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Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: Interesting Analogy…

by Anne Laurie|  September 21, 20171:59 am| 24 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It), Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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Amazing quote from @ChuckGrassley here: Despite many reasons to oppose Graham-Cassidy, GOP must support it to uphold campaign promises. pic.twitter.com/aLDyl4XhtI

— Jason Noble (@jasonnobleDMR) September 20, 2017

So many of the people voting for this bill probably won't be alive in 2025. It's kinda like a legislative murder-suicide. https://t.co/MPuSsYcaAE

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 20, 2017

This, by @CitizenCohn, could be basis of queries of Repub senators. Cassidy is likely lying to his colleagues https://t.co/dEdvkuN9po

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 20, 2017

… The story Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Bill Cassidy (R-La.) tell about their legislation during speeches and news conferences is a straightforward, seemingly innocuous one ― that they are simply transferring money and authority away from the federal government.

To their colleagues in the Senate, Graham and Cassidy make a different, more nuanced pitch. With key Republicans nervous about what the bill would mean for coverage of their constituents, Graham and Cassidy are promising the vast majority of Republican states would end up with more money, not less, if the proposal becomes law.

The story Graham and Cassidy are telling the public is a vast over-simplification, one that leaves out the bill’s most important elements. And the story they are peddling to colleagues? That’s even more misleading…

Good chance, BTW, that even _Cassidy_ doesn't know what his bill would do, or how.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 20, 2017

ETA:

We asked 9 Republican senators to explain what Graham-Cassidy does, and who it helps. The answers are…something. https://t.co/FWsjzJPpZF pic.twitter.com/O6ewdIIwaL

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) September 20, 2017

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  1. 1.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 21, 2017 at 2:03 am

    Good chance, BTW, that even _Cassidy_ doesn’t know what his bill would do, or how.

    I put that at about 20%, which is still awful high.

    I mean look at the guy, he’s an idiot.

    I’m drawing a bored young man getting berated by a ghost, how are y’all?

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 21, 2017 at 2:16 am

    Cassidy looks a bit like some brainiac alien from Marvel Comics.

    Of course, there is no brainiac there to speak of.

  3. 3.

    hellslittlestangel

    September 21, 2017 at 2:34 am

    @Major Major Major Major: Considering what he did to Jimmy Kimmel, he’s more of a rotten, heartless motherfucker than an idiot. Some idiots are likeable.

  4. 4.

    Major Major Major Major

    September 21, 2017 at 2:40 am

    @hellslittlestangel: Some people are both, too.

  5. 5.

    lamh36

    September 21, 2017 at 2:42 am

    [email protected] goes **off** on @kilmeade: “I don’t get anything out of this, Brian, you phony little creep.”

    https://twitter.com/sopandeb/status/910716214292426752

  6. 6.

    opiejeanne

    September 21, 2017 at 3:06 am

    @Major Major Major Major: I’m good, although having the pump replaced on our septic system set us back about a grand. It’s no fair; I’d rather have spent that money on fun stuff.

    I need to revisit your comic strip soon. Enjoyed it last time I took a look.

  7. 7.

    StringOnAStick

    September 21, 2017 at 3:06 am

    We’ve spent the last week hiking in Austria with a British tour company and a diverse group of Brits. They all agree that the US health care system is insane and cruel. They’re too nice to say it but they whole heartedly agreed that the US is the world’s best example of rapacious capitalism and the forced march to the new feudalism.

    Not too many complaints about their national health service other than thinking people should pay a nominal fee for services to help funding a bit and reduce over use by the bored and lonely. I’ve heard this from Poles too about their system. Even the lowest level workers here have an easy way about them due to the better social safety net that is so absent in say airport maintenance workers. Here they laugh a bit and get on with their work, in the US they look desperate and afraid. Once again we are wishing we had immigrated to Canada or Europe while we were still young enough to be accepted.

  8. 8.

    opiejeanne

    September 21, 2017 at 3:10 am

    @lamh36: That was delightful. I didn’t realize it before but I LOVE Mr Kimmel.

  9. 9.

    Mel

    September 21, 2017 at 3:19 am

    @Major Major Major Major: I’m working on a bead embroidered cuff bracelet. I started out with a very Deco piece in mind, and had sketched and then blocked the design onto the wool base, but it has a mind of its own and didn’t want to cooperate. After several false starts, I just decided to roll with it, and go wherever it wanted to take me. Now it has a very Baroque look to it, with a little nod to high Victorian in the work surrounding the central stone.
    Quilting, jewelry, writing – it becomes what it really wants to be, despite my best laid plans, I think – often for the better.

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    September 21, 2017 at 3:37 am

    @Major Major Major Major

    You have now become your own ghost writer.

  11. 11.

    Bruce K

    September 21, 2017 at 4:24 am

    Crap, I think I just twigged to why this repeal push scares me more than the last few: the bastards are desperate. There’s that threat of losing untold millions in Koch money for their campaigns if they don’t get it done, and if I read right, if it’s not done by September 30, they can’t use the reconciliation trick to bypass the Dems, so they’re in a position that they need to do something, anything, or they lose millions.

    That completes the trifecta that scares me most about dangerous evil people: smart, unscrupulous, desperate. (McConnell’s the one I fear most, because he’s all three.) That combination means you’ve got to be ready for them to do anything – a nominally stupid course of action because they’re desperate, one without considerations of morality because they’re unscrupulous, and the smart ones just may figure out a way to make it work.

  12. 12.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2017 at 4:36 am

    When Pat Roberts was talking about being in the back seat of the car driven by Thelma and Louise headed for the canyon, I figured he meant Graham and Cassidy as Thelma and Louise, and their bill as the car.

    But apparently he means Obamacare is the car. I’d love to ask him, WTF is he talking about? Because while sure, Obamacare could use the tweaks and fine-tuning that any big, complicated new program could use in its first few years (and which the GOP has prevented), Obamacare even without those tweaks would probably continue to do OK for quite some time as long as the GOP doesn’t sabotage it.

  13. 13.

    Some Dude

    September 21, 2017 at 6:14 am

    I know someone who would not be alive if not for the ACA. This person hates Obama, and has griped about how piss poor of a President he was; also believes that ‘Obamacare’ was the name the Democrats gave it, to boost his popularity. If this monster of a ‘health care’ bill passes, I don’t think many Trump supporters will be wishing for ‘Obamacare’ to return, but they will surely be missing the insurance their lives depend on. Somehow, Fox will put the blame on (former) President Obama….

  14. 14.

    Tokyokie

    September 21, 2017 at 6:17 am

    So in other words, the GOP is pretty much admitting that their entire raison d’être the last several years is an evil murderous lie, but they feel honor-bound to follow through on it.

  15. 15.

    evodevo

    September 21, 2017 at 6:46 am

    @Tokyokie: And your point is??? (LOL)

  16. 16.

    trnc

    September 21, 2017 at 6:53 am

    Amazing quote from @ChuckGrassley here: Despite many reasons to oppose Graham-Cassidy, GOP must support it to uphold campaign promises.

    “Even though those promises were built on lies?”
    My proposed response from a fantasy journalist.

  17. 17.

    Tokyokie

    September 21, 2017 at 7:19 am

    @evodevo: I keep coming back to an exchange between Ernie Borgnine and Bill Holden in The Wild Bunch:

    Dutch: He gave his word to a railroad.
    Pike: It’s his word.
    Dutch: That ain’t what counts! It’s who you give it to!

    To them, the promise is more important than the effect and the circumstances of said promise, because breaking it makes them look like the amoral bastards they are. And we can’t have that. Too bad they don’t have the cojones to take on the Kochopolus in an epic, bloody gunbattle that nobody survives, but then the murderous bastards in The Wild Bunch were a lot more honorable and likable than today’s Republicans.

  18. 18.

    trnc

    September 21, 2017 at 7:21 am

    “Four of our states are getting a disproportionate amount of money from health care now,” Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) said. The bill, he added, “wouldn’t cut Alabama.” (Numbers from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities suggest Alabama would receive more than $1 billion in additional funding under the bill, but most states would see big cuts.)

    If Alabama wants federal $ for health care now, why don’t they just take the medicaid expansion?

  19. 19.

    Lurking Canadian

    September 21, 2017 at 7:42 am

    @trnc: That’s the part that a decent media would hammer them on. Yes, the blue states are getting a “disproportionate” amount of money, but that’s because the red states fucking turned it down!

    If Mississippi had taken the Medicare expansion, they’d probably be the ones getting the “disproportionate” share of Medicaid money, as compared to New York & California because of a combination of poverty and long-term health problems finally being addressed.

    I guess I can see why they’re using the “States Rights” spin: it’s all they’ve got. But they shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.

  20. 20.

    dr. luba

    September 21, 2017 at 8:27 am

    @trnc:

    If Alabama wants federal $ for health care now, why don’t they just take the medicaid expansion?

    Perhaps because that money might have to be sent on non-white individuals? As opposed to block grants which the state can spend at its discretion.

  21. 21.

    gratuitous

    September 21, 2017 at 8:52 am

    “Holy socks, this is serious! Gentlemen! We’ve gotta protect our phoney-baloney jobs!”

    If you’re familiar with that movie scene, you understand the Graham-Cassidy bill. One other thing to note is how interchangeable the sponsoring names are, almost as if even the authors don’t want top billing on this shit sundae.

  22. 22.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 21, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Ah, so the Health Care Pixies are back. The heath care pixies are so much better than Obamacare, BUT, you can’t see them or they go away!

    So what is the story, 45% of the population of this country is gullible rubes?

  23. 23.

    bemused

    September 21, 2017 at 11:10 am

    @Some Dude:

    How sad and delusional is that!! He truly doesn’t realize he’d be dead without ACA? I swear these people are cultists.

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