MAGAts Open Thread: Conor Lamb for Pittsburgh!

Trump isn’t the only top Republican who’s found Saccone underwhelming. The widely-held view from Republican officials: Democrat Conor Lamb is a far superior candidate to Saccone and running a far better campaign. Lamb is running effectively as Republican Lite. He’s pro-gun and says he personally opposes to abortion (though he supports abortion rights).

The thing that most irks senior Republicans involved in the race: Saccone has been a lousy fundraiser. Lamb has outraised Saccone by a staggering margin — nearly 500 percent…

I spoke on Saturday to Corry Bliss, who runs the outside groups linked to Paul Ryan and may have as much as $140 million to spend on the midterm elections.

“The lesson of this race is that campaigns and candidates matter,” Bliss told me. “In this environment, when one campaign out-raises and runs circles around the other, that creates a number of challenges that are tough to overcome.”…

Why this matters: Forecaster Nate Silver tweeted today: “Stating the hopefully-obvious, but the fact that PA-18 is competitive is a really bad sign for Republicans. It voted for Trump by 20 points and Romney by 17. The previous Republican incumbent there (Tim Murphy) didn’t even have a Democratic challenger in 2014 or 2016 & won by 28 points the last time he did, in 2012.”…

Bottom line: Cook Political Report’s Amy Walter emailed me this quick analysis: “My short answer is that one should never read too much into any one race but this is more than Saccone. This is a red congressional district that should go for the generic Republican. But the environment today is much worse than ‘normal’ for Republicans. That’s not because of Saccone or Lamb, but because of Trump.”


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58 replies
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    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice says:

    I donated to Conor Lamb because of one of these threads. I’d forgotten until I got a nice little thank-you postcard in the mail today. I wonder how many the campaign has sent out of state (I’m in San Francisco)? Hope it’s thousands, and hope it all pays off. That loathsome Trump rally spectacle made me wonder, for umpteenth time, what country/century I’m living in.

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    Tom65 says:

    I’m trying not to get too excited about PA-18. Dems hold a very slight edge in registration (about 7K), so it’s all about motivation. If the Dems make a showing and the moderate Republicans stay home, there’s a chance.

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    The Lodger says:

    That endorsement came from the real paper, not the Scaife paper. That’s disgusting.

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    Yutsano says:

    Republicans should be scared regardless of the outcome. If Saccone wins but just barely there’s a bunch of Republicans in slim districts that will have a very rough November. If Lamb wins (GO CONOR!!!) then it’s panic time for the Republicans. Also: if Lamb wins people gotta start calling out Walker for his bullshit of keeping seats empty.

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    debbie says:

    The excerpt of Saccone’s speech I heard earlier today was equally hateful.

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    debbie says:

    “Given his time of life, he is 60, and varied background, he is equipped to be a strong and independent voice for the 18th.”

    WTF does this even mean? “His time of life”?

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    Old School says:

    Is what I’m supposed to see about the signs at the rally that they are Trump signs rather than Saccone?

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    Baud says:

    A Lamb win would be even better than the Doing Jones win because the GOP would have the pedophile excuse to fall back on.

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    geg6 says:

    @The Lodger:

    It’s no longer a real paper. Some wingnut bunch in Ohio bought it. We have no real paper anymore.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    The coming wave will expose the soft, white underbelly of gerrymandering. If you’ve carved out a bunch of 51% Republican districts, you’d better run perfect campaigns with maximum turnout, and that’s unlikely to happen in 2018.

    Ain’t I the optimist?

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    @debbie: I think they mean he’s menopausal. That should appeal to the ladies.

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    Tokyokie says:

    @debbie: That white guys gain wisdom from the very length of their existences on this moral toil. Doesn’t apply to anybody else; they’d just be old and unenergetic.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @debbie: I thought it meant “don’t vote for the young whippersnapper!”.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @debbie: He’s an old white male and therefore will make sure the brown kids stay off of lawns.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud:

    Doing Jones win

    That has win all over it, and I don’t care what anyone says.

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    No One of Consequence says:

    @Tokyokie: Not to be pedantic, but did you mean Mortal *C*oil?

    – NOoC

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    🌷 Martin says:

    Breaking: “House Republicans say they found no evidence of collusion”

    I know. It’s a completely unpredictable result.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Pittsburgh Post Gazette

    Not even pretending not to be Nazi supporters anymore.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    “House Republicans say they found no evidence of collusion”

    Fortunately, the crime is conspiracy.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @hellslittlestangel:

    The coming wave will expose the soft, white underbelly of gerrymandering.

    Well played.

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    hilts says:

    The Pittsburgh Post Gazette is a putrid steaming pile of excrement and isn’t good enough to use as lining for a bird cage or cat litter box.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @debbie:

    WTF does this even mean? “His time of life”?

    That special time of life when erectile dysfunction drugs probably will not give him a fatal heart attack during an extremely embarrassing moment.

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule: Not surprising, since they didn’t look for any.

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    germy says:

    Look at all those shiny young faces at the drumpf rally.

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    MJS says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I believe there may be texts, and maybe pictures, but no tape. Stormy is looking to make a killing on what she has, but there’s no way Trump agreed to a video. And IANAL, but if he didn’t agree to it, it would be illegal to share it (I think).

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    Cheryl from Maryland says:

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I got one as well. No money ask, just a lovely thank you.

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    @MJS: if there is would you watch it

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    TenguPhule says:

    @MJS:

    but there’s no way Trump agreed to a video.

    I’ve learned to stop saying Trump could not have done stupid thing x.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Mike Memoli @ mikememoli
    NEWS: House Intel Republicans have finished a 150+ page draft report on their Russia investigation, finding NO COLLUSION between Trump & Russians
    Equally significant, Republicans on House Intel are disputing the January 2017 intelligence community assessment that Russians had a “clear preference” for then-candidate Trump

    @MJS: depends on the state? IANAL either. I can imagine her making a quick video of trump, not one I would want to see, without him knowing about it. “I’m just checking my texts….”

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @germy: I find the young ones especially depressing

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    germy says:

    My mom (who was a republican for 57 years) just got a donation request from the RNC and this is what she's sending back 😂😂 pic.twitter.com/CIww0cgY5H

    — Jennifer Helinek (@InsertLitPun) March 11, 2018

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    a 150+ page draft report

    A lot of trees murdered for 150 pages of variations on one sentence.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I want the minority report released as well.

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    germy says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Saw footage from the rally where drumpf started complaining about the press. A young lady in the crowd behind him raised her hand, and CBS News blurred it. She was giving the camera the finger.

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    MJS says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Sober? No. But I am not always sober.

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    debbie says:

    @germy:

    Clearly crisis actors.

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    piratedan says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: assume that these are the same House Intel Republicans headed by Devin Nunes, true?

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    germy says:

    @debbie: Well, they’ve got their crisis.

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    debbie says:

    @Yutsano:

    With no redactions, please.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @piratedan: Yup, Conaway is announcing it in respect for Devin’s ersatz recusal

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    Redshift says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    Breaking: “House Republicans say they found no evidence of collusion”

    I guess it’s harder to see from the inside…

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Old School:

    Is what I’m supposed to see about the signs at the rally that they are Trump signs rather than Saccone?

    I think so. It’s a Trump rally rather than a Saccone rally. That’s what Trump’s speech was like, too.

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    germy says:

    He is a troll

    Friday Quiz- Who is a purveyor of Russian Propaganda in the USA?

    A. NYT

    B. WaPo

    C. Facebook

    D. DNC/Clinton Campaign

    or E. ALL THE ABOVE…. Read this for the answer…

    Happy Friday! https://t.co/ImaHATFy47— Devin Nunes (@DevinNunes) March 9, 2018

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    Roger Moore says:

    @hellslittlestangel:

    The coming wave will expose the soft, white underbelly of gerrymandering. If you’ve carved out a bunch of 51% Republican districts, you’d better run perfect campaigns with maximum turnout, and that’s unlikely to happen in 2018.

    They haven’t carved out 51% districts. Everyone knows that’s a mistake. But they have carved out 55% and 60% districts, which you would normally expect to be safe. The problem is there’s the potential for a lot of close losses in those districts if there’s a big enough wave.

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    JR says:

    Cancelling the Post Gazette as we speak.

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    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice says:

    @germy: That’s delicious. Go Mom! I hope her whole knitting group book club revolutionary cell germ-warfare lab does the same.

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    HinTN says:

    @🌷 Martin: Actually, my take was, “We know this guy’s a loser but he won’t be around very long.”

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    Van Buren says:

    @TenguPhule: It will be instructive to see how different the Odell Beckham Jr. tape and the Trump tape are treated by our betters.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Republicans clear selves in treason investigation.” :)

    ETA: I’m SUPER curious as to Schiff’s response to this nonsense, given that he’s already said that the committee has seen some evidence of collusion. I mean, realistically this is just Republicans ignoring their oaths and completely abandoning their country for the good of their party, but it’d be nice if the ranking Democrat on the committee pointed that out.

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    George Spiggott says:

    @Roger Moore:

    And some have changed since the last redistricting so that they are no longer 55%-60%.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Corner Stone: as “do-ing” or as “DOING!”

    Because I read it as the latter and I’m still laughing

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Romney won this stronghold district by 17 pts and Drumpf won by 20 pt but hacks like Josh Kraushaar are desperately trying to say it’s really a swing district.

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    glory b says:

    State Repubs called it a “Democrat” district today.

    Their internal polling must really suck.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @TenguPhule: oh, fuck – i am laughing way too hard at this. I know it’s wrong, but it feels so right…!

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    J R in WV says:

    @geg6:

    It’s no longer a real paper. Some wingnut bunch in Ohio bought it. We have no real paper anymore.

    You’re close. Ogden-Nutting, they owned the Wheeling WV paper since forever, lots of smaller papers, are RWNJ loons. Oddly, they also own Mother Earth News… go figure.

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