Late Evening Topical Musical Open Thread

And the original.

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    Our shittiest states, in no particular order: Missouri, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Delaware, Indiana, Wyoming

    @ me bro

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    Another Scott says:

    EFG will be happy. :-)

    ‘night all. Rest easy and be read to keep up the fight.


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    there’s a song out there, “Gun” by John Cale, but the Sioxsie and the Banshees version IHMO was better:

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    eemom says:

    Should have included Guns n’ Roses. Who also covered Knockin’ on Heavens Door.

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    Pete Downunder says:

    That really didn’t sound like Bob Dylan, voice too good.

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    Mike J says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I’d put Mississippi at the top of the list. South Carolina would probably go in there somewhere too.

    MO has St Louis which is solidly liberal. People tell me KC is good too, but I’ve only ever driven through.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Mississippi and Alabama should be 1 and 2.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @PaulWartenberg: Cale’s original was so much better.*

    *Proto-hipster commenting,

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    @Adam L Silverman: Mississippi (and for that matter Ohio) too obvious, and Alabama deserves some slack for election Doug Jones

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Pete Downunder: That was strange. I just changed it out with a different one that I know is Dylan.

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    guachi says:

    Delaware has no sales tax. It can’t possibly be on a list of worst states.

    Also, for gun control afficianados CNN has a poll out showing gun control at or near record highs for all questions CNN asked.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @eemom: I thought about that, but decided to go with more classic versions.

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    @guachi: Chait’s case is indispensable

    Plus Wilmington is the new Camden and opioids are out of control

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    James E. Powell says:

    Mama said the pistol was The Devil’s Right Hand.

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    Jay S says:

    @PaulWartenberg: @eemom: Wait a gol durned minute. I thought this post was to get away from guns? ETA now I see that Adam started it.
    Thanks Adam, your take on the automatic Booman? unit random post generator as a musical interlude is a reasonable riff off my random headline proposal. ETA now we can fight about guns and music.

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    Mary G says:

    Just got home from Black Panther and dinner out. Fight scenes bore me, but I did enjoy Michael B. Jordan shirtless. Story is really layered and we talked about it all the way through dinner. Art direction, cinematography, and costumes are amazing. Go if you are on the fence. Shuri is going to need her own movie spinoff.

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    James E. Powell says:

    The Body Electric by Hooray for the Riff Raff

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    Wag says:

    For my money the best cover version of Knockin’ is by Warren Zevon on his final album, The Wind.

    Which, by the way, is the greatest collection of songs about wrestling with mortality ever done.

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    MomSense says:

    Weird, my comment disappeared. Anyway here are two more topical songs.

    Whiskey In My Whiskey

    And the oldie 3220 blues

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    guachi says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    LOL. He masturbates about stuff from 200 years ago and tolls (OMG!!! TOLLS!!!!) for half his tirade. Then the best part, and I eagerly anticipated it coming, was to actually attack Delaware for no sales tax. Apparently sales taxes, which disproportionately affect the poor, are a good thing now!

    Chait can go suck it.

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    NotMax says:

    No knock whatsoever intended or implied on the artist performing, however the title is pure R/CPAC/[insert choice of font of right wing villainy here].

              I Want To Be Evil

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Mary G: Is Michael B. Jordan different from the athlete Michael Jordan?

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    NotMax says:

    If we’re talking topical….


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    Achrachno says:

    Interesting lines from the Tull song:

    “I am the peacemaker, so the theory goes.
    But I don’t choose the company I keep and it shows.”

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    @WaterGirl: He played the main character in Coogler’s other two films, Fruitvale Station and Creed (which unfortunately I haven’t seen), as well as the Human Torch in that piece of shit Fant4stic (which unfortunately I have seen, because I was hoping it to be a hilarious trainwreck).

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @MomSense: Went into spam for some reason.

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    frosty says:

    @guachi: Delaware has no sales tax because it has the I-95 toll taxing every traveller between DC and NYC. Leave it on the list for that alone.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Achrachno: This is one of my favorite Tull songs. I’m also partial to this one:

    Always reminded me of this old Disney show:

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    guachi says:

    It gets a mere 6% of its tax revenue from the toll. That’s not why it doesn’t have a sales tax.

    So Delaware taxes out-of-staters to give a tax break that benefits the poor more than the rich. The monsters!!!!

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    Jay S says:

    @Jay S: I swear I read the title as Tropical and not Topical and just assumed the titles were for something Island-ish. I rarely play the music posted here. As my penance I submit this: How to bring it

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Fruitvale Station was excellent.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @WaterGirl: Yes. He’s an actor, a good one.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Mike J: Yeah, not sure at all what this song is actually about, and the video does not clarify, but it has memorable lyrics about an orbital gun…

    It’s Hooverphonic’s 2 Wicky, in case you want to know before you click.

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    NotMax says:

    Adam, you do realize that each additional video embedded slows down the page refresh a bit more?

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    Amir Khalid says:

    Yes. Michael B. is younger and shorter.

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    Mike J says:

    @Lyrebird: I am always down for funky nerdcore.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: I did not.

    This is clearly Alain’s fault. And I will make sure he receives a sternly worded text message in the morning!

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    PJ says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): @guachi: Chait comes across as a centrist tool in his writing for New York magazine (notably consistently shilling for charter schools, and often not disclosing that his wife is an executive at one of the largest charter school chains), and this piece reinforces his cherry picking argumentation to support his own self-interest. He notes the state’s racist past (how many states are immune from this?), its pro-corporate and banking laws (but New York is ok because reasons), but his real beef is with having to pay a toll on I-95 (which can easily be avoided with a 5 minute detour at the exits before and after the toll). He is personally inconvenienced, so the state must be evil. (He also claims the state has no gas tax, which, as an editor notes, is false). He is the personification of the pundit, like Andrew Sullivan, whose personal interests and grievances are of paramount importance and anyone else’s concerns are irrelevant.

    Delaware has its share of ugly history and places, but it also has nice beaches, some beautiful countryside, and gave us Tom Verlaine.

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    @Wag: I bought it when it came out, then wouldn’t listen to it for a long time because I expected it to depress the hell out of me. When I finally listened to it, it actually had the opposite effect — it was like he left behind this beautiful, life-affirming gift.

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    maeve says:

    Michael B. Jordan (the actor, not the basketball player) was one of the best things about Black Panther – totally villainous but you could see where he was coming from – his last line was devastating (bury me in the ocean … ) not quoting the whole thing because of spoilers.

    Just saw BP after it was sold out last weekend.

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    jl says:

    I haven’t seen this news item mentioned in recent BJ posts or comment threads on guns, but I may have missed it. I think a subtext to the Bloomberg story, and others that I have read, is that the gun and ammo industries are far down the road of drug dealers and big tobacco, or cults that have tie-ins to marketing ploys (Alex Jones probably a good example).

    Remington Is Planning to File for Bankruptcy
    By Eliza Ronalds-Hannon and Polly Mosendz. Bloomberg.
    February 12, 2018
    ” The company’s fortunes took a hit after the election of Donald Trump, a self-proclaimed “true friend” of the gun industry, because Hillary Clinton’s defeat erased fears among gun enthusiasts about losing access to weapons. Sales plummeted, and retailers stopped re-ordering as they found themselves stuffed with unsold inventory. ”

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    rikyrah says:

    @Mary G:



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    rikyrah says:

    Yes, and, no, they are not related.

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    Achrachno says:

    @NotMax: Must be a slight effect. I’d not noticed. It’s worth it anyway, isn’t it?

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    Achrachno says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks for putting these up. Good to be reminded.

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    @PJ: I mostly don’t like Chait either, but promoted the piece in recognition of its pettiness

    Which, if you think about it, is the entire point of telling Arizona et al. that they can/should be sold to Honduras

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    NotMax says:


    Nothing demeaning about using a link the same as we peons.

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    eemom says:

    @Pete Downunder:
    @Adam L Silverman:

    I believe there are some recordings where Dylan’s voice is “adjusted” in some tech way to make it sound better than it is. Lay Lady Lay is a prominent example. Can’t stand to listen to it for that reason.

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    Wag says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): I want the song Please Stay to be played at my funeral.

    “Will you stay with me to the end?
    When there’s nothing left
    But you and me and the wind”

    Some of the most beautiful lines ever written, in my opinion.

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    maeve says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Scarecrow (SCARECOW) is one of the songs from my childhood. I believe it is one of the songs that my sister and I used to use when cheating at Hearts (the card game). There were 4 of us – the perfect number for card games – hearts was our favorite) – recently moved to a new location in a hot humid summer in downstate iIlinois the weather of which we were not used to – didn’t know other kids so were reduced to playing cards in the cinderblock storeroom which was at least a little cooler – my sister (one year older) and I were not exactly challenged by my 2 brothers (3 and 5 years younger) so resorted to cheating like mad to make it interesting. We’d use songs to indicate which suite we wanted to pass from one to the other in our toes. I know “Secret Agent Man” was one – and just from the fact that I remember the lyrics I think “Scarecrow – scarecrow – the soldiers of the king knew his name” might have been one.

    (A year or two later we named our cat “John Henry” after the Smothers Brothers song but that is a different story.)

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    Achrachno says:

    @NotMax: Demeaning? I don’t understand. The way Adam does it is convenient for us peons, no?

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    NotMax says:


    In remembrance of seeing that pesky queen of spades played.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Just for that we expect you to make bricks tomorrow without being provided with straw.//

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    Baron Elmo says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Agreed and then some. Siouxsie’s version better than John Cale’s!? Surely you jest. The Cale version features one of the great head-frying guitar solos of all time — played by Phil Manzanera, tweaked by Brian Eno while Phil laid it down.

    Another great firearm song: Steely Dan’s “With a Gun.”

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    Should have included Guns n’ Roses. Who also covered Knockin’ on Heavens Door.

    As long as that song is not included. Axl’s vocals ruin it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Achrachno: He’s ribbing me. No worries.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @James E. Powell:

    Mama said the pistol was The Devil’s Right Hand.

    One of my all time favorite songs. Webb Wilder did a great version of it too.

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    Beautifulplumage says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I listened, but this is so not my style of music. Rap hits my ears like bad poetry slamming over found music. I’m an old fashioned rock & and roller. I do appreciate exploring, though, so thanks.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    Wilmington is the new Camden and opioids are out of control

    Bullshit. Camden has a riverfront and nothing else. Wilmington has its share of drugs, but most of the city is perfectly safe. Delaware has a completely Democratic delegation to Washington, supported single sex unions before it was the law of the land, and has one of the most progressive tax structures in the country.

    ETA: and it’s not our fault Chait doesn’t know how to shunpike.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Just put in links like the mere mortals.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    (runs off to check whether Amazon sells bricks)

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    I just got a very nice rejection letter for my story, from a Very Serious Magazine.

    Thank you for sending us [story]. We really enjoyed this piece, but we didn’t feel it was right for [the publication].

    We hope that you will continue to send us your work.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    Not to overlook the obvious, if you’re talking about music and guns you have to dive into the heart of Crackro-America.

    Lynyrd Skynyrd, “Saturday Night Special.”

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    Beautifulplumage says:

    @ChristianPinko: nice, hadn’t heard that one before. Love Johnette’s voice.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    Nothing to do with guns except for the band’s name, but why didn’t I think of this when we are discussing power pop ballads the other night: 38 Special, “Hold on Loosely.”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Make sure you use the dohickey button so Cole get’s something that never trickles down to the rest of us.

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    Mike J says:

    @Bobby Thomson: Also, I have a corp or two there.

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    MisterForkbeard says:

    @Major Major Major Major: That’s actually kind of encouraging. You have some more target magazines, right?

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    @MisterForkbeard: that one wasn’t even a target magazine, and yes, it’s a very positive rejection.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    Old-school: Marty Robbins, “Big Iron,” from the album titled (yes, really) Gunfighter Ballads and Trail Songs.

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    Beautifulplumage says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Congrats! Sounds very encouraging. Good luck finding a home for this story in another publication.

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    Bobby Thomson says:

    @Matt McIrvin: where’s Wallace?

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    HumboldtBlue says:

    For all the winks and smiles the knowing glances and eager display of identification to gain entrance, the weed at the new licensed shop is still weed.

    I smoke weed every day.

    I bet them Jeffro Tull boys smoked some weed.

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    I was amused by this,

    MAR 24 March for Our Lives-Gainesville Sat 11 AM EDT
    Bo Diddley Plaza Gainesville, FL

    because as soon as I saw it I remembered that “Bo Diddley Is A Gunslinger”.

    Bonus cover by The Gun Club. (Gotta maintain my L.A. street cred.)

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    Bruuuuce says:

    From one of the great parody groups, the Arrogant Worms, “Let There Be Guns”

    Vice versa, a serious take by the inimitable Fairport Convention, “John the Gun”

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Baron Elmo:

    For Steely Dan I gotta go with “Don’t Take Me Alive.”

    “Agents of the law, luckless pedestrians . . .”

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    Bruuuuce says:

    We lost Dave Carter way too soon, but before he left, he wrote some of the world’s great music. Here’s his ode to a gun. I’m never sure whether it’s admiring or afraid; I think that’s probably one of the reasons it’s such a good song. “41 Thunderer”

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    @HumboldtBlue: AFAF, of course (higher spiritual plane & all) but if you were a medical user prior, have you noticed any price differences ‘twixt the no-recommendation reefer & the reefer that requires a temple recommend?

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    Can’t find a suitable video on YouTube, but I’ll close with a mention of the Beatles’ “Happiness Is a Warm Gun.”

    I’m out. Gotta be up early for the dentist.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Amen. But I sometimes feel that way about all of their first six albums (and Fagen’s The Nightfly).

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Mike J:


    You made me go to YouTube again, and that made me think of Junior Walker & the All-Stars, “Shotgun.” Although I think he’s talking about legitimate hunting, so he’ll probably be given an exemption.

    Damn, and there’s “Hey, Joe” (many versions) and that Cher song where bang bang her baby shot her down. Must stop now.

    When we give up the guns we can go back to a “Poison Arrow.”

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @M. Bouffant:

    Jeez, when you see it written down like that, I’m not sure he could pass the psych test for possession. Good thing it’s got a good beat and it’s easy to dance to.

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    Fair Economist says:


    Rap hits my ears like bad poetry slamming over found music.

    Because that’s basically what most of it is. My son has gotten into making rap music and that’s literally what he and his friends do – rap atrocious poetry over samples.

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    opiejeanne says:

    @Adam L Silverman: We stumbled onto the church used in the Disney “Scarecrow of Romney Marsh” purely by accident while trying to find a different church on the same marsh but miles away. The pew boxes were painted a pale pink by Disney with the promise to paint them back to white when they finished filming but the parishioners decided they liked the pink and decided to keep it. The pink “reads” better than white on film.

    St Clements of Romney Marsh

    Church interior

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    DHD says:

    Maybe too literal but obligatory:

    Gang Starr – Tons of guns

    (caution, contains rap music)

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    manyakitty says:

    @eemom: Also, too, Warren Zevon, “Lawyers, Guns, and Money” and he also covered “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door.”

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    manyakitty says:

    @Wag: So much yes. Did you see the VH1 special about making that album? Worth watching.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Wag: “Keep Me in Your Heart” brings me to tears every time.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Major Major Major Major: That’s a sight more encouraging than many rejection letters. Not bad!

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    J R in WV says:

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    No Mississippi??? NO Alabama!??!?

    No West Virginia, that’s right. Beautiful, friendly, good eats, white water, mountain trails, wild flowers.

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    catatonia says:

    Gotta bring Waits into the conversation: “!6 Shells from a Thirty-Ought Six”

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