Breaking: Armed Dalton High School Teacher In Custody For School Shooting

So much for good guy’s with guns…

From WGNO:

DALTON, GA. – An armed teacher has been arrested after shots were fired at a high school in a small town in northern Georgia.

The Dalton Police Department reported that “shot or shots” had been fired at Dalton High School just after 11:15 a.m. on the department’s official Twitter account.

Minutes later, DPD added that the armed suspect was barricaded inside a classroom at the school and urged parents not to come to the school.

Students were transported to the Northeast Georgia Trade Center for pickup, according to the DPD.

At 11:23 a.m., the department tweeted an update that read “The teacher is in custody.”

No students were harmed, and no children were in danger during the incident, according to the DPD.

This is obviously going to be a fast changing story as more information becomes available, especially in regard to the teacher’s motives and the actual events.

Stay frosty.

Open thread!

145 replies
  1. 1
    Adam L Silverman says:

    In other important crime related news from Georgia

  2. 2
    bystander says:

    We thought we had traumatic childhoods, growing up with JFK, MLK, urban riots, Bobby. Nothing compared with what the average 9 year old faces daily.

  3. 3
    anon says:

    fake news. it is actually from PA

  4. 4
    matt says:

    The writing on this TV show is a little bit too heavy handed for my tastes.

  5. 5
    Spanky says:

    Since it’s both an Open Thread and Gun Nuts thread, I’ll repost this from downstairs:

    Forty-seven minutes after news broke of a high school shooting in Parkland, Fla., the posters on the anonymous chat board 8chan had devised a plan to bend the public narrative to their own designs: “Start looking for [Jewish] numerology and crisis actors.”

    The voices from this dark corner of the Internet quickly coalesced around a plan of attack: Use details gleaned from news reports and other sources to push false information about one of America’s deadliest school shootings.

    The posters on anonymous forums, a cauldron of far-right extremist politics, over the next few hours speculated about the shooter’s ethnicity (“Hope the kid isn’t white”) and cracked off-color jokes. They began crafting false explanations about the massacre, including that actors were posing as students, in hopes of blunting what they correctly guessed would be a revived interest in gun control.

    The success of this effort would soon illustrate how lies that thrive on raucous online platforms increasingly shape public understanding of major events. As much of the nation mourned, the story concocted on anonymous chat rooms soon burst onto YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, where the theories surged in popularity.

    Amid corporate efforts to beat back the falsehoods, the episode became the latest cautionary tale about how the Internet itself had become a potent tool of deception wielded by political extremists, disinformation warriors and conspiracy theorists.

    Go read the whole thang.

  6. 6

    This poor teacher was obviously bullied. Why are we focusing on guns guns guns!?‽

  7. 7
    Jeffro says:

    And just like that, the whole “arm the teachers” thing goes up in a puff of (gun) smoke…NEXT!

    I see Marco Rubio done got himself all wound up on Twitter that Dem lawmakers were – get this – meeting to discuss how to use gun safety as one of their issues in the upcoming elections. Can you imagine a political party organizing on how to advocate for one side of the gun issue? Unbelievable!!

    (fortunately Chris Murphy was there to drag lil’ Marco a bit…not nearly enough for my taste, though)

    Get used to this, folks: Dems will be “politicizing everything!!” while hapless Republicans just want to get on with the business of governing…(!)

  8. 8
    Corner Stone says:

    If there were shots fired, who was he shooting at? How can they declare no children are hurt / in harms way when this just happened?
    Maybe he was using his lunch period to clean his firearm, it “accidentally” went off. The teacher then panicked, freaked out, and barricaded himself in the room so he could pray to his Gun God.

  9. 9
    Ol'Froth says:

    Watch them squeal “FALSE FLAG OPERATION!”

  10. 10
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @anon: So it is, I hadn’t read the story. I wrongly assumed that since this was an Atlanta TV station, the story would be from Georgia.

  11. 11
    Schlemazel says:

    I have to laugh, sorry. This was so predictable.

    Here is a palate cleanser. It says a ton about why this group of kids was ready to go as well as what education can be.

    https://splinternews.com/the-teacher-who-taught-his-students-to-challenge-the-nr-1823355017/amp

  12. 12
    trollhattan says:

    @Jeffro:
    Only arm the good (at aimin’ and killin’) teachers, Trump said so! Theater Arts teacher is right out.

  13. 13
    Shana says:

    Since it’s an open thread, I’ll just report that I’ve been on the web portal’s line at the Kennedy Center trying to buy Hamilton tickets since 11am. I’ve got 55,000 in line ahead of me. Sigh.

  14. 14
    LAO says:

    Just in time for Turmp’s meeting with legislators on the issue of school safety. I’m confident it will be addressed.

  15. 15
    TenguPhule says:

    @Jeffro:

    And just like that, the whole “arm the teachers” thing goes up in a puff of (gun) smoke…NEXT!

    Oh you poor naive soul.

    This is proof more guns are needed since obviously it was the duty of the other teachers to shoot this bad apple. //

  16. 16
    LAO says:

    Hmm. O/T but this seems important:

    BREAKING: New York’s banking regulator has asked Deutsche Bank and two other banks to provide info about Jared Kushner, his family and the Kushner Cos., @gregfarrel and @davidkski report.— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) February 28, 2018

  17. 17
    germy says:

    @LAO: I don’t understand the recent news about the possible sale of his building.

    Can someone explain?

  18. 18
    Gin & Tonic says:

    You’re all missing the major issue here – why is there lobster next to that pot of meatballs? WTF?

  19. 19
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Shana:

    Hope you get them! The only person I know who was underwhelmed is our blog friend Roger Moore, who had the bad luck to be there on a night when all three leads (Hamilton, Burr, and Lafayette/Jefferson) were played by the understudies.

  20. 20
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: Ruh Roh!

  21. 21
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: The lobster was hungry and wanted a meatball grinder.

    Any other questions?

  22. 22
    LAO says:

    @germy:

    Here is a totally non-political article about 666 Fifth Avenue. https://ny.curbed.com/2018/2/27/17058248/midtown-nyc-666-fifth-avenue-kushner-companies

  23. 23
    The Lodger says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The logos on the Twitter clips clearly say, “DALTON GEORGIA”. There are Daltons in both GA and PA, though.

  24. 24
    Matt McIrvin says:

    @Ol’Froth: I have to admit the timing of it is so perfect that it makes me suspicious.

  25. 25
    germy says:

    Todd is fed up with Ms. Hicks.

    After every on the record statement she gives, every reporter and viewer/reader now won’t know whether she’s speaking the truth. Hard to justify using her quotes or statements in any story given this admission. https://t.co/3ePoTdCilr— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) February 28, 2018

  26. 26
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Huh. I didn’t realize you could know the correct word for a sandwich all the way down there in America’s penis.

    But the poor lobster, from the looks of it, succumbed to somebody higher up the food chain.

  27. 27
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Schlemazel: The problem with this is that by close of business today, Marion Hammer will have legislation written and introduced making it illegal in Florida for teacher to teach anything about the NRA not written and/or approved by the NRA. And lest you think I’m joking, I’m not.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies

  28. 28
    cleek says:

    arm the students so they can defend themselves against armed teachers!

    Freedom™!

  29. 29
    germy says:

    @LAO: Thank you.

  30. 30
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @The Lodger: I’ve lived in both PA and GA, so I’m aware. I meant the meatball story, not the shooting story. The meatball story is from PA, the shooting GA.

  31. 31
    Leto says:

    I posted this downstairs in response to a question Amir Khalid had (figured dead thread and all) regarding “gun nutz” (like truck nutz):

    Sorry, back from a meeting and lunch, but you are correct. I also wish that part was snark, but alas: Gunsticles! <–link

    Also nothing says this is a penis replacement like adding a scrotum to it. Google images of it are both hilarious (in the point/mock category) and just sad. <–link

    I'm also lost in the Black Panther spoiler thread and loving every minute of it. This article from The Atlantic wasn't mentioned/posted but it's a good read too (yes, spoilers): The Tragedy of Erik Killmonger: The revolutionary ideals of Black Panther’s profound and complex villain have been twisted into a desire for hegemony.

  32. 32
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @germy: Chuckles has people on his show who lie to his face regularly. What’s so special about Hope Hicks?

  33. 33
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I’m good with sandwiches.

    It appears you are correct.

  34. 34
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Overly smokey eyes.

  35. 35
    germy says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Chuckles has people on his show who lie to his face regularly. What’s so special about Hope Hicks?

    I was wondering the same thing.

    And he knows they’re lying. He just feels it isn’t his business to let viewers know about the lies.

  36. 36
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Spanky:
    Not a lot that’s new there. 4chan, 8chan and Reddit have been hotbeds of this nastiness for years. But it’s helpful as a one-stop guide, I guess.

    Frontpagers and commenters, please make a practice of identifying a site you link to, at least if the site imposes a monthly cap on how many stories a non-subscriber may read for free. Among the news sites that do this are Slate, The New York Times, and The Washington Post, all of which are frequently linked to from here. These may be got around by those who know how, but it helps to have the warning.

  37. 37
    trollhattan says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    We’ve gone from gun crime to food crime.

  38. 38
    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It appears you are correct.

    You mean you really live in the penis of the United States?

  39. 39
    TenguPhule says:

    Alain lied! Bad words are still bad!

  40. 40
    Roger Moore says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Chuckles has people on his show who lie to his face regularly. What’s so special about Hope Hicks?

    She publicly admitted she lies. I guess it’s OK to lie to his face as long as you continue to lie and claim you always tell the truth. But telling the truth by admitting you sometimes lie is unconscionable.

  41. 41
    Amir Khalid says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Which bad words?

  42. 42
    TenguPhule says:

    @Amir Khalid: the anatomical word for dick still sends you into moderation.

    Trapped there now.

  43. 43
    TenguPhule says:

    @Roger Moore:

    But telling the truth by admitting you sometimes lie is unconscionable.

    What do you mean, sometimes?

  44. 44
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Roger Moore: Wondering how Chuckie would handle the old logic puzzle.

  45. 45
  46. 46
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @TenguPhule: You have to know how to say it.

  47. 47
    AliceBlue says:

    Did Trump get to Dalton in time to storm the room?

  48. 48
    Amir Khalid says:

    Test:
    Emma Watson’s socialist pussycat wears casino penis shoes.

  49. 49
    Cacti says:

    Only a good teacher with a gun can stop a bad teacher with a gun.

    Or something.

  50. 50
    Jeffro says:

    Breaking: Sessions just fired back at Trumpov, “As long as I am Attorney General, I will continue to discharge my duties with integrity and honor”

    Twitter commenters:
    – Sessions finally found his balls?
    – Only Trump could get me to root for Sessions
    – Aren’t you supposed to have honor and integrity to begin with?

  51. 51
    LAO says:

    @Jeffro: Tell them, no. No rooting for Sessions. Root for injuries.

  52. 52
    Jeffro says:

    @LAO: It is quite important. Clearly Kushner is going to have to be thrown under the bus by Trumpov at some point…the problem is, Trumpov also has to throw Manafort and Flynn under them thar wheels as well. That’s a lot for a single bus to cover.

    “These guys? My son-in-law, my former campaign manager, and my national security adviser? Never knew ’em. Never met with ’em. Never heard a word of advice of any kind from them. It’s just me, glorious me, and it always has been…”

    OR, or…maybe we just go with the simpler explanation there, Orange Crash. Maybe the fact that everyone around you is corrupt isn’t just coincidence?

  53. 53
    Mike J says:

    @Schlemazel: I haven’t read the article, but the URL encourages me to think he trained them to challenge National Review, and I like the thought of that.

  54. 54
    Amir Khalid says:

    Test 2:
    Emma Watson’s socialist pussycat wears casino penis shoes.
    @TenguPhule:
    @Gin & Tonic:
    Gin & Tonic is right, There’s a way to use the word without getting moderated.

  55. 55
    Penus says:

    @TenguPhule: Not if you misspell it, I hear!

  56. 56
    West of the Rockies (been a while) says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Did he have any marinara on his hands? Talk about being caught red-handed.

  57. 57
    Jeffro says:

    @Cacti:

    Only a good teacher with a gun can stop a bad teacher with a gun.

    Or something.

    I’m (almost) looking forward to the contortions that LaPierre and like-minded whack jobs are going to have to pull off in order to answer the ‘upset teacher with a gun’ scenario without taking guns out of the equation. What else shall we do here, Wayne? Mental stability testing of teachers on a daily basis? Swivel cameras, monitored 24-7 by the principal, in every class? (Those might have to include some sort of Taser-like ability to stun the teacher should he make one false move while the principal’s watching?)

    ANYTHING but the obvious.

    Should be interesting!

  58. 58
    Immanentize says:

    @Jeffro:
    I love it when Sessions says, “honor.’. Cracks me up every time.

    It looks like Jeffy has finally chosen sides after learning of the latest snitch info in the Mueller probe.

    Honor!

  59. 59
    Roger Moore says:

    @TenguPhule:

    What do you mean, sometimes?

    I’m sure she tells the truth once in a while; not everybody can lie 100% of the time like her mentor.

  60. 60
    germy says:

    @Jeffro:

    “My son-in-law? I met him once or twice. My daughter seems fond of him. The heart wants what the heart wants, you know? I never spent enough time with him to form an opinion.”

  61. 61
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @TenguPhule: No the lobster in that picture has been cooked. Keep it together!

  62. 62
    LAO says:

    @Immanentize: Sessions is going ride his tenure as Attorney General for as long as he can — and implement one terrible policy after another until he’s gone.

  63. 63
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @AliceBlue: He got winded after the first 3 feet.

  64. 64
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Immanentize: Let me know when he challenges him to a duel.

  65. 65
    Spanky says:

    Lehigh University faculty votes to rescind Trump’s honorary degree

  66. 66
    Aleta says:

    @matt: The edits are too intense too.

  67. 67
    Lee says:

    @Amir Khalid: Subscribed.

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    Jay S says:

    @Cacti:

    Only a good teacher with a gun can stop a bad teacher with a gun

    Arming the administrators and students is the obvious solution. The problem resolution would be glorious.

  70. 70
    PJ says:

    @LAO: I don’t understand how, legally or illegally, buying the whole building helps the Kushners. $1.2 billion is due on the mortgage next year, and they can’t find any reputable lenders or buyers now because they way overpaid. How does going further in debt help them? Is there some kind of “Producers” scheme at work where the more they owe, the more they can make if they go into bankruptcy? How can the Russians or Chinese come to the rescue with all the scrutiny any deal will be under?

  71. 71
    Jeffro says:

    On a tangent: isn’t it just weird how the most powerful man on earth a) gets his intel directly from Fox News and b) doesn’t seem to know how to use a phone if he wants to call up his Attorney General and complain about something?
    – don’t make me read anything or take the time to ask questions
    – just talk at me and tell me what I want to hear, what I already know, or whatever will satisfy my inner rageaholic’s need for another excuse to tee off
    – then hand me my phone so that I can make my multiple-times-daily attempt to humiliate someone on social media, while giving 7 billion people yet another glimpse into my fragile psyche

    I swear Fox programming is designed to constantly stoke unhealthy levels of fear and anger. It’s nuts.

  72. 72
    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Let me know when he challenges him to a duel.

    I insist that it be with muzzle loaded cannons full of grapeshot at 10 paces.

  73. 73
    patrick II says:

    @Jeffro:
     

    Aren’t you supposed to have honor and integrity to begin with?

    Not if you work for Trump — it gets you fired.

  74. 74
    JPL says:

    DALTON, Ga. – Just five days after a report about Georgia’s safest school districts was released, a teacher was taken into police custody after a shot was fired at a local high school.

  75. 75
    LAO says:

    @PJ: great questions. I have no idea because I am not a real estate. At one point, if I recall correctly, the Kushners’ wanted to re-finance and Vorando stood in their way. Its really fucked up and 666 has been terrible deal from the beginning. I have no idea, who thinks this idiot is a genius…

  76. 76
    Brachiator says:

    @Jay S:

    Only a good teacher with a gun can stop a bad teacher with a gun

    Arming the administrators and students is the obvious solution. The problem resolution would be glorious.

    Janitors and school nurses should be armed as well, and could arbitrate the teacher/administrator conflicts.

    Lunch room ladies should have small pistols in their hairnets.

  77. 77
    Amir Khalid says:

    This was one of the most obvious objections to the idea of arming teachers: they work a high-stress job in addition to facing stress in their daily lives like everyone else, and what if a teacher is the one to snap?

    Open Thread: per the BBC, the mayor of Liverpool is complaining that the Premier League has Liverpool FC at home to Bournemouth on Saturday, April 14, minutes after the Grand National on the same afternoon. He says two major sports events in the city so close in time will severely strain the Mersey Police’s capacity to provide security. (The EPL did not have the option of making it a Sunday match: Liverpool haven’t been scheduled to play on April 15 since the Hillsborough disaster on that day in 1989.)

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    bystander says:

    When a New Yorker hears “Dalton School” we think upper east aside private, very exclusive prep school. Sorry, Daltonians wherever you are.

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    bemused says:

    @Jeffro:

    Me too. Something evilly creative.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    Hey, assholes, the problem is people WITH GUNS.

  81. 81
    Corner Stone says:

    @LAO:

    I have no idea because I am not a real estate.

    Don’t you think you should incorporate so you can get some of that sweet, sweet corporate taxscam money.

  82. 82
    Mike in DC says:

    Well, that nutty idea just went up in smoke.

  83. 83
    Spanky says:

    Cult worship meets cult worship:

    NEWFOUNDLAND, Pa. — Hundreds of worshippers clutching AR-15 rifles drank holy wine and exchanged wedding vows in a commitment ceremony at a Pennsylvania-based church.

    The event Wednesday morning at the World Peace and Unification Sanctuary led a nearby school to cancel classes.

    The Rev. Sean Moon leads the church. He said in a prayer that God gave people the right to bear arms. Moon is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church, often described as a cult.

    The sanctuary believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the book of Revelation, and encouraged couples to bring the weapons to the ceremony. An AR-15 was used in the Florida high school massacre.

    Outside the church a protester held a sign calling the group an “armed cult.”

    A bride with her AR-15 and her crown. pic.twitter.com/VQBy0HV82s
    — Jason Nark (@JasonNark) February 28, 2018

    This man has a crown of bullets. pic.twitter.com/Delutq3bvd
    — Jason Nark (@JasonNark) February 28, 2018

  84. 84
    p.a. says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    … major issue here – why is there lobster next to that pot of meatballs? WTF?

    Was planning surf & turf but the lobster broke their budget.
    Fall River surf & turf: stuffie and a hotdog.

  85. 85
    Amir Khalid says:

    @LAO:
    “Owning 100% of a bad investment is better than owning 66%.” I am also not a real estate, and this logic doesn’t make sense to me either.

  86. 86
    Kelly says:

    One of my high school history teachers is a gun collector of the old style. He is also one of my dear departed father’s hunting buddies. He once spiced up a lecture on a Revolutionary War battle by firing his flintlock pistol in his classroom. This was not well received by the administration but he got off with a few stern lectures including one in front of the school board.

  87. 87
    VOR says:

    As a Cold War kid, we had the threat of thermonuclear annihilation hanging over our heads. Fortunately we were taught to crawl under our wooden desks to shield from H bombs. It was sort of an abstract fear because if something happened you would be dead almost too fast to react. In contrast, the kids today have a very real, very concrete fear that at any moment someone could burst into their classroom and fire 100 rounds.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    The teachers who actually want guns are probably the last people who should have them.

  89. 89
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Spanky: Sometimes I think this entire “freedom of religion” thing without some modifications (no tax exemptions, for one thing) is just not a very good idea.

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    bemused says:

    A Dalton, Ga student said her favorite teacher barricaded himself in his classroom and just started shooting. She ended with “I dare you to say arming teachers is safe.”

  91. 91
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    And people who want to carry guns shouldn’t be teachers.

  92. 92
    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @bemused: Marco Rubio to the kid: “Hold my beer.”

  93. 93
    scav says:

    @Mike in DC: Nah, see it was those evil teacher’s unions again, false flag! false Soros-funded Demoncrat Un-merkan leader of children astray through Marxismist hater of liberty out to steal our guuuunz teacher, can’t trust the buggers unlike the random necessarily patriot guys with semi-automatics wandering outside.

    And2.0: Aren’t white lies all lies told by (the correct sort of) white guys?

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    LAO says:

    @Corner Stone:
    @Amir Khalid:

    All right, all right, all right. I actually meant to say “I am not a real estate mogul.” Although, at this point, I might not even be real.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Kelly:

    I’ve seen enough “Mythbusters” to know that you can make a big bang with a flintlock without needing to put an actual bullet in it.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Did you see this?

    Republican Alaska Rep. Don Young: “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

    Kyle Griffin’s Twitter thread here

  97. 97
    bemused says:

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Pretty much. I really don’t know how Rubio and all the rest of these heartless creatures sleep well.

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    Kelly says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep, just wadding. Black powder makes a lot of smoke to.

  99. 99
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    “Owning 100% of a bad investment is better than owning 66%.” I am also not a real estate, and this logic doesn’t make sense to me either.

    It makes perfect sense if you’re going to sell it to a shell buyer who won’t stand up to the kind of scrutiny an actual business partner would demand. With Jared, it could be either a Russian oligarch or a Chinese oligarch — he’s not picky! 🙄

  100. 100
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Kelly:

    You do have to be careful where you point the wadding, though. Jan-Michael Vincent and Brandon Lee both found that out the hard way. 😥

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    bemused says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    OMG. I had to read that to see when he said it…just a week ago. I don’t just want these people voted out of office. I want them all sent to high security institutions for the criminally insane.

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    EBT says:

    @Villago Delenda Est: Tax exemption isn’t even in the Constitution. It’s factually part of the IRS codes, and could be changed super goddamned easily.

    Imagine the catholic and mormon churches being forced to pay taxes on their opulent holdings.

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    trollhattan says:

    @LAO:
    But can you ski moguls?

    I would actually take up skiing if I could ski over Kush’s head.

  104. 104
    rikyrah says:

    @Jeffro:

    I see Marco Rubio done got himself all wound up on Twitter that Dem lawmakers were – get this – meeting to discuss how to use gun safety as one of their issues in the upcoming elections. Can you imagine a political party organizing on how to advocate for one side of the gun issue? Unbelievable!!

    yet, little Marco had nothing to say when the OTHER SENATOR FROM HIS STATE WAS NOT INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER THE SHOOTING IN HIS STATE.

  105. 105
    Corner Stone says:

    @LAO: Hey, I thought I deserve some credit by not going with the “rent or lease” bad joke that first came to mind.

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    Aleta says:

    @Jeffro: And just like that, the whole “arm the teachers” thing goes up in a puff of (gun) smoke…NEXT!

    ha ha dream on. : )

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    Kelly says:

    @Mnemosyne: He’s a good guy. Taught my Hunter’s Safety class back when that was the sort of thing the NRA was about.

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    bemused says:

    Open thread so I read today that PBS will have a conservative leaning political show taking it’s cue from Wm Buckley’s “Firing Line” moderated by Michael Gerson and Amy Holmes starting in April. Yeah, we desperately need more conservative views.

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    Mandalay says:

    No love here for Dick’s?…

    One of the nation’s largest sports retailers, Dick’s Sporting Goods, said Wednesday morning it was immediately ending sales of all assault-style rifles in its stores.

    The retailer also said that it would no longer sell high-capacity magazines and that it would not sell any gun to anyone under 21 years of age, regardless of local laws…

    As of Wednesday morning, the company said all AR-15s and other semiautomatic rifles would be removed from its stores and websites…

    “The whole hunting business is an important part of our business, and we know there is going to be backlash on this,” said Mr. Stack [Dick’s CEO]. “But we’re willing to accept that.”

    He added, “If the kids in Parkland are being brave enough to stand up and do this, we can be brave enough to stand up with them.”

    That’s pretty ballsy of them.

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    LAO says:

    @trollhattan: I am a mogul free zone in every possible definition. I’m now fairly certain that Jared’s going to go to jail, so no need to ski over him.

    @Corner Stone: What held you back? Are you feeling ok today?

    Quick, anyone available for home check on Corner Stone?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Mandalay: Mistermix’s thread on the subject from this morning not good enough for you?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Mandalay: mistermix did a whole post on it earlier today and it has been mentioned in every thread since it announced, IIRC.

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    MuckJagger says:

    @Jay S: Personally, I think we should arm teachers.

    And janitors.

    And the cafeteria ladies. You never know what kind of trouble can be stirred up by a food fight.

    Might as well arm the bus drivers too, because if there’s one thing we’ve all learned from Hollywood, is that criminals and terrorists *love* to hijack buses.

    We probably should consider arming the librarians as well, especially if the student library has l-i-b-e-r-a-l books.

    Maybe even some of the older students at shop, because those guys use a *lot* of dangerous stuff.

    But I draw the line at Vice-Principals. Those guys are nuts.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @LAO: I just had my flu shot and think I’m coming down with the flu.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Kelly:

    I took one of those, too! My dad bragged until the day he died that I outscored all of the adult men I took the course with. I was actually paying attention as they explained how not to die of hypothermia while deer hunting.

    I was a pretty good shot with the .22 rifle, too.

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    Mike in NC says:

    @Brachiator: The lunch room ladies could carry one- or two-shot derringers in their hair nets. Perfect weapon to go up against a nut with an assault rifle with a 30 round magazine.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @MuckJagger:

    But I draw the line at Vice-Principals. Those guys are nuts.

    Those guys always want to be known as the hardass, trying to prove they’ve got the chops to be tough on crime…err, kids. It’s like they are all trying to out macho Hillary Clinton or some shit.

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    Kelly says:

    @Mnemosyne: I was reliable with a rifle, very inconsistent with a hand gun and way too slow hunt birds with a shotgun. Way too slow for clay pigeons to.

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    Doug R says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Frontpagers and commenters, please make a practice of identifying a site you link to, at least if the site imposes a monthly cap on how many stories a non-subscriber may read for free. Among the news sites that do this are Slate, The New York Times, and The Washington Post, all of which are frequently linked to from here. These may be got around by those who know how, but it helps to have the warning.

    In Chrome->Settings->search->cookies->Keep local data only until you quit your browser
    Then when you get the warning, close your browser.
    Or right click on the link on BJ and open Firefox->paste and go
    You should have Firefox set to delete cookies on exit as well.
    I find it a decent compromise to keep targeted ads away as well.

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    Mandalay says:

    @Corner Stone: Ah, gotcha…

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Doug R: Or people could just say where the link goes. I try to when it’s Politico or HuffPo or something else that should be looked at with one eyebrow raised. I almost never link to NYT or WaPo because I consciously avoid their sites.

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    EmbraceYourInnerCrone says:

    @Mandalay: I believe Dick’s did this right after Sandy Hook happened too, and then started selling them again after a little while, so I am less than impressed…

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    Another Scott says:

    @PJ: Presumably if Vornado sells its 49.5% stake in the building for, say, $10M, then Javanka is going to be hurting a lot more (since his 50.5% would also be worth $10M) than if he pays what they want with some handwaving argument about “I’ll redevelop it and it’ll be bigly great, just you wait!!!1”.

    He’s mortgaged to the hilt. If the value of the place collapses even further, his banks will likely call his loans or make him go into receivership or something. He loses his chance to be rich then.

    Nobody wants the place because they bought at the top of a bubble, and even then overpaid. That’s why nobody but Javanka is interested. And he has to be interested, and pretty much pay what they want, or he’s doomed.

    I’m no expert, but that’s my guess as to what’s going on.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Another Scott: The only cash flow Jar Jar has is from his slumlord apartment complexes and the intelligence secrets he’s been selling. He was doomed when the deal appeared too crooked even for Chinese bank AnBang.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @EmbraceYourInnerCrone: The CEO made it clear today that these changes are permanent.

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    Kay says:

    @Another Scott:

    I agree. During the financial crash we couldn’t understand why banks wouldn’t “cram down” mortgages. Sure they would take a hit but it would be a smaller hit than having everyone underwater.

    But they couldn’t because that would be an admission that the property was worth less then they lent on it which they means they have all that unsecured debt.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Kay: They also knew they would be getting 100 cents on the dollar when the govt came knocking.

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    Aleta says:

    @Jeffro:

    eta Just speculating, but I think the end game to ‘let’s arm the teachers’ is the same game that radical conservative libertarians were playing before. A lot more tax money to online classes and to voucher/’christian’/private enterprise schools. (The smaller ones depend on some online courses already.)

    Concurrent with the goal of more job opportunities for the gun equipped, so that purchasing and training roll into a viable career choice. More growth for rifle ranges, gun accessory companies, shops, trainers and courses, and security guards. Bigger share of family entertainment centers. So that guns become even more integrated into the economy.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Corner Stone:

    The only cash flow Jar Jar has is from his slumlord apartment complexes

    An occasional reminder of exactly who and what the child-king is, is necessary to not get distracted by his seemingly harmless be-blazered pencil-neck persona.
    Jared Kushner’s firm seeks arrest of Maryland tenants to collect debt

    This, more than anything else is his connection to dear old dad-in-law.

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    PJ says:

    @Kay: My understanding is that it is illegal to have cramdown provisions in residential mortgages (at least where they are principal residences.) The banks weren’t worried about unsecured debt – they knew, or simply didn’t care, that many of these properties were overvalued or in some cases nonexistent, and that many mortgagors were unable to make payments at 30, 60 or 90 days, or again, did not exist at all. The problem was that if they acknowledged this, the value of the mortgage-backed securities they were selling would drop (and eventually no one would buy them), and that was where they were making the real money.

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    cain says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Republican Alaska Rep. Don Young: “How many Jews were put in the ovens because they were unarmed?”

    Jeezus – the stupidity.. it burns

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Stock market says “meh”.

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    cwmoss says:

    @EBT: Tax exempt status comes from the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Yep.

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    les says:

    @trollhattan:

    This, more than anything else is his connection to dear old dad-in-law.

    To say nothing of dear old dad.

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    Hellbastard says:

    Watching Trump’s round-table on gun safety. He actually made an astute political observation. When Scalise tried to piggy-back reciprocal concealed carry on the gun control bill Trump nixed the idea, he (accurately) pointing out that any gun control bill with that sort of amendment attached would never pass.

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    Johnnybuck says:

    I went to college with Randall, the alleged. I have to say that it doesn’t surprise me really.

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    Tokyokie says:

    @The Lodger: Dalton, Ga., is the center of the carpet-making industry in the United States. It’s in Georgia, but it’s basically an outlying suburb of Chattanooga.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Aleta: Maybe, but I think the more likely culprit is “too many action movies” + “small minds trying to come up with a solution, ANY solution, that doesn’t involve restrictions on gun ownership”

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    Kay says:

    @PJ:

    The problem was that if they acknowledged this, the value of the mortgage-backed securities they were selling would drop (and eventually no one would buy them), and that was where they were making the real money.

    Well, right, because the securities were backed by the mortgage which were backed by the property. If they admitted the house had more debt than possible value the whole scheme falls apart, because the mortgage isn’t backed by anything, which means the security isn’t backed by anything.

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    Jamey says:

    @Jeffro: Okay, a few things: It’s a modern sports rifle, not an assault weapon. Also, it’s not a clip; it’s a magazine. Lastly, Obama should have investigated Russia.

    Therefore, everybody but the NRA is to blame for everything.

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    woodrowfan says:

    some of the righties are already claiming that “someone” paid the teacher to do this so we would not arm teachers.

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    ohthatguy says:

    If we just close the schools, none of this would happen

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