The George Soros forgeries are getting better and better:
Debbie Wesson Gibson was in her attic hauling out boxes of Christmas decorations last week when she noticed a storage bin she said she had forgotten about. Inside was a scrapbook from her senior year of high school, and taped to a page titled “Those Who Inspire” was a graduation card.
“Happy graduation Debbie,” it read in slanted cursive handwriting. “I wanted to give you this card myself. I know that you’ll be a success in anything you do. Roy.”
[….]At a Nov. 27 campaign event in the north Alabama town of Henagar, Moore said, “The allegations are completely false. They are malicious. Specifically, I do not know any of these women.”
At a Nov. 29 rally at a church in the south Alabama town of Theodore, Moore said, “Let me state once again: I do not know any of these women…
I hope Alabama is ready for lots of boycotts if they elect this pedophile.
TenguPhule
Boycotts of what? It’s Alabama, for pete’s sakes.
Back end of Fuckall and middle of bumfuckistan.
/No offense meant to any Bjer who has the misfortune to still live there
Nicole
The problem with boycotts is- what does Alabama have that anyone wants? It’s not a boycott if you were already avoiding it.
Trentrunner II - Pie Is Squared
From previous thread, but relevant:
MSNBC just fired Sam Seder for this 2009 tweet:
Mike Cernovich (Pizzagate fame) had been stoking his alt-right friends into fake frenzy about it.
MSNBC is topped by cowards and hypocrites.
Yutsano
@Nicole: A not half bad beach near Mobile and footbawl games. Other than that, I THINK there’s a couple of foreign car plants down that way.
The Moar You Know
I don’t know what there is in Alabama to boycott.
My family is from there. Used to go back every year. Hated it. Last grandparent standing died in 2004 and no family member has set foot in the state since probate. No reason to.
I like the South and there’s some pretty cool places down there, but not any of them are in Alabama (State motto: Come on in, the water’s polluted with PCBs!). Think Hyundai has a plant there and they have the Spaceflight center but that’s really it. The state is a boring shithole, to be honest. I don’t know why anyone stays. My family certainly didn’t. Hell, I don’t even know why anyone would visit.
Yutsano
@The Moar You Know: Oh yeah forgot about the space stuff in Huntsville. Pretty sure that had to do with a pork project an old Senator got. It’s the only way to explain how Martinsburg, West Virginia got one of the major IRS computer hubs. The magic of Robert Byrd!
wjs
@Nicole: Football.
You want to hurt Alabama? Ban their football team(s) from NCAA play. Ban Alabama and Auburn. Ban their universities from all NCAA activity.
The NCAA does not want another pedo scandal.
eclare
@Yutsano: Big time Mercedes plant.
Hunter Gathers
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: MSNBC, like the NYT, is quite upset about their lack of appeal to the deplorable/Nazi/pedophile demographic.
eclare
@wjs: Too bad the SEC Championship isn’t there anymore, that would kick them where it hurts.
TenguPhule
@eclare: Who still drives mercedes these days?
clay
I was born in Alabama, left when I was three. But I’ve been back at times. The northern part just seems like Georgia with worse roads, and the coast is Louisiana with a worse Mardi Gras. And all without any cultural centers like Atlanta, Athens, or New Orleans.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Off topic, but I was watching MSNBC a few minutes ago, and Jim Jordan, the frantic congressman from Ohio was on, lying about Democrats, because that’s what he does. And what is it about this guy? He somehow comes across as more of an asshole than any other Republican I can think of, even including Czar Manbaby and Steve King. What is it about him that makes him seem so assholish? I remember him yelling at Hillary Clinton two years ago at one of the Benghazi hearings, and he was easily the most obnoxious asshole on the committee. This might seem like a random or trivial thing, but I really want to know what makes him so awful, so viscerally repellent, when there are people who, by all rights should seem worse.
Patricia Kayden
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: Hmmmm. My gut reaction is that that’s not funny but I see your point which is that Cernovich is going through old comments by Leftwingers and highlighting the most outrageous of them for political purposes. He did the same thing to Joy Reid and she had to apologize for old comments about Charlie Crist. Crist forgave her.
Ridnik Chrome
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: Just goes to show what can happen when one forgets to include a sarcasm tag.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m no fan of Willard Romney, but in any red state but Utah this would be the end of his career in politics
Too bad he didn’t feel that way about having a racist make robocalls to WWC precincts in MI and OH
different-church-lady
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: Nice job being “edgy” there, Sam.
Fuckin’ Twitter…
Ridnik Chrome
I dunno about boycotts, but if Moore actually gets elected, the Democrats should quietly approach a few high profile Republican women (Collins or Murkowski, maybe?) about switching parties.
Cacti
@clay:
Now here’s a conundrum for you:
Is Alabama: Georgia minus Atlanta, or is Georgia: Alabama plus Atlanta?
Chyron HR
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
Let me guess, we should all watch Fox to show MSNBC we won’t stand for this?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
It made me go ew, too, but now I’m wondering if that wasn’t a reaction to some Polanski defender’s response when asked “how would you feel if it were your daughter?” I have a vague recollection about that.
and clearly a condemnation of Polanski and his defenders, whatever the context. I don’t think Lack and Griffin care much for or about Sam Seder
dmsilev
Maybe he means “know” in the Biblical sense.
I don’t think any of the women have made that particular allegation. Yet, anyway.
JMG
Don’t watch cable news, period. For that matter, don’t watch broadcast news. Local news for weather should be it.
different-church-lady
So, when we’re done firing everyone who ever made a stupid comment, Trump will still be Molester In Chief and only the ones who went about their harassment quietly will still be employed.
Let’s remember that Billy Bush has still paid a larger price for something Trump did than Trump has. Baby, bathwater, fuck it, it’s all going out, except for the guy who got it all started.
MattF
Problem is that the effects of living in Alabama are worse than the effects of any boycott.
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Can’t lose what they never had in the first place.
scav
@TenguPhule:, @Nicole: et al, well, the AL dept of tourism could just be aiming for a much-closer, no passport-required, and no scary-food-on-display substitute for Thailand.
Mike in DC
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
I now have whiplash. Firing people over optics is cowardly, but Franken should resign because optics matter?
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
But we will have remained pure as driven snow in our ideals and faith. //
Patricia Kayden
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Don’t forget that before the election, Romney spoke out against Trump. After the election, we had this photo. Let’s see if Romney’s backbone holds up if Moore wins.
TenguPhule
@scav:
I’ve seen authentic Southern cooking.
I’d rather take my chances eating Thai insect dishes.
different-church-lady
@Mike in DC: You don’t understand: progressive writers will always be worth more than progressive politicians, because progressive writers have never committed the cardinal progressive sin of winning an election.
clay
@Cacti: You have to factor Athens in there somewhere.
raven
@Cacti: Or Savannah
sheila in nc
@Cacti: Umm, mathematically they are the same thing.
Trentrunner II - Pie Is Squared
@Mike in DC: Franken should resign because groping women is wrong.
Seder should not be fired because his joke was targeting squishy liberal support of Polanski, not endorsing THE RAPE OF HIS DAUGHTER.
Not rocket surgery, morally speaking.
At least to me. :)
Mike in DC
@different-church-lady:
Gosh, I sure hope nobody finds out that Wilmer wrote some really shitty misogynistic stuff in the 70s and never apologized for it.
TenguPhule
@Ridnik Chrome:
No. We know what they are and we know they’re cheap to rent.
raven
@clay: We flipped a couple of seats this year.
Mike in DC
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
allegedly is the missing term of art here.
Patricia Kayden
@different-church-lady: If you keep in mind that someone like Trump could never reach such a high position had he been a Democrat, everything you wrote makes sense.
TenguPhule
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
Still waiting for actual proof of any actual groping. And a non-Republican to make a credible accusation.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Honda, Toyota and Hyundai all have auto plants in Alabama for the usual reasons of avoiding unionizing, lower safety requirements, massive tax “incentives” to get them there in the first place.
Roger Moore
@Mike in DC:
Nobody will find out about it unless he actually wins the Democratic nomination, because the people who dig up and publicize that stuff won’t want to hurt him until then.
Trentrunner II - Pie Is Squared
@Mike in DC: Franken admitted it. He apologized for it. This is not in question.
Patricia Kayden
@Ridnik Chrome: Collins and Murkowski just voted for the tax bill. What makes you think they’d switch parties? The majority of White women who voted in last year’s election supported Trump. I have no reason to believe that Collins and Murkowski are different from those White women.
TenguPhule
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
No he didn’t. He has apologized in general and admitted to taking the photo.
Nothing else.
All of the accusations are in question because EVERY SINGLE ACCUSER IS A FUCKING REPUBLICAN.
Brachiator
If the polls are accurate, the voters in Alabama have made their decision. They will have to live with it. Unfortunately, the rest of us will have to suffer for it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
MSNBC is confirming that Mueller has filed with a court to revoke Manafort’s bail agreement
Corner Stone
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: Who needs to resign NOW for this? Everyone?
debbie
GOP = Gaggle ‘o Pedophiles
scav
@TenguPhule: That was rather my weakest element, but then, you may also not be cultural wired for dating barely pubescent girls. Might be something genetically cross-wired between cravings for Chik-fil-A and Chik-fille-date. (Chik-4-DA in this exact instance?)
Corner Stone
@Nicole: Some pretty good golf courses if you’re in to that kind of thing.
Robert Trent Jones Golf
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
What an idiot:
LA Times.
Ridnik Chrome
@TenguPhule:
If we can accept Arlen Specter, we can accept pretty much anybody. Hell, I’d even take Collins as a Jim Jeffords-type independent-but-caucuses-with-Democrats.
But seriously, forget about “high-profile”. I hope that somewhere, anywhere, in the Republican Party there will be a woman or two for whom Senator Roy Moore will be the straw that broke the elephant’s back.
Mike in DC
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: What, specifically, did he admit to?
Raoul
@TenguPhule: Can we mount a campaign to embarrass the crap out of Airbus? They have one airliner production line in Mobile. They have announced plans to add a second assembly line.
Does this international corporate giant want to be investing big in peophile-loving ‘Bama?
d58826
OT but Ali Velshi and Stephan Rule giving a GOP critter the 3rd degree on the tax bill. Man don’t want to get on the wrong side of Ms Rule. Esp. like the shaking of heads midway thru the clip
https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2017/12/utah-congressman-doubles-down-trickle
patrick II
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
I can’t really defend anyone saying that about his daughter. Maybe I’m just not sophisticated enough with ironic hyperbole, but I can’t defend that.
Mike in DC
@debbie:
Revoke his bail. Throw him in real jail, not house arrest. Watch him flip within a month.
TenguPhule
@Ridnik Chrome:
Hope in one hand, crap in the other.
Guess which one will fill first.
clay
@raven: Go Dawgs!
Corner Stone
@Patricia Kayden:
They (MSNBC) nail Joy on this bullshit and I want her, MHP and Tamron Hall to start their own cable channel. I will be a foundation donor (not enough to get your name on the plaque, but as much as I can).
TenguPhule
@Raoul:
Boeing does that already for us. They have more money and better connections then we do.
Corner Stone
@Ridnik Chrome:
Fuck them. They are both too stupid to live.
debbie
@Mike in DC:
Also from my link:
Seriously? That’s Trump-level deal making!
TenguPhule
@debbie: God’s Own Pestilence.
Raoul
*Sorry if the headline in the link just above is confusing. International smashmouth trade politics has meant that in retaliation for Boeing going after Bombardier for a sale of airplanes to Delta, Airbus has bought a 51% stake in Bombardier. The JV has plans to build a second line at Mobile to build the JV aircraft. It’s all bizarre (and very much about the oligarchs in the Trump admin conspiring with Boeing, but all that for another day).
My point is that Alabama has a rep, but it also has some actual high-tech business that could be targeted for corporate pressure campaigns.
KatieStPaul
I’ve never been to Alabama, and had of course planned to keep things that way, but Bryan Stephenson’s Equal Justice Initiative is located in Montgomery, and as part of their amazing racial justice work, they’re opening a museum and a national lynching memorial next spring. Not exactly the most cheerful tourist attraction in the world, but sounds like it’s going to be quite powerful. I’d hate for people to miss seeing something like that because of a boycott. Even if a boycott is in every other way damn appropriate.
different-church-lady
@Patricia Kayden: Well, we also have to keep in mind that democrats never would have allowed Trump to gain the democratic nomination.
different-church-lady
@Corner Stone: Yes. Everyone resigns. We start over. New rules.
Five years from now we find out which creeps were the most successful at manipulating their way to the top past the new rules.
d58826
@different-church-lady: Maybe those super-delegates aren’t such a bad idea after all
Argiope
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I can help you with that; Lard help me, Jim’s mine. OH 4th has been in Republican hands in all but 16 years since the CIVIL WAR. So part of it is geography/sorting and part of it is gerrymander; my very liberal area was annexed to it during the last round of redistricting, diluting progressives by apportioning them strategically. (The 4th was going to stay R, mind you, it’s just that my community no longer matters since we’ve been added to it.) We are so desperate for a change that we’re looking for less crazy Rs to draft to who might be persuaded to primary him. OH is a state where you need to declare affiliation in order to get a primary ballot, so several of us are willing to change affiliation for the primary to vote him out, then change back after the election is over. Ohio’s 4th: where if you’re lucky, you get to help choose which Republican will represent you.
Uncle Cosmo
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: You should be banhammered into a floorstain for terminal stupidity. (In fact I thought you already were – how the fuck did you climb back on??)
B.B.A.
@d58826: The RNC is busy fixing their rules to avoid a repeat of 2016. The new key rule is that the nomination must go to a direct male-line descendant of Prescott Bush.
TenguPhule
@Argiope:
Sounds like we should evacuate you and the minority of sane people before calling in rotating carpet bombings for the district.
Steve in the ATL
@TenguPhule:
Seriously?
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
Baud 2020: Where we’re going, there are no rules.
WaterGirl
@Brachiator: The only thing similar about the two recent polls is the number of people who appear to have no opinion.
How many of those people who have no stated opinion are voting for Moore and too ashamed to say so? How many are voting against Moore or staying home but don’t want to say that? How many are voting for the Democrats, but they don’t want to say that out loud?
All this tells me is that we aren’t going to know what’s up in this race until the voting is done. There is no way to predict this outcome.
Yutsano
@Uncle Cosmo: He added a new nym to get around pie filters. Which also should be bannable IMHO.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Most interesting! Are there any details?
Never mind, I see details up thread.
Ridnik Chrome
@TenguPhule: What can I say? I believe that even the worst sinner is capable of redemption. It’s why I’m a liberal.
Trentrunner II - Pie Is Squared
@Uncle Cosmo: lol
A Ghost to Most
@TenguPhule:
I think we’re already there.
Raoul
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, posted an LA Times piece in the obstruction thread from earlier today. Sleazy guy ghostwrote an op-ed for a Russian with intelligence service ties. Seems he has no better sense of self-preservation now than before four indictment counts.
Mnemosyne
@Mike in DC:
Let’s not even get into the fact that apparently rape apology is apparently A-OK if our trollish friend likes the person who does it.
matt
Actually in a state with as small an economic base as Alabama, a boycott is a powerful weapon. I have been thinking people should threaten a boycott loudly before the election and see if Alabamans have the guts to commit economic suicide for the pedophile.
J R in WV
The only time I voluntarily went to Alabama was back in 1983, when WVU played Kentucky and won. It was really cold. Dad paid the costs, and had a flask in his coat pocket, which we drank to keep from frostbite.
We also went to the Bluebonnet Bowl the next year in Houston, and won again. After that was a long drought.
I’ve driven through Alabama, but never stopped there, and never again went there on purpose. I was also there way back in the early 1970s while in the USN, and saw New Orleans music figure Dr. John the Night Tripper in Mobile. There was a small after show riot that broke giant sheets of glass in the lobby because they didn’t sell enough tix to pay Spirit to perform.
We avoided the excitement after that took place, and I was only back again for the Bowl Game. Only planning to possibly pass through en route to other places in the future. All I know personally about Alabama is yetch!
Trentrunner
@Yutsano: lol
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Both Ari Melber (not so surprising) and a reporter from the Wall St Journal are going to great lengths to explain that they’re reporting the White House story on the tweet and Dowd, that doesn’t mean they believe it
@WaterGirl: here ya go.. I’ll defer to the lawyers, but it looks to me like this is Meuller once again letting witnesses and potential targets he doesn’t like to be fucked with.
ETA: out of my price rage but if I could afford a fancy sedan I’d look at Mercedes. Not crazy about their SUV/crossover models
Corner Stone
@matt: A threatened boycott by same-sex black immigrant yankees would only serve to harden the resolve of all Alabamans. They’d elect Moore to the Senate and also elect his lying ass wife to the SCOTUS after they ritually murdered a D one on the bench.
Brachiator
@WaterGirl:
True enough. Unfortunately, I think that the people who are unwilling or reluctant to talk to pollsters are Moore supporters. I would love to be wrong, though.
B.B.A.
@Yutsano: What about changing nyms to get around the spam filter? Is that still okay?
Unlike certain other shitposters here, I can take a hint. I’m not discussing that topic anymore, because I aim to please.
WaterGirl
@debbie: This whole crew is stupid and arrogant! Rule #1: Do not try to get cute with the guy who holds your life in his hands. Writing that editorial was like giving Mueller the middle finger. Stupid and arrogant.
TenguPhule
@matt:
Yes.
SATSQ.
TenguPhule
@WaterGirl:
To be fair, its what’s worked for them so far.
JoeyJoeJoe Junior Shabadoo
@Argiope:
They used to be better . William McCulloch helped with the Civil Rights acts in the 1960s when he was the top Republican on the Judiciary committee
Roger Moore
@debbie:
It sounds as if Manafort is not about to flip, so Mueller is turning up the heat.
Corner Stone
@Ridnik Chrome:
Call me what you will, but I desire that the worst sinner(s) meet(s) their maker ASAP and let him/her determine their redemption.
B.B.A.
@Brachiator:
My own personal motto. I’m a congenital pessimist and I hate being right.
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Freudian Slip?
TenguPhule
@B.B.A.:
Come sit by me. I suspect we’ll be joined by others.
PJ
@debbie: Rules don’t apply to someone like Manafort. Apparently, despite the existence of a stop work order which has been in place for a while, he’s been having contractors working on his house in Brooklyn during the night: https://pardonmeforasking.blogspot.com/2017/12/for-paul-manafort-stop-work-order-on.html.
Raoul
@KatieStPaul: Glad to hear that news of Stevenson’s project is getting out. I’ve been donating to EJI for a couple of years, ever since he spoke at a monthly townhall forum cosponsored by MN Public Radio and a local, very establishment downtown Minneapolis church. Stevenson is such an impressive example of a lawyer with deep compassion and a model for social change. Also heard him this year at my UU Denominational Annual Conference.
Alabama has a lot of problems, but shouldn’t be written off. Learning the history of African Americans in the south is certainly one reason.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Does Alan Dershowitz still teach at Harvard? Where Sean Spicer was a teaching fellow or some such? I feel a whole lot better about my second-tier degrees
sigaba
I was on a shoot in Rome, GA near the Alabama border and we (being the crew) stayed at a lake house on Weiss lake, in a wide part of the Coosa river. It was beautiful. I’ve also been to Space Camp.
I guess Mobile is nice, they shot Close Encounters of The Third Kind there, which is why all the kids supposedly from Muncie, Indiana all have thick southern accents.
This concludes my knowledge of Alabama, it could be boycotted, but I don’t think they’d feel anything until we started cutting their medicare or maybe closing some bases.
eclare
@Raoul: Southern Poverty Law Center is also in Montgomery.
Omnes Omnibus
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): He was a wrestler.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
In Utah! What would Brother Brigham say?
Roger Moore
@B.B.A.:
Maybe they should consider requiring all candidates to disclose a minimum number of years of taxes.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore: That bill was voted down in the House last week. Along party lines.
Sloane Ranger
@debbie: What the hell? You’d think his lawyers would have warned him about the consequences of violating his bail conditions. He’s either very stupid or very arrogant- and I don’t think he’s stupid.
Hope he ends up discovering that orange is indeed the new black.
Chyron HR
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“Bring me another wife! I’m allowed to have up to nine!”
Mary G
Don’t know if it’s true, but I hope it is. I think reducing national monuments by 2 million acres in Utah was a huge mistake. Utahns may be Republicans, but they are rightly proud of the national wonders in their state.
Raoul
@eclare: I should have known that. My partner and I went to Selma & Montgomery in 2015. Powerful visit, but we didn’t allow enough time given all there was to see and experience.
MJS
@Roger Moore: I think this is Manafort’s signal to Trump & the Russians that he’s not cooperating with Mueller
Roger Moore
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
My impression is there are a lot of passionate supporters of the National Monuments in the surrounding communities. There are also some passionate opponents, but there are enough people who are really angry about shrinking the Monuments that it’s not the tiniest bit surprising that there would be protests.
debbie
@WaterGirl:
I can’t get past his being willing to forfeit $11+ million in order to travel “among” states.
divF
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
You again. Pied.
Kathleen
@different-church-lady: His tweet was disgusting. What a creep.
Mike J
@TenguPhule:
Lewis Hamilton.
Roger Moore
@Mary G:
The problem is that it’s a polarizing issue, and Trump is very publicly siding with one side. There is a vocal group of Utahans who despise government ownership of land in their state because they want to exploit that land by mining, logging, and ranching. There’s another, less vocal group that sees tourism as a more practical, more sustainable way of making a living from that land. The Republicans have a long-term relationship with the people who want to do resource extraction, so they’ve sided with them on the National Monuments issue. I’m sure Republican hatred of minorities has also worked to drive their opposition to Bears Ears.
agorabum
The Civil Rights Museum in Birmingham and the 16th Street Baptist Church are all amazing.
Birmingham itself is a fun town; college vibe, good music, juke joint bars open into the early hours of the morning.
Mnemosyne
@sigaba:
Kids from Indiana have Southern accents. I’m from Illinois, I know.
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady:
Yeah, how stupid are these people?
Librarian
There’s also Monroeville, home of Harper Lee and To Kill a Mockingbird, and very dependent on tourism.
joel hanes
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared:
Franken should resign because groping women is wrong.
You’ve said that. Others disagree.
You keep saying it — not defending it, not rebutting the objections posed — just repeating yourself.
pied
Origuy
The 2021 World Games are going to be in Birmingham, Alabama. The World Games are an off-year Olympics, featuring sports that aren’t in the regular Olympics. I was thinking about going, but I’m not sure now.
Jay Noble
@Yutsano: NASA in Huntsville!!!
Nicole
@Yutsano: I don’t like going to the beach, I don’t watch football and I don’t own a car. There is nothing I can threaten Alabama with boycotting that I’m not already ignoring. Le sigh.
Barry
@Ridnik Chrome: “I dunno about boycotts, but if Moore actually gets elected, the Democrats should quietly approach a few high profile Republican women (Collins or Murkowski, maybe?) about switching parties.”
Remember the tax vote? Those ‘moderate’ Republican ‘ladies’ caved.
They didn’t have a problem with Trump, and they won’t have a problem with Moore.
PJ
@different-church-lady: He wrote that because he was outraged at a petition circulating to have Polanski released from detention in Switzerland because he was a “great artist”. http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/msnbc-cuts-sam-seder-over-roman-polanski-rape-joke.html.
http://www.indiewire.com/2009/09/over-100-in-film-community-sign-polanski-petition-55821/ Irony taken out of context loses much of its flavor after 8 years, and particularly for Americans who could never taste it anyway, but Seder was on point with his tweet.
PJ
@Kathleen: And, once again, “liberals” fall for Republican ratfucking. I know irony is lost on Americans, but it accused rapist and advocate for violence against women (not to mention promoter of “Pizzagate”) Mike Cernovich who has been pushing the attack against Seder: https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/935647134359027712.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mike in DC:
and when the accused was a professional comedian. But context or nuance are for the weak.
So Trentrunner, should we shit can any husband who grouped his wife since women are so untouchable, no exceptions? Additional question; I am sure at a drunken party back in the 80s I grabbed a woman at lest once (statistically speaking it’s very likely I did, though I don’t recall, it was the 80s you know). Should I be terminated from from my current job?
But let’s be honest here Trent, who among has hasn’t seen a woman in a clinging suite of body armor and thought “hmm, I got to tap that”. Women + Body Armor, an’t playing fair and Franken is only human.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
If Moore is elected and seated, the state should be boycotted. I say this even though I have family and friends there, in the tech industries, in academics, fighting their asses off against the abomination that is Roy Moore.
They aren’t the problem, of course. Neither are the college athletes (not even the Auburn ones). Or retirees like my mom, a poll worker and voting rights advocate for decades.
But yes, financial pressure is available, and it should be applied.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@PJ:
Hypocrisy is lost on Americans. Not to mention we can’t be bothered to remember anything over four hours,
Ithink
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Because that dumb crazy cracker mother****** is a Freedom Caucus member; no further explanation is needed. They’re the wingnuttiest, vehemently reactionary and supply-side economic its am swallowers in all our great republic. Only the literal alt-right foot soldiers are REMOTELY a few notches below them. To say nothing of the pond scum rank & file that continue electing them.
different-church-lady
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: America is lost on Americans.
eemom
@Barry:
Exactly. And imo, they are the worst amongst their entire party of plutocrat whores for doing that — them and McCain — for betraying the tentative trust of millions that in fact they were different from the rest.
Also, what a joke — Collins would have joined the Democratic party a million years ago if she were not, in fact, just another plutocrat whore.
eemom
@PJ:
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
@different-church-lady:
2+2=4 is lost on americans.
Ladyraxterinok
@Trentrunner II – Pie Is Squared: RW is using dem ideals vs dems. Same thing happening with Joy Reid. And Franken (altho that’s a bit different).
Would think fact that Rachel and Joy seem to be friends would blunt the RW’s attack on Joy.
We should be prepared for this type of attack vs all effective dem spokes people.
We should also fight back with the immense number of sexual predators in the ministry, esp Evangelicals. See for examle Bruce Gerencser’s blog. And Bob Felton’s. Thewartburgwatch.com also posts frequently about this.
James E. Powell
@Kathleen:
It seems pretty certain that he was being sarcastic, no?
brendancalling
Easy to boycott that dumb fucking state.
BTW, if you go to the Space Center in Huntsville Alabama (as I have) they have a wonderful exhibition on the mission to the moon, which was led by noted Nazi Werner von Braun. They make absolutely NO MENTION of his background. Apparently he learned rocket science in 1938 and then he suddenly appeared in the US in the 1940s. The entire period between isn’t even MENTIONED.
So yeah, easy to avoid Alabama. It’s not like they make anything.
Bill Arnold
There is the Boll Weevil Monument in Enterprise, Alabama.
One hopes that if the accused child molester wins and is seated in the Senate, that he is treated as he deserves in all Washington public spaces and commercial establishments.
Ajabu
They DID make my gorgeous, chocolate brown bride of 26 years this month (well, her parents in Alabama did) but she hasn’t lived there in 40+ years. And I constantly remind her that she’s essentially a West Indian woman who was somehow born in Alabama. When I took her to the islands she was home, and really can’t abide Alabama culture.
Still lots of family in Mobile, though. And they’re not going anywhere…
Regine Touchon
@TenguPhule: I do. However we’re working our butts off trying to get Doug Jones elected. We are establishing a grass roots movement here in Lee County AL. To help get him over the finish line donate to his campaign.
Jack the Second
As an aside, what is the idiot left’s problem with Franken?
Caphilldcne
My family is all in Alabama and fighting the good fight. They ended up there cause my dad retired from USAF out of Maxwell AFB and frankly the land was cheaper than going back north. It’s nice having 20′ of water off your dock. It’s funny, even my sister’s gay friends (I’m gay so she keeps trying to introduce us) are pretty right wing down there (largely racism – none of them make any real money). Like everywhere it’s somewhat blue urban and very red rural and extremely hard to deal with. My niece is a fierce liberal in a catholic school and they don’t cut her much slack. My nephew (age 14 cut him a break – but I’ll be sad if it persists in college) went full MAGA. The whole family struggles with it. Anyway after 30 years of visiting I enjoy orange beach, and Huntsville and Birmingham, ok with Montgomery, love the Hank Williams museum (and gravesite), love the Biscuits baseball team, love the civil rights memorial and the civil rights park/museum and much more but I hate hate hate the naked racism.
Wish they’d gotten out. But they are there. A little island of blue. My family will vote for Jones. I’ve donated. I hope this energized the very substantial political minority. In the end I think they’re gonna get left behind by the rest of America. And my fierce niece will move on. And Alabama will be left to marinate in its deluded dreams.