Billy, keep your head low

The next Senator from the great state of Alabama

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    Raoul says:

    So the bathrooms belong to who in that sentence?

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    Baud says:

    Alabama Juicers say Doug Jones has a shot. I don’t know, but what a political earthquake that would be.

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    Doug! says:


    I’ll do plenty o’fundraising for him.

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    Baud says:

    @Doug!: I know. You’re a good man.

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    dr. bloor says:

    Ted Cruz is rooting for Moore in the same way that Millard Fillmore and W were rooting for Trump.

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    Yutsano says:

    @Baud: If the Democrats can get enough folks around the voter suppression rules…it might happen. But honestly if Jones wins there’s no reason the Senate can’t be a total bloodbath for the Republicans. Hell maybe even Machin might keep his job.

    (Is it just me or am I strangely not worried about Heitkamp? Or is she bailing for gov for sure?)

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    Baud says:

    @Yutsano: Don’t know. Haven’t heard anything about her situation.

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    Roger Moore says:


    But honestly if Jones wins there’s no reason the Senate can’t be a total bloodbath for the Republicans.

    It would also critically narrow their margin for things like ACA repeal and tax cuts. 51-49 is notably tighter than 52-48.

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    debbie says:

    Dotard supports Strange; Bannon, Palin, etc. support Moore. This may be interesting, especially if Dotard is on the losing side.

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    1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio) says:

    I just want to say that I would be happy to share my bathroom with any active-duty, reserve, discharged, or retired trans members of the US armed forces. They’ll have to deal with the cats not believing in closed doors, though.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    When is the election?

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    JPL says:

    Where did they go to the bathroom before? Asking for a friend.

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    NotMax says:

    As good a Christian as Dolt 45 is a president.

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    LurkerNoLonger says:

    Jesus fucking Christ with this bathroom shit! (no pun intended) Who fucking thinks about public bathrooms this much?! When I’m in a public bathroom I try to get in and out as quick as possible. I’m not studying the genitals or facial features of the other people in there to determine what their true gender is.

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    efgoldman says:

    Ordinarily I’d think that Judge Moore is to woo even to get elected, like Akins in MO and the chicken lady in NV. But in Alabama? Statewide? I’ll be surprised if he loses.

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    mai naem mobile says:

    Yertle would have a real explosion in his pants if Doug Jones wins.

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    Lyrebird says:

    @LurkerNoLonger: Yeah I don’t get the obsessors either. I guess they must not be traditional bathroom fetishists, because if they were, they would know about this MARVELOUS technology known as the STALL! And of course for people who want to wear them, there’s an even older device known as a SKIRT!!!! Both of these amazing inventions obscure the private parts and shield them even from the prying eyes of vindictive legislators.

    I wish we could just construct new toilets and label them “WC” (“water closet” – what they are called in France) and be done with it.

    For people who need a reason to smile and believe in decent humans after reading this post, try these videos from the Center for Trans Equality. Google helped and gets promoted a tad, but the people featured in the video, incl at least one veteran, are just lovely people. (ETA “lovely” not about attractiveness to me, about human beings that restore your faith in human beings)

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    chris says:

    @Lyrebird: Favourite bathroom sign: Whatever, just wash your hands after.

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    JPL says:

    Strange and Moore would vote the same way so does it really matter?

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    TenguPhule says:


    Who fucking thinks about public bathrooms this much?!

    Republicans, Evangelicals, Child Molesters.

    But I repeat myself.

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    Gvg says:

    @LurkerNoLonger: old people I am afraid. Like my liberal parents in their 70’s always vote democrats, but think that the party made a mistake “spending too much time on the bathroom issue”. Did not listen when I pointed out we didn’t start it. Also think Hillary should have known better than to talk to Wall Street etc. rather shocked me but they retired over a decade ago and I think they haven’t met enough new people since. I work on a big University campus and read academic progress petitions all day which is what is going on that made you do poorly and is it extenuating, with documents. It keeps exposing me to many different emotional lives. Parents also still listen to TV news (not fox but still) and read the NYT. They are real liberals though, so we do need to pay some attention. Not everyone on our side is protective of…newer types of persecuted. My parents came of age defending black civil rights and women and got comfortable with gays over the years but I don’t think they have stretched beyond that. Just assume some of our side are maybe where you were 10 or 20 years ago as opposed to being from the 50’s or 1860 or the Middle Ages like republican’s.

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    Peale says:

    @LurkerNoLonger: because they can’t imagine a transgendered person who isn’t also a pervert. Just like they can’t imagine a homosexual who isn’t a child molester.

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    Who wants to set the pool up for when Roy Moore gets caught with a dead male stripper in his bedroom and what color wetsuit he (Moore) will be wearing when it happens?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    O/T. Rachel just said that all fifty state Medicare directors have come out against Graham Cassidy.

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    catclub says:

    isn’t there an Amendment to the constitution that forbids quartering trans soldiers in our bathrooms already?

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    PhoenixRising says:

    @catclub: winner ding ding ding!

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    “transgender troops in our bathrooms”

    Where’s Roy been hanging out lately? And are there any tickets left?

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    FlipYrWhig says:

    @Peale: It’s even stupider than that. The thing they think will happen is that perverts will PRETEND to be trans to have easier access to bathrooms where they can be creepy, because a creeper man will put on a dress and say when he’s told he’s making people uncomfortable, “but I’m trans, you can’t throw me out!” And somehow the solution to this supposed thing that could happen is forcing people to use the bathroom designated for their sex assigned at birth, even though that would make it MORE LIKELY for someone who presents to the world as male to show up in a bathroom with a woman sign on it. It’s beyond stupid and takes like 10 seconds to dismiss. Which is why it’s galvanizing morons all over the country.

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    @Peale: Exactly. Although they’re generally only scare-mongering against trans women (because we’re actually men in dresses doncha know). //

    Also it’s part of coordinated effort by the Talibaptist to legislatively harass us out of existence — it’s literally point #3 of a 5-point plan. I’m dead serious, see:

    In earlier years, I avoided using public bathrooms out of fears about someone causing a scene. And yes, holding it in could be painful and problematic.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Sister Golden Bear: This may be ignorant on my part, and, if so, I apologize, but if you present as female how would anyone know? I have trans friends who present as far more female than some of my lesbian friends (some of whom are far more butch than I am),

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    @Omnes Omnibus: No worries.

    Like many trans women who weren’t blessed by the androgyny fairy, I’m much taller and stockier than a “typical” woman, with big hands and feet. Albeit when I went to Kansas City earlier this year, there were a number of women with similar builds, likely because they also were of German heritage.

    Thankfully, my Adam’s Apple is hidden by a protective layer of fat — but that can be another “tell” for some of my sisters. I am lucky to not have had a particularly masculine face — and it looks far more feminine thanks to hair transplants (to create a rounded hairline) as well as undergoing what’s called “facial feminization surgery” (I’m fortunate to be able to afford both procedures.)

    So there are “tells” that can tip people off that I’m probably trans if they know what they’re looking for.

    So these days I’m not particularly worried, even if I still get occasionally misgendered. Particularly in light of the tremendous social changes during the past few years. Even 10 years ago — when I first started going on in public — things were very different, even in the Bay Area.

    But honestly it doesn’t matter what you look like if the Talibapists get in your head — which is more the point of the bathroom bills anyway. Quite an experience to live in fear, isn’t it.

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    Peale says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think when we think of “public” restrooms, our definition is clouded by the idea of having to pee in the ballpark or stop at the rest stop on a road trip, where everyone is unknown. But public restrooms include the one in your grade school where everyone knows who you are, or your office, or the local restaurant where people aren’t strangers. But a person who isn’t a stranger isn’t necessarily a friend.

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    @Omnes Omnibus: Also cisgender butch women do occasionally get gender policed in public bathrooms (and even thrown out of them). There was a rather famous case a couple years ago involving a butch women who was thrown out of a restaurant in NYC’s West Village (during Pride weekend no less) by a bouncer who insisted she was using the “wrong” bathroom, even after she showed him ID.

    Just yesterday, a cisgender woman in Cleveland was threatened by a couple with a gun, who insisted that she show them her vagina to prove she wasn’t transgender:

    So yeah, gender policing is real, and affects more than just trans people.

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    Barney says:

    Don’t worry, he just said “transistor troops in our bathrooms“.

    It’s not as if this dolt has been given any responsibility, like being a judge or something …

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    I think this is where we conclude that Neil Young, from Canada, understood Alabama better than Lynyrd Skynyrd understood their own state.

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    low-tech cyclist says:

    A friend of mine’s a transman, and looking at him, you’d have no idea he started off life as a girl. If he walked into the women’s restroom, people would get quite upset because what’s that man doing, using the women’s restroom, but that’s what Moore and his legion of idiots are demanding.

    IOW, they’re demanding the very thing they say they’re afraid of – men in the women’s bathrooms.

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