Saturday Evening Open Thread

Here’s a still from a video my daughter sent me from her road trip:

They’ve fetched the Wisconsinite roommate and are headed to DC. Why? I don’t know. Because they’re 19 and hopped up on Christmas money and freedom, I guess.

This photo is from West Virginia (I think). I was tempted to tell the kids I know a dude there with lovely dogs, a formidable feline, a few spare rooms and likely a well-stocked pantry! But I couldn’t do that to Cole.

Open thread!

117 replies
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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    Did she buy a Wisconsinite coat, gloves, etc? Or is she still toughing it out in hoodies?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: Ha! I had the same question

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    debbie says:

    Oh, you know you could have!

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    Adrift says:

    Oh you most certainly should have done that! Cole could use the human company.

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    Lapassionara says:

    I hope they don’t drive like I did at 19.

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    mattH says:

    @Adrift: And he likes to feed people.

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    Adrift says:

    And a repost from below, with Harriet and her two new hatchlings.


    I watch throughout the day in order to keep my somewhat slippery sanity intact.

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    Yarrow says:

    Open thread? Oh, good. I have a cat question. I’m taking care of my neighbor’s cats. She has three indoor cats. I do mornings and another person does evenings. We are both following the instructions as to food and water and we’ve both taken care of the cats before.

    Yesterday I emptied the litter boxes. Everything was fine and normal. This morning I arrive and a cat has pooped on the door mat near the litter box they seem to use the most and the box is crazy full. Text the other cat sitter, who tells me she emptied the litter box yesterday evening and it was full then.

    Any thoughts on why is the box so full? The cats are getting the same amount of food they get when the owner is at home. I hope one or more of them isn’t sick. They seem fine. Awake and alert, paying attention to me until they get their food then ignoring me, the usual.

    Is this anything to worry about? Anything we should let the owner know about?

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    Adrift says:

    @mattH: Kids always need feeding. Always. And with Cole at least it would be healthy.

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: Cats are averse to any change in their surroundings, including human companions. Just keep the box as clean as you can and all will be fine.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    Catherine Rampell‏Verified account crampell
    Trump got feds to build him helipad at Maralago, and town of Palm Beach to permit use of helicopter there on condition it’s used for official presidential business only.
    Been used twice, both times by private business helicopter with corporate Trump logo.

    Not clear from the story if, as Rampell seems to imply, the Feds paid for this, but trump is a cheap grifter so it would surprise me if he didn’t get somebody– Homeland Security? Interior?– to kick in.

    @ mattyglesias
    Every single Republican Party member of congress wakes up every single day and decides to abrogate constitutional responsibilities and abet Trump’s corruption.

    this is what drives me crazy, I know we’re drinking water from a firehose, but the passivity in the face of the relentless corruption and self-dealing drives me nuts

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: Also try to spend a little time with them, if they allow it.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: She toughed it out until she arrived in Wisconsin, then glommed onto the Wisconsinite’s winter wear.

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: Also, Yarrow, as a side note regarding cats and their environment, if you move a chair, a table or add a piece of furniture you are liable to get a deposit outside the usual areas. It’s a normal reaction to an unfamiliar situation.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adrift: Thanks. The owner travels off and on and I’ve taken care of the cats before, sometimes for weeks at a time. This is the first time I’ve seen this happen. Same with the other person on the evening shift. That’s why we’re both a little concerned. Mostly they kind of ignore me, but I do pet them if they hang around. I’ve tried playing with them with some cat toys but they either won’t do it or they get bored in about thirty seconds.

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    Sadly, middle daughter has announced that she’s going back to Illinois for Round 2 in the shitty punk houses of Carbondale. At least this time, she has a working vehicle to escape with, and she has eaten and bathed well since September.

    Countess is in tears, but when 20 somethings are determined to be stupid, there’s nothing stopping it. Bad part is it’s our anniversary, I’ve been sick as a dog for days, and her dad announced today that he’s selling his house and going to semi-assisted living with his invalid lady friend.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adrift: No furniture has been moved or added. And this was day five or six of the owner being gone, so they should be a little used to it. That’s why we were both kind of surprised. It’s not just the deposit outside the box, it’s the massive amount in the box. We aren’t quite sure what to make of that given that their intake is the same.

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: Has anything else changed in the house that you are aware of? If not, just keep a close eye. If someone is not well you should notice pretty quickly. Look around for other unusual deposits of any kind, i.e., vomiting or urine.

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    Sab says:

    Betty Cracker:Thank the FSM that young and idiotic as they seem to be they are still OK. Ain’t parenting wonderful?

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    John Revolta says:

    Why? I don’t know.

    Boys. Duh. Somebody knows somebody who knows some.

    No wait. They’re probably all stoked about Our Nation’s Heritage. Yeah, that’s probably it.

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: Its a shame you can’t isolate them to see what each is doing. If you have some time settle in for a short while and see who responds to you just being there, quietly. Sometimes its a nervousness at people in and out and their person not being around. You have done this for them before so you know when something is off. If it is the same tomorrow let their person know and see what direction you get.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adrift: No, nothing else. One of the cats knocked a pillow from the sofa onto the floor and I picked it up and put it back. That was the only change I’ve seen. I did look around to make sure nothing else looked amiss. If it is, it was fairly well hidden.

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    Sab says:

    Betty Cracker:Thank the FSM that young and idiotic as they seem to be they are still OK. Ain’t parenting wonderful?

    Now she has a winter coat that her daughter can ignore someday.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Ugh, sorry to hear she’s going back to that jackass. But like you said, kids — what are you gonna do? 🙄 As parents we can only watch them do stupid things and be there to pick up the pieces.

    I’ve also got the crud that’s sweeping the nation. I recommend frequent whiskey-honey-lemon toddies. It tames the cough somewhat or at least makes you not give a damn anymore.

    Oh, and happy anniversary!

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @John Revolta: Girls! But, yeah. Younglings.

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    Adrift says:

    @Yarrow: I have a 17 year old who knocked a glass off the coffee table (shattered on the floor) when she didn’t get her treats at her usual time. I worked a double shift and it up set her. She has also left the odd deposit here and there when I am gone unexpectedly on a 16 or 24 hour job. Cats are fickle. Hopefully its nothing but if it persists don’t hesitate to let their person know something is amiss.

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    NotMax says:

    Okay, a challenge of sorts for the perspicacious B-J crowd.

    Anyone can do a list of Christmas movies. But what about New Year’s movies you like?

    As the universe of possible entries is nowhere as large as for Xmas movies, the criteria for consideration are necessarily broader, including but not limited to:

    New Year in Gregorian calendar, Chinese calendar, Hebraic calendar, et cetera, all eligible
    Any scene, however brief or ancillary, involving or showing any New Year’s celebration
    Any mention of or reference to any New Year
    Any rendition of Auld Lang Syne.

    Have a few in mind but shall toss out only a single choice as a filmic apéritif.

    After the Thin Man

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    Adrift says:

    @Betty Cracker: I’ve been skipping the honey and lemon and using the straight whiskey. Grows hair on your chest, also, too.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    The classic: The Apartment

    The cult film: CQ

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    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes says:

    @Betty Cracker:

    Had to put stargazer lillies in a spot not so accessible to cats.

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    chris says:

    I have Blade Runner 2049 cued up. Damn it’s long! Wish me luck.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Well, Shirley Temple does the most moving Auld Lang Syne in Wee Willie Winkie. But it’s not connected to New Year’s.

    Not a movie, but Mrs. Hughes did a pretty good Auld Lang Syne on a Downton episode.

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    Sitting in Newark Airport waiting for my flight home to Atlanta. Came up to NY to see my mom, probably for the last time. A CAT scan a few weeks ago showed something on her lung that the doctor thinks is cancer, but she doesn’t want a biopsy — she’s assuming it’s cancer and saying 88 years is enough for her.

    I think she should have the biopsy in case it isn’t cancer, just so she doesn’t feel stupid waiting around for a death that isn’t coming for a while. I also tried saying she should buy herself more time because I’m sure there’ll be people at her funeral that I haven’t seen in years, so I want the extra time to lose some weight. No dice.

    It’s weird to have an angry, bitter mother looking forward to death so much that she wants to assume the worst. It would be one thing to undergo grueling chemo and finally say “enough.” But this feels more like she wants to commit slow suicide.

    Oh well. She’s always been unhappy. Now she’s in a nursing home and even more pissed off at the world than usual. It is what it is. I’m going home.

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    debbie says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Sorry to read about your daughter, but it’s good she’ll be able to get out of there when she sees he’s the same old asshole.

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    Schlemazel says:

    Our drain bamaged cat poops on the floor anytime we leave her for more than a day or two. It might just be their way of thanking their human for leaving them

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    Mary G says:

    Scalzi’s dog Daisy died and he wrote a lovely memory of her on his blog.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I agree with everyone else that you should monitor the situation for a day or so more and see if the problem persists. If the box filled up quickly, that could be the reason for the protest poop next to it. Also, it’s possible that something that was scary for the cats — a loud noise, another animal snuffling around — happened near that litter box and they decided to create a show of force, if you will.

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    frosty says:

    @Betty Cracker: I thought Mr. Revolta was indicating that there might be some Boys in DC that would be the attraction, not that he misunderstood you to have 19-yr old boys.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Irene Dunne singing “After the Ball” to Charles Winninger in James Whale’s Show Boat.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Is this anything to worry about? Anything we should let the owner know about?

    Tick tock, motherfuckers.

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    debbie says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):

    Sorry about your mother. My mom was the same way, though she did get a confirmed diagnosis. My dad had died 31 years earlier and she never recovered. She was ready to go, and so she did. Luckily, it was relatively painless and a very gentle passing. Though your mother’s bitter, I hope she finds some grace before the end.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Lilies are VERY toxic to cats. If you see so much as a nibble taken out of a leaf or flower, rush all of them to the vet ASAP because time is of the essence. Our two cats are fine and have no permanent kidney damage, but it was pretty scary while they were at the vet getting fluids for a week.

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    NotMax says:

    @zhena gogolia

    Still counts. One reason I widened the pool of possibilities, otherwise it’s kind of cramped.


    Surprised you didn’t name a certain other title right off the bat. Won’t provide it yet; don’t want to usurp someone else’s possible choice.

    Should it not show up, will mention it further down below later on.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    @ mattyglesias
    Every single Republican Party member of congress wakes up every single day and decides to abrogate constitutional responsibilities and abet Trump’s corruption.

    this is what drives me crazy, I know we’re drinking water from a firehose, but the passivity in the face of the relentless corruption and self-dealing drives me nuts

    I don’t think it’s just passivity. Looting the federal government has been a long-standing Republican goal. Witness the degree of corruption in the Shrub Administration. As with so much of what Trump does, the main difference is his brazenness in going about it. You know the rest of the party is just sitting there waiting to see if and how much he’s punished for it. If he manages to pull it off without winding up in prison, the rest of the party is going to follow.

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    @debbie: Thanks. I’m sorry you had to go through that, but I’m glad it was relatively easy on your mom.

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    Adrift says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): I’m sorry to hear that your mother is in the state she is in. Hopefully she will have a biopsy but from experience pressure on an older parent results in the opposite result. Like raising a child, I imagine. Do what you can and don’t beat yourself over it. She’s a grown woman and will make her own decisions regardless of what you think. Be supportive (as much as you can, within reason) and let her do what she wants.

    Edited for spelling, again. Sigh.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    It has been hinted in the past that boys are not an issue. Think outside the box, but let’s leave it there since it’s not our kid.

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    Adrift says:


    Tick tock, motherfuckers.

    Well done.

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    Tehanu says:

    The woods are lovely, dark and deep….

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    Adrift says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: Oh no! Nibiru!!

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    but the passivity in the face of the relentless corruption and self-dealing drives me nuts

    Corruption, self-dealing, even treason. How did the whole Republican Party turn on a dime like that? “Let’s give ourselves tax cuts” does not explain the shift from hyper patriot to lap dog.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):

    Ugh. I’m sorry. My late father-in-law once had something on his lung that they feared was cancer, but it turned out to be a long-healed lung infection of some kind. It was a brain tumor that got him in the end.

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    Adrift says:

    @Millard Filmore: They didn’t turn on a dime, it’s in their DNA. Oh, and opportunism.

    ETA opportunism

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    In 9 hours the New Year begins in Samoa.

    If you’re up at 8 AM Eastern, you can see the live spectacular fireworks show over Sydney Harbor at this (link)

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    debbie says:

    @Millard Filmore:

    How did the whole Republican Party turn on a dime like that? “Let’s give ourselves tax cuts” does not explain the shift from hyper patriot to lap dog.

    I think it was the power even more than the financial benefits. Remember Cheney’s “This is our due” or Karl Rove’s goal for a permanent majority? I’ve heard him bad-mouthing Trump a lot; I hope he chokes on it.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: But her emails!1!1

    ps: Imagine the hysteria if Obama got taxpayers to build him a helipad in Hawaii.

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    Adrift says:

    @David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch: Thanks, David, but I will be at work at 8AM eastern, in Times Square. Hopefully I will be the hell out of there by 4pm as it will be a complete shitshow, travel wise.

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    @Adrift: Thanks. And I agree, there’s only so much that can be done. She’s made her decision.

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, that’s what I tried to tell her — she might not even be dying (yet). But this is how she is. After almost 50 years of experience with her, I know better than to argue.

    My ride’s here. Into the plane I go.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Millard Filmore:

    How did the whole Republican Party turn on a dime like that?

    It hasn’t been a turn on a dime. Two points:

    1) Republican hyperpatriotism has always been a public stance more than a deeply held position. They’ve been more than happy to wish ill on American enterprises as long as it will help them politically. Cheering Chicago failing to land the Olympics because it made Obama look bad is a classic example.

    2) They’ve been willing to deal with America’s enemies before in pursuit of political advantage. Remember, Nixon interfered with the Paris peace talks to help his chances in 1968, and Reagan cut a deal with Iran to delay the release of our hostages to help himself in 1980. It should come as no surprise that Trump was willing to do the same, and the rest of the party was as willing to go along.

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    eclare says:

    @NotMax: Too easy I know, When Harry Met Sally. OT, cute newspaper headline about Prince Harry’s interview with Obama: When Harry Met Barry.

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    eclare says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): So sorry to hear that, hope she has a gentle goodbye.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @NotMax: not my favorite, but isn’t the Poseidon Adventure set on NYE?

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    Adrift says:

    @Roger Moore: Perfect examples of treasonous, hypocritical, self serving trash. In other words, a textbook definition of republicans. Or in another time, confederates.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): Damn, that sucks. I’m sorry.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I’ve heard [Rove] bad-mouthing Trump a lot; I hope he chokes on it.

    I can’t shout this from the rooftops often enough: having the Republican win a majority of the Electoral College with a minority of the popular vote was Karl Rove’s plan. He came up with it. He planned and executed and coordinated it. And by the time the Republican establishment realized that Rove’s apparatus was going to benefit Donald Jr. Trump instead of Jeb Bush, it was too late to stop the runaway train that Rove had put into motion at least 4 years before, and probably more like 8 years before.

    Rove has some nerve to whine about Trump since Rove is the one who ensured that Generic Republican would win in 2016.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Only because it was Yarrow. Otherwise I wouldn’t’ve.

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    David 🎅🎄Merry Christmas🎄🎅 Koch says:

    Vince Lombardi beats up a fan at the NFL most famous game – The Ice Bowl (video)

    50 years ago, tomorrow

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    Yarrow says:


    Tick tock, motherfuckers.

    LOL. I’ve kept my neighbor up on the latest Trump/Russia stuff all year. She says I’ve helped keep her halfway calm about things. I’m sure no one will be surprised to hear that I’ve said, “Tick tock, motherfuckers” more than once when discussing the subject with her.

    Thanks, everyone for your input on the cat situation. I’m not too concerned about the pooping outside the litter box. It’s mostly the massive amount inside the box with no extra food and water intake that has us confused. I’m relieved to hear it isn’t an “Oh, no! A full litter box with no explanation means X. Call the vet immediately!” type of situation.

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    Steeplejack says:


    You said you were emptying the litter boxes, plural. Are the other ones—besides the one that’s really full—being used by the cats? In my experience, sometimes something changes in the setup or the routine and they can decide that a litter box is no bueno or, alternately, that one is the only “safe” one.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Mnemosyne: My best friend’s step father had a spot on a chest X-ray that his doctor was convinced was cancer. He went through some godawful surgery to get it out (about a 6-foot long scar that snaked around his back, etc., etc.). After the surgery they did a proper biopsy and discovered it was, as in your FIL’s case, scar tissue from a previous pneumonia or something.


    Best of luck, Karen. I’m sorry she’s being stubborn. Here’s hoping it’s nothing serious.


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    Yarrow says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): I’m sorry to hear that. It sounds like you are at least at an acceptance stage of dealing with how she is. I hope everything goes peacefully and painlessly, no matter what the actual diagnosis is. Wishing you the best.

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    Steeplejack says:


    TCM is showing all the Thin Man movies in order starting at 8:00 p.m. EST tomorrow night.

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Roger Moore: The Nixon and Reagan dealings were chump change, those countries were no match for us. Like giving a dollar to a street beggar will not impact your lifestyle.

    My guess is that Newt germinated this process, the Tea Party goosed it bigly, becoming obvious when they were willing to have the USA default on the debt. And the fulfillment is now we have a traitor in the White House.

    How did China not see this coming? The debt crisis was 2013, it came down to only a week or two to spare. Someone in Beijing dropped the ball.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Steeplejack: There are two littler boxes and three cats. There used to be three boxes but they pretty much only used two so the owner got rid of one. They seem to mainly use only one litter box. The second one isn’t used all that much. I checked it but there wasn’t anything to clean and I’d only cleaned it yesterday.

    It was like that last summer when I took care of them as well, so I think it’s their habit. I talked to my neighbor about it and she said that’s how they are when she’s home too.

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    Calouste says:

    @NotMax: Havana, and probably every other movie that is set against the Cuban revolution.

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    Adrift says:

    Anyone been streaming the new season of Black Mirror on Netflix? I’ve done 4 of the 6 episodes and am headed to the final 2 tonight. I’ve liked them but so far don’t think they’ve matched earlier seasons despite all the hulabaloo about them.

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    eclare says:

    @Steeplejack: Oooh! Thanks for the DVR alert!

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Millard Filmore:

    The Nixon and Reagan dealings were chump change, those countries were no match for us.

    They still are evidence that the Republican position that they’re the most patriotic patriots who ever lived is an utter sham, and that betraying the country in search of political benefit is hardly novel behavior on their part. As with many criminals, they moved from smaller to larger crimes over time.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    Where in Wisconsin did they go?

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    Millard Filmore says:

    @Roger Moore: Yes, those earlier dealings were farts in the breeze, but opened the way to become susceptible to hanging offenses.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: West Bend!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Betty Cracker: Comparative warm there. Just saying.

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    NotMax says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Yes indeedy.


    90 minutes later….
    Mnemosyne, would have guessed you would name Holiday.

    One additional classic: Sunset Boulevard.

    Dark horse entries:

    Strange Days

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Let’s go, Badgers! (Like most non-South FL Floridians, I have nothing but contempt for da U!)

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @NotMax: A favorite of mine – especially for Jimmy Stewart’s rôle.

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    Brachiator says:

    Out and about before New Year’s Eve bundling up.

    Saw the new movie “Jumanji, Welcome to the Jungle.” The Rock is great as an insecure easily frightened nerd, and Jack Black is funny as hell as a self absorbed high school girl. Kevin Hart and Karen Gillan are also fun. Good action and a bit of heart.

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    BellyCat says:

    @Yarrow: I’ve heard that one should have one more litter box than the number of cats (such as two cats = 3 boxes).

    Has generally worked well for my crüe.

    Try it if this is not the case.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Betty Cracker: On Wisconsin!

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    japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Have to tell you, I was worried about them coming into this game. They have impressed me. A lot.

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    japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: My older sister (by older I mean she is older than dirt as I am old as dirt) is at the game, 32 yard line, 8 rows up behind the Badger bench. She told me to look for the woman wearing red. She’s a real joker.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @japa21: Paul Chryst has done a great job of getting his team to just prepare for the next game and iggy everything else.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @japa21: The woman in red? I saw her. She looks great.

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    japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: If they win the Big 10 goes to 7-0 in bowl games this year. No other conference close.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @japa21: But the Big 10 sucks…. Or so I keep being told.

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    Japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah. They aren’t good enough to clean the SECs latrines.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Japa21: But we aren’t bitter. Right?

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    Librarian says:

    Well then, Godfather 2 could be considered a NYE movie.

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    Japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Better get their act together.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Japa21: Done.

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    Japa21 says:

    @Japa21: Like that.

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    Japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Now to take advantage.

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    Japa21 says:

    Hornbrook is looking good.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Japa21: Batter them to a pulp now. Do the WI thing.

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    NotMax says:

    Found the perfect something for Mr. Cole’s lawn.


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    Original Lee says:

    Ocean’s 11 is set on New Year’s Eve, I think.

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    Japa21 says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wearing down the defense. Damn that would have been a big catch.

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    Original Lee says:

    @NotMax: Ocean’s 11 is set on New Year’s Eve, I think.

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    stinger says:

    @NotMax: Remember the Night runs from a couple of days before Christmas until a day or so after New Year’s. A pivotal scene between Barbara Stanwyck and Beulah Bondi takes place on NY Eve, so I’ve always considered it a New Year’s film.

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    stinger says:

    @stinger: And I”ll be watching it tomorrow!

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    J R in WV says:

    @Roger Moore:

    “Remember, Nixon interfered with the Paris peace talks to help his chances in 1968, and Reagan cut a deal with Iran to delay the release of our hostages to help himself in 1980.”

    Remember also, G W Bush and Cheney and their merry gang of “rebuilding a state” idjits moved bundles of $100 bills shrink-wrapped onto pallets into Iraq, used for what no one knows, accounted in no way.

    Now some may believe that money stayed in Iraq to rebuild the infrastructure we demolished with Air Power – but more practical members of the community are suspicious that most of that money landed in the pockets of Americans supporting the Bush activity in Iraq.

    The Republican party has been the party of kleptocrats stealing from Americans for decades at least. Eisenhower was the only R president not to smile and wink at thieves working in government in my memory. War is half organized to steal always, and more the kind of wars we have today. We still confiscate things stolen in WW II before I (an old man) was born!!

    New topic: Just got back from movie and dinner with neighbors. Getting up the hill from our rural hollow was slow and tedious, icy conditions and we took the FWD vehicle instead of the AWD vehicle. But got the job done. We did run several miles out of the way to pick up a set of chains (steel cables actually) to fit their Prius in case the weather stayed as bad as it was on the way out, now they have them, it wasn’t bad coming home so they stayed in the trunk. Good all around.

    StarWars: The Last Jedi” is a good movie. Very enjoyable.

    I teared up a little at some of Carrie Fisher’s scenes, knowing that she would be gone before people got a chance to see her great work. I can see why some people (misogynists, racists) might not like the film – those scenes they would hate were moving and made the good film great in my eyes, along with the other 3 people that saw it with me.

    I don’t think there are any spoilers here that haven’t been talked about a lot. I did notice scenes that wouldn’t have worked that way in our current universe, but this story is long ago and far away, nothing says things worked that way then and there. Besides, it’s Science FICTION people – not physics 101.

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    J R in WV says:

    @Another Scott:

    My dad had a spot on a chest x-ray during a routine physical. Hadn’t smoked for 30 years, multiple biopsies were negative. Surgeons talked him into huge chest surgery to remove a lobe of his left lung – it was something they called an “encysted infection” that might have been there for years.

    Those big horizontal incisions sever a lot of nerves, which hurt and are numb at the same time, for a long time if not the rest of your life. Lesson learned for me. I haven’t had a chest x-ray in years, don’t plan to without symptoms. At 67 I’m reasonably active, intend to stay active as long as possible. Come spring travel some. Then work on elections.

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    Another Scott says:

    @J R in WV: Horrible. :-(

    Physicians are human and make mistakes, but surgery is a big deal and they really shouldn’t be so anxious to cut people open. :-(

    I can understand Karen’s mom’s reticence after seeing Red’s scar – and seeing how rough it was on him to go through that and try to recover from it. 88 (Karen’t mom’s age) is a long run, and surgery like that is rough under the best of circumstances. Here’s hoping she doesn’t have to go through it.

    Fingers crossed.


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    Lyrebird says:

    @Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): Lots of things I might say about fast versus slow and all, but I doubt any of them would help. Certainly would not make any of this easy.

    I hope your ride home is or was smooth and that you are welcomed back with love and support from everyone around you in GA.

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    NotMax says:

    To everyone who contributed movie titles, thanks. Good fun.

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