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NEW: Trump pledging $1 million to a fund for Harvey relief, Sarah Huckabee Sanders says.
— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) August 31, 2017
I'll believe that when the check clears.
— Michael Tannenbaum (@iamTannenbaum) August 31, 2017
$4 million less than when he offered Barack Obama $5 million for his birth certificate. https://t.co/sXjM6EdDAp
— Gabe Ortíz (@TUSK81) August 31, 2017
ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT OF THE CUTS TO DISASTER AID IN THE FEDERAL BUDGET. https://t.co/bYEOuhXtr4
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) August 31, 2017
But does it matter? He wouldn't give Obama $5M and he won't give the hurricane relief $1M.
— Dean Engemoen (@deanengemoen) August 31, 2017
Possibly related — note news platform!
BREAKING! 56% say #Trump “tearing the country apart” @FoxNews #Poll MORE: https://t.co/OKVgjsKTkE pic.twitter.com/EnHVq1lJrf
— Fox News Poll (@foxnewspoll) August 30, 2017
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Apart from looking glaring askance, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
dmsilev
Of those 33%, how many are thinking “Drawing country together in hatred of Trump?”. I’ll guess 6 percentage points.
?BillinGlendaleCA
When you’ve lost
Walter CronkiteFox News…SiubhanDuinne
If he’s as rich as he claims to be, $1 million is pocket change. Nice symbolic gesture, though.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Nice of him to catch up with Sandra Bullock, George Clooney and JJ Watt.
Somebody pointed out that people were asking him in ’12 to give some of that $5 million to Sandy relief. He didn’t give a dime.
Did anyone see Sarah Huckabee make the announcement? she said trump had asked her to ask reporters for help in deciding which charity to donate to. I couldn’t tell if she thought she/they were being funny or sincere. It was weird, even for her/them
dmsilev
Even assuming that he’s actually going to make such a donation, are we sure that it’s $1 million in useful money and not, say, 25,000 MAGA hats (currently on sale on his campaign website for $40 each)?
Baud
No way Trump spends his own money in a donation.
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
It’ll show up as a loss on his next tax return.
El Caganer
@dmsilev: Or possibly several thousand copies of the map showing his yooge Electoral College victory.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
That’s exactly what this is. He saw them on the TV and is copying them, except for the actual donation part.
trollhattan
@Baud:
I will guess, should it occur at all, that it comes from campaign funds.
Love how tiny Ohman always draws his hands.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Baud: Maybe the First Bank of St Petersburg will give him a HELOC on the White House
Smiling Mortician
@dmsilev: I was looking at it from the other end: 56% think he’s tearing us apart, but how many of ’em think that’s a good thing?
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Not that we’ll ever know.
Baud
@trollhattan: Very possible. Does that have to be reported?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan:
They are quite small.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Talk about a subprime mortgage.
trollhattan
Hey everybody, it’s Congressman Joe Walsh giving Gomert a run for his place as dumbest man in congress.
JMG
I am sure Watt is a diehard Trumper. But he is also a real person with real decent instincts. The contrasts between him and his political choice is astounding. Or maybe not. I am sure there were virulent Trumpers who rescued undocumented immigrants in the last few days and vice versa. It’s too bad it takes disasters for our species to see each other as just folks rather than the cartoons in our heads.
dmsilev
@Baud: FEC reports are filed quarterly this far out from an election. Check in late September (when the report for the summer quarter becomes available) or in late January for the fall quarter spending.
Baud
Jack Ohman’s cartoon is also bullshit. No way Trump is anywhere close to dirty flood water.
hellslittlestangel
So many homeless flood victims in Texas are going to be weeping tears of joy when they find they’ve received a free round of golf at Bedminster.
lamh36
Tonight my baby sister and Niecy Layla coming home to NOLA for the Labor Day weekend! They’re getting in late tonight, and I’ll be picking them up from the airport.
YAY!!!!
I’ve got work tomorrow though…BOOOOO… but I am gonna try to finish my desk EARLY so I can get home and spend time w/LayLay!
YAYYY!!!
So I may be scarce round these parts until Sun when they leave! But I’ll have alot of new pics of Layla!!!
YAYYYYY!!!!
dmsilev
@hellslittlestangel: Free? What are you, some kind of Communist? It’d be a coupon for 10% off the regular fee.
hellslittlestangel
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: …trump had asked her to ask reporters for help in deciding which charity to donate to.
Come on, he’s new at this!
raven
@lamh36: I have a Layla niece. Layla Marigold!
Baud
@dmsilev: Blackout dates apply.
Aleta
Anything to submerge those headlines about Manafort, Russia, Kushner and Sleezey Locks Jr. On Sunday he might even stand on the steps of a church.
hovercraft
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Fox is part of the MSM, FAKE NEWS !!!!. Real Americans know that only Fox and Friends and Hannity are Real. Also too Breitfart, Sinclair and Infowars.
I guess 33 is the new 27
scav
Pledging? Sure, it makes a bit more sense in the sense of Pledge being a recognized brand name for polishing things — he’s definitely polishing his brand with the small loan amount. Money more likely to come out of his charitable foundation (all OPM) as he’s more likely to want to play with the OPM in his political sandbox.
lamh36
@raven: Mine’s Layla Grace
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: Agreed. We’ll have to see if this was just a pledge which he has no intention of actually paying or if he hustles the money from some sucker for this donation. Trump is not a charitable person and I can’t see that changing now.
SiubhanDuinne
@trollhattan:
“Congressman Joe Walsh” hasn’t been in office since January 2013.
Amaranthine RBG
@Baud:
I can’t really think of a better way to launch BAUD 2020 than a $10 million dollar pledge from Baud’s personal funds.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: I was expecting a photo of Layla in your link. LOL.
The Moar You Know
He won’t be giving anybody a million bucks. He doesn’t have it. We all know this. Maybe the RNC or one of the Billionaire Bloodsuckers who funds his War On America is fronting it, but it ain’t coming from him.
hovercraft
@trollhattan:
ex-congresscritter, I believe Senator Duckworth booted his non child supporting, racist dumb ass from the House.
raven
@lamh36: Nice
p.a.
Just keep in mind that some %-age of the ‘dissatisfied with tRump’ are in the category because he’s not moving towards apartheid fast enough.
Baud
@Amaranthine RBG: Better yet, I pledge to the flood victims $50 million worth of access to Balloon Juice.
dmsilev
Maybe he’ll donate the cash to the Trump Foundation, which will spend it on helping golf course and resort owners with bad hair recover from lost business.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@hovercraft: That she did.
Mike in NC
A million bucks will buy a lot of Made-in-China polyester MAGA caps and 6″ stiletto heel pumps, just what everybody in Houston needs right now.
Steeplejack
FFS. Donating money is something you typically do if you want to help but you’re not in a position to act directly. Unlike, say—just blue-skyin’ here!—if you were the head of a vast organization with huge resources that could be applied directly to the crisis. But, you know, Trump. Much more important that people see what a generous guy you are.
themann1086
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/903343367991566341
clay
@Baud: That’s a lot of cat photos!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mike in NC:
To be fair, there are quite a few gentleman’s clubs in Houston(so I’ve been told); at least there were.
Frankensteinbeck
@Smiling Mortician:
I think the main portion that believe he’s unifying the nation believe that he’s uniting all white people against the colored people, who he will get rid of and who should not be counted as Americans.
@The Moar You Know:
He may not have had it before the election, but he sure does now. Trump stuck a spigot in the federal budget and has been pouring money into his own pocket as fast as it will go, starting day one.
trollhattan
@SiubhanDuinne: @hovercraft:
Well that’s oddly good news then. What a maroon.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Haven’t we been down this road before with the million dollar pledges? And the promises to divest holdings? And the promises to… and the promises to…
Mnemosyne
@scav:
I’m pretty sure that New Yorkers on the charity circuit found out very quickly that Trump is quick to pledge but very slow to shell out, if he ever actually does. That was how he managed to make himself a pariah.
Citizen_X
He’ll donate it to the $1 million purchase of a fine portrait of himself, to be hung in one of his club houses in the name of those poor Harvey victims.*
*His club, of course, will be charging a $500,000 display fee.
NorthLeft12
I don’t know if this was brought up in another thread but apparently another stalwart RWNJ has quit his day job. Sheriff Clarke handed in his resignation and from what I read did not provide a reason for leaving [and I use that term loosely] his job.
I am surprised [not] that the media doesn’t understand this by now. Quitting is what these right wing loons do. He smells that money tree just around the bend, and realizes his fifteen minutes is here right now and if he does something as foolish as live up to his commitment to the people of Milwaukee he will miss it. What a predictable douchebag.
germy
Reminds me of when Joel Osteen showed up on the morning talk shows (in front of a stack of “rescue supplies”) and said he’d be opening his megachurch for shelter.
He also said he was soliciting donations. It never occurs to people like him to dig into their OWN pockets. It’s always “give me some money and I’ll give it away for you, and pose for photos while I do it.”
Also, I wonder if Joel’s efforts at damage control worked, or is his reputation permanently tarnished?
efgoldman
@dmsilev:
You can also check from the other end, on the charity’s website, but I think you’ll be hunting that snipe for a long, long time.
WaterGirl
@Baud: That’s what the Trump charity slush fund is for!
germy
Trump pledged $1 million to Harvey victims — but Hurricane Sandy survivors are still waiting on 2012 pledge
hovercraft
@Mnemosyne:
Exactly, NY Society shunned him as a deadbeat long before Obama mocked him, he’s Carrie, and the presidency is his prom. There will be blood.
Cheryl Rofer
Exclusive: Mueller Enlists the IRS for His Trump-Russia Investigation
Old Dan and Little Anne
As a die hard hard Yankee fan you’ll be happy to know that Justice Sotomayor is in The Judge’s Chambers tonight. For non baseball fans this is a small section of seats at Yankee Stadium where fans wear judge’s robes to root for right fielder Aaron Judge. And Fuck off to all non Yankee fans.
Omnes Omnibus
Testing.
Geeno
@Baud: But access to Balloon Juice is priceless! How can you monetize that?
gene108
@germy:
If you didn’t think Joel Osteen was a greedy huckster before this, you aren’t going to think less of him now.
Frankensteinbeck
@Cheryl Rofer:
Well, Trump is fucked. Plus, this substantially increases the odds that his tax returns are leaked to the public. It won’t come from anyone working for Mueller, but the farther they’re spread, the more chances they’re intercepted by someone who wants to leak them.
That article reminded me of something interesting. Note that Trump is letting the people who could save him or screw him hang out to dry, financially. He’s too mean, stingy, and lacking in class to make sure their legal costs are covered. That will be part of his downfall.
bemused
@Cheryl Rofer:
Whoohoo!
Frankensteinbeck
@Old Dan and Little Anne:
As a non-Yankee fan, I thank you and also hope I get lucky.
Ruckus
@germy:
You can’t tarnish something that corroded. Or something he never had.
sharl
@Cheryl Rofer: The twitter thread from the former Federal prosecutor you linked on your twitter feed – as well as the older (earlier this month) thread that guy linked (in this more recent thread) – are rather encouraging. Like so many others, I’ve always figured this was the way to figure out what sordid matters twitler has been involved with for awhile, and why he is so nervous about anyone looking at his finances.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: Ha!
The Governor was unavailable for further comment, as Mr trump had asked him to make a MacDonald’s run, and the governor had, of course, complied.
ETA:
that’s hilarious, and a little scary
hovercraft
Who pretends to support kids with HIV but gives nothing? Donald Trump
And remember that the only reason he ended up following through on his pledge last year after his debate stunt was Davis Farenthold calling veterans organizations to follow up on his pledge
You would think that by now he’s realized that there will be follow up, so he’d pony up, but this moran seems incapable of learning. Maybe Kelly will stand over him as he writes the check and arrange a photo op in the Rose garden with some victims?
efgoldman
@Old Dan and Little Anne:
Everybody has faults. Clinton scarfed the occasional Big Mac; Obama was known to sneak a cigarette; Sotomayer is a Yankee fan. They all overcame their shortcomings.
The Moar You Know
@Cheryl Rofer: I’ve worked with one of those IRS special agents. He was retired at that point. Interesting guy. Funny, smart as hell and kind of scary. I would not have wanted to piss him off in any way whatsoever. Trump is in for a world of shit if this is in any way true.
Redshift
@germy:
Probably not. My perhaps only wingnutty friend posted a link to his Today Show interview, without reference to people shaming him into providing shelter or his sequence of lies about why he didn’t until then. I’m confident if I’d pointed those out, she would have firmly supported his assertion that of course he was always going to open the church.
bemused
@Frankensteinbeck:
He is solely responsible for his own problems. He throws himself under the bus over and over again.
I’m enjoying thinking about how miserable he is. Day by day, drip, drip, drip although the drip does look more like a stream now.
debbie
@hovercraft:
Hell, even Kasich beat him in Manhattan!
hovercraft
@Geeno:
Priceless yes, but we all have an infinite supply of BJ pesos. Sadly we are still unable to use them at Taco Trucks on every corner ; (
Just think of all the people who would benefit from unlimited access.
And BAUD 2020 will bring the Taco Trunks, he will!
Cheryl Rofer
@sharl: Yes, those two threads are excellent. After I posted the DB article, I realized I probably should post them, but you’ve beaten me to it!
? Martin
@Smiling Mortician: That’s my sense as well. Sounds like a feature for the neo-confederates.
germy
@gene108:
I’ve always despised him. I was wondering about the people who have sent Joel money over the years.
His interview on CBS Morning didn’t go well. When they asked him specifically which charities he’d donate to, he couldn’t tell them (this was after he said he was looking for donations). Gayle King even compared him unfavorably to the furniture/mattress guy, the real hero who opened his store for shelter.
Cheryl Rofer
Here’s the first tweet of the thread sharl mentioned. Another good thread embedded in it. If you click the link, you’ll see the whole thread.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Drumthwacket Foundation? WTF is that…
geg6
@germy:
Rightfully so. Mattress Mack is the real deal.
germy
Drumthwacket is the official residence of the NJ governor. When I googled the foundation and clicked on “About the Foundation” I got an error message.
Omnes Omnibus
@germy: Drumthwacket Foundation.
Frankensteinbeck
@bemused:
He has everything. Everything. Power, money, fame, women, he’s lived a life of total privilege laughing at the law, and he even became president. Despite all that, he’s the most unhappy son of a bitch I can imagine. The guy is so miserable that he wakes up at 3am on a regular basis to rage tweet about tiny things. He can’t let go of asinine failures as trivial as the size of his inauguration crowd. Certainly if anyone does not deserve happiness it’s him, but it’s amazing to see.
lgerard
@efgoldman:
Justice Kagan carries the torch for the Red Sox, so it all works out
Roger Moore
@Old Dan and Little Anne:
All real baseball fans should give her a cheer whenever they see her. As a district court judge, she handed down the injunction that stopped the 1994-95 strike/lockout. It was the first time I had heard of her, and I’ve been keeping an eye on her career since.
The Thin Black Duke
@Frankensteinbeck:
But how much of that does he owe to Big Daddy Putin?
Roger Moore
@The Moar You Know:
It’s funny how some of the smaller federal law enforcement agencies have such fearsome reputations. I’ve also heard you should never on your life get on the wrong side of the US Postal Inspectors.
Gelfling 545
@germy: Anybody who had ever glanced through the Gospels knows that Osteen is a con man. Prosperity Gospel, my…..eye. “Sell all you have and give to the poor.”
evodevo
@germy: It won’t have been tarnished among his cult followers … they’ll be slugging back the koolaid till the moment they get carried out …
SgrAstar
@lamh36: ummm, lamh36…you excited about Layla? Grin.
Davebo
Les Alexander, owner of the Houston Rockets has pledged 10 million (after initially pledging 4 million and seeing how bad it really was).
Then again, Les really is a billionaire.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Old Dan and Little Anne: Would this be the same Aaron Judge who’s hitting .181/.342/.349 since the All Star Break?
hovercraft
@Frankensteinbeck:
The one silver lining in all of this. It would have been better for everyone if he could have stayed miserable in his golden tower, but at least he’s miserable in the new job. Remember this is a man who craves love and respect above all things save money, and instead he’s the most despised person on Earth. We all may be suffering through his reign, but at least we are for the most part happy and content with our families, friends and work. This scum is miserable in all three, his trophy wife is waiting for him to drop dead so she can resume her life, Jared has stolen the woman of his dreams and people actually expect him to know things and do things in his new job, the audacity of them!
Oh and friends, what friends?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Hee hee– Chafed trump!
is it too late to pick Columbus Day in the Kelly’s Last Day Pool?
ETA: He’s turning on people that are very close to him
given todays’ news about Kushner, he may be worried about people very close turning on him. I was wondering if Jared could flip without it becoming public
Old Dan and Little Anne
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Hmmmmm…unless its for another Aaron Judge they recently signed or traded for that I don’t know about, then yeah, that must be the one.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I like the roger stone quote: “He’s a free spirit!”
Roger Moore
@Gelfling 545:
I think the correct response to the “Prosperity Gospel” is Matthew 6:24:
Osteen and his ilk have made their choice: Mammon.
Brachiator
@hovercraft:
Sorry, I can’t relate to this. The pain Trump causes is much greater than the pain he feels. Plus, he has staff whose job it is to soothe his troubled brow when he feels bad. The rest of us have to do the best we can.
TriassicSands
POTUS = Piece Of Totally Unimaginable Shit
germy
(Elvis Costello, No Dancing)
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Old Dan and Little Anne: It’s going to be interesting to see whether Judge can make the necessary adjustments now that the league has figured him out. Based upon his minor league track record, my guess is that he can’t and that we’re looking at a very tall Steve Balboni.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
the real comedy here is that the Beast thinks there are flattering camera angles
TriassicSands
@Brachiator:
In reality, yes, but in Trump’s diseased mind he’s suffering more than any other human being could. He’s the “…est” everything and he undoubtedly believes that his own unmatched empathy leaves him vulnerable to suffering on a par with that experienced by all Harvey (and Sandy and Katrina) victims combined.
germy
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
But her emails.
psychobroad
To pledge is human, to give, divine.
mai naem mobile
For all his supposed brilliance at branding anf PR, Dolt45 is an idiot. He’s supposedly a rich bidnessman who knows other bidnessmen . He could have turned this into an awesome PR opportunity and gotten Tillerson,Ross,Mnuchin, Cohn, Kushner, Thiel, Icahn and maybe even Chao to kick in big donations. They’re charity donations/tax write offs for them anyway.
psychobroad
That fat fuck would no more stand (tiny) dick deep in floodwaters than he would actually give any of his own money to charity.
BruceFromOhio
@Old Dan and Little Anne: FTFY
Zelma
I’m going to publish this or something like it all over the place but I thought I’d start here. I have a simple question which nobody seems able to answer: Who the hell is in charge of making these appointments to Trump’s administration? The choices are so egregious and so universally designed to destroy the effectiveness of the government, that I have come to the conclusion that it cannot be random. I DO NOT believe in conspiracy theories. At least, I never did before. But there is something so systematic to these appointments that I can’t help but wonder. Is it Pence? Is it the crazy ex-Senator from SC? Is it the Kochs? Is it the Mercers? I was driven to this position by the appointment of an ex-employee of profit seeking and heavily fined DeVry University to oversee the enforcement of eligibility for student loans. And he is just one of many. Also by what Tilerston has done to State. They are, appointment by appointment, destroying this country.
germy
The rude pundit:
Old Dan and Little Anne
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Meh. I doubt he continues to struggle throughout September. Stuggled at every level until he was able to adjust, hit better, and move up a level. Stunk like shit last year, started this year line an MVP, and now looks lost again. It happens.
Redshift
Anyone who is still under the delusion that Kasich is a “reasonable” Republican should see his segment on Chris Hayes tonight about health care. Claiming that Obamacare is “imploding,” saying that the money the administration is refusing to spend on marketing would be better spent on “other things, characterizing that as “paying people” to buy insurance, which it isn’t, and then saying a better use would be for “incentives” (i.e., paying people to buy insurance.)
His Democratic buddy Hickenlooper isn’t evil, by contrast, but he sounds like he knows less about how the ACA works than I do. So he comes off as a useful idiot.
germy
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: This.
It’s always – always – about Donnie trying to impress everyone about how rich he is. It’s the only thing he kinda knows how to do.
I heard a promo for the NPR show “Reveal” on the way home. Via their web site I found this copy of his June financial disclosure form. It’s kinda funny that lots and lots of the entries say something like “value reported is only the bank balance – value of the underlying assets are not readily obtainable”. That, and the eleventy seven corporations that seem to have very similar names, seem to invite suspicions of money-laundering… Not that anyone would really think that, not at all, …
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
@germy: Christ, what an asshole. Churches have been sanctuaries forever. The term sanctuary for a place of safety and refuge comes from the church.
Baud
@Redshift: That’s why Dems shouldn’t partner with the GOP. The relationship only works if Dems are submissive.
Redshift
@Zelma: I assume they’re coming from various conservative “think” tanks, just like his judicial nominees all come from the Federalist Society. Some of them were once organizations that tried to come up with conservative ideas of governance; now they pretty much all have no real ideas; they just want to wreck government so Democrats can’t make it work.
Patricia Kayden
@germy: Why would a man worth millions of tax free dollars need my money to donate to those in need? Ridiculous and greedy as hell.
Millard Filmore
@Frankensteinbeck:
As sure as shootin his pardoning himself for tax crimes will drive those odds through the roof.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
DeMint? I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a lot sway with Pence, who I think has a lot of influence in appointments. I think he or someone like him picked Gorsuch, for example. Conway and Bannon were both from the Mercers’ orbit. I believe I’ve read the Kochs don’t like trump
germy
@Omnes Omnibus: I looked at some of his other tweets. They’re what you’d expect.
@Patricia Kayden: Joel made the round of the morning news shows trying to rehab his image. Posed in front of disaster relief props. He’s asking his marks for donations, which he claims he’ll forward to the appropriate charities, although he couldn’t name a single charity. He should lose his tax-free status immediately, IMO.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Redshift: Hickenlooper gives me a real Evan “Shortlist” Bayh vibe, both in terms of a preoccupation with Beltway “centrism” and business-friendliness, and in his ambition
good lord, he lives in fucking Houston and he can’t name local charities? he hasn’t heard Team Rubicon discussed on FoxNews or CBN? He’s never heard of the Red Cross?
The Moar You Know
@germy: reminding people that, contrary to his protestations otherwise, Osteen did not, in fact, open his church. With friends like that, who needs enemies? Just the kind of friend Joel deserves, I’m thinking.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
The only things Osteen provides sanctuary for are cash and fungible assets.
germy
@The Moar You Know:
Seriously? After all this? I thought he’d finally been shamed into opening it.
What about this?
Frankensteinbeck
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The only reason Jared might not betray Trump is that Jared might consider himself too important and magical and special to personally face consequences. ‘It won’t happen to me’ is big even among people less outrageously arrogant.
SFBayAreaGal
I love the name Layla. Now, of course I can’t get Eric Clapton’s song Layla out of my mind.
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The anonymous “friend” in that piece probably was Kushner.
different-church-lady
Well, it’s what he said he was going to do, so what’s the problem?
efgoldman
@Frankensteinbeck:
A common malady among rich, pampered, sheltered people, free of consequences for their actions… until they aren’t. And they’re often correct – remember the Affluenza kid?
Schlemazel
@TriassicSands:
The word you are looking for is “sociopath” incapable of feeling any pain except their own, which they inflate
germy
@efgoldman:
He’ll be the 2024 GOP presidential nominee.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The problem was the venue didn’t fill up. The camera angles showed empty space. Donald claimed 15k, the fire marshal said it held 5k, and there were more like 4k there for Donald’s racist extravaganza.
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
I don’t consider Jared to be any better as a human being than drumpf. I don’t therefore think he is capable of being able to personally face consequences. Has he ever had to before now? Do you think he’s looked at dad’s issues and thought for a second that any of it was dad’s doing? I’d bet he thinks that’s what people do, but with proper laws and enough cover, one couldn’t get caught. Does anyone think that any of the people in drumpf’s circle are actual thoughtful human beings who give the tiniest shit about anyone but themselves?
Shana
@efgoldman: Yeah, but I saw her once at City Center Encores so she’s also a fan of Great American Musicals. Sorry I don’t remember what show it was.
Digital Amish
Pledging a million dollars? I’ll believe it when I see his tax return. Or are the Mexicans going to pay for that too?
efgoldman
@germy:
Fortunately (or not) he won’t be old enough; he’ll only be 27.
Although given the nominee the RWNJs are likely to hork up….
Schlemazel
@Ruckus:
How deep in the hole are his real estate holdings? He may feel his only hope is to hold out and get in on Dolt 45s grift of laundering money for Putin. He may just figure he might just as well go to jail if his business is going to tank anyway
Mike in NC
Dubya wasn’t a True Conservative because he never demonized all Mexicans as murderers and rapists and drug pushers. Dubya even went so far as to say that all Muslims weren’t terrorists. Trump saw the problem right there and proceeded to fix it.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mike in NC: Dubya (and Kkkarl Rove) actually saw the necessity of the GOP embracing Hispanics and Muslims as social conservative types who could be effective in securing a base to support the parasite overclass’ tax cut agenda. The teabaggers of course can’t stand this idea, for two reasons: racism, and they’ve had it with the GOP establishment that is wedded to the parasite overclass.
Shana
@Brachiator: I thought they guy in charge of compiling the good news folder quit?
Laura
@lamh36: Enjoy your time with your loved ones lamh36!
Mnemosyne
It’s 7 pm and still 97 degrees outside. Now I need an alternative dinner plan that doesn’t require me to turn the stove on at 400 degrees for an hour. ?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Redshift: just watched it. Not a lot of there there, was there?
randy khan
@Zelma:
Trump doesn’t care much about any of the jobs other than the really big Cabinet appointments, so they’re largely being subcontracted through Pence and, therefore, through the Republican donor base and the ideological extremes. So there’s a lot in the way of foxes guarding henhouses.
Shana
@Mnemosyne: That’s what restaurants and/or carry out is for.
BTW, when are you seeing Hamilton? Isn’t it soon?
Major Major Major Major
@Villago Delenda Est:
IMO the latter is not quite right. It’s that they actually internalize the excuses for racism and rapaciousness as the real policy goals. E.g. they actually want to shrink the deficit as a primary goal rather than an excuse for not helping the sluts/blacks/etc. They bought the dog whistles at face value, they’re second and third generation victims of Atwater.
Mnemosyne
@Shana:
Next Wednesday. I’m trying to convince my boss I should be allowed to leave work early even though I’m already coming in late thanks to a doctor’s appointment. I think we finally agreed on 5:30 pm so she doesn’t have to deal with me pacing the floor until quitting time. ?
Another Scott
@Schlemazel: Jared will fix it. He can fix anything.
Oh wait…
Emphasis added.
Yeah, buy a worthless building for a record amount at the peak of the bubble. Then use your political connections to borrow even more – from shady foreign oligarchs – with no hope of ever making a reasonable return on the “investment”. Use it as a “great success” to expand the company and take in even more of other people’s money, people who just happen to want something from your father-in-law….
Brilliant!!
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Shana
Oooh. You’ll love it, although I’m sure you know that already. Knowing the show well, as I’m sure you do, is one thing, but the staging makes it even better. We expect to hear from you about it Thursday.
Redshift
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I know! I realize knowing anything about anything is general a liability for Republicans, but you’d think if Hickenlooper wants to make a splash, he’d do a bit of homework. Or maybe he’s relying on the totebagger bipartisanship fetish to make up for that lack.
Definitely a Bayh vibe, I agree.
Ruckus
@Schlemazel:
You don’t think he’s in on the grift now? I do believe that he holds near and dear to himself the idea that money can do no wrong and having more and more money is what makes you better and better. And as he has no gift for making money, nor any ideas for making money so I’d expect him to be way deep in dad in laws bullshit. I think we are going to find out that there are a lot more people deep in drumpf’s money bullshit than we think we know. The amount of money being laundered has to easily be in the billions, there’s enough room for a lot of tiny little hands to be dipping into it.
Schlemazel
@Ruckus:
I think his real estate holdings are short of cash & he has big payments due. He is not attracting foreign money that he needs. It is why he has been so anxious to get the CHinese to cough up money for face time with hair furor
mai naem mobile
@Schlemazel: Yuuuge hole. Yuuuge. Don’t forget that golf courses have been having a hard time financially for several years. Also seeing him on the political stage I think you could snooker him into bad real estate deals with flattery. I think it’s daddy’s original investments that keep him afloat. I think Jared is cut from the same cloth. Jared paid the highest amount ever paid per sq ft for its class building for the 666 property and that’s got Kushner properties in a soup.
mai naem mobile
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I like Hickenlooper. He had to stand up to the NRA and that takes some balls. I think he’s got a decent life story. I don’t think he’s an Obama (who is?) but he’s decent.
Ruckus
@Schlemazel:
Exactly my point. He way, way over paid for his prize property because he’s a fucking idiot. I’m worth about a $1.95 and I know better than to buy well over the top and sell below well below bottom. That’s why he fits in the drumpf world so well.
ETA I also think that being worth a $1.95 makes me wealthier than the drumpf family. What they aren’t up to their eyeballs in hock for only has the value of having drumpf’s name on the side of and we’ve seen what that’s worth. Not worth the can of gold spray paint used to tart it up.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@mai naem mobile: I’ll admit my take is superficial, and he didn’t do much to inspire me in that Hayes appearance, but I’d vote for Bayh if he’s the one to deliver us from trump
jonas
Of course “tearing the country apart” is precisely what a lot of Trump voters hoped he would do. It’s a feature, not a bug.
jonas
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The Kochs are libertarian ideologues interested in deregulation and lower taxes. IIRC they were early backers of Scott Walker and when it was clear the base wasn’t going that way, they basically sat out the election. They don’t give a shit about all the culture war stuff Trump is pushing and think it distracts from their agenda.
PaulWartenberg
trump claims to be donating 1 million dollars to Harvey relief efforts.
Princes William and Harry are pledging 100 million.
The British Royals are doing more for Americans than trump is.