Josh Marshall makes a very good point this morning about Trump’s toxicity:
Every president has these industry councils like the ones we’ve been talking about in recent days. They range from meaningless to not terribly important. They’re mainly symbolic. With everything that’s happened in recent days, I don’t want to make it out like the decisions of a small number of CEOs is the biggest news. Still, we should recognize that it is entirely unprecedented to have a sitting president become so toxic that corporate America feels unable to publicly associate with him. That is totally, totally new territory.
Last November, the Brookings Institute looked at the election and they made a very key point. The areas of the country where there was both population density and wealth voted for Clinton.
Visibly enraging not-Trump voters is a money loser.
efgoldman
But wait! I’ve been told since grade school that the Republiklowns were the rich plutocrat party.
Baud
@efgoldman: The truth is that both parties are a coalition of elites and regular folks. The chief difference is that they are comfortable with their coalition but many on our side are not comfortable with ours.
burnspbesq
Ever since I saw that graphic, I’ve wondered what the richest county that went for Trump was. My guess would be Tarrant (Ft. Worth) or Cobb (Suburban Atlanta).
SatanicPanic
@burnspbesq: when you’ve lost the OC…
danielx
@Baud:
Plus which as a matter of policy the Dems do generally let a few more crumbs fall off the table for the proles and give at least lip service to the New Deal, etc etc.
burnspbesq
@SatanicPanic:
I live in OC, and while Trump lost it, it’s still blood-red Republican. The OC part of CA-49 saved Darrell Issa’s ass, and Walters, Rohrbacher, and Royce continue to win big every two years.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
I would think that Corporate America decided minority money is just as green as white people’s money was obvious when Lady Gaga was singing “I was born this way” at the super Bowl half time show. If not they HAVE to have minorities and woman just staff their companies, and if it’s not that, then it’s they don’t want to piss off all their Asian customers by associating their corporate name with white racist idiots.
dm
That rich counties went for Democrats doesn’t necessarily mean that rich people did. Those ~16% of counties also represent about 50% of the population (and had 3 million more votes) than the 84% of counties that went Trump.
That means those bigger pies were divided among many more people.
tobie
This chart is so telling. Blue America generates the GDP; red America takes more than it contributes. Oh will the irony never end.
SatanicPanic
@burnspbesq: I guess San Diego is going to have to rescue you from that Issa turd
Another Scott
@burnspbesq: From the Brookings link:
It’s interesting, and shows again that Trump’s “victory” was very hollow.
But what are we doing about it? Passing out anvils to Donnie’s minions is great, but it’s not enough. We need to be pushing a new agenda with passion and commitment. There’s not enough time to change the system before 2018, so we’ve got to work within it.
Is Robinson right that ‘Better Deal’ is too timid and Democrats need to ‘go big of go home’? Dunno. But he is right that Democrats need to fight for every vote and not assume that the Teabaggers will just give up and that the voters will simply choose Democrats by default…
Cheers,
Scott.
lamh36
It was NEVER about economic anxiety…
grammypat
Henceforth, when I speak of the president* (* h/t Mr. Chas Pierce), I will refer to him as the “Toxic Toddler.” Think I could get a copyright?
jl
But Trump assured us non Trump base people during the campaign that this would not happen. He could be whatever he willed himself to be, and do so very quickly and easily. He would ditch the BS gimmicks he needed to win the GOP primary, and become very very presidential. Terrifically so. He would deliver top dignified and moderate presidential presidenting. Would be no more ‘rough’ Trump you saw during the campaign.
So, I don’t believe it.
lamh36
Posting this GIF again cause it’s too perfect an example of how I”m feeling right now:
https://media.giphy.com/media/dnP2VxYVlW2NW/200.gif
My money is on his going to war with Jarred..and the rest of the folks in WH that spoke against him!
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: many on our side are not comfortable with the word ‘coalition’.
Yarrow
@lamh36:
As I posted in the previous thread:
Just imagine what Bannon knows about Jared and Ivanka. Not enough popcorn in the world.
lamh36
Per CNN: “Now I’m free. I’ve got my hands back on my weapons. Someone said “it’s Bannon the Barbarian”. I am definitely going to crush…knowing what I know, we’re gonna rev that machine up and rev it up we will do”
It’s.About.To.Go.Down
Yarrow
Oh, and this:
Bannon da barbarian? Someone who is good at Photoshop needs to get right on this!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@lamh36:
eh, in a way. Once upon a time one could be white, lazy and useless and still get a job because companies HAD to hire white. Now these Racially Superior Americans are unfairly forced to compete with minorities, woman and the Racially Superior aren’t properly equipped for a completive work environment that unfairly demand skill sets other than showning up to work and lecturing your coworkers about what you saw on Fox . Do note it’s luzer white America that voted for Trump.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@burnspbesq:
It’s a bit less red than it was 20-30 years ago.
germy
@lamh36:
Is he in some sort of manic phase?
Major Major Major Major
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: ISTR that having racist and sexist beliefs was the biggest single predictor of Trump support over all other factors demographic and otherwise. That and authoritarianism.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I mean, Issa almost lost.
Cheryl Rofer
This dropped while Carl Icahn was resigning from one of those councils.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy:
It’s the booze talkin’.
geg6
@Yarrow:
Yup. When a colleague ran into my office to tip me off to the news (move-in week on campus makes the student aid office the vortex of the hurricane and, thus, no wasting work hours cruising the ‘Net), my first reaction was that Jerrod was toast. Totally confused my colleague and I had to explain. My explanation was, basically, your comment.
germy
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
But I imagine at some point he’d fall asleep.
What is this, the third day? I wonder if he’s slept, or if he’s just babbling maniacally at this point nonstop.
Mary G
Orange County, CA has come a long way in my lifetime. The local John Birchers came to see my dad in 1963 to tell him he must forbid my mom from starting a thrift shop because it was a Communist front. He offered to let them tell her themselves and she got so mad and yelled so loud and long at them she had a miscarriage. The shop is going strong in its 53rd year.
lamh36
the entire Bannon Weekly Standard Interview
Bannon: ‘The Trump Presidency That We Fought For, and Won, Is Over.’ http://tws.io/2wiltwC via @WeeklyStandard
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: True, part of the reason that these Congresscritters keep getting re-elected is incumbency. So voters get down to the Congressional line on the ballot and think, “they’ve been doing ok for the district”.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy: Trust me, it’s the booze; he could be augmenting it with other pharmaceuticals to stay awake.
ThresherK
@SatanicPanic: “Don’t call it that.”
—
Empty square miles vote for Rs. Who guessed?
eclare
Finally, one of the evangelicals quit.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: I remember the folk that represented the OC back in the 70’s and 80’s, a real freak show.
Major Major Major Major
So it looks like this is indeed turning out to be a very bad day for Trump, even by Friday standards.
Mike J
As has been pointed out before, the number of counties mentioned above is misleading.
Number of counties, population
NY 62, 20M
CA 58, 39M
GA 159, 10M
KY 120, 4M
AliceBlue
@burnspbesq:
Hillary carried Cobb; I’d say the richest county in Georgia that Trump carried is Fayette.
Yarrow
What a shocker!
Fair Economist
@burnspbesq:
Well, yes, but more in the way the South was Democratic in the ’80s. Downticket is still red but nationally and statewide it’s now purple. That shift predicts the downticket will start shifting, starting at the top (Congress) and moving down from there. Flipping multiple Congressional seats is very possible, especially with a wave election.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
His vacation seems to have been shot to hell. Maybe this will keep him from ever taking another extended golfing excursion.
Nah.
mike in dc
@lamh36: Jared will become the new “George Soros” of the far right.
danielx
@Major Major Major Major:
Backstroking in a river of schadenfreude.
clay
@Yarrow: Meh. Until they go after Trump himself, it won’t really matter, other than for schadenfreude.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Fair Economist: Yup, also as the current group of Congresscritters retire or are indicted, you’ll start to see some of those districts turn blue.
Major Major Major Major
@danielx: Ew.
germy
Just heard the news about Neil Simon.
http://www.thelifeandtimesofhollywood.com/writer-neil-simon-has-dementiaalzheimers/
lamh36
@Yarrow: https://media.giphy.com/media/12gBA15FzpZNC0/200.gif
trollhattan
@Another Scott:
BTW, them rural Trumpian folk aren’t out there in the scantly populated boonies trapped by economic woes, they’re out there because they can’t stand to be around others, at least not often. It’s how they roll.
SiubhanDuinne
@germy:
Oh, how very sad. Hadn’t heard.
Major Major Major Major
@lamh36: I like the chair one best.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@trollhattan: Or the rest of us can’t stand to be around them.
trollhattan
@germy:
When he finally passes out he’ll channel Peggy Noonan and dream sweet dreams about licking Ronny Reagan’s loafers.
chris
So I go offline for one day to do a good deed like they taught me in Cub Scouts. Come back and… Holy shit! The rats are swan diving from the superstructure and it’s a wonderful thing to see.
Major Major Major Major
This January Photo of Trump’s Inner Circle Has Not Aged Well
lamh36
@Major Major Major Major: ANYTHING with Jason Mamoa is ALWAYS better!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Only one’s left are the Appricot Abomination and the Satient Mayonaise.
Baud
I can’t wait to fire each and every one of you guys.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I guess with the condition Trump is leaving the civil service in you’ll have no choice but to pack all the open positions with us until you can find somebody better.
p.a.
Keeps going like this, Gingrich, Hewitt, and Scalia’s rotting corpse will have to be drafted into the admin.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: You can’t fire me; I quit!
Quinerly
@Baud:
Poco, too???
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Ah, Gawd!
the usual suspects are already trotting out another wave of “pivot” stories
The stoopid — it burns.
Major Major Major Major
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: the pivot stories never last longer than a day, don’t see why this will be different.
Quinerly
Bannon and his lack of Russia connections. TPM’s take: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/bannon-jared-and-russia
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
“I hire the best people!”
BannonScaramucciReincyCoryFlynnSpicyManafortPageDubkeEpshtynTune in next week to see who gets fired in this season installment of Survivor: White House.
Yarrow
@Quinerly: How is Poco? Did his surgery go okay?
SiubhanDuinne
@trollhattan:
Has Peggy Noonan been exceptionally quiet and/or circumspect during these first seven months of the Trump (mal)administration? (Is she even still alive?) I don’t read the WSJ, but it seems to me that under Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43, and Obama, her columns were fairly often cited by others (mostly in an “OMG-can-you-believe-what-Nooners-has-said-now?!” kind of way) so that one was generally aware of her being a nuisance and buzzing around in the background like a drunken housefly. But I honestly don’t think I’ve seen or heard her name since January until you just now. Did she retire? Pass out?
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Speaking of Poco, how did his surgery go? Is he back home? Have had my various bits crossed for him, and hope the tumour turns out to be benign.
ETA: What Yarrow asked at #66.
Hal
Hardest laugh I’ve had all day
Gelfling 545
@germy: Or he has taken some substance that is not good for him.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Something Big is coming
Major Major Major Major
@Gelfling 545: he does that five times
beforefor breakfast.eclare
@Quinerly: Thanks! I was asking about this in a downstairs thread and was informed that Bannon gets funded by the Mercers, and they have ties to Russia.
chris
@SiubhanDuinne: I was browsing in a bookstore this afternoon when I sensed a disturbance in the force or somebody pissing on my wa. P. Noonan has a new book out called The Time of Our Lives. No, I didn’t touch it.
Major Major Major Major
@eclare: they sure do, but that doesn’t mean Bannon does anything more than take the money of people with Russia connections.
frosty fred
@SiubhanDuinne: The blog Mock, Paper, Scissors does occasional parodies of Noonan’s recent columns, under a clever headline that naturally escapes me.
cain
Reddit thread on Oregon’s free access to reproductive services (AKA abortion) here The best part is all these men saying “awesome! I’m going to get a vasectomy!” I had no idea so many wanted to do that…
Quinerly
@eclare:
Saw the back and forth on it. Thought this was an interesting piece.
Major Major Major Major
@cain: I can see the allure.
Gelfling 545
@germy: Saw the Madness of King George at the Shaw Festival last weekend. One of the King’s symptoms was inability to sleep combined with incessant and repetitive talking. Hmmm.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: That’s a pretty slick move with the chair!
Major Major Major Major
@Gelfling 545: bet we could find somebody who knows what color Trump’s pee is…
SiubhanDuinne
@frosty fred:
I was not aware of Mock, Paper, Scissors. Now bookmarked. Thank you! (Haven’t taken time to look for the Nooners spoofs, but I’ll poke around.)
eclare
@Major Major Major Major: True, he seems to be the only one in Trump’s orbit, hell universe, that does not have direct ties to Russia, which I find interesting.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gelfling 545:
In fairness, that seems to describe some of the cats in Adam’s “Friday Afternoon Break” thread.
Quinerly
@Yarrow: @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks for asking about Baud’s running mate! Poco is home and stoned out of his mind from heavy drugs. Mouth tumor removed without a hitch. Not deep, not in the bone. It’s off for testing at the vet school…results next week. Oh, and no teeth removed this time. He lost two teeth with a similar tumor 18 months ago. Kitty adviser John Lennon is keeping an eye on him.??
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: And then there were two…
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, he does love him those purple states.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Golden Showers.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: Ideas like this are why you are going places!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Quinerly: I don’t know if I’d rely on Lennon to watch him, he might run off with Yoko.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@WaterGirl: Sure, but Baud will fire him too.
cain
@Major Major Major Major:
Me too, but I wasn’t expecting the celebration by men. I could understand women but.. men seemed like they were high5ing each other. Of course, they went after to “pro-birth” people who got all hot and bothered about it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Very glad it didn’t go deep. Is he aware he has a LEGION of fans all across the country (probably all over the world) rooting for him and wishing him well? We need Poco strong and healthy for the Baud/Poco! 2020! campaign.
ETA: Also, too, the Republicans are bound to trump up some fake and phony charge for impeaching Baud a few months into his inevitable presidency, and Poco needs to be fully fit to step in if needed.
Major Major Major Major
@cain: this is the first time in history that men can turn off babymakin’ capacity in a straightforward and reversible manner… why wouldn’t the early adopters be psyched?
Mike in NC
Bannon the Barbarian? He’s got the bad hygiene thing mastered.
WaterGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I knew Baud would be a bold president, but I have to admit.. Baud’s plan of firing us before he’s even hired us has caught me flat-footed.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Speaking of which, how are TaMara’s ducks?
//ducks
Yarrow
@Quinerly: Awww…glad everything went well. Fingers crossed for good results from the testing. I hope they gave him the good stuff and he’s enjoying a nice, relaxing nap.
ArchTeryx
@cain: I got my answer to them. “You really want me to have a bunch of white kids that’ll be loaded down with disabilities? Then why do you keep voting to take away any hope of them getting health care and probably doom them to an early death?”
Checkmate, fuckers. Or at least, the response will be a fine selection of Word Salad straight from King Azaz’s own banquet table.
SiubhanDuinne
@chris:
Aaaaaarrrgh!! Why you want to ruin a girl’s appetite like that?!?!?
Gelfling 545
@Major Major Major Major: No doubt documented by the Russians.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
There’s confirmation of a pee tape, though. Today was assembly line like neuter day for a rescue group. A parade of young males had gone in just as we were arriving at the clinic. Baud’s running mate let loose at the counter…surgeon explained about the younger males that came through with all their hormones flying around. Said the older neutered “Pocos” try to mark their turf higher and with more gusto. Let’s not let this get out. I don’t think Baud! should even know.
Quinerly
@Yarrow:
He’s tripping.? Chasing street kitties in his sleep. Toes and feet twitching.??
eclare
@Quinerly: Good, I saw earlier that the vet hadn’t called, which was good. Glad surgery went well, and he is snoozing/out of it!
Suzanne
What is heartbreaking about this chart is that the two counties I have lived in the longest in my life are 1) Maricopa County, AZ, and 2) Suffolk County, NY.
LORD DELIVER ME FROM EVIL.
eclare
@cain: I have heard it is the “March Madness” operation. Guys get it done Thursday morning, then spend the long weekend in bed with plenty to watch on tv.
germy
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I think she might be taking steps to give them away. sniff-sniff.
rikyrah
AMEN
AMEN
AMEN
I wish someone would FrontPage this:
Jennifer Gunter @DrJenGunter
This what I think of the “I regret voting for Trump” Op Eds
9:13 PM – Aug 17, 2017
https://twitter.com/DrJenGunter/status/898367148296290304
Yarrow
@eclare: Another connection is Bannon’s relationship with Nigel Farage. From a June article in The Guardian.
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
I will never tell him! (But will hold the info in abeyance in case there is a need for, you should excuse the expression, leaks.)
Mnemosyne
@Gelfling 545:
The current thinking is apparently that George III had bipolar disorder, not porphyria. Turns out that his physician was giving him an herbal remedy known to turn urine blue.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Oh, no! I thought they had managed to work their way into her soft heart.
Quinerly
@eclare:
Thanks for your sweet words.
ET
I am amused that the first letter of every paragraph of that group “We QUIT” letter from the presidential arts group spells out RESIST. Wonder if anyone at the WH caught it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Several years ago, I no longer remember why, I took an* herbal supplement that was heavy on the chlorophyll. My pee was always the most luscious shade of chartreuse.
*sorry, Steve in the ATL
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
?
SiubhanDuinne
@ET:
I doubt anyone at the WH caught it on their own, but it’s turned into enough of a meme that key advisors are surely aware of it by now.
Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: I love that Chuck Close and Thom Mayne, both of whom I admire very much, signed that letter.
Fuck with artists and architects, man. I dare you.
Quinerly
Trump’s people tried to call Heather’s mother during the funeral. What a fucked up WH. Can’t even get the basics right.
Major Major Major Major
@Quinerly: or they’re just that big of assholes.
efgoldman
@Major Major Major Major:
Mom is on the warpath. Has said she wouldn’t accept a call from Mango Menace regardless. They pissed off the wrong mama.
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
Sixteen of the seventeen members signed the letter.All seventeen members signed the letter. They resigned en masse. Yes, Melania Trump is Honorary Chair, and yes, there are a number of Cabinet officials who are ex officio on the committee, but the ones who count — the ones actually from the arts community — looked around, said “Fuck this, we’re outta here,” and walked away, leaving a nice little acrostic in their wake.Quinerly
@Major Major Major Major:
MSNBC broadcasted much of the funeral. Obviously, Fox didn’t. I think I just understood from a snippet of an interview with the mom that the WH was frantically leaving messages that the president was trying to get in touch…THE DAY OF HER CHILD’S FUNERAL.
germy
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: …or both.
Quinerly
@germy:
Well, well, well….what do we have here??
Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: We’re funny like that.
NoraLenderbee
@Major Major Major Major: I’ve heard men say they wouldn’t want to be shooting blanks. Like sperm are a defensive weapon.
chris
@germy: Awww yisss!
Quinerly
@germy:
Gorka is conveniently on vacation: http://www.thedailybeast.com/seb-gorkas-fate-extremely-uncertain-as-his-boss-bannon-is-ousted
rikyrah
Matthew DowdVerified account @matthewjdowd
Not a single member of Trump’s Evangelical Council has resigned. We have learned corporate America has a greater moral compass. So so sad.
11:28 AM – 16 Aug 2017
germy
@Quinerly: Who gets custody of the White Board?
Yarrow
@Suzanne: What are you hearing locally about Trump’s upcoming visit to Phoenix?
Quinerly
@germy:
Good question.
Major Major Major Major
@NoraLenderbee: well let’s not pretend that some men aren’t idiots.
Quinerly
Rachel Maddow is on fire tonight!
Yarrow
Oh, great.
eclare
@rikyrah: Nope, linked downstairs, one finally resigned today. Here
If you google his church and him I can see why he would quit. Seemed odd for him to serve in the first place.
chris
@NoraLenderbee: Every sperm is sacred!
Matt McIrvin
@SiubhanDuinne: She’s turned against Trump bigly. She wrote a column that got some attention recently that was in her Maureen Dowd-lite style, about how Trump’s problem was his lack of manliness.
SiubhanDuinne
Not to be impatient or anything, but weren’t there supposed to be some new poll numbers coming out around an hour ago? NEEDS FRIDAY NEWS DUMP PLZ!!
eclare
@rikyrah: How is your sister?
germy
?BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne: From what I’ve heard, they’re internals. We may never see them.
Raven
Long day. Hit the water at 7am for a 5 hr nearshore trip. I caught 18 Spanish mackerel, a few smaller fish and a decent bonnet head shark (released). I fed 8 people, smoked a bunch and still have 10 or so filets. It’s brutally hot here on Edisto Island but we were moving on the water so it was tolerable. Just saw the Bannon deal, nice.
SiubhanDuinne
@Matt McIrvin:
I thought that was Bobo. Oh god, I’m so confused (sobs ??????).
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Normal polls should be rolling out in a couple days though.
SiubhanDuinne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
No, that can’t possibly be right.
SiubhanDuinne
@Raven:
Saw some of your pix, very nice.
germy
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I think it would have been much better if they hadn’t said a word about that and waited for someone to notice it. Saying “look how clever we are!” doesn’t really make them look clever.
Yarrow
@Raven: That sounds like a good day.
Raven
@SiubhanDuinne: I didn’t bring a computer with and sd slot so none of the stuff from the good camera are up yet.
ljt
@Raven: de-lurking to welcome you to my town! Wish I could have come to dinner.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: If Steve Bannon was the biggest voice of reason in the White House, we are in even bigger trouble than I realized, and I didn’t think that was even possible.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Come on, leakers!
TS
@Quinerly: Probably deliberate – trump did not want to talk to her.
JPL
@Raven: During the Trump era we have 24 hour news dumps. Forget the olden days where you could expect something on a Friday night. Happy fishing.
Raven
@ljt: Edisto?… low country boil and grilled mackerel https://flic.kr/p/WBYedH
ljt
@Raven: Yes-Jungle Road. Yum!
SiubhanDuinne
@TS:
“We tried. God knows, we tried.”
TS
@rikyrah:
First one has gone “My statement regarding my resignation from the President’s Evangelical Advisory Board”
edit – already posted by eclare above
Raven
@ljt: That is so cool! I went out with Fontaine Charter today. Really nice young man was the guide and we just smoked em. We’re in that goofy golf townhouse joint. My bride’s family rented over near the beach but this was the best we could get for just 2 people and 2 doggies. We’re going home in the early morning, I would have never guessed a BJ’r here!
Fair Economist
@Yarrow: I don’t think Bannon was a useful good influence. He was advocating, or at least pretending to advocate, some good things like higher taxes on the wealthy and infrastructure but those weren’t going to happen. Breitbart’s stands indicate he’s probably a shutdown *advocate*, if anything. He was against war with North Korea, but so is every other adviser still standing. OTOH he was a big advocate of voter suppression, breaking up families, ICE fascism, border walls, etc. He won’t be missed.
schrodingers_cat
The bigger problem is with the man that heads the government and not the people he has appointed. So staff musical chairs are not going to help much.
Davebo
@Raven: How many of you were fishing? Cause the limit on Spanish Mackeral is 15 per day per angler!
schrodingers_cat
@TS: Rats are abandoning the sinking ship.
eclare
@Raven: All of a sudden I’m hungry, don’t know why.
Raven
@Davebo: 1! I splurged on a guided trip since I still had my fishing dough from our ill-fated fall trip last year.
Raven
@Davebo: I guess the guide counted, I asked him if he wanted any and he said no.
ljt
@Raven: Too bad you won’t be here Monday for the eclipse. Been mostly lurking here for I can’t remember how long (definitely pre-Rosie). Weird how I feel I know you, and wish I’d known you were here so I could say hi!
randy khan
@WaterGirl:
It would have been best if they hadn’t done it at all. The literary stunt draws attention away from the substance.
TS
@schrodingers_cat: There was some media reporting that the evangelicals were not leaving the ship – hopefully gave them something to think about.
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah:
That is excellent!
Raven
@ljt: Dang, this was such a whirlwind, we have to get back or I’d try to work it out?
Davebo
@Raven: Guided trips are almost always worth the money! Hell I’ve hired guides to fish tournaments, but only charity tournaments.
Still, part of the guides job is to help you stay legal.
randy khan
The decimation continues – I just saw that 12 of the 15 members of the Commerce Department’s Digital Economy Board of Advisors have resigned in the last few days. The people who resigned included someone from Comcast, Zoe Baird (remember her?), the president of Microsoft, the CEO of Consumer Reports, the CEO of Silicon Valley Bank, the CEO of Weightwatchers, the executive chairwoman of Mozilla, and the president of IEEE. Austan Goolsbee had been on the board and resigned in January, so there are only two people left.
Raven
@Davebo: well, I went back to the pictures and counted them and there are 15. He never said a word, I just caught them and when it slowed down we moved in to see if we could get a tarpon. I counted them while he was getting the cleaning stuff together and, bending that it was about a thousand degrees in the shade I miscounted,
burnspbesq
@Mary G:
But not nearly far enough. Still a lot do do.
burnspbesq
I’ve been here since 1986, and I’m normally OK with incremental change, but Dornan to Royce in 31 years is a small goddam increment.
Omnes Omnibus
Try Dave Obey to Sean Duffy and then talk to my parents.
frosty
@Raven: I’m not a fisherman in the least but that sounds like a great day. Hell, being on the water for (almost) any reason is a great day. I’m partial to sailing myself and don’t get out nearly often enough.
Ken_L
They range from meaningless to not terribly important? How can that be? According to the “Clinton Cash” brigade, someone bribed Hillary with millions just to get appointed to one.