Wednesday Morning Open Thread: Angry Incompetents

It was last Thursday, and Sessions and one of his former aides, Stephen Miller, who now serves as Trump’s senior policy adviser, tried to get into the Oval Office to see Trump and talk again about their opposition to protections for Dreamers, according to a person familar about the situation. They saw the president wavering and wanted to remind him of the legal argument and the stakes.

Kelly stopped them.

Kelly, the former secretary of homeland security, had a solution in mind aimed at allowing Trump to fulfill a campaign promise while easing the president’s clear misgivings about ending a program geared toward children — many of whom had no idea they were being brought to the country illegally. Delay the program’s end by six months, Kelly told Trump.

There was a practical benefit of this approach too; it would give Congress time to devise a legislative fix to protect nearly 800,000 Dreamers.

“General Kelly either wants a delay on the decision or to keep DACA, and is very frustrated by the attorney general and his former staffer Stephen Miller’s efforts to pursue their own agenda, given the president told his staff in the past he wants to keep DACA in place,” according to a person familiar with the situation.

Kelly used the weekend to call congressional leaders and lock in support. As details leaked, the administration’s decision was now set…

“Former Secretary of Homeland Security” and ICE defender Kelly is hardly a big fan of open borders, but he can spot an oncoming FUBAR with the best of them. Yes, the Malevolent Leprechaun has gotten his perverse jollies by announcing the Trump maladministration’s big plans to punish non-white people. But he clearly didn’t get to enjoy his ‘triumph’ much… the big-business donor base of the GOP are publicly renouncing the “rescission” in all available media. And every pundit with an IQ higher than cottage cheese is pointing out how one more ugly, ultimately unwinnable battle is *just* what the Repubs needed when they’ve got a heaping platter of legislation to deal with before they can get to the really important goal (more tax cuts for millionaires). Not to mention that Paul Ryan is already sweating like a cardsharp caught with a fifth ace and a little stash of counterfit chips — anything that makes Paul Ryan miserable has to be good for America.

Now it’s our job (and the Chamber of Commerce’s) to fight this xenophobic bullshit until Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III and his fellow racists are driven back under their white hoods.

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    There was a Latino lady on the local news that is totally supportive of ending DACA, she was saying that they should come here legally like her family did.

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    NobodySpecial says:

    I love the way that article spells out how easy it is to manipulate our Baldhead in Chief and that this is all the work of others. Should be good for a blood pressure spike.

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    Montanareddog says:

    And in Bakari Sellers’ feed is this Glenn Thrush tweet

    Typical cluelessness by Thrush asserting there is no evidence – of course, there is no evidence Glenn! It’s just bullshit cover for actions motivated by racism, jeez! If Dreamers are not stealing jobs, then they are moochers. And a hundred other pseudo reasons to justify Republican malice.

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    rikyrah says:

    Good Morning,Everyone 😐😐😐

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    rikyrah says:

    Prayers for everyone in the path of Irma😥😥

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    tybee says:

    the north turn for irma now shows up in the forecast.

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    Mark says:

    Glad to see someone address the 1965 Immigration act and how the Trump administration and it supporters want to eliminate it. They want to make America white again.
    Sad to see so many people that have benefited from that legislation fall for the B.S. being pedaled about immigration.

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    Baud says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @tybee: Projected to go straight up the Peni$ according to NWS. Look out Mustang Bobby.

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    raven says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Awaiting hurricane critter here in Athens!

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    Gravenstone says:

    That McClatchy piece is bullshit. Of course Trump had a legal option once Sessions declined to defend DACA in court – fire his ass and replace him with someone who would. Stop trying to cover for his duplicity, dammit.

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    tybee says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: what bothers me is that GFS forecast that has it slide off the east coast of FL and then into the GA/SC border.

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    @Baud: I’d look, but I fear it could be clowns.

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    @Gravenstone: I had the same reaction, but as we’ve come to understand Trump isn’t good at THE ONE THING he was supposed to be good at and that’s firing people.

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    Baud says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Worse than clowns.

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    Kay says:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 18 Jun 2012
    More
    Last Friday’s immigration announcement by @BarackObama is another short term solution to a larger problem. Obama can’t execute on the Hill.

    “the Hill” Guffaw.

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    @Baud: There’s nothing worse than clowns.

    ETA: OK, I looked, that is creepy. The dude is pond scum and does look a bit clown like.

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    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.] says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: clowns would be less creepy. I regret clicking on that link.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: Hillary should shave her head and send the hair to the asshole and demand the $5,000 per hair he is offering be donated to the Clinton foundation.

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    WE’RE #1! WE’RE #1! WE’RE #1! WE’RE #1!

    Plastic fibres found in tap water around the world, study reveals

    Microplastic contamination has been found in tap water in countries around the world, leading to calls from scientists for urgent research on the implications for health. Scores of tap water samples from more than a dozen nations were analysed by scientists for an investigation by Orb Media, who shared the findings with the Guardian. Overall, 83% of the samples were contaminated with plastic fibres.

    The US had the highest contamination rate, at 94%, with plastic fibres found in tap water sampled at sites including Congress buildings, the US Environmental Protection Agency’s headquarters, and Trump Tower in New York. Lebanon and India had the next highest rates.

    European nations including the UK, Germany and France had the lowest contamination rate, but this was still 72%. The average number of fibres found in each 500ml sample ranged from 4.8 in the US to 1.9 in Europe.

    The new analyses indicate the ubiquitous extent of microplastic contamination in the global environment. Previous work has been largely focused on plastic pollution in the oceans, which suggests people are eating microplastics via contaminated seafood.

    “We have enough data from looking at wildlife, and the impacts that it’s having on wildlife, to be concerned,” said Dr Sherri Mason, a microplastic expert at the State University of New York in Fredonia, who supervised the analyses for Orb. “If it’s impacting [wildlife], then how do we think that it’s not going to somehow impact us?”

    In response to this study, Scott Pruitt has announced that the EPA is ending all regulations on the plastics industry and has stopped funding any and all research on microplastic pollution and it’s effects on the environment.

    (and yes, that last is snark, but still you wonder)

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    Betty Cracker says:

    @tybee: Much relief here, as the previous models made us fear it would go into the Gulf and approach from the west, which is our doomsday scenario. Everyone in the path stay safe!

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    Immanentize says:

    @Gravenstone:
    Just so. Didn’t he already fire on (Acting) Attorney General for refusing to support a policy?

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @rikyrah: Good morning!

    Ms. O has to drive to Gallup AND Las Cruces for meetings today*, so we’re up early.

    *In other words, over 550 miles of driving.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @Immanentize:

    Just so. Didn’t he already fire on (Acting) Attorney General for refusing to support a policy?

    Alas, since when did facts matter in TrumpEnablerWorld?

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    Baud says:

    @Betty Cracker: You’re still in the Cone of Uncertainty, Better. You stay safe.

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    @Betty Cracker: So you won’t have pack up the boxers, the chickens and the Mister and head to Cole’s place(he’s been saying he has an extra room on the twitter).

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    @Baud: Does the Cone of Uncertainty work better than the Cone of Silence?

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    Baud says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: There are more uncertain people than silent people, so I would say so.

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    Baud says:

    @Baud: Ugh. Stupid spell check. Better = Betty.

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    I hope the Secret Service jumps on him.

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    debbie says:

    @debbie:

    Actually, on second thought, let’s get some of his hair and see how much lizard DNA it contains.

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    Baud says:

    @debbie: Why you hate lizards?

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    @Baud: I hear lizards are good luck(usually also means there aren’t any snakes around).

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    Worse than clowns. Plus they spit.

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    ByRookorbyCrook says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: So Irma is just a giant meteorogical candiru?
    Again, the Marmalade Mussolini is shown to be an imbecilic waffling coward, controlled by his staff. What about all the breathless hot-takes of Sessions being on the outs back before C’ville? The constant cry of’ “If only there were something I could do”, from the only person who can do anything about it, is as tragic as it is ridiculous. When Trump being responsible for nothing and controlled by his subordinates is the best spin you can put on stories, why do we have him as Chief Executive?

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    @Baud: A couple of weeks ago, there was a lizard on the wall at the side of the yard and my yorkiepom saw it and tried to catch it. Everyday since then, when I let the girls out, the little one runs over there to get at that lizard. The lizard, of course, is never there.

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    MJS says:

    @Baud: Judging from those pictures, Martin will definitely need to start working out if he’s going to be placed in general population. Otherwise, he should consider asking for solitary for the entire length of his upcoming stay in the big house.

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    Fester Addams says:

    Sessions. Is there a German word for “face that calls out to be struck with a hardwood chair leg”?

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    @ByRookorbyCrook:

    why do we have him as Chief Executive?

    Sixty-five million of us have been asking that question on a daily basis since November 9, 2016.

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    Baud says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: That’s a metaphor for something.

    @rikyrah: ikr?

    @MJS: Prison rape jokes are out. Besides, he’s going to a white collar prison.

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    MJS says:

    @Baud: I wasn’t referring to rape. I know that’s not a joking matter.

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    Baud says:

    @MJS: 👍

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: @Baud: Neither works as well as the Cone of Shame.

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    Baud says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I don’t know. Not enough people feeling shame these days.

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    cmorenc says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    @Baud: I’d look, but I fear it could be clowns.

    I looked, and it is indeed a scary clown.

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    Nora says:

    @Gravenstone: Wasn’t part of Trump’s supposed appeal that he was a good executive, that he was going to be The Boss? What kind of Boss (with a capital letter) whines that his subordinates are doing things he doesn’t want them to do but he can’t do anything about them?

    God, the man really is a coward down to his bones, isn’t he?

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    OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Baud: There’s a cone shortage.

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    randy khan says:

    @Gravenstone:

    In any other Administration, the Attorney General wouldn’t have dreamed of telling the President he couldn’t defend something like DACA. And, as you say, if the AG had the audacity to make that kind of claim, the President would just find another AG.

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    debbie says:

    @Baud:

    I’m ashamed of myself for bringing lizards into the conversation.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    Betty, Adam, all Florida based jackels you can relax. Rush Limpdick has spoken. Irma is a hoax perpetrated by Liberals in order to push their evil job killing, Un-American agenda!

    On mobile so don’t know how to link but the full story is on Raw Story.

    I’m sure you are relieved to learn the truth from this great American patriot./s

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    bemused says:

    @Nora:

    He could just fire them but then he’d be pretty much alone, wouldn’t he? He’d be hard pressed to replace them though. Who could he trust and who in their right mind would want to work for him? I’d say Pharma Bros Martin Shkreli would be fit right in the Trump administration but I think he may be otherwise occupied in jail. Actually, I think Shkreli might be a tad more mentally unbalanced than Trump.

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    bemused says:

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Rush lives in Florida, doesn’t he? If he is right in the path of Irma, bet he evacuates.

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    Sloane Ranger says:

    @bemused: The same point was made by commentators over at Raw Story. Also that he’ll be first in line for Federal handouts if his property is damaged.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques says:

    @Gravenstone:

    That McClatchy piece is bullshit. Of course Trump had a legal option once Sessions declined to defend DACA in court – fire his ass and replace him with someone who would. Stop trying to cover for his duplicity, dammit.

    Except because of Trump canning Comey the Senate made it clear it won’t consider replacements so Trump own idiocy has come back to bite Trump on his ass.

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    Ceci n est pas mon nym says:

    So, just talked to my sister in Florida near Melbourne. Still too much uncertainty for them to evacuate, and she’s definitely a worry-wart. Her daughter is off surfing the storm surge before school.

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    satby says:

    @rikyrah: good morning!

    @Baud: he is a creep, so anything he does is creepy.

    @O. Felix Culpa: WHOA, tell her safe travels from me!

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    There’s a cone shortage.

    Whoa – the Messicans are taking all our cones too?

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @satby: I will! Thanks! Good morning to you, by the way.

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    The first tweet you cite, from @Rschooley, is wrong. Always focus first and last on the sadism. It is what is real. Everything else is a consequence, or an allegory, or misdirection.

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    Catherine D. says:

    @bemused:

    Rush lives in Florida, doesn’t he? If he is right in the path of Irma, bet he evacuates.

    He’ll evacuate one way or another …

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    SFAW says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    Does the Cone of Uncertainty work better than the Cone of Silence?

    NOTHING works better than the Cone of Silence!

    Or should that be “everything”? I can never remember.

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    hueyplong says:

    Let’s stop pretending that Trump found an empathetic bone and is somehow being held back.

    And the world would have been a better place had Sessions’ great grandpappy been shown across at Chickamauga.

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    Peale says:

    How many bigoted statements does a guy have to make about Mexico and Mexicans before they’ll believe that deep down inside, he’s a bigot and wants to hurt Mexicans whenever he can? How many GOP officials have to run against Mexican rats and vermin before they’ll realize that perhaps they don’t really like Mexicans and want them removed? I’m pondering this search for empathy here.

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    cynthia ackerman says:

    @Catherine D.:

    Anf he’ll still be full of shit.

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    bemused says:

    @Sloane Ranger:

    Ha, didn’t think about your 2nd point but no doubt.

    Rush fans don’t care if he is full of crap even a lot of them have to know he is.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    Interesting article that provides the best explanation I’ve seen so far for the heinous evangelical “values voters” alliance with Trump, apart from venality of course:

    Fading white evangelicals have made a desperate end-of-life bargain with Trump

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    kindness says:

    I live in California. A good portion of my co-workers are of Hispanic descent. Many of them are Republicans (which I don’t really understand). They now hate Donald Trump with a passion. The rest of the country probably doesn’t think about it but back in the 80’s Pete Wilson (Senator & then Governor) brought up Proposition 187 for a vote. It was a horribly xenophobic & racist little proposition that lost and turned Californians of Mexican heritage against an obviously racist Republican party for a generation. Well now we have a new guiding light to show the next generation the way. Sessions et al might as well wear peaked white hoods everywhere from here on out.

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    chris says:

    MIT professor writes a book about a third world country, the USA.

    The United States is becoming a nation of rich and poor, with few families in the middle. In this book, MIT economist Peter Temin offers an illuminating way to look at the vanishing middle class. Temin argues that American history and politics, particularly slavery and its aftermath, play an important part in the widening gap between rich and poor. Temin employs a well-known, simple model of a dual economy to examine the dynamics of the rich/poor divide in America, and outlines ways to work toward greater equality so that America will no longer have one economy for the rich and one for the poor.

    Many poorer Americans live in conditions resembling those of a developing country—substandard education, dilapidated housing, and few stable employment opportunities. And although almost half of black Americans are poor, most poor people are not black. Conservative white politicians still appeal to the racism of poor white voters to get support for policies that harm low-income people as a whole, casting recipients of social programs as the Other—black, Latino, not like “us.” Politicians also use mass incarceration as a tool to keep black and Latino Americans from participating fully in society. Money goes to a vast entrenched prison system rather than to education. In the dual justice system, the rich pay fines and the poor go to jail.

    Link

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    satby says:

    @chris: might make a dent if they could turn it into a blockbuster movie 😢

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    Just one more canuck says:

    @Sloane Ranger: will link later (on iPad now) but Rush does look like Peter Potamus (60s cartoon)- maybe he’ll drive away Irma with his Hurricane Hippo Holler

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    chris says:

    @satby: Yeah, the people who need to read it can’t and won’t because eggheads or something.

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    chris says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: They need to fade faster! See also this troubling (scary) piece on healthcare and the nice religious people.

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    O. Felix Culpa says:

    @chris: Yes, I know. My in-laws are of that ilk. Unfortunately their worldview and their minds are impenetrable.

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    Jeffro says:

    I’d just like to belatedly thank Adam for his “Scotland Man” post from last night, which I just read and then promptly forwarded to everyone I know. It’s important to have life goals heading in to the ‘third quarter’. :)

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    Immanentize says:

    What do the models say about a direct hit by Irma on Mar a Lago?

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    Ruviana says:

    @kindness: If I’m remembering correctly it passed but was never implemented due to court challenges. But it totally changed attitudes and stuff in California.

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    different-church-lady says:

    OVERstated — it cannot be OVERstated.

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    Ruckus says:

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:
    Remember the only person who thought and said he was good at firing people was, wait for it, drumpf. Another own goal. We all know he’s not good at anything.

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    Cheryl Rofer says:

    Democrats are holding a press conference on the Dream Act now. Video

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    randy khan says:

    @Immanentize:

    What do the models say about a direct hit by Irma on Mar a Lago?

    They’re in favor of it.

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    Librarian says:

    @SFAW: Max, the Cone of Silence has never worked properly!

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    Can we just start calling him President Kelly and get it over with? Funny thing though, I don’t remember him being on the ballot.

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    J R in WV says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    The big black dots on the projected center course, how far apart in time are those? I know but forget… 12 hours? That puts it into Miami on Saturday, is that right?

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    Tehanu says:

    @Montanareddog:

    Letter in L.A. Times this am, unchecked immigration will increase the population to where it will “destroy our civilization.” Can’t tell you how much I’d like to tell the racist fuckwad who wrote it that “our” civilization would be much better off if he’d just drop dead.

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    artem1s says:

    Kelly, the former secretary of homeland security, had a solution in mind aimed at allowing Trump to fulfill a campaign promise while easing the president’s clear misgivings about ending a program geared toward children — many of whom had no idea they were being brought to the country illegally. Delay the program’s end by six months, Kelly told Trump.

    There was a practical benefit of this approach too; it would give Congress time to devise a legislative fix to protect nearly 800,000 Dreamers.

    HAHAHAHAHA, A. Moron Kelly thinks that Trump actually cares (or knows) what his promises are.
    B. Moron Kelly thinks a GOP congress is capable of crafting any legislation at all, let alone any that isn’t geared toward hurting people. C. Kelly is a Moron. He’s not going to last to the end of the year.

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    Parfigliano says:

    @O. Felix Culpa: my mrs is now driving to Abq for meeting

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