Here’s the next wingnut move to make sure they keep stroking that rod:
NEWFOUNDLAND, Pa. — A Pennsylvania-based religious group is scheduled to host a blessing ceremony for couples that will feature their AR-15 rifles.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the biblical book of Revelation, and it is encouraging couples to bring the weapons to a commitment ceremony Wednesday morning.
“Pope LaPierre” has quite a ring to it, don’t you think?
Update: My God:
Hundreds of crown-wearing worshipers clutching AR-15 rifles drank holy wine and exchanged or renewed wedding vows in a commitment ceremony at a Pennsylvania church https://t.co/V7yOttUfEU pic.twitter.com/b2NZe85CHQ
— CBS News (@CBSNews) March 1, 2018
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
https://twitter.com/AP_Images/status/968938936973365255 this made me fucking vomit
Adam L Silverman
This is Sun Myung Moon’s son’s church/ministry for what it’s worth.
Fair Economist
Another right-wing event that’s so ridiculous it just *has* to be parody. But it’s not.
Adam L Silverman
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I fixed that for you, it had captured the reply button.
Also, this is Sun Myung Moon’s son’s church. So you’re basically dealing with a cult.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
American Taliban.
no different than other extremists who bless AK-47s
billcoop4
Hock loogies on them.
BC
Mike in NC
Do the Moonies still own the right-wing Washington Times, which first saw the light of day during the Reagan administration? Moon might have been a bigger con artist than Pat Roberts or Jerry Falwell.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I think there’s some sandal wearing, bearded hippie dude from a while back who might have some words for these people.
Yarrow
It’s like The Onion except real. The crowns of bullets really sell it.
foucault swing voter mistermix
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): He who fucks guns will later join the church. Death or glory becomes just another story.
Cap'n Phealy
Later on, there was a reading by Brother Maynard from the Book of Armaments.
NotMax
Ceremony isn’t a prayer so much as a series of bullet points.
Used to live two hops and a skip from Newfoundland (pronounced new-FOUND-land). The populace, such as it was, wasn’t all that gonzo then.
Ohio Mom
Oh my. I stay off the internet for the better part of a whole day and this is the first thing I see upon my return.
I’m afraid to see what else I missed.
Magda in Black
Jesus wept.
Mathguy
It certainly smells more like number two than number one.
Aleta
Missing the Iron,, but splendiferously divine all the same.
On Vimeo (top video) Unification Sanctuary Declaration of the Constitution of the United States of Cheon Il Guk
(Don’t risk watching too much beyond the first minute lest you leave our flock for theirs.)
Another Scott
@NotMax:
Interesting. In Canuckistan, they pronounce it (roughly) nufun-LAND!!
Cheers,
Scott.
efgoldman
Maybe Emma Gonzalez and a bunch of Parkland kids should take a bus up to their Sunday srvices
DanF
“Blessed are the arms manufacturers for they shall inherit what’s left of the earth.” Jesus H Christ, Guns & Ammo 7:13
efgoldman
@NotMax:
I see what….
Baud
I knew gay marriage was a slippery slope.
Jay
@Aleta: @Another Scott:
Nope, it’s just Newf,
NorthLeft12
“Lord tunderin’ jaysus” or “Jaysus, Maary, and Joseph” as the beloved Newfoundlanders of Canada would say.
Too many people in your country are headed into the scary crazy territory that I really am wondering if you sane Americans will be able to pull your country back from the abyss. These asshats seem determined to drag your country back into the early nineteenth century.
debbie
This is horrifying.
Yarrow
“Rod of iron?” Isn’t that what all the guys like to claim?
evodevo
Oh, wait … it’s a cult church … I thought it was just your average winger pentacostals or something … I guess the crowns would be too much for normal wingers?
Magda in Black
@NorthLeft12:
Go back further…think tribal.
Bronze Age seems about right.
debbie
@NorthLeft12:
The photos made me think of those Pentacostal services with poisonous snakes. This ceremony almost seems like the natural next step.
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
Even accounting for that, what the ever loving fuck?
efgoldman
@NorthLeft12:
They’re very loud, and the intartoobz (and Russian bots) amplify the noise geometrically (logarithmically? I don’t know the difference). Our side is very energized – look at the results of special elections.
No Drought No More
If Hope Hicks sense of self preservation is acute, she’ll have a restraining issued against Trump, one that prevents him from contacting, tweeting about, or dreaming about her. And then she should take a business card out of her wallet, the one that Mueller’s guy must have handed her, when he told her to give him a call if she recollects something she neglected to mention in the interview..
schrodingers_cat
@efgoldman: The word you are looking for is, exponentially.
MomSense
I really wish this was fake news. I’d rather hang out with the neighborhood dogs.
NotMax
@efgoldman
A ripple here, a ripple there, pretty soon you’ve got a wave.
WereBear
There is a sense of despair in the satire world tonight. How can they compete?
Steve in the ATL
@foucault swing voter mistermix: nice. Anything you can work in from “guns of brixton”?
Jay
@efgoldman:
Yup, La Meute in Quebec, ( Nazi’s) claims to have between 30,000 and 60,000 members, armed and ready,
But the most they have ever gotten out to a racist protest is 25 people.
Doug R
Tbone
Don’t these assholes realize when we call them ammosexuals, it was supposed to be a joke?
mad citizen
Remember this guy–nailed it in 2008 (from the Guardian via googling):
Obama was caught in an uncharacteristic moment of loose language. Referring to working-class voters in old industrial towns decimated by job losses, the presidential hopeful said: “They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
The comments were seized on by his rival for the Democratic party candidacy, Hillary Clinton, who saw in them the hope of reviving her flagging campaign by turning voters in the important Pennsylvania primary on April 22 against what she classed as Obama’s revealed “elitism”.
“I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America,” she said on Saturday. “His remarks are elitist and out of touch.” Clinton campaigners in North Carolina handed out stickers saying: “I’m not bitter.”
Obama’s comments are potentially incendiary in the Pennsylvania rust belt. Analysts speculated that the remarks could give white working-class voters the excuse they needed not to vote for Obama, whose candidacy has been regarded with scepticism in the state but had shown some signs of growing momentum.
Raoul
Moonies (eta: or whatever son-of-Moonies are called).
Years ago a work friend told me about his family’s brush with Moonies. His brother was in one of those mass weddings in San Francisco. He met the woman he was to marry the day of the event.
Those folks are a tragic mix of brainwashed, and broken enough to have arrived wanting to be brainwashed.
BruceFromOhio
WE WORSHIP.
You can fill in the blanks from there with whatever you want, because this shit is off the fucking chart crazy.
trollhattan
Here’s your tie in.
Tell me you’re surprised. Pass the Lord and praise the ammunition.
cynn
Just send me to the cornfield.
p.a.
@WereBear: Onion writers go on a three day drunk.
I was thinking “spare the AR spoil the child” but it’s not remotely funny given the mindset we’re looking at, i.e. “… using the sympathy for shot children…” NRA-think.
raven
Thank god we have a president who is going to kick in the doors of these motherfuckers and take their heat!
Sister Golden Bear
Pulled into my hotel in Ruidoso, NM, and there were dozens of police, some with semi-automatic rifles, out in front.
Turns out someone threatened to kill a bunch of students at the local high school and middle school, so the kids were evacuated here, where their parents could pick them up — hence the heavy security.
Doubtful the incident will get press coverage beyond the local area because these sorts of things have become routine.
When did we become OK with people terrorizing over communities, whether through actual mass shootings or the threat of them?! I sure as hell hope we truly are at s tipping point.
M. Bouffant
@Magda in Black: Yep. The Iron Age would be a little too much for them.
NotMax
Too many Iron Cross one-liners to choose from.
Jay
@Raoul:
Back in the day, 100 years ago, I had my own experience. They prey on lonely innocent people, and use NORK indoctrination techniques, (hard work, substandard diet, long hours, programming sessions, group and self criticism, group policing).
Bobby Thomson
Moloch-worshiping idolaters.
A little too on the nose.
rikyrah
Kushner gets $184 Million dollar loan from equity fund after White House meetings
$300 million from Citigroup after White House meetings
tobie
@mad citizen: I thought of this episode often when the media was going crazy about HRC’s deplorable comment. Every campaign has moments when they speak too candidly. Obama’s diagnosis of the problem was right.
BluegirlFromWyo
No wonder the anti-gay marriage people are afraid of a slippery slope. Projection, thy name is wingnut.
Jay
@rikyrah:
Does that allow Jivanka to pay down their credit cards?
NotMax
Flash from the past, per Wikipedia.
NorthLeft12
@efgoldman: You know ef, the rest of the world is counting on you guys. Not least of all your friendly neighbours to the north.
Best of luck to you.
debbie
@Jay:
A Moonie grabbed my elbow and wouldn’t let go. This was in Rockefeller Center in the late 1970s. He had this really creepy smile. Luckily, a construction worker ran up and chased him off.
mad citizen
@tobie: On Monday and Tuesday night driving home on my local beltway I’ve come across a white pickup with the simple sticker on the driver’s side cab window: “Extremely Deplorable”. Tuesday I looked over and it was a young beared white guy with sock hat. I want to flip a finger so bad, but think better about inciting road rage. Probably why I have no stickers on my car.
Eric
Now that is some quality product placement.
NotMax
@rikyrah
BTW, Citigroup is the major tenant at the Fifth Avenue building. In fact, the Citigroup logo replaced the original giant 666 which had been atop the building since it opened.
oatler.
A pasture’s worth of Judas goats diving into the meat grinder.
Suzanne
This is even creepier than the little girls in wedding dresses promising their hymens to their dads.
Ugh. So much fail. So very much fail.
dmsilev
@rikyrah: Let’s play the fun game “who leaked this?”. Considering all the Jared stories that have come out this week, someone really really really has it in for him. Kelly would be the obvious suspect, which raises the amusing scenario of Kelly torpedoing Jared, Ivanka convincing Daddy to fire Kelly in retaliation, and then the chaos spreads further.
Meanwhile, the theme from Jaws is playing on constant loop as Mueller circles around and spirals closer with each loop.
NotMax
Anyone else remember this?
hellslittlestangel
Q: The gun situation in the US can’t possibly get more fucked up.
A: Hold my holy wine.
John Revolta
@NotMax: That’s a shame. The 666 on top was the only cool thing about that building.
Bill
The church is run by a Moon, Kahr arms is owned by his brother. The church would like you to purchase an AR15 at their gun mega-store to bring to the ceremony. If you are unable to purchase a gun, for reasons, they would like you to purchase a $700 gift certificate from the gun mega-store to show your commitment. Not Making This Up.
Jay
@debbie:
I left the “Farm Compound” outside San Jose, after two weeks, when I realized who they were. It was really easy to get in, not so easy to get out, but eventually, they drove me back to SF.
efgoldman
@Tbone:
Humor is among their missing attributes. Not only missing, but in negative quantities
mad citizen
@hellslittlestangel: That is funny! You win tonight’s internets.
NotMax
@John Revolta
Gone now, but for many years there was a hoity-toity restaurant on the uppermost floor called Top of the Sixes.
efgoldman
@raven:
If he ever comes face to face with some of those open carry motherfuckers,h e better hope an assistant is carrying an extra clean pair of pants. Underoos, too.
John Revolta
@dmsilev: This is reminding me of the liquor store shootout near the end of Repo Man:
Jared: I blame society………………..society brought me to this sorry fate………….
Kelly: Bullshit. You’re just a rich white kid like everybody else.
Jared: But it still huuuurrrrrrtts…………………….
SCENE
sukabi
@NotMax:
Potato Patahto…
Evil is as evil does…
Brendan in NC
Holy crap! That’s the next exit down I-84 from where I usually stop on my way to my parents place in Maine. Outside the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area – whole lotta nothing around it.
NotMax
@efgoldman
“Trumperoos. You can get them in any color you want so long as it is brown.”
MoCA Ace
These people are human filth. As a Christian and responsible gun owner I am doubly offended. Enraged and offended!
There was a period where I actually thought we were moving beyond the point where Christianity could be so easily twisted into something so vile… I am under no such delusions anymore. As an owner of hunting firearms I have long believed that the ammosexuals were going to screw it up for all of us. At this point I can honestly say I don’t care anymore.
NotMax
@Brendan in NC
Whole lotta Promised Land State Park.
lgerard
Those crowns made from bullets that some of them are wearing are pretty fashionable. I wonder if they come in different calibers?
Adam L Silverman
@Ruckus: Cults gonna cult.
Bill
@Brendan in NC: There are state gamelands to either side of 84, and as NotMax mentioned, a state park. Not very far away are many many houses with many many Long Islanders in them. Huge resort and retirement community, pretty much all the way down to Rt. 80 and the water gap. Poconos, baby.
Honus
@Ohio Mom: well, an armed teacher shot up a school today. But the cops said he wasn’t intending to but anybody. It was in Georgia.
M. Bouffant
@NotMax: That had just occurred to me. Not so hoity-toity, howev. (Now I’m trying to remember if my Long Island relatives took me there in 1968 when I visited the Apple.)
See also: Seattle’s Space Needle.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: Trijicon ACOGs. I remember when that story broke.
debbie
@Jay:
That is scary.
rikyrah
@dmsilev:
LOL at Jaws theme
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
I have been around cults for half a century. Not at my choosing I might add. I fully understand that they are fucking crazy. As in insane crazy. No, as in fucking insane crazy. This is beyond the pale crazy. Bug fuck, locked up inside foot thick wall fucking crazy.
Adam L Silverman
@Ruckus: Pure Americana. When Jefferson and Madison separated church from state they made it necessary for the churches to have to hustle on the free market to sell their wares. And they’ve been hustling ever since. I know why they did what they did. I know why they thought it was a good idea. But if you look at the places that didn’t make the separation in Europe almost every single one of them doesn’t have this problem because religion has faded into the background. Sometimes fixing the problem just creates new, different problems.
efgoldman
@Ruckus:
Padded? Soundproof? Bulletproof?
smintheus
This is the town where former NYC druglord Johnny Onionhead Eng had a large estate before his arrest. He and his gang reportedly used it for their machine gun practice.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: 100 proof.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
I’ll take it over a state religion, nominally or not.
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
Ah, but go back to the time of the Constitution and religious conflicts were very much in recent memory.
efgoldman
@efgoldman: [Too late to edit] Not to mention the more recent conflicts in Ulster
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
OT:
I had my orientation last Friday for the new job and guess what? I found out they actually paid us for the 3 hrs we were there. Of course, after the union intiation fees, dues and taxes I was left with 6 dollars.
Is that normal for companies to pay new hires for that kind of thing?
NotMax
@efgoldman
And recenter.
Belfast calling on line 2.
Mike in NC
Pope La
PierrePerforatedNotMax
@Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito)
When you’re on the clock, you’re on the clock.
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman: France has an even stricter separation of church and state than the US and it is a far more secular country. I’m not sure we can blame this on the lack of established religion. Note that the First Great Awakening in the colonies preceded independence and the Bill of Rights.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: I understand completely. At the time it made perfect sense to do, or try to do, what they did. With over 200 years of space and the ability to compare to what happened in the states of Europe that they held up as examples of concern, perhaps not so much.
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: Yes. Orientation is work so they pay you for it.
efgoldman
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?:
Decent companies (and most union companies) do; Shitty companies don’t
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: I don’t disagree. It is just interesting what history has wrought.
Matt McIrvin
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: I should think so. You had to show up and do what they told you to do.
JR
@Adam L Silverman: Considering that the founding fathers were inking the constitution just a handful of years before dechristianization took hold in France, I don’t think they were terribly misguided in creating that fix.
Adam L Silverman
@Matt McIrvin: Well there was that little thing about wrapping the American revolution in apocalyptic rhetoric.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@NotMax:
We weren’t registered in the system until the very end. Pretty cool regardless.
The paychecks are posted online 2 days before actual payday. Apparently corporate has to check payroll each week, otherwise payday would be on Tuesday instead of Thursday.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@efgoldman:
That explains why. The company is unionized. I thought that had something to do with it.
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
Pure speculation: what religion would Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and the gang have chosen if they had chosen to establish? Or would they still be arguing about it 200+ years later?
Gex mobile
@MoCA Ace: when did you think that? The last 20 years as they waged war on gays? The last 40 years they waged war on women’s health? Or the last 50 years where the evangelism and pro-segregation forces became aligned?
NotMax
@Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito)
You were in the system from the moment they hired you.
Welcome to cogdom.
JR
@efgoldman: Those guys wouldn’t have been the ones behind the establishment of the national church, and since at least a handful of the most widely practiced variants of Christianity were decidedly anti-hierarchical you’re probably just left with Anglicism or Presbyterianism.
Mike J
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?:
If you’re required to be there, they’re required to pay you.
NotMax
@efgoldman
Whatever Franklin might have leaned to, it would have included turkeys.
:)
efgoldman
@NotMax:
Could have been the Congregationals or the Unitarians, two liberal offshoots of the original New England Puritans. The First (UU) Church of Boston is the successor to the original Pilgrim church.
Amir Khalid
@Matt McIrvin:
French secularism can go too far. I think giving Muslim girls grief for wearing hijab to school, and Sikh boys for wearing turbans, crosses the line into oppression of religious expression.
ArchTeryx
@Raoul: Sadly, I lost a friend to the Moonies. He became a right wing troll around the time he joined the cult. His marriage was…arranged, as indicated above, and his college-aged daughter is now an alcoholic. (Gee, I wonder why). I unfriended him around the time Trump was elected, telling him I had no room for people who voted for my death and gloated about it.
They ate his soul.
NotMax
OT.
Step-nephew was born on February 29. Should I call and wake him up when it’s the stroke of midnight in his time zone?
:)
(He shares a birthday with Superman!)
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: I have no idea.
Citizen Alan
@Matt McIrvin:
To me, everything always goes back to white supremacy. The most politically active and politically aggressive religious groups in this country are the Southern evangelical denominations, all of which came into existence solely because white antebellum plantation owners wanted religious that would reassure them that God approved of slavery.
Sab
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: We have your grocery chain here. I don’t shop there because they are pricey and they don’t have good basics ( their shoppers apparently don’t cook from scratch.) My spouse loves them because their employees are so nice, and also because he doesn’t cook from scratch either. I hope you have a good experience with them.
Matt McIrvin
@Amir Khalid: US First Amendment law would generally agree with you, though for how long I can only guess.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: And Hebrew.
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: Interesting perspective on church and state. I’ll have to cogitate on this one. OTOH with several colonies founded for a particular religion (Maryland, Rhode Island, even PA) it’s hard to see how they could have done anything else to stitch together a nation.
Matt McIrvin
@Citizen Alan: Also, the specific cult in question here is an offshoot of one that was of Korean origin. I can’t speak to the situation concerning church and state in South Korea.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: As in the day Superman was created? The date of the first publication of Superman in Action Comics? Or Kal-El’s actually birthdate on the modern Kryptonian calender?
frosty
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: Yes, it’s been my experience that orientation is paid. Congrats on the job and the six bucks!
Adam L Silverman
@frosty: Just something that first struck me as a thought exercise in grad school. This is what happens when the person who supervised the political science portion of your PhD is the father of the study of religion and politics in political science.
Matt McIrvin
@NotMax: Is he apprenticed to pirates?
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
I wonder if it was a couple of things.
First, European countries are mostly a lot older than the US. They have had time to go through the ins and outs of religion/government and a lot of them had issues which is why they’ve ended up where they are. We are at a point where we have to make a strong distinction that the government is for everyone, religion is for those that want it and not to be inflicted upon those that don’t. The founders gave it a decent try but enough people weren’t ready for that. Like everything else it takes a tipping point.
Second, remember the Puritans didn’t come here because of being persecuted, they came here to practice persecution. We have bits and pieces of that still haunting us today.
Steve in the ATL
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: it’s not the union that got you paid, it’s the FLSA
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: Don’t ask trivial questions when there’s an expert around!
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Sab:
I hope so too. It’s a taste of a real job for me. My first and current job was bussing for a banquet hall. Never had the levels of management my new place does. It was probably the easiest job I’ll ever have.
Steve in the ATL
@ArchTeryx: that is sad. Who the fuck gets involved with the Moonies in this day and age?
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: @frosty: I’m going to embed this one:
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: @frosty: Forgot: as in the day the Kents found him?
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Superboy Prime is the Sonic ’06 of comics.
Justifiably so.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: We are going to have to get you professional help for your Superboy Prime fetish.
Amir Khalid
@Matt McIrvin:
For what it’s worth, Wikipedia says 57% of South Koreans are of unknown religious affiliation. Of the rest, there are almost twice as many (mostly Protestant) Christians as Buddhists, which I found surprising. No mention of a state religion, so I assume it’s officially secular.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Per the 1976 Super DC Calendar.
Also too,
In actuality, in canon the date has changed repeatedly.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
I said justifiably so! I mean, I compared him to a Sonic ’06. That’s not a compliment.
NotMax
@Matt McIrvin
Well played.
Amir Khalid
@NotMax:
I think the rule is that in non-leap years Superman would celebrate his birthday on March 1.
Steve in the ATL
I miss the days when nerds stayed in the closet!
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Steve in the ATL:
Oh. Neat.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@frosty:
Thanks!
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax:
I know. I was just teasing.
Calouste
@NotMax: So Superman was born on Leap Year Day in a non-leap year?
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
In this case I’m willing to take TIME magazine as definitive, reboots be damned.
;)
NotMax
@Calouste
Well, after all he is Superman.
Sab
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: Neat!? You sound so midwestern. I love it and use it all the time as did my mother, but I am amazed it has survived at least three generations.
...now I try to be amused
AR-15s in church
PEW PEW PEW
The juxtaposition is delicious.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Sab:
Ha ha. It’s not a word I use often in real life, but I say it from time to time. Cool is what I usually use and it seems remarkably eternal.
M. Bouffant
@NotMax: “1988 which I attended (and I cannot believe that was 20 years ago)”
I can’t believe it was only 20 yrs, ago, either, unless that was a typo.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@M. Bouffant:
More than likely that was written 10 years ago. It would be 30 or so years ago now.
MoxieM
@efgoldman: Jefferson was known to have Arminian and Unitarian sentiments (see the way he edited his own bible with a pair of scissors for example). He also pre-dated Theodore Parker by a few decades in thinking the so-called miracles of Christ were hokum. I believe there were other founding fathers who were deists. John Adams of course attended the United First Parish (in Quincy now, not Braintree) otherwise known by itself as “church of the Presidents”, plural from JQ, Jr. I guess.
I’m guessing it would have been a pissing contest between the scurrilous Anglicans of Virginia, and the True Believer Orthodox Congregationalists of New England, with the Quakers in the middle, like the baloney in a sandwich. Whether the OC would have come to their minds and become Unitarian in 1804 is anybody’s guess (Park St. Church about a decade earlier).
Probably more church history than you wanted, but, poke a familial Unitarian, and you just never know. You are more likely to be bored to death than shot, I imagine.
Heywood J.
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks for confirming that. Soon as I saw the photo I thought, “Christ. Fucking Moonies.” Those stupid crowns look exactly like the one that dipshit Danny Davis “crowned” Sun Myung Moon with — in a Federal building, no less — back in 2004. Worse than $cientologists.
Ruckus
@Heywood J.:
That is a low blow. And hard to imagine. But seemingly true in this instance. Maybe we could say, they are birds of a feather, possibly, same shit – different day.
MoCA Ace
@Gex mobile:
Probably before I became more politically aware and wasn’t paying much attention. You know, wrapped in my bubble like most Americans.
Arclite
Jesus was all about the weapons after all. Wasn’t one of his sayings: “Kill thy neighbor as thee would kill thyself?”
Van Buren
But it was so impolite to say that they cling to their guns and religion!
ET
Isn’t there a commandment about putting other gods first?
I knew they prayed to their god The Gun I just didn’t see it so literally.
JR
@Amir Khalid: Beats tying priests together on a boat and sinking them in the Loire.
Uncle Ebeneezer
A wonderful activist friend of mine (she helps run our Indivisible) just posted this story/tweet and said “Hey, there’s my Dad.” Literally. She’s estranged from her family since she escaped the cult and is even involved in some legal maneuvering to try to keep them away from her and her brother.
Heywood J.
@Ruckus: It is a low blow, I’ll admit. But at least the Hubbardites don’t own an influential (if money-losing) newspaper in the nation’s capital, and they don’t seem to try to meddle with our domestic politics. Nor do they have a history of smuggling arms to the Norks.
jayjaybear
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): This is an offshoot of the Moonies. That sandal-wearing hippie has been superseded by the NEW Messiah, a suit-wearing Korean Jesus!