Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Is There Nothing Trump Can’t Make Worse?

Who says stuff like that? (An elderly spoilt man-child who’s always lived in his own bubble, that’s who.)

“Yes, he said it,” Wilson said. “It’s so insensitive. He should have not have said that. He shouldn’t have said it.”

The president called about 4:45 p.m. and spoke to Johnson’s pregnant widow, Myeshia Johnson, for about five minutes. She is a mother to Johnson’s surviving 2-year-old son and 6-year-old daughter. The conversation happened before Johnson’s remains arrived at Miami International Airport on a commercial Delta Airlines flight…

Wilson watched as the widow, who is expecting their third baby in January, leaned over the U.S. flag that was draping Johnson’s casket. Her pregnant belly was shaking against the casket as she sobbed uncontrollably. Their daughter stood next to her stoically. Their toddler waited in the arms of a relative.

There was silence.

Local politicians, police officers and firefighters lined up to honor Johnson for his service and for the efforts and discipline that got the former Walmart employee to defy all odds and become a 25-year-old member of the 3rd Special Forces Group at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Johnson, who participated in a mentorship program Wilson founded in 1993, died during a mission fighting alongside Green Berets. Islamic militants ambushed them on Oct. 4 with rocket-propelled grenades and machine guns. The team reportedly didn’t have overhead armed air cover and was in unarmored pickup trucks. Reuters reported the lack of planning upset the French…

Wilson criticized Trump for failing to acknowledge Johnson’s death after he was left behind during the evacuation. It took nearly two days to find his body in the Republic of Niger’s desert. Johnson’s body made it to the U.S. on Oct. 7 when Trump was playing golf with Sen. Lindsey Graham…

From the Sargeant’s local paper, the Miami Herald:

Sgt. La David T. Johnson of Miami Gardens, the soldier and father who was killed in Niger, returned home Tuesday afternoon.

The fallen American soldier who wore the name of his wife and mother of his two children, Myeshia Johnson, tattooed across his chest under his U.S. Army uniform, was saluted with a ceremonial homecoming at Miami International Airport.

His family, including his widow, along with dignitaries and law enforcement officers, saluted Johnson as his casket, draped in the American flag, wheeled out of a Delta Airlines plane en route to Fred Hunter’s Funeral Home in Hollywood.

President Donald Trump, who unleashed controversy this week when he said that his predecessors, including President Obama, did not personally call families of fallen soldiers, a statement refuted by Obama officials, called Johnson’s pregnant widow Tuesday afternoon. His call, at 4:45 p.m., came just before Johnson’s body arrived at MIA.

Trump told his widow, who was in a car heading to the airport with her family and U.S. Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Miami Gardens, that “he knew what he signed up for … but when it happens it hurts anyway,” according to Wilson, who heard the call on speakerphone in the car.

“I think it’s so insensitive. It’s crazy. Why do you need to say that?’’ Wilson asked. “You don’t say that to someone who lost family, the father, the breadwinner. You can say, ‘I’m so sorry for your loss. He’s a hero.’

“I’m livid. He can’t even have an open-coffin funeral because his body is so messed up,’’ Wilson told the Miami Herald…

The Washington Post:

The White House has not explained why Trump took so long to comment publicly about the Niger ambush, but officials said Tuesday that he was regularly briefed on the incident during that period. They declined to provide details…

Wilson recalled in an interview with The Washington Post that Johnson broke down in tears. “He made her cry,” Wilson said. The congresswoman said she wanted to take the phone and “curse him out,” but that the Army sergeant holding the phone would not let her speak to the president.

The White House neither confirmed nor denied Wilson’s account. “The President’s conversations with the families of American heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice are private,” a White House official said in a statement.

Leon Panetta, who served as defense secretary and White House chief of staff under Democratic presidents, said Trump should have more quickly conveyed the “deepest regrets of the country for the families that lost their loved ones.” He put some of the responsibility for Trump’s slow response on his staff.

“Somebody screwed up here, okay?” Panetta said. “You don’t let that amount of time pass when our men and women in uniform have been killed.”…

Peter Wehner, an adviser and speechwriter in President George W. Bush’s White House, said communicating empathy and compassion has been for Trump like speaking “a foreign language.”

“Part of being a president is at moments being pastor in chief, dispensing grace and understanding and giving voice to sorrow, tragedy and loss,” Wehner said. “But he’s a person who’s missing an empathy gene.”…

82 replies
  1. 1
    NotMax says:

    “More and more people are learning about death every day.”

    Dolt 45 may not have actually blurted it out but you just know he was itching to.

  2. 2
    Steeplejack says:

    “Is there nothing Trump can’t make worse?”

    Nope. SATSQ.

  3. 3
    danielx says:

    Is There Nothing Trump Can’t Make Worse?

    Without in any way making light of a bad situation and tragedy and trauma for the families involved….

    Snort…chortle…Anne, is this a trick question?

  4. 4
    MomSense says:

    To paraphrase Jon Lovett, we gave our worst person our most important job and it’s not going well.

  5. 5
    jl says:

    Someone tell Baud that the ellipses in the early stories on this mess have been looked into, and it’s as bad as it looked.

  6. 6
    Quaker in a Basement says:

    Awaiting Trump’s insistence this is “fake news.”

  7. 7

    This supports my speculation that he got badly burned on the Yemen raid. He thought he could tell the military to do something exciting, then brag about it. Instead he ended up looking like a loser. The Syrian bombing was zero risk and had Putin’s approval, and it still took less than a day for people to find out it was a joke. In his cowardice, he has retreated (and thank goodness) from all military involvement beyond making threatening public statements thousands in formats where he will never have to hear the people he’s threatening’s response. Partly he doesn’t give a damn about these dead soldiers, but mostly he just wants to keep his head down and not get blamed.

    EDIT – I am also reminded of the one time I saw Obama get visibly angry, when Romney accused him of letting the Benghazi folks die. He took responsibility and cared about the deaths of everyone in the government under his watch.

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    Quaker in a Basement says:

    “He knew what he signed up for.”

    Pretty fkin rich, coming from a guy who ran for president and complains about news coverage.

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    jl says:

    @Quaker in a Basement: It’s been obvious since Trump announced his presidential run that he had no clue what he signed up for, still doesn’t, and is incapable of getting one.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    This Niger thing has reminded me that after the Yemen raid Trump was backpedaling furiously:

    This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something that was, you know, just, they wanted to do. They came to see me. They explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very respected. My generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan.

  11. 11
    JustRuss says:

    Hmmm, bad thing happens to darker-than-white person, and Trumps suggests it’s his own fault. I’m starting to sense a pattern…..

  12. 12
    Steeplejack says:

    @JustRuss:

    To be fair, Trump almost certainly would have said the same thing to the family of Chauncey “Whitey” McWhiterson.

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    jl says:

    @Steeplejack: Trump is a marvel, he can be equal opportunity awful despite his bone deep bigotry. He’s attacking and threatening McCain in a very ugly and cheap way, the day after McCain attacked the alt-right’s and Trumpsters’ degraded version of patriotism.

    I’m not a McCain fan, but it is immensely ugly, stupid and I think psychologically damaged for Trump to respond to McCain’s speech that way. McCain gave a very sincere thoughtful and important speech on the real meaning of patriotism, as he is very probably dying. And Trump responds like a cheap two bit loan shark towards some rat fink what is shorting him on the loan payments. Sick.

    McCain has been a mess for a lot of his life, but I think he gave an important speech that was desperately needed by the country right now. A decent person would show some shred of respect.

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    jl says:

    And after watching that poor widow sobbing on her late husband’s casket, and reading what Trump said, I felt physically ill. That widow, who is going through such pain, and lost such a remarkable husband, deserves better, Far better. I’ll keep her and the other widows in my thoughts. Might even do a prayer, even though I don’t really believe in that stuff.

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    Splitting Image says:

    As a matter of policy, people should probably stop criticizing Trump for not doing part of his job, any part of his job. He has provided sufficient evidence that getting him to actually do something is always worse than having him not do it.

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    J R in WV says:

    @jl:

    Yes, in times like these we yearn for a shred of belief in a higher power who can protect those of us who are most directly injured by Orange Boobius Trumpus. It is too much to expect him to acquire a dignity coach, who could show him when not to say anything.

    How to mimic sorrow for another person, when Trump is supremely is unaware of any other person in his tiny universe. When to just say “Thank you so much for your service!” and then shut the hell up.

    This stuff isn’t hard even for terrible people to mimic, to act briefly like another person was important to them and to others that they care about. You average terrible sister-in-law or Trumpista Brother can fake it for an hour at graveside.

    But Trump cannot do it.

    I hope the VA and the Military can take care of these soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, and their families when they are sacrificed for the nation. I know they need to and want to; if only, if only Trump doesn’t take away the tools they need to help those widows and orphans along in life.

    You guys help me cope with the late night demons, for which I thank you all. But tonight it’s dogs out barking at something up a tree, probably a possum or raccoon. then a cat on my shoulder purring while I read the blog, and some other carefully selected sites that won’t piss me off too much.

    When you take the meds supposed to help you sleep a normal night and you still can’t stay down, that can be a hard time of night.

    Bless you Betty Cracker, and John Cole, and all my fellow commenters, for being there when times can be a little hard, thinking of the worst cases we might need to be prepared for, for example.

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    Joyce H says:

    I think I already know how the White House response to this is going to go down. Tomorrow Sarah HS will get up at the podium, and in tones of self-righteous anger, spin it as ‘What the president said was factually accurate and how dare the Media Elites imply that our brave warriors don’t know what they’ve signed up for.’ They’ll try to switch it around to whether or not the statement was true, rather than whether or not it was grossly insensitive. If allowed to change the narrative like that, they’ll get away with it, because of course it’s true. But it was a truth that shouldn’t have been spoken AT THAT MOMENT. It would be like going to the funeral of a profoundly disabled child and saying to the mother, “You’ll have a lot more free time now” – which would also be true, but anyone with a speck of humanity would know not to say it then and there, and better not said EVER.

    That’s going to be the official White House response, I predict. Of course, Trump is perfectly capable of going after the widow, too. After all, by sobbing on the casket like that – SHE MADE HIM LOOK BAD!

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    fuckwit says:

    Holy fucking shit.

    What a fucking tool.

    I thought Nixon and Shrub were sociopaths. But this fucking guy takes the cake. He’s not even trying to pretend to be human.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    “He knew what he signed up for.”

    No, I’m pretty fucking sure he signed up before last November.

    What a wretched, shitty little man he is.

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    Repatriated says:

    You know, his Chief of Staff is a General, and if not him then there must be some people in his circle who could have provided an appropriate script, or let him know what should be said.

    They didn’t.

    I almost suspect it was an intentional oversight. They knew he’d botch it horrifically if left to his own devices. He was set up, but it’s his own doing.

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    Repatriated says:

    In other words, the people who are supposed to be managing him aren’t trying all that hard to protect him from himself.

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    The Dangerman says:

    @fuckwit:

    He’s not even trying to pretend to be human.

    I’d like to know how he got through High School and College without getting an asskicking that would have woken him up.

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    @fuckwit:
    I’ve heard, and I don’t know if this is true, that dealing with the Iraq war deaths changed Shrub. It finally broke through to him that war wasn’t a game. Again, this is hearsay. I have personal experience with someone I would have sworn biologically incapable of valuing other humans who got hit so hard by what he witnessed in the army that he became merely a bad person.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    @The Dangerman: You can buy friends in high school and college (especially business school) pretty cheap.

  25. 25
    hellslittlestangel says:

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    …he became merely a bad person.

    That’s a height well beyond Trump’s grasp.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    Zedward’s tweets are exactly right. Why has no one asked the Orange Bigot about the actual mission and whether or not it was mishandled? I’m not interested in trying to turn Niger into a Benghazi-like “scandal” but the public needs to know what happened in Niger.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @hellslittlestangel: In other words, “He’s dead. Tough. Suck it up. He knew that death was a possibility, Toots.”

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    Brachiator says:

    @Steeplejack:

    To be fair, Trump almost certainly would have said the same thing to the family of Chauncey “Whitey” McWhiterson.

    I’m not too sure about that. First, we only have reports of what he DID say. And he has consistently shown a racist’s classic dismissal or devaluation of people who are not white like him. But either way, this statement is stunning in its lack of class and empathy.

    I also came across an MSNBC clip where Trump falsely claimed that Puerto Rico power plants were destroyed before the hurricanes hit the island. He keeps trying to back away from his responsibility by denigrating PR.

    There is something deeply wrong with him. None of this is necessary, but he always goes there.

  29. 29
    Mai.naem.mobile says:

    @hellslittlestangel: Dolt45 used to talk about how nobody could remember Obama from his student days at Columbia. How come nobody remembers Dolt45 from his college days? Or his HS days? You would think people from a small boarding/military school would remember him. People remembered Romney. People remembered Obama from the private school in Hawaii.

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    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    How come nobody remembers Dolt45 from his college days? Or his HS days? You would think people from a small boarding/military school would remember him.

    Odd, ain’t it?

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    polyorchnid octopunch says:

    @Mai.naem.mobile: I think I can understand why someone who went to school with Trump and knows his character might decide it’s not the best thing for themselves or their families to talk about it right now.

  32. 32
    Mai.naem.mobile says:

    There were people around Dolt45 when he was running who knew he was completely and utterly unqualified for the job. I am talking about his asshole extended family (the NY judge sister), his Apprentice Family(+NBC),his regular entourage and the GOP party elders. None of them did anything because they thought they could gain from it. After Dolt45 got the nomination, Josh Marshall said something about raising enough $$ to pay off Trump to get out of the race. They should have paid off Kushner for his 666 loan. He would have figured out how to get Dolt45 out of the race and it would have been a bargain compared to a Dolt45 presidency.

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    JGabriel says:

    @Repatriated:

    In other words, the people who are supposed to be managing [Trump] aren’t trying all that hard to protect him from himself.

    Perhaps they’re to busy trying to protect the rest of the country, and the rest of the world, from Trump.

  34. 34
    Mai.naem.mobile says:

    @polyorchnid octopunch: Obviously not now, but during the primary and the general election. I just remember all the stories they did on Obama. There were people from Occidental,Indonesia, the Pakistani roommate,Harvard,Chicago and Hawaii. The press couldn’t find crap on Dolt from NY or Penn?

  35. 35
    Joyce H says:

    @Brachiator:

    There is something deeply wrong with him. None of this is necessary, but he always goes there.

    And he always lies, when it’s easy to prove he’s lying. I’ll bet the staff is waiting for the next shoe to drop, because NOW he’s claiming that he’s called ALL the families of service members KIA during his presidency. I simply can’t believe that, because if the staff had that organized and had him trained to make the calls, we wouldn’t be having this Niger flailex. But he’s made the claim. Now all we need is for one of the families to say, wait, we didn’t get a call.

    I think he’s just lied all his life because he’s always gotten away with it. Even when he was making news in NYC, if he lied about something, that wouldn’t be particularly compelling news. ‘Shady real estate developer claims he made a phone call but he didn’t.’ No newspaper would waste the column inches to run that story. But ‘president claims he called dead soldier’s family but he didn’t’ – now that’s news.

  36. 36
    JGabriel says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    I’m not interested in trying to turn Niger into a Benghazi-like “scandal” …

    I am.

    I want to hit back at Republicans twice as hard as they ever hit Democrats, because every single one of the GOP’s criticisms are hypocritical lies based on projecting their own vile beliefs, behaviors, and tendencies. Everything the GOP falsely accuses Democrats of, Republicans actually do themselves. And they should be called on their crimes, and their self-serving lies, and their selfish policies with the fury of the righteous.

  37. 37
    JGabriel says:

    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    Dolt45 used to talk about how nobody could remember Obama from his student days at Columbia. How come nobody remembers Dolt45 from his college days?

    See my comment above, re: projection.

  38. 38

    @JGabriel: Maybe Trump never went to college.

  39. 39
    rikyrah says:

    The picture of the widow hugging his coffin was heartbreaking.😥😥😥
    They met when they were six years old.😥😥

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    JGabriel says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Yes, that’s exactly what I’m implying. Or more specifically, that Trump probably went to college, but probably paid someone else to do all the homework and write all his term papers – maybe even paid that someone to show up for all of Trump’s classes in his stead.

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    Amir Khalid says:

    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    How come nobody remembers Dolt45 from his college days? Or his HS days?

    It may be that those who knew him then would rather forget. And who could blame them?

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    geg6 says:

    @JGabriel:

    Back during the campaign, I remember reading a post or letter by one of his roommates (I believe) in college. Said he was an asshole then but not very much of a BMOC. As a transfer student, I’m sure no one who got in through merit as freshmen gave him the time of day. My guess is that he had no friends and, based on the fact that he had to transfer in, he was barely able to keep up academically. He probably wouldn’t even have made it in as a transfer if not for Fred’s $$. The roommate, if I remember correctly, said Dolt barely scraped through as a C student. With the grade inflation that’s always been rampant at the Ivies, I’m guessing he would have failed out at many other schools.

  43. 43
    Shalimar says:

    @Repatriated: From all accounts, no one tells Trump what he should do. You give him advice, and he ignores it if it isn’t what he wants to hear. You give him a script, he reads the part he wants and improvises the rest. He wanted to make sure the widow knew it wasn’t his fault, so he told the widow it was her husband’s fault.

  44. 44

    @Shalimar: Harry Truman: “The Buck stops here.”

    Donald Trump: “The Buck stops over yonder…”

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    Manyakitty says:

    @Amir Khalid: Heck, I would forget about him now if I could.

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    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us? says:

    You know his staff has been nagging him to make these calls for the better part of two weeks. That’s why when he was asked why the White House hadn’t made a statement on the deaths that he went to the BS excuse that other POTUSs didn’t call either. He didn’t answer the question that was asked because his mind went straight to the fact that he’s been falling down on the job while finding time to golf 5 times in 12 days, and groped for an excuse for it.

    He still hasn’t said anything about the events that led to the deaths but I don’t think he was intentionally trying to dodge that question ( the reporter didn’t exactly ask about that either)…he was just so focused on covering his ass for his own days long laziness and disinterest. He knows he should have, but there were rounds of golf to play.

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    satby says:

    For all of us who are sickened by the Traitor in Chief’s insensitive words, there’s a way to directly repudiate him by contributing to the scholarship fund set up for Sgt Johnson’s three children.

  48. 48
    Steeplejack (phone) says:

    @Mai.naem.mobile:

    They were kids and thought it was a joke when they signed the nondisclosure agreements.

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    SFAW says:

    Re: forgetting Shitgibbon from college: I recently read something — I think it was on GOS, or linked at GOS, where some (late) Wharton prof said that Lying Littledick was the worst/dumbest student he ever had. I think the comment was made before the campaign started, because the prof died before then (again, I think, not sure).

    Maybe someone should look into whether Shitgibbon had that professor killed? It would be irresponsible not to speculate, etc.

  50. 50
    SFAW says:

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    his mind

    Objection! Assumes facts!

  51. 51
    MJS says:

    @Steeplejack: I wouldn’t be so sure of that. The racism runs deep in this president*.

  52. 52
    rikyrah says:

    @Patricia Kayden:
    Why were we in Niger?

  53. 53
    rikyrah says:

    @Joyce H:
    Two soldier’s families have already come forth and said that he hasn’t called them

  54. 54
    Greenergood says:

    ‘Graham said it was Trump’s strategy to distract reporters from the important questions about the deadly ambush in Africa.’ And the strategy is working – he shouts ‘Squirrel!’ and off they go squirrel-hunting while we all watch. By the time a ‘serious’ journalist from the MSM takes a peek at Niger, he’ll find something else to distract the reporters, and us.

  55. 55
    BretH ok says:

    45 now claiming on Twitter he never said that and he has proof!!!!

  56. 56
    Amir Khalid says:

    @BretH ok:
    Does that maroon not realise that the families have witnesses? Facepalm.

  57. 57
    Kay says:

    New: @AP finds families of two soldiers who died overseas during Trump presidency who never received call or letter

    Dumbo and the low quality crew who follow behind him with the shovels really stepped in it this time. They forgot there are witnesses.

  58. 58
    Kay says:

    @BretH ok:

    It’s a real commentary on his Presidency that he always has to cite “proof”. That’s consistent with liars. They know they won’t be believed.

    Normal Presidents wouldn’t be involved in this shameful pissing match but normal Presidents also don’t have to cite “proof” for every word they say because they assume they’ll be credible. Imagine Obama or Bush going out and saying “I have proof!” – it’s fucking ridiculous.

    Every day he’s in office he takes the standards down another peg. Every day.

  59. 59
    Kay says:

    @Greenergood:

    I would say “distraction” mattered but they weren’t covering the circumstances around the deaths anyway, so IMO this will bring more attention to it, not less.

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    d58826 says:

    That the practice of POTUS honoring a fallen soldier has been reduced to a political he said/she said cat fight is beyond despicable. I feel the need for a hot shower after reading some of the comments but I fear there isn’t enough hot water to remove the stain.

    At this point is there anything left in our civic life that Der Fuhrer hasn’t despoiled?

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    Just sayin' says:

    @fuckwit: @fuckwit: @fuckwit: Republicans missed the “empathy” gene, but instead got an extra “self pity” gene…

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    And it was the black window he pulled this crap with. Racists scum, except I think even the actual slave owners would have shown more compassion that Trump h

  63. 63
    SFAW says:

    Following the Weigel tweeterings led me to something that makes me think that Fuckstick Felon Jimmy O’Queefe tried stinging the FTFNYT? Too lazy to Google it, besides the idea of two hated entities destroying each other is perversely alluring.

    OK, so I did a quick Google anyway, looks like Fuckstick O’Queefe has some low level editor doing something something, and the not-selectively-edited-oh-no-never-spliced-and-diced video confirms that libtard NYT people are libtards who are trying to libtard ‘Murica in their libtardiness. I’d have more, but all the links were to places like World Nut Daily, Breitfart, and the usual cast of traitors.

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    kindness says:

    I wish he wasn’t my president. The only one who like’s Trump being president is Bush43. Making him look better every day.

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    Bookeater (formerly JosieJ) says:

    @JGabriel:

    I suspect the only people they’re trying to protect are themselves.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @The Dangerman:

    I’d like to know how he got through High School and College without getting an asskicking that would have woken him up.

    Likely getting betting is the only attention Trump got from his dad Grew up with a guy like that, he was beating regularly in highshool, joined the miltiary were in boot camp the other recutes beat him so bad as leave him partly crippled, then he rapped some woman, ended up in prison were I assume since he is skinny and little he was raped the whole time and now apparently is hiding in another state.

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    SFAW says:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Does that maroon not realise that the families have witnesses? Facepalm.

    He said that Congresswoman Wilson (who I believe was a witness) is a lying liar who’s the lyingest liar since lies were invented. And he has PROOF of her lying lyingness!!!

    In a just world, CoS Kelly would slap the shit out of Lying Littledick for being a fucking asshole.

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    dmsilev says:

    @BretH ok: If he actually had “proof”, he’d just provide it.

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    chopper says:

    @Shalimar:

    exactly. he pulled it off with the Yemen raid, blaming the death of that seal on “the generals”. then he did that bit in his sotu (was it?) about the guy and got all that applause and figured fuck it, this shit really works!

    the guy refuses to accept responsibility for anything, and he’s gotten away with it before as to this same situation – loss of a high value human military asset in a botched raid that was screwes up from the beginning. he’ll do the same shit again.

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    sylvania says:

    If the right was not horrified and disgusted when he called McCain a loser for being shot down, captured, and tortured during the Vietnam war, then there is nothing he can say or do that would upset them. So fu ck all of them. I’m not a McCain fan either.

    He said that before the election. So there is no excuse at all. They own this 100%

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Greenergood:

    Graham said it was Trump’s strategy to distract reporters from the important questions about the deadly ambush in Africa.’ And the strategy is working –

    I think that’s over thinking Trump; the man is simply a drama queen. Talking about Nigeria is bad in Trump’s eyes because that’s not talking about Trump.

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    lurker dean says:

    good thread by a soldier on the idea that soldiers know that they signed up to die:

    https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/920491808634888193

    1. Let's talk for a minute about "he knew what he signed up for."— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) October 18, 2017

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    Boatboy_srq says:

    @Joyce H: as of a little while ago we have from Twitler “I didn’t say that and I have proof! Fake-news-eleventy-one!”

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    Boatboy_srq says:

    @Kay: So, Shrub was gullible enough to believe the Cheney/Rumsfeld/PNAC propaganda, which made him sound genuine and trustworthy, where Lord Dampnut doesn’t believe anything he didn’t think up himself?

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    SFAW says:

    @Boatboy_srq:

    we have from Twitler “I didn’t say that and I have proof! Fake-news-eleventy-one!”

    “It was a 30-pound squirrel that knocked over the cookie jar! I have proof!!”

    No, there is nothing Lying Littledick can’t make worse. Things that he hasn’t made worse are just those things he hasn’t encountered yet.

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    Ruckus says:

    @jl:
    I’d be amazed if he had a clue what fucking day it is. Oh wait he does know, it’s golf day.

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    jonas says:

    @BretH ok:

    he never said that and he has proof!!!!

    (Arrested Development Narrator): “Neither of those things was true.”

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    afanasia says:

    @kindness: For all his sins, I don’t doubt that Bush 43 cares about the way the rest of the world views the US. He can’t be happy with the show Trump is putting on.

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    Ruckus says:

    @fuckwit:
    Nixon and Shrub most likely were/are. But this asswipe is about 1500 levels worse. There will be a textbook written about him, that if you are trying to help people with their personality disorders, that if you find one with one tenth the issues, and you can salvage that personality, you will be the leading person in your field. First because you were able to convince this person that there was something to fix inside themselves rather than every other human on the planet. Second because it didn’t drive you to just walk away and hope a truck hit them.

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    Annie says:

    @Repatriated:

    Who needs “an appropriate script” to offer condolences to a widow?

    Well, Dolt 45 I guess.

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    JGabriel says:

    @Bookeater (formerly JosieJ):

    @JGabriel:

    I suspect the only people they’re trying to protect are themselves.

    That’s a good point.

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    Ruckus says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:
    Well a slave owner would be losing a piece of property, drumpf doesn’t even have that much of a relationship with anyone. He doesn’t have any friends, his family seems to be there for the money, the others are there for the scraps they can find. He’s created the perfect life for someone who hates everyone. I

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