Trump Crime Cartel Open Thread: “Nice Little Kingdom Ya Got There…”

… Shame if anything were to — happen — to it… “

As part of the scrutiny of Kushner’s discussions with Turks, federal investigators have reached out to Turkish nationals for information on Kushner through the FBI’s legal attache office in Ankara, according to two people familiar with the matter. Separately, Qatari government officials visiting the U.S. in late January and early February considered turning over to Mueller what they believe is evidence of efforts by their country’s Persian Gulf neighbors in coordination with Kushner to hurt their country, four people familiar with the matter said. The Qatari officials decided against cooperating with Mueller for now out of fear it would further strain the country’s relations with the White House, these people said.

Kushner’s family real estate business, Kushner Companies, approached Qatar multiple times, including last spring, about investing in the company’s troubled flagship property at 666 Fifth Avenue in New York, but the government-run sovereign wealth fund declined, according to two people familiar with the discussion. Another discussion of interest to Mueller’s team is a meeting Kushner held at Trump Tower during the transition in December 2016 with a former prime minister of Qatar, Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani, or HBJ, according to people familiar with the meeting.

HBJ had been in talks with Kushner Companies about investing in its Fifth Avenue property, which is facing roughly $1.4 billion in debt that is due in 2019, these people said. Those talks with the company continued after Kushner entered the White House and stepped away from the business, but last spring HBJ decided against investing, these people said.

In the weeks after Kushner Companies’ talks with the Qatari government and HBJ collapsed, the White House strongly backed an economically punishing blockade against Qatar, led by Saudi Arabia and the UAE, citing the country’s support for terrorism as the impetus. Kushner, who is both President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a key adviser, has played a major role in Trump’s Middle East policy and has developed close relationships with the crown princes of Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

Some top Qatari government officials believe the White House’s position on the blockade may have been a form of retaliation driven by Kushner who was sour about the failed deal, according to multiple people familiar with the matter. Saudi Arabia and UAE have long had a rivalry with Qatar.

The White House, Saudi Arabia and the UAE have said the blockade against Qatar is in retaliation for their government’s support for terrorism.

Any cooperation with Mueller’s probe from foreign nationals or government officials would mark a significant new dimension to the investigation beyond what is currently publicly known…

The only thing dumber than trying to strongarm the Qataris for your two-bit real estate deals is assuming the Qataris weren’t sophisticated enough to let it be known in the right places that you’d tried. These are not a bunch of struggling three-building developers or angry tenants you’re trying to evict, ya dumb goniff.

These people aren’t just an international disgrace, they’re a fvcking embarrassment to the rest of us.

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  1. 1
    Corner Stone says:

    All the knives are out for Jar Jar. IC, both domestic and foreign, plus all the WH staff that hate his fucking guts.

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    The Dangerman says:

    More Trump dishonesty:

    Shocking (Not)

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    Corner Stone says:

    Qatar smelled the dirt on this deal from a long way away. They probably considered it but in the end it was just too fucking obvious for everyone not to notice. When Qatar and AnBang won’t grift with you, the game is pretty much almost over.

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    @Corner Stone: Anyone that thoroughly hated worked at earning it.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Corner Stone: What a shame, innit?

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    Last night, I saw this promo for a new episode of S.W.A.T. White balding captain talks about how L.A. is a sanctuary city; says that now they’re making us (police) picking sides. Cut to a cop body slaming a pro-immigaration protestor on the ground. Art imitating life?

    I didn’t watch the episode, but I doubt it was much better than that. Mainstream network shows are usually terrible at being topical. See L&O: SVU.

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    debbie says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):

    No, I’d bet it was his outsized sense of entitlement.

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    debbie says:

    According to Fox News 24, McMaster has resigned. Other sites say not, but I’m horrified by the suggested replacements in this article. Bolton of course is an asshole, but the other two names are a Ford VP and Oracle CEO. Corporate types For National Security???

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Reposting this from downstairs, just because it’s a fresh open thread and I may have a better shot at useful advice:

    Tech question for the BJ hive mind:

    Over the past couple of weeks, the glass touch screen on my iPhone became detached and started pushing up. Took the device in on Wednesday and the nice folks at UBreakItWeFixIt determined that the (factory original) battery was bulging and forcing the glass up and away from its seating. I touched the old battery, and indeed it was soft and swollen and clearly unhealthy. Several hours and $50 later, I had my iPhone back with a brand-new battery.

    But here’s the thing: with this new battery, the charge drains almost before my eyes. Just this evening, I’ve tracked it:

    5:15 pm 100%
    5:30 pm 80%
    5:45 pm 65%
    6:05 pm 50%
    6:15 pm 45%
    6:30 pm 40%

    In the past 75 minutes it’s lost 60% of battery power. I haven’t drained it with graphic- or media-heavy apps; have merely been reading Facebook and a couple of blogs, and typed a few comments. No games, no videos or anything like that.

    This seems wrong to me. I’ll take it back tomorrow or Monday to the store that replaced the old battery, but any suggestions in the meantime?

    (Yes, Bluetooth is turned off. Yes, screen backlight is minimal. Yes, I routinely close all the windows I’m not using.)

    Thanks! I know there’s some good advice out there!

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @debbie:
    Why has McMaster resigned? Was it planned?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @debbie: That simply cannot be. Sarah Sanders just said that McMaster was not going anywhere.

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    Mary G says:

    From John’s Twitter feed, the Duffelblog story is so sad:

    KABUL — A Command Sergeant Major serving in Kabul who reportedly said he’d fight the war “so his son wouldn’t have to” in 2001 sort of feels like an asshole right now, after his son joined the Army a year ago and serves with a unit just a few miles away, sources confirmed today.

    “When I said that, I thought we were going to, you know, come in, bomb the shit out of them, shoot a few guys, and split,” said Sgt. Maj. Ted Stevens while noting previous U.S. engagements without a prolonged troop presence such as Vietnam and Korea.

    Brad Stevens, a private first class now serving with 2nd Infantry Division, barely remembers the events of Sept. 11, when he was just seven years old.

    “I remember my mom and dad just staring at the television screen, and smoke, but I didn’t really know what he meant when he said we needed to ‘bomb them back to the stone age,’” Brad told reporters.

    On that day, sources confirmed then-Sgt. Ted Stevens said he would fight this war against terrorists so that “you wouldn’t have to” as he pointed to his young son.

    “It’s silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the mountains of Afghanistan when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas,” Stevens later told a reporter, shortly after landing on the ground in Afghanistan in October 2001.

    What a waste we have made of so many good Americans over there. Bring them all home and let the Middle East sort itself out.

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    I just noticed somebody’s car at work has a Sig logo sticker and an NRA sticker on it. I’ll have to look at the parking nametag on it next week so I know who to avoid.

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    JustRuss says:

    Since this thread be open, here’s something that set off my Everything’s Horrible! alarm:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/03/02/medicare-certified-surgery-centers-safety-deaths/363172002/

    Cutting those healthcare costs! MAGA!

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    debbie says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    ‘Cause he doesn’t want to be the last guy out of the room?

    There’s been talk about this for a while. I think it started when McMaster said (at the Munich Security Conference, Google tells me) there was “incontrovertible” evidence that Russia had meddled in the election. You-know-who hates that kind of talk.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @debbie: The Ford VP used to work for Condoleeza Rice in the early ’00s, and was also on the National Security Council. So he’s not quite as bad a fit as you’d think.

    I’m really surprised, though – all the reporting had McMaster going out in a month or two, not RIGHTNOWOHMYGOD. Things must be even worse over there than we thought, and we all have a pretty low opinion of the place.

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    dr. bloor says:

    Doesn’t matter what you own in Manhattan. If you’re a bridge-and-tunnel developer, it’s in your DNA. Your smell.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    Jared is going to prison. Ivanka will be lucky to not be in a facility as well.

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    Citizen_X says:

    @Mary G: You know the Duffelblog is a satirical site, right? Like a military Onion.

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    PPCLI says:

    They may be con men, but they’re sure not con artists.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: You probably need to take the new battery in to get it replaced, but sometimes you need to drain the thing completely first (or the battery life indicator might be wrong).

    I’d let it run dry and record how long it takes until the phone actually shuts down, then recharge it to full and try again.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    Just read that the W. Virginia teachers will get a 5% raise.

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    VeniceRiley says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s not a apple battery, is it? You need to go to Apple Store or online for your fix.And go get your 50 bucks back.

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    Barbara says:

    He has to leave. He is like an unguided missile.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    When Kushner threatens someone with his whiny little-boy voice, it must be difficult for his intended victim to keep from laughing.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    @🌷 Martin: His dad should make an endowment to one of the nicer Club Feds.

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    PPCLI says:

    @Mary G: Duffelbag is like a military version of the Onion.

    ETA: Ah, I see someone already took care of it.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    Well, think I’m outta here for the night. Philly escaped most of the snow, but what we did get came with high winds and the power went out for good an hour ago. So I think I’ll conserve battery on the phone & laptop for now.

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    EBT says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: My first question would be capacity of the old battery versus the replacement battery.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @MisterForkbeard:
    I speculated on a thread the other night that the Executive Office is going to organizationally collapse pretty soon.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷: Devil is in the details. Are they still asking the teachers to cover their health insurance, because the 20% of their pay that would go isn’t even remotely covered by the 5% pay increase. That’s why you haven’t seen this strike end.

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    🌷 Martin says:

    @hellslittlestangel: Maybe his dad can request that Jared get his old cell.

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    Aleta says:

    Old Time Song (Kushner’s Lament)

    You never give me your money, you only give me your funny paper
    And in the middle of negotiations, you break down
    I never give you my number, I only give you my situation
    And in the middle of investigation, I break down

    Out of college, money spent,
    see no future, pay no rent
    All the money’s gone, nowhere to go

    But oh, that magic feeling, nowhere to go
    One sweet dream
    Pick up the bags and get in the limousine
    Soon we’ll be away from here.

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    danielx says:

    @debbie:

    McMaster was at some point an honorable man. Conceivably he has decided to leave while there’s still some faint hope of getting the psychic stench off.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: How dare you?! What could possibly be more important than staying on top of BJ threads!

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    Uncle Omar says:

    @Major Major Major Major: At least now a crook in need of a piece will know which car to break into.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷: Yeah. I’m not really sure what that MEANS in a practical sense anyway. They’re already incredibly incompetent and haven’t figured out how to not cause international incidents or… jesus, how to actually roll out a tariff and be able to answer questions on it.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @danielx: Way too late after that press conference he gave. All in for Trump.

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    Ajabu says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Had a batter problem with my iphone last year. Would go from 100% to zip in about three hours.
    Replaced the battery and no more problem.
    Your new battery is defective. They should replace it gratis.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @🌷 Martin:
    I just read the headline. It clearly said that they were returning “this Thursday”. The paper was dated the 28th of Feb. So it might be outdated.

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    Baud says:

    Kevin Drum

    James Bennet is the editorial page editor of the New York Times. He started a couple of years ago, and immediately decided the op-ed page needed more intellectual diversity. One of his first hires was Bret Stephens from the Wall Street Journal, followed by a couple of other conservatives—which sent certain precincts of the left into a tizzy. He also hired some new liberals, but so far all his new writers have been center-left and center-right kinds of people. Andrew Sullivan thinks he should go further:

    In 2018, it seems to me you need to have someone who can represent the Bernie left.

    Let me preemptively say that the NYT is garbage.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @MisterForkbeard:
    It means Trump and his family are the only ones left in the WH.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Baud:

    which sent certain precincts of the left into a tizzy

    Kevin Drum is garbage for this dismissive sentence.

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    danielx says:

    @Baud:

    The Bernie left can go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

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    Baud says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷: I like him, but you are correct.

    ETA: Drum’s post mostly says that the Bernie left can’t write.

    “The problem is that most of them are unreadable. This is something that struck me decades ago, long before I started blogging. In fact, I eventually grew to suspect that on the few occasions an op-ed page hired a far-lefty, they deliberately chose someone who would embarrass themselves and their movement.”

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    @Baud: @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷: perhaps we could instead use constructive language like “this sentence is garbage, Kevin Drum should not have written it”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    1) Go to settings and then battery. It’ll provide you with some diagnostics. If everything looks okay there, then

    2) Take it to the Apple store. I was at the one in my area last night. Took the Mom to get her a new iPad as we were trading in my old one for store $ towards the purchase. While there I asked them to check my iPhone 6’s battery to make sure I didn’t have one of the early obsolescence ones. They ran the diagnostics, took about five minutes total. Turns out I have a very, very good battery. But they’ll be able to handle it for you.

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    West of the Cascades says:

    is assuming the Qataris weren’t sophisticated enough to let it be known in the right places that you’d tried. These are not a bunch of struggling three-building developers or angry tenants you’re trying to evict, ya dumb goniff.

    Qatar bought the freaking 2022 World Cup from FIFA, ffs.

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    JMG says:

    @Baud: Andrew says: More white men please.

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    @Adam L Silverman:

    They ran the diagnostics, took about five minutes total. Turns out I have a very, very good battery.

    Isn’t that what trump said about his brain after passing his five-minute diagnostic test for dementia?

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷: I’m looking forward to hearing Barron discuss his plan for peace in the Middle East.

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    rikyrah says:

    Maddow’s tweet is hilarious

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: The Duffel Blog is a spoof/parody site. This is from the most recent post lists:

    MOST RECENT
    DUFFEL BLOG PRESENTS: President Donald Trump gives your weekend safety brief

    Uncle Mattis gives Jared Kushner ‘Super Duper Secret Clearance’ to stop him from crying

    Navy SEAL thrown off airplane, demoted to Navy SEL

    Trump awards self Medal of Honor for hypothetically saving everyone during school shooting

    Delta bars veteran from carrying on emotional support flamethrower

    That last one might have actually happened. I cannot comment further.

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    Baud says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The first one might have happened too.

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    @Baud: all but the Navy SEAL one are plausible now since we live in a bizarro hellscape

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    matt says:

    @Baud: I’m sure David Scrota would like the job.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: My battery was able to clearly identify the rhino and the ostrich!

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    Corner Stone says:

    If I never hear the words 666 5th Av again it will be too soon.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    Last night, I saw this promo for a new episode of S.W.A.T. White balding captain talks about how L.A. is a sanctuary city; says that now they’re making us (police) picking sides.

    Made by somebody pig ignorant. The decision to stop having the police ask people about their immigration status didn’t come from some bleeding-heart liberal. It came from Police Chief Darryl Fucking Gates, who A) didn’t want his officers wasting their time on INS’s job and B) realized it would make a lot of immigrants afraid to talk to the police. AFAIK, Special Order 40 (the directive not to ask people about their immigration status) is still widely popular among rank-and-file LAPD officers.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: @Adam L Silverman: One additional point: that’s a spoof article about SEAL Rob O’Neill. He’s in a long running dispute with his former teammates about who actually shot bin Laden. Of course he’s winning, because his teammates won’t go on the record because the operation is still classified. He’s also in trouble with the Navy Special Operations community and the DOD for writing a book without getting it properly vetted and cleared. For whatever reasons the only SEALS you ever hear about or whose names people know all turn out to be horrible people. Zinke who was run out of the community because he was mismanaging government money, including using it for trips home. Karl Higbee who just got fired from a Trump administration for being a racist and anti-Semite and homophobe and Islamophobe. It’s like the same thing that makes them assholes forces them to seek publicity.

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    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    Mainstream network shows are usually terrible at being topical. See L&O: SVU.

    Omg did you see the MMO one?

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    mike in dc says:

    @Baud: Can Duncan Black(Atrios) write longform pieces? I think he’d be okay. Erik Loomis at LGM is another lefty who is a good writer. Just avoid the HA Goodman/Walker Bragman types. Matt Bruenig, I would avoid. Chris Hayes could do a good job as well.

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    KithKanan says:

    @Mary G: (my bolding)

    “When I said that, I thought we were going to, you know, come in, bomb the shit out of them, shoot a few guys, and split,” said Sgt. Maj. Ted Stevens while noting previous U.S. engagements without a prolonged troop presence such as Vietnam and Korea.”

    @Adam L Silverman: Knowing that it’s a spoof makes it make a lot more sense. Thanks.

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    Spanky says:

    Been offline most of the day, although not because of the storm, mostly. How’s the podcast downstairs? I’ll have to dig out the earbuds to hear it.

    A WaPo headline that warms the cockles of my bitter heart:

    Roy Moore issues public plea for money: ‘My resources have been depleted’

    A WaPo headline that just makes me scream “FUCK YOUUUUUUU!”:

    Sen. Orrin Hatch apologizes for calling Obamacare supporters the ‘stupidest’ people

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Major Major Major Major: The SEAL story is a parody riff on Rob O’Neill. He got shitfaced coming out of CPAC and was rude, abusive, passed out, and then physically removed from his flight home.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Corner Stone: Most people would think twice about investing in a property with the street address of “666”, whether they were superstitious or not.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    MMO?
    I remember the one where an older teenager is obsessively attracted to his step-sister and didn’t want to do something awful to her and asked for the detectives’ help. They told him to fuck off, basically. He later killed himself. They got off scot-free. The thin-blue line!

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Baud:

    The NYT has plenty of people writing about how Hillary Clinton is the root of all evil. What else does the Bernie Left stand for?

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    debbie says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Even odder that the building is catty-corner from Saint Patrick’s Cathedral.

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    Doug R says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I just noticed somebody’s car at work has a Sig logo sticker and an NRA sticker on it. I’ll have to look at the parking nametag on it next week so I know who to avoid.

    Whoooo….one of the 1.5%, perhaps knuckle your head, a proper greetin’ for ‘is lordship.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Spanky:
    Why’d he apologize? He’s not running again.

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    Baud says:

    @Chyron HR:

    It’s important to hate Hillary from different angles.

    Who do they have besides Krugman that appeals to mainstream Dems?

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    Duane says:

    This group of trump miscreants certainly know no shame.
    Arkansas intends to drop 60,000 people from Medicaid, and impose work on thousands of others. MMS head Verma and Gov. Hutchinson will meet at the state capitol for the announcement.
    Forget shame, or trying to hide it. Now the evil scum feel empowered to celebrate their cruelty.

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    jl says:

    ” These people aren’t just an international disgrace, they’re a fvcking embarrassment to the rest of us. ”

    Also a dire threat. But then, the BS running up to the Iraq invasion was also a dire threat, but few seem to care.
    If we survive, the film version might be called ‘Beyond Beneath the Valley of the Hunger Games’.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    @Corner Stone: Lights just came back on. In the middle of the storm. With the winds still blowing. And I can’t begin to guess how many lines down.

    The work our power company emergency repair crews do is amazing.

    Good thing, too. We hadn’t yet descended into cannibalism, but I think the cat was starting to look at me funny.

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    Doug R says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    which sent certain precincts of the left into a tizzy

    Kevin Drum is garbage for this dismissive sentence.

    Them’s fightin’ words.

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    cain says:

    @Roger Moore: Apparently cops in Indiana do ask people with accents for their immigration status. Indiana has become a horrid place.

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    But her emails!!! says:

    @Chyron HR:

    The NYT has plenty of people writing about how Hillary Clinton is the root of all evil. What else does the Bernie Left stand for?

    Apparently the Russian national anthem.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Corner Stone:

    If I never hear the words 666 5th Av again it will be too soon.

    Even if it’s included in a sentence like “Kushner gets life sentence over 666 5th Av corruption”?

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    kdaug says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Turn off location. Huge drain.

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    J’ai toujours fait une prière à Dieu, qui est fort courte. La voici: Mon Dieu, rendez nos ennemis bien ridicules! Dieu m’a exaucé.

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    🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷 says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I vaguely remember hearing about it.

    These types of middle-America shows tend to be bad when it comes to technology in general.

    Check out this clip from NCIS:

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    Jay says:

    @But her emails!!!:

    You win all the Internets today.

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    Jeffro says:

    @debbie: hey – the quality of the hires is only going to go down from here

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    Roger Moore says:

    @cain:

    Apparently cops in Indiana do ask people with accents for their immigration status.

    If you tried that in LA, you wouldn’t have time to do anything else. Something like 40% of the population is foreign born.

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    Spanky says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    The Utah Republican characterized his remark, which he made in a speech about taxes at a conservative think tank, as a “poorly worded joke” that did not accurately reflect his feelings “towards my friends on the other side.”

    Wevs.

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    cain says:

    BTW, we had our Holi party at work. Good times. Food and beer were purchased and a bollymovie was put out and so forth. All had a good time. I love the fact, that when I called up the caterer, and I told him that everybody in the office really loved the food. He really wanted to know what I thought since I was the ethnic. :-) The food was good. Punjabis know how to bring it when it comes to cooking. In Portland, all the indian restaurants are run by South Indians cooking North Indian food. Meh.

    I was impressed and goddam the samosas are to die for.. I need ot figure out how to make that.. So good, as good as eating in India.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Corner Stone:

    All the knives are out for Jar Jar.

    I smiled. Broadly.

    Am quite sure that’s wrong of me.

    See if I care.

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    cain says:

    @Roger Moore:

    If you tried that in LA, you wouldn’t have time to do anything else. Something like 40% of the population is foreign born.

    I have never been asked for anything the whole time I was in Indiana. The state has gone to shit.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: our power was on and off earlier today and then around 4pm it went out for good

    Didn’t keep us from picking up Thai (for me and the missus) and Chinese (for mini-me) and chilling out in our cozy warm home. Meanwhile my daughter is out seeing BLACK PANTHER and will be home in a bit.

    So yeah, not really roughing it here…

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    Spanky says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Google Translate:

    I have always prayed to God, who is very short. Here it is: My God, make our enemies very ridiculous! God answered me.

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    kindness says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I got a replacement battery for my i-phone from Apple. $29. Holds a charge for a week again. You probably got an old used battery replacement. Go to Apple.

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    efgoldman says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    These types of middle-America shows tend to be bad when it comes to technology in general.

    Anyone who expects a one-hour TV drama (meaning 44 minutes, without commercials) to be historically, technologically, or sociologically accurate, deserves the brain rot they get.

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    Mary G says:

    @Citizen_X: @PPCLI: @Adam L Silverman: Yes, indeed I am an idiot. My point stands even without the story. We have no business still being in Afghanistan pretending to be trying to win an unwinnable war.

    I get emotional about vets because, though I have no biological siblings, my dad was an Episcopal priest in the 1960s here next to Camp Pendleton and almost every Marine who came to church was brought back to our house for lunch and a number of them became honorary big brothers of mine. All but one is already dead and he has suffered for almost 50 years with shrapnel in his shoulder that is too enmeshed with nerves and blood vessels to be removed safely.

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @Spanky: ROFL. Well, it got most of it right.

    The traditional translation is: I always made one prayer to God, a very short one. Here it is: “O Lord, make our enemies quite ridiculous!” God granted it.

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    Spanky says:

    Breaking news from The Onion:

    Nation Not Sure How Many Ex-Trump Staffers It Can Safely Reabsorb

    Also too:

    Kellyanne Conway: ‘I Always Liked Hope Hicks’ Skin, Her Unblemished Supple Skin, Pure, Tasty Skin’

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    Matt says:

    @cain:

    “Become” isn’t really the right word. State was openly run by the Klan in the 20s. https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/the-ku-klux-klan-ran-indiana-once-could-it-happen-again

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    Gravenstone says:

    I get the impression Kushner would gladly have tried the arson dodge on Antichrist Acres already, but he knows the insurance settlement wouldn’t begin to approach the debt service.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @efgoldman:

    Anyone who expects a one-hour TV drama (meaning 44 minutes, without commercials) to be historically, technologically, or sociologically accurate, deserves the brain rot they get.

    There’s still a range of awfulness that can result. There’s a big difference between starting with real technology and then simplifying and dumbing it down to meet the needs of the plot vs. making shit up because you think it sounds good. Your better writer will try to stick to the first, while bad writers will immediately jump to the second.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Gravenstone:

    I get the impression Kushner would gladly have tried the arson dodge on Antichrist Acres

    Much more difficult under current building codes. He’d have had to turn the alarms and sprinklers off, which is detectable

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Mary G: Duffleblog is a parody site.

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    Redshift says:

    @🌷 Martin:

    That’s why you haven’t seen this strike end.

    Unless there’s been a change since this morning, the reason the strike hasn’t ended is that there governor agreed to the 5% raise and the House passed it, but the state senate voted it down.

    Assholes.

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    I dug this out for someone on FB earlier tonight. Seems appropriate here, too.

    It’s Mueller Time.

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    Another Scott says:

    @EBT: Vlad’s Troll Farm got hacked and contents got dumped onto the Internet?? Unpossible.

    The GOP will ignore it, of course.

    (sigh)

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @EBT: Is that for real?

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    efgoldman says:

    @Roger Moore:

    There’s a big difference between starting with real technology and then simplifying and dumbing it down to meet the needs of the plot vs. making shit up

    Yeah. Shemar Moore’s previous series (Criminal Minds) they posit a new barely plausible criminal every week, and then at least partially use intellect and deduction to catch him. SWAT, (which I haven’t seen – from the promos), is a much more straightforward cop brawn+bravery show.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @efgoldman:

    Much more difficult under current building codes. He’d have had to turn the alarms and sprinklers off, which is detectable

    The obvious solution is a false flag terrorist attack. Jared gets his insurance money, and Trump gets his Reichstag Fire. They just need somebody capable of pulling it off.

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    Redshift says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    I speculated on a thread the other night that the Executive Office is going to organizationally collapse pretty soon.

    How would we notice the difference?

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    Sm*t Cl*de says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    My battery was able to clearly identify the rhino and the ostrich!

    Now I would like the battery to list all the names of animals it can think of, within a three-minute limit.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Roger Moore: In all fairness to the SWAT episode being discussed, I am about halfway through and they made that perfectly clear. SPOILER (not that anyone will care.) Also, the newish young SWAT officer who didn’t understand the implications of handing ICE the wallet of the guy who turns out to be undocumented comes to understand what he had done and before the end of the episode they work to do everything they can to get the fellow in ICE custody released. There is back-and-forth between the SWAT officers that I see as an attempt to air both sides of the argument, which could be considered educational or it could be annoying.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Even if it is real and not some kind of Hoekstroika, I am not sure what difference it makes?

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    efgoldman says:

    @WaterGirl:

    which could be considered education or it could be annoying.

    Or both

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @Corner Stone: Whether I break out the schadenfreude pie. Very important to save it for appropriate moments.

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    divF says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:
    I just got up to the lobby in my hotel room (near Dulles). The refugees from downed power lines are all over the place.

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    burnspbesq says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    You really are fucking stupid. The problem is not Drum. The problem is Ahhhhh-ndrew’s statement that the Wilmerites are in ascendancy within the party. If Wilmerites get a voice in the direction of the party, we lose women and people of color, and get four more years of Trump. Fuck that.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @divF: Stand Your Ground!

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    MomSense says:

    @burnspbesq:

    If Wilmerites are in ascendancy, we lose people with brains.

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    Ken says:

    @Mike in NC:

    Most people would think twice about investing in a property with the street address of “666”

    Most people would think twice about investing in a property that had been bought for roughly twice the market rate and was carrying an unsustainable debt load.

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    divF says:

    @Corner Stone:
    Actually everyone is politely standing in line, waiting their turn to check in. I was there in line with them, because I had left my key in my room.

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    Baud says:

    @divF: Is Virginia sending us their best?

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Roger Moore: Pretty sure Kush knows Eric Prince …

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: I don’t think you’re an idiot. That piece was written in a way that you couldn’t tell they were spoofing.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Matt: Mother approved!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Another Scott: It may not be a hack. May be a deliberate spill.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @MomSense: Wilmerites are in ascending volume, and people like Stephens and Sully want to be able to say “See? Extremists on both sides!”, though as much as I despise Wilmer, his weaponized sanctimony, and the litmus tests he and his followers want to impose on the Dems, even I’m at a loss to see how single payer health care and codified racism are mirror images of each other.

    as to the NYT, I will say that Michelle Goldberg is probably their best hire since Krugman.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: It happened. What we don’t know, despite the excellent reporting, is if this was a legit hack or if this was a deliberate spill by Russia’s Intelligence Services containing legit information, thoroughly fabricated information, and information that is a combination of the two.

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    Jeffro says:

    I think it is hysterical the way my RWNJ dad and brother continue to say dumb things like “let it play out” when I send them actual non-Fox news about stuff like this.

    as in, they are waiting until Trump and Kushner and all of them are actually convicted before drawing any sort of intelligent conclusions about what’s going on here.

    Yes… it is so very hard to see where all of this is going … truly these could be the actions of innocent people truly these could be the actions of innocent people …

    😡

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: Especially because the FBI’s behavioral profiling, which is what the show is supposed to be based on, is, at best, pseudo-(social and behavioral) science.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/11/12/dangerous-minds

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    Corner Stone says:

    @divF: You’re not fooling anyone. You’re hanging around down by check-in so if someone gets turned down for a room you can give them a little wink wink nudge nudge. Then a little mini-bar action and…who knows?

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    divF says:

    @Baud: I think so, see the comment about yours. However, there is always the possibility of rioting if the hotel announces that they are booked up.

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    Spanky says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Door Number 3, Alex Adam.

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    danielx says:

    @cain:

    Parts have always been horrible places. It’s kind of like Georgia that way, a few islands of civilization and sanity in a sea of redneck assholes. Speaking as a more or less lifetime resident….

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    Gravenstone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, my first thought was how likely would it be for a group that specializes in social engineering to obtain illicit information to themselves fall victim to adversarial social engineering?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Spanky:
    Google Translate is not too clever, A human would know that the relative pronoun required is “which”, because the antecedent “prayer” is not a person; but GT had to guess, and it guessed wrong.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    the FBI’s behavioral profiling, which is what the show is supposed to be based on, is, at best, pseudo

    As ads for The Exorcist used to say: “It’s only a movie”

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    Citizen Alan says:

    @Mike in NC:

    I’m still amazed that the idiots who insisted Obama with the Antichrist are completely disinterested in his successors connection to a place with that address.

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    RobertDSC-Mac Mini says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Erik Prince is another former SEAL who is as horrible as they come.

    I kind of wonder why Jared hasn’t got the Orange Atrocity to have the US Gov’t invest in his building for office space or some scam like that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Spanky: So I won the dishwasher?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I liked the show for a while. Haven’t watched the last several seasons. Despite my professional understanding of the flaws with the premise.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @RobertDSC-Mac Mini: It is what it is. And what it seems to be is that you only evr seem to hear about/from the worst members of that community.

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    James E. Powell says:

    @🌎 🇺🇸 Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) 🗳 🌷:

    Maggie Haberman will assure us that all the reasons we think he resigned are wrong, just wrong.

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    Tenar Arha says:

    @Spanky: Yep. A Massachusetts reply to Hatch would be “faaaahhhk yoooo” 😉

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @Spanky: Google translate is not what I’d call really reliable. In fact, it can be downright annoying. I tried it a couple of times to refine things I wanted to say in French. What it produced was more awkward than anything I would have said.

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @kindness: I have learned my lesson and only go to Apple with my Apple products. I took my iPad to Best Buy because it was close by. It was having some weird battery troubles. No good. I took it to Apple the next day. They cast some spell over ot & voilà. Everything back to normal & they didn’t charge me for it. Every time I’ve been there they’ve gone above & beyond.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Gelfling 545: Google is working on Translate. I expect them to make rapid progress over the coming years. TechCrunch (from 2017):

    Last fall, Google introduced a new system for machine-assisted language translations, Google Neural Machine Translation system (GNMT), which takes advantage of deep neural networks to translate entire sentences – not just phrases – for greatly improved translations. The company put the system to work in Google Translate for eight language pairs in November, and is today expanding support to three more: Russian, Hindi and Vietnamese.

    Neural Machine Translation went into action late last year with support for translating to and from English and French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Turkish. These represent the native languages of around one-third of the world’s population, covering more than 35% of all Google Translate queries, the company said at the time.

    […]

    They’re not resting on their laurels, even if it’s still not close to being a Babel fish.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    ” That piece was written in a way that you couldn’t tell they were spoofing.”

    I knew they were spoofing when they said that troops weren’t left standing in Vietnam and Korea for years, when troops are STILL standing in Korean after 65+ years!

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