Legit laughed my ass off during this whole thing. Props to Eli and @OBJ_3 for sacrificing ego for the cause. #SuperBowl pic.twitter.com/xGzfI1wSeQ
— shauna (@goldengateblond) February 5, 2018
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Is “I only watch it for the ads” still a thing?
Apart from post-game recovery, what’s on the agenda for the start of another week?
Black people cant kneel and play football but MLK should be used to sell trucks during the super bowl. Unbelievable.
— Akilah Hughes (@AkilahObviously) February 5, 2018
OMG someone overlayed that ridiculous Dodge/MLK ad with what King actually said about capitalism and car commercials pic.twitter.com/9IB528mCyt
— Astead (@AsteadWesley) February 5, 2018
Bob Dylan updates "The Times They Are A-Changin'" for 2018 #FallonLIVE pic.twitter.com/qfCd4DGv3o
— Fallon Tonight (@FallonTonight) February 5, 2018
eclare
There should be consequences for the exec at Dodge and whoever at MLK’s estate approved this ad.
J R in WV
Bob Dylan. We are so lucky he’s still with us and still preaching with his music. But that was Jimmy Fallon, because I’ve seen Dylan recently, and he is no longer a young man. A good job Mr Fallon did, too.
And Ely and O’Dell Beckam, that was hilarious. All the team members were hilarious. and After such a good football game, too.
Good Morning eclaire, rickyrah, everyone. Now I’m going back to bed, in the middle of a very restless night. Thanks Annie Laurie!
eclare
@J R in WV: Good night! And yes, Eli and Odell were hilarious!
NotMax
What’s in a name?
rikyrah
Good Morning,Everyone ???
rikyrah
That Dirty Dancing commercial was hilarious
NotMax
FYI.
opiejeanne
@rikyrah: Good morning. I should be asleep right now but sleep will not come despite the cough syrup, which is really suppressing this cough. Maybe in a little while. It’s 2:39 where I am.
NotMax
How long before a Nunes memo blames this on Hillary?
Elizabelle
I wonder if Dodge considers it a win, because we are thinking of Ram trucks even though they egregiously misused MLK’s words.
Saw the reboot (with timely words on consumerism and advertising) before I saw Dodge’s literal white bread commercial. What a shambles it is. I’d like to hear some folks got fired for that one. And shame on the MLK Foundation.
We’d all be better off having MLK’s words out in the public sphere, as he spoke them, rather than wheeled out to sell cars and make his (in this case, horrible) heirs some moolah. Shame on them.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Here’s a photo of Drumpf prior to the start of his Super Bowl party. He looks pained, not happy. As if he’s about to be indicted for money laundering (photo)
rikyrah
@opiejeanne:
I know those rough nights with coughing fits.??
Hope that you get some sleep.
Mustang Bobby
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: He looks like he’s about to shit a peach pit.
Baud
@rikyrah: Good morning.
OzarkHillbilly
Don’t worry folks, Dense is on the job: Mike Pence to stop North Korea ‘hijacking’ Winter Olympics, aide says .
NotMax
@David Merry Christmas Koch
Gasp! No flag pin.
Mustang Bobby
Oh, cool; I just noticed that the coach in the red shirt in the Eli/Odell ad is Gary Lee Mahmoud, who was in the first production of my play “Can’t Live Without You” in New York in 2008. Way to go, Gary!
raven
Here’s a part of the chow I cooked for the game. We didn’t get as many people as said were coming so I have tons left over!
satby
@rikyrah: Good morning! Miss being in the same hemisphere as you all, we’re about to get on the tuk-tuk to go for some dinner.
My cold is back, 24/7 dust is probably why.
NotMax
@raven
I spy with my little eye an appliance starting with “I.”
raven
@NotMax: Yea, I made a “red gravy” base and then cooked the vegetarian offering in that. And Bohdi won the pool!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: I feel better already.
@Baud: Mornin’.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: How’s your’s working?
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
He’ll be the one booing in the stadium when the North Korean team walks in.
Bobby Thomson
Rehearsal of that Dirty Dancing ad.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It’s the Korean team, both the North and South are marching in together.
ETA: It would be rather rude to boo the host country’s team as they march in.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Macy’s was looted. They even stole the mannequins (photo)
White privilege is a hellva drug.
NotMax
@raven
Get a deja vu-ish sensation when locking and unlocking the lid on it because the digital musical sequence is either the same or close enough to not notice a difference as some of the ones used in the Dark Tower game from 1981 (which I still have and which still works).
raven
@NotMax: That’s out of my orbit.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Sounds of streets of Philadelphia
SRW1
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Melania looks a bit peeved. Makes you wonder it’s the football or the bloke next to her.
NotMax
@BillinGlendaleCA
So far, so good. Other than the initial test have only used it once thus far, for corned beef (no cabbage).
OzarkHillbilly
……
No thanx Dad, I think Ill just stay in school.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Considering they just laid off madame, I’m not all that sad about Macy’s getting looted.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@SRW1: Whenever madame sees a picture of them together, she always says, “She really hates him”.
raven
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: The Patriots from New England (Natalie Portman, Rachel Dratch, Alex Moffat, Heidi Gardner, Luke Null) and the Philadelphians (Tina Fey, Mikey Day, Kenan Thompson) argue over who is better.
https://youtu.be/fcziw7helVg
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: I’ve cooked Kielbasa and rice in mine.
Kay
This is a good piece, because instead of just saying “there was manipulation” it explains how, specifically, it works:
?BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: That’s a pretty shitty story.
Immanentize
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I made shredded taco beef in mine. Worked nicely!
NotMax
@raven
Fun game then, still is now. The very rudimentary proto-AI, when set to four player mode, managed to consistently pick one player to f*ck with. Per Wikipedia:
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: My comment still stands.
Rich2506
Oh yeah! My sister was always more interested in the ads than in the game. Never had much use for the game myself. When my niece was about 7, my sister asked me if I wanted to stay and watch the game. I hesitated a bit and my niece said “Oh, Uncle Rich, you just want to watch the cheerleaders!” Had to admit she had a point.
Kay
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Maybe he’ll walk out like he did at the football game. That’ll show ’em.
germy
I have our local TV news on. They just did a (very) brief segment on the “celebrations” going on in Philadelphia.
Footage of fires and an overturned car.
White people celebrate. Only Black people riot.
Baud
@Kay: That makes it sound like the Russians influenced Nunes, instead of the two working hand in hand.
debbie
@eclare:
I can’t believe there weren’t people at the ad agency who thought this was a really bad idea.
OzarkHillbilly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: More:
Just in case anyone still had an appetite.
Steeplejack (phone)
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
I love Melania’s no doubt obscenely expensive sportsball jacket. Nice touch!
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Self-righteousness always trumps manners.
(Supersedes sounds so elitist!)
Baud
WaPo
Patricia Kayden
@Kay: And apparently Nunes has five more memos to unleash on the public. I can’t see the other memos being more impactful than the first one which has proven to be a dud. Russian bots haven’t figured out that only Trump supporters believe Nunes’ propaganda.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: That is great news.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
Dems still have to get their memo out ASAP.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
Fatberg is a good nickname for Trump.
NotMax
@OzarkHillbilly
Brings back pungently scented memories of cleaning out the big (as in knee high) cast iron grease traps on the exit lines of sinks in a commercial kitchen.
germy
@debbie:
I’ve worked with ad agency people. They’re not known for their good judgement.
Kay
@Baud:
Right, it does, which is actually more believable to me than a united conspiracy.
The more interesting part, to me, is how they choose almost representative Trump supporters to see what they’re saying online and then amplify THAT. I wondered how they knew, in ’16. How they knew what would resonate. Duh. They know because they read the most fanatical Trump supporters.
Baud
@Kay: We need a foreign power to amplify Balloon Juice. America would be better for it.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: DOA.
Steeplejack (phone)
@OzarkHillbilly:
“The Whitechapel Fatberg” sounds like a minor Sherlock Holmes story.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: It won’t pass as is. Hopefully, though, something decent will.
PaulWartenberg
the thirty second of dead air was a better ad than that desecrating RAM ad.
YOU DO NOT USE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR TO SELL SHIT.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Guessing that the fast food chain Fatburger doesn’t have any London shops.
NotMax
@Baud
Sadly, Fredonia is fictional.
:)
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: One of the worst jobs I ever had to do.
True story: Was working on Jack in the Boxes upgrading them for ADA compliance (wheel chair accessible, etc). Had to tear off the drywall in the bathroom so I could put in blocking for handrails. At the bottom of each of the stud spaces there were 4-6″ of grease.
I made the laborer clean that out.
Boudica
@Steeplejack (phone): Saw on twitter someone found her jacket online…sells for $2100.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: I’ve got my fingers crossed but I’m not holding my breath. These clowns couldn’t pass a parked car.
OzarkHillbilly
@PaulWartenberg:
But using the flag is A-OK.
NotMax
@Ozark Hillbilly
Cockroach heaven!
Just one more canuck
@germy: @germy: most ad agency people have the mentality of a 12 year old
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: We called it “Gag in the Bag”.
lollipopguild
@NotMax: “All hail Fredonia!”
debbie
@Just one more canuck:
Usually there’s one voice of conscience at the conference table, either from the ad agency or from the client.
Baud
@debbie: Maybe she went to the bathroom when this ad was being discussed.
Ken
@Steeplejack (phone):
Or a Holmes/Cthulhu Mythos crossover story.
rikyrah
@raven:
Looks delicious ?
rikyrah
@Kay:
Now that people know what to look for, I have seen many places talking about Russian bots pushing Release the Memo. Exposing that also helps to point out that the memo is a fraud
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Within the last half hour, some tweets with random subjects. I assume they reflect what’s on Fox and Friends.
Kay
@Baud:
I also thought it was originating with Fox. But it’s not. They promote it TO Fox.
Fox isn’t even creating that crappy content they have. You can’t even give them credit for that much work. They’re parroting the most vehement Trumpsters, as amplified by the Russian government.
rikyrah
@PaulWartenberg:
Uh huh ?
Jeffro
Looks like Twitler is melting down over the Nunes non-event…stroke, stroke, stroke!
Jeffro
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): whoops you beat me to it!
Morning Joke is having a field day
Kay
@rikyrah:
The piece predicts that Democrats will “catch up” and use a system like this themselves- not Russian, obviously, but the same idea.
That will happen. In 2004 everyone was talking about how advanced the GOP were in data collection and analysis. By 2008 the Democrats had caught and surpassed them. It’s like an arms race.
debbie
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
Schiff looks far taller than Rubio. Trump needs a more accurate modifier.
JR
@Kay: maybe that will cause twitter to disappear once and for all. That or just the fact that it has no intrinsic value and no path for capitalization.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Jeffro: He’s such an ass.
Kay
@rikyrah:
The piece doesn’t talk about the kind of “borrowed credibility” they’re using. If major media picks it up GOP lawmakers can point to that as endorsement. So instead of saying “this obscure guy in Michigan and 50,000 Russian bots” they can say they learned it in the NYTimes.
That’s what Cheney did with Iraq. He wouldn’t say “well, me and 150 neocons promoted this and the NYTimes picked it up” he would say “the NYTimes says this morning…” He did that in interviews.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@JR: It took me a second to realize you were talking about money and not Trump’s random use of capital letters
Kay
@JR:
Well, I suggest we all start following that guy in Michigan and if he starts tweeting about bombing NK head for the shelter.
Because it will be on FOX in 20 minutes and on all major news org in 20 hours and then to the Trump Administration for execution.
Kay
@JR:
It’s such a joke that Twitter and Facebook are going to voluntarily pour tens of millions of dollars into stopping this.
Yeah, right. They’ll voluntarily regulate when pigs fucking fly. It’s the dumbest approach. “Let’s beg these corportations to solve this problem!” Oh, sure. They’re on it.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): The Universal Healthcare tweet is out of left field.
Steeplejack
@Ken:
Even better!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: It’s like money laundering, but it’s with information. Information Laundering.
debbie
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Buckshot bitching.
Another Scott
‘Morning everyone.
Thanks for checking in, satby. Glad things are going well, hope the cold/allergy settles down.
Adam (?) posted some tweets last night that there was going to be some big new story on Lawfare this morning. I don’t see anything obvious yet, but it might be something to keep an eye out for.
Have a good day, and a good week, everyone.
Cheers,
Scott.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@debbie: No, that’s throwing crap on the wall and see what sticks. This is different, it’s taking bunk and putting it though a legitimate channel. As Kay points out, this is exactly what they did with Iraq; funnel it though the NYT(which is still garbage), and they quote the NYT as an authority.
Jeffro
Absolutely great article in The Atlantic by Benjamin Wittes and Jonathan Rauch btw – it explains why any and all ‘true’ conservatives (i.e. never Trumper‘s) must vote against GOP candidates wholesale.
So this is where we’re at: conservatives calling on their fellow Republicans to vote straight party Democrat (!)
Not quite a endorsement of the Democrats but another step in the right direction
OzarkHillbilly
Who knew it? Bonobos are Republicans.
?BillinGlendaleCA
OT: Just figured out that I drove right by the Spahn Ranch* yesterday.
* For you young folk, that’s where Charles Manson and his “family” hung out in LA.
ETA: There’s a large church across the street now.
SiubhanDuinne
@JR:
Nonsense. I’ve seen countless Trump tweets IN ALL CAPS.
OzarkHillbilly
@Jeffro:
Matt McIrvin
@germy: As a Masshole, I am so happy the Pats lost. We do that shit when we win up here too.
Matt McIrvin
@debbie: We better have ten memos! Twelve! That would make them twicet as true!
Jeffro
@OzarkHillbilly: that’s the one! Isn’t it beautiful ?
MomSense
@Mustang Bobby:
HA!
@SRW1:
I honestly can’t tell what she is thinking because her face is so frozen. I’m sort of over all the speculation about what she thinks of trump. She was a birther, defended his boasting of sexual assault as locker room/boy talk, and on and on. The whole thing feels so creepy that I feel gross every time I think about it.
Chet
I’m biased because I hate Eli Manning and OBJ, but that commercial was lame and derivative. As soon as the first notes of “Time of My Life” sounded, I knew exactly how the next 25 seconds of the commercial would play out. As if no one had ever recreated that scene before. Oh, it’s edgy because two dudes did it? No, I’m pretty sure that’s happened in dozens of movies, tv shows, and commercials in the 30 years since the movie became a pop cultural touchstone.
sdhays
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Why does Melania look like she’s going to a Cubs game?
GregB
Trump stapled himself to the stock market firmly, as did the GOP.
They won’t be able to pivot to an Obama ruined the economy talking point now.
Jeffro
By the way, nice to see McCain & Coons put forth an immigration reform proposal – and to see Coons have a minute on the national stage
Steve in the ATL
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Too bad the neighborhood hasn’t improved
Steve in the ATL
@sdhays: because Chicago is the best!
japa21
@Steve in the ATL: Are you still trying to promote that?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Steve in the ATL:
The Spahn Ranch burned down in 1970, true loss for the neighborhood.
Steve in the ATL
@japa21: I’ll concede that the Bears suck and look they will continue to suck for a long time.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
King’s speech and the commercial (capitalism speech) go well together actually.
chopper
@Baud:
let’s see if yertle keeps his promise. not bloody fucking likely, but who knows.
rikyrah
New letter shows Trump adviser bragging about advising Kremlin
02/05/18 08:30 AM—UPDATED 02/05/18 08:34 AM
By Steve Benen
As part of the coordinated Republican pushback against the Russia investigation, Donald Trump’s GOP allies have become heavily invested in Carter Page. That was almost certainly unwise.
…………………
Peale
@Patricia Kayden: trump supporters may be enough if you can rile them up to protect their man at midterms. If they can turn the topic to “Hillary is up to her old tricks” they might pull out of their rut.
japa21
Dow already down 270 points today.
Steve in the ATL
@japa21: the important thing is what’s happening at the CBOT
j/k!
japa21
@Steve in the ATL: You are funny. Obviously didn’t get that sense of humor from your early years in Chicago.
Patricia Kayden
@Jeffro: I’ll take it!! Would love if Jennifer Rubin and David Frum also encouraged their fans to vote a straight Democratic ticket in November. We need a flip.
Patricia Kayden
@debbie: I assume Republicans won’t vote to release the Democratic memo which is beyond unfair.
Another Scott
@Another Scott: Ok, the Lawfare story is out. 100 pages of FOIA FBI e-mails on reactions to Comey’s firing:
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Peale: Possible, but doubtful. Too many people despise Trump and the energy and results of the special elections over the last year point to a wave this fall.
WaterGirl
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Melania really despises him You can just feel the hate coming off of her in that photo.
gvg
if some of the bots are automated, can they be tricked into retweeting this is false, or this is illogical because…sometimes when a false narrative is being pushed? Could we map the rightwing universe links and direct real info when ever a narrative is being pushed? by sending directly to all the linked parties?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Another Scott:
What’s the over/under of whether the GOP are going to start attacking the FOIA?
Just One More Canuck
@Chet: you seem fun
WaterGirl
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: When I was growing up, I learned that it’s only looting if black people do it. Looting like this, for no real reason, is just another form of mob mentality Makes me sick. Is there an emoticon for rage?
WaterGirl
@Baud: Maybe the fact that this is coming from McCain, who is dying, will give cover for enough senators that this could have a chance at passing?
WaterGirl
@PaulWartenberg: His family should be ashamed for approving that.
Yutsano
@WaterGirl: Between the Democrats and the Republicans there are more than enough votes to pass a DACA fix. Yertle knows this. Yet he’s not allowing the vote/.
Amaranthine RBG
But have you seen the 2019 Rams?
12 inch nav screen, stitched leather dash, ventilated seats, electric motor for low end torque, 12,000 pounds of towing capacity.
Strength and elegance – I can see MLK choosing to drive one.
eric
@WaterGirl: pick anything orange ;)
Yutsano
@Amaranthine RBG: This is, by far, the stupidest and most offensive thing you have ever written,
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Yutsano:
I think, for once, RBG is kidding.
Barbara
@PaulWartenberg: I am more measured in how I react to this. On MLK Day, I watched Isaiah Thomas do a pre-game interview of one of MLK’s daughters and one of Malcolm X’s daughters, together. It was so uplifting. I think that MLK’s children do care about his real legacy but from what I have read, they also have a sense that they lost their father and lived hand to mouth for a long time and don’t see why they can’t monetize his work. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth when they don’t let other people “use” MLK’s words in charitable and political works without paying big fees, yes, it does, but I think we need to be careful we don’t veer too far into being annoyed that an African-American family is protecting its property rights, something that happens every day in America among whites. For instance, the heirs of J.D. Salinger, Sylvia Plath, and many other luminaries whose works are of significant scholarly interest tie them up for various personal and financial reasons. To me, if I were Dodge, I would have thought a lot harder about doing this because, basically, it makes zero sense.
gene108
@Yutsano:
I assume it is snark
eclare
@Barbara: Left a really bad taste in my mouth to go to the National Civil Rights Museum here in Memphis and see virtually no evidence of Martin Luther King. And looks like the heirs are still up to the same.
JR
@Barbara: Isaiah Thomas — not the former Piston, I hope? As in “trunk party” Isaiah Thomas?
Amaranthine RBG
@Yutsano:
Wha? King loved to play pool and carried a .38 concealed. He’s part of the target market for upscale pickups
Why walk across the Edmund Pettus bridge when you can float across on Ram’s class exclusive air suspension?
KickBoxBanana
Is Fallon still trying to win back viewers he lost when he tried to normalize Twitler?
Barbara
@eclare: Ditto with the African American history museum that opened in Washington last year. The Washington Post reported that the museum basically gave up negotiating with MLK’s heirs over anything they controlled. They were able to obtain mementos from other people but nothing from MLK’s family. One of the reasons given, of course, is that they control a private museum in Atlanta dedicated specifically to MLK and civil rights. But the report was that, for enough money, they would have provided something. I don’t exactly feel sorry for them, but they grew up in a fish bowl and it doesn’t surprise me that they are wounded in various ways by the experience. The experience of the children of heroes and martyrs is often not one that generates a second generation of altruism.
Barbara
@JR: The one and only. I don’t follow all of this closely enough to know his bad boy history. His parents were apparently at the fabled march on Washington and he grew up venerating both Malcolm and MLK. It’s my guess that he was the one who probably reached out to Malcolm X’s daughter. Malcolm X, of course, has a close association with Detroit, as well as Harlem.
eclare
@Barbara: I linked to that article, there was a bit about how former ATL mayor Shirley Franklin spearheaded an effort to raise $32M for some of his letters to go on display at his alma mater. She then said she thought that would be enough for four people to live on, but they kept suing each other. I certainly take your point that they are wounded, but Dodge? Really? And whoever greenlighted that at the ad agency and Dodge should be canned.
Barbara
@eclare: Agree re Dodge. It goes a long way to proving that the children’s motivation is almost exclusively monetary. From the article (which is the one I had read) I think the following pretty much sums up how I feel:
I am not giving the kids props for being no better or no worse than anyone else would be, I just don’t think it makes sense to be disgusted by them in particular.
trollhattan
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
About delicious pie? That is no kidding matter!
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Amaranthine RBG:
I’m pretty sure negros (/s) aren’t the target market for Ram trucks. Only Real-Americans are.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@trollhattan:
You’re right, of course. Pie is serious business.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@WaterGirl: Trump has said often enough in the past that he prefers to see women in dresses and skirts rather than trousers. I took her pantsuit at the SOTU to be a personal Fuck you message.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Another Scott: That article shows Trump and Sanders lied (you’re shocked, I know). I’m afraid Trump will use it to show the FBI is against him so investigations of him are invalid. Also that article names people who could become targets for Trump’s venom.
debbie
@Patricia Kayden:
Some GOPer stated on Friday it wasn’t released because, at 10 pages, it was too long.
J R in WV
@debbie:
Well, for a Russo-Republican, sure, it is too long at 10 pages. They barely speak American, you can't expect them to read it too!!
Really, for staff, you would be shocked into firing support staff who actually believed such a thing, but would love and protect staff who could lie so well in defense of their Congressman they work for. And that’s not sarcasm, that’s Russo-Republicanism at its core. Nothing loved more than a really competent liar.
Kathleen
@WaterGirl: I always love the “white people will be white people” smirk from whomever is covering those types of stories.
The closest rage emoji I can figure out is the grimacing poop emoji.