The White House and Wingnut Wurlitzer chorus are still singing from the “Hillary Clinton did the real Russia collusion” hymnal, as if Mueller Monday never happened. Trump, Huckabee-Sanders, Fox News, etc., are still yapping about emails, uranium, blah blah blah. If anyone pulls that bullshit on you, Joy Reid shows how to shut that person all the way up:
Watch the brilliant @JoyAnnReid shut down this RNC spokesperson on the bullshit Hillary/Uranium One conspiracy pic.twitter.com/G5vnMmCf2e
— HawaiiDelilah (@HawaiiDelilah) October 29, 2017
Reid produces a pile of receipts, arranges them just so around that woman’s specious argument, lights them on fire and burns that bullshit distraction to the fucking ground. It’s a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
Corner Stone
I enjoyed it but I still wonder why they ruin 10 minutes or so of precious airtime to even book someone like this?
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Joy is a treasure. She’s smart, does her homework, and doesn’t think politeness means you can’t disagree.
Corner Stone
Joy stopped Rick Tyler in mid-sentence and said, “We say “Democratic Party” on this show, my friend.”
He was appropriately chastened.
lamh36
@Corner Stone: I think Joy was ready and wanted to get on record and on tape her destroying the entire bullshit…and if it went viral, it went viral…. Joy Ann Reid, is VERY good at this. So much so, that I recall,
she totally PWNED Micheal Steele when she was on with him and he was soo pissed, you could see it in his face, and to be honest, I have NEVER seen her and Steele doing the same show as co-panelist AGAIN.
Neither do you see her often on Morning Joe…she is too good at getting her words in and in SOUNDBITE form!
Frankensteinbeck
Good lord. Usually I think people are overdoing it in claiming we won some media exchange, but Reid just beat Kerns like a red-headed stepchild*.
*I am a red-headed stepchild, so I know.
Corner Stone
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Joy is the best on MSNBC. And maybe the best on cable TV talk shows. Only Tweety in “Pissed Off Answer My Question And Stop Bullshitting Me” comes close to shutting people down in the same way. But Joy is a much better interviewer, overall.
I’m actually growing quite a fanboy crush on Stephanie Ruhle lately because she has stopped taking shit from anybody.
germy
Jen’s twitter comments are a bowl of mud soup, but even she had to admit this after her appearance on AMJoy
TaMara (HFG)
A thing of beauty.
Brachiator
I heard this exchange on a weekend news review show, but seeing it is even more wonderful. The only thing that would make it better would be, “Now get off of my show, you ignorant fool!”
And I just love, love, love, how she briefly, quickly, succintly got to the heart of the matter in deflating the bullshit.
I guess people should get a transcript and post it to their FaceBook friends as appropriate. And it’s sad. I didn’t know much about this before, but as soon as I heard “Hillary and uranium sales to the Russians,” I just presumed it was bullshit. Sad and typical that right wing goobers are so quick to latch onto anything that would confirm their dumb ass prejudices.
Again, I just love and respect Joy Reid. And the look that she threw at the woman before demolishing her liddle house of cards, perfect.
ETA: Who were the two people looking on as though they were stupefied?
Major Major Major Major
Open thread?
We’re approaching having things to do at work but aren’t quite there yet, so I’m learning iOS app development and playing with this line of python:
Tree = lambda: defaultdict(Tree)
Fun!
Jeffro
We were hootin’ and hollerin’ about this in the office today – so. much. winning!
She really does cut to the chase. 2018 and 2020 Dems, take note!
Patricia Kayden
@Corner Stone: MSNBC may have a policy that you have to have at least one Republican apologist on for each segment/panel. I notice that all of MSNBC talk shows have at least one Republican talking head. Joy is well spoken and does her research before having such jokers on so she’s able to fully push back against their foolishness and show them up.
Cacti
Okay, so here’s what I’m wondering.
Papadopoulos admits he made false statements to the FBI. Did Dotard tell him to make false statements?
If so, that’s conspiracy to obstruct justice.
‘Twas obstruction that brought down Tricky Dick Nixon.
Major Major Major Major
This YouTuber Is Figuring Out How to Counter the Alt-Right’s Dominance of the Site
MisterForkbeard
I’m really, really glad that someone actually did this and JAR’s takedown was fantastic. And cathartic, but incredibly good on the merits.
That said, even something like this – clear, succinct, fact-based and respectful – isn’t going to dent the Republican obsession with it. Because it was never about the facts, it was always about hating Hillary Clinton.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
They’ll never stop until Hillary is executed.
d58826
You know this is an administration that can’t swing a dead skunk w/o decapitating a couple of Russians.
Even if there was no ‘criminal collusion’ it really isn’t a good idea that the administration seems to have such a blind spot/penetration as this one.
I have never been involved in a political campaign but even I know enough that if I’m approached by some one and I realized that he is a possible Russian agent, the first thing to do is call the FBI.
Nicolle Wallace has said on a number of occasions that she has been involved in campaigns/a WH without ever meeting a Russian.
lamh36
Reposted…
The question before one break from Nicole Wallace, “did Putin get what he more than he bargained for w/Trump campaign…or is this mission accomplished” for Putin thanks to just haven sown the seed that took down the democratic process that the US has been known for.
Easy…it’s mission accomplished for Putin…even if no charges for Chump…the Russian goal of causing chaos worked and the US and it’s elections are now complete embarrasments all over the world.
And the guest all agreed that even if Putin didn’t ABSOLUTELY want Trump as President, but just chaos alone is exactly what Putin and Russia wanted
germy
@Cacti:
Corner Stone
@Patricia Kayden: Chuck Todd does his best to have 3R:1D or 0D most days. I would have thought he would take all those slots by himself.
Mart
I also like to add that per the NRC; “Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.” Also too, they have 20% of a type of uranium extraction process. So of course in Foxland this = Russia is getting 20% of our ‘murican uranium thanks to Hillary being bribed…
I also wish Joy was Rachel Maddow.
MisterForkbeard
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I think they might be happy with imprisonment and a mugshot.
What they want is validation. Killing her would be great, but what they really want is for everyone to acknowledge that they were right that Hillary is The Worse Person Ever. Well, that and pissing off liberals.
Cacti
@germy:
Very EEEnteresting.
O. Felix Culpa
That was a thing of beauty. I’ve never seen Joy Reid in action before. She’s smart, masterful, and prepared.
Wow.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@lamh36:
Too bad that won’t help him or Russia in the long term.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@MisterForkbeard:
Would they be happy with massive civil resistance that doing so to Clinton would cause?
Jeffro
@Cacti: Ultimately, the obstruction case against Trumpov is going to be so ironclad, so multifaceted, that anyone with an IQ over 50 will have to see it’s Impeachment Time. Unfortunately, this is the GOP-led Congress we’re talking about here…
Corner Stone
@lamh36: The problem is that the RWNJ bullshit gets into the ether. And that’s all they care about. The lie gets repeated and reinforced up and down the howler monkey echo chamber and the beatdown gets muted.
yam
All that newsy goodness and she didn’t even rub her boner on anyone…
Frankensteinbeck
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
A lot of them, yes. Thinking them through the practical aspects is not involved. The idea that they have inflicted their cruel will on us so absolutely that we effectively don’t have rights and are forced to fight fills them with joy.
TenguPhule
@d58826:
In all fairness, that’s one of the few things that hasn’t happened to any Russians involved in this.
So far.
quakerinabasement
A TV host who can recite simple facts about the subject under discussion? Is that allowed?
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: They seem plenty happy with the massive civil resistance they’ve already caused. What makes you think resistance to arresting Hillary would be any bigger than the women’s march, already the biggest protest in history?
cmorenc
Gee, if only Chuck Todd would take journalism lessons from Joy Reid. But that would require Chuckles to actually do substantive work, as opposed to simply tapping into the Villager Gossip network.
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
Sadly, this rules out 48% of the American voting population.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Major Major Major Major: I sent out my first Mail Chimp newsletter today, so that’s almost as techy!
lamh36
I have NEVER wanted to be friends with HRC as I do now…the dinner table conversation tonight!!!!
@ABC
Asked about today’s indictments during book signing in Chicago, Hillary Clinton says, “I have a great chapter about Russia” in her book.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Frankensteinbeck:
Sure, until shit started to get real and they began to get the shit beat out of them literally. I don’t think the GOP, their enablers in the media, or their donors understand how bad civil unrest can get. Why would they? They’ve lived privlidged lives here.
Major Major Major Major
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Woohoo!
It’s not a contest :)
randy khan
Apparently one of the right-wing talking points is that Mueller released the indictments to distract from the coverage of the real sHillary scandal. Or at least that’s what my plugged-in right wing Facebook friend just told me (complete with the reference to “sHillary”). I did not point out that the Papadopoulos indictment actually happened weeks before this latest stupid flare up.
Mart
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I help my ludite wife with her mandatory monthly MailChimp newsletter. I freaking hate how much time MailChimping makes me waste.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@lamh36: That woman knows how to market a book.
lamh36
I’ve been at work most of the day, and then I spent the better part of the afternoon at the DMV getting my driver’s license renewed.
So I’m catching up on alot of the going on of the day. So please excuse me if I ask questions or say things that folks have already been talking about all day.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
Because it would be complete bullshit and a transparent play at silencing their opposition with a kangaroo court. Especially if Trump fired Muller and his tried to shut down the investigation.
lamh36
So what’s the over/under on when/if Chump fires Mueller? And if so what happens as a consequence?
Czanne
OT, Open Thready, and totally hyper-local: I did some adulting today that comes with major anxiety triggers, so have been putting it off. Which is actually counter-productive, since it just festers in the back of my head, making me more avoidant and oppositional, and thus more anxious, but just because I know that the solution is to just Nike up and do it, doesn’t mean I’m going to.
It went much better than expected, turned out to be extremely painless, and I’m done. Which gives me motivation to get done with the rest of the anxiety-producing bullshit and make it stop being a part of my life.
Any of you Coloradans want a full-sized, electric adjustable bed with a brand-new memory foam mattress? I know it’s a small size for couples. Comes with some linens. Pick-up/drop-off negotiable.
trollhattan
“Two things that passed in the night.” Heh, enskewered!
lamh36
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“The U.S. is investigating foreign interference…& potential collusion..by American citizens.” -newly unsealed US District Court opinion.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I feel like we’ve already outraged as many people as are likely to participate in any unrest. If they disrupt the 2018 election somehow then I could see things escalating.
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
BJ Bookies have closed the books.
At this point its all up in the air.
As for consequences: Shit gets bad, very quickly.
Corner Stone
@yam: That’s how you can tell she is not truly a Very Serious Person.
lamh36
So from Per Jeff Toobin, the biggest news from court documents, it suggests to him Papo…was likely wearing a wire since July until maybe October?
Adam L Silverman
A friend in DC just texted:
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: Bombogenesis threat?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
Sounds like someone doesn’t want any hecklers.
JMG
Probably just a coincidence Turner Classic Movies showing “The Manchurian Candidate” this evening.
Corner Stone
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Isn’t the WH doing the trick or treat handing o candy thing this evening? Maybe Trump stress ate all the chocolate and they ran out?
lamh36
So, this Papo guy is relatively young right, and def not the same money bracket that Manafort has…so I can certainly bet that when faced with prison or helping the FBI, this young man was like…FUQ that I ain’t going to prison….
I’ma help bobby 3sticks take these fuq’ers down
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: How are the trick or treaters going to get there?
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Here you go:
Patricia Kayden
@Corner Stone: Todd is such an ogre that I refuse to watch anything he’s on. He should be in a different field of work.
@cmorenc: According to Chucky, it’s not journalists’ jobs to correct misinformation. They’re just supposed to be stenographers. My eyes cannot roll back hard enough.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
Open thread? For the Hamilton heads among us:
ETA: That doesn’t show the good part. Apparently someone’s 5 year old is singing along and sings, “How does a basket, orange, son of a horse..”
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Who knows. I’m sure the President is in full melt down mode as the analyses of the Papadopolous deal are becoming clearer and clearer.
JMG
I would think that an arrest of Hillary Clinton (for what?) would generate a reaction that would go far beyond marches.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: If that event is tonight, then that might be why.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: I don’t think he can fire Mueller at this point because it would be too obvious that he was doing so to cover up corruption among his associates. If he did, chaos would break out.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: It would be quite interesting if Papadopolous had spoken with Trump while Papadopolous was wired. One has to hope.
MoxieM
Every other news host (looking at you Irish white boys on MSNBC, and Rachel too) should be taking lessons from Joy in how to shush the chatter of other guests and the spewer-of-bullshit, and insist on the honest points in sequence. She is so brilliant.
Major Major Major Major
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): What’s Hamilton?
Mart
@JPL: “On Monday, October 30, 2017, the White House will open the South Lawn to ghosts and goblins of all ages,” the first lady’s office said in a statement.
lamh36
@dwilliams1210
Trump may not seek re-election, say two White House insiders
Major Major Major Major
@Mart: all that tells me is the cabinet and some of Congress can get there.
FlipYrWhig
@Corner Stone: Yup. It gives all the jerkwads who sit glued to Fox News and hate radio all day a second paragraph for whatabout-ing at their Democratic friends on Facebook.
dmsilev
@Corner Stone: Trump is the sort of person that parents warn their children about accepting candy from.
Adam L Silverman
Speaking of liability:
Mnemosyne
I can’t believe that I’m super busy at work and can’t keep up with the threads today. Gah! ?
Corner Stone
Chuck Todd is not even hosting his own show today. He’s got the odious Steve Kornacki in there. That may indicate how toxic the day’s events were for R’s that Chuckles couldn’t even find a way to step in and spin.
(((CassandraLeo)))
Or to put it more succinctly, Joy Reid is aptly named?
dmsilev
@Mnemosyne: Don’t worry, I have a sense that this is only the opening act.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: I’m not busy at work and I can’t keep up with all the threads.
jl
@Major Major Major Major: If Trump doesn’t like the job, he could quit now. I’d rather deal with Pence. Why would Trump stay on? Trump himself doesn’t believe half of the BS he used to get elected, and what he does ‘believe’ is inchoate impulse, not anything that can be shaped into policy. Probably for the better, Trump is no James K Polk.
I heard a clip of S Sanders’ statements today, and noticed some hedges: ‘no official contacts’, ‘most happened even before the campaign’. Interesting.
mai naem mobile
@lamh36: yeah,it might be hard to run a reelection campaign from the DC Jail.
Karen Potter
I found a web site that delivers bulk popped corn: http://www.kernelencorepopcorn.com/15-gallon-popcorn-bags.aspx?ref=ba
Miss Bianca
I watched that clip earlier today. I may just have to watch it again. With a cigarette. Which I don’t even smoke.
Because Joy Ann Reid is *that much* of a boss.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Major Major Major Major: You looking for trouble?
Adam L Silverman
We’re gonna need more G-Men!
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: I don’t think I would say that on tv, but I guess Stone looks at it differently.
jeffreyw
What I most noticed is that Joy didn’t say “no, here’s what happened”, she made the other person say what happened. There won’t be any “typical libtard lies” from anyone about the segment.
les
@lamh36:
Huh–wouldn’t have thought he’d have enough stashed in the re-election fund to make it worth stealing this early…
ericblair
@Patricia Kayden:
Well, wouldn’t Rosenstein have to do it, or whatever Saturday Night Massacre series of deputy AGs in this matter? And doesn’t Mueller have to be fired for cause, which is pretty fucking doubtful? If he got some rando order to go home that didn’t fit these parameters, couldn’t he just ignore it and keep plugging away, and then who would stop him? Would it take an actual act of Congress to make Mueller go away, which given this Congress’s performance so far, is a pretty iffy thing? Many questions.
Baud
@Corner Stone:
For a while, it looked like he was going to break out. Then he cratered.
jl
@les: Yeah, when I read that comment, occurred to me there might be another reason than usual for starting Trump 2020 campaign fund raising immediately.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Damn, I didn’t know they were even allowed to bring facts on cable TV.
jl
@ericblair: Firing Mueller will be hard to do if he pairs every indictment with news of a guilty plea. Let’s hope this first public filing will set a precedent.
lamh36
This says to me he is looking into how/why he can fire Mueller.
Or he will do a Nixon and resign
@JDiamond1
Trump is worried special counsel’s investigation will “hamstring” his ability to negotiate with world leaders, senior WH official says
Mike J
@JMG: In a way earlier thread (easy to miss) , I posted their schedule for the day:
The Red Danube
The Whip Hand
I Was a Communist For the FBI
The Woman On Pier 13
Big Jim McLain
The Confession
The Manchurian Candidate
Russian collusion all day long.
BC in Illinois
@lamh36:
Various things will happen if Mueller is fired, but the first has to be this:
MoveOn.org has a website for “Nobody Is Above The Law—Mueller Firing Rapid Response.” They have information about 300 events planned for the day that Trump fires Mueller.
The plan:
In St. Louis, the rally will be at the Old Courthouse.
(Up the hill from the Arch; the courthouse where Dred Scott WON his case.)
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: I’m thinking all the gunk he’s taken for years to try to look young has completely fried his brain. The human growth hormone has done a number on his skull.
germy
FlipYrWhig
@Baud: Re: Kornacki, remember that circa 2008 a helluva lot of people in the liberal blogosphere liked Chuck Todd. Sometimes the prospect who looks good in the minors loses his stuff in the show.
catclub
@Mart:
So Roger Stone invite?
Baud
@FlipYrWhig: Good point.
lamh36
I understand that the Dems on the Security committee have to say sometihing, but I kinda wish the elected Dems just release statements and stay off on air TV…there is no need for the “Dem side” when Chump is imploding slowly due to these indictments…
I’ve already seen Adam Schiff more than any elected GOP pol…
Baud
@catclub:
“That’s my candy, you cocksucker!”
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Frankensteinbeck
I’m thinking that there’s a delightful YA novel in your admission, F!
FlipYrWhig
@Adam L Silverman: For that matter, Putin’s face looks like it was torn down to the studs years ago and rebuilt to look like Tintin.
randy khan
@Adam L Silverman:
It’s not unheard of since January 20. It seems to happen every few weeks. The last time I noticed, they also closed off the entire Ellipse (which meant I up walking all the way down to Constitution Avenue, instead of walking across around E Street).
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: A city in Ontario.
MattF
@JMG: Simple– arrested for being Hillary.
catclub
@Adam L Silverman:
There was massive re-assignment to FBI agents to terrorism after 2001 – away from financial crimes.
I wonder what will get starved in this go round. RWNJ’s are always big on sex trafficking, but not so much on voting rights, for example.
jl
@FlipYrWhig: From the many body shots of Putin, I think he has had the good sense to stick with a competent plastic surgeon who does some nip and tuck work from time to time. Stone seems seriously addled in the head.
I think Adam said Stone has been taking body building cocktails for decades. Not sure whether he mentioned steroids.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: OK, I am starting to feel almost hopeful now…
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman:
B R A I N S !
MattF
@Adam L Silverman: I guess I’d kinda assumed that.
dogwood
@FlipYrWhig:
To be fair, in ’08 Chuck Todd’s contribution to NBC and MSNBC was pretty much limited to number crunching the delegate count during the primaries, and he was good at that. He’s shitty at the job he has now.
Miss Bianca
@lamh36: WHAT “ability to negotiate with world leaders” are we talking about, here?!
MattF
@Miss Bianca: Threatening to blow stuff up.
Adam L Silverman
@catclub: Actually there was massive reassignment to sex crimes, specifically child pornography. The counterterrorism stuff was lip service for several years until Ashcroft stepped down as AG. The FBI was under Congressional orders to find and hire people like me to do counterterrorism work. They didn’t.
FlipYrWhig
@dogwood: Plus, it’s easier to look like The Smart One when your network-news competition is Brian Williams and David Gregory.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: The changes in the structure of his skull are consistent with abusing human growth hormone.
Cheryl Rofer
Huh. They managed to shut down Trump’s tweeting before the Papadopoulos news came out.
Shows how serious this is.
(Sorry, I’ve been away from the computer, catching up now.)
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: 72 hour involuntary hold?
debbie
Jeaus. I need a cigarette and I haven’t smoked since 1993.
Would Joy ever consider running for office? I think she’d be excellent.
MomSense
Looks like we will be without power for a long time. There are huge pine trees down everywhere and lots of downed power lines. The cell service is spotty as hell. Just one day has been exhausting so I can’t imagine the hell that is Puerto Rico. Once I can access internet again, I’m going to give more money to relief efforts.
jl
@debbie: eaus. ” I need a cigarette and I haven’t smoked since 1993. ”
Buy some gum and schedule a de luxe high class night cap.
debbie
@MomSense:
Wow. Glad you’re okay, but I’m concerned about these people being in such close proximity to fallen wires.
Miss Bianca
@MattF: Oh! I forgot – words like “negotiate” mean something different to me than to Orangemandias:
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: and..gulp…you would know this, how, exactly…?
different-church-lady
Reality is a mofo.
scuffletuffle
@Czanne: can you drop it off in Western Massachustts?
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: Every seen any professional bodybuilders? One of the side effects of taking HGH is changes to the size and shape of the skull. From jawline to the top of the head. Or if you’ve ever wondered why Barry Bonds head changed sizes? HGH.
MisterForkbeard
@germy: I kind of doubt that’s true. It it WAS, it would be easily verifiable and our intelligence services wouldn’t have been barking up the wrong tree for so long.
Not to mention that if someone got the request via FOIA, it’s not really WikiLeaks mission to publish them. They wouldn’t be a leak at all.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:I haven’t actually *looked* at any body builders since Arnold was still a contender.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Am I the only one who senses some bitterness here?
Gravenstone
@lamh36: That’s a first step. Now if he’ll just decide to resign, we might get somewhere. Not that doing so would halt the investigation…
The Moar You Know
@Adam L Silverman: the local FBI got a brand new building and a multimillion dollar forensics lab from kiddy porn. If I were an agent it would be my dream job. Zero physical danger, stationary suspects, minimal work and guaranteed convictions. Far as I can tell, this is all they do and it’s their number one and only priority.
TenguPhule
@The Moar You Know:
But you’d have to watch the videos. And talk to other people about those videos.
I would not be able to handle that.
AnotherBruce
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: This, at the point Hillary Clinton, a private citizen, would be arrested, I would start looking into my 2nd amendment rights. Because when that happens, we will be going full Thunderdome.
HinTN
So, skipping past many comments unread to say that my little tendrils were stirred by that good old moniker, “the wingnut Wurlitzer.” Thank you, thank you, thank you.
HinTN
@Corner Stone: Oh God, yes. The tinfoil hat guy in my office regurgitates the pointes du jour and moves on without regret each day, no matter the debunking. I despair for reason.
psycholinguist
@(((CassandraLeo))): I love that movie so much
Achrachno
@(((CassandraLeo))): Or more directly yet — Joy is a joy forever.
chopper
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
sounds like prep for a category 5 tantrum.