet with the billionaire at his Venetian Hotel. Also at the meeting with Adelson was his wife, Miriam; Norm Coleman, the former Minnesota senator who chairs the Republican Jewish Coalition; Corry Bliss, who oversees the super PAC; and Jake Kastan, Ryan’s No. 2 political aide. They laid out a case to Adelson about how crucial it is to protect the House.

As a federally elected official, Ryan is not permitted to solicit seven-figure political donations. When Ryan (R-Wis.) left the room, Coleman made the ask and secured the $30 million contribution…

Adelson’s donation comes at a perilous moment for House Republicans, who are facing growing headwinds as they try to save their majority. With dozens of incumbents being outraised by emboldened Democratic challengers, desperate party officials have been hoping that Adelson — the party’s most prominent benefactor — would give more than he traditionally does, and earlier in the election cycle.

Adelson came through by giving now, as opposed to waiting until late summer or the fall.

The $30 million contribution is three times as much as Adelson gave to [the Congressional Leadership Fund] in 2016. And the cash comes much earlier in the cycle: In 2016, Adelson gave CLF $10 million in August, as the campaign headed into the homestretch…

Accepting a “love offering” is not illegal if you’re careful to be out of the room when the check gets passed.

Donald Trump is not some kind of malignant oddity that took over the formerly innocent Republican Party. Donald Trump is just the latest refinement on the GOP standard.

104 replies
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    Yarrow says:

    Paul Ryan is a traitor.

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    SFAW says:

    I’m trying to understand how asking for, and receiving, welfare from wealthy donors squares with Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.”

    As I’ve said before, I hope that motherfucker suffers enough personal financial catastrophe that he becomes one of those people he’s been trying to kill for at least eight years (so far).

    ETA: What this plot needs is some Orcs to go after Ryan. Big fucking Yrch, with big fucking swords.

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    Norm Coleman! Remember him?

    @SFAW: doesn’t Ryan come from personal financial catastrophe, his family was propped up by SSDI and Pell grants?

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    Chet Murthy says:

    It’s an OT, so I’ll go OT. I flew (first time in 2yr, thank goodness) to DFW for a personal thing. Lyft driver from the airport was perfectly friendly and nice and all. During the trip (I grew up here, so discussing lots of things that had changed), the (white, female) driver mentioned homeless people. And then, mentioned stopping at an intersection where a couple (male/female) of homeless people panhandled, and rolled down window to say “you’re young and healthy; you can donate plasma, get a hotel room, clean your clothes in the bathtub, interview for a temp job, get yourself off the street”. Donate. Plasma.

    Just like that. Just like that. The bun comes off the hamburger, and you can -see- the worms. And the saddest part was, the driver was most definitely not “comfortable”. Last job mentioned had been gas station attendant. Their spouse had a decent job, but that’s it.

    Lordy, the hatred in people I used to consider my fellow citizens.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    “Homeland security secretary close to resigning after Drumpf berated her in front of full cabinet meeting, yesterday.” ~ CNN

    I’m old enough to remember when John Kelly thought women should be “sacred”.

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    SFAW says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    doesn’t Ryan come from personal financial catastrophe, his family was propped up by SSDI and Pell grants?

    His father died. I don’t recall reading that ZEGS was ever poor, thanks to the Government and SSDI.

    ETA: So he wasn’t even destitute at that point, yet he was happy to mooch off the Government. And, as far as I know, he’s never held a non-public job, except for jerking off driving his Wienermobile

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    NotMax says:

    Open Thread?

    Meant earlier to put up a link to the USGS page of volcano cams on the Big Island. The one erupting so spectacularly is Kilauea, in the east rift zone.

    Also too, FYI:

    Pair of offbeat Japanese flicks, if that floats yer wasen, on TCM this weekend.

    Saturday, 2:00 a.m. – Funeral Parade of Roses. The Japanese transvestite and gay underground of 1970.

    Saturday, 4:00 a.m. – Crazed Fruit. Racy by any standard for its time (1956!) tale of hormone addled young sun worshippers. English title could just as well have been Beach Blanket Banging (although it predated the squeaky clean American beach movie crazelet).

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    dmsilev says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Yep, and by his own description he’s dreamed ever since college of preventing other people from following in his footsteps.

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    B.B.A. says:

    All the “this is not normal” takes are rubbish. As Ezra Klein explained in his most recent piece, this is totally normal. Obama was the unusual one.

    America was never great.

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    SFAW says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    I’m old enough to remember when John Kelly thought women should be “sacred”.

    He probably meant “scared,” but his dyslexia kicked in.

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    @Major Major Major Major: No, his family is well off. His father died when Ryan was young so he got Social Security survivors benefits.

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    eric says:

    Nothing says we can win based on the power of ideas and on the strength of our accomplishments more than this shameful whorebaggery!

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    Corner Stone says:

    Homeland security secretary close to resigning

    GTFO or STFU

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    dmsilev says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    One persistent issue has been Mr. Trump’s belief that Ms. Nielsen and other officials in the department were resisting his direction that parents should be separated from their children when families cross illegally into the United States, several officials said. The president and his aides in the White House had been pushing a family separation policy for weeks as a way of deterring families from trying to cross the border illegally.

    Christ, what an asshole.

    (from FTNYT)

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    laura says:

    Apologies if someone beat me to it, but Fuck Justice Anthony Kennedy and his crucial vote on Citizens United Not Terrified.
    If this isn’t the very definition of quid pro quo, I’ll eat a bug.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    The blatant venality of the Republicans sure remind me of the end of the Delay era, like with that South Cal Rep who went full Guided Age and handed out a menu for what services bribes purchased from him.

    Still, how long before the Republicans are wearing corporate logos on their suites like race car drivers?

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    A White House official mocked Sen. John McCain’s brain cancer diagnosis at an internal meeting on Thursday, a day after the Arizona Republican announced his opposition to President Trump’s nominee for CIA director, Gina Haspel.

    Special assistant Kelly Sadler made the derisive comments during a closed-door White House meeting of about two-dozen communications staffers on Thursday morning.

    “It doesn’t matter, he’s dying anyway,” Sadler said, according to a source familiar with the remarks at the meeting. (link)

    the best people

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    dmsilev says:

    So, I’m confused. I thought the GOP Tax Cut, glory be unto its name, was going to be the triumphant achievement through which the GOP would win elections.

    Or did they just mean that the tax cut bill cut enough off of Adelson’s taxes that he comped them 1% of the difference?

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    Yarrow says:

    @NotMax: I’ve been following the Hawaii volcano eruption. What a terrible situation for those people whose homes are being swallowed up by lava. Nothing they can do. Amazing videos day after day.

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    SFAW says:


    America was never great.

    Well, fortunately for you, the barriers to emigrate FROM this country are a lot lower than the barriers for those trying to get in.

    No need to send us a postcard from wherever you end up.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:


    I’m trying to understand how asking for, and receiving, welfare from wealthy donors squares with Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.”

    The same Ayn Rand who was happy to take SS in her time.

    Also, keep in mind these people also see themselves as the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.

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    NotMax says:

    Yup, yup and thrice yup.

    My point here is that collusion, treason, white supremacy, political legitimacy—these are major themes that will preoccupy our minds as much as they have dominated our understanding of Donald Trump. But let’s remember the simplest explanation is always the best, that this presidency may be best characterized by corruption. Source

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    Yarrow says:

    Ohio people, does she have a chance in this district?

    Women across the country have been motivated to run for office since President Donald Trump’s election — and one of them, Rachel Crooks, is also one of the many women who has accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

    On Tuesday, Crooks, a Democrat, won an uncontested primary in Ohio for a seat in the state’s House of Representatives. She’ll face second-term Republican Rep. Bill Reineke in November, and if she wins, she’ll be the first Trump accuser to hold elected office.

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    trollhattan says:

    Here’s hoping/wishing Melania separates Trump from his kid and a metric buttload of “his” money one soon day.

    How you like them apples, big boy?

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    SFAW says:

    @Chet Murthy:

    Thanks. I knew he wasn’t poor, but forgot about how well-off he was.

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    trollhattan says:

    The vaunted Sov…Russian defence.

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin scored five goals in an exhibition hockey game with former NHL stars on Thursday,” ESPN reports.

    “Five goals was on the low side by Putin’s standards — he scored eight in the 2015 game and seven last year.”

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    SFAW says:


    A corollary to that is what Josh Marshall calls “Trump’s Razor,” which basically says something close to: the stupidest explanation is usually the correct one.

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    MattF says:

    @trollhattan: The goalie’s unfortunate sudden demise was entirely unanticipated.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @dmsilev: “Mr. Trump, with all due respect. Go fuck yourself, you stupid fucking moron.”
    Anything short of that is cowardice or complicit in his regime. I think we know which she is.

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    his crucial vote on Citizens United Not Terrified.

    The case was just about Citizens United. CU Not Timid is an unrelated group founded by Roger Stone.

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @SFAW: Uh, I think you’re being a little harsh. I also think America has also never lived up to our high-flown rhetoric. We’ve done a shit-ton of shitty things, both at home and (esp) all over the world. But I (and, I suspect, @B.B.A., and you too) believe that America can be perfected, improved, made better. I think we all believe though, that that’s not by going back to some time when we were better, but going forward to a time when we will be better than we ever were. And part of doing that is by recognizing when and how we were pretty awful.

    Concretely, look at JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan, Bush41, Bush43. That’s a long, long string of guys doing some pretty evil things overseas. And if we go back to WWI, Wilson was one seriously evil motherfucker. I’ve been reading his words in Tooze’s _The Deluge_, and lordy was he a godforsaken white supremacist. It’s been discussed extensively on LG&M how we did nothing except aid in the immiseration and rapine of the former USSR, after Communism collapsed. Our bankers just signed up with the mobsters to take the place apart, when we could have (as a country) tried to help them create the rule of law. But we didn’t, did we? And some of that blame has to lie with Clinton.

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    trollhattan says:

    The kids are alright, Utah[?!?] edition.

    High schoolers forced Utah to admit climate change is real

    It sounds completely improbable: The Utah Legislature recently adopted a resolution that moves the state from denial of global climate change to the recognition that finding a solution is crucial.

    An obvious question is how this flip-flop occurred in a legislature with a Republican super-majority of 83 percent, in a state that produces more than 90 percent of its electricity from fossil fuels. Students at Logan High School can tell you the answer: For nearly two years, they have been working to make the Legislature budge. They educated themselves about the science of climate change and formed alliances with other students and business leaders throughout the state.

    Most of all, the teenagers never stopped. They simply refused to give up.

    Their efforts began in 2016, when they learned that, six years earlier, the Utah Legislature had passed a resolution declaring that climate change should be ignored until the science was more convincing. Some Logan High School students found this incredible. They’d witnessed firsthand how climate change was contributing to longer and more intense fire seasons, and they experienced Utah’s dwindling snowpack and increasing water scarcity.

    “My generation and generations to come will inherit the many threats that climate change poses,” said Piper Christian, one of these students. She decided to take action.

    My fervent hope is these kids dog Willard on his senate campaign/coronation.

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    TenguPhule says:


    Paul Ryan is a traitor.

    Paul Ryan is a very bad traitor.

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    trollhattan says:

    He should have never gone for the complementary sushi.

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    NotMax says:

    Infrastructure Week, we hardly knew ye.

    White House Admits Trump’s Infrastructure Promise Isn’t Happening
    As it turned out, we have reprised much of the excitement of the 1930s — presidents demanding the imprisonment of journalists and members of the opposing party, Nazis holding torchlight parades — but no infrastructure bill has materialized. After months of inaction, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders announced today, “I don’t know that there will be one by the end of the year.” And so the once-fabled infrastructure bill has died a quiet death. Source

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    Chet Murthy says:

    @NotMax: Damn! Even Hitler got the autobahns built, and massive synthetic oil (or was it gas? I forget) plants and things going. All -before- the war. Shitmidas really is for shit *grin*

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    doesn’t Ryan come from personal financial catastrophe, his family was propped up by SSDI and Pell grants?

    Yes. yes he did.

    Sucked the government’s Teat his whole life, little Ryan has.

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    Yarrow says:

    This is the craziest headline.

    EXCLUSIVE: Steve Bannon was target of bribery plot by top Qatari who invested in Ice Cube’s basketball league to get to Trump’s strategist and boasted ‘Mike Flynn took our money’, rapper claims in court

    It’s the Daily Mail so proceed with caution.

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    JPL says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: I read that the WH said it was true and the joke fell flat. wtf

    A WH official confirms WH aide Kelly Sadler mocked John McCain’s cancer diagnosis saying “he’s dying anyway” in response to his opposition to Haspel nomination. The “joke… fell flat” the official said.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @trollhattan: what a great and hopeful story. Go youth!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Also, keep in mind these people also see themselves as the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.

    More like the Resistance. And just as competent.

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    Yarrow says:

    @NotMax: Noooooo! Not Infrastructure Week. Long live Infrastructure Week!

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    SFAW says:

    @Chet Murthy:

    I know you mean well, and I generally like/appreciate your comments, but please spare me the attempt at a history lesson. I’m reasonably aware of the sins of the various Presidents around since I was old enough to understand that shit. The imperialism is problematic, to put it very tactfully, but it’s not as if America is all evil all the time.

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    TenguPhule says:


    What Trump doesn’t seem to understand about military [pay] raises

    Aside from everything?

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    maya says:

    Ah yes. Shelly Adelson. The Saul Alinsky of the Gaming Community: The Anti-Soros: Successful casino operator….as opposed to…..
    And, like Trump, absolutely, positively, NOT mobbed up.

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    SFAW says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    The same Ayn Rand who was happy to take SS in her time.

    SS? Or was it Medicare? (I know, I know, por que no los dos?

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    TenguPhule says:


    “I don’t know that there will be one by the end of the year.”

    Somebody check the pigs. SHS may have actually spoken a truth.

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    TenguPhule says:


    The goalie’s unfortunate sudden demise was entirely unanticipated.

    Worst case of suicide the coroner had ever seen.

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    Baud says:


    I believe May 23, 1878 was a particularly good day.

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    oatler. says:

    In related news, Tony Scalia continues to roast in hell.

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    Ah yes. Shelly Adelson. The Saul Alinsky of the Gaming Community: The Anti-Soros.

    What exactly do these people have in common besides the obvious?

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    Brachiator says:

    As a federally elected official, Ryan is not permitted to solicit seven-figure political donations. When Ryan (R-Wis.) left the room, Coleman made the ask and secured the $30 million contribution…

    Democratic Party midterm campaign ads are practically writing themselves.

    “Republicans sell themselves to rich plutocrats. They don’t even try to hide it.”

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    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us? says:

    @NotMax: Yes and we can bitch all we want, and the people that screamed about Clinton corruption for years won’t care. They don’t have principles, they have a side and as long as their side is doing it that’s A-OK. They will work themselves into high dudgeon again when a Democrat is in office but until then there is literally nothing these guys can do that will piss off the base. And, lest we say the base in uninformed, no they are not. They know what’s going on and are perfectly fine with corruption, election stealing, etc. and having a double standard where the Democrats have to be clean but the Republicans can get as dirty as they want. These are the new rules they play by. We need to figure out how to beat them anyway.

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    Baud says:


    LGM has a post up showing how the NYT will respond to that.


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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    His father died when Ryan was young so he got Social Security survivors benefits.

    I got Social Security survivors’ benefits after my mother died, and I managed not to turn into a ginormous asshole. Or at least not a Randian one.

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    The Lodger says:

    @Chet Murthy: Short of another Marshall Plan, I don’t see how we could have implemented the rule of law in the former Soviet Union. Our capitalist overlords weren’t interested in anything other than what they got: oligarchy without oversight.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Also, keep in mind these people also see themselves as the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.

    I’m pretty sure they see themselves as the Empire/First Order. Especially after Last Jedi got girl cooties all over their mythology.

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    NotMax says:


    March 16, 1830 was pretty easygoing. Pokiest day on NY stock exchange ever. A grand total of 31 shares were traded.


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    JustRuss says:

    Meanwhile in Oregon, the Republican gubernatorial candidate is running wall-to-wall TV ads attacking the incumbent. In May. Wonder where he’s finding the money to do that?

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    @NotMax: man how much would you have now if you’d bought apples back then

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    Fleeting Expletive says:

    A bit of outstanding news: The FEC has ruled that a candidate may use campaign funds for childcare. This may be very, very important for our futures, literally, so that parents can seek elected office.

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    Brachiator says:


    LGM has a post up showing how the NYT will respond to that.

    The comments nicely shut that shit down.

    My lord, that tweet from Martin is one of the more obnoxious things I’ve ever read. If it’s important for him, at this moment, to reinforce the idea that Both Sides Do It, then why not look back to 2009 and tell us all the Democratic hangers-on who got rich off their connections to Obama?

    If you can’t do that, if all you can do is pretend that Hillary Rodham Clinton would have done fundamentally the same thing as Trump, then have a nice steaming mug of STFU.

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    NotMax says:

    @Major Major Major Major

    Heh, efgoldman is the one to ask, for first person perspective.


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    Elizabelle says:

    Enjoying the first gin and tonic of the season. Refreshing. A wonderful T storm blew through here, compleat with hailstones (not big ones). Now birds are back out and sunset approaching.

    WRT the Homeland Security secretary threatening to resign: figured these are the first steps of a pas de deux. Maybe John Kelly is out soon too.

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    @NotMax: but he was too busy that day buying onions, for his belt.

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    @MattF: how many times did he fall out of a window?

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    Mandalay says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Norm Coleman! Remember him?

    For me he’s only notable for having been on the receiving end of the most brutal evisceration of a politician I have ever seen, delivered over 45 minutes by George Galloway:

    Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong, and 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1,600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies.

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    Mike in NC says:

    Infrastructure Week only happens at Mar-A-Lago, you silly people! It’s getting a complete taxpayer funded makeover.

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    Brachiator says:


    I’m trying to understand how asking for, and receiving, welfare from wealthy donors squares with Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.”

    Atlas shrugged, and asked for a handout.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Fleeting Expletive:

    The FEC has ruled that a candidate may use campaign funds for childcare.

    Have they specified the maximum age of the child?

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    MomSense says:


    Obama is great.

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    I’m trying to understand how asking for, and receiving, welfare from wealthy donors squares with Ayn Rand’s “philosophy.”

    Perfectly. The philosophy advocates absolute selfishness. Reaping the charity of others and then trying to shut it down so no one else can receive it is totally in line. Having done so, you should laugh about it, because letting society shame you in any fashion is weak. The only thing I can see from Ryan that is non-Randian is that he doesn’t loudly shun religion. Not that I think he’s actually Catholic in any way, but again, shame is weakness.

    @The Lodger: and @Chet Murthy:

    Short of another Marshall Plan, I don’t see how we could have implemented the rule of law in the former Soviet Union.

    I’m damned if I can think of anything the US could have done. The West gave Russia a ton of suggestions as to what would help fix their economy and politics. The Russian people gave the rest of the world a big ‘Fuck you’ and hunted for the slimiest assholes to elect, who then ignored all of it. It’s not like we had the ability to stop that or force them to make laws we wanted.

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    Brachiator says:


    WRT the Homeland Security secretary threatening to resign.

    She is a vile piece of work who would be replaced by someone equally noxious. Here’s how she defends the indefensible.

    Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen defended the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy that calls for separating families who cross the border illegally, saying the undocumented immigrants shouldn’t get special treatment.

    “That’s no different than what we do every day in every part of the United States — when an adult of a family commits a crime,” she told NPR. “If you as a parent break into a house, you will be incarcerated by police and thereby separated from your family.”

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    efgoldman says:


    Paul Ryan is a very bad traitor.

    What is a good traitor, and who is one?

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    Am I wrong if I say I wouldn’t be upset if, once Ryan leaves office, somebody chooses to beat him to death with a baseball bat? On video? And I could recue it and watch it so many times that the laser would burn a hole in the DVD?

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    Elizabelle says:

    Rudy G just resigned from his big law firm, Greenberg Traurig.They were not amused by his Fox News-chatting that Cohen handles things without his clients’ knowledge, just like most lawyers do.

    You may recall that Greenberg Traurig was also Jack Abramoff’s law firm. Hmmmmmmm….

    FTF NY Vichy Times: Giuliani’s Law Firm Undercuts His Statements as They Part Ways

    WASHINGTON — President Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, abruptly resigned from his law firm, which then promptly undercut his recent statements defending the president.

    Mr. Giuliani had taken a leave of absence last month from the firm, Greenberg Traurig, to represent Mr. Trump. But the firm, one of the nation’s largest, said in a statement on Thursday that he no longer worked there.

    Firm partners had chafed over Mr. Giuliani’s public comments about payments that another of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, Michael D. Cohen, made to secure the silence of a pornographic film actress who said she had an affair with Mr. Trump. The president has denied her allegations.

    Mr. Giuliani suggested that such payments were common at his firm, even without the knowledge of the clients. “That was money that was paid by his lawyer, the way I would do, out of his law firm funds,” he said on Fox News. He added, “Michael would take care of things like this like I take care of this with my clients.”

    The New York Times asked Greenberg Traurig about those remarks early this week. Shortly after Mr. Giuliani’s resignation was announced, the firm responded.

    “We cannot speak for Mr. Giuliani with respect to what was intended by his remarks,” said a spokeswoman, Jill Perry. “Speaking for ourselves, we would not condone payments of the nature alleged to have been made or otherwise without the knowledge and direction of a client.”

    …. What’s more, Mr. Trump’s team functions better as a collection of pirates free agents as opposed to major names tied to a big firm, which imposes strong restrictions, according to one person familiar with the situation.

    … Many of the country’s top law firms have resisted the prospect of their lawyers representing the president. As Mr. Trump tried to rebuild his legal team this spring, firms told their top lawyers that if they wanted to represent the president, they would have to resign.

    The firms were concerned about Mr. Trump’s longstanding history of ignoring his lawyers’ advice and apparent failure to pay his bills, and backlash from employees who did not want to work for a firm that was representing Mr. Trump.

    Rudy gonna be out of work soon. Cannot imagine Trump the cruel won’t cut him off at the knees soon.

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    Mandalay says:


    She is a vile piece of work…

    She is indeed. Her predicament is made all the sweeter by Trump humiliating her in front of his entire Cabinet despite her having lied for him over his “shithole” comments.

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    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
    Yes. Don’t say that. Think it if you must, but it is definitely not appropriate public discourse, no matter how vile the man is. We really don’t want to turn into Republicans.

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    I'll be Frank says:

    Say, isn’t this Adelson fellow a money launder for Chinese Oligarchs?

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    maya says:

    @Major Major Major Major: The conservative right is always looking for an opposite/better of what the liberal left has to offer, which Shelley certainly fulfills (is it just the money?) You left out the last connection; successful casino operator vs an unsuccessful casino operator under the same political roof. Though, in this case, it’s the republican party at large who gets the big cash needed perhaps because of the ongoing actions of a still unsuccessful casino operator?

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    @Baud: Yes, indeed; I remember it well.

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    @Elizabelle: A G&T before Memorial Day? Please assist me to my fainting couch.

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    @maya: I was mostly confused because of the Alinsky part.

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    TenguPhule says:


    What is a good traitor, and who is one?

    Whoever leaked little Cohen’s bank transactions with the Russians.

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    maya says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Actually, was going for the alliteration in names there – SA.

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    kindness says:

    I understand Nancy Pelosi is very good at raising funds for the party. I wonder how much she raises at a pop? No doubt over time she might run into a smaller similar dilema. I would think that there are certain clues as to when a Congressperson has to leave the room rather than break the rules. I wonder what those clues/lines/words are.

    The uber-rich are different from the rest of us. It’s the need to control everything they seem to all have I don’t understand. We are fighting spoiled egos in this day and age for our very ability to retire at some point in our lives. Those egos, they act like children.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Oh no. Is that like wearing white shoes?

    Central VA expecting 90 degree weather with humidity this weekend. Got to get acclimated.

    ETA: I went to see The Thin Man last night on a big screen. Good thing I am not lying around, blotto. Mr. and Mrs. Charles were fun.

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    @maya: ahha, I just saw a list of three oft-vilified men whose only shared trait seemed to be religion.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Elizabelle: I am expecting a high of 45 and rain here tomorrow.

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    Chet Murthy says:


    No doubt over time she might run into a smaller similar dilema.

    Procedurally I’m sure she’s run into it already. But (heh) since those donations are to improve the lot of Americans, and at this point to Save The Republic, it’s not spiritually similar at all *grin*.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Brandy weather.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Elizabelle: Indeed.

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    maya says:

    @Major Major Major Major: You are not entirely wrong. Ethnicity more than religion. Not sure how religious any of them are. Adelson and Soros are polar opposites. Soros has been the go-to villain of rwnjs for years. At 84 he still drives them nuts. I find that more than mildly amusing. But, as to the vilification of Adelson…. not sure if he has suffered as much. One commentor above mentioned his possible “money laundering” for the Chinese oligarchs – more correctly, his Mindanao casinos and the Chinese mob – you don’t run a casino anywhere without local mob backing including Trump in Atlantic City , for all the good it did him. “Mob” could also include Chambers of Commerce in my way of odd thinking
    OTOH I understand that Kenye West will be delivering that elusive black voting block to the trump camp in 2020 where Omarosa and Ben Carson have, some how, come up short of expectations.

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    Shana says:

    @Elizabelle: Man that sounds fun. I took my older daughter to see Citizen Kane at AFI Silver (big screen) for her first viewing of it. Wonderful experience.

    Love the Thin Man movies.

    BTW, she took me out for dinner tonight, since I’ll be away this weekend, as a Mother’s Day gift. We talked a lot about movies (and local Dem politics since she’s a member of our local Congressional committee and the local Dem committee) and, despite having spent 4 years at UChicago and availing herself of DocFilms, there’s a ton of my favorite movies she’s never seen. I see lots of Movie Nights With Mom in the near future. How has my daughter never seen The Women? I’ve failed as a mother, clearly.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Shana: I love seeing older movies on a big screen. They hold up well!

    Lots of movies and happiness in your future.

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    Jager says:

    @trollhattan: This old defense man would have slammed Vlad into the boards every time the SOB came up the ice with a little cross checking thrown in for good measure. Not only could I skate but I knew how to take the “body”.

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    sigyn says:

    @oatler.: When I heard he died, I texted my mother “Now he really IS the devil’s advocate”.

    And, I get depressed every winter, but seeing the flags at half-staff every morning that February cheered me right up.

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