For all the focus on Trump, the fundamental issue is that Ryan & McConnell are letting Cotton & Goodlatte drive the immigration legislation process rather than letting a bipartisan deal get made.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) January 13, 2018
.
Never stop reminding people: Trump is not an “aberration”; Trump is every Republican when the rest of us aren’t in the room. Their only problem with Trump is that he neglects to use his inside voice when the cameras are rolling.
Trump's shithole comments were 'unhelpful,' Paul Ryan said. But when Obama came out against Trump's Muslim ban, Ryan said he 'degraded the presidency' https://t.co/vowkanlUtG
— Bill Grueskin (@BGrueskin) January 14, 2018
Tom Cotton and David Perdue: Hear no evil
Rand Paul: Speak no evil
Donald Trump: See, no evil— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 14, 2018
.@RandPaul tells me "You can't have an immigration compromise if everyone is out there calling the president a racist" #MTP
— Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) January 14, 2018
Not _everyone_ is calling him a racist. For instance, no Congressional Republicans are calling him a racist. https://t.co/Dyrl7QqtKd
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) January 14, 2018
Rand Paul, who said he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, has decided to become Donald Trump's character witness on racism. Yeah, everything is fine now.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) January 14, 2018
On @FaceTheNation, @SenTomCotton says he "didn't hear" Trump using reported slur. He said previously that he did not recall. I am learning so much about the human brain and ears this morning!
— Ali Rogin (@AliABCNews) January 14, 2018
David Perdue—who said in a statement Friday he didn’t recall if Trump said “shithole countries”—changes his story today on @ThisWeekABC and says Trump “did not use that word.”
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 14, 2018
The senator from Kentucky thinks racism isn't worth talking about and the senators from Arkansas and Georgia don't even notice it. Stay on brand, Dixie.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) January 14, 2018
DHS Sec. Kirstjen Nielsen was in the room, but says can't recall whether Trump made "shithole countries" remark pic.twitter.com/lLbijwmlep
— Axios (@axios) January 14, 2018
Benchmark /reality check: Almost 40 yrs later, I can remember specific colorful phrases / moments from a president in the Oval Office.
That you “wouldn’t recall” a term like “shithole" 3 days later is … flatly not believable, for anyone of normal sentience.
NB: Sen. Cotton https://t.co/5pn3ThOsgz— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) January 14, 2018
Sen. @JeffFlake tells @GStephanopoulos he heard directly from participants in that Oval Office meeting “those words were used” by President Trump, “before those words went public.” pic.twitter.com/5HdhXSKfAx
— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) January 14, 2018
Even the Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzers are giving these dudes side-eye!
It’s weird that people in the room don’t remember Trump using that word when Trump himself was calling friends to brag about it afterwards. I spoke to one of those friends. The President thought it would play well with the base.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 14, 2018
“I don’t recall” is just the coward’s way of avoiding the perils of crossing Trump or his base. If he didn’t say it and Durbin claimed otherwise, they’d remember it and call Durbin a liar. https://t.co/DtSWmJ6V8t
— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) January 14, 2018
Well, the smarter ones, at least…
CLARIFICATION: @RichLowry says on @ThisWeekABC that @realDonaldTrump actually said "shit house" countries, not "shit hole" countries during WH immigration meeting
— Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff) January 14, 2018
Someone please bookmark this tweet and add it to @MirriamWebster’s online definition of “distinction without a difference.” https://t.co/tHA1h35dJW
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) January 14, 2018
Jim, Foolish Literalist
if there’s an under-reported aspect to this story, it’s those two shitbirds being called over to rile up racist grampa before Graham and Durbin got there
Mnemosyne
For me, this is another of those uncrossable chasms. Anyone who thinks that the problem with what Trump said was that he used a naughty word and not that he said we should not permit immigration from those countries is someone who has voluntarily surrendered any moral authority. Period.
dmsilev
And just so everyone is clear, Ryan said that _Obama_ degraded the Presidency by speaking out against Trumps’s proposed Muslim ban.
Hypothetical question: What would it take to get the political media to stop taking Ryan’s pretenses towards policy aptitude seriously?
Patricia Kayden
I assume that it was Senator Durbin who leaked what Trump said about African countries and Haiti during that meeting since it’s obvious that Republicans have no problem with racism and their racist President. Good on Durbin for not letting another example of Trump’s racism stay private. Trump should figure out by now that nothing is private when you’re Commander-in-Chief. He should have stayed a private citizen if he valued his privacy so much.
Ryan
Chuck Todd needs to go.
Patricia Kayden
@dmsilev:
Our MSM is broken. The American MSM needs to mimic their colleagues in the Netherlands who hounded crazy Rightwinger so much about his anti-Muslim lies that he was forced to retract them. That’s how you do it.
Ryan
@dmsilev: For him to have a D before his name.
p.a.
@dmsilev:
We were talking about the dry Scandinavian sense of humor just yesterday…
Ryan
Trump’s base is at best 30%. What is wrong with you people/?
dmsilev
So, Congress has five days to pass a spending bill or the government shuts down. Democrats want a fix to the Trump-created DACA mess to be part of that. The nativist wing of the GOP really hates brown people, and the Paul Ryan types either secretly agree with them or are too afraid of them to say no. And with Trump basically pulling down his pants and mooning the country with his shithole comment, he’s not exactly Mr. Dealmaker right now. This week is going to be …interesting.
OzarkHillbilly
I think you mean he neglects to shut his inside voice the fuck up.
Jeffro
That stupid “thanks Trumpov for all the wingnut judges” ad just ran again. I may have to look into where this particular wingnut ad sponsor lives and leave a flaming bag of poo on his doorstep
MisterForkbeard
@Patricia Kayden: Hard to do here. Trump/Ryan/Republicans in general just lie SO MUCH here that you can’t keep hounding them for weeks about a single instance of lying… you’d ignore all the other 90 lies that happen in the meantime.
Ryan
@dmsilev: If he isn’t golfing…
tobie
@Ryan: So true. How can we make this happen? A letter writing campaign? Calls to NBC corporate headquarters? I make a point of never watching Meet the Press on weekdays or weekends but as Morning Joe reveals, ratings have nothing to do with NBC’s editorial decisions.
hellslittlestangel
@Ryan: Without that 30% they can’t win an election. It’s hate or go home for Republicans. That they accept this is what’s wrong with them.
Yarrow
@Patricia Kayden:
JohnO
Atrios’ latest headline is good for a laugh.
The modern Republican party is a cesspool of our lesser angels.
p.a.
How long before trump’s handlers have to completely isolate him from any non-wingnut contact? Getting close already… possibly working on ‘holodeck’ technology to let him function in an election-rally continuous loop.
Steeplejack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That was supposedly orchestrated by Stephen Miller, which brings up another underreported aspect, i.e., chief of staff John Kelly’s gatekeeping skills and criteria.
Yarrow
Speaking of shitbirds.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: and the new DHS secretary, I believe a Kelly protege, says she’s offended anyone could accused trump of being a racist. Cause she’s never heard of birtherism.
Steeplejack
@dmsilev:
Apparently you missed what El Presidente said this morning.
Suzanne
@Yarrow: And my dog’s turds seem more intelligent than Convicted Felon Dinesh D’Sousa.
NotMax
If their short-term memory is that diminished, they are incapable of performing their job in any way approaching adequately and ought to retire from office to allow their constituents more cranially competent representation.
japa21
Tangentially related to all this, because it was inspired by Trump’s comments. everybody might benefit from reading the latest posting from Penzeys. It is long, so I won’t put down too much of it. This particular paragraph stands out.
Read it all. https://www.facebook.com/Penzeys/posts/10156190057307834:0
MisterForkbeard
@japa21: I love Penzey’s. Awesome products, awesome people.
Thoughtful David
@Yarrow: Someone misspelled his name. Correctly spelled it’s “Felon Dinesh D’Souza.” Let that never be forgotten.
Tata
Love Penzey’s. I’ll make an order tomorrow.
Suzanne
Woohoo Penzeys! Maybe I’ll go buy myself something next week.
Yarrow
@Suzanne: i love Penzey’s. If you go by tomorrow you can get a free Mini Soul box. You don’t even have to buy anything. Free if you go to a store. You have to pay for shipping if you order online.
Jeffro
@Yarrow: the self-hate is strong with that one
RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp)
Since it’s an open thread I thought I’d throw a query out to the BJ hive mind: I’m making political buttons and would like to find a straight-forward, reasonably-priced graphic design program. Any suggestions?
Suzanne
@RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp): Some people really like Pixelmator or CorelDraw. I am a snob and only like the Adobe suite.
Hercule Triathlon
Interesting how much traction this whole story has been getting. Big even by Trumpian standards huh?
Suzanne
@Yarrow: I love Penzeys, too. My spice cabinet is overflowing.
Mnemosyne
@Yarrow:
I’ll go there: at least Chelsea Clinton knows how birth control works.
zhena gogolia
@japa21:
I loved that. I just had Penzey-paprika goulash for dinner.
Yarrow
@Suzanne: Mine too. I was looking for cinnamon to put on oatmeal this morning and realized I have something like four different Penzey’s cinnamons.
Peale
@Yarrow: I know that children are supposed to be off limits for decent people, but…I can’t help notice that that rule only applies to us and they’ve been mocking Chelsea for her looks since she was a teen. Can we get a picture of d’Souza’s children out there so we can mock them mercilessly? Or is that gouche.
Jeffro
@Mnemosyne: ????
Jeffro
@Peale: just mock him for his looks, and wait until he jumps off of a bridge in despair
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Peale: you can probably find his mug shot on line, should provide all the fodder necessary
(am I the only one who wants to throw a shoe at the TeeVee when these Bud Light “dilly dilly” commercials come on?)
Mnemosyne
@Yarrow:
D’Souza must be a exhibitionist masochist, because I don’t see any other reason for him to invite as much punishment as he’s getting in that Twitter thread. Can’t he just get a hair shirt and scourge himself till he bleeds like a normal person?
cmorenc
@dmsilev:
Well, perhaps if he was found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl. OTOH, Tom Cotton would deny the boy was alive or the girl was dead.
Frankensteinbeck
Nailed it. McConnell and Ryan don’t just put up with his racism. They agree with it, but are smart enough not to make that a public issue.
Patricia Kayden
@dmsilev: Democrats should hang tough. They have nothing to lose if the government shuts down. Republicans control Congress. They can pass whatever they want on their own.
Shana
This seems appropriate.
Adria McDowell
Please….Bristol is far younger than I am, and she’s already on her third face. She was basic before, she’s basic now- to say nothing of her “intelligence.”
Patricia Kayden
@Mnemosyne: Or he could commit another crime and go back to jail.
schrodingers_cat
@dmsilev: Nothing. Judy Woodruff and David Brooks were already lying on the behalf of Rs on immigration. I have to say that Mark Shields was better than usual this week.
Yarrow
@Peale: It’s still wrong to pick on someone’s kids just because their dad is an asshole. If the kids decide to become public figures on their own, then that’s a different issue. However the irony of D’Souza calling anyone horse-faced has not escaped most people.
@Mnemosyne: I wonder if his star has declined somewhat and he’s using the common wingnut technique of upping the outrage in hopes of getting booked on TV to “defend himself” so that he can promote whatever his latest grift project is.
Shana
@Shana: Link doesn’t work because I’m terrible at this sort of thing. It was to a live version of TMBG’s “Your Racist Friend” with video of tRump with Christie in the background looking horrified.
Ruckus
@Patricia Kayden:
Did he actually learn anything other than how to keep his mouth shut? Did one of his racist positions change? And of course the answers are no. Yes it’s a step. Yes every trip takes a first step. But his journey is hundreds of years of bad history long, not just one step. And they are incapable of learning fast enough. Many are incapable of learning anything other than to double down.
Omnes Omnibus
@Shana: Here you go.
Bonus track.
Patricia Kayden
@Yarrow: The Bristol Palin who had two kids out of wedlock? That Palin?
Frankensteinbeck
@Ryan:
That’s 100 million people, and they’re highly motivated to vote. That’s a huge, politics-dominating deal.
Yarrow
@Adria McDowell:
LOL. She has had a fair amount of work for someone so young.
Yarrow
@Patricia Kayden: That’s the one.
Shana
@Omnes Omnibus: Bless you.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Suzanne: “Ex-Con” better than “convicted felon”.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Holy cats!
Ruckus
@hellslittlestangel:
Accepting what works for them is not even close to the truth. They believe this shit with every fiber of their beings. They just saw 8 yrs of a country getting better and at the hands of a person of color. They can not believe that a POC could actually make the place better, could clean up the piles of shit they left behind. That is a full on racist shit. They are going to fuck all of us to both enrich themselves and their paymasters and to teach us that what we see with our own eyes is wrong, that racism is the only way.
Yarrow
Tom Cotton has dead eyes.
schrodingers_cat
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Goodlatte scuttled the last comprehensive immigration bill that came out of the senate.
@Steeplejack: Why do you think he wanted to keep Cotton out?
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Yarrow:
Indeed. Well, his chief motivation, after all, is inflicting judgment and swift punishment on those he finds wanting.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Yarrow: I get a huge Norman Bates vibe from that one
Frankensteinbeck
@dmsilev:
For them to not agree with him. He’s telling them what they want to hear, that if you treat math as a magical thing you don’t understand, screwing over the poor and minorities will be good for the country. The MSM loves the idea of cutting ‘entitlements.’
@Ruckus:
Nailed it in every detail.
JPL
OT.. Someone needs to pick up Debit off the floor and check on her animals. just sayin
Yarrow
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Agreed.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Me too. I’m sure he wants to run for president. I wonder how well the dead eyes will play on the national campaign stage.
Omnes Omnibus
@Shana: You are welcome.
Yarrow
@JPL: Why? What happened?
Ydobon
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Why not both … repetition helps for the kind of audience we are dealing with! Convicted Felon Ex-Con Dinesh D’Souza works for me!
raven
Just when you think you’ve seen it all. . .
raven
Unbelievable. The Saints lost the divisional-round playoff game to Minnesota on a play that was almost as unthinkable as Brett Favre’s interception that allowed the Saints to beat this team in the NFC title game eight years ago. A 61-yard TD pass to Stefon Diggs after rookie safety Marcus Williams lowered his shoulder to try and tackle him and completely whiffed — actually hitting CB Ken Crawley instead. Vikings win 29-24. Saints season ends.
Mike Triplett, ESPN Staff Writer
JPL
@Yarrow: Somehow the Vikings won.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Patricia Kayden:
The high school drop out? The paid abstinence only advocate? The one who put a gun near her baby?
He must mean a different bristol palin.
Kay
Just another day in crazytown.
Trump hires the worst people. That’s how you get on the Trump Administration short list- be the worst imaginable hire for any given position, nationally. They’re not just unqualified and bad at their jobs, they’re angry nutcases who have to be “physically escorted” off the premises.
Trump himself will probably have to be physically escorted off the premises at some point.
Yarrow
@raven: Wow. That’s one they’ll be talking about for a long time.
@JPL: Thanks.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Yarrow: Vikings pulled victory out of the jaws of defeat with an improbable last second play
RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp)
@Suzanne: Thanks! I’ll check them out.
Chyron HR
@Ruckus:
Republicans or the guy who ran in the 2016 Democratic primary on a platform of saving America from the failed Obama administration?
Gravenstone
@raven: I think Williams pulled off intentionally because it would have been clear defensive pass interference had he nailed the receiver before the ball arrived (which is how it timed out). Still, you gotta feel for the kid, because even if he draws the flag, Minn still needs to make the FG (assuming they could clock the ball to get the kicker on the field).
Gin & Tonic
Speaking of convicted felons, here’s RT tweeting convicted spy Chelsea Manning’s run for Senate in MD. Oddly, she’s running against Ben Cardin, who just this week released a very detailed report about Russian interference in our elections. I’m sure that wasn’t a factor in her candidacy.
Gravenstone
@Gin & Tonic: Don’t talk mean like that, or you’ll make Comrade Greenwald angry. He might even spare a scathing tweet about you (he’s already attacked others who have drawn similar conclusions).
Gin & Tonic
@Gravenstone: If I live another hundred years, I won’t find a second to give a shit about what Greenwald thinks.
danielx
@dmsilev:
Off the top of my head….nothing. Nothing is ever going change their mindset and portrayal of taking Paul Ryan seriously as a policy expert, and no amount of repeating “zombie eyed granny starver” is going to change that.
Gin & Tonic
@raven: I’m not a football fan, but sometimes I’ll watch a couple of playoff games. I had this on for the last few minutes, and that was one of the most exciting sports events I’ve ever seen.
Jeffro
@Kay: claw marks on the oval office door frame
Ohio Mom
@Shana: I was just going to say, link doesn’t work.
Yarrow
@Gin & Tonic: Did you see my reply to you in a previous thread about what Sweden is doing to counter disinformation?
HinTN
@Mnemosyne:
This exactly!
The Rude Pundit was all over it, too.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2018/01/america-shithole.html?m=1
JPL
@Gin & Tonic: The last two minutes the lead changed four times, or at least it seemed that way. If I was NO I would not have sent a team out for the extra point kick. What could they do, give them a personal foul.
Ohio Mom
@Omnes Omnibus: Thanks! I love TMBG.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Chyron HR:
yeah, who would want a 3rd term of obummer.
Gin & Tonic
@Yarrow: Yes I did, thanks. Ukraine has been dealing with that issue for some time now.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
From your lips to God’s ear.
Raven
@Gin & Tonic: that’s because you were not at the Rose Bowl with me!
Yarrow
@danielx: There is nothing that will change the media’s view of Paul Ryan as a policy expert. Nothing. He could be a serial murderer with bodies stored in his freezer and they’d bemoan the loss of such a great policy expert from Congress as he was hauled away in handcuffs. His traitorous actions with Russian can (and will) be exposed and they’ll talk about how sad it is for Congress to lose such a great mind for policy. There is nothing he can do that will change their view of him as a policy expert. Nothing at all.
Kay
@Jeffro:
One of the enablers was trying to defend Ivanka and Jared last week. Since they have no accomplishments they had to reach for what they have “sacrificed”. Did you ask them to take this latest nepotism position? I sure didn’t. They should immediately stop sacrificing and quit. Can you quit a fake job, really? They both could stop coming to work and no one would notice outside their household staff.
Yarrow
@Gin & Tonic: No surprise there!
Ohio Mom
@Gin & Tonic: Is your wife home yet?
Gin & Tonic
@Ohio Mom: Yes. See here.
Gin & Tonic
@Raven: I heard that was a good game too.
HinTN
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
No!
They are perfect Mad Ave product, though. You may not like the product or the ad but you notice the ad.
zhena gogolia
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Shoot, I thought Drumpf had dropped dead. I got all excited, and it turns out it’s some sports b.s.
raven
@Gin & Tonic: It was if you’re a Dawg and the OT’s happened right in your face!
raven
@zhena gogolia: Aww, too bad.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
debbie
@RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp):
Not sure what you’re looking for, and Abobe — while excellent– is very expensive, but GraphicConverter has a very good reputation.
JGabriel
Benchmark /reality check: Almost 40 yrs later, I can remember specific colorful phrases / moments from a president in the Oval Office.
That you “wouldn’t recall” a term like “shithole” 3 days later is … flatly not believable, for anyone of normal sentience.
NB: Sen. Cotton https://t.co/5pn3ThOsgz
— James Fallows (@JamesFallows) January 14, 2018
Ohio Mom
@Gin & Tonic: Excellent!
Shana
@Ohio Mom: One of these days I’ll get a daughter to show me how to do that when she’s over at the house.
The Dangerman
Anyone else screaming for the receiver to step out of bounds to allow for a field goal because surely you’re going to get tackled. Get out of bounds, fool … not.
One in a million. Surprised it doesn’t happen more often given the DB (Safety?) fucked up big, but it wasn’t an earth shattering fuckup. How is there not another player on the defense to clean up that mess….
scott alloway
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Agreed. Those Dilly Dilly ads annoy me to no end. WTF? As if I would drink Bud anything.
Kay
It’s funny what ends up defining them. Trump has said thousands of offensive, mean spirited things over his lifetime as a loud mouth celebrity conman and “shithole” somehow sticks. It’s a mysterious and arbitrary thing. I tend to think it’s not “A” word but instead more of a pile of shit that becomes too big and smelly to ignore. Each one makes you more likely to believe the next. No one ever says “Donald Trump!? HE said that?” like they would with Obama. Of course he did. Completely consistent with everything else he says and does.
Trump didn’t even have one of those set campaign pieces where someone comes out and says what a great guy he is- “he gave me my first job, he lent me money when my ma was sick, let me tell you this chopped down the cherry tree story that shows his honestly”. Because he’s never done anything like that. NO ONE over 70 years on the planet other than his children, who all work for him and never had another job.
Omnes Omnibus
@Hercule Triathlon: Fuck off.
raven
@The Dangerman: Ask that of the Georgia secondary.
Baud
@Hercule Triathlon:
I’ll pack your bags.
Can an FP clean this up?
debbie
@Hercule Triathlon:
Seems the sewer’s already here.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
for fuck’s sweet sake
JGabriel
via Anne Laurie @ Top:
I’m of two minds on this statement. On the one hand, I agree.
On the other, Republicans have degraded the national discourse so completely, so blatantly, and so assiduously over the past 3 decades that it almost seems plausible that it wouldn’t register as something colorful, or even worth committing to memory, for a Republican President to go on an 3 hour long rant stringing together obscenities, vulgarities, profanities, and racial slurs.
They’d probably just call it the 2018 Presidential State of the Union Address.
mike in dc
White Supremacist cleanup at comment 115.
Adria McDowell
@Kay: Damn it, I’m gonna say it- Ivanka Trump is worse than Sarah Palin. At least Sarah Palin has had a job that she didn’t get from Daddy or his cronies/hookups. Sure, she sucked at that job, but at least she got it on her own.
Hercule Triathlon
No argumentation, only censorship.
No logic, only outrage.
No refutation, only denunciation.
Such are the tactics of the Left.
Denounce and censor the likes of me now, but behold, those who came after me shall be utterly without principle–and use the same tactics you now use on me. As they, like you, believe there is no truth: only power.
When Nazis like Richard Spencer holds the shotgun of power, you will long for the days of the paleoconservative traditionalist.
Then, you will rue the day that you did not heed our warnings.
Ohio Mom
@Shana: Take careful notes.
Once we had to run to my MIL’s house because she was in a panic because her computer was making a really loud beeping noise. Her exact words were, “The computer is alarming.”
Ohio Dad, the computer engineer, took one quick look at the situation and picked up the dictionary that had been pushing down several of the F keys. Silence returned.
No one could be worse with computers than Ohio Grandma.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: I started reading that dreck, thinking it was going to make a reasonable point somewhere, and started composing a reply in my head. Then I read it all the way and realized yours is the only correct reply.
Baud
@Hercule Triathlon: Your a father now, Doug. Stop this.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Hercule Triathlon:
You walked into the wrong bar, bub. That shit don’t play here. Get the fuck out you racist.
mad citizen
We’ve bought spices two times in the last three weeks at Penzeys; our spice cabinet is also overflowing. We stopped in today because I was looking at pepper mills. I’ve never seen it as busy as it was today. Dang, was unaware of the mini-Soul box deal…
debbie
@Kay:
On the bright side, I bet there won’t be any more televised meetings.
Adria McDowell
@Hercule Triathlon: I’m sure you can fill us all in about what it’s like to live life knowing that the best part of you dribbled down your mother’s leg, but none of us are interested in anything you have to say.
Fuck off and eat pie now.
Omnes Omnibus
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: My condolences on your loss.
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I cannot believe they want to have this fight. Those two willingly decided to start a fight over “shithole” or “shithouse”.
One of them is saying she “can’t recall” which might be true. “he says a lot of stupid shit-maybe this, maybe that, I try not to listen to him”.
Gin & Tonic
@Hercule Triathlon: Deleted. Not worth it.
Duane
The DHS Secretary of Scandinavian descent wants immigrants that look like
her. Imagine that.
She’s offended Trump’s being called a racist. I’m offended she’s trying to play us for stupid. I think she’s a rascist. Hope that doesn’t offended her.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Hercule Triathlon:
What “censorship”? Your ideas are so self-evidently bullshit that people don’t feel the need to take you seriously.
Um, no. I don’t believe that.
Herbert furiously typed on his Windows 98 machine, the dankness of his parent’s basement not deterring him one bit. Those libtards would rue the day!
JGabriel
People! Stop feeding the
trollslime mold!Shana
@Ohio Mom: OK, I literally laughed out loud at that. It helps that I’m home alone this weekend. But still.
MomSense
Clean up on Aisle 115
Omnes Omnibus
Okay, I am calling shenanigans. It has to be a parody troll.
Kay
@debbie:
This meeting got rave reviews by media. Finally! Trump became the Strong Leader they knew he could be! They’re like some horrible, over-complimenting group of parents. They KNEW he could hold a meeting! The best part is he couldn’t. He RUINED the meeting. All he had to do was sit there and shut up and look alert and he couldn’t even manage that.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thanks.
Viva BrisVegas
@Hercule Triathlon:
Is DougJ still doing this stuff? Nobody else would try so hard to sound like a fuckwit.
At least in his case it was for entertainment purposes, what this is I don’t know. Maybe it’s a Stormfront concern troll.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kay: and shithole grew directly out of that meeting, because the hardliners like Cotton and Goodlatte were afraid he’d give the store away if Lindsey used that purty tongue of his on the old dotard
I could go for a savory pie, of the chicken pot variety. I’ve never had a steak and kidney pie. I’m curious, but I always thought you would want to make sure you were in a really good restaurant before you ordered one of those pies
p.a.
@Hercule Triathlon: so sayeth scumbags like you about every fucking wave of immigrants since the time we were British colonies…
ETA: good odds it’s DougJ!
Doug R
@Hercule Triathlon: Piss off, racist.
Kay
@Duane:
No she’s not. She’s offended because she works for Trump and people are calling him a racist, which reflects on her. It’s about them. That’s why they’ll defend anything he does-because if they don’t then they have to quit or they have no integrity. 100% about THEM. Not Trump. He’s almost irrelevant in this dance they’re doing.
Steeplejack
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t assume that Kelly wanted to keep Cotton (or Goodlatte) out. At this point I think it is probable that Kelly supports Trump’s racist agenda, or maybe some tunnel-vision “we’re just enforcing current law” subset of it that allows him to face himself in the mirror each morning. What I meant is that his gatekeeping and schedule-minding look awfully weak if a single White House aide can rejigger a top-level meeting so as to take some attendees by surprise about participants and agenda.
New York Post:
Even if Kelly fully supports the anti-immigration agenda, I wonder if, as a (former) career military officer with decades of command experience, he ever has a twinge of concern about a 32-year-old zealot stage-managing national policy with no apparent oversight?
Kelly came in as chief of staff to bring order out of chaos. Regardless of his political views, the “shithole” meeting setup was the opposite of orderly. And a return to chaos in the Oval Office has the potential to trigger much bigger problems than the president using coarse language to articulate his racist policies.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Hercule Triathlon:
Why? They’ve changed several times in the past and have resulted in the world we have now, good and bad. In the long run these things don’t really matter. We’re all people, who truly needs countries anyway?
Gin & Tonic
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’ve eaten kidneys, once, because you have to try things. But if you think for more than a half-second about the biological function a kidney performs in a mammal, you lose your appetite.
Adam L Silverman
@Hercule Triathlon:
eemom
@Gin & Tonic:
Oh God. I am so dreading that, because GG aside, it’s going to spark a sideshow about transphobia that has jack shit to do with the election.
Booger
@Hercule Triathlon: Grandiose much?
Viva BrisVegas
@Hercule Triathlon:
Here are some non-white persons at play proving you are a racist moron.
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I love that sort of food. I completely understand combining pie crust and root vegetables. Delicious! Inevitably.
This one reminds me of Brick Oven Bob which I always switched to Side Show Bob in my head.
Hercule Triathlon
@Viva BrisVegas:
Certain Asian cultures may imitate the brilliance of the Occident, but they never surpass it.
How long did you search before you gave up trying to find an African orchestra?
p.a.
Did you know race-concern trolls have their own food blog? 101 Ways to Make Wonder Bread and Miracle Whip Sandwiches.
Timurid
@Ryan:
His base consists of people who can end their careers with one phone call and people who could be waiting for them one night in the parking garage with a machete.
They will toe the line until they’re all out of toes.
Omnes Omnibus
@p.a.:
::gag::
Gin & Tonic
@eemom: I think it’s a pretty simple proposition: someone who has served for 12 years as a US Senator, or someone who was convicted of espionage against the US.
debbie
@Steeplejack:
Can’t Kelly fire Miller?
dmsilev
@Hercule Triathlon:
All right, this _has_ to be a spoof.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic: Manning is not going anywhere. It’s only a question of how much slime she throws.
Another Scott
Thanks again to Cleek and M^4 for the Pie Filter. This place would be nearly unbearable without it.
Cheers,
Scott.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Hercule is just interested in sermonizing. Probably one of those Traditionalist Worker’s Party assholes from out in California.
OT: I tried researching this and haven’t had any luck. Does the X-Men take place in the main Marvel (comics) universe? If so, why are people so against “mutants” but apparently don’t have a problem with the Avengers, Spider-Man, or the Fantastic Four?
Millard Filmore
@Hercule Triathlon: The Republicans will turn us into a third world country long before we have to worry about Mexicans. First world countries are not sustainable when you can drown the government in a bathtub.
Omnes Omnibus
@dmsilev: That one of the tells for me as well.
dmsilev
@debbie: In theory yes, but in practice if Trump likes Miller enough Miller stays.
O. Felix Culpa
@Kay:
From your keyboard to the FSM’s ears.
ETA: Tracking with Mnem in #99.
schrodingers_cat
@debbie: Apparently not. Miller is the de facto President, since he is setting the policy.
RandoMonster
Circling their shithole-in-chief like turds going down the drain.
schrodingers_cat
@p.a.: And encase it in a jello “salad”
mike in dc
English fluency/literacy and knowledge of US History and the constitutional system of government are all requirements for citizenship. Assimilation rates across different immigrant cultures, taken multigenerationally, are broadly similar.
Yutsano
@p.a.: *dumps gochujang on everything*
Adam L Silverman
@Hercule Triathlon: It isn’t that Jeane Kirkpatrick’s gate test is wrong. Rather her taste just doesn’t matter. The people who are willing to risk everything to get here from the places you’d put the gates around are exactly the people we want. Risk takers. Unafraid to leave everything behind to try for something better. Very few of any American’s ancestors came to the US from places that wouldn’t have been described as shitholes when they came here. And very few of any American’s ancestors were wealthy or well off when they got here. The vast majority have risked big and the reward was becoming an American.
I’ve served with some of these folks, as have a couple of dozen other people who regularly comment here. I’ve seen the risks they’re willing to take back in their homelands of Iraq and Afghanistan where they have to operate outside the wire not just in ACUs and kevlar and IBAs/IBVs and 80 to 125 lbs of extra crap strapped to them, but also wearing full face balaclavas just in case someone they know might see their faces, which would place the family they left behind at risk.
These are men and women like PVT Emmanuel Mensah who died rescuing people from a fire in their building in NY City:
He’s Ghanan. One of the best chaplains I’ve ever had the pleasure of serving with is also originally from Ghana. In fact he’s a tribal king back home and kin to the overall king of Ghana. Smart, compassionate, empathetic – and willing to place his life on the line to minister to US military and civilian personnel in dangerous places.
Or 2LT Idreche:
BTW: he won West Point’s physics award in his graduating class. Here’s what my the Division Commender when I was the Cultural Advisor to 2BCT/1AD had to say about him:
Finally, as the US Army’s former most senior civilian cultural subject matter expert, what you know about culture wouldn’t fill a thimble.
mad citizen
OT: In VP news, 40 photos of the house, including 5 cat pics: How Karen and Mike Pence — and their pets — have put their personal stamp on the vice presidential residence
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/14/how-karen-and-mike-pence-and-their-pets-have-put-their-personal-stamp-vice-presidential-residence/1026340001/
Kay
Is it possible to be “fighting off the flu” or to get a less virulent flu and still be somewhat okay? I can’t decide if I’m imagining this because I’m suggestible and half the town is sick. Maybe I just have a cold. As Hillary Clinton might say “what difference does it make?” :)
O. Felix Culpa
@Gin & Tonic: Delighted to hear your wife’s home and on the mend. Warm thoughts sent your way.
p.a.
@Yutsano: spilled some kimchi on a decent shirt today. surprised/happy the red cleaned up easily.
Ruckus
@Chyron HR:
The very ones. Every one a fucking asshole.
Baud
@Kay: Stay home. Be safe.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Aren’t you the Nazi whisperer?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Hercules Decathlon: “Argle bargle culture, blah blah borders, blah blah they were credits to their race.”
Ruckus
@Gin & Tonic:
You’re a hundred? Damn that’s good. Oh wait……
Adam L Silverman
@Hercule Triathlon: Actually they were doing it, to paraphrase both Disraeli (remarks made on the floor of the House of Commons) and Judah P. Benjamin (remarks made on the floor of the US Senate) when your ancestors were buggering sheep in some dark forest in the middle of Europe.
Here’s an example from China:
And one from Africa:
Mike in NC
Great. Without a job or sugar daddy, Steve Bannon is now posting here.
Viva BrisVegas
@Adam L Silverman: Explaining decency to these people is like describing colour to a blind man.
Citizen Alan
@Hercule Triathlon:
I would rather live in a favela then next to repulsive vomit people like you. Pied.
Another Scott
@RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp): Have you looked at LibreOffice? It’s free and has Impress (a PPT clone (but much better in many respects)) and Draw (a 2D drawing package) as well as the usual Office-like stuff.
Cheers,
Scott.
DissidentFish
@Mnemosyne: This is exactly what I was saying the morning. Those who defend or excuse Trump … how do we build a future with them as “leaders” in this country? How?
@Jeffro:
He couldn’t tell you the name of one single judge if they were in the room with him.
Ruckus
@Yarrow:
Are you saying that the vast majority of the media has zero, zip, no idea of actual reasonable policy?
Because if you aren’t, I am.
p.a.
@Mike in NC: Well, he’ll do less damage to the republic coming here than in any previous venue.
Steeplejack
@Shana:
The last character of your link was a lowercase a instead of a capital A, which is what the correct YouTube link contains. Dunno how that got in there. Did you type it manually?
Yutsano
@p.a.: Kimchi has no oil in it. The red pepper flakes used in traditional recipes are water soluble. It’s neat stuff.
Yarrow
@Ruckus: I wasn’t saying it specifically, but now that you mention it, I certainly agree with that statement.
Timurid
@Hercule Triathlon:
Oh, geez, look at the time.
Ruckus
@Hercule Triathlon:
Fuck you, you fucking moron asshole.
CA is far better off with those people than people like you.
danielx
@Hercule Triathlon:
Well, we could start with how if California was a sovereign nation it would have the world’s sixth largest economy, and then…
Oh, never mind. Go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut. Do it today!
Millard Filmore
@Hercule Triathlon:
Have you read this very exciting book on the brilliance of the Occident?
https://books.google.com/books/about/Bloodlands.html?id=maEfAQAAQBAJ
Of course the events in Rwanda a few years ago really gave us a run for our money. But still, they came up short.
Steeplejack
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Don’t feed the goddamn troll!
Citizen Alan
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
It has been a point of contention for nearly 50 years or so that mutants are inexplicably hated and feared by everyone regardless of what powers they have, while non mutants who get super powers from falling into a vat of radioactive waste or something are admired instead, at least so long as they’re still good looking.
Kay
@DissidentFish:
I don’t think anyone can deny that the standards are much lower for the next President. The lying is a real problem. The President can now lie blatantly and daily. Think how much of Presidential analysis is parsing their words. That doesn’t mean anything now. It’ll be a big lift to get it back up there. I’m not sure it will happen because the next President will have to do it and obviously the ability to lie constantly without repercussions is politically useful. New tool in the ‘ol toolbox. Will they willingly give it back? I don’t know. It probably has to be TAKEN back and I don’t know how to do that.
El Caganer
@Millard Filmore: The brilliance of the Occident? I thought it was the majesty of Rock, the mystery of Roll.
danielx
@Steeplejack:
You’re right. I forgot the rule.
Especially when the troll sounds like a pompous, pretentious ass.
p.a.
@Ruckus: @Yarrow: What skills do those at the ‘top’ of the profession possess? What earned them their promotions? Not snarking, either. Pretty obvious what it takes to get to the top at FuxNews, but the rest? Careerism?
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
I doubt it. I was born and live in socal, I’ve heard these assholes all my life. Racism is a universal human condition. Those who have overcome it’s call have done so because they weren’t taught it at home or hung out with other racist assholes. They will call it culture or whatever they want but as we’ve all noticed, it’s fucking racism. They think they are better than everyone else, but they prove day in and day out to be far worse.
Achrachno
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Quite right! Language is not very preservable anyway — languages change continuously. Is Beowulf really written in English? If so, the language has changed quite a bit. Dutch is as easy to follow for a modern English speaker.
Steeplejack
@debbie:
I don’t know. But I doubt it.
danielx
@Kay:
Repeat after me: It’s Okay If You Are A Republican.
Millard Filmore
@Adam L Silverman:
Some decades ago I read a book that claimed the best people go first and farthest.
Yarrow
Baud
@Ruckus:
Trump in a nutshell.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Citizen Alan:
Yeah, that sounds a little silly. They should be equally distrusted or not at all.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Unfortunately no. Miller is tight with the President – he was quickly given to the campaign by then Senator Sessions and they bonded on the campaign trail. Miller was often the red meat warm up act when the President was running late at his campaign stops. And Miller has ingratiated himself with Jared and Ivanka from all reports. So trying to get rid of him is probably something that isn’t happening without some sort of scandal.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: The over the top foppishness is what screams parody troll to me. Not the racism.
Another Scott
@Ohio Mom: J’s father Joe says, “Hold my beer!” ;-)
She set him up with a Mac. It didn’t go especially well initially (e.g. he didn’t know that you had to click “OK” on alert dialog boxes – stuff like that)…
Computers aren’t “intuitive” – it takes a while to learn how to run them.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
they also advocated for Flynn, and IIRC, Manafort.
Curious, that.
ETA: Didn’t Miller come from Sessions’ office?
p.a.
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well a mention of VD Hanson pretty much = foppishness.
danielx
@Kay:
Seriously. Next time there’s a Dem president (in 2020 please FSM), watch the pearl clutching the first time he or her makes a grammatical error or wears a golf shirt, let along gets caught lying about something.
It never fails.
PIGL
@Hercule Triathlon: you are a fucking Nazi like Spencer, just a pseudo-intellectual one with a pretence of civility.
Go die over a slow fire.
Millard Filmore
@El Caganer:
Yeah, we had the best music in the world for a while. Then progressive rock faded away.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: To answer your substantive question: yes it does. Apparently the issue is that mutants basically weird everyone out as they’re a different type of human as a result of evolution (homo superior) while mutates like Spider-man or demigods like Thor or other humans enhanced through scientific research and/or accidents (Captain America, Black Widow, the Hulk, She-Hulk, etc) are just every day humans who have been enhanced. So no threat to homo sapiens. For practical purposes in the actual comics, the various X-Men didn’t actually interact a lot with non-mutant heroes. Sure, the Beast did join the Avengers for a while. And there’s a WW II backstory where Logan/Wolverine fighting for the Canadian Army and Captain America had some interactions. But by and large even though they were in the same continuity and the same world, so to speak, they didn’t really interact a lot. As big crossovers became a thing, the interactions became more and more frequent.
danielx
@Millard Filmore:
But they weren’t true conservatives! And Slavs aren’t really white people!
Amaranthine RBG
@Hercule Triathlon:
I find you so arousing right now. Hold your moob against me!
Omnes Omnibus
@danielx: He or she. You did it on purpose, didn’t you?
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: I’m not quite sure what that means.
danielx
@Omnes Omnibus:
I did. I am SO ashamed.
Omnes Omnibus
@Millard Filmore:
Seek professional help.
@Amaranthine RBG: Okay, that was good. Credit where due.
schrodingers_cat
DougJ must be really bored.
Adam L Silverman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yep. Sessions gave him to the campaign as speechwriter and policy specialist very early on.
Ruckus
@p.a.:
I’d have to say that they probably possess the ability to type, probably spell OK, have an understanding of English grammar and considering many/most at the top of their profession, little else. I worked for a decade in a company that produced an 80 page membership magazine monthly and the people there all had journalist degrees. It still required a managing editor to make the 5 writers output into a common direction magazine. None of them were dumb, stupid or uneducated but there still needed to be a controlling hand at the helm. I don’t see that hand at newspapers. I believe they are seen as unnecessary and too costly.
Adam L Silverman
@p.a.: Occident is the giveaway that he or she, most likely a he, is a white supremacist. The faux scholarly journals that the genteel and educated white supremacists, or as they like to call themselves race realists, are all about occidentalism. For instance, one of the oldest of them is Occidental Quarterly. They all tend to be connected to VDare or The Charles Martel Society. Groups like that.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s begging to be read in Seb Gorka’s voice.
Ohio Mom
@Another Scott: My MIL was actually something of an early adaptor. She was an English professor and used one of the first word processing programs to write a textbook.
Even so, she never caught on, never developed any mastery. She has always been at sea technically, has always depended on Ohio Dad. It is something of a long-running joke around here.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: Ha!
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
Quite possibly you are correct. It’s just that I’ve seen too much of this kind of shit in real life. CA may be a blue state but there are pockets of scarlet where racism is the religion of choice and too many have read the literature. There was a discussion of L Ron’s cult here the other day and I’ve thought about it some more and in my 50 yrs of exposure to the cult I can not remember seeing one person that wouldn’t be described as white. And during that time I’ve been in the mother ship so to speak, have walked by and looked into his office. It’s the whitest collection of humans I think I’ve ever seen.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: Well played!
Yarrow
@schrodingers_cat: That’s hard to imagine, what with the new baby and all.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack: @Omnes Omnibus: Also, this isn’t Gorka. I’ve got Gorka’s email address (don’t ask). Unless Sebbie has created a sock puppet account. But I doubt that. His last encounter with me didn’t end pleasantly for him.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks. Still, superpowers are superpowers. They can be abused whether they were received by birth or accident. You would think the human denizens of Earth-616 would be just as distrustful of non-mutants like the Hulk or Thor.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman:
Some day, one would like to know that story. Still, imagine Mr. Tripod read in that voice.
schrodingers_cat
@Yarrow: I think you are right, racist parody troll is not his schtick.
Ruckus
@Adam L Silverman:
Does any of his encounters with real humans go well?
Achrachno
@Ruckus: “I was born and live in socal, I’ve heard these assholes all my life.”
Me too, both, but things are a lot better than I remember back in the olden days. Or, maybe I’m just hanging out with a better bunch of people. There are a lot of people of Mexican ancestry around, as always — but that does not seem to be a problem. Better than the RWNJs that used to be so common back in the Reagan-Deukmejian-Wilson era.
Another Scott
@Ohio Mom: Joe did lots of stuff with FORTRAN on time-shared systems before he retired. But he envisioned talking to the computer (thinking the mouse was a microphone), etc., etc., when we first set up the Mac for him.
Different skill-sets in different times. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
(“What’s a ‘punch card'”?)
Ruckus
@Achrachno:
Oh I agree, it is better. But there are still lots of them around. Out of what 42 million people in the state, if 27% of them are RWNJs then that’s over 11 million people. Even half of that would be noticeable. Even if scattered around, like dog turds at a dog park.
danielx
@Another Scott:
Am invention of the devil.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I thought I sent you the emails. Basically he cold emailed me trying to sell me his course on how to do counterinsurgency and counterterrorism. I knew how he got my email address even though I didn’t give it to him. I called him on it and he threw his wife and his intern under the bus. Then he got whiny and pulled: “well if you don’t want or need to know how to do irregular warfare the right way, then…”. At that point I decided to formally introduce myself. He had had no idea who I actually was. Then he went from whiny to suck up. Then I sent him my full CV and never heard from him again. He started with belligerent and within three emails had passed through it’s someone else’s fault to whiny and then went straight to suck up. Then he just shut up and went away when I sent him my actual credentials as the receipts. He wouldn’t know an alpha male from alphabits.
Adam L Silverman
@Ruckus: I can’t imagine.
danielx
This image may go viral, and should – I think. View it if you dare.
Another Scott
@danielx: Naah. It was something that made one appreciate being efficient in coding. If one has to spend hours at a keypunch making the cards, cards that could be dropped and mis-ordered and lost at any moment, then carry around 15 pounds or more of them for one’s program, one learns to appreciate minimizing the amount of waste.
Of course, that kind of thinking isn’t too common these days – “RAM and disk space are cheap, minimize your time needed to solve the problem!”…
Cheers,
Scott.
(“Now paper tape, that was an invention of the devil!” ;-)
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: He was, what, a Lance Corporal in a TA intel unit?
Gravenstone
@danielx: Why for you do this evil thing?
danielx
@Gravenstone:
Evil should be exposed to, uh, light.
From a tweet by Dave Winer.
J R in WV
@Ryan:
Chuck AND Chris Matthews. Reading about Matthews lately, his treatment of women, repulsive and despicable. MSNBC should fire him for cause, should have long ago. He’s a monster.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: At most. And he’s changed the story of his service so many times that the actual British Army intel folks have pretty much debunked all of his claims. They actually treat him/regard him as a stolen valor case. They’ve debunked his claims to have been involved in countering terrorism in Northern Ireland to doing translation work for ops in the Balkans to claims he trained SAS teams. Basically he’s a serially fabulist, embellisher, and fraud.
J R in WV
@Yarrow:
Speaking of shitbirds.
Convicted voter fraud felon and all around world contender for most stupid person, as shown by his ability to dream that Bristol Palin is smarter than Chelsea Clinton. Or better looking – that meth works on your looks!!
ETA OP quoted
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Not that there is anything wrong with being a Lance Corporal in a TA intel unit.
Villago Delenda Est
@Hercule Triathlon: Fuck you, racist shithole.
J R in WV
@Suzanne:
Come on, Suzanne, you’re a professional designer, not doing political buttons, and not a snob. You need what you need. Silly.
ETA: Does windoze still come with Paint? what about Paintbox Pro? I haven’t started up a windows box in 10 years now!
RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp)
@debbie: Cool! Thanks!
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Nope. Every place he’s worked with the US military has basically distanced themselves too. The Marshall Center stated unequivocally he wasn’t an actual faculty member and didn’t really teach there. Marine Corps University made it clear they had no idea the person who funded the endowed chair he had was his wife’s cousin. That the relationship wasn’t disclosed by him when he applied for the position or by his cousin by marriage who funded the endowment. And NDU CISA allowed two former colleagues who are still there to basically trash him to the press. The only place that I’ve not seen say anything is JSOU, which doesn’t surprise me at all.
Full disclosure: I was a Senior Fellow at JSOU for 2 months. I resigned for professional reasons.
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman:
So, just like his boss. I think coward should be in there as well.
Omnes Omnibus
@J R in WV: Oh, she is a snob alright.
RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp)
@Another Scott: Cheers, backatcha!
J R in WV
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
There was literally 0:00 on the clock when that guy hit the goal line! I could NOT believe my eyes… the luck of those guys! Finally…
RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp)
@J R in WV: I’m working on a Mac. I want to be able to be able to create a 2.25″ button template, and then play around with text, color, background. Nothing fancy.
Adam L Silverman
@Lizzy L: Most likely.
SgrAstar
@Hercule Triathlon: Clean up team to aisle one, STAT!
Sherparick
@dmsilev: They want their votes to gut Social Security & Medicare. The racism is the what the 1% gives to their White base in exchange for their votes & it is a belief they share.
Brachiator
@J R in WV:
These people are so tiresome. Why do they even bother?
I had entirely forgot about Bristol Palin. She is a high school graduate. I give her props for that. But Chelsea Clinton went a little further. There is not even an alternate universe in which Palin is smarter.
Ruckus
@RedDirtGirl (AKA IvankaThrowUp):
Try Open Office, it has a draw program and looks easy to use. And it’s free.
J R in WV
@Hercule Triathlon:
This guy is stark raving. But not a farce, I think he believes it. How he got here, who knows.
Personally, last spring friends asked us to join them on a trip to Tuscany. We flew Air France via Paris to Florence, aka in Italy Firenze. Getting off the Air France flight in the quite small airport in this center of civilization, the first thing I noticed was the strong smell of sewage – probably a nearby treatment plant.
Obviously in a poor country you are going to smell things. Here in America you smell things where there are things to smell.
Darkrose
@Kay: I’m not sure, but I’ve been wondering that myself. I don’t feel awful, just kind of tired and achy and run down. And mopier than usual, but that’s been the case since November 9 of 2016.
Alain the site fixer
@Omnes Omnibus: And I so love the Specials and so much of the groovy Two Tone scene/bands/artists. Thanks!
Omnes Omnibus
@Alain the site fixer: I am glad that someone noted the better song.
J R in WV
@JGabriel:
Senator Cotton is an experienced liar, and carefully chose his words to allow him to give the impression that he did not hear what he heard. when a more careful reading of what he said reveals that he didn’t say that at all. He talked around what was said without saying what was said, or not.
J R in WV
@Hercule Triathlon:
I think what this guy is calling a Brazilian slum in San Diego is the homeless mental patients Ronald Reagan put on the street. They aren’t Mexican or Latino at all, they’re ordinary Americans who are ill in a country unwilling to care for their ill citizens.
Hoping “Hercule” never needs mental treatment and care, he will be shit out of luck and on the street in no time!
CarolDuhart2
@Hercule Triathlon:Marco Polo and the traders of Persia beg to differ. China had cities while Northern Europe had huts. And don’t forget how much Europe borrowed/bought/stole from the Middle East. And there wouldn’t even be a United States without Haitians/kidnapped Africans who did the menial work clearing forests and whatnot.
Omnes Omnibus
@J R in WV: @CarolDuhart2: He is a troll of some kind. Please bear that in mind when/if you respond.
Suzanne
@Adria McDowell: Bristol is the Platonic ideal of “basic”. All of the Palins are Exhibit One of what happens to white trash when they have money.
Gretchen
@Kay: Did you get a flu shot? My daughter and I both did, and we got a sore throat/cough illness a week ago, and are still coughing. But we didn’t get all that sick. I think that tracks with the flu shot being less effective this year – it made it less bad but didn’t protect entirely.
J R in WV
@Another Scott:
I’ve punched cards, with PL/1 programs on them. Little ones like Print “Hello World”;
My first semester in Computer Science 100 there were something like 200 students, and 4 on-line terminals, so long lines waiting. Around the rest of the room were punch-card machines, and a fellow I became good friends with was a former IBM field tech who repaired them. He showed me a little bit, and we were in business, no waiting.
I was astounded that no one else joined us. At least we were sitting there doing programming assignments, while they were chatting and waiting.
Another good friend worked summers at a big computer shop, helping operators run jobs, putting paper in printers, etc. One programmer brought a bigger and bigger card deck every few days. (The cards were not numbered or marked on their sides.) One day he dropped his program card deck on the floor, and never came back.
Citizen Alan
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
To be fair, historically, everyone in the MU was pretty scared of the Hulk, because he was impossibly strong, indestructible, and had the mind of a toddler perpetually in mid-tantrum. You never knew when, one day, Bruce Banner would come to town, stub his toe, and destroy everything within a fifty-mile radius.
It was the Fantastic Four and the Avengers that everyone irrationally liked, mainly because they were all rich and mostly white (and even the Black Panther was a highly educated billionaire). It always amused me that the X-Men had work so hard to hide themselves while the Avengers and the FF had government permission to fly jets and rockets out of the middle of downtown Manhattan. I think it helped the Avengers that they quickly ditched the Hulk and picked up Captain America who (within the setting) was literally a universally admired living legend. Even then, it was a major storyline when most of the original Avengers left and were replaced with a lineup of Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, and Hawkeye (the last three of whom had criminal records). The in-universe media called them “Cap’s Kooky Quartet,” which for a time flirted with the whole “unpopular superheroes” concept.
Tehanu
@Hercule Triathlon:
Nobody’s censored you, your spew is still here for everyone to read. Now fuck off.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@J R in WV: Want to see a CS major cry, watch them drop a card deck during a Santa Ana.
SFAW
@Jeffro:
No shit. Convicted Felon Didouche D’Douchea makes John “Prolapsed Pig Rectum” Sununununununununununuuuuuu look like a 10.
SFAW
@Hercule Triathlon:
Better run to Russia before those horrible darkies get here, motherfucker. Do it NOW! NOW!!! You racist motherfucker.
SFAW
@Hercule Triathlon:
Quit whining, snowflake. You and your idol, Lying Littledick, are among the whiniest pu$$ies I’ve ever seen on the Intertubez or the world in general. FOAD, you racist motherfucker
SFAW
@J R in WV:
Punch-card decks. Christ, you’re old.
I did my thesis program in Fortran, using a punch-card deck. Which was not the best choice I could have made, especially since my advisor suggested I use the DEC terminal — don’t recall what it was connected to, it was before VAX — and I decided against it. Not the worst mistake I ever made, but …
Christ, I’m old.
ETA: And, by the way, this should put to rest your mistaken belief that YOU are the one who comes to threads after they’re dead.
EthylEster
In the Bob Dole version of this joke (directed at Nixon IIRC) the punch line was
Richard Nixon: Evil.
I think that works better than “See, no evil”. But YMMV.
JAFD
I’ve found the Paint.net graphics program – http://www.getpaint.net for free download – was definitely worth the money ;-) and would suggest Ms. RedDirtGirl take a look at it.
My high school history teacher told us, waybackwhen, that “The Anglo-Saxons are a great people, and have given much to the world. But they don’t know beans about cooking. Fortunately, the USA has had immigrants from all over, from the Germans who brought the ground meat concoctions of Hamburg and Frankfurt, to…”
I’ve lived in the Ironbound section of Newark, probably the largest neighborhood of Brazilian and Portuguese immigrants in the US. It’s clean, safe, lots of good food stores and restaurants, and if you walk down Ferry Avenue – the main street of Lusophone North America – there is an establishment every block saying ‘Aprenda Inglese’. If that’s Brazilian culture, bring it on.
When I’m working at the polls, later this year, I shall go to the Brazilian barbecue place at the corner, and say, licking my lips, “Hercule, you know not what you’re missing, speak of what you know nought of, and sound like a fool.”