Bleeding Hearts, Unite!

This bleeding heart vine has taken over our backyard bar to the extent that we almost need a machete to come and go:

I hope everyone is having a pleasant evening, bleeding hearts notwithstanding. Open thread!

124 replies
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    Barbara says:

    I think we have a much smaller plant that is not a vine that is also called bleeding heart. It’s one of the few reliable flowering shade plants.

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    Baud says:

    I hope your evening is a pleasant one as well, Betty.

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    Trentrunner says:

    More evidence being racist-lite will not win Dems the rural white racist vote.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    So no Friday indictment dump from Meuller? He’s gone home and put on his cardigan and slippers for the weekend?

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    My plane to Tampa is an hour late and counting…hey, they’re finally ready to board!

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    Baud says:

    Let’s agree not to ruin Betty’s nice thread.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Baud: Let’s agree not to ruin Betty’s nice thread.

    good idea

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    Baud says:

    @low-tech cyclist: Have a good flight.

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    Baud says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: He deserves a weekend to unwind.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud: Why must I be the only one who suffers?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Cross-posted from downstairs:


    I emailed efg a couple of times during the past week or so — since a few days after he went into hospital. Have not heard back, but unearthed home phone # just now and left voicemail message for him and mrs efg, both of whom I’ve met a couple of times IRL. Left detailed message, the gist of which was how much he is loved and missed by the jackals. Obviously I will report back if and when I get a return call. Just wanted to update y’all.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Are those flowers the same thing the Brits call “Love Lies Bleeding”?

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule: I’m sure that there are places on the internet where you can find adequate suffering.

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    Let’s agree not to ruin Betty’s nice thread.

    Hear hear!

    I’ve written 771 words on my novel today, and three bullet points for work (which took an hour, don’t judge me, I had to compile python into management-speak). How is everybody else? Any weekend plans? I am going to sleep.

    @Baud: For example, he could beta-read my novel.

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    HAL says:

    @Trentrunner: Why are people already shitting themselves over VA? Northam is polling ahead of Gillespie. Can’t people wait until Tuesday before we decide everything sucks?

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    chopper says:


    that’s a variety of amaranth.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I just hope he knows how many of us are pulling for him. I want him to know that.

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    Baud says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Bullet points are hard, man. Congratulations!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Thank you. Did not know.


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    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: We could use his fuckems right about now.

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    Let’s agree not to ruin Betty’s nice thread.

    You’ve been here long enough to know it’s not gonna happen.

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    hedgehog mobile says:

    Going to see Thor: Ragnarok tonight. (Pictures Thor loaning Mjolnir to Mueller.)

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    trollhattan says:

    But, Betty might think we don’t like her!

    “Wilmer, Wilmer, Wilmer!” [exits, stage left]

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    @Roger Moore: What would we be if we didn’t even try?

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    Baud says:

    @Roger Moore: Yeah, I might end up just watching some TV tonight.

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    gene108 says:

    Evening’s good. Dialysis tech stuck me clean the first time.

    I found free cookies.

    Going to NYC tomorrow to visit brother and family.

    And I want to switch jobs. I will need to brush up on skills. I really am lazy about studying stuff at home these days, but the change will be good in the long run.

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    beth says:

    Just watched ABC news report about the DNC. They reported on Trump’s tweet about Elizabeth Warren’s statement saying that “he called her a name” in his tweet. Fuck that – he called her Pocahontas! The President of the United States used a RACIAL SLUR to describe a US Senator and they gloss it over as mere name calling. I really can’t take much more of this shit.

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    NotMax says:

    Rock on, Jimi.

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    Baud says:

    @trollhattan: Betty does deserve a T-Bogg unit. She’s that good.

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    @Major Major Major Major:

    I had to compile python into management-speak

    Write a compiler, and the world will beat a path to your door.

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    trollhattan says:

    @hedgehog mobile:

    (Pictures Thor loaning Mjolnir to Mueller.)

    Am objectively pro-this.

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    Baud says:

    @Major Major Major Major: We would be animals. Nothing more than animals.

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    trollhattan says:

    Especially when she’s on an art kick. Who doesn’t lurve a Baghdad Bob-Possum Queen mashup?

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    gene108 says:


    Most of the media never took Trump seriously, even when polling running up to Iowa and New Hampshre showed him to be the leader of the pack. And he then started winning contests, they still didn’t take seriously.

    And now that he is President, they still do not take him seriously.

    They think he won’t do what he says he wants to do.

    They so badly want a normal President, they overlook his total assault on all our political norms and the norms of his office.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    We’re good at “Fuck LBJ” in raven’s absence. Pretty sure we can manage as many “Fuckem”s as necessary on efg’s account.

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    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Where is raven?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Baud: Fuckem.

    Did I do that right?

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    lamh36 says:

    I saw Thor:Ragnorak last night.
    It was really good. I give it a def A. Best of the Thor films hands down!! Def in my top 10 films of the MCU!

    Hela!!!! Hela good! My crush on Mark Ruffulo continues. Chris Hemsworth has risen up my list of “hot actors named Chris” (hasn’t quite edged out Chris Evans just yet, cause I love me some Cap on/off screen, he’s HAWT and his political…def Dem!). Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie!!! Get her back for some more action. And finally Jeff Goldblum!! I mean what geek girls heart isn’t already head over heels for Goldblum!!! He was awesome!!! Oh and Tom Hiddleston is still perfect as Loki

    Next up is Justice League, but I can almost guarantee u it won’t be as “fun” as Thor…but i want it to at least be as good as Wonder Woman, but we’ll see. i’m in it all for Wonder Woman, Aquaman (Jason Mamoa😍😍😍) and that Flash kid (Ezra Miller seems really cool)

    ETA: Oh FYI…director Taika Waititi is a hottie!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I think he’s mostly active in the early-morning hours. But I don’t really know. It’s not my day to watch him.

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    Can’t people wait until Tuesday before we decide everything sucks?

    We’re Democrats; we can’t wait for disaster to strike before complaining about it.

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    Baud says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Needs more curmudgeonosity.

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    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Oh, I thought you meant he was off somewhere for an extended period. Yes, he’s active in the morning but also at night.

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    Baud says:

    @Roger Moore:

    We’re Democrats; we can’t wait for disaster to strike before complaining about self-inflicting it.


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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I went to see “Goodbye Christopher Robin” yesterday. Hate me all you want, haters, but I loved it — despite an egregious howler of an anachronism midway through. But the film was nicely produced, the acting was fine, and the kid who played young CRM was fucking adorable.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I have not…

    Ah…Jeff Goldblum…NEVER change…you weirdly hot bastard…LOL

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    I think he usually lets us know when he’s going to go walkabout.

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    lamh36 says:

    WME agent Adam Venit on leave after being identified as subject of Terry Crews’ sexual harassment allegations

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Is someone here his parole officer?

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    Emma says:

    On the island of Iona there are whole hedges of bleeding hearts shrubs. There are bleeding hearts in Princes Street gardens in Edinburgh. Can you tell I’m craving Scotland tonight?

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Emma: I bought a bottle of Scotch on the way home from work tonight. Does that help?

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    Josie says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you for contacting efg and reporting. I have been missing him and wondering how he was doing. I don’t comment much, but I miss his input.

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    amygdala says:

    Some good news… Rosa Marie, the 10-year old girl with cerebral palsy detained by the feds after surgery, has been freed. Thanks, ACLU.

    (edited to fix a punctuation error)

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah, probably, but not me!

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    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I bought a bottle of Scotch on the way home from work tonight. Does that help?

    It will help you, but it’s hard to see how it helps Emma.

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    Eric S. says:

    I just had a coupe of adult beverages with a coworker. We both agreed we are mentally taxed by our current position but also enjoying it.

    Softball tomorrow barring rain.

    Also the world, or the 3 places I’ve looked, are out of Ozzie the Cat’s canned food. Amazon is saying 4 weeks for delivery. We are down to 9 cans (5 days) in the house. Ozzie is calling for martial law.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Och aye. ❤️💕❤️💕❤️

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    Barbara says:

    @Major Major Major Major: I am sitting at my desk on the east coast waiting for someone to send me something from the west coast and trying hard not to think of junk food. I have probably written 1500 words but they won’t do any good without the contribution I am waiting for. Ugh.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: thank you! I’m sure he’ll be happy to hear we’re thinking of him.

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    I am sitting at my desk on the east coast waiting for someone to send me something from the west coast

    Uh oh, it’s not me, is it?

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yeah, thanks subaru!

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    @Eric S.:

    Also the world, or the 3 places I’ve looked, are out of Ozzie the Cat’s canned food. Amazon is saying 4 weeks for delivery. We are down to 9 cans (5 days) in the house. Ozzie is calling for martial law.

    You should check to see if human-grade tuna is an acceptable substitute.

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    lamh36 says:

    Kevin Spacey Has Been Dropped by His Publicist and Agency via @vulture

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    geg6 says:

    Having some Chinese takeout: sizzling beef and scallops and pan-fried dumplings. A nice Pinot noir I got on sale. No fucking politics. Ready for a weekend.

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    rikyrah says:

    The curve for unqualified White Men is REAL

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    JMG says:

    Pizza from our local joint and chianti. Now it’ll be an early bedtime. Still making up playoff baseball sleep deficit.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    They so badly want a normal President, they overlook his total assault on all our political norms and the norms of his office.

    So my assumption is right and they all had alcoholic or otherwise impaired parents that everyone else was forced to tiptoe around for fear of the massive explosion of rage if they didn’t keep pretending that everything was normal?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    The NYT made me want to see a movie — Lady Bird.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Our friend efg is doing much much better, was discharged from hospital Wednesday to a rehab center for probably another week. He has mrs efg’s laptop but wifi is almost nonexistent where he is. Grateful for all our good wishes,

    I think we can anticipate the heartiest of “fuckem”s from him within the next few days!

    SO HAPPY that he is on the mend!!!

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    Mnemosyne says:

    Despite still being on crutches, I’m going to three different writing things this weekend: an RWA group, a meetup with some folks from the retreat I did in September, and a NaNoWriMo write-in. I need to do some prep tonight, tho.

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    Emma says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: Have one of those already. No, not really.

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    debbie says:


    Yay! What an up and down Friday this has been! Glad it’s ending on an up!

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    Shana says:

    @Major Major Major Major: We just had a lovely shabbos dinner: short ribs, roasted brussels sprouts and home made challah (2nd week in a row) with pear/apple crisp for dessert and a nice Chimney Rock Elevage. We’re seeing Assassins tomorrow night with possible canvassing in Virginia Sunday afternoon.

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    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you. That’s great news.

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    zhena gogolia says:


    Thanks, that’s good to hear.

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    satby says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Good news! Thank you again!

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    Josie says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Excellent news. Thanks again.

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    satby says:

    @debbie: it sure has been a roller coaster day. Hope Alain is doing ok.

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    HinTN says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Please regurgitate them there three bullet points. I’d pay good money to see python boiled down succinctly.

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    RobertDSC-iPhone 6 says:

    @Roger Moore:
    I dropped the MCU and all Marvel after they made Captain America into a Nazi. Fuckem.

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    NotMax says:


    One grandmother, otherwise a mediocre and reluctant cook, made an absolutely outstanding cholent. One of the secrets was lots and lots of white lima beans

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    LurkerNoLonger says:

    @Trentrunner: You like pie now, dude.

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    Davebo says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Make it a… Cheeeeeeseburger!

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    jeffreyw says:

    Hussein Kesvani‏Verified account

    Bin Laden spent his final years on YouTube comments section, getting angry at conspiracy theorists who said 9/11 was an inside job
    4:50 AM – 3 Nov 201

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    @HinTN: it’s pretty specific to the use case.

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    @Davebo: I’ll be damned, I’ve been saying that for years and somebody finally noticed.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    Just talked to mrs efg. Not much to add except for personal connection. Wifi in his rehab room sucks but she said he may call me in a day or two. Dialysis back on track. Jeopardy daughter, SIL, and most amazing granddaughter in the world joining them for Thanksgiving.

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    Kristine says:

    Chicken potstickers with green salad and cantaloupe. Fig infused balsamic vinegar makes a great dipping sauce.

    Great news about efg!

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    @Roger Moore: They’re Giant, they’re Evil, what’s not to like?

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    delk says:

    27 days until I close on my new condo. Super excited for life in a new neighborhood.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Roger Moore:

    Ick. Parks & Resorts assholes are the worst. They need a serious house-cleaning over there from what I’ve read in the papers (I have zero inside knowledge!), but it’s not going to happen anytime soon.

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    Mike J says:

    @Roger Moore: I have a copy of the dragon book but I can’t imagine anybody at Wharton could understand it.

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    mainmata says:

    I hope it’s not an exotic. Florida has too many of those already (even it it’s pretty).

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    They’re Giant, they’re Evil, what’s not to like?

    The evil part.

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    lamh36 says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I saw the trailer for that…not my thing, but it was interesting.

    I do KINDA want to see the new Orient Express, but I don’t know that I want to pay to see it ya know? And there are a LOT of great actors in the cast, but IDK..

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    Opiejeanne was asking if we’re going to do a meetup while they are here in Southern CA, they leave the 12th; what say you daytime jackals?

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    Ocotillo says:

    It’s early for a presidential candidate to emerge but it is going to be hard to get the message out when one does.

    Trump sucks up all the media oxygen whether it is good or bad, it’s hard for anyone else to get a word in.

    Of course they have their own media network and have had that for years now but the so called mainstream media are so overwhelmed chasing shiny objects, it will be hard for anyone to get any sort of message out.

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    Ocotillo says:

    Hard to talk about economic anxiety if all the news is about Twitler’s latest outrage.

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    The problem is that it’s not being restricted to Parks & Resorts; they’re getting the rest of the company involved. Blacklisting reporters from the local paper because they shine a light on your shady business practices is nasty.

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    Davebo says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Just saw him and the Large Band a couple of months ago.

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    mainmata says:

    @HAL: As always, it’s a matter of turnout. I’m not convinced that Gillespie is anything close to red meat to draw out the Trunpsters in the rural areas. We’ll see. Usual problem is motivating NVA voters to get out and vote.

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    Opiejeanne was asking if we’re going to do a meetup while they are here in Southern CA, they leave the 12th; what say you daytime jackals?

    I’m in.

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    Lot of new nyms here to tell us how everything sucks. Does Comrade P pay overtime for weekend trolling?

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: sorry, I read the part about efg having some type of discharge and couldn’t read the rest

    But glad he’s ok! Or as ok as one can be without B-J access.

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    Mnemosyne says:

    @Roger Moore:

    I have suppositions but no actual knowledge, and I can’t post the suppositions online. We’ll talk at the meet up.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I think they had to bring in a new squad because we figured out who the obvious trolls were. 😈

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    Feathers says:

    I have a bleeding back. (Content Warning). I got a pimple that became a lump, right under my bra strap, in the middle of my back, right where I couldn’t really reach it. Almost two weeks ago, it burst in the shower, and despite my best efforts became infected. Turns out I shouldn’t have bothered, because it went really deep (bra strap and all). Oh, well, the doctor has been super nice, I’m on antibiotics, but now I have a wound that needs to be cleaned out and repacked everyday. At least there isn’t a copay for wound cleaning. But I am never going to hear the word repack without a twinge.
    /content warning

    Jackals, if you know something should be looked at, get it looked at, no matter how much other shit is going on in your life. Also, glad to hear Thor is good, it’s playing down the street, think it will be a good pick me up/distraction.

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    @Mnemosyne: When and where, I’m flexible.

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    Feathers says:

    @Eric S.: One note: something that I’ve found is that companies who don’t want to sell on Amazon will still list it there, but put a far away availability date on it. Look around and you may find the manufacturer or distributor who actually does sell it on line. Or a list of stockists where you might find someone to ship.

    @lamh36: The problem, as I see it is that they can no longer assume audiences know who Poirot is. So Branagh has his tie akilter, rather than the slight perspiring that was such a jolt with Suchet. I watched through all the Poirot episodes after the election, kept me sane, but I did have to explain the character and show to the students at work.

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    SFBayAreaGal says:

    @Emma: I visited Iona over 15 years ago. Fell in love. I want to go back and spend more time in Oban, Mull and Iona

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    Mnemosyne says:


    Ouch! I once had a similar bra-related issue, though I did get the cyst looked at before it blew up on me. Packing is NOT FUN.

    ETA: Also, if someone is helping you with the packing, you can feel secure that that person truly loves you.

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    Mnemosyne says:


    I think we’re coalescing around next weekend (the 11th or 12th), but I don’t think we’ve decided on a day, time, or location yet.

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    Aleta says:

    Our neighborhood has power back after 5 days. All the things that were aggravating in the house suddenly seem not so bad next to the comfort of bright light, heat, hot water. TV. Yesterday much food in big freezer (still frozen but ready to be used) went to the soup kitchen, which I should do more often.

    At the end of today a plumber came in and put together our bath faucets in 5 minutes — we’ve been without any water except for the kitchen sink for > 6 months, through a strange twisting journey with a carpenter. Two weeks ago, just as we thought it was ending, he could not stop them leaking and thought we might have to replace. He wanted to try this and that; I was calling vintage parts places and fighting with my gentle, tolerant-to-the-bone partner about the carpenter.

    I was very close to cracking up. Turned out that a piece the carp. thought was decorative was actually the piece that is rotated until you get a balance between no leaking from the stems and being able to turn the faucets on. Tonight we have a bath tub and shower again.

    Leave town tomorrow for music with friends and then a party. Last year this get together fell 3 days after the election and we were all in shock. This year, days the first indictments, seems like we are circling toward relief.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:


    Yeah, I do. I understand. I want to see it but get why it’s not everyone’s thing.

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    Aleta says:

    @SFBayAreaGal: Iona: I didn’t expect it, never happened to me before, but for a day I walked over Iona and heard the ground singing the whole time. My gr-grandfather was from Ireland, but I felt such a connection on those islands it was uncanny.

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    @Mnemosyne: I think it would have to be the 11th then, Opiejeanne and Mr. Opiejeanne are leaving on the 12th from what she said last night.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @SFBayAreaGal: @Aleta:

    Love the Hebrides more than I can express.

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    Achrachno says:

    @mainmata: It’s exotic — from Africa. Clerodendrum thompsoniae

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    Origuy says:

    @SFBayAreaGal: I was in Oban in 2011 for the Scottish Six-Day Orienteering Festival. Six days of competitions, with a day off in the middle. I got a package deal, ticket on the ferry to Mull, a chartered bus from Cragnure to Fionnphort, then a small boat to Staffa. Some time on Staffa to explore Fingal’s Cave, then the boat came back and took us to Iona. A couple of hours to explore Iona, then the ferries and bus back to Oban.

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    I sat in on a presentation on Global Warming and CO2 and one of the points that was made was this:

    We can expect vining plants to grow much faster due to the increased presence of CO2 in the atmosphere
    and the increase in heat and moisture. Trees and large shrubs of course would also grow faster but,
    due to their slow growth nature, we wouldn’t readily notice it.

    But plants that vine are not subject to needing to grow “in place” and we will notice their increased growth
    and much more rapid spread.

    It is yet, another sign.

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