Here’s the live feed for tonight’s State of the Uniom.
Updated at 9:00 PM EST
You all may need these. Courtesy of USA Today.
You know what to do in the comments.
Open thread!
by Adam L Silverman| 401 Comments
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Here’s the live feed for tonight’s State of the Uniom.
Updated at 9:00 PM EST
You all may need these. Courtesy of USA Today.
You know what to do in the comments.
Open thread!
Comments are closed.
Corner Stone
I am a little too old to literally poop myself.
mai naem mobile
Maybe not watch it Adam? Thats what I am doing anyhow. Not giving ratings to Orange Douchebag.
LanceThruster
Will rely on analysis afterward. About to watch Jimmy Dore go live. Looking forward to rebuttals by Bernie, Maxine Waters, and even Joe Kennedy the Nth.
zhena gogolia
Going to OD on MST3K. Thanks, Venice commenter down below!
Corner Stone
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I wonder why Ivanka is wearing a farmhouse kitchen tablecloth as a dress for tonight.
divF
I’m going down to the Y, getting on a treadmill, and watching the first half of the Warriors-Jazz game while getting my work in. I’ll look here to find out what happened when I get back.
Baud
The state of the Union is shitty.
eric
There is not enough monkey in the world to pay me to watch the spate of the uniom.
LanceThruster
The state of the Uniom is Cheeto dusted.
GregB
Taking a page from the nuclear apocalypse themed novel Alas Babylon, the agriculture secretery is the designated survivor.
Corner Stone
@eric:
I think this may say more about you…
B.B.A.
I’m boycotting it, so someone let me know if he tries to start a “LOCK HER UP” chant.
Duane
I bet money Trump says “uniom” at least once. Add it to tour drinking game.
divF
@GregB: Zombie Earl Butz ?
BruceFromOhio
Drinking a bourbon to toast the edge of civilization and wondering what a Uniom is, and what state it resides in.
Then reading for a bit before clocking out.
Johnnybuck
The best resistance in my opinion is not giving it the time of day.
Fair Economist
Almost everything Trump ever says is a lie. Why waste time listening?
Lizzy L
Not watching. But I will be checking in here and visiting other live-blogging sites.
PIGL
I am just making a nice omelette, which I will enjoy with a drop of chilled Greene Chartreuse, while not watching the spectacle, but praying fervently for divine intervention of the kind most unmistakable and definitive.
NotMax
The state of the union is about to immeasurably improve. I quit.”
(One can dream, can’t one?)
Baud
As a non-watcher, my hats off to you yeoman citizens who are taking one for the team.
BruceFromOhio
@Corner Stone: My monkey is enamored with you.
I am devastated.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Duane: I just had the delightful thought that someone in the WH is putting out all those misspellings on purpose as a secret little rebellion.
Amir Khalid
@LanceThruster:
Jimmy Dore is a ranking BernieBro at Bernista HQ The Young Turks, isn’t he? I can already guess what he’s going to say.
BruceFromOhio
@PIGL: cheering for the meteorite, eh? Good strategy.
PhoenixRising
@Corner Stone:
Or maybe not quite old enough. G-d wiling, you’ll get there.
Cheryl Rofer
Now that he’s not going to be ambassador, Victor Cha lets it all hang out.
Duane
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Maybe they’ll sabotage the teleprompter.
Ladyraxterinok
@Fair Economist: Amen! And so say we all Amen. ‘From the tops of our heads to the toes of our feet!’*
* frequent close of prayer in Pentecostal churches
mai naem mobile
Are Putins strings well hidden behind Dolt45 or have Dolt’s idiots done yet another shitty job with staging and the strings are clearly visible?
Duane
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Maybe they’ll sabotage the teleprompter.
Adam L Silverman
Just updated with State of the Union bingo cards. For those playing along at home!
More options here:
https://twitter.com/search?q=state%20of%20the%20union%20bingo&src=typd
Mary G
Wilbur Ross is still awake.
Cheryl Rofer
Rex Tillerson looking grim.
mai naem mobile
Who’s the cabinet guy not there? Mattis I hope. All the others are awfuller. Hope it’s not Scotty Boy Pruitt,Betsy Devos or Keebler Elf.
Cheryl Rofer
Nikki Haley looking for a better seat.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Corner Stone:
Or too young. We’ll check back in 40 years.
Mary G
@mai naem mobile: It’s some clown they finally got to be Agriculture Sec.
PIGL
@BruceFromOhio: Not the meteor. I was thinking of something a bit more specific, more lingery. Something also that would make better TV. Say a plague of boils, and swarms of Manchurian giant hornets…all with very hard feelings about anything Republican.
Cheryl Rofer
@mai naem mobile: Secretary of Agriculture Perdue.
Major Major Major Major
There some sorta thing happening tonight?
Adam L Silverman
Just remember that every time the President has to give a teleprompter speech he has a twitter meltdown and/or an off the cuff media availability meltdown within 24 to 48 hours.
randy khan
There’s lots of watchable stuff on my DVR and, failing that, I’m pretty sure HGTV is not carrying it, so I’m good.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: It takes a tough cabinet secretary to make a tender designated survivor.
Mary G
I can see the hair. The applause is best described as a smattering. A very small one.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: If the world is ending and we have Sonny Perdue as our last hope…
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Duane: Why not? It could happen.
Baud
CNN is on it.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
I want an emotional support scorpion for this. But I’ll settle for an emu. Or a peacock.
Gretchen
@Corner Stone: It’s amazing, isn’t it? Money can’t buy taste.
JWR
Just heard on NBC that the Congressional Black Caucus has remained seated. Good on them!
Bill Arnold
Clapping for himself like a trained seal.
El Caganer
Commentary by David Fucking Brooks? Talking about Donald Trump? No, thank you – there’s some hot clown-on-reptile porn that’s dying for my attention.
B.B.A.
@Adam L Silverman: Keep fucking that chicken!
mai naem mobile
@Adam L Silverman: you forgot “greatest”,”winning”,Ivanka,sanctuary cities,Cryin’Chuck Schumer, black unemployment,NAFTA and Iran.
Corner Stone
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Do scorpion’s have any emotions? I just thought it was in their nature.
Baud
@El Caganer:
Ironically, also with David Brooks.
BruceFromOhio
@PIGL: I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Read lingery as lingerie, and decided against having another bourbon.
rk
Watch Donald Trump give a speech? No thank you. I’ve never watched even Obama give one. I’m not about to begin watching this joker. I hope he keels over and drops dead! That would be the best thing to happen to the union.
Corner Stone
The Mongol Herd was already sweeping across our land.
Aleta
Stae of Delusion.
Corner Stone
Jesus. One paragraph in and he’s already sniffling.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: If she sees her shadow, we have six more weeks of winter.
Adam L Silverman
He’s slurring his speech again. Apparently RADM Jackson gave him to much sudafed again.
Shana
Only a sentence or two in and he’s already sniffing.
Corner Stone
With my beautiful wife Melania, who she has been grudge fucking for a week or so since the pr0n payoff news came out.
Adam L Silverman
@B.B.A.: Excuse me?
burnspbesq
Even SEC basketball is preferable to this shit-show. Go Vandy!
Gretchen
@mai naem mobile: Scott Perdur. Chicken king.
Adam L Silverman
@mai naem mobile: Go to the link I put in the comment. There are some really harsh versions out there.
Mary G
Clear vision. Righteous mission. Extraordinary success. Dems mostly in dark clothes sitting on their hands. Melania has a lady Coast Guard with her who saved people in Houston. Guess what? She’s white. So is the California fire fighter.
Steve in the ATL
I’m at the printer getting copies of my 80-page offer of settlement. The down side of getting a deal in on the contract is I will leave California and go back to my red state. On the plus side, I won’t have to see these particular union thugs for a long time. By which I mean three weeks, when we start bargaining another contract.
The good news is I am totally missing what I assume is a verbal tire fire.
BruceFromOhio
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: I understand that all of those creatures are no longer welcome on Delta flights.
On the other hand, emotional support scorpion makes a great band name.
JWR
He’s already giving kudos to various attendees? Isn’t that usually done near the wind down? (We can only hope!)
But damn, his seal-clapping is drowning everything out.
ETA: And yes, his snuffling, too. ;-(
mai naem mobile
@Corner Stone: they have an IV line in his right arm hiding under his suit shooting the cocaine straight into his blood. He’s going to be doing massive sniffing.
Mary G
Everybody gives a standing O for Steve Scalise and the Capitol police.
Cheryl Rofer
just shout-outs to emergency responder guests so far.
Now a call for unity.
Matt McIrvin
@rk: Obama’s were actually worth watching. He was just about the only major politician who didn’t give me embarrassment-cringe when he spoke.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
Major sniffing.
I’m already a couple of minutes behind on the DVR. Had to make myself an industrial-strength drink to get started. Think I’ll catch up as he calls out the heroes in the gallery and we pause for extended shmaltzy applause.
Houston first-responder Ashley. Question (not to Ashley): Will Trump have a “hero” from the Puerto Rico fiasco?
magurakurin
@mai naem mobile:
Jem’Hadar Cadet Bone Spurs
B.B.A.
@Adam L Silverman: Excuse you!
mai naem mobile
Is Melania wearing a sleeveless dress or is she wearing a ripoff of whatever Jackie Kennedy wore during a JFK Congressional address?
Schlemazel
@Major Major Major Major:
If you are in the right place there is a lunar eclipse.
Steeplejack
When Trump talks about love or uses the word beautiful—which he does a lot in his speeches—he gets this weird, oogly-googly tone in his voice that is thoroughly creepy.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@BruceFromOhio:
Doesn’t it though?
Also too:
mai naem mobile
@Mary G: the same Stevie Scalise who was all ready wit anti gay legislation even though the cop who saved his sorry white ass was gay? That Stevie Scalise?
Mary G
Stock market. 401(k) they the roof. Tax cuts get the first genuine applause from Rs.
magurakurin
@Schlemazel: I’m in the right place…but the forecast is for cloud cover tonight.
Steeplejack
Steve Scalise—there’s a real hero! Stood around doing nothing, got shot—partially because of his rabid Second Amendment fundamentalism—and had his ass saved by non-white officers.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.)
Not watching the Spite of the Uniom speech. Not going to do it. Nobody can make me.
BruceFromOhio
@magurakurin:
Puppets Of The Dominion: This Wormhole Closed For Repair
Swannie
Democrats appear to hate rising wages and low unemployment.
Cheryl Rofer
@mai naem mobile: She’s wearing kind of a nice cream suit.
SiubhanDuinne
AgSec Sonny Perdue is former Governor of Georgia. His first cousin David Perdue is Georgia’s junior senator. They are not related at all to the Perdue Chicken folks.
debbie
@mai naem mobile:
Apparently she arrived separately. Still pissed, I guess.
Steeplejack
The clichés are piling up like snow under the eaves. Mountains climbed. Challenges met. Safe, strong and proud America being built.
Corner Stone
He’s losing his dentures.
Aleta
It’s not a lie if I say Opama Care.
Steeplejack
First fact-checking points: new jobs being created (200,000?), wages going up.
hueyplong
Y’all got stronger stomachs. I can barely stand to read the on-my-side commentary you put up about that fecal pile’s “speech.”
Schlemazel
@mai naem mobile:
She should go with that little pink number Jakie wore in Dallas
ArchTeryx
And we have a Trump troll, right on cue.
Lizzy L
The Washington Post fact checkers are on the case!
Cheryl Rofer
Mary G
Nancy Smash’s face is priceless.
Steeplejack
God, the Republicans are applauding and hooting after virtually every sentence. We may be here all night.
El Caganer
@Adam L Silverman: I think the doc forgot to tell him he’s not supposed to put it up his nose.
Corner Stone
@Swannie: We do! We need the Trumproletariat to be poor and dependent on the govt! FOREVER!!
Adam L Silverman
I see Congressman Gowdy had his hair professionally done for the evening.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Swannie:
No, they just hate phonies who take credit for the work of others.
Mike J
In January alone, 1,034 people attended an organizing academy held by the Washington state Democratic party. The state of our union is strong.
Mary G
@Cheryl Rofer: She’s clapping as little as humanly possible.
Steeplejack
“Pension, 401K and college-fund accounts increasingly bigly.” Too bad fewer and fewer Americans have any of those.
SiubhanDuinne
@BruceFromOhio:
Learn to spell, will you? That’s Dominiom.
Schlemazel
@magurakurin:
Still better watching than the shitheads shitshow
Steeplejack
More fact-checking points: bogus-sounding factoids about the “massive tax cuts.”
JWR
@Steeplejack:
Didn’t he already cover this in the first 30 seconds or so? And now, more shout-outs to people in attendance.
Aleta
That’s 20,000 over 10 years.
Steeplejack
Trump says average middle-class taxpayer will see tax bill go down $2,000. Yee-fucking-haw. That’s $167 a month. Have a nice couple of dinners at Olive Garden and tip the babysitter generously.
SiubhanDuinne
@Cheryl Rofer:
Who’s the kid next to her? I know it’s not Barron.
ArchTeryx
@Steeplejack: The average middle class taxpayer will see their tax bill go UP.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I’m deleting this. I get you’re upset, angry, and worried, but how about you ease up just a wee bit?
Corner Stone
God damn. How many times is he going to seal clap for himself?!
Cheryl Rofer
THE MOTTO IS “IN GOD WE TRUST”
And Paul Ryan points upward.
I am not kidding
BruceFromOhio
@SiubhanDuinne: That’s not what it says on my invitation!
Fuck, I’m in the wrong room again … where’s my emotional support scorpion, it’s time to move.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: She is not a happy camper.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Sorry. Yeah. You should delete it. I was just about to edit it myself.
Mary G
Joint chiefs don’t look happy.
Steeplejack
Uh-oh. These hero small business owners hired a Negro. Don’t know how that will go over with the base.
ArchTeryx
@Adam L Silverman: Long as you’re doing that, a cleanup on Aisle 92 would be appreciated.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Every time Katie!
JWR
I really like the visual of Democrats largely remaining seated. (Jeebus! “SOTU! Now with even MORE shout-outs!)”
Steeplejack
I’d like to know how in the hell Apple is going to hire 20,000 more people in this country. Aren’t they basically an idea lab and branding company now? Or are we going to have factories with nets on the outside to catch suicidal workers?
debbie
@Steeplejack:
I haven’t seen a paycheck with the new rates yet, but I’ll be losing about $100 just on the deduction/exemption changes.
Central Planning
Is it over yet?
Mary G
Getting a bit nasty about standing for the anthem.
Jonny Scrum-half
@Steeplejack: Trump is the worst, but scoffing at an extra $2000/year isn’t how we’re going to win.
SiubhanDuinne
@Cheryl Rofer:
@SiubhanDuinne:
N/M, seems to be the flag kid.
Corner Stone
Who is the stand in for Barron tonight?
Steeplejack
God, Trump talking about us as “one American family” makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
cain
I wish someone had brought a live shark.
El Caganer
@Cheryl Rofer: What, like he just hit a three from center court?
BruceFromOhio
@ArchTeryx: This. I have to draw a little picture for trumpfers because they can’t understand it when I use plain American speak.
Inventor
@Jonny Scrum-half: My taxes will go up by more than that, am I allowed to scoff?
Mary G
@JWR: and wearing black, like a funeral for America.
debbie
Is Stephen Miller there?
Steeplejack
Oh, shit. Trump forcefully says, “The motto of America is ‘In God we trust.'” Behind him, Ryan does one of those baseball-player “I just hit a home run” looks to the sky, points his finger up and mouths “Amen.”
Suddenly I don’t think I have enough liquor in the house.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Carry on then. I understand the where the sentiment is coming from, but just cut yourself and everyone else a little slack.
magurakurin
@Jonny Scrum-half: can we scoff at the lie that average people will get a 2000 dollar tax cut?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Jonny Scrum-half:
An extra 2 grand a year isn’t that much. Oh, and I wasn’t aware comments on a blog are official party policy.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
State of the Boobies
Steeplejack
Trump starts a sentence with “Our police, our military . . .” and the Rethugs are clapping before he gets another word out.
ETA: Oh, they need our support. Another standing ovation.
raven
This dude was a journalism professor at Georgia and I invite you to read this hilarious obit. At the end he urges people buy a young person a subscription to the NYT so if you don’t like it don’t read it and then go fuck yourself.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack:
Yes, in Wisconsin.
Bill Arnold
Has there been any substance yet? Or just bragging?
El Caganer
@Corner Stone: Could it be….The Cyber?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Mary G:
I’m not watching. What’s he mouthing exactly?
Aleta
I forget, what is clean coal?
Calouste
@Steeplejack: My paycheck went up 97 cents. I get paid twice a month, so that’s a massive $1.94.
hedgehog mobile
Watching Drunk History with a cider. May break out the bourbon for Colbert’s show.
Steeplejack
Trying to fast-forward to catch up, but I’ve got to see what he says about Gorsuch.
raven
I’m watching King Kong.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Aleta:
More importantly, what’s the point of clean coal if pollution and climate change is just “politicized science”?
JWR
@Bill Arnold: The latter. It’s amazing.
PIGL
@BruceFromOhio: That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. Here. (wipes away tears, shuffles off).
Shana
@raven: What a mensch! Good on him.
Cheryl Rofer
@Bill Arnold: No, it’s pretty boring. Plus clapping into the microphone, which James Fallows noted was terrible stagecraft.
Steeplejack
Jesus, “giving veterans choice in their health-care decisions” is a stopper applause line?
Adam L Silverman
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: In this case, state of the implants.
Matt McIrvin
@Aleta: To be perfectly fair: Obama touted “clean coal” when he was campaigning in ’08. He seems to have wised up later.
magurakurin
@raven: which one the 1933 original or the Peter Jackson version?
Cheryl Rofer
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Cheryl Rofer:
From what I’m reading, the GOP is lapping it up and think he’s doing great. Truly a cult they are.
Corner Stone
He stops for Rx prices. And claps like a clown trained seal. Again.
Steeplejack
“We have ended the war on beautiful, clean coal.” Words fail.
Mary G
Drug prices will come down substantially. My ass.
Corner Stone
Our nation has lost its wealth? Say whut?
Hitless
@Steeplejack:
Average isn’t the median.
And in fact, who knows knows how they are defining average but my money says most taxpayers won’t…
Raoul
“Our police, our military … need our support.” Our FBI needs to be run through a shredder and then pissed on repeatedly.
Yeah, don’t expect Republicans/Trump to make sense.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Adam L Silverman: another case of technology stripping jobs away from hard working whites.
magurakurin
@Steeplejack: It’s Stalinism, clapping is required when Dear Leader speaks.
Steeplejack
“We can get Motor City revving its engine again. And that’s what happening.” Whut?
Aleta
Give these boys some party horns and elastic hats.
Baud
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Cults vote.
Steeplejack
Okay, skipping ahead four minutes to get live. Someone can fill me in later on how we improved the FDA.
magurakurin
@Baud: except for Wilmer’s. They couldn’t figure out how to register.
Corner Stone
$1.5T infrastructure bill? Hilarious.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@raven: That’s lovely. He was clearly a wonderful man. Edith must miss him horribly.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
One could almost say, that his mouth is writing checks that his ass can’t cash, a phrase that has fallen out of favor around here.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Steeplejack: He’s ruined the word “beautiful” forever
Duane
Pelosi looks like she’s about to spit a 16 penny nail.
Corner Stone
I agree with Goku’s earlier comment which has since been deleted.
Steeplejack
Uh-oh: $1.5 trillion infrastucture initiative. Every federal dollar should be leveraged with state and local and, “where appropriate,” with private investment. Any bill must also streamline the approval process.
“We will build gleaming new roads.” That doesn’t sound safe.
Adam L Silverman
So much for never forsaking Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands:
Aleta
American hands and American grift
The Thin Black Duke
And the rest of the civilized world is laughing at us. Putin’s bitch is doing a great job.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Baud:
They also sometimes drink the koolaid.
Mary G
Betsy DeVos reminds me of the mom in “Get Out.”
Steeplejack
“Let’s support working families by supporting paid family leave.” I can’t believe the Rethugs are applauding this!
magurakurin
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Checks you signed with love and kisses. Later come back signed “insufficient funds”
Aleta
Thanks Ivanka for inventing paid family leave.
Gretchen
@Corner Stone: I’ll have you know that Oscar de la Renta designed that farmhouse tablecloth that Ivanka was wearing. It still looks like a tablecloth from a not-very-prosperous farmhouse. It’s amazing that she can spend thousands of dollars on a dress and still look tacky.
Steeplejack
“Reforming our prisons to help inmates who have served their time get a second chance at life.” Standing ovation?! Okay, he’s just trolling the Democrats now.
Spanky
Not watching. Not gonna. Are we bombing North Korea yet?
I half expect the Trump version of “Hallelujah, hallelujah, the missiles are (sniff) flying.”
Steeplejack
Okay, back to the red meat. Parents in the gallery whose kids were murdered by MS-13. Weeping on cue.
Adam L Silverman
And here comes the blood and soil, herrenvolk portion of the speech.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
HE’S RUNNING TO THE LEFT OF HILLARY AGAIN!
Bill Arnold
Did he say that ex-cons will be getting the right to vote? Seriously, what is the proposal here re ex-cons?
Baud
@Steeplejack: Didn’t work for Ed Gillespie.
Steeplejack
Extended applause to honor these parents. But the Republicans in Congress won’t do a goddamn thing.
Also, unknown loud-clapping person, step the fuck away from the live-feed microphone.
TriassicSands
I just tuned in and Trump’s facial expressions and body language remind me so much of Mussolinie.
Il Duce and Ill Douche. What a pair.
I can’t watch or listen to much of this without getting sick. Over the years, the SOTU has morphed into a joke — nearly every line is an applause line. When the speaker is the greatest liar in American political history nothing he says can be taken seriously. And when his party is the most corrupt and incompetent in our history, the applause is meaningless.
Cheryl Rofer
SOTUs are at least partly wish lists. But usually a president will say “And I will send a bill to Congress outlining…” None of that. Just a wish list. One of his campaign speeches barely cleaned up.
Now a two minutes’ hate toward MS-13.
Mike in DC
The immigration turn just killed the energy in the room and turned it really dark.
mai naem mobile
@Steeplejack: nah, he’s looking out for Jared and Donny Junior.
JWR
@Steeplejack:
Yeah. Isn’t it gleaming new skyscrapers?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Please, United Nations, please sanction us for this human rights violation. We deserve it.
The climate we’re in right now is not sustainable. You can’t govern a country like this for long, where 2/3 of the populace hate your guts and want a political party gone, yet stubbornly hang onto power. This limbo we’re in where we pretend this is a democracy is already straining. Just declare martial law and be done with it or go home. The Republicans don’t get to have it both ways.
The rest of the world will not simply bend to their will. There is a limit to what a single nation can do and they are pissing away 70 years of goodwill for nothing. Does Paul Ryan really think the United States is still going to be on top after all this?
Steeplejack
“Close the deadly loopholes that have allowed MS-13 to come into our country.” Here we go.
Corner Stone
@Steeplejack: It’s Trump clapping. You do know, right?
SFAW
@magurakurin:
As we used to say in college, fuck THAT shit. The Jem’Hadar were highly competent, and had a moral (albeit harsh) code.
Shitgibbon would fuck over anyone and anything, if he thought it would improve his grift by the eensiest amount, and has yet to (intentionally) tell the truth since he started his campaign.
p.a.
no invasion of Grenada to unify us yet?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Steeplejack: obvious code to future Ex-Cons Manafort and Flynn
Mary G
@Gretchen: It makes me itchy just seeing it on TV.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Fine, I, Adam L. Silverman, hereby declare martial law. I’m now going home. Happy now?//
JWR
@Steeplejack: It’s Trump hisself.
Adam L Silverman
And he just redefined Dreamers from the people covered under the DACA EO to Americans, who are Dreamers too.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Aleta: I thought Ivanka invents chinese slave labor
Corner Stone
Half this speech is just calling out first responders in the audience.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: Considering MS-13 was founded in the US, I’m not sure that’s going to work.
Steeplejack
Uh-oh, honoring an ICE agent in the gallery. Can’t wait to hear this back-story.
“His team has arrested more than 400, including more than 200 gang members.” Wonder if that includes the schoolkids and 7-Eleven clerks recently rounded up.
Mary G
Very low energy crowd.
Bill Arnold
Anyone else imagining seal noises while he claps?
El Caganer
@Steeplejack: Sounds like W. C. Fields’ “streams of beer through fields of waving alfalfa.”
TriassicSands
“…race, religion, and creed…”
Someone should tell Bozo that religion and creed are the same thing.
Corner Stone
@Steeplejack: He ran out of game tags and just went with it.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
Wasn’t hearing it before. Just in the last few minutes. But, yeah, I guess.
hueyplong
Cut the guy some slack. When he claps, he’s hitting a very small target.
magurakurin
@SFAW:
A Ferengi then?
Not sure if this is okay to say or not, but Deep Space Nine is way, way better than Next Generation.
JWR
@Corner Stone:
I’d say that’s about right.
Corner Stone
Lil Marco does not seem too happy.
Steeplejack
Can I just say as an aside that a 10- or 12-year “path to citizenship” is bullshit? These Dreamers have been vetted so much that they probably should be granted summary citizenship tomorrow in any sane world.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@magurakurin: you mean you just don’t show up and vote? You have to register first? I thought there was no assigned seating.
SFAW
@Steeplejack:
… Scottish women to come (illegally) to the USA to give birth to moran anchor babies, offspring of a second-generation German undesirable — Bavaria didn’t send us their best! — who was a beneficiary of chain migration. No more, I say — NO MORE!! Wait, what? ”
At least, I think it was Bavaria.
Corner Stone
GREAT WALL!! Jager Bombs it is!!
TriassicSands
There is no good reason for it to take 12 years for Dreamers to become citizens.
Steeplejack
“Horrible and dangerous practice of catch and release.” Word salad.
Cheryl Rofer
@p.a.: The longest part so far (and still going) is conflating all immigration with MS-13.
magurakurin
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: yeah, it’s like a drum circle.
Adam L Silverman
@magurakurin: It is.
SFAW
@magurakurin:
Shitgibbon’s such an anti-Semite, so maybe that’s the right choice.
Corner Stone
Man, we are deep into Stephen Miller territory right about now.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@magurakurin:
I can vouch for that too. Currently in the beginning of the last season. Really liked how they fleshed out a bunch of alien races, unlike TNG. As much as I liked it, little from TNG can compare to “It’s Only a Paper Moon”.
Aleta
Not a word about people being sent back to El Salvador after risking their lives to escape MS-13.
Chris
@Steeplejack:
MS-13 was born in our country. We’re the ones who exported it to Central America, not the other way around.
ETA: damn it, Adam beat me to it.
Mary G
Orwell has got to be spinning in his grave. “We will protect the nuclear family by ending chain migration.”
Cheryl Rofer
Steeplejack
“Merit-based immigration system.”
Various commenters around the Interwebs have begun to study how many of these members of Congress have immigrants in their own family woodpiles. Chained migration! Did you know that Joe Arpaio was an anchor baby?
Corner Stone
Who is clapping for this racist bullshit?
SFAW
@hueyplong:
Excellent point.
But not as small as if he tried to punch himself in the dick, however.
JWR
Our 4th “pillar” protects the Nuclear Family by ending “Chain Visas”? Say f***ing whut?!!
Duane
@Mike in DC: Protect the nuclear family? Did he really think he’d get away with that?
Steeplejack
“My pledge: to sign a[n immigration] bill that puts America first.” What the hell does that even mean?
SiubhanDuinne
He hasn’t the faintest notion of how the GC lottery works, does he?
Corner Stone
“Four Pillars”.
That sounds like a call back to some book Bannon or Stephen Miller falls asleep to each night.
magurakurin
@SFAW: Don’t you just know that he hates Jared intensely…I mean Jared got his precious Ivanka to convert. The things he must think about Jared are no doubt odious. There is no way he is okay with their Judaism. No way at all.
Cheryl Rofer
Steeplejack
Opioids. “We must get much tougher on drug dealers and pushers.” Yeah, that’ll solve it. God, this is 1980s Law and Order.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Cheryl Rofer: And as Fallows noted on twitter, that’s not accidental at all.
Imma go try to find an emotional support scorpion after all.
Mary G
Politician’s website has crashed.
Adam L Silverman
It would be much easier to believe his seriousness regarding opioid addiction if the Office of Drug Control Policy wasn’t being run by a 24 year old who was fired from his menial job at a law firm for failing to show up for work.
Steeplejack
Biggest challenges bring out the best in Americans. Yeah, no. But let’s have the illustrative story of the Albuquerque policeman in the gallery. I can’t wait.
Aleta
oh no
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Cheryl Rofer:
Uh oh. Get ready to catch Trump after he’s stroked out from that Paulie. No one disses the Donald!
magurakurin
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
also, too…Trials and Tribble-ations
SFAW
@magurakurin:
See, I’m torn on the Jared question: does Shitgibbon hate him because he’s Jewish? Or because Jared (theoretically) gets to schtupp Ivanka regularly?
All of ’em, Katie?
Steeplejack
Oh, this is the guy sitting next to Melania. I though he was her studmuffin.
He and his wife apparently adopted a drug user’s infant, although Trump bungled the story so that it’s not quite clear.
Adam L Silverman
@SFAW: All of them.
LanceThruster
@Amir Khalid:
He’s commenting on how awful Trump is, and pointing out those areas Dems enable him.
Chris
@SiubhanDuinne:
No, but good news – neither do any of his supporters!
Steeplejack
Dump the sequester and “fully fund our great military.” Why didn’t anyone else think of that?
Corner Stone
@SFAW:
That giraffe neck though…
Adam L Silverman
Ben Carson claps funny.
Mary G
More nuclear bombs!
Steeplejack
Uh-oh. Upgrade our nuclear arsenal. Rocket Man, here we come!
West of the Rockies (been a while)
I’m not watching.
Is he still waxing moronic?
Steeplejack
Did you know we have reclaimed “almost 100%” of the land held until recently by ISIS? Yeah, we have. “But there is much more work to be done.” Oh, Christ, and another thematically related hero in the gallery.
Cheryl Rofer
He wants more nukes.
SFAW
@Adam L Silverman:
Grifted hands,
JWR
And who’s the shouty GOPer, the one who beats the applause by shouting “Yeah!” before it kicks in?
Corner Stone
So there’s no actual policy agenda here besides spending $1.5T on infrastructure and name checking first responders and military heroes.
Gravenstone
@Steeplejack: Wisconsin Foxconn says hello!
SFAW
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Is it a day ending in “Y”?
Steeplejack
Some stylish guy in a suit next to the hero is chewing gum. Dude, ruins the effect.
Gravenstone
@Corner Stone: Was just noticing they’d slicked his hair back, to look like Eric! Poor kid. Hope he gets all the therapy he’s gonna need.
magurakurin
@Steeplejack: small quibble…Law and Order is a 90’s show…scary, I know. Seems like it should be older…but then I realize it’s me who’s older. I love watching how the telephones slowly change in the seasons of that show as the cell phones rapidly became adopted. The first season has Logan looking for pay phones to make calls…in 1990
Steeplejack
“Terrorists are not merely criminals. They are unlawful enemy combatants.” And? But a major applause line. WTF.
Steeplejack
“In the past we have foolishly released hundreds and hundreds of dangerous terrorists, only to meet them again on the battlefield.”
Matt McIrvin
@Steeplejack: In Republican-speak that means you can and should torture them.
Bill Arnold
@Cheryl Rofer:
More, bigger nukes.
magurakurin
@SFAW:
lol…bwahahaha…probably the schtupping though
Gravenstone
@Steeplejack: “Veterans” is a magic totem for Republicans. Until they become inconvenient, demanding healthcare and housing and food and shit. Then they’re just another freeloader.
Corner Stone
Trump is running out of energy. They better wrap this up quickly.
Steeplejack
Keep Guantánamo open! “Yeah!” from the audience.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: Only Americans can immigrate to the US.
Steeplejack
“Our warriors in Afghanistan have new rules of engagement.” Can we just have soldiers, not “warriors”?
magurakurin
@Mary G: well, duh. That’s how were gonna make more nuclear families. Like that one mutant guy in the first season of Heroes…many more like that.
Steeplejack
Damn it, I need another drink, but I’m pinned down on live-blogging duty. Medic!
Corner Stone
This has taken a weird second half turn.
JWR
Yeah, it’s time to take the gloves off, just like Bush the Smaller and Tony Blair did 16+ years ago. (‘Cause it worked so well the last time.)
Bill Arnold
@Steeplejack:
That was wingnut talking point code/leadup for Guantanamo and torture.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: Actually as the guy who did the terrorism and recidivism briefing for SOCOM’s Operations Directorate back in 2009, I can unequivocally say this is not true.
Steeplejack
Okay, making a drink run to the kitchen. Cover me!
Mary G
God, shut up already.
Corner Stone
Uh oh! NoKo!!
Mike in DC
Jesus. It really is the Archie Bunker presidency. Early Archie, at that.
Omnes Omnibus
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:
I could use one as well.
Cheryl Rofer
I am getting to the point where my brain can no longer track his words. The bizarre intonation, the repetitiousness, the need for groups of three, groups of three, groups of three, the favorite words (great, beautiful will be banned from presidential speeches in the future), the total lack of theme. It’s so much work to track.
Just now, for example: The JCPOA is the worst deal in the world, but Venezuela is worse, and North Korea is worse than that.
Aleta
state of confusion cause what about Russia
psycholinguist
@Corner Stone: really strange right? he’s slowing down and slurring his speech. past his bedtime by about three hours i guess.
Steeplejack
I’m back. “Mistakes of past administrations that got us in this dangerous position.” Let me guess—Korea?
ETA: Nailed it.
Corner Stone
@Steeplejack: He’s talking about WarmBeer so you have a minute to retrench.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Normally it is Chinese officials who do the groups of three patterns in their official speeches. Then within the groups of three, they like to break things down into reciprocal/relational pairs.
Corner Stone
@psycholinguist: He’s pausing at strange points. I thought he was going to stop before announcing the family there for a second. That was almost two seconds before he continued.
Steeplejack
God, parents of the American kid held prisoner in North Korea who later died are in the gallery. Again, weeping. Maybe not on cue, but why in the fuck put yourself through this?!
JWR
Love to see a breakdown of this “speech”, highlighting how much of it was dedicated to policy, vs. how much to congratulating audience members.
Corner Stone
This is just sick.
Neldob
He is so cruel how he has displayed grieving parents and families. What an unbelievably sickening spectacle.
Steeplejack
Okay, this story about the North Korean urchin (grown up now, in the gallery, of course) sounds like complete bullshit. He “endured multiple amputations.” That should be a small integer number, right?
Steeplejack
“What the regime fears most—truth.” Talking about North Korea or us? Not clear.
Soprano2
Can doctors grow new legs for people now? I’d have thought we’d know about that if it were true.
Corner Stone
Did he just say 150 years ago?
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: That would be more interesting.
Gravenstone
@Cheryl Rofer: No one introduce him to the Fallout game series. He’ll demand we start collecting mini-nukes.
Corner Stone
Stephen Miller take a bow on this part.
Steeplejack
Goddamn it, housecat demanding supper No. 2. Honey, we’re on deadline here! Kitchen run.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Usually it is. Because they’re very, very good at being patronizing and insulting while making it sound like they’re being complimentary and welcoming.
Steeplejack
Oh, fuck. Rethugs breaking out into rhythmic clapping and “USA! USA! USA!” This is a complete farce.
JWR
USAUSAUSA! Yee-Hawww!
Mike in DC
@Corner Stone: “The battle with the guards…was magnificent. Your…skill…is…extraordinary. And…I was going to ask you…to join us.” Shih Kien memorized all his English dialogue in Enter the Dragon phonetically, because he spoke no English.
psycholinguist
@Corner Stone: I swear I think his dentures are coming loose.
Corner Stone
Somebody needs to get the hook out and ready. Trump is about to run out of batteries.
Cheryl Rofer
Trump gets what he wants: The Republicans chant USA USA USA USA USA
Really
Adam L Silverman
The GOP Congressman and Senators are actually screaming USA! USA!
What is this a pro wrestling match with Hacksaw Jim Duggan?
Bill Arnold
Feels about 80 percent praise of audience members and Real Americans to make malignant points (many of which are wingnut talking points or Trump campaign talking points), 15 percent praise of himself, and 5 percent policy. I haven’t heard a single coherent policy proposal, just a few promises, but wasn’t paying full attention. The North Korea bit about how previous presidents failed was very scary to hear out loud.
Steeplejack
All of these police, military and first responders that Trump is rhapsodizing about are government employees. How does he square this circle? Never mind. Question never comes up.
SiubhanDuinne
“USA! USA!! USA! USA!!”
Holy fuck.
Corner Stone
@Mike in DC: The people…dreamed this country. The people…built this country. And it is the people…making this country…great again.
Lizzy L
I’m out. Time to settle down with a good book.
Aleta
Just doin’ the lord’s work giving the Religious right the go ahead to lift up all these people in churchly prayer.
Anne Laurie
@Steeplejack:
Nicorette, maybe?
Goddess knows I’d need something to get me through this without causing a scene, and the Capital screeners don’t permit flasks…
Bill Arnold
How many “USAs” after he finished? 10?
Steeplejack
Okay, if a bomb went off in the chamber—just blue-skyin’ here—yeah, we’d lose some Democrats, but, silver lining, that would open up the field for the young leadership we’ve been wanting in the party. Just sayin’.
Cheryl Rofer
Corner Stone
@Bill Arnold:
It wasn’t actually coherent, but the only policy he actually put it out there was $1.5T for infrastructure. The immigration stuff wasn’t actual policy goals.
Steeplejack
And we’re done. I am spent. Will now go back and actually read the thread. [Slurps drink.]
Gravenstone
@Adam L Silverman: Question is, who stage managed that? My money is one of the Kings, they’re about that dense. Although some Freedumb Caucus back bencher looking for their moment in the spotlight also applies.
Anne Laurie
@Adam L Silverman:
What, you expect Trump’s Troops to be able to tell all those brown people apart?
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: Are you watching Designated Survivor?
Cheryl Rofer
Okay y’all. I’ll turn the after-speech duty over to whoever wants it. I’m gonna go sit with my kittehs and read the paper.
El Caganer
@Soprano2: Isn’t that one of those things that Frederick Douglass is getting recognized for more and more?
Corner Stone
Maddow calls it a “lumbering pace”. HA!
/tweety
Steeplejack
No mention at all of either Russia or the Russia investigation, it suddenly dawns on me.
El Caganer
I gotta stand up and admit I’m in awe: he has succeeded in turning the State of the Union address to Congress into one of his MAGA rallies full of braying pinheads. Is there anything this man can’t do?
Neldob
I need a drink.
Another Scott
@Corner Stone: I didn’t watch the speech.
Repost from a few days ago. RollCall:
It’s a scam. Of course.
Cheers,
Scott.
Corner Stone
@El Caganer:
See his pen!s when he’s naked and looks down?
Mary G
Second longest SOTU in history.
Omnes Omnibus
@Neldob: Don’t we all? Just for living in this country since November of ’16.
Adam L Silverman
I just put up a fresh thread for the official Democratic responses by VA Delegate Guzman and Congressman Kennedy.
Corner Stone
@Another Scott: Of course it’s a fucking scam. But that was it. That was all there was in this almost hour long lumbering speech. The rest was callouts.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: One reference to Russia, in the same sentence as China, as a rising threat. That was it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: Well played.
Corner Stone
@Steeplejack: I may have missed it but did he even mention Melania?
Mike in DC
Fuck, that was a terrible speech. Terrible on substance, terrible as written, terrible delivery.
Adam L Silverman
@Gravenstone: I have no idea.
Adam L Silverman
@Anne Laurie: Given LTG McMaster has a copy of that briefing somewhere…
Adam L Silverman
@Mary G: And not in actual amount of words. Just in pauses for applause.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: He mentioned her in his greeting at the beginning of his speech between the congressional leadership and the American people. Referred to her as the First Lady, not by name.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
So has it been called “Presidental” yet?
I am so disappointed no Trump call out to Stormy Daniels or the Gorilla Channel.
Mike in DC
Ginger Christopher Reeve doing pretty good so far.
debbie
@Steeplejack:
Thanks for your commentary. I couldn’t bear to watch it myself.
Corner Stone
@debbie: Hey! I took a bullet in my ceramic plate inserts, too!
Bill Arnold
@Bill Arnold:
I forgot about the scaremongering about MS-13 and North Korea.
Revised estimate: 70 percent praise of audience members and Real Americans to make malignant points (many of which are wingnut talking points or Trump campaign talking points), 15 percent praise of himself, 10 percent scaremongering, and 5 percent policy.
burnspbesq
@Jonny Scrum-half:
Making sure that people know that number is a fucking lie is how we’re going to win.
At least make some effort to stay in touch with reality,
Adam L Silverman
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Here you go:
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Cheryl Rofer: sounds like “The Gorilla Channel”
Jonny Scrum-half
@Inventor: Yes. Mine probably will, too. But for people who are benefitting, telling them that they’re not isn’t going to work.
mai naem mobile
@psycholinguist: Dr Ronnie Jackson M.D. said he didn’t have dentures.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Wilmer is on youtube right now, struggling with the teleprompter and denouncing “Huggies”
J R in WV
Well, I’ve been watching and listening to Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concertos, now on the Third, Opus 30, played by Anna Fedorova at the Concertgebow in the Netherlands.Young woman, attractive, killing it on a giant Steinway & Sons piano.
I watched and listened to about 45 seconds of Drumpf’s missive, I caught the part where he promised that he would have a bill to Congress to stop paying foreign aid to countries who are Not Our Friends, that we gave away 60 Billion dollars to countries that voted against us in the UN, and THAT WAS GOING TO STOP!!!
I also saw where the Korean expert who had been expected to take the position of ambassador to South Korea got fired for disapproving of starting a war on the Korean peninsula, before even being officially appointed.
I stopped there, and I expect that since I was watching a broadcast via an antenna up on the ridge I won’t affect his ratings at all. Back to Ms Fedorova’s most excellent piano playing.
Adam L Silverman
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: In his case shouldn’t that be depends.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Lights went out at Wilmer’s studio.
(no joke)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ibkHGRyaQ
Ooooof
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
No. I was tempted, but I’m trying to cut down on my network TV viewing. And Kiefer Sutherland burned me bad on the interminable later 24 seasons.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
Yeah, at the very beginning, when he was acknowledging his audience.
Steeplejack
@Adam L Silverman:
Fuck you, Frank Luntz, you fucking fuck. Better be taking tumbrel-riding lessons.
Steeplejack
@debbie:
Thank you. As a shoe-leather newspaper reporter back in the day I sat through many an awful speech. Being able to do it at home with liquor and no pants is a walk in the park.
debbie
@Corner Stone:
You were particularly pithy tonight. Thanks to you too.
Corner Stone
@Steeplejack:
One of us! One of us! One of us!
Corner Stone
I am pushing this thread to four bells all by myself if I have to.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
As efgoldman so wisely put it, putting on pants and taking off pants is hard work. I’m streamlining my life.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
Ding, ding, ding! Er, ding.
LanceThruster
@Amir Khalid:
Don’t watch that much TYT but know I agree with Jimmy on most things. His critiques of both the Kennedy and Bernie rebuttal was spot on. He called Bernie out for his Russiagate claims and war votes. The Bernie Bro dig is a bit tired.