The quotes in this story….
"But what if there are 10 babies on the floor of the Senate?” https://t.co/qgSepOpqTX
— Julie Pace (@jpaceDC) April 18, 2018
Feeling the spotlight shift, Richard Cohen heaves a sigh of relief…
… Teleworking is not an option in the Senate, which requires members to vote in-person. So Duckworth raised a rare question that split her colleagues more along generational lines than well-worn partisan ones, according to interviews Wednesday. Duckworth proposed changing the rules to allow senators with newborns — not just Duckworth, and not just women — to bring their babies onto the floor of the Senate. This, recalls Sen. Amy Klobuchar, did not go entirely smoothly for the two months she privately took questions about the idea and its potential consequences — diaper changes, fussing and notably, nursing. More than one senator joked that those things happen on the Senate floor now.
The proposal, which could get a vote this week, marks another moment for an institution that, at times, seems to relish its resistance to change. But with 23 women serving in Senate, some 70 percent of mothers working in the United States and a midterm election looming, no senator was willing to publicly declare he or she was a “nay” on babies…
“I’m not going to object to anything like that, not in this day and age,” said Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., father of three and grandfather of six. He then noted that a person can stand in the door of the cloakroom, a lounge just off the chamber, and vote. “I’ve done it,” he said. Allowing babies on the Senate floor, he said, “I don’t think is necessary.”…
Sen. Tom Cotton, father of two, said he has no problem with the rule change. But the Arkansas Republican acknowledged that some of his colleagues do, “so the cloakroom might be a good compromise.”
Klobuchar’s answer to that suggestion noted that Duckworth is a double-amputee who lost both legs and partial use of an arm in Iraq, and mostly gets around by wheelchair.
“Yes, you can vote from the doorway of the cloakroom, but how is she going to get to the cloakroom when it’s not wheelchair accessible?” she asked…
But there still were concerns.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, the father of six, grandfather of 14 and great-grandfather of 23, said he had “no problem” with such a rules change. “But what if there are 10 babies on the floor of the Senate?” he asked.
“We could only wish we had 10 babies on the floor. That would be a delight,” retorted Klobuchar, noting that such a conflagration would probably mean more young senators had been elected in a body where the average age of members tops 60…
It’s about access for women, and for people with disabilities, and for younger would-be legislators. I believe this is what the youths call “intersectionality”.
P.S. The bill has passed — “without dissent”. Wonder if the Toddler-in-Chief will balk at signing it?
rikyrah
Good Morning Everyone ???
SiubhanDuinne
Clever snark, but why would Senate rules changes require a Presidential signature?
OzarkHillbilly
Waaaaa….
OzarkHillbilly
@SiubhanDuinne: They don’t.
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne: Yeah, didn’t think so, but I couldn’t resist!
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
Isn’t this exactly the kind of thing Ivanka would love to champion? There is nothing to be done but she can make a big show about encouraging women to work.
Major Major Major Major
Nice to see something a little silly emerge from that chamber tbh.
Today I found peak Yayoi Kusama.
OzarkHillbilly
@Anne Laurie: What’s a little fudge in service of a deserved insult?
p.a.
Duckworth should go on lifehack sites to se how to convert Depends into diapers on days she might get caught short in the Senate.
satby
@Major Major Major Major: nice! Is there a backstory or am I such an old putz I just don’t get the reference?
Major Major Major Major
@satby: she is an artist most famous for mirrors, polka dots, and most recently pumpkins.
sukabi
Not if he wants to address congress from the floor.
Debbie(aussie)
We have already had breastfeeding Mums on the senate floor. Also having problems with disabled accessibility issues, with resent addition of a wheelchair bound senator.
Always have a few reactionaries who think breastfeeding in public should not be allowed and they aren’t always oldies either.
Chyron HR
That would be 40-ish fewer than what we have now, so go for it.
raven
My bride is 6 weeks from retirement after a career of breastfeeding advocacy and organizing. She’s at one of her last two statewide meetings right now and I know they are revved up on this!
OzarkHillbilly
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning ?!
Sm*t Cl*de
@Major Major Major Major:
I was led to expect Mt Fujiyama covered in spots. Disappointed now.
Major Major Major Major
@Sm*t Cl*de: she’s not christo ?
O. Felix Culpa
@rikyrah: @satby: Good morning!
Good for Tammy Duckworth. I moved from Illinois shortly before she ran for Senate, but I’m proud to have contributed two votes via my sons.
SiubhanDuinne
@Anne Laurie:
I don’t really blame you. Low-hanging gift horse….
Patricia Kayden
Republicans are ginning up a contempt charge against Rosenstein. Good to know. The GOP is the Party of Trump.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Have been looking at the wishful thinking on this round of Korean diplomacy while giggling in an “oh shit – we are so fucked” way.
My prediction is that assurances will be given, the US will be invited to leave a “denuclearized” (wink) Korean peninsula. Following that (and a Nobel prize for Twitler), further assurances of goodwill will be given – as South Korean money boys quietly move money out.
By 2020, the whole country will be ruled by an iron fist from Pyongyang with devastating potential consequences in the Western Pacific and our Japanese allies. Hoocoodanode in that Trumpian heady rush to peace?
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So I shouldn’t buy another Samsung phone?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
I keep wondering what the fucking fuck goes through the minds of federal judges when they drag this shit out and don’t hold people to account. Were I sitting on a bench, I’d be issuing rulings sua sponte on requests like that within days and holding officials to account via jail time.
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
It’s exactly her kind of thing, for the reason you said.
Haven’t heard much about her recently. I know she was with Pence in Peru last week or whenever it was, but for the most part Jarvanka have kept a very low profile recently. Can’t say I blame them.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Only if you want the joyful experience of a uniquely customizable phone on an android platform – which means that it is incredibly hackable, difficult to configure with all the customizable bullshit unless you’re.a 23 year old techbro, and with shitty, shitty, shitty available apps that aren’t curated at all for functionality.
As you may guess, I’m not an android fan….
Major Major Major Major
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
That would explain why my 33-year-old Android developer friend can’t figure it out.
OzarkHillbilly
@SiubhanDuinne:
As their lawyer instructed.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I love my S8.
WereBear
Babies are a powerful force. Congrats to the Duckworth family.
NotMax
Bad night for sinus troubles. Really bad night. Incipient weather changes coupled with having mowed the most jungle-y sections of the property this afternoon.
This too shall pass.
Immanentize
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: @Major Major Major Major:
Didn’t I just read that Apple has decided to introduce another new proprietary charging cord to replace their lightning cords?
ETA clarity of snark
Baud
@Immanentize: The propriety cord is why I went the android route several years ago. And the price.
debbie
There already are 100 babies on the Senate floor. What’s a couple more?
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
I knew she was close to retirement, but don’t think I knew what her life’s work has been. Good for her!
SiubhanDuinne
@OzarkHillbilly:
So somebody in the family is capable of taking legal advice?
Raven
@SiubhanDuinne: 26 years. She was a school teacher in Richmond before she came here to do her M Ed.
NotMax
Flake folds.
Quinerly
@rikyrah: Good morning from Poco and his tribe! Hope you have a great day.
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: As one who has spent way too much time in court listening to lawyers argue over who’s filing used the finer words, I long ago learned to just swallow my frustration and keep my mouth shut. Especially when I listened to my ex’s lawyer argue that my son’s guardian ad litem was prejudiced against my ex without bothering to mention her drug and alcohol laced life of violence. When my lawyer and the GAL both brought up these well documented facts (the judge had first hand experience with my ex in his court) the judge just took it as evidence of their obvious prejudice against her, and ordered a new GAL.
They seem to go overboard in their desire to give the appearance of fairness to all sides.
It was not the first time I had been thru that particular song and dance.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Your candidacy is dead to me…
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
Imagine my frustration every time a judge bends over backward to grant the pro se litigant exceedingly wide latitude for that appearance of fairness…
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: But you haven’t even heard my plan to nationalize Apple yet…
Quinerly
@Baud: I loathe my new S9. Still mourning the death of my old Nokia Microsoft phone.
OzarkHillbilly
@SiubhanDuinne: They both have long experience with shutting up when told to.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Immanentize:
True – it is an irritation – but with Apple products, I turn it on and it just works. Everything is predictable, no fuss.
Major Major Major Major
@Immanentize: at least they were kind enough to release the newest one to the ISO as a new USB spec.
debbie
@Baud:
Don’t you dare hurt Apple!
WereBear
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: My whole office switched to Macs and has never looked back.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
Oooh – industry nationalization is part of your platform?
Does that include making all of the government Chik-Fil-A stores open on Sunday?
Baud
@Quinerly: Why? I thought about upgrading.
@debbie: Hurt? Folding Apple into my administration can only make it better.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
OT – been getting amused. In the Indiana Senate GOP primary, everybody (and they all embrace Trump) is putting up ads accusing the others of being liberal.
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I’m putting Betty in charge of all things chicken. I’ll wait for her report.
debbie
@Baud:
Other than resurrecting Steve Jobs, unpossible.
Baud
@debbie: Who leaked the info about Project Zombie?
OzarkHillbilly
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: It was a good thing I became a carpenter. Whenever I became frustrated with the serial stupidity of my foreman/riding boss/superintendent I could let it out by hammering something. I rather suspect that hammering judges is not conducive to a successful legal career.
OzarkHillbilly
Your good news story for today:
Quinerly
@Baud: It’s probably mostly a learning curve. Give me a couple more weeks with it and I’ll see. Mostly, it just closes apps in the middle of stuff… mostly Lowe’s and Home Depot apps (my life is mostly this ongoing rehab project for this Air BnB). Constantly shuts down FB and my email. I still need to sync my calendars and thought I had but I guess I didn’t b/c I keep missing stuff. The face recognition log in seems to depend on what earrings I’m wearing. ? Very random. First Android for me. I think I was the only person with a Microsoft Smarty Pants phone in the US. Only kind I have ever had. I loved it.
SiubhanDuinne
@OzarkHillbilly:
Heh.
Kay
Trade is complicated.
Baud
@Quinerly: That sucks. I hope it improves. I haven’t had anything like that so I can’t imagine what the issue is.
Baud
@Kay:
Why does Mr. Runck hate America?
Kay
If Democrats get a majority in the House or Senate I hope they change the new tax law. It’s (generally) unpopular anyway and they would avoid a lot of problems down the road if they can undo the worst damage. If it’s just the House and Republicans block changes in the Senate it’s still a win because it really is a handout to the rich and it’s easy to demonize.
That would be a real substantive achievement. Go after it piecemeal- attack the really egregious provisions.
Starfish
@Quinerly: Don`t use your Android phone for Facebook ever. I am surprised by the Home Depot thing because their Android app supports a ton of phones. I met one of the programmers. I thought there was something that people disliked about recent Samsung phones. I think I have an LG that is less complicated than Samsung.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: I guess Runck never thought the leopards would eat his face.
Kay
@Baud:
TPP was really good for agriculture. Trump is terrible for them. I have zero sympathy. IMO a consistent theme among people who fall for cons is they believe someone else is getting screwed and that’s the advantage the con is offering them. That’s the mindset that “the victims” have. Neither side of the transaction is in good faith.
They wanted a sleazy dishonest “dealmaker” working for them– but that cuts both ways.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Kay:
Trump’s dilemma is in how badly he can fuck over Blue America in order to mitigate the losses his moronic tax, trade and diplomatic policies are costing his idiot voters while still hanging on to the House and Senate.
If you peel away a number of GOP districts in New Jersey, New York, Illinois and California, then it is “game over” in the House.
Baud
@Kay:
They don’t just believe it. They desire it. That’s the emotional hold Trump has on them, and why they’ll put their families at risk to support him.
rikyrah
@Quinerly:
Morning to Poco and the tribe ??
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
That is good news this morning ?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Baud:
“Sure, my family is poorer, life is harder and everything is pointing to diminished standards, but he’s really sticking is to the n****rs, sp*cs, f*gs and libs, so I’m happy.”
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
Ozark,
Did I miss you commenting on your Governor filing a restraining order against the Attorney General???
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: Gee, who’da thunk it? Presidentin’ ain’t fer amateurs.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Elections have consequences, Dear.
Kay
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
I kind of get it as a political strategy. Trump sees his margins in the rust belt – true- that’s there they are. He’s betting states like North Dakota stay R no matter what he does, and he holds MI and OH and WI and PA with tiny margins- which is not a bad bet. That’s how he won last time.
They are really upset, though, farmers. They’re always upset – they are frankly kind of whiny as a breed- but this has really rattled them. I don’t think they’re accustomed to being thrown under the bus. It’s amusing because Ohio farmers had some really good years under Obama. Land values for crop ground went up.
Kay
@Baud:
I’m less sympathetic to them than I used to be, because it’s not coming from a good place, their buying the con. If they’re conned more than once they need to look at what’s driving that, and why it doesn’t happen to other people. I don’t think it’s “smart” or “well informed” – I think it’s deeper than that. The con looks for a character flaw and exploits that. It’s not a function of intelligence. You can’t read your way out of it.
rikyrah
@Baud:
One of the funniest things that he has ever said. I am sure that the farmers understand that their financial pain will Make America Great Again ??
OzarkHillbilly
@rikyrah: I missed that. Too fucking rich, these assholes really do think they play by a different set of rules. Now I know what my first filing will be when I get arrested for not paying my parking tickets.
germy
https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/parkland-students-lauren-and-david-hogg-sign-book-deal.html
rikyrah
@Kay:
Kay,
Did you see that Kobach got cited for contempt?
Wish that they had thrown his azz in jail.?
Leto
@OzarkHillbilly: That’s really good news. As a former club soccer player, the costs involved are pretty steep. From club fees, travel expenses (hotel/tournament registration/food), gear, skills camps… it all adds up super quick. Considering all you need is basically some space and a ball, soccer in the US is just so damned expensive (that’s been a major complaint for decades). I’ll always be eternally thankful to my parents for giving me ability to do all that I did.
germy
Kay
We have a 401k match and I’m trying to get the two staff people to switch to a better provider. Not the stock mix- that’s their business- the administrator. It would be easier if we all used the same fund. Also- I think they’re getting ripped off. I raised it though and they’re REALLY mad at me. I was trying to figure out why because I think I broached it in a very respectful way.
It’s an emotional issue for them- control or something- so my careful presentation of facts is just pissing them off. I don’t think it’s worth it so I think I will drop it. This is not a hill to die on. People really aren’t “rational” and I include myself in this. They;re incredibly complex, is what they are.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Kay:
There is no whinier, less self-aware entitlement recipient than the “hardworking white farmer”. The entire saga of westward expansion is one of white entitlement and propping up failure.
Think about it – your farm failed back east, and the government cleared land west of inhabitants and created infrastructure and gave you free land to move to and fail in yet again. Maybe move to Oklahoma and repeat again, moving to Fresno after government creates large scale irrigation projects.
Baud
@Kay: “You’re not the boss of me! Oh wait, you are…”
Kay
@rikyrah:
Kobach is literally part of the conservative brain trust and he is a TERRIBLE lawyer and also administrator. He doesn’t prepare. At all. Even I’m shocked at how bad he is at his job. He’s lazy.
lollipopguild
@Baud: Baud2020!
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay:
Actually, that’s a horrible bet. ’16 was the equivalent of drawing to an inside straight while playing roulette. So many things had to go just right to get him elected. Thinking he can pull it off again in ’20?
He should be trying to broaden his support while keeping his base secure, instead he’s doing the exact opposite. But then, that was inevitable.
Baud
@Kay: Trump’s one quality is that he forces people to reveal their true selves.
OzarkHillbilly
@OzarkHillbilly: in moderation for a reply to @Kay: My sin? I mentioned a specific game of chance involving a big wheel and a little ball. Bad hillbilly, bad!
lollipopguild
@Kay: They wanted a white racist asshole who would fix things so that they always won and all of those other people would always lose. Gee, what went wrong?
Baud
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So, Rugged Individualism then.
Jager
My good brother in law was the number 2 guy in a farm state international trade office, he did all the work and the #1 guy, a political appointee, sat on his ass and went to political events with the governor and left my BIL alone to do his job. BIL developed markets all over the world, China, the former USSR satellites, the “stan” countries, Africa. New governor (the old governor is now a senator) new political appointee in the boss chair. The new guy came to my BIL and said, “Why don’t you arrange some travel to some nice places like Norway, Sweden, European countries, I’d like to travel with you but I don’t want to go to the places you’ve been going.” He wanted to take his wife along too. My BIL told him, “We already sell to Europe, those markets are mature, the growth is in the emerging markets, that’s why a place like Kazakhstan .is important” The guy didn’t get it at all. MY BIL quit and opened a cold press cooking oil business and does business on his own with farm exports all over the world. The state supported trump and is as red as red can be.
OzarkHillbilly
@germy: Cool.
Kay
What else could we do if they take Congress? You’re jackals so you’ll be interested in Trump but let’s think longer term.
I would do taxes first and then bring the “buy into Medicare” proposal they have- that will be wildly popular.
Also- ethics laws. Start with nepotism.
Leto
Considering how we’re talking about smartphones (would like our resident tech security experts opinions on this):
Stop Using 6-Digit iPhone Passcodes Now that police agents can allegedly crack iPhones protected with passcodes made of six numbers, it’s time to use longer, harder to guess and crack alphanumeric passphrases.
Basically the experts state that you should move over to the standard alphanumeric style encryption (upper/lower case, numbers, special characters), or use facial/biometric recognition. This also runs into the convenience vs security aspect.
Quinerly
@Starfish: never heard such a thing about Android phones and FB. Not trying to argue but really not an option for me. I’m behind this morning and a worker coming shortly so can’t spend anymore time here right now. I’ll check back probably after the thread is dead if you have anything to add. Much appreciated. Catch you on another thread. Thanks.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Quinerly: That should not be happening. Take the phone to the Samsung specialist at a Best Buy. (You may have to call to find out when they’ll be there.) My first thought is a memory fault.
I’d also check Settings -> Device Maintenance -> Battery and tell it to not monitor the apps that keep closing. If that helps, you’ve got a problem in the power saving app.
You aren’t alone in loving your WinPhone. I’ve been watching a discussion between WinPhone fans as one of their phones slowly died and they researched how to make an Android phone tolerable.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Sorry Kay,
If the Dems take the House, the first thing out needs to be the restoration of The Voting Rights Act.
Period.
Tenar Arha
@Kay: @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Farmers…? Have either of you guys read the biography Prairie Fires, about the real life of Laura Ingalls Wilder & her daughter Rose?
Deconstructing the real origins of a childhood classic just got Caroline Fraser a Pulitzer. Based on the summaries I’ve read, Rose Wilder should be right up there with Ayn Rand as “the worst” that 20th century had to bequeath to us as an examplar of bootstrap living often entirely dependent on white welfare.
MomSense
@raven:
What a wonderful legacy she has. Breastfeeding is so important.
OzarkHillbilly
@Jager:
Let me guess, he’s a Republican?
chopper
post shoulda been titled “Make Way For Duckworthlings”
Sm*t Cl*de
@OzarkHillbilly:
But as the words are leaving his lips
A noise comes from behind
Bang! Bang! Maxwell’s silver hammer
Came down upon his head
Starfish
@Quinerly: I trust Facebook as far as I can throw it. Here is why I am not putting Facebook on my new Android phone.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
The accepted FYWP nomenclature is ‘game of chance involving a horizontally mounted round spinny thing.’
Please make a note of it for future comments.
:)
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: You’ve been reading the Little House books?
Frankensteinbeck
@Kay:
I don’t think it’s a political strategy. Trump is a mean, bullying shit, and thinks America will win a trade war. It makes sense in his pea brain. He wants to be a badass international negotiator, and is pathetically bad at it. It’s one of his frustrations as president. That it might stop anyone from voting for him is coming as a confusing surprise.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: Renewable energy. Climate change really is an existential threat. We need hearings, more hearings, and more hearings, lots and lots of testimony. Bring in big oil and coal, make the assholes tell the truth or perjure themselves.
ThresherK
Fck you, Cotton; your buddies are big boys and can worry out loud for themselves about babies feeding.
I’m just wondering how little he’d magnanimously compromise if he had zero kids.
germy
@OzarkHillbilly:
I predict they’ll still be accused of “profiting off a tragedy” by the usual trolls.
Frankensteinbeck
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’d like to go to Finland. It’s a country so nice that their national oral epic, the Kalevala, has hardly any violence and everyone’s problems are solved when they learn a Lesson In Friendship.
Jager
@OzarkHillbilly: Can’t imagine why you’d think that.
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: Thanx. These days I need all the help I can get.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Starfish: On a modern Android phone, you can revoke Facebook’s access to all of that.
NotMax
@Frankensteinbeck
Helps if you like coffee. They drink a f*ckton of it.
rikyrah
ICE needs to be dismantled
https://twitter.com/kazweida/status/986794413111164929?s=19
MomSense
@Baud:
The only apples I care about are at the Maine Heritage Orchard
The annual planting day is this Saturday from 9 – 3. I’m bringing my chicken shoes and farming tools.
OzarkHillbilly
@germy: Inevitably, but they don’t care.
rikyrah
From NY AG on possible pardons
https://twitter.com/AGSchneiderman/status/986689771308290048?s=19
Frankensteinbeck
@NotMax:
I know the Kalevala goes on at length about how much they like beer, and includes detailed instructions on making it so that art will never be lost.
NotMax
@MomSense
Always good to honor a core belief.
;)
Starfish
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Will the app still install and function if you revoke permissions?
OzarkHillbilly
Hit By 4 Semi Trucks, St. Louis Performer Walks Away from Accident
Must have been a Republican.
Worth the click thru just to look at the car wearing a semi.
JPL
@rikyrah: Yesterday Adam said that Mueller has filed narrow charges that should allow NYState to file other charges. Since we don’t know whether or not Cohen will be charged, he could be a wild card.
d58826
Having watched the Senate over the years I would suggest that the number of ‘babies’ on the floor frequently exceeds 10
OzarkHillbilly
@rikyrah: Witch hunt!
OzarkHillbilly
@d58826: A fact which a # of Senators, both R and D, pointed out.
different-church-lady
Me.
different-church-lady
@Starfish:
FTFE. (Fixed that for everyone.)
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Starfish: Mine always has. I think I started revoking permissions back around Ice Cream Sandwich. I don’t keep the main app logged in constantly, just Messenger Lite to communicate with people who would rather IM from a real computer than text from a phone, but I do occasionally need to check something on the actual site.
If you accidentally hit a button that needs one of the revoked permissions, it will beg you to change the permission, but dismissing that is the only annoyance. Granted, I don’t often take photos or videos with the intent of posting them. When I do, I allow it photo access and then immediately revoke it again. I’ve never allowed phone, contacts, or SMS access.
raven
@different-church-lady: oh whatever !
different-church-lady
@p.a.:
Need a case of Alocane here, stat!
different-church-lady
@raven: And take the cigarette out of your mouth, while we’re at it.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: Coud not agree more. Do you follow Today in Ethnic Cleansing on LGM?
raven
@different-church-lady: 1968 was the last one, your move.
debit
@different-church-lady: Maybe you just haven’t had one prepared the right way.
…I’ll see myself out.
different-church-lady
@raven: It was an analogy.
Quinerly
@different-church-lady: Not an option for some of us. And, yes, I know how to keep in touch with friends (I have no family) the old fashioned way. And do. Have a great day!
Quinerly
@different-church-lady: something we can agree on! ?
different-church-lady
KILL YOUR
TELEVISIONSMART PHONEQuinerly
@debit: come over to my place since you are seeing yourself out. ?
raven
@different-church-lady:
raven
Don’t watch tv
Don’t like football
Don’t read the Times
Don’t buy an Apple
Don’t use the internet
germy
Will Cohen flip? Some Drumpf advisors think so.
different-church-lady
@Quinerly:
Yes, it’s a sad truth. And that is one of the biggest evils Facebook perpetrated on us; they wormed their way into indispensability in certain circumstances. When I saw that happening I shifted from Facebook refusenik to anti-Facebook crusader.
It’s going to be incredibly difficult to get this digital cancer out of our system. We never should have let it happen in the first place.
different-church-lady
@raven: And for heaven’s sake, DON’T EAT BABIES!
germy
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: You need to stop breathing. There are children in China suffocating because there isn’t enough air for them
Quinerly
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Thanks for this info. Will catch you on another thread. Hate to tie up an AM thread with this… I’m heartbroken over my Microsoft Windows phone. It was having some cut and paste quirks the last few months that manifested on BJ only for some reason. Everyone who saw it loved its look and wanted one… the tile set up. I guess the main problem was app development…. but I didn’t need a 100 weather apps… only one. It suited me because it had a Great camera and really had everything I needed. I guess Microsoft is out of the phone business.
SiubhanDuinne
Remember the plan to put Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill by 2020? Well….
NotMax
@raven
If he did make that remark during the program, which is highly doubtful, it was never aired.
germy
Fraudster Martin Shkreli will serve his seven year term at a federal prison in New Jersey instead of the minimum security camp he’d been hoping for. His new home is in the U.S. military base at Fort Dix, which he’ll share with 3,945 other inmates. From CNBC:
OzarkHillbilly
@SiubhanDuinne: I am shocked, shocked I tell you! I have been expecting this since election day. The only things that surprise me is it took them this long to announce it and the mealy mouth excuses they are using.
Barbara
It’s not as if parents are eager to bring babies or toddlers to work. It’s just sort of what you have to do at times in order to get the job done. It is zero fun having to turn your office into a makeshift nursery. It is even less fun to have to mediate a meeting with a child.
germy
@NotMax: What ever happened to the “Raised Eyebrows” movie Rob Zombie was supposedly directing about Groucho’s last days with Erin Fleming?
NotMax
@germy
Me no know.
J R in WV
@Major Major Major Major:
It is admirable, but I don’t hear the screams ! ;-)
J R in WV
@OzarkHillbilly:
So the CIA has found a way to continue torture, illegally, beyond the death of the victim, eternally.
Good news! This time I near the screams. ;(
Frankensteinbeck
@SiubhanDuinne:
I assumed automatically that a white supremacist president would never allow Harriet Tubman on currency.
@germy:
I try so hard not to enjoy other people’s suffering, but in Shkreli’s case it’s impossible.
Jeffro
Had some interesting thoughts while on the elliptical this morning…will wait for the next OT to post…
In the meantime, this (which I think someone else posted last night) did make me laugh. Everything about Trumpov’s corruption really is right there in the open….
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@raven: Read a fascinating bio of Groucho a few years ago, which necessarily included a lot of interesting stuff about his brothers and Margaret DuPont as well.
One thing that surprised me was that Groucho was brought back from obscurity for that show. Makes sense I guess since we didn’t have TV res howing all the old movies yet. Also it made me remember Harpo doing guest appearances on Lucy. In retrospect he was probably a has-been as well.
When approached, Groucho said “I won’t do that character again. He’s been dead for 20 years.” They talked him into just being himself and growing his own mustache, his first.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Kay: Infrastructure, importantly including rebuilding in Puerto Rico. Then PR statehood. DC too.
germy
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Harpo was quite busy in the late 1950s/early 1960s. TV commercials, guest appearances on variety shows, starring roles. There was one TV show where he even did a dramatic role.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Other tidbits I recall off the top of my head
– during the stage days, they teased Margaret Dumont so unmercifully that one night she got fed up and left. They had to find her at the train station and beg and plead with her to come back.
– Chico was headed for a life of crime till Mom dragged him back home and made him take piano lessons
– In their stage act, Harpo used to have an Irish accent. It was so terrible that finally they decided mute was better.
– Groucho always admired writers and wanted to be one, hung out with writers when he could
SiubhanDuinne
@OzarkHillbilly:
We’ve known for a long time about the grift, venality, lying, vulgarity, ethical vacuity, greed, backstabbing, and outright criminality of Trump and Trumpians. These behaviors are no longer shocking.
What continues to surprise is the pettiness.
OzarkHillbilly
Well, that and the fact that the Feds now have evidence that the Steele dossier was accurate on this point.
germy
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Mel Torme got his start in Chico’s orchestra.
Chico as a bandleader is one of the more obscure facts about their career. I read reviews where critics praised the music but complained his material was too “blue”. Lots of sexual stuff that never would have made it into the films.
rikyrah
Republicans rally behind Trump’s dubious choice to lead NASA
04/19/18 10:04 AM
By Steve Benen
There was some unexpected drama on the Senate floor yesterday, when Donald Trump’s choice to lead NASA, Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Okla.), didn’t have the votes to advance. Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) were out, and Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) initially balked, leaving the chamber tied, 49 to 49.
Ordinarily, Vice President Mike Pence would break the tie, but he was 1,000 miles away in Florida.
Eventually, Senate GOP leaders made some private concessions to Flake; the Arizonan changed his vote; and the drama came to an end. All of which makes this a fine time to take a closer look the man who’ll soon lead NASA thanks to the unanimous support of Senate Republicans. Vox had this report yesterday on Bridenstine – the first politician who’ll oversee the space agency.
Questions about Bridenstine’s qualifications grew louder when the Daily Beast reported this week that when the Oklahoma Republican led a space museum in Tulsa, it suffered hefty financial losses, and “some of the losses involved the use of the non-profit’s resources to benefit a company that Bridenstine simultaneously co-owned and in which he’d invested substantial sums of his own money.”
germy
Gin & Tonic
@germy: The late former Providence mayor, Buddy Cianci, served his time at Fort Dix. He never struck me as particularly dangerous, so not sure why he ended up there.
rikyrah
Poll: Cruz, O’Rourke locked in tight race in Texas
Sen. Ted Cruz may be headed for a Texas showdown this November.
The Lone Star State Republican is locked in a statistical dead heat with Democratic Rep. Beto O’Rourke, according to a new Quinnipiac Poll released Wednesday. The poll found Cruz leading O’Rourke 47 to 44 percent, within the poll’s 3.6 percent margin of error.
Democrats have been hopeful that Texas’ changing demographics will soon give them a shot at winning a Senate seat in the traditionally red state. And Cruz, a firebrand conservative and 2016 presidential hopeful, is a top target.
The poll found O’Rouke leading among independent (51-37%), Hispanic (51-33%), and black (78-18%) voters. Cruz leads among male (51-40%) and white (59-34%) voters, as well as those over the age of 65 (50-43%).
rikyrah
Judge holds Kansas’ Kobach in contempt in voting rights case
04/19/18 08:00 AM
By Steve Benen
It’s been several years since Kansas Republicans first imposed new voting restrictions on state residents, including requirements that Kansans show proof of citizenship when registering. The ACLU is challenging the measure in federal court, while Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R) defends them.
That is, of course, the same Kobach who’s championed voter-suppression techniques at the national level, and helped lead Donald Trump’s ridiculous voting commission, which recently ended in failure.
It’s safe to say this latest endeavor isn’t going especially well, either. A federal judge yesterday held Kobach in contempt of court, and the Washington Post did a nice job explaining why.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@OzarkHillbilly:
That, and it is pretty hard to be a plaintiff in litigation when the subject matter is the same as a criminal probe to which you may be taking the Fifth.
Gin & Tonic
@rikyrah: Jeff Flake, profile in courage.
rikyrah
Ex-Playmate Karen McDougal wins settlement in wake of Cohen raids
Peter Stris, attorney for former Playmate Karen McDougal, who says she had a months-long affair with Donald Trump, talks with Rachel Maddow about the settlement he brokered with A.M.I. to free McDougal to tell her story.
rikyrah
Rosenberg is my favorite MSNBC legal analyst. He’s SO stiff…SO by the book…..he is like a stereotype, and he cracks me up with his deadpan manner.
Trump hush money probe continues, despite McDougal settlement
Chuck Rosenberg, former U.S. attorney, talks with Rachel Maddow about what it means to the federal investigation of hush money payments to women claiming to have had affairs with Donald Trump that Karen McDougal has settled her civil case with A.M.I.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@rikyrah:
Bridenstine is the Michael Brown that NASA surely will thrive under.
rikyrah
Flint to sue Michigan as state turns its back on struggling city
Mayor Karen Weaver of Flint, Michigan, talks with Rachel Maddow about suing the state of Michigan for breaking its promise to provide Flint with clean water while pipes are replaced and other support.
rikyrah
Pompeo N. Korea trip meant to boost flagging Trump nominee: report
Rachel Maddow reports on the difficulty CIA Director Mike Pompeo is having gathering enough votes for his nomination to make it out of committee, with final confirmation less than guaranteed. Just one of several struggling Trump nominations
lapassionara
@rikyrah: Maybe, if the Republicans start going after Social Security and Medicare more overtly, the people over 65 will figure out that they are better off with a Democrat as their senator. We can hope.
Here in my district, I think every Dem should be pointing to Ann Wagner’s vote on the tax bill and describing it as a “vote to take $50 billion a year from Medicare.”
Good morning, everyone.
rikyrah
@SiubhanDuinne:
UH HUH
UH HUH
Quinerly
@rikyrah: saw him on her show last night. It’s like he is from central casting.
Uncle Cosmo
@raven: In the version I heard (Kermit Schaefer’s Blooper records) it was a man, the number of kids was 12, & Groucho’s riposte was
(Listen here.)
Other than that, well played! ;^D
ottercliff
I’ll bet Hatch has been getting his diaper changed on the Senate floor for years.
Uncle Cosmo
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Legend has it that George S. Kaufman (famed stage writer for the Ziegfeld Follies among others) once took Harpo to lunch at a ritzy new restaurant in NYC. The latter scanned the menu with mounting distress at the prices – remember, this was so long ago that a dollar was serious cash – & finally asked Kaufman, What can you get in here for fifty cents? Kaufman replied, A quarter. /rimshot
rikyrah
Muthaphucka spent his life trying to take away from others.
And, he’ll get gold-plated healthcare.
Paul Ryan could get a pension of $84,930—here’s how that compares to most people
House Speaker Paul Ryan announced that he will retire at the end of his term in January, giving up his prominent position and salary of $223,500 a year. But that doesn’t mean the 48-year-old will have to start pinching pennies.
When he turns 50, he’s likely entitled to a pension plan that Vanity Fair describes as “a golden parachute.” If he is enrolled in the program offered to Congress members, the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), he could receive $84,930 a year, assuming he sticks it out through January.
For most of America, by contrast, pension plans are only a memory: In total, only 23 percent of workers have one now, according to the most recent analysis from the Pension Rights Center, while in 2016 “pension benefits provided income to nearly one third of older adults.”
Many U.S. employers have shifted away from offering pensions in favor of encouraging personal retirement accounts. But 401(k)s, which in any event are only available to some, have proven to be an insufficient alternative, leading some to conclude that “the grand 401(k) experiment has been a failure.” Overall, Americans between the ages of 55 and 64 have a median of $120,000 saved for retirement, according to a recent Bankrate survey. That’s only 12 percent of the $1 million experts recommend you have to count on once you’ve stopped working.
eclare
@Quinerly: Still rockin’ and love my S5…
Uncle Cosmo
@SiubhanDuinne: Same thing with Agnew two generations back. No one in MD was much surprised that he was taking bribes. What shocked most everyone was that the white envelopes that engineer Lester Matz passed him (as Baltimore County Executive, then Governor of MD, then VPOTUS) held so little cash – a few thousand $$ at most. Not just a crook but a penny-ante crook.
rikyrah
Of course, she did.
Whatever.
DHS secretary declines to explain Trump’s ‘breeding’ tweet
President Donald Trump’s Homeland Security secretary declined to explain what the President meant by “breeding concept” in a tweet Wednesday morning, saying he was calling attention to a “very serious problem.”
Asked here during a visit to the border fence replacement project what Trump meant and whether the tweet had racial overtones, Kirstjen Nielsen said she couldn’t speak “to a particular meaning of the tweet.”
“Generally from where I stand, we have immigration laws, we need to enforce them no matter who is breaking those laws,” Nielsen told CNN in an exclusive interview. “I think overall he’s talking about a very serious problem that we have with sanctuary cities who are turning their back on federal laws and making it that much more difficult and dangerous for us to do our jobs to protect the American people.”
Trump tweeted Wednesday morning about California, which has passed a state law limiting cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.
“There is a Revolution going on in California. Soooo many Sanctuary areas want OUT of this ridiculous, crime infested & breeding concept. Jerry Brown is trying to back out of the National Guard at the Border, but the people of the State are not happy. Want Security & Safety NOW!” Trump tweeted.
rikyrah
FULL INTERVIEW: “This is something that has been going on for years…everyone is blind to it.”
Rashon Nelson & Donte Robinson, the 2 black men arrested at a Starbucks in Philadelphia, speak out exclusively to @RobinRoberts: https://t.co/bIBmMGlwWN pic.twitter.com/IZekmHrWw2
— Good Morning America (@GMA) April 19, 2018
rikyrah
Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson arrived at Philly @Starbucks at 4:35 for a meeting. Records show 911 was called … at 4:37. #TwoMinutes @GMA pic.twitter.com/uajS4UhdS0
— T.J. Holmes (@tjholmes) April 19, 2018
Uncle Cosmo
@germy: Avenetti wields hashtags like Sicilian stilettos & I love it. He almost (almost) makes up for the legions of bigoted misogynists we share Italian heritage with.
Frankensteinbeck
@rikyrah:
These people are SO BAD at their jobs. Was “He mistyped ‘breeding crime’, as in sanctuary cities increase crime.” so hard?
No Drought No More
Driftglass occasionally posts a captioned photo of an exasperated Mike Royko saying something like: “For fuck’s sake, won’t someone please get the fucking children out of the fucking newsroom so I can get some fucking work done”? That’s badly paraphrased, but the abiding point is a good one. That said, it would be interesting to see Mitch McConnell’s face when he’s addressing the senate and Duckworth pulls out a tit to breast feed, much less to watch the reaction of Mike Pence. I wonder if Pence would have time enough to declare her out of order before he died of the stroke it would induce?
rikyrah
in moderation. please help.
different-church-lady
@Uncle Cosmo: If I recall correctly, Schaefer was notorious for faking/re-creating incidents where no recordings existed. To my ear, that ain’t a real Groucho.
OzarkHillbilly
@eclare: I like my rotary dial phone.
SiubhanDuinne
@Uncle Cosmo:
I remember Agnew as VP, of course, but don’t think I was interested enough at the time to learn details of the bribery and other allegations against him, except as indications of the general corruptness of the Nixon administration. By the time things came to a head for Agnew and he resigned, Watergate was in full-blown crazy mode. His ignominious departure was overshadowed by the SNM just days later.
scav
If there are only 10 babies on the floor, well then, we simply must wait until there is a quorum.
Uncle Cosmo
@different-church-lady: It’s still a great comeback.
College classmate of mine had a whole stack of the Blooper records & faked or not, some of the cuts were priceless. I recall one where the setup was a radio broadcast of a hockey game with beer commercials interspersed throughout. The voiceover intro explained that the ads were scripted to start with the live announcer pouring & drinking a glass of the brew. The audio then cut to the game broadcast – This match started at 8 PM yesterday, it is now 3:30 AM and we are now in the third, that’s right the third overtime period with the score still tied! But first a word from our sponsor… Foster-Brooks-ish hilarity ensued…
And there was the infamous Uncle Billy quote (–Are we off the air now? We are? Good. That oughta hold the little bastards for the night!).
Hey, I enjoyed ’em, YMMV.
Uncle Cosmo
@SiubhanDuinne: On March 15, 1965, I made the 15-minute walk from home to attend the opening ceremonies for the new North Point Area Branch of the Baltimore County Library, & at one point was standing no more than 15 feet from County Exec Agnew. He was already a lucky SOB, having benefited from a spat in the dominant Democratic Party machine to win election 3 years earlier. Had I suspected how far the horseshoe up his arse would take him, I could’ve changed history…
I own a copy of A Heartbeat Away, by then-US Attorney George Beall, discussing the Agnew case & the plea bargain that allowed him to plead nolo contendere to the bribery charges & avoid jail time, in exchange for resigning the office of VPOTUS. (In those innocent days, no one wanted a crook in the line of succession to the White House with a beleaguered POTUS. Now we have a grifter in the Oval Orifice & 40% of the country’s OK with it. Sheesh)
Ruckus
@OzarkHillbilly:
That exact quote could be used in 2 different lines of work.
Judges
Journalists
Both start with the same letter, I wonder if the J is the problem?
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
This describes every iota of drumpf.
He is pathetically bad.
At everything.
Full Stop.
The Other Chuck
@Immanentize: No, Apple actually decided to adopt a standard, namely USB-C. I use my Macbook charger to charge my Android phone now.