North Korea Has A Parade

Another live event starts at around 7:30 Eastern time. In honor of (or to upstage) the start of the Winter Olympics in South Korea, North Korea will parade some of its military might. Wonks love this, because North Korea frequently uses their military parades to show off new missiles. Or, with screen caps and close examination, the wonks can learn details of existing missiles.

We don’t know what tonight’s (Friday’s in North Korea) parade will bring. If there’s a live feed, I’ll update this post with it.

A number of experts on North Korean missiles usually tweet their comments on the parades. Here’s a good list to start:

@nktpnd

@annafifield

@wslafoy

@mhanham

@ArmsControlWonk

@atomic_pickles

@ISNJH

@KelseyDav

@DaveSchmerler

@grace_c_liu

Don’t forget the hashtag.

I’m not a missile expert, but I occasionally add something to the discussion. I’ll post tweets with trenchant comments or interesting pictures in the comments.

Here’s a photo from an earlier parade. I’m sure the White House and the Joint Chiefs of Staff will be watching to help plan the next big military parade in Washington.

 

Update: I am told that the parade will be streamed on this channel or on YouTube, although there doesn’t seem to be a way to embed it. Livestream from North Korea breaks up regularly.  So don’t blame me.

If Adam shows up and can figure out how to embed the video, please feel free to edit this post.

 

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    Wapiti says:

    Looks like a few hundred thousand people wearing pink knitted hats there.

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    debbie says:

    “Your button may be bigger than mine, but the size of my parade grounds is much yuuuger than yours!”

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    Baud says:

    As president, I will establish America’s first official national dog parade.

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    Oh goody, a parade.

    ETA: …and doughnuts!

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Wapiti:
    Are you sure they aren’t just holding up doughnut boxes?

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    Brachiator says:

    I hear that Elon Musk was invited to do a fly by riding Falcon Heavy….

    Is it time for the Olympics already? I have not been keeping up with regular tv.

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    Baud says:

    @Brachiator: Curling has started. You can stream it live right now.

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    I’m getting in the spirit of the Olympics and Kim Jong Un’s parade by having Korean food tonight.

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    Baud says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Same here except I’m doing it by executing my uncle by feeding him to dogs.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Brachiator: Opening ceremony Friday

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    The Dangerman says:

    If Raven comes around tonight:

    Damn, Dude

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    Mike in NC says:

    Back in the 50s and 60s, during their May Day parades the Soviets would fly a formation of new aircraft over and over in circles to exaggerate the numbers they had.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Baud: But then you have to eat the dogs.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:
    That wouldn’t have anything to do with being married to a Korean American woman, would it?

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    Baud says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I couldn’t eat dog. I guess I don’t have what it takes to be a dictator.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @The Dangerman:

    If Raven comes around tonight:

    Fuck LBJ!

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    Brachiator says:

    @lamh36:

    Opening ceremony Friday

    I just have not been paying attention. Also, I have been anticipating the upcoming Black Panther movie and trying to avoid online Games of Throne spoilers. Priorities.

    And I have to work late on Friday. I will try to DVR it and watch some highlights.

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    Davebo says:

    Thanks Cheryl. Following all of them and I’ll be more informed thanks to you!

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    No parade yet.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    Baud says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Needs more dancing sharks.

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    Just One More Canuck says:

    I thought Kim was just trolling the Mar-a-Lago Fatberg with this parade

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    Baud says:

    @Just One More Canuck: Pretty head to put this together in a day.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    One comment from a Korean speaker that this is an hour-long documentary. If that’s the case (a lot of joking goes on during these things), then the parade should start in another half-hour. The North Koreans like to troll the folks who look obsessively at the photos they release. They blur the photos and photoshop them. So today they seem to be offering up an hour history lesson, DPRK-style.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Baud:
    THAT is real Leadership! BAUD FOR EMPEROR 2020

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Baud:
    The time I had it it had the taste & consistency of pork.
    It came with a lecture on how the people who had told them eating dogs was immoral also forced the at gunpoint to resume the opium trade which was killing people in their country.

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    Jay S says:

    Could we just build some special effects super weapons and a bunch of movie extras to parade for Trump? I would probably be cheaper and more effective than the real thing. Plus the more mysterious the fake weapons the more puzzled the enemy analysts will be.

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    Baud says:

    @Schlemazel: Interesting. So it’s the same taste as humans.

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    magurakurin says:

    @Baud: you can see the live stream but you can’t tell it from a still photo

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    Schlemazel says:

    FYWP is not letting me edit comments tonight

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Baud:
    Not sure, of all the creatures on earth I have never had any primate

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    dr. bloor says:

    In honor of (or to upstage) the start of the Winter Olympics in South Korea, North Korea will parade some of its military might.

    At least they didn’t take down a commercial airliner this time around.

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    mike in dc says:

    @Jay S: I suggest building a giant Voltron or Gundam robot.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    So it’s the same taste as humans.

    Human is fattier. And smells worse.

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    Jeffro says:

    I’m trying to think of the Top Ten, most out-in-the-open, why-isn’t-this-a-national-scandal things about the Trumpov admin, and this request for a DPRK-style parade isn’t even close. (No offense to Cheryl or any of the posters…I was just trying to think of it all, this past Year of Wonder we’ve been going through)

    In no particular order…
    10) Trumpov personally profiting every time he visits one of his own businesses (like his golf courses – with cart rentals, etc)
    9) The fact that he golfs every 4th day or so, and doesn’t bother to hit the office on the other days until 11am after several hours of “executive time”
    8) The fact that he jacked up golf club memberships at Mar-a-Lago “the winter white house” and sells Trumpov-endorsed merchandise, sometimes through ‘official’ channels
    7) The fact that he a) paid off a b) porn star to c) keep quiet about their affairs d) that he had shortly after the birth of his fifth kid with his third wife e) during the fucking campaign and f) was apparently one of ‘hundreds’ of women who were also paid off, g) possibly with campaign/legal defense funds
    6) Firing the FBI Director for not quashing an investigation into his/his campaign’s collusion with a hostile foreign power, and admitting it on national TV
    5) Attempting to intimidate Comey, McCabe, others – hell, the entire FBI – via the national media
    4) lauding the “very fine people” in Charlottesville
    3) allowing people like Jared Kushner and Robert Porter to handle classified materials on a daily basis when they don’t have the clearance
    2) giving away classified intelligence…to representatives of a hostile foreign power…IN. THE. OVAL. OFFICE.
    1) Letting Puerto Rico suffer without power and water, and berating its citizens in their darkest hours

    Several of the above are illegal and could/should/will? lead to charges. Several are part of the power of the presidency, but should come at a huge cost (and most certainly would never be tolerated if parties were reversed). And the last few are just utter dereliction of duty, with no real remedy save not re-electing this clown.

    Let’s have that ‘truth and reconciliation’ committee a.s.a.p. and then please FSM let’s try to put what we can in place so that this never happens again. Tumbrels as a last resort but not taking that off the table.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @mike in dc:
    Definitely a Gundam. Some of the Gundam models (e.g. RGM-79 GM) were actually designed for mass production to serve as part of an organized military. That’s a much better choice than a one-off like most mecha in anime.

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    Timurid says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Calm down, Hannibal.

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    MomSense says:

    @Baud: @Schlemazel: @TenguPhule:

    I think I’ll stick with hummus.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Looks like the documentary is ending.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Jeffro: You missed the missiles to nowhere in Syria and his African clusterfuck that killed some of our soldiers.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Timurid: I never said I actually ate it.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Notice that everyone is exactly the same height and shape.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Roger Moore: Could we just borrow the life sized Gundam from Tokyo and call it good?

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense: I like hummus.

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    Baud says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Stop trying to get us to feel better about life under Trump.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Jeffro: Dan Murphy has been listing stuff all day.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    said Putin wasn’t responsible for the murder of Russian dissident Alexander Litvinenko with Polonium-210 because he hadn’t been convicted of the killing in a court of law.

    /headdesk

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Yutsano:
    Honestly, I think Trump deserves a Guntank rather than something cool like a Gundam.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    It’s somehow comforting to know that even North Korea can’t always get a parade started on time.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: He stopped 6 minutes ago. I’m guessing it’s mental health break/whisky time.

    @Roger Moore: Yeah but we would (probably) have to assemble the thing. This stupid parade is worth doing on the cheap.

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    Jeffro says:

    @TenguPhule: Not to discount those but I was going for the 10 biggest/things-that-should-have-every-American-rioting-in-the-streets.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: He must have a bit more time than me…the thought is the same. Would love to have the whole country arguing about which of his thousand outrages deserve a ‘top ten’ rating. It’s appalling.

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    chris says:

    @Jeffro: Good list but short. Here’s a really big one. Week 64 now and it goes all the way back to the beginning of the long national horror show.

    (Yes, it’s Amy Siskind. I know, right? But this is a valuable service.)

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    Jeffro says:

    I’m seeing stories that Netanyahu is about to get charged with bribery, and he’s warning his fanboys in advance?

    “Fake News!”

    “Rigged!”

    Can we just buy these clowns an island, ship them there, and be done with this? The world has much better things to do.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    This is possible.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Meanwhile, back in Washington…

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    Peale says:

    @TenguPhule: also cancelling the visas of hundreds of travelers mid flight, including green card holders, no matter where they had traveled

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    efgoldman says:

    @Jeffro:

    I’m trying to think of the Top Ten, most out-in-the-open, why-isn’t-this-a-national-scandal things about the Trumpov admin

    Unfortunately, most of these, while dishonest, stupid, self-aggrandizing and generally rotten, aren’t prosecutable.
    Same thing happened during Watergate: all kinds of things were discovered (enemies list, potentially using the IRS for political ends) which were stripped from, the final impeachment indictment so as not to muddy the waters.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Yutsano: Starting up again. Probably a whisky break.

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    Jay S says:

    @Yutsano: A squadron of Trumps invisible planes would be sweet.

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    Peale says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: wait what? Obama university?

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Peale: He’s framing it in the “What if Obama…” mode.

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    Baud says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Were they known for their punctuality?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Peale: looks like a “can you imagine if Obama did this?” thread

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Another sunset. We are at the end of another inspirational video. Whether the parade starts next is up for grabs.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Jeffro:

    Can we just buy these clowns an island, ship them there, and be done with this?

    From what I understand about Israeli/Likud politics, whoever replaces him, unless there are new elections or the coalition breaks down, will be every bit the asshole

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    Jeffro says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: It’s good to know in advance what tonight’s nightmares will look like, thanks so much!

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    Jeffro says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Sometimes it is the only way to puncture the ‘bubble’ when talking to Republicans or both-siders…or just to keep one’s own self suitably outraged…by picturing how of-the-hook the RWNJs would be at any single one of these things.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Baud: Like any other dictatorship, the Kim family makes the parades run on time. This is really an extraordinary delay, unless they are trolling their wonky audience. But some of that audience have better connections into North Korea sometimes, so they will tell us if indeed the parade is happening while we are being fed propaganda and joking among ourselves. Haven’t heard anything from them.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    It’s acting funky for me too when I try to embed it. I’ve got Alain looking into it. Please stand by.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    dmsilev says:

    @Jeffro: I’d suggest a B Ark. SpaceX has this shiny new rocket…

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

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    Jay S says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: We can not afford to have a phony missile gap! The fake Trump parade must go on! ETA bigger and better fake missiles, fantasy weapons, invisible planes.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    In past parades, analysts have wondered if the missiles are real or are mockups. Close examination of news photos has indicated that some seem to be mockups. News reporters are highly restricted at this parade.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    so this should be in the trump’s hair thread down below but I’m a fucking rebel, so…

    Howard Gewirtz @ howard_gewirtz
    The picture is what happens after a badly done hair transplant. There’s a scar left where the donor hair came from that produces that bald spot. VERY common and ALWAYS the result of poor transplantation.
    Briar @ nethersky
    It is a microcylinder weave. An elaborate process costing $60k and then it must be reworked when the hair grows out to tighten it. The orange tone of his hair is the human donor hair which is typically sourced from Asia which does not bleach well. If you look closely, he is gray.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: $60 k and yet it still looks fake and horrible. Sad.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That is way more than I ever wanted to know about the subject.

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    Jager says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Probably stiffed the doc who did the transplant.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    As every half-hour increment approaches, hope builds in the wonk community that North Korean tv will switch from propaganda videos to the parade.

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    jl says:

    Oh geez. I’m sure another commenter mentioned this but no time to go through all 80 something. It’s too damn close to Trump planning his own big military parade. He’ll want one bigger and better and longer. From what I hear about soldiers’ enthusiasm for humongous and lengthy parade ground exercises like this, might cause some mutinies.

    Edit: can we make a plea to NK to call it off or downsize it? And if Trump gets too ticked off, I don’t want WWIII over parade drill envy.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Mike in NC: Yup. Bomber Gap – Aviation Day Deception.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Gin & Tonic: and more than trump ever wanted known, I’m sure. That’s why this makes me chuckle. I can’t imagine he isn’t aware of the word buzzing around the twitterverse

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Alain just got back to me and says:

    Something is way fucked up and I’m scared of touching a thing.

    I’m not sure what’s going on with that link. I tried the url as well and then tried iframe and when I do that, it shows me the bj site front page which makes no sense.

    Sorry!

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    From someone in Pyongyang. Looks like another hour. I’m gonna do something else, will return later. Maybe I’ll put up another thread to continue the essential discussion of Trump’s botched hair transplant.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    @Adam L Silverman: North Korean video is strange.

    ETA: Thanks to you and Alain for trying.

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    Thor Heyerdahl says:

    Saw this on Twitter about Trump’s dream weaver hair and thought of our blogmaster and Steve

    “He looks like a shaved cat’s ass.”
    https://twitter.com/FeralNegress/status/961407465333186560

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    Jay S says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I can’t see anything current in the Gewirtz twitter timeline. Here’s a 2017 article with some divorce testimony. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-hair-mystery-solved-he-had-scalp-reduction_us_58966965e4b061551b3dff8a

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    jl says:

    Saw a clip via Josh Marshall’s twitter that his central casting generals are not overly enthusiastic about the biggest most terrific classiest best ever military parade just for Trump and his buddies. Trump’s central casting generals went low energy on him.

    Not surprising though. The clip said that the military does rather more prosaic versions of these big parades periodically anyway around he country on military facilities. Maybe they can fly Trump around to a few of them, and tell him the thing is so damn big that they can’t fit it into DC?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Jay S: I got that from Josh Marshall’s feed, I may have misattributed something while trying to clean up all the links and whatnots

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    Jay S says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ah, it is a reply not a post. From here.ETA Anyway – should move to new topic where it isn’t a diversion.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Parade now supposed to start at midnight PST.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: No worries. Sorry we couldn’t make it work.

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    hueyplong says:

    Imagining the people who sold Trump that hair for $60,000. They’re laughing their asses off, saying, “What’s he gonna do, sue us? Imagine the discovery process, the things Trump would have to admit/allege in his complaint,” etc., etc.

    It’s kind of like how he treats his immigrant workers, except that we get a daily, visual reminder.

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    Bjacques says:

    Looks like the parade has begun. Here’s some leaked footage of the preparations as well:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O1B_rojs0fE

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