Who’s Hungry? A Hearty New Year’s Day Meal

I was inspired by all the discussion in the pressure cooker thread and made beef stew for dinner. I don’t have a pressure cooker, so I did this in my stockpot on the stove top.

Ingredients

3 lbs of stew meat cut into 1/2 inch chunks

2 sweet onions cut in half and sliced thin

1 whole head of garlic cloves, peeled

5 turnips (I used these instead of potatoes, if you’re a potato person, use potatoes) chopped into cubes

1 bag of carrots chopped

2 bay leaves

Kosher salt and freshly cracked black pepper to taste

Concentrated beef jus to taste

Worcestershire Sauce or A1 to taste

1/2 a bottle of your favorite dark beer (or if you prefer red wine)

12 cups of water

Roux (melted butter and flour) or cornstarch as a thickening agent – cook’s preference

(stew meat and veggies cooking down)

Directions

Take a large stockpot, place over medium high heat, and once hot coat the bottom with extra virgin olive oil and 1/3 of a stick of unsalted butter. Once they are hot add the meat with salt and pepper, mix, and sauté until the meat is browned. While the meat is browning, chop, slice, and peel your vegetables. Add the sliced onions and the hole cloves of garlic to the meat, stir, and sweat off the onions and garlic. Add the concentrated beef jus (I used the better than bullion brand) and the Worcestershire or A1 and combine. Deglaze the beef, onions, and garlic with 6 to 8 ounces of the dark beer (I used Guinness stout today because they were out of Chimay Blue at the store) Add the chopped root vegetables, combine, and cook down. Add more salt and pepper to taste. Once the veggies have begun to soften add 12 cups of water, bring to a boil, and then cook until the meat and the root veggies are fork tender. Check to see if you need to adjust seasoning and do so if necessary. Then add your thickening agent of choice to bring the stew broth to your desired thickness. Serve and enjoy.

Open thread!






187 replies
  1. 1
    Walker says:

    While this looks good, Hoppin’ John is the only appropriate New Year’s Day meal.

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    I made stew this week too. It’s good winter food.

  3. 3
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Wine rather than beer for me. Potatoes and halve the number of carrots.

  4. 4
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Nothing wrong with using wine.

  5. 5
    Mary G says:

    Wha happened to AL’s open thread on the NYT? I’d think I was going crazy but it is still open in another tab.

  6. 6
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman: As you mentioned in the OP. For me though, if you add those mods, it is basically the do it of the fly stew that I make.

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    I attempted to make barbacoa beef in the slow cooker inspired by Chipotle’s barbacoa, it was a resounding success. My guests loved it.

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    debbie says:

    Sherry also works well.

  9. 9
    Amir Khalid says:

    What do you use instead of beer, if consuming alcohol gets you struck by lightning?

  10. 10
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Amir Khalid: The alcohol cooks off. Wine or beer.

    ETA: You could also use non-alcoholic beer.

  11. 11
    Anne Laurie says:

    @Mary G: Didn’t want to bigfoot AdamS, so my post will magically re-appear in a couple of hours.

  12. 12
    Mary G says:

    @Anne Laurie: Good, I pecked out a comment I can put up then.

    Adam:

    Currently monitoring reports from multiple sources in South Korea regarding the buildup of Chinese troops & military hardware along the DPRK border. Supposedly, Chinese citizens told that "Trump to hit North Korea in the New Year, we are preparing for war on the peninsula." 1/2— DEFCONWarningSystem (@DEFCONWSALERTS) January 2, 2018

    Should we be worried about this?

  13. 13
    Magda in Black says:

    @Amir Khalid: would “the alcohol all cooks out” get you a pass.? I was raised catholic, we learned “work-arounds”

  14. 14
    No One You Know says:

    Broke with tradition and made sandwiches: 1″ thick, with smoked cheese, turkey, ham, and a horseradish-maple-bourbon syrup. Soaked the bread in eggs and fried it first, then built the layers and baked for five minutes at 450°F.

    Washed it all down with beer. Dessert was pineapple chunks with ground cloves.

    Improved my outlook wonderfully. (I’m following y’all on the cooker thing. I’m stuck in the dark ages with a plain 6-qt pot for my soups.)

  15. 15
    Gin & Tonic says:

    I’d honestly like to see you peel and cube 5 turnips and a bag of carrots, slice two onions and peel and chop a head of garlic in the time it takes to brown the meat.

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    Anne Laurie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    What do you use instead of beer, if consuming alcohol gets you struck by lightning?

    I am not a cook, but I’ve known cooks who couldn’t consume alcohol who just used more Worcester sauce.

    And one who swore by red wine vinegar instead, if such would be acceptable under your religious rules (she was a teetotaler but not Muslim).

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    I don’t know of anything that releases the flavors that alcohol does, sorry. Water dissolves many flavors but only alcohol gets the rest. The best I can suggest is vinegar, it puts some of acid in like wine does. Use it to deglaze the pan after browning the parts.

  18. 18
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Magda in Black:
    I live in a country where trying to buy beer at the supermarket while Muslim means a criminal charge. Plus, I hear that alcohol doesn’t cook out as quickly as all the fancy chefs assert.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    For my fellow FODMAPpers (I think there are two or three of us), I made this beef bourguignon recipe yesterday and it was pretty darn good. I failed to put in enough salt, though, which was my bad.

  20. 20
    debbie says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    It only takes a couple minutes to cook out the alcohol.

  21. 21
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: I think she pulled it and rescheduled it for later when she realized she’d just posted on top of my post.

  22. 22
    Magda in Black says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    Had I been paying attention I would have remembered that. Scratch my suggestion please !

  23. 23
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Anne Laurie:
    My mother had me buy apple cider vinegar for kitchen use, so I guess red wine vinegar would also be okay.

  24. 24
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Amir Khalid: You could use a dark, strong coffee. Or just leave it out completely.

  25. 25
    1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio) says:

    @Walker: Agreed. We had collards as well.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I came across this recipe a few years ago that was created by an observant Muslim chef. Basically, red grape juice and red vinegar in the right proportions made a tasty beef stew without wine.

  27. 27
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid: What’s the Malay term for shabbos goy?

  28. 28
    Barbara says:

    @Amir Khalid: Try using a combination of beef or chicken stock and a few tablespoons of really good balsamic vinegar.

  29. 29
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Coffee works really well in chili. Yum.

  30. 30
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Amir Khalid: Try some coffee.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mary G: Never heard of that source. I do know that the DPRK is interested in sending a delegation of athletes to the Winter Games and that the ROK has agreed to talks to see if it can be negotiated. I did read the article the other day at Axios that the President is really pushing to attack the DPRK, but that his senior advisors keeps steering him away from military options. At this point there’s no real way to know. I will say that based on what would be necessary from a US military point of view, none of the normal signs of troop movements, equipment movements, etc seem to be happening.

  32. 32
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @No One You Know:

    a plain 6-qt pot for my soups

    Nothing wrong with a traditional stock pot. That’s what I use.

  33. 33
    J R in WV says:

    @Anne Laurie:

    You guys don’t need to worry about “big-footing” one another. I usually have at least 2 or 3 threads open at any given time. There’s too much good commenting going on to only read one thread!

    I made Chicken and Dumplngs, much the same, but celery more than carrots, because I had a bunch of celery and a tiny bag of carrots. A few potatoes, one large chicken breast, diced; brown the onions, pour into a bowl, brown the chicken (with herbs pounded in the mortar on the raw chicken) add the celery, browned onions, carrots, potatoes, broth, white wine to scour the good crust off the bottom of the pot. There’s more than that, soy sauce, fish sauce, Worchester sauce, etc, bay leaves…

    Let all that simmer, make a batch of soft dough, put teaspoons into the barely simmering soup, let simmer 20 more minutes. Big round soft dumplings, which we put butter on, and slurp up with the soup. Ummm good hot stew on a winter night.

    Four degrees here tonight. Clear sky, big full moon, so cold. Glad the equipment is working. I would hate to have to start a fire. Starting a fire because you want one is all better different than HAVING to start one at 3 am.

    Year ago I had to start a fire and drag the generator into the house by the woodstove to thaw the engine oil enough to be able to start the gen set. I put kerosene lamps against the other side of the engine, sat down with my feet on the generator, read a book by lamplight at 2 or 3 am. Long time ago! Couldn’t turn the engine over the lube oil was so stiff…

    DEFCON bullshit..!!

  34. 34
    Jay S says:

    I am having a hard time imagining turnips in place of potatoes in stew. That strikes me as a substituting strident for bland flavors.@Amir Khalid: One online suggestions for dark beer include strong beef broth. The flavor profile wouldn’t be quite the same, but if you used some cubed bread as a thickener you might get closer.

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    chopper says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    it isn’t as fast as people say, but most of it cooks off quick enough.

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    Yutsano says:

    5 turnips (I used these instead of potatoes

    As always, ¿Porque no los dos?

    Also: if you don’t trust the heat control on your stove stop, a stew will cook nicely in a low 250°F/150°C oven for 2-3 hours. And if you don’t trust your oven…get a new range.

  37. 37
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    With a little more Googling around, it looks like if your local authorities are so strict that they won’t allow you to buy wine-based vinegars, you can use lemon juice or a similar acidic juice instead.

  38. 38
    chopper says:

    that meat don’t look browned, dogg. what kind of stew are you trying to push on us here?

  39. 39
    Schlemazel says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    Yeah, some alcohol hangs around longer than people assume. None of that matters when it is illegal and/or immoral. I grew up where hemp grew wild. The fire department burned the fields off every fall because hemp= marijuana despite it not being at all the same. They can beat their head against the wall all they want but it is still illegal where you live.

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    debbie says:

    @1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio):

    Collards with bacon and apple cider vinegar here.

  41. 41
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @J R in WV:

    You guys don’t need to worry about “big-footing” one another. I usually have at least 2 or 3 threads open at any given time. There’s too much good commenting going on to only read one thread!

    This is true. It actually gets kind of dull if there aren’t at least two active threads.

  42. 42
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I did read the article the other day at Axios that the President is really pushing to attack the DPRK, but that his senior advisors keeps steering him away from military options.

    I wonder if Lindsey Graham is phone buddies with trump now

  43. 43
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep. As much as I want the alcohol to deglaze, I’m using the flavors in the dark beer to add body. Coffee will do that.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    OK, I admit to being slow on the uptake. Are you suggesting that I could show up there & buy beer? Sales are legal but purchasing while Muslim is not? Is that right? Just curious, i I bought it & gave it to you would I be in trouble? You? Both?

  45. 45
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Yutsano: I like neither turnips nor rutabagas. Potatoes please.

  46. 46
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    I think this recipe with coffee and lemon juice would be a good substitute for a beer-based recipe. The lemon juice gives you a little of the sharpness you would get from alcohol.

  47. 47
    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Does anybody else find Graham’s 180-degree turn a bit … odd?

  48. 48
    Schlemazel says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    How about ‘traif’? Is there a word for that?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yutsano: I’m not eating refined carbs, including sugar, and potatoes these days. So I used the turnips instead. I do eat sweet potatoes and yams, but I didn’t think they’d taste good in the stew.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You can deglaze with beef broth in a pinch. I have a few recovering alcoholic friends, so I have some recipes stashed away that are suitable for them.

  51. 51
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Gin & Tonic: No. I find it predictable. Very much so.

  52. 52
    LAO says:

    I feel like balloon juice really gets me today, I made beef stew in my instant pot. I will now recede back into the shadows. (Creepy music).

  53. 53
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chopper: Excuse me?

  54. 54
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Beef stew, no, but pork or chicken stew with sweet potatoes is a Caribbean classic.

  55. 55
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Who knows.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Schlemazel: Did you know there’s a restaurant in Williamsburg(!), Brooklyn, named Traif?

  57. 57
    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @LAO: With wine or beer?

  58. 58
    Schlemazel says:

    @chopper:
    You guys saying this repeatedly does not make it OK. I feel like the first time I went to a Chinese restaurant with my Jewish friend and the waiter kept trying to push the pork fried rice because it didn’t have much pork in it.

  59. 59
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Kompromat.

    He admitted last year that he’d been hacked. It wasn’t clear if it was his email, his campaign servers, or both. The question is who is threatening him: the President, the Russians, or both? If the former, then this would corroborate what Steele reported that the Russians had an information exchange in place with the President for a number of years.

  60. 60
    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I find it equally likely he thinks trump will give him the war he wants so desperately (Iran? No Korea? Uruguay? Andorra? all good) and the Putin has the kompromat the internet has been speculating irresponsibly about for years.

  61. 61
    LAO says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: beer. Wine’s for fancy people. But I do agree with you about: potatoes and the ratio of potatoes to carrots.

  62. 62
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Schlemazel: Haram. Means forbidden in Arabic.

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    Jay S says:

    @Mnemosyne: Vinegar works to deglaze as well, Cider vinegar could work in this recipe as part of a wine substitute.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep, that works too.

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    Barbara says:

    @Amir Khalid: Another ingredient that can deepen flavor is tomato paste — not much, maybe three tablespoons, plus some vinegar, in lesser quantities if pungent. Tomatoes have a lot of acid.

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    oatler. says:

    Fletcher Pratt’s book “A Man And His Meals” posited that stews originated in Europe where there was a surplus of fuel and shortage of labor;hence stew ,whereas in Asia there was a surplus of labor and a shortage of fuel, hence stir-fry.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Schlemazel:
    You certainly could, as long as you didn’t show up at the alcoholic beverages section in a ZZ Top beard and thawb.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Srsly? HAHAHAHA. I used to love this one deli in St. Louis Park, MN (once the safe place for Jews in Minnesota) that served an omelette they named ‘Traif’ it had corned beef and sour cream. Not good for you but man was it tasty!

  69. 69
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: Updates LAO’s files: she may have realized that she is being surveilled, alert all field operatives to reinforce operational security…

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    chopper says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    shrug. looks like it was crowded in the pan if you ask me.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Yep. And those are tasty.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Schlemazel: All alcohol does cook out. Cooking a stew takes time; the booze will be clean by the time a stew is finished.

    Once we knew that buying booze at all was an issue, we switched paths. Your example is apples and oranges.

  73. 73
    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: That’s it. Alexa’s going out the window.

  74. 74
    Amir Khalid says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Is it by any chance owned by goyim?

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Adam L Silverman: \
    Oh, right. I didn’t know it that was the same as traif or contained a broader meaning. But then again my only knowledge of traif means not OK for kosher food, maybe it has a broader meaning I never picked up on

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    chopper says:

    @Schlemazel:

    enough burns off at first that there’s little left. it helps if you then add stock or some other liquid and keep cooking it down.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Amir Khalid: Since it seems to specialize in pork and shellfish, I suspect it is.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chopper: Nope, it was fine. You just can’t see the browning because of the lighting. The meat was melt in the mouth tender.

  79. 79
    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: Updates LAO’s files: she thinks it’s her Alexa, we’re fine…

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @LAO: Fancy people? French, Spanish, Italian, and Romanian peasants are fancy people?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Schlemazel: For Muslims, the Arabic term haram applies to anything forbidden. Pork, alcohol, gambling, etc.

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    Lapassionara says:

    @Gin & Tonic: Me.

  83. 83
    chopper says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    okay

    ETA: browning means nothing as to tenderness. you can make it a crudo and it will be tender.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Amir Khalid:
    Sorry for 20 question but I love how governments try to enforce morality. What percentage of the population is not Muslim(approx)? So selling is not against the law, if I were Muslim & ran a store could I sell it or is that out too? How about restaurants, same rules? What is the punishment for breaking this law, could I go to jail?
    Thanks.

  85. 85
    jeffreyw says:

    We’e had this for one year in a row, now.

  86. 86
    Mnemosyne says:

    @Schlemazel:

    “Well, the Spam, Eggs, Sausage, and Spam hasn’t got much Spam in it.”

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Maybe but I saw a lot of people suggesting it was somehow OK. Also, from what I have read alcohol evaporation is not as fast as suggested. But none of that matters as it is still not allowed, just like pork is not allowed. Not even a little, not even evaporated.

    EDIT: it is still going on @chopper:

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    Mike J says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Plus, I hear that alcohol doesn’t cook out as quickly as all the fancy chefs assert.

    Since we were talking instant pots today, it should be mentioned that it doesn’t cook out at all in a pressure cooker.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chopper: Please tell me more. I’ve absolutely no experience working in and/or running kitchens.

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    LAO says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: eh, I didn’t have any wine in the apartment so I used beer. I made it both ways and with no alcohol and frankly, I’m such a shitty cook, I can’t tell the difference.

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    oatler. says:

    @Schlemazel: It all comes down to sex. Sex, sex, sex…where were we?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Schlemazel:

    You know there are places right here in these United States where alcohol can’t be sold at all, right? Dry counties still exist in places you might not expect, like Oregon. And there are US states where only the state government is allowed to sell liquor, though I’ve never lived in such a bizarre place myself.

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    OldDave says:

    Just finished a bowl of black-eyed peas, so hopefully I’m good to go as far as 2018 is concerned.

    What I really wanted to mention was the recent Bloom County series – the “Christmas” series that starts with Steve Dallas being kid-napped and taken to the hospital. It’s a thing of beauty, especially today’s comic.

    If you clicked on the link I provided above, you then click on the ‘left arrow’ that appears near the left edge of the comic to see the next one in the series (six or seven total).

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Schlemazel: Pork does not evaporate. Alcohol does.

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    LAO says:

    @Amir Khalid: @Gin & Tonic: I can’t believe I went down this rabbit hole, but the chef/owner of Traif Jason Marcus is Jewish. http://www.restaurantgirl.com/.....arcus.html

    I must get a life.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @LAO: Well, that is a different thing entirely.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: This blog is very good on explaining why things work (or don’t) in the kitchen.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @oatler.:
    “Puritans were against bear baiting, not because it brought pain to the bear but because it brought pleasure to the viewers”
    Samuel Clemens.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ve been known to make both pork and alcohol disappear.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Amir Khalid: I would probably try balsamic vinegar and cider vinegar 0.75:1 to deglaze in order to approximately mimic what red wine flavor might do.

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    LAO says:

    @Adam L Silverman: damn it! I already “took care” of Alexa…

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @LAO: Indeed, you must.

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    A Ghost to Not says:

    @Walker:
    My Penn Dutchie wife insists on pork and sauerkraut on NYD. No complaints from me.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Gin & Tonic: You’ll upset Schlemazel.

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    chopper says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    personally I’d say brown it in more batches so it doesn’t come out so gray. if you throw 3 pounds of stew meat into a pot in one batch it’s not going to brown well, it’s going to steam and boil. throw it in in batches and it’ll brown instead of “gray” and honestly it won’t take any more time if you do it right.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    RIght but the local authorities are not arresting people for trying to buy booze. I had dinner in a dry county by Dallas. I could not buy a drink but I could bring my own & drink it there. I found that level of stupidity particularly hilarious.
    In that particular case the store where I could buy my wine was literally kitty-corner from the place that charged me $5 to open it and give me a glass to drink it from but could not sell it to me.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @LAO:

    I have a niece named Alexa. Stupid Amazon ruining it for our family. 😡

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    Magda in Black says:

    @OldDave:
    I’ve been following that series, and I agree, it is delightful ✨

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    If you made pork broth and then threw the meat away & made soup with the broth it would still be traif.

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    @LAO: I just ordered an InstaPot, I asked the kid* about it last night, she said get it.

    *She has one but hasn’t used it yet, her sister swears by her’s. She says it cooks rice in 5 minutes.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I was using sarcasm to respond to chopper. I started working in professional kitchens when I was sixteen. I’ve been a chef. I’ve been a bouncer. I’ve worked in taverns and pubs and bars and grills and upscale restaurants.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    No, not upset. But your constant suggesting that a Muslim should be OK with wine because eventually most of might evaporate would be upsetting to someone that lived under those rules.

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    oatler. says:

    @Schlemazel: OBEY THE SEX LAWS

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @Schlemazel: Thank you. The point is that it’s alcohol in the food. To the extent that I understand Muslim dietary law, I believe it’s much like that for keeping Kosher it doesn’t matter if there’s not much pork in the pork fried rice, or not much lard in the Oreos.

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    chopper says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    SE is pretty good.

    it’s like mushrooms. if you crowd the pan, it won’t brown well, it’ll steam and boil. don’t crowd the pan, do it in batches and you’ll be rewarded. also you’ll have a hell of a fond to scrape up.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Serious Eats is still a good read.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chopper: It didn’t come out gray at all. But you continue to knock yourself out about this champ.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Schlemazel:

    You might be surprised — when we got pulled over for speeding in a dry county in Oregon, they searched the car and indicated that we would have been fined, and possibly arrested, if we’d had alcohol in the car.

    (We didn’t get a ticket because my friend with a Michigan license was driving my car with Arizona plates with me in the passenger seat, so the cops decided it was too complicated to try and ticket us. Fortunately, they didn’t know she was using her younger sister’s license.)

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: It is. I do, on occasion, look something up there.

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    LAO says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: white rice.

    I can’t overstate how much I love my IP. As a self admitted terrible cook, if using a decent recipe, it’s virtually impossible to screw up.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    Sounds like SOuthern States cops and Yankee plates :)

    BTW, in the olden days airplanes had to stop selling booze when they flew over dry counties HAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Schlemazel: With the first, pork is the problem. With the second, I understand that the alcohol is the problem. If the alcohol is the problem, cooking it out should eliminate the problem. Grapes weren’t the issue. Alcohol was. I am neither Jewish not Muslim. I offered coffee as an option. I’ll retire from this field now.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Food photography is hard, your recipe looks pretty good.

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    gene108 says:

    @Schlemazel:

    just like pork is not allowed.

    There is no pork in it, it was just cooked in bacon fat…what’s the problem?

    The hardest thing to figure out is something like refined beans has pork fat in it, so you would have to be careful about eating out. And a lot of folks, who usually consume pork don’t make the connection that even cooking in pork fat is not allowed in the diet.

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    LAO says:

    @Mnemosyne: if my name were Alexa, I’d be bummed too.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Schlemazel:

    It was a classic speed trap on a holiday weekend. It was back in college (20+ years ago!), so we were lucky they decided it was too complicated to try and ticket us.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @LAO: But what about a microwave? Fortunately I have neither (an?) Alexa nor a microwave, but I have a fruity work phone now, so I worry.

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    magurakurin says:

    @Mnemosyne: what county is dry in Oregon? The answer is none.

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    @LAO: White rice is very important here since madame is Korean.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Amir Khalid: Marmite. A teeny bit. Plus more potatoes though you might need to add liquid.

    Also genius for non-alcohol substitutions: pomegranate juice for a red wine taste.

    I enjoyed serving as an unofficial culinary liaison to the Muslim Students’ Association!

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    chopper says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    hey, if “chuck three pounds of stew meat into a pot” is your recipe and it works for you than rock on. you’re clearly not interested in any improvements.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @magurakurin:

    We got pulled over in Monmouth pre-2002 when it was still dry.

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    @schrodingers_cat: Can’t be that hard, food doesn’t move too much. My camera actually has a “food” setting.

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    LAO says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Wait. You don’t have a microwave? I find that incomprehensible.

    PS how’s the pup.p? (As I was typing this comment, Maggie just peed on the floor. I’m seriously tired of this artic chill).

    ETA: just got the joke. I’m getting stupider in my old age.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Mnemosyne:
    Around these parts Wisconsin is famous for that. The old trick was they would hold you for the Justice of the Peace. He was usually some political connected . The most common fine was “How much cash do you have on you?” My dads cousin was county Sheriff in Waupaca County and he told me, “Never carry more than $20 on you. Hide the rest in the car because if you get stopped you will be fine the amount you have in cash.”

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    Schlemazel says:

    “Goodnight you Princes of Maine, you Kings of New England!”

    Happy New Year to you all

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    LAO says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: I prefer white rice myself, it comes out perfect in the IP!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Schlemazel: Depends on your plates…

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Amir Khalid: PS: I guess Omnes is tired of this topic, but here’s a link to the burnoff chart. It takes 2.5 hrs of simmering to get 95% of the alcohol to evaporate out.

    Do you ever eat kecap manis in your neck of the woods? That would cover for the A1 sauce nicely, and no need for fermented beverages to add complex flavors.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @LAO: I’ve never been a microwave fan, and when our last one expired, I didn’t replace it. Thanks for asking after Harry – he’s wearing a doggie Baker blanket that’s a touch too short, but it’s the biggest I’ve got. Mr. Q insisted he’d refuse to let it be put on and be embarrassed if I managed to do so, but Mr. Q was wrong. Harry stuck his head through the neck like a champ, and nosed where it was hanging the next time out. He has boots on order for walks down the block. Poor Maggie must hate this weather.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Fancy people? French, Spanish, Italian, and Romanian peasants are fancy people?

    I grew up (admittedly still working on that) in MN and WI, and the aforementioned group are super fancy. Exotic, even. Remember my Dad coming home from a business trip to NYC and introduced us to what we called “green spaghetti”, which we all recognize as pesto sauce now. He made it with dried parsley, basil and probably really bad olive oil – but we felt very sophisticated eating it. Our ethnic food was lefse and kipper snacks.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @seaboogie: Our ethnic food was lefse and kipper snacks.

    and hot pot? with tater tot

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Lyrebird: I have been apprised that use of booze at all can be a problem. At that point, I realized that I know fuck all about the religious stuff.

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    LAO says:

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Good luck with the boots. I use mushers secret, trying to wrangle 35 lbs of obstinate staffy/beagle mix into them is not fun. But Harry sounds much more obedient than Maggie.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Adam L Silverman: we still good with the psyops using her dog?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steve in the ATL: We were…

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    LAO says:

    @Steve in the ATL: @Adam L Silverman: Maggie would never…unless you had lamb lung, then she’d do whatever you asked.

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    seaboogie says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ahem – hotdish! (Hotpot being a sizzling specialty from some region of China – a more liquid version of fajitas). And yes, in MN tater tots are a staple*.

    *See also cream of mushroom soup – aka the Lutheran binder, and often the thing that holds a hotdish together.

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    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho says:

    @LAO: A pibble/beagle is likely to be opinionated indeed, but also adorable like Maggie. Harry’s not exactly obedient, but he does know that I expect him to cooperate, so he does (mostly). We’ll see about the boots. It will be interesting also to see if Harry lives down to Mr. Q’s expectations; I hope he doesn’t. Layla fussed when he put her blanket on, as he expected, but stuck her head in when I held it out.

    @Steve in the ATL: @Adam L Silverman: Y’all best not be trying that with me. His full name is Harry Potter Wales, and is sometimes referred to as the Captain. Shit. It’s the fruity phone, isn’t it?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @LAO: That’s what she (and we) want you to think…

    Update’s LAO’s file: she’s in denial, the puppy is safe, no need to extract at this time…

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    magurakurin says:

    @Mnemosyne: that’s not a county. It’s a small town in Polk County and it’s not dry now. It’s not a revelation that there are still places in the United States that don’t allow the sale of alcohol. Countless souls in the Philly suburbs all know the importance of a stop at Circle Liquor before beginning their summer week at the Shore in Ocean City, NJ.

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    OT: I’m quite happy that I got 3 good pics of the flyover this morning, I still had my camera set for auto-bracketing so it took the 3 pics and then the buffer was full and I had to wait to take more and the planes were somewhere over east Glendale by then. But all the pics in the bracket came out good, much better than last year.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I might start listing the folks in power who clearly know far less than you do, but that might be depressing, and maybe this is supposed to be a nice hearty non-politicial thread.

    Obviously I am fond of dispensing information if I think it will be of use!

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    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Never trust a phone with fruit on it, my Note 8 has Bixby, she seems nice.

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    oatler. says:

    Food is political! Ask a peasant.

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    chris says:

    Thanks for the link. Good to see all the replacements in one place.

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    Cckids says:

    @Mnemosyne:

    Coffee works really well in chili. Yum.

    A coffee/chocolate porter works amazingly well in chili.

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    Mike J says:

    @chris:

    Good to see all the replacements in one place.

    Yesterday was Paul’s birthday.

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    shoebedo says:

    I suddenly have a craving for stew.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @magurakurin:

    Wevs, dude. If it makes you angry that I didn’t realize that Monmouth voted to allow alcohol 10 years after I was pulled over and had my car searched for booze, then that’s my bad. Monmouth stopped being dry 10 years after I was pulled over. Happy now?

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    HRA says:

    I have to admit I am surprised by the use of garlic in beef stew. That does not mean there are no recipes for garlic in stew. I am only going by how my Dad (the chef) and my mother made their stews. Mr. A and my dietary needs do not allow stews now and I do not make them.
    Yes the European countries all have their peasant stews.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @HRA: I like garlic. Therefore it goes in stew when I make it. End of mystery.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Cckids:

    Well, sure, but we’re trying to find alcohol substitutes for Amir since he’s not allowed to purchase or drink alcohol where he lives.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @Jay S:

    I am having a hard time imagining turnips in place of potatoes in stew.

    Too bad you can’t swing by the OP’s place and try some! The first time I ever voluntarily ate turnips was in a good beef stew, and they were super yum. Have not found a veg equivalent dish.

    There is a fried turnip cake dish out of Hong Kong that’s tasty, too, but that is probably because it’s laced with little bits of pork product.

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    danielx says:

    Brrrrr….kind of alarming when the furnace is set at 70 and the temp is 66 inside the house. -9 outside and it isn’t even midnight yet.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @danielx: Think warm thoughts!

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    Mike J says:

    @danielx: Flannel sheets.

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    @Adam L Silverman: Easy for you to say from down in Floriduh.

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    chopper says:

    @Cckids:

    coffee stout is the secret ingredient in my daughter’s pot roast. works a treat.

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    joel hanes says:

    @J R in WV:

    Dumplings in beef stew are pretty awesome, too.

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    joel hanes says:

    @danielx:

    Close the curtains, if you haven’t

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    danielx says:

    Irish in hot chocolate helps too.

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    Mike J says:

    @chopper: Oh yeah? Well you’re just a piece of undigested beef! There’s more of gravy than the grave about you.

    (Last chance for holiday stuff, gotta get it all in now.)

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: We’re under a wind chill advisory tonight. People have actually been warned to dress appropriately or risk frostbite if going outside. On the other hand, my heater isn’t having to deal with negative temperatures, and as always, it’s a two dog night.

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    HRA says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I was not criticizing your use of it. There were at least 2 different stews made with beef, veal or lamb weekly as I was growing up with my Mom’s cooking and most of them did not have potatoes..

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @HRA: I didn’t think you were. I just figured I’d explain how it got in there.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @danielx:

    People on Amazon are weirdly enthusastic about this blanket. I’m not ready to marry it like some people are, but it really is very soft and warm without being heavy. WaterGirl’s niece bought one for her for her holiday stay in IL but I haven’t heard how it worked out.

    I would be under it right now except that the cat is napping on it and she bites.

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    Mayim says:

    @gene108:

    There’s a next step, if you are keeping strictly kosher: if you cook treif (non-kosher) food in a pan, the pan becomes treif and any further food cooked in it is treif, even if all the ingredients are kosher. The oven is also treifed and needs to be remastered ~ self-cleaning cycle or blowtorch will take care of that ;-)

    There are some exceptions ~ Sephardi (Mediterranean) Jews treat glass as non-porous and it can be used for milk after meat and vice versa if washed well and let sit for 24 hours. Also, dishes and pots that weren’t heated beyond a certain temperature may be ok after being washed thoroughly and sitting for a day.

    Yeah, it can be absurdly complicated…..

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mayim: In the first Gremlins movie, when the gremlin takes a bite of the apple and then throws the apple away he growls “traif” as he does so. Technically, the apple isn’t traif, but it is a neat Easter egg (Passover afikomen?).

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    Mayim says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Haven’t seen it but ;-)

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Schlemazel:
    No jail time, but you get one stroke of the lash. A retailer/restaurant/bar can be fined for selling or serving alcohol to a Muslim, but I don’t remember how much. When it comes to catching Muslims drinking in public, I suppose it comes down to whether they think you look Muslim.

    It’s weird when you think about it, because there is not a similar obsession with catching Muslims who buy/eat pork in public.

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    Jay S says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Your garlic comment sent me on a fruitless search for an old garlic soup recipe. From James Barbers Urban peasant series. Saute Garlic and onions in oil, add stock, season to taste simmer and add chopped up rustic bread to thicken. I haven’t seen as simple a version online.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Schlemazel:
    Missed this question at first, sorry: about 2 in every 5 Malaysians are non-Muslim.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Gin & Tonic: HA!!! You just made me lol at work. Shabbos goyim, man.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Amir Khalid: What about fresh (not fermented) apple cider? Is that available? I bet it would be a good option.

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