Release The Memo: A Quick Note

Tomorrow is likely to be a bit nutso as we now know that the Nunes memo will likely be released.

As you might imagine, the FBI is not amused.

Washington, D.C.
FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691
January 31, 2018

FBI Statement on HPSCI Memo

The FBI takes seriously its obligations to the FISA Court and its compliance with procedures overseen by career professionals in the Department of Justice and the FBI. We are committed to working with the appropriate oversight entities to ensure the continuing integrity of the FISA process.

With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.

Given the reporting, I’m not quite sure how FBI Director Wray doesn’t resign in short order if this thing is released. Fortunately, I’m not FBI Director Wray.

Congressman Schiff has now provided even more worrying information about what has been approved for release tomorrow.

Now for the quick note: If the Nunes memo, which is really more like a four page report, is released without an order of declassification from the President, the material released will still be classified. Since I am not read on to any of this stuff – the material used to get the FISA warrant and extension alleged to be the focus of the Nunes memo, as well as the material that Nunes and his staff cherry picked to produce the report – I cannot and will not read the memo, the reporting about the memo, and cannot and will not comment on them. This would violate the terms of my clearance.

Mark Zaid, who runs one of the top law practices dealing with clearance issues, as well as whistle blower protection, delineates the key issues here:

Click across and read the entire thing.

Zaid goes on to state:

To redirect: if this is released tomorrow without a specific declassification order, I’m going to be silent on it. On the actual report being released, what it means, etc. I’m sure others here will pick up the slack. And I highly recommend that you all check out Zaid‘s and his partner Brad Moss‘s twitter feeds as they’ll have expert commentary. I also highly recommend Ben Wittes‘s, Susan Hennessy‘s, Asha Rangappa‘s, Richard Painter‘s, and Walter Schaub‘s twitter feeds among others. And I’m sure Lawfare will have coverage too.

Sorry about this, but the rules are the rules and I’m not placing my clearance in jeopardy because Congressman Nunes is Congressman Nunes.

Open thread!

121 replies
  1. 1
    T S says:

    Hold onto your butts.

  2. 2
    Trentrunner says:

    What in the actual fuck is going ON?

  3. 3
    B.B.A. says:

    Can a tweet declassify a document? How about a statement to a reporter, “yeah, it’s totally declassified”? What if either of these is followed by a denial from White House staff, or another statement “I never said anything about declassifying”?

  4. 4
    cain says:

    Good call on your part.

    I have never seen anything like this in my life.

  5. 5

    I think it may not be released tomorrow because of Schiff’s objection, but yeah, the classification is likely to continue. Not a problem for me.

  6. 6

    @Trentrunner:

    What in the actual fuck is going ON?

    Evergreen. Captures the spirit of the moment.

  7. 7
    Wag says:

    Fuck Nunes. That is all.

  8. 8
    Adam L Silverman says:

    I can authoritatively and preemptively state that whatever gets released, keeping Schiff’s statement tonight in context, will be garbage. It will look sloppy to the professionals who will quickly pick it apart. And it will, in short order both blow up in Nunes’ and the Administration’s faces while at the same time become gospel truth on the right and that gospel truth will be disseminated via Fox, Breitbart, Dim Jim, Rush, Drudge, Hewitt, RT, Sputnick, GG, a ton of twitter feeds including Russian bots and trolls, etc.

  9. 9
    Wag says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    And all of us will appreciate your expert analysis. And will miss Adam’s equally insightful commentary.

  10. 10
    chris says:

    @cain: OT: Is this the book that you quoted in the earlier threads?

  11. 11
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Wag: I’ll be lurking. Followed by sending catalogued lists of all the spillage of classified info I’ve seen to my company’s facility security officer. He’s going to be day drinking by the time this is all over.

  12. 12
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Trentrunner:

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    James E. Powell says:

    Good for you Adam L Silverman for staying true.

    Every single one of these @#$#%!! Republicans was in flames over Hillary Clinton’s emails that supposedly – well we don’t actually know, now do we? – contained references to classified information. But they fully support this bullshit.

    I’m still not watching any news. Are they giving it the “some say” and “both sides” treatment?

  14. 14
    Suzanne says:

    I’m sorry I’m dumb. So reading it will violate your clearance, even though it will be publicly available for anyone to read?

  15. 15
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Wag: If they declassify it, I’ll be all over it. But I doubt they will. I don’t think they understand how any of this works.

  16. 16
    Mike in NC says:

    Fucking Nunes has deep ties to the Russian mafia. Why won’t the media report on that?

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    @Suzanne: The rules on classification are that a classified document remains classified, even if it has been released to the public. So people with clearances must treat it as classified and not read it if they’re not cleared for it and not discuss it outside the proper venues.

    This caused all kinds of problems a few years back during a Wikileaks dump of State Department documents, I think. Government people weren’t allowed to access Wikileaks. My sense is that a great many unclassified computers had to be cleansed.

    Good luck to the sysadmins!

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    chris says:

    Nunes spokesman responds to accuse Dems of "complaining about minor edits" to the memo, two of which he says the FBI and Dems sought. Still unclear: What if any recourse Dems have now. https://t.co/KRNzLGXOtp— Elana Schor (@eschor) 1 February 2018

    Goodnight, America, hope to see you in the morning. If you’re still there.

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    tobie says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And it will…become gospel truth on the right…disseminated via Fox, Breitbart, Dim Jim, Rush, Drudge, Hewitt, RT, Sputnick, GG, a ton of twitter feeds including Russian bots and trolls, etc.

    Isn’t that the ttruth and isn’t that what makes this whole damn episode in our politics so frightening?

  20. 20
    Betty Cracker says:

    It’s all so insane.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Suzanne: If they release the memo, then it will be available for anyone to read and for reporters to report on. If the President, who is the final/highest classification order, does not issue a formal declassification order, then the material released will still be classified because the FBI, where it originated, has not declassified it. This means that even if you’re cleared for the level of information released, you can’t look at it or anything that specifically references it if you don’t have an official need to know.

    I am not read on to anything having to do with DOJ/FBI. I do not have an official need to know. So under the term of my clearance I cannot look at the material. If I accidentally see some of it, I have to report it to my company’s facility security officer as accidentally accessing spillage – classified material that was released without being declassified. For instance, I’ve never seen any of the various material that Manning gave to Wikileaks or that Snowden stole and then fed to reporters via GG. Because doing so would violate my clearance. I don’t need to know it.

  22. 22
    No One of Consequence says:

    Damn.

    Their going to let this get ugly, cuz its already way past weird.

    Get your warm clothes out, keep them handy.

    We’re going to need to take to the streets to force the issue, I fear.

    Very worried for us all. This is not normal, and those in power are playing along, as though daring us all to call them on it.

    Can we call them on it?

    When will we call them on it?

    – NOoC

  23. 23
    guachi says:

    I can only echo what Adam has said about the memo still being classified and not commenting on it. I can’t even fathom how irresponsible this release appears to be. Everyone I personally know with a clearance takes this stuff very seriously. I know I do.

  24. 24
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chris: It’ll be here. Perhaps bloodied, but unbowed.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Do what you need to do. I get it.

  26. 26
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @tobie: It is a good chunk of the problem. If you haven’t, you should see the contortions they all immediately put themselves through to turn the train crash this afternoon into a liberal/progressive/democrat deep state attack on GOP officials to subvert the Republic. Some of these people are nuts. Some are not and are all the more dangerous for being sane while doing this crap.

  27. 27
    NotMax says:

    What likely will be released:

    A redacted version of a document already differing from what was voted on for release, already altered at least once. Cliff’s Notes re-cherry picked version of the original selectively cobbled up Nunes memo.

  28. 28
    Another Scott says:

    Aren’t there at least two memos now? The one from the Teabaggers on the committee, and the one that Nunes modified and gave to Donnie. Which one was reviewed by the FBI? Which one will get declassified? What happens to the other one? Why did Nunes change it?

    Lots and lots of questions…

    I look forward to the House investigation of all of this.

    Cheers,
    Scott.
    (“I crack myself up sometimes.”)

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @No One of Consequence:

    Can we call them on it?

    When will we call them on it?

    That’s a bit insulting to the millions who were in the streets. Do you want to rephrase?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Betty Cracker: It is. I’ve written here many times that going to war with the Intel Community is stupid. Going to war with the FBI and DOJ that isn’t part of the IC is equally stupid. If they release this thing, I fully expect the IC to respond. And depending on how the US IC responds, will determine whether allied and partner intel communities decide to cut loose to protect themselves and their countries. If anyone thought there was going to be a few days of good publicity from the State of the Union, they need to have their heads examined.

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    patrick II says:

    I have read that in theory Trump cannot pardon himself for a crime, so even his clear cut constitutional powers are limited in some circumstances. It seems to me that, if Trump does issue order of declassification, his power to do so would also be limited by the fact that he is the subject of the investigation into that crime that this memo is meant to obstruct.
    If I am sitting on a jury someday, I would find this further evidence of Trump’s effort to obstruct justice and not something he has an absolute right to do. Also, Devin Nunes should hope he is not someday charged with a crime for this.

  32. 32
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Thanks. I just wanted to let everyone know ahead of time. Figured it would make things easier in real time.

  33. 33
    Adam L Silverman says:

    At least there’s some good news today:

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    danielx says:

    @No One of Consequence:

    As someone once said, jaw jaw is better than bang bang. The point is change without bloodshed; YMMV.

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    guachi says:

    Also, I hope that front pagers and commenters are cognizant that some of us can’t read the memo if it isn’t declassified! I don’t want me, or Cheryl, or Adam to get in trouble. Thursday is my day off. Don’t want to talk to my SSO on my day off.

  36. 36
    Another Scott says:

    @Adam L Silverman: On NPR ATC this evening they said that FEMA will continue distributing food and water to Puerto Rico, but they won’t be getting any more deliveries to the island. So when their stock is gone, that’s it. They aren’t really reversing their decision, they’re (apparently) just trying to quiet the public relations disaster.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  37. 37
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Another Scott: Ugh.

  38. 38
    Mnemosyne says:

    @guachi:

    It may be worth it for folks who do have clearances to explicitly say, “I can’t read the Nunes memo at all without getting in trouble with my boss” when other commenters ask. It’s a confusing issue for people who have never had to deal with clearances, though you and Adam have explained it pretty well.

  39. 39
    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Palmer Report @PalmerReport

    Donald Trump’s day so far:

    – Hope Hicks is going to prison
    – Devin Nunes may join her
    – Trey Gowdy just quit
    – Trump might as well quit
    – He hasn’t tweeted in three days
    – FBI begins leaking dirt on him
    – It’s still only 10pm

    200 replies 1,458 retweets 3,255 likes

    After a day like this, you can see why he likes to unwind by watching The Gorilla Channel.

  40. 40
    No One of Consequence says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: My apologies, no offense intended. I am exasperated and ineloquent to say the least. Please allow me to rephrase:

    What is going to be required to alter this course of events, or rather correct this course of events? When will it boil over into big, big numbers of protesting general strikes? What has to be shut down in order for those with the power to be incentivized to actually use it towards Just (and obvious) ends?

    But furthermore, and perhaps most importantly, why are our elected officials actively SUBVERTING the Constitution of the United States of America?!

    I’m having trouble frankly grokking all this. l have read some Camus. Puzzled over The Stranger. Understand a bit of the philosophy of Absurdism. Never in my life did I think I would get this close to a real-life, mass-delusion, actively seeking to perpetuate a (rather obvious) un-Reality…

    I’m just shaking my head about this. What the hell is going on in this country?!

    – NOoC

  41. 41
    GregB says:

    Hope Hicks is going to crack under this pressure.

  42. 42
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: quick question: are we NOT supposed to stay frosty tonight?

  43. 43
    Adam L Silverman says:

    Alright, now they’re just fucking with me! (emphasis mine)
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-hired-private-investigators-records-show

    President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign paid private investigators more than $5,000 in December to conduct “research consulting,” according to a new financial filing. The payment went to Confidential Global Investigations, a sleek corporate investigations company that reportedly employs former agents of intelligence services around the world, including Russia’s KGB and Israel’s Mossad. According to its website, CGI’s services range from individual background checks to “surveillance, covert intelligence gathering, and deep web due diligence.” Robert Seiden, a former Manhattan prosecutor who founded the company, specializes in tracking down foreign, particularly Chinese, executives of companies that have allegedly defrauded American investors. “CGI’s team,” its website boasts, “includes the former head of INTERPOL, the former deputy head of New York State Homeland Security, staff of the NYPD counter-terrorism team, former FBI, CIA, and IRS agents as well as numerous experts from the private sector.”

  44. 44
    jl says:

    ” because Congressman Nunes is Congressman Nunes.”

    So, the second ‘Congressman Nunes’, is that euphemism for something really rude, or are you being really rude, since ruder words cannot adequately describe him?

  45. 45
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @No One of Consequence: Register everyone you know to vote and then nudge them to register everyone they know. Then nudge all of them to ensure they do vote. And then vote in November.

  46. 46
    JWR says:

    @patrick II:

    Also, Devin Nunes should hope he is not someday charged with a crime for this.

    Damn, that’s fer sure! But my thinking is that he already knows how deep he is into this entire mess and has arrived at NFTG by this point. How else to explain his actions up to this point?

  47. 47
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steve in the ATL: That’s classified. I can neither confirm nor deny.

  48. 48
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: The former. I figured it wasn’t professional to write what I really thought/felt.

  49. 49
    Another Scott says:

    For some reason invisible VP Pence decided to crawl out from under his rock to attack Sen. Manchin. Manchin isn’t having it.

    “I was shocked that after the Vice President worked for almost a year in a divisive and partisan way to take health care away from almost 200,000 West Virginians, bankrupt our hospitals, and push tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and huge corporations that he would come to West Virginia and continue his partisan attacks,” Manchin tweeted.

    Good, good.

    Pence (and Donnie) must be worried that Manchin will win re-election…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  50. 50
    Steve in the ATL says:

    @danielx:

    As someone once said, jaw jaw is better than bang bang.

    FYI, “jaw jaw” is roughly how we pronounce “Georgia” down south.

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    No One of Consequence says:

    @danielx: That’s just it. I don’t want there to be any bloodshed. My fear is that there will be, because they are going to force it to that point. This is just nuts.

    Logical conclusion of all this seems to be to be either a.) our foreign enemies decide that their chances aren’t going to get much better than to throw for our heads, and to do so expeditiously — or b.) we avoid descending into a full-blown fascist state, but narrowly, taking far too long, and with more than necessary bloodshed and sorrow and unpleasantness.

    Violence begets violence. Until that lesson is taken to heart, I fear that blood will flow.

    I am stunned by the controlling interests’ audacity.

    – NOoC

  52. 52
    patrick II says:

    Adam’s dilemma reminds me of (sorry) Hillary Clinton’s emails. Hillary discussed something that had been published in the NY Times but was still theoretically classified. I think it was something about drones. It seems strange to me that the Secretary of State was unable to discuss something that everyone who wanted to could read about in the Times.

  53. 53
    danielx says:

    @jl:

    A gentleman is never unintentionally rude.

  54. 54
    danielx says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Dare we say Thugs for Hire?

  55. 55
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @patrick II: Actually someone emailed her what the Times had reported. Technically this is spillage.

  56. 56
    No One of Consequence says:

    @Adam L Silverman: At this rate, we might not have that long.

    – NOoC

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    This, by the way, was Congressman Nunes’ statement about the FBI and the FBI’s concerns:
    https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=854

    Nunes Statement on FBI, DOJ Objections to Release of HPSCI Memo
    Washington, January 31, 2018
    House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes issued the following statement today:

    “Having stonewalled Congress’ demands for information for nearly a year, it’s no surprise to see the FBI and DOJ issue spurious objections to allowing the American people to see information related to surveillance abuses at these agencies. The FBI is intimately familiar with ‘material omissions’ with respect to their presentations to both Congress and the courts, and they are welcome to make public, to the greatest extent possible, all the information they have on these abuses. Regardless, it’s clear that top officials used unverified information in a court document to fuel a counter-intelligence investigation during an American political campaign. Once the truth gets out, we can begin taking steps to ensure our intelligence agencies and courts are never misused like this again.”

  58. 58
    MisterForkbeard says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: What’s this about Hope Hicks?

    @Adam L Silverman: I don’t even know what to say about this. What a smarmy fuck. I hope he goes to prison.

  59. 59
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Nope. Nunes intends to have the unredacted report released:

  60. 60
    NotMax says:

    Repeating from below as that thread appears moribund.

    Shocked, shocked.

    The head of the leading U.S. public health agency has resigned because of financial conflicts of interest that documents showed included purchases of tobacco and healthcare stocks while in office.

    Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, held “certain complex financial interests” that she could not sell in time, forcing her to recuse herself from many public health duties, a Department of Health and Human Services statement said on Wednesday.
    [snip]
    Politico reported on Tuesday that Fitzgerald had traded in tobacco and healthcare stocks a month after Congress confirmed her appointment by Trump in July. Her financial disclosure report, released by Politico, showed she made purchases last August in shares of Japan Tobacco Inc, Merck & Co Inc, Humana Inc as well as ADRs of German drugmaker Bayer AG. Source

  61. 61
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @MisterForkbeard: Here you go:

  62. 62
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @danielx: I’m a hooligan with a good vocabulary for hire. Says so on my business card.

  63. 63
    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Mm hm. As if the White House takes marching orders from Nunes.

    It is to laugh.

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    bemused senior says:

    Aren’t cabinet members allowed to declassify?

  65. 65
    Adam L Silverman says:

    One important point: the only two members of the House of Representatives who have seen the underlying classified materials, the FISA warrant application and extension application and the underlying information that supported them, are Congressman Gowdy (standing in for Nunes who was “recused”) and Congressman Schiff as the ranking member on the HPSCI. None of the staff have seen it either. So whatever it is that Nunes and his staff have put together isn’t based on anything they’ve actually seen.

  66. 66
    NotMax says:

    Batten down the hatches.

    Arthritis particularly throbby tonight, usually an indicator of a sizeable storm moving in sometime over the next 24 to 36 hours.

  67. 67
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @danielx: I’m intentionally rude when necessary. Right now I’m somewhere between agog at the stupidity we’re seeing and angry as a national security professional about it.

  68. 68
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @No One of Consequence: Deep breath. This is a marathon not a sprint.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Adam, the word spillage here seems to be a technical term.

    Does that mean anything you accidentally have seen, while not seeking out that information?

    edit; never mind. I see that you explained that later on in the thread.

  70. 70
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @bemused senior: Yes, provided the classified material originated within their departments. In that case they are the highest classification authority. Though the President can always overrule them. This is why whenever there is a FOIA request there is a prerelease classification review to determine what can be declassified or what needs to be classified now that wasn’t/didn’t need to be classified at the time it was originally prepared.

    Judicial Watch’s and Citizens United’s FOIA requests for Clinton’s work emails were intended to create this kind of trap because State has a very different view of what should be classified than the CIA. So it wasn’t surprising that material was upclassified as a result of the prerelease review. This, of course, led to “Clinton sent classified material over her unclassified email and private server”, which wasn’t true. At the time the emails were sent she received 3 emails that had information in them with paragraph markings for State Department confidential, but no header or footer markings. Every other one of the emails sent to her or by her that were deemed to be classified or contain classified info were upclassified as a result of the prerelease classification review at the request of the CIA. The whole thing was specifically designed to create the exact feeding frenzy it created.

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    encephalopath says:

    I don’t understand why Trump’s lawyerly folks would let him go anywhere near this thing. It’s designed to blow up an FBI investigation into Trump and his campaign. Trump putting his grubby little, stubby fingers all over it would just be one more point of obstruction into the investigation. A prudent person would send it to the DOJ and defer to their judgement.

    Also when asked about whether he wrote this thing in cooperation with the White House, Devin Nunes equivocated and wouldn’t say. So did Huckabee Sanders when asked the same thing.

    Obstruction of justice is one thing but cooperation between members of the House Intelligence Committee and the White House to wreck an FBI investigation into the White House would be a goddamned criminal conspiracy.

  72. 72
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @WaterGirl: Yes.

    Also, it refers to me being a sloppy eater.//

  73. 73
    NotMax says:

    With Adam (as he knows Star Trek) in mind, a rough first draft of a comparison.

    Dolt 45 is to the Republican party as the Medusan ambassador is to the Federation.

  74. 74
    Jay S says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Does this mean FBI and pretty much all all cleared personnel will need to avoid Fox for the foreseeable future?

  75. 75
    Amaranthine RBG says:

    Adam

    Okay, suppose you see a story on the news discussing the memo and you fell like you have to report it to your facility security officer. What is the procedure there, exactly?

    Does s/he have to report it to anyone? Is your report logged somehow?

  76. 76
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @encephalopath: Because he doesn’t have an A lister legal team. None of those guys would take him on for this. So he’s left with Dowd and Cobb. McGahn appears to be decent at his job, which is to serve as the counsel for the presidency, not the President’s personal lawyer. But he can’t be involved with the legal case. Hence hiring Dowd and Cobb.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: I think I know where you’re going with that.

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    Mike J says:

    @encephalopath:

    I don’t understand why Trump’s lawyerly folks would let him go anywhere near this thing. It’s designed to blow up an FBI investigation into Trump and his campaign

    Trump pays as much attention to his lawyers as he does to anybody else who works for him.

    Word is Trump is still working feverishly to get Mueller sitting in front of a grand jury.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jay S: One could only hope.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amaranthine RBG: He notes it. That way if an issue ever comes up, we can prove I made a timely and good faith effort to mitigate and respond appropriately. For instance, when my former students from USAWC who are foreign officers email me to wish me holiday or birthday well wishes or I email them the same, I notify him that I’ve been in contact. I probably don’t have to do this, but I was once read on where the Special Security Officer was a stickler that this stuff had to be disclosed even though the relationships were the result of my assigned work duties as an Army civilian.

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    jl says:

    So, if the Trumpsters screw up the memo release, that means Adam has time to post some more recipes?
    Asking for a friend.

  82. 82
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: I’ve got a Florida man! post that got pushed back because of this. So I can always post that.

  83. 83
    Thaddeu says:

    Don’t get upset. Vote. Get others to vote.

    a)Get everyone you know registered to vote.
    b)Watch out for shenanigans to get you/your friends purged from the voter rolls.
    c)Double check again that you are registered to vote before the deadline, even if you checked
    d)Get everyone you know to actually vote in the Nov 2018 election, at the earliest possible opportunity. No last minute rush before poll closes.

    We have to grit our teeth and jump through obstruction and hoops, this time.

    Darn it, VOTE

  84. 84
    jl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: OK, so if you can’t drive us crazy with the technical innards of Trumpster dirt, you get us with Floridaman insanity. I understand your plan now. I see I had to drag it out of you.

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    eemom says:

    I cannot and will not read the memo, the reporting about the memo, and cannot and will not comment on them. This would violate the terms of my clearance.

    I’m not placing my clearance in jeopardy because Congressman Nunes is Congressman Nunes.

    Uh, don’t take this the wrong way, but I am told by a trusted source in the defense industry that people with high level clearances don’t usually advertise that fact on public forums.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: I’m not sure asking once and getting an immediate answer counts as drag it out of me.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @eemom: The fact that I have a clearance isn’t classified.

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    @jl: Just after free recipes, cheapskate.

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    Timurid says:

    What scares me the most at this point is Trump deciding not to release the memo at the last moment and the Village singing hosannas in praise of his “prudence” and “moderation.”

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    jl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m the Lester Holt of BJ comenters.

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: A cheesecake recipe! Oh boy, I can hardly wait.

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    piratedan says:

    well, its not like this isn’t right in the GOP wheelhouse… you take a name, a verb and a few select adjectives, pull everything out of context and simply make shit up. Presto, you now have a Faux News release that is guaranteed authentic gospel that can be spun to the minions ad-infinitum and away we go with setting the frame and discussion for the next week of the news cycle, while the MSM talk about how presidential Trump is for not nuking NK yesterday.

    Cripes, I know real news isn’t exactly riveting stuff, but isn’t there anyone out there who’s rich and believes that properly informing the public is a worthy goal in and of itself?

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    @jl: Oh, silly jl, they have cheesecake at Costco.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @piratedan: I think you want this thread:

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    This is interesting:

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    Mike J says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The order of ineptitude had to do with the USA not knowing how to order a transcript of the same judge berating him for not dressing properly in court.

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    patrick II says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    None of the staff have seen it either. So whatever it is that Nunes and his staff have put together isn’t based on anything they’ve actually seen.

    I have been wondering about that. Nunes seems to be writing with confidence and in some detail about things which he reviewed in a secure room with no recording device. Is he that confident of just his memory? Is it possible that the White House had access to those same documents and Nunes had other opportunities to see them and the argument with Ryan and the White House was a charade?

    I suppose not because each access on a computer to documents classified at that level would be logged. But it just seems to me that something more is going on under the covers.

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    eemom says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The fact that I have a clearance isn’t classified.

    Oh.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m gonna have to call the judge the asshole in this story. He clearly doesn’t belong on the bench.

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    patrick II says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Every other one of the emails sent to her or by her that were deemed to be classified or contain classified info were upclassified as a result of the prerelease classification review at the request of the CIA.

    So Obama’s CIA was out to get Hillary? And if it was a setup, why didn’t Obama issue a declassification order? I have wondered about that for a long time.

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    @Steve in the ATL: Why not both the judge and the USA.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @eemom: It is on my CV and resume, which are unclassified. Including renewal and read on dates. And I use them when I apply for new assignments. If I’m on a full time equivalent assignment, my classified email addresses and phone #s are on my business card, which I hand out to people in professional settings. This is all standard.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @patrick II: Nunes never actually saw any of it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @patrick II: They weren’t out to get her per se. As I’ve written here before: my take is that the Intel community, via the Agency, used the classification review as a way to both put State in its place over what CIA views as State’s lax interpretation of classification and to send a warning shot across both State’s and Clinton’s bows over who has the real power in DC.

    And it isn’t Obama’s CIA. The Agency is the Agency. It exists and endures, like the FBI, DOJ, NSA, DOD, etc regardless of who is president.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Alright folks, I’m racking out. Catch you on the flip.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    My fallback position is that we’re always supposed to remember to hydrate!

    Be right back. [ice clinking]

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And now the Agency has Trump running around fucking with their business because they decided to get cute with Hillary’s emails. Remind me not to listen to any whining about Trump from them since they helped elect him by playing their stupid interagency games.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: that judge is an asshole who doesn’t have the temperament to be a judge.

    And it takes a real asshole to be a federal judge while hating the federal government.

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    Dog Dawg Damn says:

    I’m assuming Sarah Plain and Tall can comment on it though.

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    ZyklonBeaArthur says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch:

    Please don’t link to the Palmer Report; it’s fake news, and every click you give it kicks truth and justice in the nuts.

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    trnc says:

    Nunes book report on the Harry Potter series was 12 pages long and said Voldemort lived after Potter, Hermione and Granger burned Hogwarts to the ground and the Bulgarians won the Quidditch World Cup.

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    Starfish says:

    @eemom: What Adam said applies to every cleared person and does not reveal the level of clearance.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: EVERGREEN

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Dafuq. Also, too, $5k doesn’t sound like very much money.

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Don’t you have some dogs? Wrote a pet post!

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    debbie says:

    I never thought I would live to see the GOP turn on the FBI.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Manyakitty: I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of pet blogging at this time.

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    Lee says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I don’t know that judge but I already like him just from his comments in court.

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    McMullen says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I devoutly hope so for all our sakes. I keep feeling I’m in the middle of a bad dream where a disfunctional narcissist is like a rabid animal destroying everything in sight and those who should put him down are having cigars and coffee in an adjoining room.

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