#NewYork 10 #sharks seized from basement pool https://t.co/9TPA7v42M9 pic.twitter.com/eo5rVlFwp0
— Dayton Daily News (@daytondailynews) September 7, 2017
NBC New York has the details:
Seven live sharks and three dead ones have been seized from a pool in the basement of a home in the Hudson Valley.
Officers searching a home in the Dutchess County hamlet of LaGrangeville last month found a 15-foot-diameter aboveground basement pool with seven live sandbar sharks, two dead leopard sharks and one dead hammerhead shark, officials said Wednesday.
All the sharks were 2 feet to 4 feet long, according to the state Department of Environmental Conservation.
Marine wildlife experts took blood samples and measured and tagged the sharks before transferring them to the Long Island Aquarium in a truck equipped with water tanks, oxygen and climate control.
Adam L Silverman
Just in case:
rikyrah
SHARKS?
DA PHUQ?
Adam L Silverman
@rikyrah: LAO’s parents had no comment when I inquired earlier today…
Adam L Silverman
For anyone wondering, Irma has moved due west, rather than west, northwest. Approximately 1/2 the eye is over Cuba at this point. If it continues west, rather than turning northwest, it’ll continue over Cuba, which will bear the brunt of the storm. I’m not sure anyone has any good idea what this thing is going to do.
Captain Oblivious
The only New Yorkers who regard Dutchess County as “upstate” are residents of NYC.
Davebo
An above ground pool in a basement?
In upstate New York?
Speechless.
Adam L Silverman
Also, Port Tampa is now closed. Approximately 40% of all gasoline comes into Florida through Port Tampa. It’ll will remain shut until the threat from Irma has passed. I topped up my Lexus hybrid about 2 hours ago – took all of 1.081 gallons (I’d driven 50 miles since I’d filled up on Tuesday night) – and the Thortons tanker had just pulled in to refill.
Adam L Silverman
@Captain Oblivious: I merely report what was in the news report.
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman: What about the rumor that FEMA is running reeducation camps? Does FEMA deny that?
Captain Oblivious
@Adam L Silverman: Let’s hope this weakens it, but the Keys are still going to get hammered.
I live in Pasco County, which is the next county north of St Pete. I’m in a Flood A zone and under mandatory evaculation orders. My sisters are in C, not under orders. But they have an old house with a weak roof. We’re going to decide after the 5am advisory whether to hit the road.
Davebo
@Adam L Silverman:
I’ve got 9 cases of bottled water (24 bottles each), 6 1 gallon bottles and a full tank of gas PLUS 50 gallons in an aux tank with a pump in my truck. Didn’t need it for Harvey. Wish I could share it with Tampa.
Davebo
@Captain Oblivious: Thinking it’s going to be too late by then.
Ian G.
@Captain Oblivious: Everything north of Rockland/Westchester is Upstate NY. Sorry. People in Poughkeepsie don’t say “water” or “dog” the way people in Nassau County do. Hence, upstate.
Ian G.
@Captain Oblivious:
Stay safe, and good luck!
Sandy was scary as hell and wasn’t even a Category 1 when it made landfall. I can’t imagine what this thing is going to be like.
rikyrah
Has Betty Cracker checked in? How’s she doing?
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: ah modern times… glad they thought to do this
Gin & Tonic
I wonder why the authorities were searching his home.
gene108
Watching House Hunters and man in the couple shopping for a home wants lots of acreage and no neighbors. The wife wants to live in a normal subdivision.
I don’t understand the guy.
Why do you want to live without neighbors?
I mean, if something happens no one is around to inform you. I just think it would be lonely.
Mnemosyne
Poor sharks. I actually like them. We have a deal — I stay out of their ocean, and they stay off my land unless they’re safely behind glass in a certified aquarium. It seems to be working so far.
debbie
What are they looking to find in blood samples?
Jeffro
Btw re-watching the Chiefs sloppily take out the Patriots and to the rest of the league all I can say is you’re welcome !!
Davebo
I feel horrible for all my Floridian friends and hope things aren’t as bad as they seem but…
Florida Man + Massive Hurricane will produce some fabulous videos.
rikyrah
Sam BakerVerified account @sam_baker
One hundred percent of my brain is still on fire over how insane it is that MAX BAUCUS is for single-payer now
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: I am not authorized to comment on this at this time…
Adam L Silverman
@Captain Oblivious: I’m a bit south of you. If you need something reach out. I can be contacted using the drop down contact a front pager tool at the top right of the page.
Adam L Silverman
@Davebo: No it won’t. The earliest, provided it stays anywhere close to the 5 PM track, you’ll have time to get out if you leave tomorrow AM.
The Pale Scot
Adam,
I recommending getting some pool chlorine if you have one. I drove down to Punta Gorda because Charley was headed toward Tampa. OPPS! We didn’t get power for week and the pool would have been a fucking godsend if it wasn’t contaminated.
Davebo
Looking at Windy.com by 1700 Sunday all of south Florida is going to be hating life. Especially Miami.
Staring at what will likely be half a trillion dollars in hurricane relief between Harvey and Irma what are Republicans talking about?
Tax cuts. Because they are deficit hawks after all.
Mary G
Praying for all of you eastern Juicers. It’s scary to watch from this side of the country.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Knowing NY the sharks had magazines that held more than 10 rounds of ammunition.//
Steeplejack (phone)
@rikyrah:
Follow her on Twitter.
Davebo
Also. Outlander Ad with autostart and audio. Cleanup on aisle 3.
Adam L Silverman
@The Pale Scot: I don’t have a pool. I do have plain bleach.
Captain Oblivious
@Davebo: traffic is slow but moving on I-75 and US-19. I haven’t checked US-41, which is another option. And we plan to stay on the road and rotate drivers until we get to Maryland, except for pit stops. We know it will be a slog, but we should be able to outrun it. It’s a slow-moving storm.
Davebo
@Captain Oblivious: Fair winds and following seas.
Hope you all come out safely.
Steeplejack (phone)
@gene108:
Different strokes, etc.
Mnemosyne
@Captain Oblivious:
For Chicagoans, anyplace outside of Cook County is “downstate,” including stuff that’s north of the city.
Gin & Tonic
I’m due to fly BOS-CLT-SFO on Sunday afternoon. Hope this doesn’t fuck that up. I chose the connecting flight because the BOS-SFO non-stop got me in after midnight PDT, and I didn’t want that. But if NC is fucked, then I may never get to SFO.
Oh, well, nothing I can do about it.
Captain Oblivious
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks Adam.
efgoldman
@Gin & Tonic:
Daughter returned from business trip today, SFO-DC/Dulles. The last flight SFO-Orlando went out just before her flight. Local news also found people taking the last flight PVD-MCO today. All are wondering why anyone is traveling in that direction.
CaseyL
@Steeplejack (phone): Betty hasn’t updated in a while; they’re probably still busy with storm prep.
Irma’s path is now expected to be a bit west of earlier extrapolations. I’m not sure how much difference that makes to Florida, since the storm is wider than the whole state.
Stay safe, everyone!
Suffragette City
All you FL peeps be safe. Or grow fins! Seriously I hope all come through this ok.
rikyrah
@Steeplejack (phone):
thanks
rikyrah
Did I miss the official United States statement of sympathy for those who were victims of the Mexican earthquake?
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
Y’all are too scared of sharks.
My shark dive from Osprey Reef, off York Peninsula, QLD in May, 2017. We were past the GBR, halfway to Papua New Guinea.
Lots of sharks, that trip. Greys, Black Tip Reefs, White Tips, Hammers. Just have to be aware.
Waratah
@gene108: because it is peaceful. There are still neighbors just not close.
EricNNY
@Captain Oblivious: This is correct.
Steve in the ATL
@Jeffro:
We will never agree on what you misrepresent as barbecue, but the residents of my fair city thank you for this!
Mary G
@rikyrah: For Trump’s administration, death and destruction of brown people are a feature, not a bug. I would bet big money that there will be no hurricane relief for Puerto Rico.
FlyingToaster
@efgoldman:
That’s easy. Family who can’t move themselves.
If my mom’s power near Ft. Myers (inland, thank goodness) is going to stay off longer than a week, I’ll have to fly down, help her shut the house and drive her to an open airport to send her to my sister in the midwest. This is worst case scenario — Wilma had the power out for seven days, but it was ‘way cooler. And if Jose doesn’t turn, we’ll have a limited window of when I can get her the hell outta there.
rikyrah
Sarah KliffVerified account @sarahkliff
Trump has quietly let Obamacare’s entire outreach budget lapse, causing lost jobs and confusion.
gene108
@Adam L Silverman:
I for the life of me do not know how people on these islands manage. They take the brunt of hurricanes, don’t have enough land for the storm to slow down, and have nowhere inland to evacuate to.
They just rebuild to have it knocked down again.
Steve in the ATL
@Gin & Tonic:
I’ll see that and raise you ATL-PBI
PsiFighter37
Seems like Irma is heading further west than anticipated (based on NYT’s map). At this rate it’s possible that Miami will be spared hurricane-force winds. Big change from yesterday, when the projection was for the eye of the storm to be right over the city…
Gin & Tonic
@Steve in the ATL: Yeah, uh, you’re not flying that this Sunday.
Captain Oblivious
@rikyrah:
WH Advisor: There was an 8.2 earthquake in Mexico, Mr President. At least 60 people have been killed.
Drumpf: 8.2? That’s huge, right?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yes, but you’re a lawyer, professional courtesy and all.
Mayim
@gene108:
Half the time, I live in my family’s lakeside house in western Maine. Nearest neighbor is a good 3 or 4 minute walk along a dirt road {next nearest is across the lake}. It’s wonderful ~ this introvert is more than happy to retreat to her little piece of woods.
The rest of the time, I’m in an apartment near work in a small city on Maine’s coast ~ and it’s so strange to be able to hear other people when I am sitting in my living room and have the windows open {although it’s a quiet neighborhood overall}. But I can [almost] see the ocean from the window and I can walk to work, so I tolerate the proximity of other people.
seaboogie
What a weird story. And what makes me happy about it is that there are experts with capability and technical backup to address this – instead of looking at this strange situation and scratching their heads saying “Huh – well, whaddya know?”.
Jeffro
@Steve in the ATL: yer welcome!
Adam L Silverman
@Captain Oblivious: You’re welcome.
Major Major Major Major
Seems like the heat wave left right when I got back to town; the fog has returned from Burning Man.
As nice a night as any to stay in and hang some art and draw some ghosts.
Adam L Silverman
@CaseyL: Right now the track has shifted again to account for the fact that Irma didn’t just go west in the past couple of hours, but southwest. The eye is now partially on shore in Cuba. Right now, amazingly, Miami, Broward, and Palm Beach counties are out of the cone and free and clear – as of right now.
So now comes the questions as to what does this thing do? Does it keep plowing southwest over Cuba? Does it come back to due west? Does it finally begin to turn northwest? Or north? Or northeast? These are the questions right now. I’ve been watching the local meteorologist on the 24/7 news station, Bay News 9, and he’s been very good about saying that even with the National Hurricane Center guidance, from looking at the actual movement, he’s really not sure where this thing is going to go. We’ll know more in the morning.
seaboogie
@Steeplejack (phone): If you are in the mood to put up some tunes tonight, I wouldn’t object.
Adam L Silverman
@Suffragette City: I’m quickly trying to evolve gills.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: Will that do you much good if you’re unconscious from a bump on the head? Might wanna go for fins instead.
Adam L Silverman
@gene108: It is home. Also, Cuba is a dictatorship and they shoot you if they catch you trying to leave.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: If I’m underwater, or face down in water, yes.
seaboogie
@Adam L Silverman: Memories of sitting in the bathroom with my dog and cat and food for all of us during a big tropical storm in Miami (back wall of townhouse was all sliding glass doors) – on a Doral golf course.
Betcha a significant portion of south FL is going to be hanging out in the ‘loo when Irma hits. Onliest place with no windows, or tiny ones.
Omnes Omnibus
@seaboogie: I am not Steep, but I am willing to kick off.
Mnemosyne
This seems like as good a thread as any to start alerting the jackals that I won’t be around much next week — I’m heading to a writing retreat on Sunday and I’m going to try and minimize my non-writing time. Try not to let Trump start any wars while I’m gone, k?
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: There was some woman in Seattle who just got off of a cruise ship this evening. She’s trying to fly home to Miami. She has to go home so that her husband and her kids can then evacuate. because they can’t possibly do so until she gets home.
I was yelling at the tv, telling her to tell the family to evacuate NOW; she can catch up with them later. We do have nice hotels in Seattle where she can wait it out.
Beth Hanson
@Omnes Omnibus: Thank yew! Listening now…
Adam L Silverman
@seaboogie: Yep. Is that course now known as Trump Doral?
seaboogie
@Beth Hanson: whoops! Replied on my phone and realized my name came up instead of my nym. Thank goodness my life is so uneventful that I cannot be googled.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Tonight’s theme? Or too obvious?
Omnes Omnibus
Gladys?
seaboogie
@Adam L Silverman: Yes, that one. I lived briefly on what was then known as the “Silver” course. I think the main one was called the Blue course, but that has surely been gilded by now – with what they saved from paying the painters.
Adam L Silverman
@seaboogie:
And before anyone says anything: I am not Emily Bett Rickards. Nor am I Felicity Smoak.
sukabi
Here’s a bit of a diversion, it made me lol.
Guess who’s making his case for President in 2020?
Omnes Omnibus
@seaboogie: You are lucky. Some of us would lead to lurid stories. Lurid, I tell you. Not me of course. Some of us.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: Are gills passive? I thought they were active, like lungs.
Omnes Omnibus
Fall Back Down.
Adam L Silverman
@seaboogie: Tracking.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Atlanteans have to sleep sometime, right?
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: But could you be Louise Mensch?
seaboogie
@Omnes Omnibus: Heh. Love the Gladys post. There was a brief time in my youth when I imagined having my own personal “Pips” singing backup to my life as a musical. Actual life has knocked the stuffing out of that.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: I hope to someone’s, anyone’s Deity – or no one’s Deity for the atheists here, or Deities for the pantheists NO!
It’s kind of sad. RVA Wonk is the real deal. Mensch just gloms on to her. She tried it with The Jester and he hurt her feelings. Now she’s publicly accusing him of working for Russian intelligence.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: I thought we were still pretending they didn’t exist.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: It’s late, and I saw “Deities for pantsuits” and got confused. I should probably rack out.
Omnes Omnibus
@seaboogie: Everyone deserves their own metaphorical Pips (except fascists of course). Lurid. ;-)
Adam L Silverman
I’ll just leave this here:
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: How’s your wing?
seaboogie
@Adam L Silverman: Lemme know when you decide to “rack out”. Heh. Do you remember that thread when everyone was using “Adam-isms?” That was the best fond tweaking of our cherished you.
We are keeping you and Betty and all of the rooster burritos in our hearts during this storm.
ETA: Gin and Tonic beat me to it.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: I’ve had a long day hurricane prepping and proofing the house. OPSEC was bound to slip a bit.
Aleta
Fwiw, from Wapo.
This story will be updated throughout Friday. It was last updated to incorporate the 11 p.m. National Hurricane Center advisory as well as new model information, suggesting Florida’s west coast is most at risk.
Computer model information late Friday afternoon and evening suggested a track up Florida’s west coast was becoming most likely, though shifts were possible. The Florida Keys, Naples, Fort Myers, and Tampa, could all be severely impacted although the Hurricane Center said “it is extremely difficult to pinpoint exactly where the center might move onshore.”
Irrespective of the storm’s exact track, hurricane-force winds could blast most if not all of the Florida peninsula.
“Irma is likely to make landfall in Florida as a dangerous major hurricane, and will bring life-threatening wind impacts to much of the state regardless of the exact track of the center,” the National Hurricane Center said.
The Hurricane Center had hoisted hurricane warnings for much of South and Central Florida on both coasts. Hurricane watches extended somewhat further north on both sides of the peninsula.
A storm-surge warning was also issued for much of the South and Central Florida coastline because of the potential for water to rise up to 6 to 12 feet above normally dry land at the coast. The Hurricane Center said this would bring the risk of “dangerous” and “life-threatening” inundation and that the threat was highest along Florida’s southwest coast.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: That’s two of us. Gonna lie down, give the dogs some attention – they’ve been great today will all the tumult around the house, and then get some sleep.
Feathers
@efgoldman: There was a family on the TV news in Boston heading to Orlando, because they weren’t going to miss their Disney vacation. Dad looked like that clueless asshole from your office, and the kids seemed excited and smug. I was looking at the TV, thinking about all the people who would be needing to deal with their own shit having to look out for these Massholes. I am certain they voted for Trump. Probably listened to the whole Limbaugh hoax thing. Argh!!!
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: There are reasons I live in Wisconsin. Stay safe, you crazy diamonds.
Adam L Silverman
@seaboogie: I’m shortly for bed.
Mike J
@Gin & Tonic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbsTMkttmWM
Adam L Silverman
@Feathers: Disney, and the other major attractions in Orlando, are all closed or will be closing in sequences through tomorrow night.
Omnes Omnibus
@seaboogie:
Rational military speak.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: You can’t get enough of Scott Walker and David Clarke?
More seriously, I understand. If my work wasn’t here right now I wouldn’t be in Florida. My preference is farther north. Hopefully an opportunity farther north will break and I can once again get out of Florida.
Omnes Omnibus
Sinead as Eva Peron.
seaboogie
@Adam L Silverman: Ruv you, and Cheryl Rofer too. You are both so capable and informative, and you follow your threads and reply. Anyway, I know you have a plan and will stay safe.
sukabi
@Adam L Silverman: gee, you’d think that a person who has that much invested in coastal sea level properties would be a tiny bit interested in the effects of climate change.
Give you one guess who’s gonna be first in line for fema $$…
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: I’ve begun light strengthening. First eval showed me at about 50% of the non-dominant side. My therapist thinks that’s pretty good. I don’t.
But my surgeon’s away at a conference this week, so hasn’t had a chance to evaluate the CT scan. Pre-CT, the big shot I saw in NYC last week thought I was making pretty good progress, although some of the fragments may never join up.
It’s been a long road.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J: Sometimes you have to go to the source.
Mnemosyne
@Feathers:
Disney World is closed until Monday. All they’ll get to do is sit around their hotel room, possibly with evacuations to safer areas of the hotel.
Gin & Tonic
@Mike J: Last one from me.
FlyingToaster
@Feathers: These are the assholes who block the box during rush hour. And try to take rental trucks down Storrow and Mem Drive. Eventually they fail to make it here and move up to New Hamster where its “affordable” (until their house is foreclosed because of the property tax lien).
Disney announced YESTERDAY that they’d be closing for the storm. All the airlines followed JetBlue in waiving change fees. Are these people idiots? Don’t answer — I know, Massholes. I live here, and I drive like one, except for the abovementioned sins, which deserve elimination by drone-delivered short range particle beam.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I’ve been being emo support for someone who broke her ankle in February – the kind of break that caused orthopods to call others in to say, ” Look at this. Holy shit:” She is walking without cane or brace most of the time now. But setbacks happen.
TL;DR: It’s a bitch.
Mnemosyne
@FlyingToaster:
And yet it’s so much fun to watch a Disney-trained person tell those people to eff off, followed by the required, “Have a magical day!”
Gin & Tonic
@FlyingToaster: Once lived near the Mem Drive-Mass Ave underpass. There’s no mistaking (and no forgetting) the sound of a high-box rental truck failing to make it under.
efgoldman
@Feathers:
We don’t get Boston local news, but I saw the story on NECN this morning.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, she posted a couple of times here the other night.
Omnes Omnibus
@Feathers: My ex worked in private aviation catering during Katrina. She had people on private jets who were leaving NOLA ahead of the storm who were complaining that the caterers got the wrong brand of champagne.
FlyingToaster
@Gin & Tonic: We just made it through our first Allston XMas without a Storrowing. I think they must have had Staties on every ramp going onto Storrow.
They missed the lost Stop&Shop driver, however…
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Yeah, she chose a night when I was missing to make her triumphant return. There will be a conversation.
Omnes Omnibus
Formation.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I had a nasty cyst on my forehead about 10 years ago. I finally took the time to get an appointment with a dermatologist.
He walked in the room, took one look at my forehead, and stopped dead. The first thing he said was, “Wow, that looks like it really hurts!”
Somehow I tend to end up with doctors who have no tact. The orthopedist who repaired my knee pointed to the MRI and said, “You see that little ball of goo there? That used to be your ACL.”
Omnes Omnibus
Townes.
frosty
@Mnemosyne:
True. I will never forget the response of the oncologist for my wife when I said that maybe we ought to get a second opinion:
“To what end?”
PS That was 18 years ago and everything turned out OK..
Omnes Omnibus
Squeeze?
GregB
When I heard the words cone of uncertainty, I thought it was a reference to Trump’s head.
Be safe and smart all you Floridiots!
Anne Laurie
@debbie:
Late to the party, but a trained marine biologist can find all sorts of useful health information from a blood sample. If the sharks are going to another home, presumably at a sanctioned aquarium, first it has to be established that they’re not going to spread infection to their new tank-mates.
Also, too lazy to google right now, but regulatory agencies are doing amazing DNA-identification work on various fish species these days; quite possibly a blood sample will tell them where those sharks came from / which malign idiot might’ve sold them to the homeowner in the first place.
Steeplejack
@seaboogie:
Sorry, stepped away from the blog and didn’t see your message until now. And I’m about to go to bed.
GospelbeacH, “In the Desert.”
The Replacements, “Achin’ to Be.”
Steeplejack
The Allman Brothers Band, “Stormy Monday.”
Captain Oblivious
@Mnemosyne: at my first post-thyroidectomy consult with the radiologist, the first thing he said when looking at my pre-op CT scan was “Wow!”
seaboogie
@Steeplejack: Thank you, and sweet dreams.
debbie
@Anne Laurie:
Thanks, Anne. Lucky they weren’t in Brooklyn or the Bronx. Someone would probably tried to flush them.