Well Now That Is Interesting Isn’t It?


On Aug. 3 of last year, just as the US presidential election was entering its final, heated phase, the Russian foreign ministry sent nearly $30,000 to its embassy in Washington. The wire transfer, which came from a Kremlin-backed Russian bank, landed in one of the embassy’s Citibank accounts and contained a remarkable memo line: “to finance election campaign of 2016.”

That wire transfer is one of more than 60 now being scrutinized by the FBI and other federal agencies investigating Russian involvement in the US election. The transactions, which moved through Citibank accounts and totaled more than $380,000, each came from the Russian foreign ministry and most contained a memo line referencing the financing of the 2016 election.

The money wound up at Russian embassies in almost 60 countries from Afghanistan to Nigeria between Aug. 3 and Sept. 20, 2016. It is not clear how the funds were used. At least one transaction that came into the US originated with VTB Bank, a financial institution that is majority-owned by the Kremlin.

I’ll let the smarts figure this all out but if any of that money got into the hands of people associated with the Trump campaign we get real close to the dreaded “c” word, and I don’t mean cuck.

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    Baud says:

    Someone in an earlier thread suggested that this might be for the Russian elections in 2016, to help with expat voting. But I think that was based on the notion that Putin wouldn’t be stupid enough to write that memo line on his wire transfers.

    ETA: Don, Jr., on the other hand….

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    rikyrah says:

    Uh huh
    Uh huh 😒😒😒

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    different-church-lady says:

    The FYNYT asks a stupid question:

    Why Don’t Sanders Supporters Care About the Russia Investigation?

    Because it fucks up their narrative that HILLARY WAS THE WORST CANDIDATE THAT EVER CANDIDATED!!1! SATSQ.

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    TenguPhule says:

    I’ll let the smarts figure this all out but if any of that money got into the hands of people associated with the Trump campaign we get real close to the dreaded “c” word

    If conspiracy against the United States is a crime, who among the Republicans is not guilty of it?

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    Corner Stone says:

    but if any of that money got into the hands of people associated with the Trump campaign we get real close to the dreaded “c” word, and I don’t mean cuck

    “Cocteau” ?

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    Planetpundit says:

    More like the “T” word and I don’t mean “talented”.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @different-church-lady: You sound shrill. //

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    Baud says:

    @different-church-lady: What was the garbage paper’s answer to that question?

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    Corner Stone says:

    I am not sure what to make of this as it is so widespread. The total amount of money is relatively small, but with these cheap, garbage-ass bumblefucks there’s just no telling.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Baud: I didn’t want to give them the click. It’s on the front page now if you’ve got the stomach — I don’t.

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    Corner Stone says:


    More like the “T” word and I don’t mean “talented”.

    “Triskaidekaphobia” ?

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    Yarrow says:

    Washington Post questions the Buzzfeed article. Could be classic Russian deza.

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    Roger Moore says:


    Because it fucks up their narrative that HILLARY WAS THE WORST CANDIDATE THAT EVER CANDIDATED!!1! SATSQ.

    Also, too, they don’t want to see the connection between Russia and Tad Devine, because that might spoil their belief that Saint Bernie is the cleanest guy in the history of politics.

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    Baud says:

    @Corner Stone: Two away from being an awesome comment.

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    danielx says:


    And she’s in excellent company, although it’s more or less a dead blog at the moment.


    The Offical Blog of the Ancient and Hermetic Order of the Shrill

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    Baud says:

    @different-church-lady: Nope.

    @Roger Moore: Russian interference is the only rigging of the primary I’m interested in.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Baud: Time waits for no asshole commenter.

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    @Yarrow: I just clicked that link, what is wrong with Putin’s face? It looks weird.

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    Yarrow says:

    @different-church-lady: @Roger Moore: Speaking of the Senator from VT, this tweet from Evan McMullin caught my eye:

    Wikileaks urged Trump to declare our election “rigged,” which he and Bernie, both supported by the Kremlin, did. Now some well-meaning Americans use the same word. We shouldn’t. Despite our real challenges, our democracy is still among the strongest in the world.— Evan McMullin (@Evan_McMullin) November 14, 2017

    That’s a pretty definitive statement about St. Bernard.

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    danielx says:


    One of my personal fave posts, by someone near and dear to our hearts:

    Miskatonic University Bulletin: Fall 2009

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Don’t forget, the Russians have been feeding them propaganda for almost two years now. They actually think that a channel called “Russia Today” is giving them an unbiased look at American politics.

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    geg6 says:


    Whoa. That’s some quality shade throwing by the ex-CIA guy.

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    different-church-lady says:

    @Yarrow: We’re sure they’re well-meaning?

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    Yarrow says:

    @schrodingers_cat: He’s making a classic Trump face.

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    Mnemosyne says:



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    Baud says:

    @different-church-lady: Are we sure they’re Americans?

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    Jeffro says:

    @Yarrow: again, I’m still shocked that eighty different versions of Trumpov’s taxes haven’t dropped…then again, just like the release of Hillz’ emails when the Access Hollywood tape dropped, maybe they’re just waiting for when his tax returns really do come out…

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Yarrow: He also has a butthole mouth?

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    Yarrow says:

    @geg6: It sure is. That’s why it caught my eye. First really definitive statement like that about him from someone who is in a position to know that I’ve seen.

    @different-church-lady: No. But he doesn’t want to insult people and have them end up not hearing what he’s saying.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Jeffro: I have long wanted to see Trump’s taxes. But not like that anymore. Now there is only one person I want to produce them as evidence. Our good friend Herr Mueller.
    [horse blows in the background]

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    Another Scott says:

    Least surprising thing, ever, IMHO. Of course there was poorly hidden Russian money sloshing around and reaching the GOP.

    In other news, Reuters: Coup apparently underway against Mugabe in Zimbabwe


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    Baud says:

    @Yarrow: He says what we only whisper in quiet rooms.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Mnemosyne: That’s the one!

    @Jeffro: The Trump tax returns that Mueller’s team has will be the definitive ones. Russia can muddy the waters but Mueller has the goods.

    @Corner Stone: Looks like it.

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    Central Planning says:

    @Corner Stone: Too bad that comment wasn’t two more down.

    ETA – Ninja’d by Baud. And also, to, for the to/too/two trifecta.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Baud: You may whisper in quiet rooms. I’ve been saying out loud for months. There’s far too much smoke there for there not to be some kind of fire. I was a bit shocked to see McMullin say it so definitively, though. I don’t know if that comment has really gone viral yet.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Corner Stone: @Yarrow: great points re: Mueller producing the real returns


    Wheels within wheels…

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Baud: It wasn’t me, but this is the most plausible explanation. Elections for the Duma were held in 2016 and these distributions, provided they occurred before or just after that election, would make sense as providing necessary funding to allow the various Russian embassies and consulates to undertake facilitating voting for Russian nationals living abroad.

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    Baud says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The WaPo article linked to above says the same thing.

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    Jeffro says:

    I have a feeling Rachel Maddow is about to drop the hammer on some major disinformation

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: @geg6: Remember who McMullin fronts for.

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    NotMax says:

    “to finance election campaign of 2016.”

    Typo. Funds disbursed as morale builder to supply Russian nationals assigned overseas with the blue pill, “erection campaign.”

    /RWNJ-Dolt 45-FOX bubble

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    Baud says:

    @Yarrow: It’ll be ignored. People would rather indulge in fake theories about how evil Hillary stole the nomination.

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    Baud says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Who does he front for?

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    quakerinabasement says:

    That’s not very much money. What, exactly, would $30K finance?

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    Baud says:


    1370 $27 donations

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Baud: No one ever cites me as a source…

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    Another Scott says:

    @Adam L Silverman: You’re no fun.



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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Baud: Who did he used to work for? And just so we’re clear: I have no issues or problems with who he used to work for.

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    NotMax says:

    @Adam L. Silverman

    May I quote you on that?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Another Scott: Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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    Baud says:

    @Adam L Silverman: How does that relate to his tweet? Do you think he has inside information about Russian interference?

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @NotMax: Sure, there’s a first time for everything.

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    Spanky says:

    @Corner Stone:

    [horse blows in the background]

    Worst stage direction ever.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: He used to work for the CIA. I guess that’s what you mean by “front for.” Or do you mean something else?

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Adam L Silverman: “Who…does…Number Two..work for?!?”

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Spanky: It’s from a coming of age story set in Alabama in the 1970’s.

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    Vodka never tells, but international wire transfers sing like canaries.

    Just follow the money. It lacks opposable thumbs, and doesn’t spend itself.

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    chris says:

    But as the investigation led by Robert Mueller closes in on more Trump associates like Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn, it seems clear that the Russia story is only going to get bigger. Rather than downplay or deny it, the left should embrace it. Mr. Trump’s Russia ties illustrate the dangers of inequality and elite corruption — and point to the need for radical solutions.

    From the NYT so no link.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman: does it rhyme with Steep Date?

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    Vodka never tells, but international wire transfers sing like canaries.

    Just follow the money. It lacks opposable thumbs, and doesn’t spend itself.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Baud: I don’t know. I’ve known for months that the Sanders campaign itself and Sanders voters were targeted by the Russian active measures campaign. I don’t think that’s a novel conclusion to draw or a particularly hard one to draw either from the open source reporting. It is also important to understand that McMullin was ops, not analytic service. He went out and recruited and managed other assets and/or did clandestine paramilitary operations for a decade. And while there is far more fusion at his former employer since 9-11 of analytics and operations, they are two very different tracks. And I can say as someone who has done both ops and analytic work for the Army and DOD they usually draw from two very different groups of people with very different skillsets. There are very few of us that do both, prefer to do both usually as a hybrid type of work, and to be honest everyone else is never sure what to make of those of us that do.

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    Baud says:


    Rather than downplay or deny it, the left should embrace it.

    Unless they, you know, participated in it, in which case… awkward.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: I can neither confirm nor deny…//

    My impression has always been that McMullin is a catspaw.

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    Baud says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    everyone else is never sure what to make of those of us that do.

    Stick them on a near-top 10000 blog and forget about them?

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    Ken says:

    @Spanky: I’m rather fond of “Exit, pursued by a bear”.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Jeffro: The US doesn’t actually have one of those. No matter how loudly Bannon and Breitbart and Sean Hannity and Dim Jim and the other usual suspects scream and yell about it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Baud: Pretty much. Consulting sucks. And the sequester needs to be nuked from orbit.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    This is going to get very, very ugly:

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Who’s using him?

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    chris says:

    @Baud: Agreed. But for the rank and file hard-ass leftists the guy makes some good points. Too bad it’s in the FTNYT Opinion section where they won’t read it.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: I think his funding most likely comes from wealthy members of the Church of Latter Day Saints. I think he’s a catspaw for the IC.

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    Another Scott says:

    @Adam L Silverman: GovExec – Ryan has a plan…:

    Congress is likely to pass another stopgap spending bill to keep agencies open through the remainder of 2017, according to House Republican leadership.

    Lawmakers are considering extending the continuing resolution past its current expiration date of Dec. 8, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said on Tuesday. The move will likely prove necessary to give congressional appropriators more time to finish drafting their bills and conducting bicameral negotiations.

    “That’s basically what we’re considering,” Ryan said when asked if Congress planned to pass a CR through 2017. “We’re not talking about going into next year.”


    Lawmakers still face major hurdles in negotiating a full-year spending measure. President Trump recently repeated his demand for Congress to fund initial payments for his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, which Democrats have vowed to vote against. Republicans have pushed for increased defense spending while cutting appropriations for non-defense agencies, which would require a vote to change the current 2011 Budget Control Act caps. Democrats have said any budget deal to bump spending levels must affect defense and non-defense agencies equally. Other policy matters, such as the status of some undocumented immigrants and cost-sharing reduction payments to health insurance providers, could also complicate efforts to pass spending bills.

    Should lawmakers decide to extend the stopgap spending measure into 2018 despite Ryan’s comments to the contrary, this could lead to complications. A September Congressional Budget Office report found that continuing the same spending levels for the full fiscal year would likely force the Office of Management and Budget to revoke some of the funds that Congress had appropriated. About $2.4 billion would be sequestered from defense accounts, while about $2.3 billion would be sequestered from non-defense accounts, CBO estimated. OMB would make the final determination on the amounts of any sequestration.

    An OMB official said there is no risk of the administration revoking any funds in 2017. The office typically assesses whether a sequestration is necessary in January. If a CR is still in place at that point, the official said, the administration would work with Congress to ensure that “no unintended sequestration occurs.”

    OMB and the White House did not immediately respond to inquiries into whether Trump would sign such a measure.

    tl;dr – The present CR expires December 8. Ryan can’t pass a budget with GOP votes and doesn’t want to compromise with the Democrats. But if a CR extends into 2018 then OMB will have to sequester money from the DoD and everything else.




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    @chris: Found this to be more compelling, even if it is a bit of a rehash.

    As a rising generation of leftists increasingly asserts itself within the Democratic Party — and may, eventually, have the opportunity to shape foreign policy — it must articulate a new approach to Russia consistent with its core values. This approach should be driven neither by the interests of the national security state nor by the energy sector. Instead, it should aim to block Russia’s kleptocratic elite from safeguarding its assets in the United States, to clean up the influence of foreign lobbying on Washington and to shut down tax havens for billionaires everywhere. The investigation into the Trump campaign’s Russia ties provides an opportunity to focus on these issues.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    My guess is the mix is about 50/50 D & R. The Rs will get re-elected & the Ds shamed into retirement

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    eemom says:


    Why Don’t Sanders Supporters Care About the Russia Investigation?

    A high school classmate of my former acquaintance (yes dearie, on FB) is one of the worst Bernie dead enders you could ever have the misfortune of encountering. A woman, mind you, and an M.D., her 24/7 Hillary-hate-spew in 2016 was unrivaled by the most misogynistic of Bros.

    Naturally she also adored Assange, and was not only an unabashed apologist for the rape allegations in Sweden, she actually e-mail me to gloat when the charges were dropped.

    She also professes to be TOTALLY against Dump.

    So you can imagine how sweet it was yesterday when the report of Assange sucking up to and aggressively seeking favors from Little Dump came out. Nor was I above returning the gloat-mail. 😋

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    Regnad Kcin says:

    @Ken: Exeunt FTW

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    Corner Stone says:


    I have a feeling Rachel Maddow is about to drop the hammer on some major disinformation

    Did she ever actually go anywhere with that opening block? Fascinating details on the IBM Selectric.

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    different-church-lady says:


    (yes dearie, on FB)

    I shall respectfully decline my opportunity. ;-)

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    Spanky says:

    @Ken: That, in fact, is my all-time favorite.

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    D58826 says:

    @Jeffro: yep she is.

    U.S. Hires Company With K.G.B. Link to Guard Moscow Embassy
    By ANDREW HIGGINSNOV. 14, 2017
    MOSCOW — When President Vladimir V. Putin in July ordered American diplomatic missions in Russia to slash their staff by 755 employees, the State Department said it would need time to assess the “impact of such a limitation and how we will respond to it.”

    Part of that response has now become clear: To make up for the loss of security guards axed in the Russian-mandated staff cuts, Washington has hired a private Russian company that grew out of a security business co-founded by Mr. Putin’s former K.G.B. boss, an 82-year-old veteran spy who spent 25 years planting agents in Western security services and hunting down their operatives.

    Under a $2.8 million no-bid contract awarded by the Office of Acquisitions in Washington, security guards at the American Embassy in Moscow and at consulates in St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg and Vladivostok will be provided by Elite Security Holdings, a company closely linked to the former top K.G.B. figure, Viktor G. Budanov, a retired general who rose through the ranks to become head of Soviet counterintelligence.

    A State Department official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity in accordance with the department’s rules, said that Elite Security and individuals associated with it had been “vetted” with “relevant national and local agencies” and would not increase the threat risk.

    “U.S. missions around the world work constantly under intelligence and physical security threats,” the official said. “This contract does not change that fact.”

    I really feel sorry for the folks at the Onion or SNL. There is no way they can make any of this stuff up.


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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m trying to get “IC” to rhyme with “Steep Date” and I just can’t make it work…

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Yes, definitely LDS funds him. My impression is he’s not really “former” CIA.

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    chris says:

    @brucefromohio: Indeed. I like the Guardian piece better but he needed to fit the NYT template and add some new stuff since the original was written.

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    mike in dc says:

    As far as I can tell, “evidence” in the mind of Republican/righties = Trump on tape or someone flipping on him and fingering him for involvement. In the latter case there will be holdouts who think the informants only flipped to stay out of jail, and are just making it up. There will be another faction who accept the evidence and respond with “yeah, so what? We got rid of Hillary so it’s all good.” The quid pro quo will be glossed over in their minds.

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    Honus says:

    @different-church-lady: also, Bernie is implicated. Putin hates Hillary so much he helped Bernie too.

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    Jeffro says:

    @D58826: Oh ok…can’t wait to see what my RWNJ friends and relatives think about KGB associates guarding the US Embassy…

    …or Tillerson not staffing/actively gutting the State Department (closing down the department in charge of sanctions, I hear)…

    …or Trumpov’s latest, that it’s time to move on to a “time of healing” between us and Russia…

    …and on…

    …and on…

    On the one hand, I’m glad we can see HYDRA trying to take over S.H.I.E.L.D. in real time. On the other hand, it’s depressing to see HYDRA trying to take over S.H.I.E.L.D. in real time, mostly with the assistance of a significant portion of S.H.I.E.L.D.

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    Jeffro says:

    @Honus: Don’t leave Jill out of this!

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Another Scott: I’ve written about all these possibilities how many times here?

    More seriously, they could pass a waiver of the Budget Control Act dba The Sequester. They’ve done it in the past, but it doesn’t actually matter if they do. Every agency and department for hiring purposes acts like the sequester is in place, even when its been waived. And they especially do for contract positions. This has forced incredible compression and made it difficult for more senior folks like me to get positions. For instance, I came across an expert level position advertised that I was a great fit for about two months ago. It required a high school diploma. For an expert level position. Five years ago this would have required a masters degree with a preference for a PhD and paid between GS 13 and GS 15 wages. Now it pays GS 9 wages. I didn’t even bother.

    I’ve had at least four job opportunities disappear because of the sequester since 2014.

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    cmorenc says:

    Only 30K?

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    Spanky says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I had a job disappear because of the 2014 sequester, and I’m still getting paid 75% what I was for taking a more junior role. But at least it’s a job.

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    Gin & Tonic says:


    Worst stage direction ever.

    [blows horse in the background] would be worse.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Schlemazel: I’m not sure how it will play out. I expect there will also be a generational break on the Democratic side. As in the older, longest serving Democrats will be more likely to have done this. While the younger make Democratic members of both chambers, as in 40s and younger, are less likely to have done this. On the GOP side there will still be a split, but it won’t be as pronounced. I also expect that there will be outings on the GOP side as a result of this.

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    @Adam L Silverman: yeah that seems like by far the most likely explanation to me too.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Yarrow: He is. As in he no longer works for them.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Good thing you’re making the fat stacks posting shit here.

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    Schlemazel says:

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I had not thought of gays being outed. I am against that with one glaring exception, if the official is on record with anti-gay comments or support of bullshit like ‘traditional marriage’ bills then I think they really have it coming. Its hypocritical of me I know but we can’t all be pure saints all the time.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @Adam L Silverman: The interesting thing about the “deep state” meme is that those who scream about it the most are the ones who are the most obviously manipulated by the Russian deep state.

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    Eh, it’s all a feint, anyway. Look how much diversion you get for such a small investment!
    Nevertheless, follow that money.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Spanky: I feel your pain. I really do. And I’m sorry you’ve had to go through that.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Gin & Tonic: I do this for free.

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    jl says:

    ” Trumpov’s latest, that it’s time to move on to a “time of healing” between us and Russia…”

    One would think that a great mind, a world historical genius and super genius negotiator like Trump would figure out a way to conduct necessary business with Putin, and also let him know that the US investigation into 2016 election meddling had to continue and go where it would go. Maybe I just don’t understand Trump’s devious maneuvers. They look like clueless bumbling and ass kissing. And obstruction of justice and failing to protect and preserve the Constitution. But maybe that is just me.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Schlemazel: I don’t disagree with you. But there is no way that this is going to be limited to male members of the House and Senate and male members of their staff sexually harassing and/or assaulting only female members of the House and Senate and female members of their staffs. And the odds of male GOP representatives and senators and members of their staffs being closeted is much more likely than on the Democratic side these days. And that’s not even counting unacceptable behavior, either heterosexual or homosexual, in regard to the Congressional pages a la Mark Foley.

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    SgrAstar says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Who does McMullin front for?

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    jl says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Too bad it will get ugly. But Congress asked for it. There is also the little known and disgraceful Congressional protocol for handling complaints, which is about as friendly to those who come forward as the AL GOP.

    And I think part of the Congressional harassment training is BS on how interns and staff can avoid being provocative. Which is total BS, unless the young boys and girls are allowed to come to work wearing wet T-shirts and nothing else. But I think they have a stricter dress code than that. No open-toed shoes for the ladies. Not dignified.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman: A likely story.

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    Villago Delenda Est says:

    @jl: It’s clueless bumbling, and Donald loves some authoritarian strong men very much. He’s a very weak person, actually, and Vlad, Xi, and even Duerte have his number.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @SgrAstar: My impression is that he’s the IC’s catspaw.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @jl: It is what it is. And what it is is going to be ugly.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: You can put me under oath and that would still be my answer.

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    Yarrow says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I know he is. I have the impression he still has contacts there so he’s not completely out of the loop.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Baud: Whoa.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Always stick to your story. Well done.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I was never here…

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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Oh, absolutely not!

    In the meantime, good on him for speaking out and representing a…ahem…certain point of view. Hopefully that ‘point of view’ is doing everything it can on the CI angle and/or supplying Bobby Three Sticks with more info than he knows what to do with.

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    @Adam L Silverman:
    I think there will be lots of inappropriate messing about on both sides. People with wealth and power use that to get sex. They always have. I expect the varieties that involve forcing clearly unwanted attention will be weighted heavily on the Republican side. Heaven knows we aren’t all angels, but there is a huge philosophical gap on the issue of consent, and that will be reflected in behavior.

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Remember who McMullin fronts for.


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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Frankensteinbeck: “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.” -H. Kissinger.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Jeffro: Word on the street is that Captain America works for Hydra (in the comix)

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    manyakitty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: Is he a volunteer now?

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Adam L Silverman: W.T.F.??

    Congress has a fucking FUND to pay for “settlement of sexual harrassment lawsuits”??

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    Jeffro says:

    @manyakitty: That’s true, or was for a little while at least. Word is, it didn’t go over so well with the fanboyz…

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    sukabi says:

    @Mnemosyne: pretty sure that’s the same face I’ve been making since my thyroid surgery…I honestly don’t know how anyone could become addicted to oxy or hydro condone… The phrase “shitting a brick” ain’t wrong.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @manyakitty: You can’t do volunteer work for the Intel Community.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Miss Bianca: Apparently. Who knew?

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    manyakitty says:

    @Jeffro: I found it unsettling, and I only know the movies.

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    manyakitty says:

    @Adam L Silverman: So, not retired, then?

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    Miss Bianca says:

    @Adam L Silverman: I wonder how that line item gets labelled. And how the funds are appropriated. I mean, what committee gets to be in charge of fucking sexual harrassment lawsuits??

    Aw, Jaysus. I can’t even.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @manyakitty: He did 10 years then left the agency. He then went to work as the director of policy for the GOP caucus in the House of Representatives. He isn’t retired because he didn’t work at the agency long enough to retire from it. Even an early retirement. He no longer works for them and he no longer works for the GOP House caucus. And he isn’t doing volunteer work for the intel community.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He did 10 years then left the agency.


    @Miss Bianca:

    I mean, what committee gets to be in charge of fucking sexual harrassment lawsuits??

    Either Ethics or House Administration.

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @Miss Bianca: There are two committees with “affairs” in their titles.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Miss Bianca:
    Strictly speaking, they don’t fuck the lawsuits; they fuck (over) the plaintiffs.

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    eemom says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    “Are you here for an affair, sir?”

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    Jeffro says:

    @manyakitty: not in a meaningful sense…

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    Jeffro says:

    @Adam L Silverman: …that last line is key there…

    Just glad to have him out there saying things, although it’s just comments, just sort of general disapproval. Nothing that will actually do much. Other than making it look like that’s all the IC is doing, just tut-tutting and tsk-tsking

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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @eemom: I’m really flattered, but I seriously doubt I’m your type. In fact I’m pretty sure I’m no one’s type.

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    eemom says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Worse yet, I guess I’m too old to be Mrs. R. 😢

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    Another Scott says:

    @Miss Bianca: It’s the Office of Compliance according to TheHill:

    “We do know that there’s about $15 million that has been paid out by the House on behalf of harassers in the last 10 to 15 years,” she added.

    Speier’s comments come amid increased reports of sexual harassment in the workplace, including on Capitol Hill. Multiple female members of Congress have come forward saying they have been victims of sexual harassment, prompting lawmakers to call for reform.

    The Office of Compliance (OOC) is responsible for handling sexual harassment complaints and settlements. Once a settlement is reached, the money does not come from individual members’ offices but is instead paid out of a special fund operated by the Treasury Department.

    Sources in the office told CNN that while the OOC does compile a report on the number of awards and settlements paid out of the fund each year, it is not broken down by settlement type – meaning sexual harassment settlements are lumped in with other workplace cases like back pay and compensatory damages for monetary reporting.

    A congressional aide told CNN that the Treasury has paid out $15 million in total settlements since 1997, but it was unclear how much of that money had been paid in sexual harassment cases.

    Speier’s office didn’t immediately return a request to clarify whether the $15 million figure she cited for sexual harassment cases included money spent regarding general workplace violations.




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    J R in WV says:

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Dude, we all know that all of you work for peanuts and kibble – aka for free. For the entertainment of the Jackal Pack!! And we are grateful for your educational posting!



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    Adam L Silverman says:

    @J R in WV: You’re welcome. I print out comments like these and mail them every month to the company that services my student loans. In lieu of actual payment.//

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