PA Open Thread: Sow the Windbag, Reap the Fartcloud

Of course, the Repubs prefer to blame… well, anything other than the obvious:

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    One thing I noticed in the developing liberal motivation we’ve seen is that the ACA repeal was a huge motivator. People who had never paid attention before found out the Republican Party was trying to kill them and were furious.

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    TenguPhule says:


    People who had never paid attention before found out the Republican Party was trying to kill them and were furious.

    Unfortunately, the Republicans are never going to stop trying to kill them and us.

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    Yutsano says:

    the economy is growing, unemployment is at a 17 year-low, and there are no major wars.

    All three of these things could change quite rapidly in the next few months. Especially with Dolt45 at the helm.

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    If people stay mad and vote actively enough, their murderousness will become irrelevant.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    I’d like to believe that Trump’s rallies are huge motivators (away from R) but if so, that means Lamb didn’t have the votes to put him over the top till the weekend rally.

    Still, a win is a win however close. I hope that Trump plans to rally in every district. It’s not like he needs to spend any time in the office.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Schools that decided not to let their students protest aren’t looking great today. In central California, school officials at Mt. Diablo High School chained the front gate to prevent the kids from leaving, so the students broke through. Not a good look for the administration.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    AFAIK, so far the numbers from all of these elections are showing that Republicans are showing up in the same or slightly higher numbers, but Democrats are coming out of the woodwork in record numbers.

    As you were saying, I think that once previously non-political people realized what Trump is up to, they got mad.

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    Baud says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Sigh. Seven years too late but I’ll take it because what choice do I have?

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    Mike in NC says:

    According to Politics NC, this state has several Congressional districts that are more competitive than PA-18 (despite the outrageous gerrymandering). All are attracting candidates eager to run against Trump’s agenda.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: Getting them to stay mad is hard AF. I remember how quickly the assholes forgot who saved their sorry asses in 2010.

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    Golly, who knew selling your soul had consequences?

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    @Yutsano: well, maybe not unemployment, lagging indicator and all.

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    Cermet says:

    @TenguPhule: But this year there is the orange fart cloud constantly tweeting stupid and saying racist things and doing terrible things against the country; that asswipe will not stop doing these things so the base will remain very motivated

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    Yutsano says:

    @Cermet: And if one thing was true from the election, it was this: Dolt45’s base is not the majority in this country. And not even the majority in a lot of districts, as we’re finding out more and more.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    This motherfucker

    David Axelrod @ davidaxelrod
    IE for embattled IL Rep. Lipinski, who refused to endorse @BarackObama for reelection, sends a late mailer to D primary voters with a heroic photo of Obama, encaptioned “Known for Leading.”
    Five years late!
    And VERY #cynical!
    In fact, Lipinski was one of the few Democrats who voted against the Affordable Care Act, which makes the Obama mailer even more galling.

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    Haroldo says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m a naif, I know, but what a shameless asshole!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I haven’t seen this reported officially, but a friend of mine — parent of a student at Dunwoody (GA) HS — posted to FB “that the principal tried to diminish the impact by forcing the kids behind the school. However, they walked to the front and rallied against violence there, in plain view.”

    Good for the kids.

    Separately, I learned that hundreds of students at Oak Park River Forest HS went outside and protested, in a peaceful and principled way. Good for them. They make me proud to be an OPRFHS graduate.

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    Haroldo says:

    Ya know, I think it was a stratergic error for Saccone not to campaign under his stage name – M. Ditka.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    What does “IE” mean in this context? “Id est” doesn’t make sense here. Guessing it’s a Twitter-specific abbreviation, but I don’t know.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    Did they really say “porn” when describing someone from Pittsburg? Unpossible.

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    Barbara says:

    Using another candidate’s campaign rallies as a form of political joyriding is such a perfect way of describing Trump’s behavior.

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    Haroldo says:

    @Barbara: I concur.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Maybe it stands for “Illinois Elections” or something.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    Just found a good summary of the PA redistricting fight at the Philly paper. The fight’s not over.

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    Yutsano says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think you’re right.

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Link plz?

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    mai naem mobile says:

    We need to have a term for these GOP candidates who lose after Dolt45 does a rally for them. Like maybe Saccone got Trumpled or Saccone became a Trumplinger.

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    Brachiator says:


    People who had never paid attention before found out the Republican Party was trying to kill them and were furious.

    Republicans promised to repeal the ACA and replace it with something better. A catchy, easy to remember remedy.

    And then they ran away from constituents, avoided Town Hall meetings, lied, did nothing. Meanwhile, a lot of people could not get reasonably priced insurance, access to doctors, etc. And in response, Republicans fucked up health care even more. A lot of people were paying attention and tried to be heard. And even those who were not paying attention got slapped in the face anyway. That’s quite a wake up call, even for those in denial.

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    George Spiggott says:

    @mai naem mobile:


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    Steeplejack says:

    @mai naem mobile:

    Trumpleberries: shitballs left dangling in the breeze after the asshole has done his thing.

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    NotMax says:

    @mai naem mobile

    Gabrieled. As in cut down by the sounding of the trump.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @George Spiggott:

    Whoa. Great minds think alike—and so do ours.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    I’m a little embarrassed at how badly I want this to be true. Just a little

    Donald Trump Jr. and his wife, Vanessa Trump, are struggling through marital problems and friends say they are heading for divorce, multiple sources have exclusively confirmed to Page Six.
    Vanessa and the eldest son of President Donald Trump married in November 2005 and have five children. But while they have not legally separated, friends say they have been living separate lives.
    Divorce proceedings have not yet been initiated, but friends say they expect the couple to file soon. A spokesperson for Don Jr., Vanessa and the Trump Organization declined to comment, despite numerous requests to do so over two days.

    I’m more embarrassed to have looked at, and linked to, Page Six

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    clay says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: We had a pretty good-sized walkout at my school. I told my students I supported their cause, and that we wouldn’t be doing anything while they were gone. I think about 60% of the kids participated.

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    woodrowfan says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: good get some juicy details from this…..

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    George Spiggott says:


    My school, Berkeley High, had an impressive walkout:

    “The school administration embraced the students’ plan, helping facilitate the event. Several school and district leaders, Berkeley School Board members and Berkeley High teachers and staff came to the protest Wednesday, while designated teachers stayed behind with students who chose not to walk out of class.”

    “I’m not here to tell you that the constant threat of being shot at school can destroy our ability to learn — because you know that,” yelled one student into the microphone. “Today we must move past our primitive ways. When leaders act like children and children act like leaders, you know change is coming,” he said.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @Yutsano: That’s what I get for trying to post a link from the phone.

    Try this one

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    ruemara says:

    @George Spiggott: Great speech.

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    Groucho48 says:

    So, the NYT decided to explain why Lamb won.

    Conor Lamb Wins Pennsylvania House Seat, Giving Democrats a Map for Trump Country

    The map? Wait for it, wait for it…why it’s for Dems to bash Pelosi. Brilliant! Later in the article, it is mentioned that the Reps ran a virulently anti-Pelosi campaign and it didn’t work, but, the NYT never lets facts get in the way of a Dems in Disarray story.

    No mention of health care as an issue. Very little mention of the fact that in a district Trump won by 20 points, the Rep ran as a Trump clone and lost, so, maybe we should ponder that a bit. N’uh-uh. What Dems need to do in red and purple districts is to bash Pelosi and it wouldn’t hurt to be pro gun nut. I mean it’s not as if there’s a big wave of anti-gun nuts sweeping the country. Or, that reasonable gun regulations are supported even by a majority of NRA members.

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    boatboy_srq says:

    @Groucho48: More and more I think the FTFNYT is simply a bunch of erudite Teahadis writing what boils down to Why Democrats Win.

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    Ken says:


    Oak Park River Forest HS

    That has to be Chicago suburbs, right? Every other town is some combination of those four names.

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    Chip Daniels says:

    Then the other half of this song and dance routine is for a concern troll to argue that we should turn on Pelosi because she’s too “controversial and divisive”.
    Of course, the entire rightwing strategy is to make whoever the Dem leader is into Mao and Hannibal Lector combined, no matter who it is.
    It sounds self evidently stupid when you say it in blunt terms- “The opposition party hates our leader so we should dump her for someone they like.”

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    Karen says:

    Saccone didn’t concede, will there be a recount?

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    mai naem mobile says:

    @George Spiggott: @Steeplejack: Trumpleberries. I like that. It also has the ring of Santorum. I am going to start using Trumpleberries.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    @Karen: they would be truly stupid to do a recount unless the gap goes down to under a hundred. It would just drag on a losing story for the GOP on an only good till November seat which is not going to make a difference for a Congressional vote. Waste of money and resources on top of everything else.

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    LongHairedWeirdo says:

    @TenguPhule: Yes, but…

    But, a lot of people are really shocked that the GOP supported Trump.
    But a lot of people are shocked that Trump could win.
    And they have the repeal of the ACA on their minds too.

    The GOP won’t stop trying, and won’t stop lying, but they might finally be far enough out on a limb that they’ll find out just how rotted it is.

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