Floriduh Man to Ohio Man: Hold My Beer!

In a clear attempt to maintain Florida’s well earned status as the home of turning the crazy up to 11, a Florida Democratic Party Official has turned to his Ohio Man counterpart and said hold me beer!

From The Tampa Bay Times:

Stephen Bittel’s rocky tenure as Florida Democratic Party chairman ended in disgrace Friday after he resigned following accusations from women that he leered at them, made suggestive comments and created an unprofessional work environment.

Bittel said he is working with party leaders to set a date to elect his successor.
Elected in January after a contentious internal campaign, Bittel lasted less than a year on the job.  His departure marks the latest case of sexual impropriety shaking the state Capitol.

Bittel’s position became untenable after all four major Democratic candidates for Florida governor urged his ouster following a Politico Florida report late Thursday in which six women anonymously complained about Bittel’s behavior. They said he was “creepy” and “demeaning.” Bittel apologized, but it was not enough.

Bittel appears to have gone all out in his attempt to earn his Floriduh Man! card and keep Florida much, much stranger than Ohio.

Floriduh Man: offensive and educational!

Open thread!

206 replies
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    That’s a lot of clitorises. Clitorēs?

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    Baud says:

    There are teenage boys who are shaking their heads right now.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    @Major Major Major Major: probably clitorii.
    What is wrong with people? Jeebus.

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    PhoenixRising says:

    @Major Major Major Major: It is! And while I can grok that she was unaware of variations, I’ve seen…a few more than she has…and there are what I think I can safely refer to as ‘types’. (This is a family blog after all.) All I’m saying is, each was not in its own category, most likely. But I could be wrong! Hundreds is a LOT!

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    mai naem mobile says:

    @Baud: they would have at least send that by snapchat.

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    BBA says:

    And we wonder why we can’t beat Lex Luthor.

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    debit says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I can only reply with this image.

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    Feebog says:

    Seems like an easy call. If the guy was emailing vagina pics you can be sure there is more out there.

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    Nicole says:

    It’s things like this that really make me feel like there is some huge, yawning, chasm of difference between men and women. It would never, and I mean, NEVER have occurred to me to go looking for lots of different pictures of genitalia (of any gender), compile them into one email, and then send out that email. I just want to take him by the shoulders and say “What happened to you to make you like this?” Except then he’d probably pull out his peenie and wave it at me.

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    jl says:

    The long time source/friend didn’t seem upset or offended by the case of the wayward clitori.
    Were they working on some important Florida state clitorial policy issue?

    So, he was offensive when it came to boobs,, but other parts not so much?

    Weird FloridaMan stories starting to get intriquing nuance and subtlety. Bravo to Florida. Do it with flair.

    @Nicole: It never occurred to me either. But now, I am getting curious. Not sure whether that is evidence for your theory or not.

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    debit says:

    @Nicole: Yeah, you really have to wonder at the disconnect in thinking where he thought “I know what will win her heart! Clit pics!”

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    Gator90 says:

    My Alabama friend and I have been arguing for years over which state is more bizarre, Alabama or Florida. I’ve always said Florida, but if Roy Moore ends up representing Alabama in the United States Senate, I’m going to surrender.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Major Major Major Major: @mai naem mobile: depends on whether the root word is Greek or Latin. I’ll leave that up to others to research.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: Shaking their what now?

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    Baud says:

    said she remembers he accidentally (she thinks) sent her an email with “pictures of dozens, if not hundreds, of clitorises .


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    Corner Stone says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Clitoratti. They are also the ones who made Steve Guttenberg a star.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Man, I am just wore out. There’s been soooo much that happened again this week. But once again, no ^%#%UIOO^%$#@ INDICTMENT RELEASED BY MUELLER!!! I think he’s trying to kill me.

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    @Steve in the ATL: and if Latinate, it depends on the declension. Mine is rusty enough that I don’t remember if there are multiple with nominative singular -is.

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    Baud says:

    We’re only a few weeks away from GoatseGate, aren’t we?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Feebog: More as in more pictures or more as in more body parts than just this body part. The former is a maybe, the latter is a definitely.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @debit: “Here’s a solid way to let you know that, I too, celebrate your treasured femininity!”

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Nicole: Unless he’s an OB/GYN in his day job and he was doing a comparative study for said day job, this is definitely a stranger paraphilia.

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    jl says:

    @Baud: Exactly what I was wondering. And why would she offer that as an explanation? My best guess is that the guy was so obliviously obsessed with P 0 r nnn, and people caught him sneaking it around with him so many times that they could reasonably surmise he just mixed up business with hobby and attached a few thousand explicit pics by mistake to some email.

    But hard to imagine such a mix of toxic offensiveness and blithering cluelessness. But, it is Florida, it is our new craziest state, and I have to assume the state is an expert at something like that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @debit: Maybe he was trying to prove he could find it, unless those other guys…

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    Adam L Silverman says:



    My guess is he hit the send button.

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: I don’t know what that means, and I don’t want to know what that means. Maybe just a hint Is Erick Erickson involved.

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    Jeffro says:

    @mai naem mobile: cue Tuesday column by Brooksie on the need for more spirituality, more connected-ness, in order to keep the pervs from perving…

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    Baud says:

    Some people are happy collecting stamps.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: We all kicked in $10 apiece, sent it to his executive assistant, and requested he terminate you via prosecutorial delay. They accepted so they could bank the money in case Congress cuts off their funding.//

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    Baud says:


    : I don’t know what that means, and I don’t want to know what that means.

    Your instincts are correct.

    ETA:. And to answer your question, for the love of God I hope not.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Corner Stone: I think I jinxed it…I’ve been known to do that…I’m sorry.

    Let’s see if it really holds up: “the Pats will win the Super Bowl again this year!” Please FSM, I’ve never wanted to be wronger in my life (except late one night about a year ago)

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    Jury duty update. I got a revised date of my choosing, it is in June, so thankfully no driving north in snow and ice.

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    Mike J says:

    Another Moore accuser? Quick, what are Clinton and Franken doing?

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    Jeffro says:

    I see the WaPo is ‘breaking’ the news that the ivory ban or the big-game ban that was to be lifted might stay after all due to ‘public outcry’? Must read further.

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    jl says:


    ” Some people are happy collecting stamps.”

    I can imagine the conversations when stuff popped up in emails to the staff: “Oh dob;t worry, he always takes breaks looking at bottom pics when he reviews the budget. He just the docs mixed up again.”

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    p.a. says:

    I have no issues with the coming matriarchy as every male politician seems to be a pubescent buffoon at best, molester/rapist at worst, but it would be nice if we got there in a more dignified manner. Any dignified manner. It’s assholes or propeller beanies all the way down.

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    JPL says:

    @Jeffro: I know ABC nightly news led with a story about Donald Jr. and his elephant tail. Pappa must have been so proud.

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    Baud says:

    “Wait. These aren’t the polling figures.”

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    Steeplejack says:


    Were they working on some important Florida state clitorial policy issue?

    He misunderstood an e-mail she sent him about littoral property rights legislation. Easy mistake to make.

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    @Mike J: something short of self immolation, let’s see what Tucker Carlson has to say.

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    CaseyL says:

    I used to think that guys who were *that* obsessed with genitals simply weren’t getting laid enough.

    Now I don’t know what to think. It doesn’t seem to matter whether they are, how often they are, or with how many people. They’re just… creepy.

    Nice to see Dems are serious about cleaning house, though.

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    @Gator90: Florida and Alabama on the Indian state of Rajasthan, they are trying to relitigate the 13th century, over a fucking movie. To get respite from the crazy here, I check news from India. Indian crazy is extra special.

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    No Drought No More says:

    For those male chauvinists* who have blatantly abused women in the work place, and who are still on the job and suddenly vulnerable, this sea change must be like an old Star Trek episode, where aliens have somehow taken control of peoples minds and marked them as prey.

    *(I’m old enough to recall the introduction of that phrase circa 1970, and how it was laughed down by most guys. Mature reflection in the intervening years has led me to finally concede it’s an pretty apt term).

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    SiubhanDuinne says:




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    Chip Daniels says:

    @Baud: “That’s no moon!”

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    jl says:

    Good new summary of effect of current version of the GOP tax slash scam. It focuses on what happens when the GOP loss leader con on personal income tax rate cuts, and what happens with they sunset. Looks like they are trying to help out their upper middle class to affluent supporters. Which means the poor to middle middle class get slammed even harder now.

    JCT Estimates: Amended Senate Tax Bill Skewed to Top, Hurts Many Low- and Middle-Income Americans
    NOVEMBER 17, 2017

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    Baud says:

    @jl: That’ll incentivize people to earn more.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    I think it derives from the Clitorii, who in Greek mythology were a tribe of fierce warrior women whose power derived from the fact that they were invisible to and could not be located by their enemies.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    @Jeffro: lyingest liar Dolt45 is taking credit for it saying he’s going to study it. Haha. Dolt45 will study it till Dimwit Donnie Jr whines about how he can’t bring back the caged elephant trophy he shot in Zimbabwe.

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    Steeplejack says:


    The dreaded “reply all” instead of “reply.”

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: For a dudebro, you sure do seem to know alot about matters of the littoral and clitoral persuasions…

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    Baud says:

    Richard Engel is covering Ivanka’s foray into Panama real estate. Amazing.

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    Feebog says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Why can’t it be both?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steeplejack: Male enemies.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Feebog: It could be both.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone: Probably owns a copy of 101 Clit Jokes.

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    Roger Moore says:



    He was trying to send a different picture? He accidentally sent to her instead of the intended recipient? I’ve gotten some unexpected emails- though nothing pornographic- through each of those routes.

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    jl says:

    @Baud: They still keep the pickings pretty slim until you hit $200K / year, and until $500 K / year after 2027. But at least on average, those folks don’t get less than the $75 to $300 K people now, on average.

    The GOP will ram right through the gates of hell (of hell I tell you!) to make sure justice is done.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I wish everybody in America would just buy Chris Matthews’s book on Bobby Kennedy and get it over with. His relentless self-promotion on every MSNBC show is verging on Bannonesque auto-fellation. Tonight he did a greatest-hits montage on his own show.

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    Trentrunner says:

    @Steeplejack: I’m 99% sure this is hilarious but I’m a gay dude so I can’t say with perfect certainty…

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    Trentrunner says:

    @Steeplejack: Matthews has been like Louis CK with all the METAPHORICAL masturbating without his viewers’ consent…

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    @Baud: Padmavati, which is slated for release on December 1. Its part history part fable based on 15 th century poem by the same name. Its about the siege of the Fort of Chittor in Rajasthan, by Allauddin Khilji of the Delhi Sultanate. Tiny Chittor was no match for the mighty Delhi Sultanate. Khilji repelled Mongol invasion of India by Ghengis Khan and ruled most northern India and what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    According to the poem the Khilji lusted after Padmini, the king’s beautiful wife. Padmini and many other royal women preferred self immolation (jauhar) to being spoils of the war.

    Trailer here

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    chopper says:

    what in the actual fuck, men?

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    Baud says:

    @p.a.: The Revolution will be cringe worthy.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @Chip Daniels:

    “That’s no moon!”

    Sure it is; just the wrong kind.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I see subtlety is lost on you.

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    chopper says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):

    I love BJ

    jesus, now even the women are being inappropriate. sheesh.

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    danielx says:


    Mickey Kaus has it covered.

    I haven’t been so embarrassed for my gender since I heard about Adele’s ex-bf suing her for some of the proceeds for the 21 album on the grounds that he was the inspiration for a great breakup recording.

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    jl says:

    @Steeplejack: ” Tonight he did a greatest-hits montage on his own show. ”

    I definitely do not want to see thousands of pics of Chris Matthews.

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    germy says:

    Right now I’m in the middle of reading Twain’s “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”. It’s a strange, brutal novel. Nothing like the various adaptations I’d seen through the years.

    The book pokes fun at contemporary society, but the main thrust is a satire of romanticized ideas of chivalry, and of the idealization of the Middle Ages common in the novels of Sir Walter Scott and other 19th century literature. Twain had a particular dislike for Scott, blaming his kind of romanticizing of battle for the southern states’ deciding to fight the American Civil War. He writes in Life on the Mississippi:

    It was Sir Walter that made every gentleman in the South a Major or a Colonel, or a General or a Judge, before the war; and it was he, also, that made these gentlemen value these bogus decorations. For it was he that created rank and caste down there, and also reverence for rank and caste, and pride and pleasure in them. […] Sir Walter had so large a hand in making Southern character, as it existed before the war, that he is in great measure responsible for the war.

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    Baud says:


    I read that as Fort of Clittor. This thread is getting to me….

    Thanks for the description. Is that the movie with that great dance number?

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    Ken says:



    Assuming it was accidental, it could have been a folder drag-and-drop into the email application window.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Adam can be very littoral sometimes.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    It’s things like this that really make me feel like there is some huge, yawning, chasm of difference between men and women.

    I’m with you, sister. I just don’t get the appeal of a body part separated from an actual person. I’ve never heard anyone say they dated someone because of how gorgeous his/her genitals were.

    And I think I’ll leave it there, because this is a family blog. Kind of.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Baud: She has real potential to pick up the banner (Bannon?) of 1%er-ism and faux-concern for social issues while picking everyone’s pockets when Trumpov swirls down the drain. America also has exceptional potential to fall for it.

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    ThresherK says:

    May0be he got it mixed up with the art class paintings.

    Hey, our move is finished! Wife and I are exhausted. Lots of stuff distorted, some more to go. Cats are used to the new place. We have no room to do much until things are organized and repmoved.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Bobby Kennedy, A Book by Chris Matthews: A Raging Hardon

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    Davebo says:

    @Mnemosyne: @Nicole:

    Trust me this isn’t representative of men in general (I Hope!).

    Hell, I’m a “small of the back” guy but I don’t have a collection of 100’s of pics of women’s backs.

    Ok. OK. I also like knees.

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    Corner Stone says:


    Richard Engel is covering Ivanka’s foray into Panama real estate. Amazing.

    More like burying Ivanka over her foray into Panama real estate.
    Unfortunately I am sure she will slime her way far, far away from all of this unpleasantness.

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    @Baud: No that was Bajirao Mastani released in 2015, by the same director. The guy dancing in that number, Ranveer Singh is playing Khilji and Rajputs are worried that the director may have portrayed him in a positive light.

    Here is a dance number from Padmavati..

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    Felonius Monk says:



    His dick kept hitting the send button?

    ETA: Is that a dick post?

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    jl says:

    @ThresherK: Have we arrived at the Georgia O’Keefe whataboutism stage already?

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Autocomplete screws people up all the time.

    It’s the fact that she was pretty much unfazed by it that tells it all. It reminds me of the story Julia Sweeney tells about cleaning out the desk of a retired co-worker, finding his stash of S&M pron, and THEN finding out that the whole office knew because he used to read it at his desk (!)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I know what goes where and why.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Sir Walter Scott is the original chronicler of the “Lost Cause.” It’s just that his romanticized Lost Cause was the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @rikyrah: As I wrote when they announced their engagement:

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

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    Felonius Monk says:

    Broadcasters will be allowed to combine with a newspaper in the same market, and could be allowed to own two of the top four stations in a city, as the FCC on Thursday relaxed a series of long-standing media ownership regulations.

    The new rules, passed in a 3-2 vote, may be challenged in court, but if they survive, they will mark the most significant changes to media ownership regulations in a generation. They could lead to further consolidation and mergers among broadcasters, who have long argued that they need greater scale to compete with cable and internet companies for local ad dollars.

    Read all about here.

    Looks like Fox and Sinclair will become our only sources of news.

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    Emma says:

    @schrodingers_cat: Holy God I have got to see that movie. If only for the visuals.

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    Timurid says:


    I got to visit the Chittor fort, and that was one eerie place. There were not one but three Jonestown style mass murder/suicides there after sieges (the one depicted in the movie was the first). I have not had the chance to see any of the death camps or other Holocaust sites, but Chittor is as haunted as place can be short of that.

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    Corner Stone says:

    Richard Engel just had his whole show blown up at just past the 30 minute mark. Almost as if that was where he wanted this all to go…

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: The people she was meeting and doing business with on her father’s company’s behalf were involved in human trafficking for the sex trade. This is not going to end well. Federal pardons won’t do anything about state level charges. Nor will they do anything about charges in other countries.

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    Timurid says:


    Their navy was also formidable.

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    debbie says:


    That is some gown! I wonder if it felt heavy?

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone: I stopped watching.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Felonius Monk: This will be tied up in the courts for years. Especially as Sinclair is not going to want to do discovery and will drag things out. All we need at this point is the litigation process to buy time until the FCC members can be changed and the ruling reversed.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Timurid: Should have gone with “insurmountable”.

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    Emma says:

    @Corner Stone: I feel deprived. What happened?

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I hope you are correct.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Corner Stone: I haven’t seen this one, but a week or two ago I watched a lengthy segment he did with Serhiy Leshchenko about Paul Fucking Manafort. This Engel guy is pretty good.

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    @Gin & Tonic: All right. We all are supposed to be working on being PC!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The people she was meeting and doing business with on her father’s company’s behalf were involved in human trafficking for the sex trade.

    Whoopsie! I guess that’s what happens when you go in search of sweatshop workers and have a little cultural misunderstanding…

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    I’m 13 minutes in. Should I stop reading to avoid spoilers?

    ETA: Rachel was saying last night there would be a big scoop!

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    Peale says:

    @jl: I guess maybe she was relieved it wasn’t an unsolicited dick pic? I mean, most gentlemen don’t try to attract a lady with pictures of other ladies. or do they? I’ve never given it much thought?

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    p.a. says:

    @Mnemosyne: Economically, it could be considered vertical integration.

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    martian says:

    Thank you so much for linking that! Man, I needed a bit of happy fluff. I hope those too will be blissfully happy. Serena looked stunning, and Alexis’ wedding vows to her were really touching.

    It’s funny that two people so incredibly successful and famous in their particular spheres could meet as strangers and get to know each other almost like normal people do. I wonder if that was part of the initial charm for them – he’s never really watched tennis, she didn’t even know what Reddit is. Seems like it’d be hard having everyone you meet feel like they already know about you in some way.

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    Steve in the ATL says:


    Have we arrived at the Georgia O’Keefe whataboutism stage already?

    This is quality posting

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    @Timurid: The last one was during Akbar’s siege right? I don’t know much about the second one, when did that happen.

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    efgoldman says:

    Hello jackals and jackallettes. I have broken a promise I made to the snarling pack a week ago when I came home from the hospital, to tell my overlong but sometimes amusing, sometimes boring, sometimes enraging story.
    Unfortunately, real life intervenes, along with scheduling visiting nurses, physical therapy, oh, andthis little thing called Thanksgiving and family.
    I’m sure I’m not the first, and won’t be the last, to post this obligatory video

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve seen reports that to this day the pool/cabana areas are basically full of prostitutes for hire.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mnemosyne: Also, this:

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Me too. I can’t stand another damn story about men behaving the way I guess men do.

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    p.a. says:

    @efgoldman: Must be horrible if Safari won’t even show it!

    ETA: welcome back. now fix the link.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Peale: Best twitter response I’ve seen on this yet:

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Oh, God, please don’t let Mueller turn out to be like these guys. Please, God.

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    efgoldman says:


    she remembers he accidentally (she thinks) sent her an email with “pictures of dozens, if not hundreds, of clitorises .

    Probably by pressing “enter”


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    Cain says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Man, I am just wore out. There’s been soooo much that happened again this week. But once again, no ^%#%UIOO^%$#@ INDICTMENT RELEASED BY MUELLER!!! I think he’s trying to kill me.

    noo.. I’m not ready for it yet.. I want it released around January during his State of the Union (if he even shows up to do it) I want it after the holiday season so that we can stew in his infamy.

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    Raven says:

    @efgoldman: Hey brother good to see yer mug!

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    Raven says:

    Dick’s Picks are great!

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    BBA says:

    @Cain: He’s going to run the SotU like a campaign rally, leading Congress in chanting “lock her up” and throwing MAGA hats into the crowd.

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    efgoldman says:


    Must be horrible if Safari won’t even show it!

    Plays fine in FF/Windows

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):

    I’m sitting here giggling and I say to my husband, “I can’t even tell you what I’m laughing about.”

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    BBA says:

    @zhena gogolia: I would not be surprised if #metoo ends up like Italy in the ’90s, with literally everyone in power, of all parties, being implicated and forced out.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The caption to that pic says the guy standing to (our) left of Ivanka is Don Jr. Is it just me, or does that look nothing like Don Jr?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @efgoldman: Maybe, but your link is broken.

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    Felonius Monk says:

    @efgoldman: hey, efg, good to hear from you. I’d like to watch your video but all I get is a blank page.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Doesn’t look like it’s him. It looks like the mayor of our little town. And it really might be him.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Cain: First time I read that I thought it said, “stew in his family”.
    And I was like, “Hmmm…Hmmmm…”

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    Raven says:

    @zhena gogolia: Here’s da mayor (or former} of Nort Providence!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: I’m past the 30 minute mark and I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Would you be so kind as to clarify?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Emma: I can’t say exactly. But it’s really just a mediocre show overall so don’t get too down about it if you missed it.

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    p.a. says:

    Really, now what can the fucking batting average be for dick pics? Did it actually work once, and now it’s urban legend that that’s the way to go? One guy, once, reputedly got laid, and now with digi cams and the internet thousands of guys are daily trying to be the second?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: How you doing? Did you give any thought to my suggestion about giving one of your people one of the front pagers contact info in case, Deity forbid, something similar happens again? A lot of folks were real worried and we had no way to reach out and check on you.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I’ll be happy to discuss after Steep gets off his self-induced DVR delay.

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    Corner Stone says:

    I ain’t doing business with any freaking body named Torsion.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steeplejack: Let us know when you’re back among the land of the live.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: That is a mislabel. That is definitely not Jr. I have no idea who it is.

    BTW, if anyone is interested, the guy they partnered with Khafif, pronounces his name covfefe (cofeef)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Corner Stone:

    Okay, okay, discuss away. I’m up to 51:00, so I think all of the shoes have dropped.

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    Doug R says:

    I dunno.
    Shouldn’t that be on say, Snapperchat?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Raven: Here’s some audio of him to go along with that.

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    jl says:

    @p.a.: No, the guy sent thousands of pics of dick’s lil’ sis.

    i read the story, and it didn’t really say what the ‘boob stuff’ was, or any of the other mysteries. I guess it was all so bizarre, they decided better to not try to explain anything.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Corner Stone: All the Ivana spawn need to go to jail, permanently. Just like their old man.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: Remember the NRA and National Prayer Breakfast penetration links I posted a while back? Same guy:

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    @Emma: Sanjay Leela Bhansali’s movies are visually arresting, the clothes and the jewelry, its a feast for the eyes.
    Albela Sajan from Bajirao Mastani

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    Raven says:

    @Gin & Tonic: And here he is addressing us Viet Nam Vets ! I thought it was hilarious! https://youtu.be/UDgam2GNmmc

    He had flat feet!

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    Steeplejack says:

    Somehow in all of the hoopla the last year I missed, or forgot, the thing about how the president can’t have a conflict of interest because he’s the president. WTF? Has that been shot down? Engel seemed to indicate that it’s at least still being debated.

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    p.a. says:

    @jl: I got that, I was just speaking generally, as dick pics as a proposition attempt have become a ‘thing’ thanks to technology.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    but your link is broken.

    Trying again, playing fine in FF/Win; also on Chrome

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    Ruckus says:

    I think it’s possible that Florida man moved to Los Angeles. Over the last few days I have gotten to fucking hate about 1/2 the people I see. Is it economic anxiety? Is it Florida man? Is it just that a lot of people are on edge? Try to do a nice thing like let someone in front of you and someone else always tries to take advantage and force their way in.
    I hate that I’m beginning to hate people just for breathing.
    What is it that I need to do to get over this?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steeplejack: He can’t under Federal law because it wasn’t written into the law. However, the Emolument Clause in the Constitution basically functions the same way. It covers both domestic and foreign emoluments. All the Citizen for Responsible Ethics in Washington (CREW) lawsuits regarding the President enriching himself and his business and his family through the presidency being quarterbacked by Richard Painter and Norm Eisen are rooted in the Emolument Clause

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The 8:33 PM CT timeframe where Engel interviews Arlo Devlin-Brown Public Corruption Unit Chief. Engel asks him about three times if Trump Org is on the hook if they license but get a piece of the action. The guy basically says, “If they don’t know then they don’t know.” And Engel gets a little flat footed for a couple seconds.
    It’s hard to tell a story about systemic corruption when the corruption chief you brought on says, “Meh”.

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    p.a. says:

    @efgoldman: “As god is my witness” the link works now.

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    John Revolta says:

    @germy: I just posted over at LGM yesterday that that picture of Mnuchin’s wife at the Mint reminded me of the Connecticut Yankee’s description of Morgan le Fay (no actual plot spoilers):

    Morgan was the main attraction, the conspicuous personality here; she was head chief of this household, that was plain. She caused us to be seated, and then she began, with all manner of pretty graces and graciousnesses, to ask me questions. Dear me, it was like a bird or a flute, or something, talking. I felt persuaded that this woman must have been misrepresented, lied about. She trilled along, and trilled along, and presently a handsome young page, clothed like the rainbow, and as easy and undulatory of movement as a wave, came with something on a golden salver, and, kneeling to present it to her, overdid his graces and lost his balance, and so fell lightly against her knee. She slipped a dirk into him in as matter-of-course a way as another person would have harpooned a rat!
    Poor child! he slumped to the floor, twisted his silken limbs in one great straining contortion of pain, and was dead. Out of the old king was wrung an involuntary “O-h!” of compassion. The look he got, made him cut it suddenly short and not put any more hyphens in it.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Did you give any thought to my suggestion about giving one of your people one of the front pagers contact info in case

    Actually, my daughter, some off her FB closed groups of TNC’s former Horde, and LG&M, there’s quite a Venn overlap – way more than I ever thought. I understand there was a lot of background buzz.
    Ms Costello also emailed ms efg directly. Not a front pager, but almost as directly.

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    Steeplejack says:


    The linked article says the “boob stuff” included Bittel’s “penchant for keeping breast-shaped stress-squeeze balls in his office—which Bittel said were gags.”

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    Emma says:

    @schrodingers_cat: The shot from above of the women carrying the platters is just stunning. And the opening sequence of the men passing through the city (or palace) gates. Wow.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @efgoldman: People missed your cantankerous ass.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Corner Stone: Well he is not wrong. That is the defense that would be utilized. The problem is it’s a hypothetical. We know that they’ve done this over and over and over in the US and overseas both in properties they’ve owned directly and in properties that they’re licensing their name too and just taking a cut. I have no doubt their defense will be “we didn’t know”. I also have no doubt that the prosecutor, whether Mueller at the Federal level or Scheiderman at the NY state level, would both not bring a charge related to this stuff unless they felt they could prove this defense was untrue and had the evidence to back it up. If this happened at one or two Trump Organization properties, directly owned or license arrangement, “we didn’t know” would be believable. But this happened at Trump Tower, Trump World Tower (Turtle Bay), Trump SoHo, the casinos in Atlantic City, the mansion sold to Ryobolev for twice its valuation, the Trump property in Miami Beach, the Trump property in Azerbaijan, the Trump property in Panama, etc, etc, etc. That amount of coincidence takes a lot of work.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Steeplejack: I’ve had a variety of squeeze balls in home and office since my injury, and can’t say as I’ve ever seen any breast-shaped ones. Maybe I’ve just been shopping in the wrong places.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: Okay. I had to ping Suibhan because people were asking me in the comments and I had no way to reach you or any of your people. If you’re comfortable with how you’ve got stuff set up, that’s fine with me. Just wanted to make sure you had an option if you wanted it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Raven: All I get is a yahoo search screen.

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    Ruckus says:

    I had to be the one to tell the CEO that one of my fellow employees was an absolute drunk, he came in late, left early and was seen at the closest bar at lunch time, when he hadn’t been to work by someone using the drive in teller at the bank in the mini mall lot. CEO had no clue. And the guys office was next door to the CEO’s.
    Everyone else in the building knew. Everyone, including the janitor.

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    Raven says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Huh, it works for me. I assume you know what Dicks Picks are?

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Moi Aussi

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Raven: yep

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    Raven says:

    @Adam L Silverman: my work here is done.

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Okay, thanks.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Steeplejack (phone): You’re welcome.

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    Peale says:

    @Adam L Silverman: as soon as we reckon with Bill Clinton…I mean, both sides…NAFTA, crime bills, hypocrisy…something something.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Gin & Tonic:
    He’s not cantankerous. He’s old. We get like that when we get old.

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    MomSense says:

    This can’t be real life.

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    MomSense says:


    Very happy to see you Ef to the G.

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    Mike J says:

    @MomSense: Is this just fantasy?
    Caught in a landslide
    No escape from reality

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    chopper says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Breakfast penetration links

    worst jimmy dean product line ever.

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    I’m seeing reports, including from the Blogfather, that Charles Manson has died, but all I can find in the news is that he is in a Bakersfield hospital, very near death.

    When I think back, that was a turning point, when sinister crept into what had seemed positive to many of us.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @chopper: Yep, but the BDSM crowd deserves to eat the breakfast of their choice, or, for the submissives, the breakfast they’re given.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    Great, just great:

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    Mike J says:

    Which glacier now contains the water that will drown you when sea levels rise?


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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Mike J: All of them Katie!

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    Doug R says:

    @Cheryl Rofer: LA Times two hours ago says Manson was still alive.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Mike J: Open your eyes
    Look up to the skies
    And seeeeeeeeeee!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Doug R: Fake news! Sad!

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    debbie says:

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Yes, he gave hippies a bad name.

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    danielx says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Can it be that our preznit is not considered to be a serious person?

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    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Yeah, that’s something you’d have to really seek out. Probably not on the shelf at Target or Dick’s Sporting Goods.

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    Mike J says:

    Hey m^4:

    Richard Kadrey‏ @Richard_Kadrey 8 hours ago
    This weekend is @borderlands_sf’s 20th anniversary, so they’re having a party on Saturday, November 18th, 10 am to 6 pm. Writers will be coming by all day to chat and sign your books. I’ll be around from 2-3pm. I hope to see you there.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @danielx: He is not. Unfortunately as long as he is president he has to be taken seriously.

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    lurker dean says:

    @Adam L Silverman: interesting about “covfefe” and “khafif,” the orange idiot isn’t exactly known as a good speller..

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    efgoldman says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    If you’re comfortable with how you’ve got stuff set up, that’s fine with me. Just wanted to make sure you had an option if you wanted it.

    Freakng amazing how many circles touch. For instance Duinne has an old friend from her radio days in the 60s, who worked at my station in the 70s and 80s. mrs efg babysat his youngest daughter and without knowing it, were at her weddding

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    catclub says:

    @Baud: I was going to ask where exactly that fort was hidden. AFAF

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @efgoldman: I’m a specialist in mining social network connections to facilitate both lethal targeting and non-lethal engagement. I would not be surprised at all.

    But I, like everyone else, am glad you’re doing better. I know all to well what dialysis can do to a person and what a hospital stay combined with dialysis can do to make it worse. I watched it too many times with my Dad.

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    TenguPhule says:

    Now this I can agree was offensive and deserving of resignation.

    Standards, let’s have some!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I see Turkey’s entry to the EU has now been moved to the first of never.

    How soon till we kick them out of NATO?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Definitely not kosher. Oh wait, wrong criminal scumbag.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud: I thought was the 2008 Republican Primary.

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    TenguPhule says:


    the Clitorii, who in Greek mythology were a tribe of fierce warrior women whose power derived from the fact that they were invisible to and could not be located by their enemies.

    Well played.

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    sukabi says:

    @Gin & Tonic: not just you. The guy has totally different facial structure and doesn’t look nearly as stupid as Jr manages to look.

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    Calming Influence says:

    @Major Major Major Major: binders full of.

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