The devil and Mr. Jones

Roy Moore isn’t just an asshole, he’s also a crook:

Former Alabama judge Roy Moore, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate, once said publicly that he did not take a “regular salary” from the small charity he founded to promote Christian values because he did not want to be a financial burden.

But privately, Moore had arranged to receive a salary of $180,000 a year for part-time work at the Foundation for Moral Law, internal charity documents show. He collected more than $1 million as president from 2007 to 2012, compensation that far surpassed what the group disclosed in its public tax filings most of those years.

Let’s give a little more money to the Democrat running against Moore, Doug Jones. Jones is the guy who, as a prosecutor, put away the KKK members who murdered four African-American girls in the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. He deserves our support.

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    Hunter Gathers says:

    5 bucks says he blames it Obama.

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    Mary G says:

    His fundraising emails say that polling shows the race is close, if I’m remembering right. And the more light that is shined on “Judge” Moore, the worse he looks, so I’ll send a bit more when I have it, no available money right now.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    What’s the surprise? Moore’s a grandstanding, finger wagging conservative Christian, of course he’s running a scam. The only question is why do conservative voters keep on voting for obvious frauds like Moore.

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    hellslittlestangel says:

    Ordinarily I give money to candidates who I think have a chance to win (do most of them win? — Ha!), but this race really seems worth taking a chance on. Kicking in a few bucks is almost like getting to vote against The Orange Better One again.

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    Chris says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Moore’s a grandstanding, finger wagging conservative Christian, of course he’s running a scam.

    I was going to say something like this, but you said it better.

    Seriously, is there any Republican of even moderate importance who’s not some kind of crook? The system is practically designed to produce such people.

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    Cacti says:

    Roy Moore’s son was also recently arrested for the NINTH time.

    Recently, following his FOURTH drug-related arrest, Caleb Moore, 27, was offered a pre-trial diversion program in lieu of prosecution.

    His rap sheet includes:

    Criminal trespass
    DUI (in Alabama and Florida)
    Drug charges (x 4)

    And yes, Roy Moore wants to tell all the rest of you how you should live.

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    jonas says:

    (in the voice of Chris Rock from “No Sex in the Champagne Room”): “If you get a fundraising letter for some charity, and it mentions Jesus, you can be sure it’s a total grift.”

    Also, no matter what the stripper tells you, there is no sex in the Champagne Room.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Cacti:

    I believe there’s been at least one domestic violence charge as well.

    As somebody said earlier today (can’t remember whether it was in reference to Baby Moore or some other grotesque person’s awful spawn), “The turd doesn’t fall far from the asshole.”

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: You are far too kind to that rat bastard.

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    Marcopolo says:

    The little charity also employs his wife & two of his children. I hear in Alabama that’s called grifting in high cotton.

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    Cacti says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    As somebody said earlier today (can’t remember whether it was in reference to Baby Moore or some other grotesque person’s awful spawn), “The turd doesn’t fall far from the asshole.”

    Now, now. I’m sure every black defendant in the great State of Alabama, facing their fourth criminal drug charge, would also get offered a diversion. Or for that matter, every white defendant whose father isn’t a high ranking judicial officer. (wink, wink)

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    trollhattan says:

    @Cacti:
    Have it on good authority Roy’s ten commandment sculpture does not list
    “Thou shalt not do no drinkin’ and drivin'”
    “Thou shalt not be poachin’ yer neighbor’s critters”
    “Thou shall stayest off the bong”

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    At first it sounded like hyperbole, the escalation of a Twitter war. But now it’s clear that Bob Corker’s remarkable New York Times interview—in which the Republican senator described the White House as “adult day care” and warned Trump could start World War III—was an inflection point in the Trump presidency. It brought into the open what several people close to the president have recently told me in private: that Trump is “unstable,” “losing a step,” and “unraveling.”

    I hate every one in the White House! -Rump

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    Marcopolo says:

    Also too, posted this earlier but enjoy Northam’s latest ad in the VA Gov race: https://youtu.be/RjFyzPaUsJk

    It’s all about Gillespie being a sell out, and I thought it worked.

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    JPL says:

    Though shall not bear witness Moore needs to practice what he preaches.

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    Yutsano says:

    @JPL: False witness is their favourite commandment to break. No adultery is a close second.

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    debbie says:

    It’s hard to tell from that excerpt, but are both paragraphs about the same charity? It wouldn’t surprise me if he worked for multiple sucker organizations.

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    debbie says:

    @A Ghost to Most:

    The man has been unraveled for decades. It’s just that more people can see (or choose not to see) him as he is.

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    Baud says:

    @debbie: This.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Yutsano:
    Covet and steal are right in there. Donny the Slut covets what he can never have: being born in Manhattan instead of the Bronx. As to “thy neighbor’s wife”….

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Cacti:

    Of course they would, what could I have been thinking?!

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    MomSense says:

    @debbie:

    He’s been unraveled for decades but he has never faced so much scrutiny and never had so much responsibility. He is failing in spectacular fashion at the front and center of the world stage.

    This is a critical time because he feels exposed and under attack.

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense:

    He is failing in spectacular fashion at the front and center of the world stage.

    That could have been me.

    Sigh.

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    Yutsano says:

    @trollhattan:

    Covet and steal are right in there

    AKA why the Prosperity Gospel is full of shit.

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    Roger Moore says:

    @trollhattan:

    Covet and steal are right in there.

    They also seem to worship idols (e.g. R.E. Lee statues) and false gods (e.g. Mammon and Moloch).

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    MomSense says:

    @Baud:

    You will always be center stage for us, Baud.

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    MomSense says:

    @trollhattan: @Yutsano:

    Those are the commandments Moses smashed. When he boils a kid in its mother’s milk then god will really be pissed.

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    JPL says:

    @Yutsano: Must admit that I was polled last night, and lied on one of the answers. Not the one asking about whether or not I liked the asshole, and not the one who I would vote for in my district, but the one about who I voted for before. I also don’t hang the ten commandments in my front yard, so it’s okay.

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    Yutsano says:

    @MomSense: Ahh Moishe you big jokester.

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    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon says:

    I gave Jones $$ last week, got my kids in on it too. I told them we’ll probably lose, but we have to try!

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    Baud says:

    @MomSense:

    😊

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    Duane says:

    It’ll be interesting to see how many will vote for Moore despite his behavior. What does it take to say,Republican or not, I can’t support this crook.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Duane: What does it take to say,Republican or not, I can’t support this crook.

    In this particular race, “Love is love” or “Black lives matter”

    In DC, “You know, the rich really aren’t overtaxed..”

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    A Ghost to Most says:

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: But if Jones wins, they will enjoy it as much as I enjoyed helping Webb beat George Allen. That was sweet.

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    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon says:

    @A Ghost to Most: Amen!

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    raven says:

    @A Ghost to Most: Even though Webb is a fucking asshole. But, of course, Allen is way worse.

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    @MomSense: I hope he knows he’s failing publically. I fear he’s able to fool himself.

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    danielx says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Same reasons they keep sending money to the likes of Pat Robertson and Oral Roberts; they are afraid it will make the baby jeebus cry if they don’t. Equally important, he hates the same things they do.

    In other news, Lord Shortfingers sez it is “disgusting the press is able to write whatever it wants to write.” Especially when what they write shows him in a bad light, which is pretty much always these days.

    The NBC story that angered Trump said the president had sought to expand the U.S. nuclear arsenal by a factor of 10, something he said was false.

    Because we need 60,000 nuclear weapons, doncha know, instead of the paltry 6500 or so possessed by the US at present. Supposedly this particular brainstorm of Trump’s is the reason Tillerson referred to him as a fucking moron.

    Fucking moron.

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    danielx says:

    @Baud:

    And may be yet.

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    VOR says:

    @danielx: He only wanted to expand it by 9.99x, not 10x. Total lies! Fake news!

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    Elizabelle says:

    WaPost media beat reporter Paul Farhi: Why did NBC News let the Weinstein blockbuster get away? Once again, questions mount

    [ETA: Ronan Farrow was reporting the HW story for months; NBC passed on the rough version and Farrow eventually took it to The New Yorker.]

    Because they’re wimps? They were afraid of Harvey Weinstein’s and Trump’s lawyers? They passed on the Access Hollywood scoop too.

    But: check out the photo of Ronan Farrow. That is young Frank Sinatra. His exact laughing face.

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    burnspbesq says:

    Misstatements on a Form 990 could get the charity in a heap o’trouble with the IRS, but won’t.

    If Lois Lerner hadn’t existed, the right-wing non-profit scam community would have invented her.

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    Davebo says:

    Jones is the guy who, as a prosecutor, put away the KKK members who murdered four African-American girls in the 1963 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama.

    Which sadly may well be a huge liability in a statewide race in AL.

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    debbie says:

    @MomSense:

    Seconded! But just to be safe, we’ll take away his Twitter.

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    debbie says:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):

    I think he knows, but he thinks he can battle his way out of trouble.

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    Kay says:

    Hiring his entire family is a nice touch. Gross. What happened to getting a job when you grow up? What’s a workday like in the Moore household? They all watch the number go up as the chumps send in money?

    Half the Huckabee Family are now working for the Trump Family in the White House. What’s wrong with these people?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Kay: Hiring his entire family is a nice touch. Gross. What happened to getting a job when you grow up?

    What will Ben Sasse say?

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    Barbara says:

    @Cacti: It is with a sense of despair that I wonder whether any of this matters. I think that in today’s climate David Dukes would have won against Edwin Edwards. I will nonetheless kick a few dollars to Mr. Jones.

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    Kay says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Right? The problem doesn’t appear to be 15 year olds. He might want to deliver that particular lecture to the adults on the Right. I love how we all just decided none of these people ever have to apply for a job. It’s some special religious exemption- they’re full time scolds.

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    gene108 says:

    @A Ghost to Most:

    If a black man can be President, than any white guy can do it better.

    Republicans logic on Trump.

    It’s not like Trump was hiding anything. Edit: regarding his temperament

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    lollipopguild says:

    @Roger Moore: Also gold bars, guns and unborn babies.

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    dmsilev says:

    @Barbara: Yeah, that’s basically where I am. It’s worth supporting Mr. Jones, and I’ve done so, but he’s the underdog, even against a corrupt lunatic like Moore.

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    Kay says:

    Come on, Republicans. This is disqualifying. He and his entire family are robbing your neighbors. I mean, WTF? Where’s the line? Do they have to start knocking people down in the parking lot and taking their wallet? What do you need?

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    Baud says:

    @Kay:

    They need someone who doesn’t hate liberals with every fiber of their being. That would be disqualifying.

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    MomSense says:

    @debbie:

    Heh.

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    germy says:

    @Elizabelle:

    But: check out the photo of Ronan Farrow. That is young Frank Sinatra. His exact laughing face

    Definitely! There isn’t a single Woody Allen gene in him.

    A few years back someone asked him if he wasn’t indeed Frank’s kid. His joking reply was something like “Aren’t we all Frank’s kids?”

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    germy says:

    Last Friday, a white dude tried to blow up a plane to “fight a war” in America and no one cared

    He was arrested and he told the arresting officers that his terrorist attack was motivated by his desire to “fight a war on U.S. soil.”

    Why wasn’t this on all the nightly news shows?

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    germy says:

    @Kay:

    Half the Huckabee Family are now working for the Trump Family in the White House. What’s wrong with these people?

    Unemployable anywhere else?

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    Baud says:

    @germy: Just another case of mental illness.

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    p.a. says:

    His actions re: The Central Park 5 show he isn’t morally or tempermentally qualified to hold any office of public trust at any level of government in any civilized country, so fuck every motherfucker in the media who treat him as in any way deserving respect. I’ll make an exception for Dem pols who don’t exhibit utter public contempt for him in an attempt to mitigate the horror of rethug policies to the degree they are able.

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    Duane says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Love is love, Black lifes matter, and aren’t overtaxed are phrases incomprehensible to republicans. I’d be content with “Can’t vote for a crook.” It’s a start.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Oh, he is totally a Sinatra. Don’t even need a 23+me test. Look at his face.

    (That actually makes me quite happy.)

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    Aleta says:

    jeez

    Trump’s ire is being fueled to a surprising degree, by his decision last month to back the losing candidate Luther Strange in the Alabama Republican primary. “Alabama was a huge blow to his psyche,” a person close to Trump said. “He saw the cult of personality was broken.” … According to two sources familiar with the conversation, Trump vented to his longtime security chief, Keith Schiller, “I hate everyone in the White House! There are a few exceptions, but I hate them!” (A White House official denies this.) Two senior Republican officials said Chief of Staff John Kelly … is remaining … to keep Trump from making some sort of disastrous decision. (After Politico reported that Kelly’s deputy Kirstjen Nielsen is likely to be named Homeland Sec Sec) the theory among some Republicans is that Kelly wanted to give her a soft landing before his departure.

    -Vanity Fair

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    J R in WV says:

    DougJ:

    So is it YOU who’s running against “Judge” Moore???

    Nah, just a coincidence, I guess… ;-)

    I kicked in back a month or so ago, right now we can’t because of blurry details, but the day we can I’ll be hitting Mr Jones up with a good donation.

    “Judge” Moore is the slimiest piece of intestine to ever run for federal office, ever.

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    raven says:

    @Aleta: They are on an impeach jihad on Chris Hayes.

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    raven says:

    wtf-k?

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    Baud says:

    @raven: ?

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    raven says:

    @Baud: -k is radio procedure for “over”.

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    Baud says:

    @raven:

    10-4, good buddy.

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    Elizabelle says:

    This thread is rather stale, don’t y’all think?

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    raven says:

    @Elizabelle: hence “what the fuck-over”.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @raven: Cool.

    How is Lil Bit today? Hope she’s having a good one.

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    Mike J says:

    @raven: “-30-” is journalese for eof. So more like “out”.

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    raven says:

    @Elizabelle: Yea, was rooting around message boards and came across this

    1 – raised her food bowls
    2 – keep her cool
    3 – blend her meals into a liquid form (mixed with half hot water from kettle and half bottled water)
    4 – Give her 250-500 mg Ester C
    5 – feed her Standard Process supplements
    6 – Feed her Ayurvedic supplements for her blood flow, digestion, heart etc.
    7 – Give her 100 kisses per day on the head minimum along with belly rubs, sing her songs, and daily walks (only less than 70 degrees – if it is a hot day Ill take her out at night but still get her into the sunlight for Vitamin D)
    8 – Pray for all the dogs that have this condition that they live as long as possible without any pain.
    9 – Keep a calm home environment and give them time to rest and sleep without interruptions – keeping the dog calm keeps the throat nice and relaxed. Also don’t get upset around the dog – as you know our pets seem to own our stuff and this causes them to feel stress also.

    So we’re going to work hard at these tips. I ain’t a prayer person but my bride is all over the kisses!
    eta Actually we won’t be giving her any of those meds. She’s on enough stuff already.

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    Mike J says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I kind of see it.

    Tomorrow while I spend my second day in the jury cage I’ll start writing “Ronan Farrow has a cold.”

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    Jeffro says:

    Meanwhile, with one Cat 5 hurricane after another leveling whole islands and flooding entire metro regions, and dried-out California ablaze nearly from stem to stern…our talking heads can’t get enough of Weinstein-mania…

    …not looking promising for this species, is all I’m saying.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @raven:

    (7) will have benefits for your health, too.

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    raven says:

    @Elizabelle: That’s what the girl says. Lil Bit spends 30 minutes twice a day in my lap while I do her eyes (7 meds 2 minutes apart) so she gets goo-goo from me then.

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    Ruckus says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    “The turd doesn’t fall far from the asshole.”

    I’d really like to be able to take credit for that one. And it does sound like something I’d say. I’d probably have thrown in a couple of fucks for good measure but still it is good.

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    Elizabelle says:

    @Jeffro: I love how the hero of the Weinstein saga is ….. Gretchen Carlson.

    Heard that briefly on CNN HLN today while surfing channels. Gagged, but I guess maybe it’s a subtle way to bring up all the harrassment at Fox News.

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    Elizabelle says:

    Anne Laurie comes to our defense. Fresh thread.

    No pet picture, alas.

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    Another Scott says:

    Donated.

    Go get ’em, DougJ!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    @raven: Wishing you and your bride and LB all the best.

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    randy khan says:

    @Jeffro:

    You left out the hurricane that’s headed to Ireland. (Ophelia, and I want to know why it isn’t going to Denmark. Is there no sense of what’s good and just these days?)

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    mr_gravity says:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: professional courtesy?

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    Aleta says:

    @raven: I think some of them benefit just from feeling the devotion, as the person performs little interventions like the ones you mention. I’ve found that gentlest brushing with a soft toothbrush or other soft thing, on the nose or between the toes, or other tenderest places, raises their spirits, relaxes them…

    eta re: 2 – keep her cool —
    mine also relaxes if I wipe the ears and paw pads with a cool damp cloth. And he doesn’t even like water or wetness.

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    SFAW says:

    @Elizabelle:

    Why did NBC News let the Weinstein blockbuster get away?

    Obviously, it’s because Hitlary TOOK FIVE DAYS to make a statement condemning Weinstein. Which in itself was worse than Benghaziiii!!!! and “her e-mails” combined!

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    Regine Touchon says:

    Thanks guys for giving what you can. Having a grass roots fundraiser for Doug in Lee Country AL. My group Alabama Together came together after Twitter stole the election. We are the resistance.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @danielx:

    Same reasons they keep sending money to the likes of Pat Robertson and Oral Roberts; they are afraid it will make the baby jeebus cry if they don’t. Equally important, he hates the same things they do.

    Yes, it does seem like the Conservative churches condition these people to be suckers.

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    Matt says:

    “He’s lost a step. They don’t want him doing adversarial TV interviews,” the adviser explained.

    DOTARDS GONNA DOTARD

    Good thing there’s no other diplomatic challenges since he can’t even hack tough *questions*…

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