I don’t know if Trump will end up firing Mueller and I don’t know what the significance of firing McCabe is, but…it doesn’t mode well for Trump not firing Mueller. If Trump fires Mueller, nothing will happen immediately. Congress will do nothing. The right-wing media will back Trump. Bret, Bari, and Bobo will take a one or two day break from the global war against the Oberlin student council but that’s probably about it.
But none of that matters anyway. What matters is what happens in November. And if Mueller is fired, the left will be energized. And if the left is energized, we take back the House. Nothing else matters.
There’s a perverse irony to this for Never Trumpers. They claim to hate and fear Trump and I take them at their word on that. But they hate and fear angry hippies anymore. Now, their only hope of containing Trump is that hippies get angry enough to flip the House because if Dems take the House back it won’t be because Dems made a thoughtful moderate argument that won over all the Burkeans in the inner-ring suburbs, it will be because a lot of pissed off liberals voted and got everyone they know to vote. (Don’t get me wrong — Trump won’t be removed if Democrats take the House back, but there will be real investigations.)
The elections in November are the only thing that matters. All this bullshit about norms and so on is a waste of time. Give to the Balloon Juice fund that is split equally among all eventual Democratic nominees in House districts currently held by Republicans.
Update. This is one of the greatest movies ever made. See it if you can.
trollhattan
I laughed. Also, too, Julie Christie. Sigh.
PsiFighter37
Just ask Ana Navarro, Rick Wilson, and Bobo what they think about Mittens running for UT-SEN.
That tells you all you need to know about ‘Never Trump’ Republicans. They are as useless as the cardboard on an empty roll of toilet paper when you just took a giant dump and realized that you’re out of squares.
PsiFighter37
Just to add: Jeff Flake could easily run as a Democrat in Arizona and win the Senate race in style in November. The fact that he’s retiring, continues to vent about decency, and continues to vote for all of Trump’s nominations and policies, should tell you all you need to know about the most vociferous of the ‘Never Trump’ faction.
Doug!
@trollhattan:
What a great movie, right.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Yeah, I really don’t understand why kids at Oberlin or Berkeley seem to bother so many reasonable [sic] Republicans more than this feculent homunculus squatting at the top of the federal government. I know David Broder never got over the rampaging, scaaaaary-ass hippies in 1968 in Chicago, but, shit, he’s been dead for ten years now. I can’t believe his horror at what happened 50 years ago was so catching that every gasbag with an op-ed since has taken the same sickness, but I guess that’s what happened. These people will never get over 1968, not even the ones who wouldn’t be born for 20 years after that.
Mowgli
Thank you for the Altman and Cohen reference.
Doug!
@Mowgli:
One of the all time greats. I don’t love all Altman or all Cohen but they work together brilliantly in this.
zhena gogolia
Oh, God, my husband made the same witticism over dinner.
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
@PsiFighter37: Hell, he could caucus with the Dems today, and throw a huge monkey wrench into things. He’s a phony just like every other Never Trumper. Navarro’s another one I don’t want to hear from either.
Mary G
Broke my rule about not donation unless pictures of baby and/or guard dog are included, but you put one up the other day, so I coughed up $25.
Lyrebird
@zhena gogolia: So could you explain to the uninitiate?
Doug!
@Mary G:
Thanks!
zhena gogolia
@Lyrebird:
McCabe and Mrs. Miller was a film directed by Robert Altman and starring Julie Christie as a madam and Warren Beatty as a kind of Western hombre who looks as if he belongs in Beverly Hills. So when I started talking about McCabe at dinner my husband came out with “McCabe and Mr. Mueller.” Just like Doug.
Baud
I’m saddened that this isn’t the norm.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
We had two friends over Wednesday night, supposedly well educated fellows, and when the discussion got to politics they both mentioned voting for Hillary Clinton with a sigh, as if they just had to do it but felt really torn about it; and the phrase “the Democrats have to get away from identity politics” was also spoken.
Lyrebird
@zhena gogolia: thanks, didn’t even know what to Google… I’m now a tad less culturally illiterate!
Once upon a time I was semi-literate in Russian, btw, but did not get as far as reading much Gogol.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@zhena gogolia:
Beverly Hills is on the Westside.
Jeffro
#NeverTrumpers are still trying to have it both ways – Parker, Rubin, Wilson are still quick to call out perceived ‘dirty hippie’ leanings of today’s Dems (YEAH RIGHT) and above all avoid endorsing Wittes and Rauch’s “Boycott the Republicans” kind of proposal. I appreciate that they at least stand up for their principles and call out Trumpov & Co for their many illegal, unconstitutional, scummy dealings, but things are well past the point where that’s enough.
Let’s slap the GOP down, hard, this November. Sort of the electoral version of ‘kill ’em all, and let God sort ’em out’. After that, Kathleen, Jen, and Rick can go back to worrying about dirty hippies doing things like…providing health care for all our country’s citizens and keeping predatory lenders off of peoples’ backs.
Jeffro
@PsiFighter37: @PsiFighter37: Or…what you already said. =)
Baud
@zhena gogolia: Assholes.
Corner Stone
@Tilda Swintons Bald Cap:
Flake doesn’t have to caucus with anyone. Just vote along with the bullshit he keeps talking.
All those Never Trumpers are actively working to defeat D candidates in races up and down the state/federal level.
JPL
Someone better give the asshole meds
Baud
@JPL: He has a point in that he is a witch.
Baud
Never Trump, but Never Ever Dems.
Corner Stone
@Jeffro: Don’t forget asshole Tom Nichols who continues to shit all over a Democratic agenda. At every opportunity. I hate that fucking guy.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: Did you ask them what specific identity political stance we need to get away from? Just curious what people who say that would have us do.
Corner Stone
Where is FBI Director Chris Wray?
schrodingers_cat
@Corner Stone: Don’t many FPers and commenters quote him approvingly?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Isn’t what the President does, identity politics? Besides white nationalism what is his agenda?
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: Of course. We’ll still be the ones who are chastised over it and internalize it.
Lapassionara
@Baud: Really. This is why I said that I need a vocabulary lesson. Civil rights is the fundamental organizing principle of the Democratic Party. Why are we now calling basic civil rights for all citizens, “identity politics”?
Sheesh.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Assholes serve a useful function.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I want to buy that sentence a normally colored beer.
@Baud: I mostly avoid political arguments IRL, but this and critiques of “political correctness” always make want to badger people into explaining what they mean. Especially because people who use them think they’re being thoughtful (anti-identify politics, people who read BoBo) or edgy (anti-PC, people who like Bill Maher).
rikyrah
@Corner Stone:
Hmmm.. excellent question
Patricia Kayden
I could care less about Never Trumpers. They’re part of the reason we have Trump in office. Keep in mind that they would have backed any other Republican Clown who won the primaries. Trump is just too crass for their taste.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Well, they did reluctantly vote for Hillary. I wouldn’t put them in the outcast category.
JPL
@Corner Stone: Hiding in a corner in a fetal position, I presume.
Mary G
Statement from Hillary, bringing truth:
(It’s in the picture, I hope a front pager can find a better copy and post it. Seems like the more I get to know Hillary, the better I like her.)
Patricia Kayden
@zhena gogolia: Because Republicans aren’t into identity politics (aka White Supremacy) at all. Alrighty then.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Interesting observation
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
Somebody (NotMax?) made it here on a thread last night.
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia:
You had dinner with Mark Lilla?
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
As soon as I challenged the one who said that, he resorted to, “Let’s not talk about politics.”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: LOL emoticon. But it’s also infuriating.
Brachiator
I have been soooo waiting for this thread title!!
Thanks for not disappointing!
The evocation of the great Altman film even works for where the country is now. With Trump, corruption and venality rolls into the community, polluting and undermining it. Neither those who are cynical and mildly corrupt themselves, nor the innocent, flawed dreamers can withstand the onslaught of determined, powerful corporate interests.
Mary G
@Mary G: More from Hillary here, I think:
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus:
No, but I’m afraid I had dinner with people who have read Mark Lilla.
debbie
@zhena gogolia:
Like the slime creatures they are, they spew one talking point and then skitter away, claiming victory.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
I assume you then put your dinner fork to his throat and said, “No, motherfucker, I want to know what the fuck you meant by identity politics!”
Baud
@Mary G: She will never stop being gracious to those who are offended by what she says. Sometimes, I wish she would.
raven
Winter Lady, stay a while. . .
Traveling lady stay awhile
Until the night is over.
I’m just a station on your way,
I know I’m not your lover.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Pipe this.
Mary G
@Baud: It is a bit uncanny, isn’t it? She is made of steel.
ETA: Pun thread below!
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: Poor you.
@Baud: Well, of course she did. What other courses of action were open to her? She couldn’t very well use a teaspoon, now could she?
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@JPL: That tweet sounds even more demented than usual. I wonder if he believes all that.
Corner Stone
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t know about “approvingly” but I do agree he shows up way too often as an exemplar of some point to be made. Which I disagree with and disavow wholeheartedly. Tom Nichols is fucking scum and should be pushed into the tiny perv closet along with John Schindler.
I think Rick Wilson has a good sense of humor, but just like his fellow travelers J Rubin, David Frum and Liz Mair, they are all still out to fuck every D candidate they possibly can. All the while grifting of the R gravy train.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Wow.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Brachiator: Didn’t Mrs. Miller do it for money? If so, that’s another fitting theme.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: That would be uncouth.
efgoldman
@Corner Stone:
Under his desk in the fetal position.
Another Scott
Thanks for continuing to do this, Doug!
Let’s remember Gary Trauner for the Senate from Wyoming, also too.
We need to fight for every single seat.
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
What a wanker.
efgoldman
@Lapassionara:
The RWNJs are assholes with oak leaf clusters, but they are REALLY good at finding short, pithy denigrating phrases and repeating… repeating… repeating… repeating… repeating…
Baud
@Another Scott: Ooooooh, he can be Baud!’s first superdelegate.
Brachiator
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
Mrs Miller maybe is fond of McCabe, and he loves her, but she makes him pay for her services anyway. She is also much smarter than he is, and tries to warn him when the powerful interests roll into town. He doesn’t listen. The movie is tragically lyrical.
A lot of people thought that they had Trump figured out, and thought that he would be easy to block or control or contain. He ain’t Superman, but right now he is rolling over the people who think that they are wise to his game.
FlipYrWhig
@zhena gogolia: “Get away from identity politics” means “trick burly white bigots into voting for us.” It’s not going to work. Burly white bigots are Republicans. They like being Republicans. They’re not sitting around waiting to be convinced into changing their minds by some clever promise they’ve never heard before. They consider people like your friends the enemy. It’s such a weird fantasy.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
i think I would enjoy having a couple of jars with this twitter Nixon guy
@Baud: Rigged system! Rigged system!
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Old friend. Lots of history. Not worth it.
Ksmiami
@efgoldman: the GOP – authoritarian thugs – the party of death and fascism
Jeffro
@zhena gogolia:
OMG, don’t they always do that? They can never answer the question, never defend whatever GOP person X has recently done or the legislation that the GOP is pushing, etc etc etc.
They run, they resort to “whataboutism”, they try to raise some made-up Hillary issue…they just never want to get behind what they’re really behind.
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That tweet is hilarious!
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s hypnotic. The synching is incredibly well done.
Baud
@zhena gogolia: You wouldn’t say that if you’ve ever held a dinner fork to someone’s throat.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
If I started with this particular guy there’d be a bad end to it.
zhena gogolia
@Steeplejack:
I can’t even remember what song they originally danced to, can you? I guess I could look it up.
Frankensteinbeck
Saturday Night Massacre XVII: Mueller Never Dies!
@Lapassionara:
Because for the vast majority of whites, calling someone a racist, even implying that there are racists around, is much worse than actual racism. Bigotry is an issue to be swept under the rug. It’s easy for the bigots to plant any harmless sounding euphemism for their horrors that they want in soil like that.
Corner Stone
@zhena gogolia: Older friend than one you’ve known for 40%+ of your life?
Lapassionara
@efgoldman: Yes. I recall when we had the power of oratory on our side. Now, we have the people who do something called “messaging” for a living.
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: You have to start somewhere.
zhena gogolia
@Corner Stone:
More like 30%. But he was there for me when I was down.
Bonnie
I am having a bad day. What movie?
Corner Stone
I been shedding them racist asshole people out my life like a dog that just ran through a sprinkler in the yard.
raven
@Bonnie: McCabe and Mr. Miller
Villago Delenda Est
The Never Trumpers are still Rethuglican swine deserving of tumbrel rides. They are still part of a party that has building toward Donald for the last 50 years. They’re all complicit in Donald’s betrayal of the Constitution, no matter how much they protest, because they’ve been butthurt about treating Blahs as humans for that same 50 years.
Fuckem.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
It was some completely unmemorable British pop song from a couple of years before.
I keep looking on the TCM schedule to see if that movie comes up again. At least now I can remember the name.
Jeffro
Maggie Haberman has a tweet up saying that Trumpov & Co just (as in, the past couple of days) received a list of questions from Mueller that would be a part of any interview with the Special Counsel’s office. Any wonder why Trumpov is melting down?
mai naem mobile
I just think there’s more to Dolt45s crimes than just money laundering and collusion. He is just freaking out too fucking much for that . I’m wondering more along the lines of under age hookers, sex trafficking and murder. It’s worse than what we were assuming early on.
LongHairedWeirdo
@Bonnie: The title of the post is a pun on the name of the movie McCabe and Mrs. Miller (as Raven said, but I’m clarifying just in case you’re having a day akin to one of my worst days, where it’d take me time to realize that the post had a title.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@raven: Also, as I recall Julie Christie played Mrs. Miller. She also played Lara in Dr Zhivago, and Lara embodies Russia in Pasternak’s novel. All roads lead to Russia.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: Hey, it’s totally hep man! (1:59).
Cheers,
Scott.
raven
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Don’t miss “Petulia” .
Omnes Omnibus
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Mind officially blown, man.
Steeplejack
@zhena gogolia:
Here’s the original.
JPL
@Jeffro: could be an explanation of Trump’s latest tweet. Truthfully, I have no idea what he will do next, but I assume it won’t be good.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
One of the classic movie channels, the one that still does classic movies, had one today about Sean O’Casy, with Julie Christie and Maggie Smith as the women he was torn between. I was tempted to watch it just for those two actresses. My first exposure to Maggie Smith was Gosford Park. I’m curious to see one of her earlier roles.
Brachiator
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
And Warren Beatty started in “Reds.” All roads do indeed lead to Russia.
Jeffro
@JPL: He can’t believe that someone, anyone, won’t rid him of this meddlesome Special Counsel. And he doesn’t have the guts to jump out there himself…yet…
Brachiator
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Well, there is the movie she won the Best Actress Oscar for, “The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.”
raven
@Brachiator: Travels with My Aunt is weird.
Lapassionara
@Villago Delenda Est: Truth. Why does anyone call Republicans conservative. They are radicals and have been for years. They deserve all the shame and opprobrium we can give them, if only they could feel shame.
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
But you’d have to deal with Rod Taylor in the starring role. Probably not worth it.
Immanentize
@Steeplejack: @Another Scott:
As far as I am concerned, there is never enough gold lame in fashion these days.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Brachiator: I love that book and I have never seen the movie. I should fix that.
Brachiator
@Jeffro:
Trump is trying to rid himself of anyone who might prevent him from doing something stupid. It is quite a game he is playing with himself.
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
Yes, it’s a better pick than Young Cassidy.
Mary G
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Brachiator: I was going to rush in with “The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie,” but Brachiator beat me. If you haven’t seen it, you are in for a treat.
schrodingers_cat
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: A Room with a View
Chet Murthy
@mai naem mobile:
wut? There’s that woman who was raped by Littledick when she was 13. There’s the “models” his company trafficked from Europe to NYC (yeah, like we’re gonna believe he didn’t try to schtup ’em when they were powerless). Maybe he didn’t order a murder. But the rest? We’ve known about that stuff since before the election.
JR
@Corner Stone: Rick Wilson is a card carrying member of the Bush Cabal. Look forward to seeing him on the enemies list sometime soon.
Gin & Tonic
I normally (almost always) hate “Promoted” Tweets, but props to Nissan USA for supporting @BlackGirlsCode.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@zhena gogolia: Ha, I was trying to remember the actor’s name. It’s familiar but I can’t place him in anything.
@Mary G: That’s one of those titles, book and movie, that’s been on my list forever but I never seem to get around to. I usually like to read the book first, but I think I know enough about Jean Brodie that I don’t have to worry about spoilers. The Remains of the Day is one where I really wish I’d read the book first.
Lapassionara
@schrodingers_cat: Yes. I love that movie, and she is great in it.
Gin & Tonic
So Election Day in Russia is underway. Who do you guys think will win? Real sense of suspense and uncertainty, isn’t there?
Steeplejack
@Immanentize:
You’ll get no argument from us!
zhena gogolia
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The Time Machine, The Birds.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
Does the NYT have one of those arrow thingies so we can track it minute by minute as the oblasti come in?
Steeplejack
@Chet Murthy:
Other than Ivanka?
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia: Someone else will have to check. I don’t do NYT.
NotMax
@raven
Smith is clearly having a ball being able to ham it up in that flick.
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Too gross to call.
;)
schrodingers_cat
@Lapassionara: I love that movie, everyone’s great in it.
ETA: Helena Bonham Carter, Daniel Day Lewis, Maggie Smith, Judi Dench.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Ew.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: Ew…. and yeah. I figure at least a fifty percent chance
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus, @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Everybody was thinking it. Well, you are now, anyway.
ruemara
@zhena gogolia: Slap your friends for me.
Lapassionara
@schrodingers_cat: Me too. I loved the opening with the aria soundtrack. I have seen it many times, and have sought out other Merchant-Ivory films and enjoyed them also.
Omnes Omnibus
@ruemara: The appropriate response has already been covered.
marv
I have never been more certain that this blog is on the right track, not just when Doug made the McCabe and Mrs. Miller reference, but when so many early comments were right there with him. Say what you will, but Altman had a pretty big view of what it is to be human
Patricia Kayden
@Gin & Tonic: Trump?
Gin & Tonic
@zhena gogolia: Completely OT, but here’s a CNN story about a malfunctioning ski lift in Georgia (the country, not the state.) There’s an embedded Instagram video that you could use to teach your students how to swear – it’s pretty funny, actually, as long as you don’t think about the people likely being injured.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Speaking of skiing. Congrats on your anniversary day and good for you on popping in on the first responders with a thank you.
zhena gogolia
@Gin & Tonic:
That’s bad!
Doug!
@marv:
I was amazed so many people got the reference.
Omnes Omnibus
@Doug!: I am disappointed that you are amazed.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Thanks. I feel like I exorcised a demon. I didn’t realize until the end of the day that I needed it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Maybe I need to go back to Mykonos to fully heal my elbow thing from 1992. But I’d need to find the Canadian girl too. Sounds like too much effort.
Bonnie
@raven: That is really an old, old movie. Don’t think it is in my memory banks any more.
Corner Stone
@Gin & Tonic:
Is that what the coming of age boys are calling it these days?
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Sounds like a more interesting incident than mine was.
Omnes Omnibus
@Bonnie: How would you describe Casablanca?
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: A really, really, really, old, old movie?
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Drunk (of course) walking an even drunker Canadian girl to her hotel. She stumbles into me. I fall. i have my right hand in the pocket of my jacket. I can’t get my hand out to break my fall. I take the impact on my right elbow. Arm doubles in size. Girl runs away. Some nerve damage. I couldn’t fully straighten the arm for 20 years.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Murder by Death. You won’t regret it. David Niven and Maggie Smith have a fine old time chewing the scenery as Dick and Dora Charleston. It’s a very funny parody of classic detective capers with a terrific ensemble cast.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Dude. You had 26 years to come up with a better version of that story, and this is all you can do?
Gin & Tonic
@SiubhanDuinne: Holy cow, I haven’t thought of that in like forever. I loved David Niven in pretty much everything.
chris
Looking for Russian election news, found this at the Guardian. Grifters all the way down.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: OMFG!
Brachiator
@Gin & Tonic:
In Mother Russia, the exit polls are really exit poles, used to spear the bodies of anyone who fails to vote correctly.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I used to tell people that I won my ex in a card game in Mombasa when they asked how we met. I have my moments.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Did you tell people that before or after she became ex?
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Before. With her standing there and agreeing. Full house. Aces over threes.
Steve in the ATL
@Gin & Tonic: I was just about to say that!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Sometimes I am simply honest.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
You guys ought to take your act on the road: “The Two Lawyers and Gin”
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: No gin involved. It is more of a summer drink. Also, Steve and I could only play a few WASP locations and most WASPs don’t really have a sense of humor.
ETA: Or an early evening drink. A martini before dinner, sure. Doesn’t spoil the palate like many other drinks do.
RemindsMeOfThatMovie
Finally something I can agree with DougJ on. He doesn’t know what is going to happen. Has no idea what is going on. So I feel so comfortable knowing that DougJ has told me that, hey no biggy if he fires Mueller. Just vote in Nov. Such comfort knowing that’s it’s no big deal other than the fact it is.
At least he didn’t mention the Applebees salad bar.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
They do golf humor, don’t they? For that matter the lime green pants with the whales are a joke.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, excuuuuse me, then.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
I adored David Niven. He also wrote two memoirs, and a WW2-era romantic novel I quite enjoyed (Go Slowly, Come Back Quickly). I think he wrote them all himself, no ghosts, although I may be wrong on that. But all three books were entertaining and intelligent. Wonder if I still have them someplace.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman: I prefer Nantucket red. Is that a dealbreaker?
Omnes Omnibus
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: Fuck off.
@efgoldman: I don’t golf. And yes, the whale pants are meant to be humorous. See my point.
@Gin & Tonic: It is for the best. Trust me.
Steve in the ATL
@Gin & Tonic: if you really want to be part of the act, you can’t be dropping lines from the 1970’s.
Now let me tell you about this bit Omnes and I have been working on about “getting small”.
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
Up to your traveling companions
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: How faded are they?
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
The next line is “do you know how many naugas died to make this….”
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman: @Omnes Omnibus: whale pants and a Brooks Brothers fun shirt? Comedy gold! That’s how you roll at the yacht club’s St. Patrick’s day mixer. And ignore the fact that we don’t accept people of Irish descent as members.
chopper
@Steeplejack:
yep, notmax.
Steve in the ATL
@SiubhanDuinne: wait—who’s on first?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
The pie filter has been getting quite the workout over the last 24 hours.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: The tacky comment is her sine qua non as Dora.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus:
Just so. Enough that you know I didn’t buy them this season, but not so faded that I might look poor, old sport.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: The multi-panel different colored stripe one?
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: that’s the one. A scathing indictment of the New England WASP sense of humor and fun.
ETA: and right now, scores of lurkers are thinking “of course those two assholes were thinking the same thing!”
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus:
I see your point.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: My grandmother gave one to me as a Christmas present. It was the wrong size.
randy khan
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
We really need a better class of troll.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: it was for the best. Trust me.
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
In the early 70s (pre-mrs efg) I dated a woman with much too much money and much too little sense. She came home one day with a $90 pair of pre-faded jeans with leather patches from Louis of Boston. That’s ~$540 in 2018 money.
Gin & Tonic
@Steve in the ATL: It’s 11:15 pm EDT on a Saturday. There aren’t scores of lurkers.
efgoldman
@Gin & Tonic:
There aren’t even scores of commenters.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Oh, I know. I would have only worn it under a sweater.
Raoul
Hey, Doug! Great work. I keep chipping in.
GA-06 is missing from the BJ thermometer, BTW. Karen Handel :/ .
https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/55582
AZ-09 might be a good addition, too. Open seat.
Steve in the ATL
@Gin & Tonic: ones of lurkers? I was assuming some people have gone out and come home already, as I did. And that lurking on B-J is a de rigeur pre-party ritual on the west coast.
@efgoldman: a great argument for bringing back 90% tax rates!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: @Gin & Tonic: @Omnes Omnibus: Like anyone needs something like that to hate us. .
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman:
It sure feels like it when Brachiator, TenguPhule, and Corner Stone take over a thread
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
Rates were still pretty high in the early 70s. Most of her money was insurance payouts and from trust funds. Mostly not taxable from then or now.
sukabi
This Twitter thread on standards of conduct for the FBI is a pretty great read….
Former FBI agent breaks it down.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Jebus, did you miss the trolls in earlier threads?
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
But never this late. They’re daytime/early evening folks.
ETA: I think this is after Tangupule’s bedtime. He’s very young
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Young? I don’t know. Goku is a kid. TP is just a violence porn asshole.
catclub
Why is more not being made of Sessions – yet again- forgetting that he recused himself of all matters either Russia OR Clinton?
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: all I saw were a plethora of pie posts.
Mmm…pie
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
I was under the long time impression that he was no older than his 20s. Don’t remember where i got it. Maybe it’s just his maturity level.
Amir Khalid
@catclub:
Didn’t you see the “except maybe sometimes” clause in Sessions’ recusal statement? It’s there if you squint at it just right.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: if it came up, I missed it.
Ruckus
@sukabi:
That’s good.
I’d bet that a lot of agents feel the same way.
ETA Also, it sounds like working at the FBI is a fun job. Wait, what’s the definition of fun again?
Mary G
Just saw on twitter that Elvis Costello released “This Years Model” 40 years ago. I am an old.
Chet Murthy
@Steeplejack: srsly, no joking, man. You don’t remember? She filed civil suit (I assume state of limitations ran out) and was about to go public, but then decided to drop the lawsuit (apparently got threats on her life). Right before the election, IIRC. She’s in her 30s now.
Jeffro
POLITICO just put up the mother of all Russia resources: See the 285 people connected to the Trump-Russia investigation
I mean, what, this is ALL made up and #FakeNews?!?!?
oldgold
All things considered, the firing of McCabe is a net plus for the resistance.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mary G: I was 13. This Year’s Girl was the first punkish song I ever heard. Thank you for the reminder.
sukabi
@Ruckus: it would be nice push back if the FBI rules of conduct, as explained in that thread, were laid out on tv… Just the juxtaposition of standards of conduct for the FBI vs the assclowns in the executive branch would shut down a bunch of the nonsense
eemom
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
Yup.
Don’t mind the kewl kids. Cyber dick swinging at this place is like the highlight of their lives.
Yarrow
@Jeffro: That’s been up since January. Says it was last updated on 2/20/18. Is there something else new there? It’s a good resource but needs updating almost daily!
sukabi
@Jeffro: heh that might explain Donnie Dollhands Twitter meltdown…it’s a bit on the early side.
Omnes Omnibus
@eemom: asshole talks to troll. well done.
NotMax
Crossfire about to begin on TCM (also plays again Sunday at 10 a.m. Eastern). Proto-noir classic which even the presence of normally milquetoasty Robert Young as a dogged police investigator couldn’t dilute.
Robert Ryan portrayed a tautly strung sociopath like no one else.
Sunday’s showing immediately followed by another, much lesser budget yet interesting story of a sociopath, Gun Crazy.
Steeplejack
@Chet Murthy:
It was a joke. I do remember.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@sukabi: is The Beast up and tweeting? Here’s another link for Paul Ryan to ignore, that Meuller probably is not
ETA: hmm… messed up that link.
Litlebritdifrnt
Hello everyone. I had a thought for the long dead thread downstairs about the guy found not guilty of assault of his attackers. Every is like “but how could he even be charged?” Well let me tell you it used to happen every day in County Courthouses. I used to sit in court during first appearances (usually because I was waiting for a particular case) the Sheriffs would bring in a guy charged with assaulting his wife (or girlfriend) Judge would read him his charges, then his rights, then tell him that if he managed to bail out he couldn’t go back to the house unless it was with a Sheriff to collect his belongings, etc., etc. The very next person they brought in, wearing an orange jumpsuit and handcuffs would be the wife (or girlfriend) who was charged with defending herself from the attack, Judge would read the charges, female would say “but he was strangling me” (bearing in mind the guy had literally been in front of the Judge being charged with Felony strangulation of a female) and the Judge would go through the same bullshit about bail etc., and she couldn’t go back to the house without a Sheriff to collect her belongings. Great, unless of course there were children in the house, in which case the children would have to be taken into DSS custody because neither parent was allowed back to the house. Didn’t matter that the female was later found not guilty of assault because of self-defense because by the time the thing came to trial the kids had been in care for months if not years and DSS decided that it was in their best interests to stay there. I literally saw this shit every day. I do not know if it was the police officers who would encourage the guy to press charges or if it was the Magistrates once he got to jail but sure as shit SOMEONE was telling him that he could also press charges for his wife slapping him about when she fought back from the assault, you can be sure that he didn’t come up with it himself. This is the way the system works and it sucks because it is all set up to make money for the a) Police Department, b)the Bail Bondsmen and c) the Court System.
Corner Stone
@Steve in the ATL: Man, that’s just fucking rotten. Go fuck yourself, assface.
Michael
Bode.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Troll’s long since gone to bed
Omnes Omnibus
@Litlebritdifrnt:?
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
Don’t forget the Coen brothers first movie, Blood Simple (1984), at 1:45 EDT this morning. Young Frances McDormand in her screen début!
efgoldman
@Corner Stone:
Cranky when we’re up past our bedtime?
opiejeanne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I would suggest “Tea With Mussolini”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@NotMax: You forgot a Robert! I looked up Crossfire on IMDB because I’m sure I’ve seen it, but my memory’s a bit hazy. I thought that was Lizbeth Scott’s first noir appearance, but the internet tells me it’s Gloria Grahame.
ETA: @opiejeanne: Thanks, I’m gonna have to have a Maggie Smith/Film noir film fest to catch up on all these recommendations
Litlebritdifrnt
@Omnes Omnibus: I was talking about the long dead thread downstairs.
frosty
@Steeplejack: @zhena gogolia: OMG!! They weren’t really dancing to that originally? Extra points for Psychotic Reaction, one of my favorite Frat Rock songs.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
This thread earlier today (Saturday).
Steeplejack
@frosty:
Link to original clip here.
frosty
@Steeplejack: That’s just amazin’!!
Steeplejack
@frosty:
Yeah, the edit is impeccable.
Steve in the ATL
@Corner Stone: chillax, dude. At least most of your comments are funny!
Another Scott
@Litlebritdifrnt: What a horrorshow.
And totally believable.
After hearing about the horrors of the system in Missouri (e.g. Ferguson, and elsewhere around the country), it’s amazing that there hasn’t been an uprising against the injustice of it all.
:-(
Cheers,
Scott.
Captain C
@Gin & Tonic: i actually skied there, once, when it was new. I kind of wonder if this incident was a Russian hack.
Ruckus
@sukabi:
No, it wouldn’t make the slightest bit of difference.
The assclowns don’t give a damn about standards, morals, ethics, etc. No one on the conservative side of the aisle, from the lowest peon to the current president thinks that any of those are anything to worry or even think about whatsoever.
T S
Y’all are a bunch of ass faces. Every. One. of. You. And I love all you assfaces, even if you don’t care much for me.
Live and let love.
Kathleen
@Steeplejack: It was Not Max.
Uncle Cosmo
@zhena gogolia: Late 2D thread, but..may I suggest that every time assholes bitch about “identity politics” we counter with something like
Uncle Cosmo
@SiubhanDuinne: Co-sign avec enthousiasme! Peter Sellers, Alec Guinness, Peter Falk, & notably Truman Capote as Lionel Twayne…if “Dick & Dora Charleston” didn’t already alert you to what’s (largely) afoot…