What thing from your teenage years do you think should make a comeback?
— Eric Alper (@ThatEricAlper) April 26, 2018
The prevailing belief that Nazis are bad. https://t.co/kLt4CTg44C
— Geraldine (@everywhereist) April 28, 2018
Been too busy a news week to share this sooner — Michael Harriot’s report for The Root, “The Only Thing Missing From Georgia’s Neo-Nazi Rally Was Actual Neo-Nazis”:
When a white supremacist group planned a gathering that was supposed to surpass Charlottesville, Va.’s Unite the Right rally, the community prepared for the worst. Hundreds of police officers arrived in a small Georgia town outside Atlanta to keep the peace. Counterprotesters came out en masse to condemn the hate groups that were scheduled to show up.
But when it came to the actual neo-Nazis who were supposed to descend upon Newnan, Ga., on Saturday, they apparently responded to the National Socialist Movement’s Nazi-palooza invitation with the age-old indicator of ambivalence: “Who all gon’ be there?”
The New York Times reports that law enforcement officers greatly outnumbered the crowd at Saturday’s march organized by the National Socialist Movement, one of America’s largest white nationalist organizations, while the Atlanta Journal-Constitution estimates that “only a couple of dozen” actual white supremacists showed up…
As National Socialist Movement leader Jeff Schoep ranted about the scourge of skinny jeans and undocumented immigration, the crowd drowned out his speech about “standing on behalf of white nationalism, white patriotism and our history as American people.” City officials said that about 10 people were arrested, and the crowd was dispersed at 5 p.m…
Related, from the Washington Post, “‘Imploding’: Financial troubles. Lawsuits. Trailer park brawls. Has the alt-right peaked?”:
Eight months after a white-nationalist rally in Charlottesville ended in the death of a counterprotester, the loose collection of disaffected young white men known as the alt-right is in disarray.
The problems have been mounting: lawsuits and arrests, fundraising difficulties, tepid recruitment, widespread infighting, fierce counterprotests, and banishment from social media platforms. Taken together, they’ve exhausted even some of the staunchest members…
Overall, the number of neo-Nazi groups increased in the United States in 2017, from 99 to 121, according to a Southern Poverty Law Center report released this year. That number is likely to decrease this year, said Heidi Beirich, who co-wrote the report. The SPLC did not group alt-right organizations together, but some of the neo-Nazi groups were an outgrowth of the movement…Even so, there is little doubt that white supremacy remains a potent force that is likely to emerge again as a political one — if not as the alt-right, then as something else. Racial animus remains an entrenched aspect of American life…
Chris Schiano, a reporter for Unicorn Riot, a decentralized nonprofit media organization that has leaked internal correspondence among alt-right members, called the movement “basically done.” It could resurface if it falls out of public view and organizes under newer, younger leaders, he cautions, but they haven’t “gotten much traction yet.”
“The overall level of racism in U.S. society hasn’t improved, it’s just that the organizing space for these types of networks” has largely been depleted, said Schiano, whose group rose out of Occupy Wall Street and documents social protests. “So the latent potential won’t go away unless society becomes less racist.”…
… in the same way the Internet was a boon for the alt-right, enabling rapid mobilization, fundraising and a sense of community, it also has thrown up roadblocks to the movement’s progress. After alt-right members started getting booted from Facebook and Twitter, they relocated to alternative social media platforms, such as Gab, where they weren’t likely to encounter, let alone radicalize, people they call “normies,” who use more mainstream outlets.
Participation and enthusiasm appear to have slowed since. Several street rallies have been sparsely populated by white supremacists — but overwhelmingly attended by counterprotesters — and by the time Spencer ended his college speaking tour, few supporters were coming to his speeches.
At Stormfront, a large white-supremacist online forum whose threads were read by some alt-right members, few were donating money. “It’s that time of [the] month again, when the big, scary bills hit,” site creator Don Black wrote recently. His wife, according to site members, has stopped financially supporting the forum, and his son, Derek, has rejected white supremacy. “Our contributions have once again totaled less than $2000, which is not enough to cover our basic server and radio bills, and this month we no longer have enough personal money to make up the difference.”…
Sunlight, the best disinfectant.
I will add, cynic that I am, that one sign the “White’s Rights” jagoffs are deluded about the significance of their cause is that the actual civil rights warriors of the 1960s didn’t accidentally kill people, get into farcical public spats, or lose heart the first time outsiders gave them some harsh looks or their funding ran low.
The Midnight Lurker
Sieg Fail.
SFAW
What is that, a trick question? Like “Have we reached Peak Wingnut”?
The answer is No.
Ruckus
Support a 1/4 mile wide and a millimeter deep. How many alt right, alt white assholes could get or keep much of a job to have much left over money?
trollhattan
BBC:
Don’t know how Donny will spin this, but Bolton is surely grabbing at his ankles bleating, “Please sir, can we not bomb them anyway?”
Mary G
Was that where they set fire to the giant swastika? I kept seeing pictures on twitter, but I didn’t have the stomach to read the stories.
Karen Potter
It appears that dolt ask if there were any Hispanics in audience before pushing his wall, in Michigan, at his rally.
SFAW
@Ruckus:
All they need is enough money to buy white polo shirts, khakis, and Tiki torches, so how much can that be?
Timurid
The President shows up for a speech blackout drunk and it’s not even news anymore…
B.B.A.
@Ruckus: Peter Thiel and Robert Mercer have enough money between them to make the alt-reich last a thousand years. At this level of support anyway.
Ruckus
@SFAW:
They may have peaked in their current incantation, that doesn’t mean they are gone or the same assholes won’t resurface with a slightly different spiel.
Major Major Major Major
Joke at the top reminds me of a Clickhole piece, ’90s Kids Rejoice! The End Of Net Neutrality Means The Return Of Dial-Up Speeds
Ruckus
@SFAW:
They have to live somewhere and eat something. How long do you think mom is going to let them stay?
Omnes Omnibus
I am not sure that cynicism is helpful right now – however warranted it may be. The optimism and determination of the Parkland kids is, I think, the better course. We can work toward one or the other. I prefer the positive. Others MMV.
Duane
The alt-right are the kids you knew in grade school who didn’t work and play well with others.
Ruckus
@B.B.A.:
Even those assholes have their limits as to how much they are giving away. Plus how many of the asshole followers do you think have much sway with them? The leaders sure, but the rank shitheads?
Mike in NC
Sadly, the Alt-Right is comfortably ensconced in the West Wing.
Suffragettecity
There may not have been any actual Nazis at that rally, but the police sure made the attempt to make up for it based on the pics and video I saw.
Jay S
@Mary G: I believe the fire symbols (a swastika and some other symbol) were part of the after party out of town. ETA I think some of the group met up there but were afraid to show in town because of the counter protest. This was on private property.
Adam L Silverman
@trollhattan: I’ve read the joint statements a couple of times. While the language is nice and flowery and ambiguous, I think that section 2 and parts of section 3 are going to be what cause the US headaches. I also think that aside from the meeting between Kim and the President, the US is now superfluous to the reality on the ground. And that Kim is manipulating the President into a diplomatic and strategic trap where Kim and the DPRK looks like the good guys here and the President, and by extension the US, look unreasonable and become the bad guys. This would also make Xi and the PRC, as well as Putin – another of Kim’s patrons – very, very happy.
Jeffro
Sooner or later the “both sides” media are going to have to confront, internalize, and then admit that both sides are not the same (even just in sheer numbers, much less in terms of moral authority). Sooner or later. I’m betting on later, but I’m willing to drag them by their hair across broken glass to understand that sooner would be better.
chris
This is good news, here’s some more. Poor (yes!) Richard Spencer is also begging for money to defend himself from mean lawyers.
Karen Potter
@Suffragettecity: I thought a read that large number of police are members of KKK; that it was also suspected that a percentage are Nazi.
Ruckus
@Duane:
Which is why I think the movement has a hard time being much bigger than a major pain in the ass.
Also the Mercers and Peter Thiel seem to be awfully close to being under investigation, you think they want to be in any way connected to this much controversy and possible murder charges? They are evil but I’d bet they don’t want to be caught paying for murder. All their money might not be enough for that.
jl
Oh goody. A post on the alt-right. On Josh Marshall’s twitter I see there is a tenured professor of economics who apparently has decided to write odd screeds and rants about the economic and social justice aspects of ‘incels’ (involuntary celibates). He says it is a form of social inequality just like debt slavery, or just plain slavery, or other forms of discrimination. Apparently he argues for social measures, like forced monogamy, to make the women go around more equitably to men. He doesn’t favor any other kind of redistribution, apparently. I don’t know for sure. I doubt I read through much of his stuff.
I worried if this guy had anything to do with the places I’ve been associated with. But, it’s a guy named Robin Hanson at George Mason University. Huh, George Mason economics department, who wouldda thunk? They guys got his degree at CalTech, so I guess he knows something about numbers and stuff. Oh well… interesting. At least I don’t have to worry about it anymore.
Edit:his bio says he’s married, so I hope he is not an incel himself. No link. Those interested can go find it themselves on Marshall’s twitter.
Omnes Omnibus
@Karen Potter: Citations needed.
Mnemosyne
@trollhattan:
Is that the test site that collapsed after multiple tests and is not unusable?
glory b
I listened to a podcast of a Fresh Air interview with the historian Kathleen Belew about her book on modern white supremacists called Bring Home the War. She warned that while we thought we were beginning a new era of racial tolerance with Obama’s election, these people were gaining strength. She ties in the doomsday preppers, militia members and others who tend to hide their supremacist leanings.
Their organizational skills might be lacking, but the numbers of believers maintains.
Gee, maybe we would have been well served by an investigatve report from the feds about this a few years ago //snark//.
Mary G
Kanye’s got two albums coming out, so of course he’s gone all MAGAT. His house is creepy as hell – all beige. Today he’s posted that Emma Gonzalez is his hero, making the right wingers who were “finally, we’re cool!” very sad. She then posted a picture of James Shaw, Jr.saying he’s her hero. I just love some of those Parkland kids.
Viva BrisVegas
Is “something else” what the kids are calling the Republican Party these days?
Patricia Kayden
@Mike in NC: Exactly and also in Congress. Steve King, anyone?
MisterForkbeard
I like that these articles pretend that the Republican Party isn’t also white supremacist.
Major Major Major Major
@jl:
Ah… no thanks!
Mike in NC
@jl: GMU Economics Dept is fully funded by the Koch brothers, as you might be aware.
Patricia Kayden
@Mary G: He’s an idiot. I so hope his albums flop. Let Trump buy his nonsense.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Reading though your first paragraph, I wondered it he was a prof at George Mason. Heh, I was right!
ETA: Cal-Tech Econ Dept, who knew…
Mary G
Mueller still on the trail, per WaPo, and AP too, I guess:
Viva BrisVegas
@Mnemosyne:
Yes. Presumably Trump will reward Kim for closing down something that has already collapsed on its own.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Yep.
Yarrow
Did anyone watch Michelle Wolf at the WH Correspondents’ Dinner? I didn’t, but Twitter seems to think she either killed it or was horrible. Women seem to think she was great. Apparently she destroyed Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
Omnes Omnibus
@Karen Potter: Seriously, I, being a trusting sort of person, thought that your jabs at me were merely personal, but I may have been wrong. I have to say that I tend not to believe fuck all that you say unless you link a reputable source. Others may differ.
Major Major Major Major
@Mary G: @Patricia Kayden: after this latest bout of nonsense a friend of mine posted “And now you all know how Morrissey fans feel.“
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Viva BrisVegas: Trump makes the best deals!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Yarrow: and Conway, and trump, and Pence. As to Jethrene, I don’t watch the Handmaid’s Tale, but I’m guessing, “Love you as Aunt Lydia” wasn’t a compliment
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Dear god.
Adam L Silverman
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/27/yiannopoulos-business-implodes-after-death-of-crypto-billionaire-557456
Much more schadenfreudey goodness at the link.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: That article is delicious. Milo should not have a platform. Glad the money has dried up.
Karen Potter
@Omnes Omnibus: If I could find the citations I wouldn’t have said thought remembered. I could do a web search, but then so could you.
Mary G
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Aunt Lydia is a meaner Nurse Ratched from “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.” She’s horrifying – the actress who plays her, Ann Dowd, won the Emmy last year.
Omnes Omnibus
@Karen Potter: You are making the claim. It is on you to support it.
ETA: People i respect have called you out as a troll. I have expressed doubts.
Adam L Silverman
@MisterForkbeard: Not all of them.
Mnemosyne
@jl:
Yes, because that totally worked for the previous several millennia of human civilization when monogamy was socially forced on everyone.
Elizabelle
Here’s C-Span video link to the WH Correspondent’s Dinner. Seems to be 1:42. linky:https://www.c-span.org/video/?444555-1/comedian-michelle-wolf-headlines-white-house-correspondents-dinner
I hope they stopped calling it the “nerd prom.”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mary G: Thanks. I’m really curious about that show– I’ve heard a lot of good things– but I can’t quite bring myself to pay for more TV. Because I would probably watch more if it were available
Adam L Silverman
Oopsie!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: Remember, we have the jungle primary here in California; I have my doubts if Mr. Little will be on the ballot in November.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Elizabelle: The news alert on my watch called it the ‘nerd prom’, so no.
Karen Potter
@Omnes Omnibus:https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m not particularly worried he’s going to have any success. But, as is the case with Nehlen in Wisconsin, it is another data point to be noted.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: I thought the NRA always banned guns of any sort at their conferences. Did I have that wrong?
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne:
We’re here, aren’t we? //
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: Depends. Some of their events are gun free zones, as the 2nd Amendment absolutists like to call them, some of their events aren’t. Since I’m neither an NRA member, nor someone who has ever attended one of their events, I cannot tell you which are which.
Sab
@Karen Potter: In my past experience, lots of hispanics in Michigan, mostly legal.
Omnes Omnibus
@Karen Potter: Yeah, I still call troll.
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman: Poor Milo. Maybe he’ll have to try working an honest trade for a change. Assuming anyone will hire him, of course.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
people are in a snit because the comic mocked her physical appearance, but the far greater focus is on the fact that she’s a lying, nasty bully. And she is a lying, nasty bully. That’s why a nasty bully hired her to lie for him.
Librarian
@Yarrow: Except when Mitch McConnell wants to hold one up on stage.
Mary G
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I got the free one week trial to watch it, planning to cancel, but still have the service. It’s not something really to binge-watch; it’s really disturbing and you kind of have to sit and digest it. But it is excellent, if horrifying.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: I was going to add it to my previous comment, but FYWP won’t let me…
The SUSA poll that they’re citing in that piece has a really small sample size(under 600) and I’m a bit surprised about de León only polling at 8%, though his support seems to be slipping.
Duane
@Patricia Kayden: Obama’s take on Kanye is spot on. He’s a jackass.
Karen Potter
@Omnes Omnibus: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/katharine-gorka-life-after-hate_us_59921356e4b09096429943b6
Jay S
@Adam L Silverman: IIRC they blame it on the venue. Perhaps they finally chose a gun friendly one and needed a new excuse.
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Tracking. I’m still not concerned about him gaining electoral traction.
Karen Potter
@Sab: Yes, but somehow I don’t think they pass the color test to be allowed in at a rally; though that guy with “Blacks for trump” shirt always seems to be at every rally.
Adam L Silverman
@Karen Potter: The Blue Footed Booby of Budapest’s wife.
Omnes Omnibus
@Karen Potter: Really? Seb’s wife? You aren’t even trying. I do now call troll.
Mary G
Here’s a Chicago Sun-Times article that shows pictures of both the Aunt Lydia character and the actress who plays her, Ann Dowd, to compare and contrast. She’s actually really nice, but she just sets her face in stone in the character and is always frowning. I think the comparison is quite apt, not for the physical resemblance, but the self-righteousness and not-so-supressed rage while thinking of hersef as kind and loving.
Karen Potter
@Sab: Or maybe, just maybe if they were at rally they didn’t want to speak up. I not sure I would want that kind of attention focused on me.
Suzanne
I know they hate being called “white trash”, but COME TF ON.
Mnemosyne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
My dream is still that DiFi retires and announces that she’s throwing her support behind Adam Schiff.
Adam L Silverman
@Suzanne: Matthew Heimbach, who upped stakes from Maryland and moved into a trailer park in Indiana if I’m recalling correctly, got into a fight with his father in law because he was having an affair with his mother in law.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/matthew-heimbachs-traditional-workers-party-implodes-over-love-triangle-turned-trailer-brawl
Inbreeding the master race. Or something…
Mary G
This is the same take I was trying to describe, but much better:
And of course, the teacher’s pet chimes in:
I’m pretty sure Twitler will chime in, too.
Karen Potter
@Adam L Silverman: Is this one better? http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/346552-trump-cut-funds-to-fight-anti-right-wing-violence
Adam L Silverman
Trump International Tower in Baku, Azerbaijan is on fire.
Adam L Silverman
@Karen Potter: I didn’t have an issue with the link. I know that she, along with a wack job former Navy intel weenie from Tampa named Frank Wuco, destroyed that very effective program.
I was just making fun of Seb.
chopper
@Mary G:
I’m sure. he’s an expert on insulting women, especially their looks.
Mike in NC
@Adam L Silverman: Obviously they had no sprinklers in the contract.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike in NC: Obviously.
Jay S
@Jay S: And a quick Google search shows that the NRA annual meeting gun restriction stories are a bit exaggerated, They had certain halls that banned guns but much of the convention areas had some form of legal carry for the last 3 conventions. Texas law allows legal carry in all the NRA venues and they will allow it, but for the VP event.
smike
@Yarrow: I watched. As an old white male, I enjoyed her act. Equal parts laugh-out-loud, chuckle, smile, amused groan.
Patricia Kayden
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’d like to ask if the critics are upset that Trump mocked a disabled reporter and has mocked people’s looks. Remember what he said about Cruz’s wife? Or when he called that Latino beauty pageant contestant fat?
SHS is ugly inside and out. I don’t care what anyone says to her face about anything. I hope her feelings were hurt. I’m hurt that Trump is President so to hell with her. I’m sure she will be back to lying her face off on Monday.
Patricia Kayden
@Adam L Silverman: Sad that they’re discriminating against all those “good men with guns” that we always hear about.
Original Lee
More evidence, not that we needed any, that flaming racists are feeling empowered.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Right now Schiff is much more useful in the House.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
White elephant on fire. Twice.
Although it’s a bit disingenuous to report as if it is currently a Trump property.
efgoldman
@Jeffro:
Why the hell would you think so?
MisterForkbeard
@Adam L Silverman: Even that article (good as it is) pretends that this is a relatively new phenomenon.
It’s not – even the overtness of the racism has only changed marginally.
Adam L Silverman
@Original Lee: Not quite so clear cut.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kkk-ad-front-page/
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: Interesting. Wonder how that happened. I’ve thought Trump properties around the world were vulnerable to attacks. I’m kind of surprised we haven’t seen that kind of thing.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: I didn’t write the article where I saw it reported. I just copied the video embed.
Adam L Silverman
@MisterForkbeard: True, but at least their reporting on it.
Fair Economist
@jl:
I think it’s more of an attack on wealth redistribution on the grounds of “if we don’t do *this*, why do we do *that*”. It isn’t so much arguing for “sex redistribution” as saying it’s roughly similar to wealth distribution.
It’s an odd complaint because although we don’t “force” monogamy, the cultural push to it is very strong. There’s a theorem that shows no matter what the preference order of the boys and girls, with monogamy there is one stable arrangement of pairings, and everybody gets paired. Reality doesn’t match up perfectly to the math, but in our society pretty much everybody who wants to be in a relationship, doesn’t have unreasonable expectations, and doesn’t have serious personality problems can get matched up.
Now in a polygamous society obviously there’s going to be an excess of males and it is frequently a major problem for society, because young men with no hope of marriage or children have a high tendency to be troublemakers.
My impressions of “incels” is that generally they have unreasonable expectations *and* personality problems. Society is already “enforcing” monogamy, largely to their benefit, and they are just unwilling or unable to take advantage of it.
Chet Murthy
@Yarrow: Michelle Wolf killed
Seriously, she was great, and some of it made me hiccup.
Eljai
@jl: I thought this might be about the incel guy that wrote that women should not be allowed to wear make-up so that they can’t “bang guys above their league”, but it’s a different one. Can’t imagine why these assholes can’t get laid. Anyhoo, as a woman, I’m with Ashley:
Jay S
@Adam L Silverman: That Snopes article is far too accepting of the editor’s non response with the sheriff’s statement. Not redacting contact information makes it an ad whether it was an editorial mistake or deliberate.
Mnemosyne
@Fair Economist:
Except, of course, that “wealth” is at best a collection of inanimate objects and women are actual people. But not to the “incels,” apparently. To them, women are just commodities, and they can’t figure out why they can’t just buy the one they want like a car or a computer.
Jay S
@Eljai: You might want to consider John’s response before jumping on that bandwagon. https://twitter.com/Johngcole/status/990382184136691712
Peale
Probably should write AVENGERS SPOILERS here, although I spoil nothing.
Thanos is a very well conceived villain. I’m haven’t been much of a comic book reader since age 13, so if things aren’t explained in these movies, I will miss the inferences. I thought after reading his Wikipedia entry, that we’d get some kind of religious death cult extremist…another Ronan the Accuser as villain. Instead, he reminds me of a moderate New York Times oped writer or Atlantic Monthly editor. That’s all I’ll say.
Jay S
@Mnemosyne: I suspect they are not willing to pay, or they would have less of a problem.
Eljai
@Jay S: Cole clearly thought this through ;)
Adam L Silverman
@Jay S: Okay.
Jay S
@Eljai: Hey if you want the pics along with the other stuff, I for one won’t judge;)
rikyrah
@Yarrow:
Her complete routine
https://youtu.be/DDbx1uArVOM
Jay S
@Jay S: @Adam L Silverman: And of course it wasn’t a Sheriff but the Police Chief. I regret the error.
Mnemosyne
@Eljai:
I’m a married woman and now I want to join that Reddit group. All the women in that thread sound really cool.
Eljai
@Mnemosyne: I know! If it included exchanging cat and dog pics while we crochet pu$$y hats and sip chardonnay, I. am. there.
Adam L Silverman
@Jay S: No worries. I just found another article on the topic and got fuller details.
hervevillechaizelounge
Am I the only one worried about the current incarnation of Nazism failing?
At least these buffoons were easy to spot; the next generation will learn from the predecessors’ mistakes.
The Mercers were happy to shower money on the Milos of the world; how much will they donate to a racist smart enough to keep his swastika armband under wraps while disempowering POC?
Reminds me of the famous Atwater quote; now they know the can’t run around screaming the N-word so they’ll target social services in the name of equality.
magurakurin
@Adam L Silverman:
magurakurin
@rikyrah: it’s pretty amazing. Stephen Colbert level stuff. Gutsy.
Jay S
We needed an Obama PSA warning about eating romaine lettuce or Caesar salads. It would have bolstered the lettuce markets as that stuff flew off the shelves. Solve a lot of problems. Is it too late now? I mean really, he should do all food/recall warnings as a public service.
Chet Murthy
@magurakurin:
That’s exactly what I thought, too! She really let everybody in the room have it, including the media. And it was funny, too! And Lo! the way she went after Elmira Gantry! What a sight! And this:
Damn!
Felanius Kootea
I enjoyed Michelle Wolf’s bits on the Daily Show with Trevor Noah and knew she was a writer on that show but I had no idea just how fearless she was until tonight. My husband and I were howling with a mixture of delight and shock/awe. I particularly liked the larger point about the media secretly liking 45 because they profit from him and focus on him almost to the exclusion of everything else. And Flint Michigan still doesn’t have clean drinking water
jl
@Fair Economist: Good points, and thanks for reminding me about the stable matching theorem.
I’m not sure he is making such a foolish argument as you think he is. But I don’t have time to read his stuff all the way through to find out.
Anyway, my first thought was George Mason econ when I read about it, and started reading excerpts. Then I went to the blog post, but it was too long and confusing to me to read all the way through.
Brachiator
Politico is claiming that there were some walkouts during the White House Correspondents Dinner.
Also, some claims that the jokes we’re not well received.
Some Republicans are already ginning up their standard crap about how the humor was disrespectful and out of touch with “real American values.”
I thought the worst of it was that the NY Times Maggie Haberman won an award for her fawning, ass kissing White House coverage. Or, if you like her work, “nuanced, contextual and multi-dimensional.”
Link to Politico story.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/28/white-house-correspondents-dinner-2018-trump-sarah-huckabee-sanders-559190
karen marie
@Jeffro: I’ve been waiting my entire adult life (I’m 61) for that to happen. I’m not going to hold my breath.
MomSense
@Felanius Kootea:
She killed it. You know she was good by how uncomfortable they were.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
They loathed Stephen Colbert’s routine, too. The MSM hates it when someone actually reminds them how shallow and image-obsessed they are.
Brachiator
@Fair Economist:
Human beings tend to be mildly polygynous, and human societies have accommodated this.
I suppose that all this recent stuff about incel boneheads will result in a flurry of articles about how, over time, societies have dealt with men with little apparent hope of getting married.
MomSense
@Eljai:
Sounds like my knit night at my LYS.
MomSense
@Patricia Kayden:
What makes me furious is that they respect Paul Ryan even though he wants to end school lunch programs for kids but Wolf went too far in telling jokes. Kids hungry quietly is fine. Woman making us uncomfortable is disgraceful.
Vhh
@trollhattan: The real cause of this is the collapse of the mountain where the tunnels for testing are located. Kim is playing Trump like a harmonica.
Frankensteinbeck
Republicans are such lazy, cowardly chickenshits. Trump truly does represent the movement. When they thought they could finally strut their stuff and harass minorities without pushback they bought tiki torches and restarted their marches. When they found out the counter protestors outnumber them and the cops won’t beat up their enemies, all the cockroaches ran and hid.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
I guess, although outrage would take an incredible lack of self-awareness. An easy joke would be: “Dude, a White House Correspondents Dinner is by definition, shallow and image obsessed. If you are a reporter, and not a politician or a celebrity, you are automatically the least important person in the room.”
I’m curious to see some of Michelle Wolf’s routine. Was the full event streamed anywhere? I guess I will look for some YouTube clips.
ETA. There are some UK satirical shows that regularly tear into politicians. “Have I Got News For You,” is one of the most acerbic, and sometimes has current political figures and reporters as guest panelists. So I guess there is an Anglo-American tradition of this kind of roasting of politicians and of the MSM.
dopey-o
@Fair Economist:
No, it is much more basic than “Society”. It is call Natural Selection.
I can see the headline now: ALT-RIGHT INCELS PROVE THEORY OF EVOLUTION
Brachiator
Wow. Michelle Wolf was tearing it up at the WHC. From Deadline.
Ouch.
Brachiator
@dopey-o:
More complicated than that. Earlier in the week, I listened to a clip of a therapist trying to provide an evolutionary psychology explanation of why these incel morons are such losers. I don’t think she made a good case at all.
Some of these guys don’t seem to be able to establish any kind of friendship or other relationship, so getting women is the least of their problems.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Brachiator: They haven’t been comfortable with the talent since Rich Little’s last appearance.
Anne Laurie
@Yarrow:
Yeah, but it’s nice when the bastids are forced to admit it, in public!
Robert Sneddon
@Vhh: There’s a point in nuclear weapons development when testing actual devices is not necessary, especially in today’s world of hand-held supercomputers available for a hundred bucks off Ebay. After the basic physics is understood the process of designing and making effective nuclear weapons involves computation, not rivets and earth-shaking kabooms in underground chambers.
The primary reason these days to test nukes is to show the world that your weapons programme has succeeded in at least causing a nuclear explosion (see, for example the duelling series of tests by India and Pakistan back in the 1990s) and North Korea has already done just that. They have (they claim) deliverable nuclear weapons, they have a nuclear materials production pipeline and the engineering nous to make and maintain a small stockpile. Testing is not necessary any more but ceasing testing can be turned to their political advantage.
zhena gogolia
@Brachiator:
Oh, man I have to watch the whole thing. These jokes are wild!
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah:
Thanks. I ran a conference all day yesterday, I am totally exhausted, so I’m going to start my day by watching that routine. I think she out-Colbert’d Colbert, but then DJT is an even bigger monster than GWB. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Terry Gross interviewed a scholar of the white power movement this week. It’s worth listening to. The guest knew her stuff.
ETA: Or what Glory B said at #27.
Aimai
@Brachiator: traditionally its war. Very few societies end up with polyandry.
The Pale Scot
@Adam L Silverman:
Que Tape;
Harvey Korman
The Other Chuck
@Timurid:
When was this? From all accounts even now, Trump doesn’t drink, though he has been popping amphetamines for _decades_ now.
Paula
This was good to read.