I could watch this on continuous loop, forever:
Trump name chiseled off the Trump International Hotel in Panama after weeks of tensions over control of the property. https://t.co/KQuDrUckyr pic.twitter.com/Ph6xlHgwBr
— ABC News (@ABC) March 5, 2018
It’s just so satisfying, watching that dude pry T-R-U-M-P off that wall. May it portend Great Removals to come. Open thread.
piratedan
now onto the same process for our national psyche….
Ruckus
Don’t you like it when you see someone who seems to be enjoying their work?
Especially when it’s such a positive process that they are doing.
SiubhanDuinne
All you really need is the last letter. I mean, everybody’s been wishing for the “P” tape.
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What?
Yutsano
Aren’t properties all over the world looking to dump his name? For example: renaming the hotel group his kids own.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
This was a delightful pick-me-up.
MomSense
I haven’t been able to knit much for over a week and I don’t like it. I have always joked that it was either knitting or therapy but now it’s not so funny.
Corner Stone
@piratedan: Think of the business opportunities. “Garcon! I’ll have a chisel at table five, please.”
HypersphericalCow
Good. Now get to work on that damn eyesore on the Chicago trump tower.
Corner Stone
One can only hope they captured all the documents proving Ivanka knew about money laundering there before it was all shredded.
oatler.
Let his name be stricken from the monuments; so let it be written, so let it be done.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Russia and money laundering, funny how those words keep popping up
Exemplary of the grandeur in which…. The pride of Penn, ladies and gentlemen.
Mnemosyne
Last night’s Jet Ski gag at the Oscars wasn’t really a gag — the guy does get to keep it. Costume designer from Phantom Thread.
He also got to meet Helen Mirren, which he almost seems more excited about.
jl
So, when do we invade Panama? Or, are just going to nuke them? Or, billion percent increase in banana and coffee imports?
Edit: Kushner will try to get up a war between Panama and Costa Rica, more likely. And looks like Panama’s major export is final processing of pharmaceuticals and similar products.
Mnemosyne
@HypersphericalCow:
How is the campaign going to block it with Pink Floyd-style flying pig balloons? Last I heard, Roger Waters was all in and had given his permission, but the city was nervous about it causing traffic issues.
NotMax
In today’s episode of A Schlockwork Orange…
Jeffro
@piratedan: all very simple once Trumpov and his campaign have been indicted,convicted, and removed for working with a hostile foreign power to undermine the United States, either call a new election or the Supremes award the 45th presidency to Hillary. Dolt45 stays in the history books, but only as “Dolt”
(Also as “inmate 2748495”)
Not likely but nonzero at this point, either
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Nurnberg is bringing his rolling breakdown live to Ari Melber’s show
ETA: “I think they’re trying to build a case against Roger…”, i.e. Stone, his mentor whom he emails 15 times a day. “I’m not gonna do it.” IANAL: Did he just brag about obstruction of justice on national TeeVee?
Yutsano
@oatler.: I am all about committing some damnatio memoriae here.
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: He looks sober.
rikyrah
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
????
MomSense
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Did he just sort of say that Roger is family and he doesn’t want to harm him?
Baud
I wonder if Carter Page feels he needs to up his game now.
jl
@Jeffro: The way things are going, will have to go very far down into line of succession.
I don’t know how that works in Trumpster era. Maybe after everyone else is in jail, Putin or some Saudi Prince are eventually next in line? Melania? The bag man for Manafort’s dirty Turkish money? Who knows who will be ruling us peasants in a few months?
MomSense
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yes, yes I think he did.
Baud
SHUT YOUR MOUTH, SARAH!
Quinerly
Nunberg babbling about being offered immunity. Also, says he is warning SHS to shut her mouth.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
HE”S WARNING (!) JETHRENE THAT SHE”D BETTER SHUT HER MOUTH!
it’s like he’s jealous of Chris Hayes’ fraternal concern for Carter Page, and he’s trying to make Ari Melber his TV friend and lawyer
Baud
DONALD TRUMP IS STUPID!
jacy
I think he just accused Roger Stone of perjury.
He just threatened The Possum Queen.
I think he’s drunk. Honestly.
Yarrow
Oh, those Great Removals are on the way. Tick tock, motherfuckers. Cannot wait.
It has been a crazy day. Among other things, found out that a doctor who plays a key role in the care of one of my family members died suddenly. We’re now scrambling to figure out what to do. I know some other people who also see this doctor so we’ve been texting and everyone is so shocked. You don’t really think about the doctors you depend on just dying suddenly.
Mnemosyne
@Jeffro:
I know that (some) lawyers keep claiming that there’s absolutely no recourse if we find out that Russia changed people’s votes, but that seems to fall into the Constitution is not a suicide pact territory. I find it hard to believe that the Founding Fathers would say, Well, we never explicitly said that politicians couldn’t conspire with a hostile foreign power to fix the election, so tough shit, you guys are stuck with him.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: lol!
jacy
How do you think Ari Melber is going to get him off the set? Or will he just let him babble for the whole hour?
MomSense
@Mnemosyne:
The founders didn’t envision such widespread traitorous behavior.
Baud
@jacy:
Ari knows he has gold. Nunberg isn’t going anywhere.
MomSense
Holy shit balls. This guy is on a tear. Roger Stone must be regretting his loyalty right about now.
Jack the Second
Did the letters seem flimsy and cheap to anyone else? The one letter he ended up just pulling off without using the hammer and crowbar to loosen it first.
Baud
I never thought I’d say this, but I hope Trump is watching TV right now.
MomSense
@Baud:
I cannot turn away from this multi car pile up! This is incredible.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
They expected the three branches of government to check and balance each other. The fact that a single political party has suborned the whole damn government plus our free press is something they never contemplated.
But that doesn’t mean the Founders would think we should sit around and shrug our shoulders because The Law Is The Law.
Quinerly
Nunberg despises Cory L. Wants “to find him in an alley.” In related news, Poco and I are binge watching MSNBC after being without cable for 6 weeks. We may need an intervention.
Sm*t Cl*de
@MomSense:
IKR? It’s not as if they were aware of precedents.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@MomSense: again, IANAL, but it really sounds to my layman’s ears like he’s digging himself and Stone into deeper legal holes with every other sentence
jacy
Good gravy. I’ve gotten absolutely no work done this afternoon. It’s like watching a train wreck. Full of radioactive zombies.
MomSense
@Mnemosyne:
They thought the electoral college would be a fail safe but didn’t imagine that they would be partisan hacks incapable of loyalty to country over party.
Yarrow
Wow, thanks for the heads up. I turned to MSNBC. This is crazy stuff. Why’s he so loyal to Roger? What does Roger Stone have on him?
Jeffro
@jl: you don’t have to go down the line of succession – if the Republican ticket one because of the actions of a hostile foreign power then that ticket has no claim to power no matter how far down the line of succession you go . The November 2016 election would be invalidated and either a new election called for or the presidency would be awarded to the other candidate (and remember this is the will of the majority of American voters )
It would be earth shattering but then again so was Bush V Gore
? Martin
@Jeffro: The more rational plan would be to win the House for the Dems, navigate through the leadership battle, and after removing Trump and Pence, the Dem speaker would become president. All nice and tidy.
Jeffro
@Mnemosyne: 65 million American voters would have standing to bring a case before the Supreme Court and they would be right
Baud
Hillary’s policy speeches were really boring.
Sm*t Cl*de
@jacy:
I saw that movie.
Yutsano
@Mnemosyne: They would have been aghast at the failure of the Electoral College to stop Dolt45. The whole reason the system is there is exactly because they didn’t trust direct presidential election, and the College is supposed to be a check on that. Instead it’s turned into a rubber stamp party for the college winner. It’s a farce that needs to go into the dustbin of history.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
In a weird coincidence (for us Hamilmaniacs), Jefferson’s famous letter along those lines was partially in response to Aaron Burr (allegedly) trying to set himself up as emperor in the newly acquired Louisiana Territory. (Burr was acquitted of the charges in court, however.)
Yarrow
@Baud: Al Gore wore earth tones.
debbie
Apparently, there’s a whole menu of Nunberg stupid statements.
NotMax
@jl
There’s always whomsoever is the U.S. equivalent of Mrs. Ethel Shroke.
:)
MomSense
@Quinerly:
It’s impossible to resist. I’m just going to pour an adult beverage and enjoy.
JPL
@Baud: Which is why MSM ignored them.
Baud
@Yarrow: Your tick tock must be on overdrive right now.
jacy
@MomSense:
Now he’s invited Nunberg to join the panel. I think I should be drinking too, and just write the rest of the day off…..
Jeffro
@? Martin: that is the quicker route to be sure
Also lessons the chance that the right wingers go full on ape shit when Trumpov goes to jail and Hillary becomes president. But I no longer worry about their feelings or trying to calculate an outcome. I just want to see them all face justice
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: We live in interesting times, thanks to the Beltway Punditubbies, who still worship at the altar of both-sides and play for the R team.
Baud
Ted Cruz?
Yarrow
Why is this Nunberg guy so loyal to Roger Stone? What does Roger have on him?
Jeffro
@Yutsano: i’d like to second this motion
MomSense
@jacy:
Do it. This shit is too good to let pass.
Amir Khalid
@Baud:
I AGREE!
(Why are we shouting?)
JPL
@jacy: The only other choice would be to have security remove him, cuz he’s not going anywhere.
Yarrow
@Baud: My tick tock is thinking that pretty soon it’ll be time to sit back and light up a fat one. It’s all happening now.
Baud
@Amir Khalid:
Quoting Nunberg.
MomSense
@Mnemosyne:
I have such conflicted feelings about TJ.
cope
Wish I had been there, I would have offered him $100 for one of the letters.
Baud
It’s like a media intervention trying to get this guy off the ledge.
debbie
Just watched the video up top. The letters sound like cheap aluminum when they drop to the ground. Trump must have bought some cheap overseas shit. MAGA Not!
sukabi
@jacy: haven’t been watching it, but it sounds like he’s having a breakdown…he’s either going to call up Mueller and start singing….or eat a bullet as a chaser to his tv tour…
Baud
For some reason, I’m not feeling that much sympathy for how Roger Stone was treated.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Baud: If Clinton were president, the news would be really boring right now.
JPL
Are Sam’s eyes a tad bloodshot? I’m streaming and can’t get a clear look.
Yarrow
@Baud: It really is! This guy is nuts. Maybe he’s involved in the sex stuff with Roger Stone. This level of loyalty is astounding.
NotMax
Misjudgment at Nunberg?
Fudgement at Nunberg?
jacy
@sukabi:
They’ve gone 26 minutes with no commercial break. They’re going to have to get a net to drag this guy off.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Nah. There’d be plenty of fake clouds and shadows to manipulate us with.
Yarrow
@JPL: He just said he thinks his lawyer may have dropped him and his dad doesn’t think it’s a good idea that he’s doing this. It’s nuts. It’s like they’re all explaining how life works to him.
Quinerly
@Yarrow: And Nunberg has a law degree.
Gin & Tonic
Missing the show, so thanks to the liveblogging, all. Just what did this guy Nunberg do in the campaign, I mean, besides getting the occasional coffee?
ETA: I can’t imagine loyalty to Roger Stone is ever reciprocated.
Corner Stone
This.Is.Fucking.Nuts.
MomSense
@JPL:
I don’t think so. This seems to be chem free!
debbie
@Yarrow:
Wow. There have to be drugs involved.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
I know. So many great ideas that he had no intention of following through on. ?
MomSense
@Gin & Tonic:
He works with Stone. Who is family, mentor, and father figure.
lgerard
I think Mueller should hire this Orestes Fintiklis guy
He gets things done!
patrick II
Al Franken is a favorite of mine, and according to some Roger Stone played a major role in preparing LeAnn Tweeden for her accusation against Franken. Among many other things I hope they find in the Nunberg/Stone emails is evidence of that. And when I think of all of the dirty tricks Stone has pulled, of course Russia being at the top of the list, it would be enlightening to see in how many ways how the top Republican rtfcker corrupted the democratic process and who else was involved.
Fair Economist
@Baud:
Like a metronome on “Prestissimo”!
MomSense
@Mnemosyne:
Many, many years ago my dad was doing research for a book and found in church archives some letters he had written to a young minister. The archives were housed in a dank basement of an old church in Boston. The worst part is he was completely cognizant that slavery was wrong but he chose the fulfillment of his architectural dreams for Monticello over his conscience. So painful to read.
Ruckus
@Yarrow:
Had that happen to me around 40 yrs ago. My regular doc moved 300 miles away to set up practice and so one of his associates took over and he was fine at first, but I noticed over about a year he started to look rather not well. And then he died. He was in his mid to late 30s. I never did find out what happened, no one at the office would talk about it. I’ve had my suspicions from the way he began to look but am not going there.
Quinerly
@Gin & Tonic: He listened to 1000s of hrs of RW talk radio and came up with Trump’s campaign message…White grievance. He has taken credit for the “Build the Wall” messaging.
Jager
Every time I see the picture of Mueller walking by the construction area, I think to myself, he’s having holding cells the size of drunk tanks built.
sukabi
@jacy: just turned on Ari Mebler…Nunberg’s got a huge case of the rules don’t apply to me….
Guy was given immunity…I’ll bet he doesn’t have it any more.
SiubhanDuinne
@jacy:
…and all the way through Tweety and Chris and Rachel and Lawrence and five minutes into The Eleventh Hour until BriWi realizes he can’t put up with the competition and has Nunberg forcibly removed.
Brachiator
@? Martin:
Trump and Pence are not going to be removed. But in case justice magically broke out in this country and the Republicans decided that they wanted to make amends, Hillary could be made speaker of the House, and then Trump and Pence removed. And then, because of this little provision:
Hillary could become president even if the GOP retained a majority in the House.
But again, not gonna happen.
Yarrow
@Ruckus: Thanks. Just saw this doctor less than a month ago and there were no signs whatsoever. Everyone is so shocked. We’re now going to have to scramble to get another doctor to keep prescriptions going. And it’s always hard to find a doctor that you click with. Sigh.
afanasia
@debbie: Or no drugs, as in “he went off his meds.” Delightful as this is, i hope he gets some medical attention – or an intervention – pretty quickly.
Doug R
@Jack the Second:
The “P” was hardest to get off, of course.
different-church-lady
@Yutsano:
“Wait… you let every citizen vote now? You IDIOTS!”
efgoldman
@Yarrow:
Whew, Glad you’re back. It was damned hard work doing your job and mine.
Ruckus
@Yarrow:
How’s that go in the movie, “Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”
We never know what tomorrow brings. We plan for it to be what we want, hopefully we are prepared enough to roll with what does happen not to plan, but we just don’t know what it will be. And yet you can’t live with your head in the sand, you will get your upturned butt kicked repeatedly.
Aleta
If only the light artist would change the first two letters on the DC one to D.
different-church-lady
@Yarrow: Video of Nunberg begins at 48 seconds.
efgoldman
@Amir Khalid:
Obvious. You’re VERY far away.
efgoldman
@Gin & Tonic:
Just what every campaign needs: A guy to post racist social media.
He was the sacrificial lamb, back when the campaign pretended to care about that shit.
PaulWartenberg
where’s the LIKE button?
(clicks it 10000000000000000000000 times)
Kay
That IS nice. Thank you Betty.
I don’t even want to know what happened. Some gross dispute where they refused to pay someone, right?
SiubhanDuinne
I had to give up my phone for half an hour to recharge the battery.
So, is anything happening? Is Nunberg still on TV? Has he said anything new?
Might
Sam
Nunberg
Be
CRAZY???
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I wonder if he is having some sort of manic episode or some kind of breakdown.
Tehanu
How appropriate is it that they chiseled it off, when you know it got built in the first place by a chiseler?
JR
@Mnemosyne: Considering that it took all of one presidency for John Adams to invoke foreign meddling with the Alien and Sedition acts…
Also in the era of the Founding Fathers, the threat of foreign (European) influence was considerably greater than it is even today.
Sonoran
Good grief…Is that a golden crowbar? Even the tools are tacky at tRumpov’s properties.
Riveting tv but I don’t think Nunberg’s privileged white guy routine is going to work. Bet he changes his story once he sobers up. Only an idiot would go to prison for Roger Stone for FSM’s sake!