Per WH sources: Trump improvised 'fire and fury' — paper he looked was an opioid fact sheet. Kelly 'surprised' not shocked… more tk
— Glenn Thrush (@GlennThrush) August 9, 2017
"The White House, including the national-security team, was unaware President Trump was preparing to speak publicly about North Korea."
— John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) August 9, 2017
GFD someone drop another tick tick tick tick story so he rages about that instead of trying to impress Foxnews with his nuclear strap on
— Local Milk Steak (@ZeddRebel) August 9, 2017
Sources say Trump was speaking extemporaneously about North Korea, but perhaps now isn't the best time to improvise. –@jaketapper pic.twitter.com/12XRcduDm0
— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) August 9, 2017
Actually, it was Obama who launched $1-trillion modernization of the nuclear arsenal. A 30-year program. https://t.co/jLiWzWZSQV
— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) August 9, 2017
Whoever invented the game of RISK has a lot to answer for…
Also this morning, a White House adviser likened the Trump-Kim brinksmanship to the Cuban missile crisis https://t.co/vEGyJrVOFl
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) August 9, 2017
What idiot came up with that wrongheaded analog– oh, of course, it was Gorka. https://t.co/27XnJK3jZJ
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) August 9, 2017
Leaving aside means and only looking at outcome, regime change for North Korea would be a great outcome from a humanitarian perspective.
— Eli Lake (@EliLake) August 9, 2017
Maybe Kim Jong Un needs to send Dennis Rodman to talk some sense to the regime in Washington DC.
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) August 9, 2017
The time 38yo Trump pitched Reagan (via WaPo style section) on becoming the lead nuclear negotiator w/ the Soviets. Roy Cohn's idea, natch. pic.twitter.com/5EJjPl431v
— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) October 6, 2016
No serious American President, with at least 1,550 U.S. nuclear warheads on alert, should ever have made the public threat Trump did today.
— Walter Pincus (@walterpincus) August 8, 2017
No President with 15 nuclear weapons should’ve made it either. https://t.co/xMSXRK60Jv
— Bear Braumoeller (@Prof_BearB) August 9, 2017
TenguPhule
Must be another day ending in Y.
Mike J
The Game Is Over and North Korea Has Won
debbie
He’s even lost the WSJ:
TenguPhule
Leaving aside means and looking at outcome, removing 60 million Republicans from the planet would be a great outcome from humanity’s perspective.
TenguPhule
Anne, everyone knows you start from Australia and take over the world from there.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Mike J:
Thanks shit for brain voters and GOP! You helped destroy American global power because “negroes gettin’ free college and jumping ahead in line, strangers in our own country argle bargle”. God I wish these people would just fucking die in the most agonizing, slow, and humiliating way possible tommorrow.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: I’ve only written something on that here twice since the election. Did they link back?
Adam L Silverman
Apparently they’re going to put the seal in SEAL Team! This is going to be the strangest predeployment equipment draw ever!
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Stop making wishes you may actually live long enough to regret.
Nuclear blasts don’t pick and choose their victims.
lollipopguild
@debbie: Rupert owns Trump. Trump would not be president without Ailes/Murdoch and Fake Noise.
Mike J
@Adam L Silverman: Did you see my q in the previous thread re wtf is happening with the US embassy in Cuba? Seems odd to ship home people for medical reasons and kick their dips out of the US in retaliation.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
So Trump’s watersports in Russia involved actual beastility?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
I doubt the North Koreans can reach Bumfuck Nowhere, Iowa.
ETA: And anyway I was thinking, unrealistically, that they would die in such a way that no one else would be harmed. It was just an expression of frustration. They’ve ruined MY country and I want it back.
schrodingers_cat
OT Software question: Has anyone used Office 16 and how do you like it. Thanks.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: Nope. I’ve been offline (in and out and phone calls) most of the day. Let me pull up a link.
lollipopguild
@Adam L Silverman: Seal Team Furry is going in. They are based on the U.S.S. Furryliscious.
NobodySpecial
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I equally doubt they can reach the White House or Mar-A-Lago, either. Grow the fuck up.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: Okay, I just read the reporting. I got nothing. That is just strange. It is almost like two completely separate events – US diplomatic personnel getting sick in 2016 and being medevaced back to the US for treatment and the US declaring two Cuban diplomatic personnel persona non grata and sending them home – got mashed up into one news story even though they’re not/may not be related.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
They can reach us out here and on the west coast just fine. “But I didn’t mean it!” isn’t going to bring anyone back from the ashes.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: Warning tags!! For the love of anyone’s Deity or Deities or no one’s: WARNING TAGS!!!!!!!!!!!
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
I have no control over any of it. If it happens, god forbid, than my wish up there would have had nothing to do with it. It would have happened anyway.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Trump: Ivanka, I want you to bark like a seal.
#Youwerewarned
hovercraft
@TenguPhule:
Obviously you can leave aside the thousands, hundreds of thousands, or millions who’d be “adversely affected” by a preemptive strike, they would after all be mostly people of color, even if they are the most acceptable non white people. Sometimes you’ve just got to be able to make sacrifices for the greater good. Killing off the GOP base would be a net benefit for humanity, but the loss of that many white people would be unacceptable. Also too, while I hate them more everyday, I refuse to devolve to their level of inhumanity.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Right now they can’t reach anyone in the continental US. They haven’t solved their ICBM reentry issue. Until or unless they do all the DPRK has is very, very expensive bottle rockets.
Roger Moore
Leaving aside the means and only looking at outcome, me having a billion dollars would be a great outcome from a financial perspective.
This is just begging for a hashtag game.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@TenguPhule: In the Risk-style game Pandemic 2, if you don’t start from Madagascar you’re pretty much fucked.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Smells like 2002 spirit.
Adam L Silverman
The next person that suggests, even jokingly, killing people you don’t agree with is going in time out. Am I clear?
TenguPhule
@hovercraft:
I just like to point out the sheer absurdity of what they’re saying.
Every single one of them is batshit insane.
Roger Moore
@Adam L Silverman:
Sea otters would be better; they’re supposed to have the best fur in the animal kingdom.
Adam L Silverman
@Roger Moore: It is also a stupid comment by someone who hasn’t the foggiest clue as to what is likely to happen if/when the DPRK government falls. Regardless of how it falls.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
I don’t live in the continental US. I’m out on an island in the middle of the Ocean. Not part of Real America at all. //
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@hovercraft: And the cities are mostly cosmopolitan elites anyway.
Adam L Silverman
@Roger Moore: I will make a note in the logistics and acquisitions file.
TenguPhule
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
True. Of course the one time I lucked out, I got the “reduced lethality” mutation and ended up infecting the entire planet, but not wiping out humanity.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
I read it as snarky. But that’s just me
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Roger Moore: Actually even the short term outcome of “regime change” or regime collapse in DPRK would be problematic for it’s neighbors(mainly China and the ROK) in a major way. Korean reunification would be Germany on steroids.
ETA: I see Adam got there first.
different-church-lady
@Adam L Silverman: How about if they are spirited off the planet by aliens?
hovercraft
@TenguPhule:
Too true, I get the need to vent.
Armadillo
Isn’t Trump the guy who a few months ago didn’t know what the nuclear triad is?
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/donald-trump-has-no-idea-what-americas-nuclear-triad-is-1748283463
?BillinGlendaleCA
@hovercraft: Nice to see you, wondered where you’d been.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: If Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands then you’re good. If Hawaii or Guam or the Marianas they can reach you with some of their other weapons. And I’m not trying to be flippant. The nuclear weapon threat is directly tied to the ICBM threat. Though, to be honest, my take is that Kim wants it for the deterrent and not to use offensively.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): @TenguPhule:
In Plague,Inc. I always go with the strat of making the disease as infectious and innocuous as possible to avoid detection. Start out in a poor area, try to get as many transmission modes as possible. The hardest places to infect are always Greenland or Iceland, because of the climate.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
I vote to use the river otters at the LA Zoo. They’re the most adorable killing machines I’ve ever seen.
(I hope that doesn’t get me a time out …)
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: It’s Eli Lake. The baseline assumption is dumb as a stump.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@TenguPhule: I completed it under all three pathogens while in middle school a few times. Like, at least twice. Plague Inc. (and, I imagine, Pandemic 2.5) are less annoying anyway.
Adam L Silverman
@different-church-lady: Sure, fine.
TenguPhule
@hovercraft:
Since I’m going to be even closer to the fireworks then usual, I really didn’t need Trump to increase my chances of being vaporized in an atomic fireball on my vacation by a non-trivial amount.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Adam L Silverman:
Thank you, Adam.
Villago Delenda Est
@debbie: The WSJ loses it again. There is no “Trump Leadership” to speak of in any way, shape or form.
schrodingers_cat
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I used to be a cosmopolitan elite and now I am country bumpkin.
hovercraft
@Adam L Silverman:
Okay Dad ;)
@different-church-lady:
I hear the journey to Mars will soon be possible, since they love to conquer new places……
and added bonus, as far as I know there are no people of color there. Utopia!
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Yes. And I am going to be in Japan.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
I want apologize for my comment above. I didn’t take the recent NK crap into the equation when I said it. I just don’t see T’s supporters going away anytime soon. They’re dangerous.
Mike J
@Mnemosyne: River otters are poop machines. Ask the guy who sails a boat with a cutaway transom.
schrodingers_cat
@hovercraft: I was wondering where you were this morning. I haven’t seen you around much, I too have been around much. How have you been?
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: Well, yes. Lake has demonstrated that with this one tweet.
Baud
The To Serve Man loophole. Nice, different-church-lady.
Chyron HR
Leaving aside means and only looking at outcome, regime change for the United States of America would be a great outcome from a humanitarian perspective.
hovercraft
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Summertime, kids, new job, and basically too disheartened by the shitshow to comment. I’ve been mostly true to my name, just hovering.
Baud
@hovercraft: Congrats on the new job.
And the kids.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I’ll second that… I was close to asking to if anyone had seen our little Hovercraft.
Gelfling 545
Kelly was surprised? Surely by now he shouldn’t be surprised if Trump said the slithy toves did gyre in the wabe or that he was the emperess of all the Russias.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman:
It sure seems that way, although having been bombarded with nothing but “THE NORTH KOREANS ARE NUTS!!1!” messages since forever and a day, it’s the ultimate ‘lift’ to try and explain to the American people now that the DPRK was actually acting pretty rationally in trying to get nukes.
And that would be *if* we had an administration even slightly interested in conveying that reality – we clearly don’t.
Would be nice if one of these generals could explain to Trumpov that he’d look even tougher if he told Kim: “Congrats – you have a handful, we have thousands. You’d better behave or we’ll work with China and keep your imports at subsistence levels”.
Then again, that would involve North Korea actually believing that Trumpov could work with China…sigh…
Mnemosyne
@Mike J:
And this makes them less ideal for wartime use how, again … ? ?
dmsilev
@TenguPhule: When you sound like Stanley Kubrick’s spoof of Curtis LeMay, it’s time to reevaluate your life choices.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Have fun in Japan and stay safe
Villago Delenda Est
@Gelfling 545: Waaay too 19th Century literary reference dropping for Donald.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Apology accepted. I get that you didn’t really mean it, but this sudden ratcheting up of “very bad things” is not something that’s conductive to that kind of gallows humor.
Jeffro
@hovercraft:
1) Welcome back!
2) Please hate only the GOP white people.
3) Keep refusing to devolve even an inch – stay up on the high road with (most of) the rest of us! :)
TenguPhule
@hovercraft:
But are you still full of eels?
schrodingers_cat
@hovercraft: Mars has a thin atmosphere, It can get pretty cold at nights. Avg temp = -67 F
different-church-lady
BROKAW: Alright, we got it?
DIRECTOR: No. We’ve got “eaten by wolves”.
BROKAW: What? Now, come on!
DIRECTOR: Just read it!
BROKAW: Gerald Ford isn’t gonna be eaten by wolves!
DIRECTOR: Taft was.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Baud: OMG that’s too funny ?
JPL
@Armadillo: We aren’t sure that he knows it now.
just sayin
TenguPhule
Also, Debt Ceiling Crisis.
The currency markets are betting on a default. Yen is being shorted with big money.
Fuck Republicans for ruining my vacation. Again.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: I’m assuming that any unauthorized probing by the aliens would be punishment enough.
Mike J
@Adam L Silverman: I found this:
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-08-09/us-expels-2-cuban-diplomats-after-incidents-in-cuba
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: Are you suggesting that wishing does indeed make it so? Bibbity, bobbety, boo?
Mike J
@schrodingers_cat:
In fact it’s cold as hell
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@different-church-lady: One of my absolute favs! I could watch it on repeat forever…
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: Yep.
TenguPhule
@Gelfling 545: Correlation is not causation. Still doesn’t help with the feelings of guilt.
Roger Moore
@Adam L Silverman:
Sea otters supposedly also figured into the purchase of Alaska. Hunting them for fur was the Russians’ primary economic activity in Alaska, so when they were hunted out they decided the territory wasn’t worth the cost of defending from an expected British attack in the event of another war. They decided to sell it before it got taken away, and the US was the ideal buyer because it was assumed we’d also serve as a check on British interest in the area.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: Okay. That’s something I’d expect in Moscow, not Havana.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
And on your vacation be sure to give us updates.
jimmiraybob
Any chance that “Fire and Fury” is the name of a porn flick? Has anybody checked yet?
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Even more adorable than house cats?
hovercraft
@Baud:
Today I’d really love to send the 14 year old girl back to sender, but thanks ; )
@TenguPhule:
Ha !
@schrodingers_cat:
Shh, not so loud.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
Are there size and weight classes, or just overall? Because giant river otters are 5 or 6 feet long.
p.a.
@Adam L Silverman: I recommend Slates in Hallowell.
MomSense
@Adam L Silverman:
Hahaha!! I recognize that paper.
Villago Delenda Est
@Jeffro: Where this whole thing was blown was when the deserting coward ditched the dialog Clinton had started with NK (because CLINTON!) and then pretty deliberately said “you’re next, slant eyes” to them in the early aughts, then invaded Iraq, giving NK all the encouragement they needed to develop a nuclear arsenal as a deterrent.
Same thing with Iran.
Then again, some dipshits on Twitter are very aptly using the US crushing of Iraq’s conventional, large military in 2003 as the scenario for dealing with NK, ignoring terrain, lack of intel on how the NK civilian populace will react, etc and describing a cake walk. Which, it turns out, even Iraq was not.
Lee
@schrodingers_cat:
A colleague & I have had it about 48 hours.
I did like that Outlook remembered my pst files (2013 I had to reconnect all of them). Outlook seems to run a bit better than ’13 did (but that is not saying much).
JWR
Just heard a news flash that NK now says they’re planning to attack in the waters around Guam by the middle of either this or next month. (Wasn’t paying much attention, so I may be off on both the time and location.)
Wait, they’re going to attack water?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Roger Moore: I’ve seen sea otters and they’re much more adorable than house cats; then again, I’m on team dog.
Another Scott
Reuters: DPRK to develop Guam strike plan by mid-August:
It’s a good thing that there’s nothing to worry about and everyone can sleep well at night, huh.
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Villago Delenda Est
@JWR: Well, they apparently are still having problems with reentry details on their missiles, so “in the vicinity of” is the best they can do at this time.
Adam L Silverman
@Villago Delenda Est: It will not be possible for 1AD to make a speed run from Seoul to Pyongyang as it did from Kuwait to Baghdad in 2003. Then MG Dempsey had the terrain on his side. My former boss MG White would not.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@JWR:
Probably just to freak out the US by detonating weapons near Guam. Doubt they’ll have great accuracy. Like Adam said, It won’t be a nuclear weapon. Probably a long range conventional warhead.
Mike J
@Another Scott: “This is extremely getting on the nerves of the infuriated Hwasong artillerymen”
ruemara
This was… concerning, to say the least. I can’t fathom the level of anti-government people we now have in government. How can they be contained and rooted out, effectively? God, fuck third party purists to the nth degree. I blame them more than anyone else.
Millard Filmore
@schrodingers_cat:
They can deal with that through the free market.
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: Ayup. You remember M*A*S*H the TV series? The hilly areas of southern California where it was filmed are a pretty good approximation of the actual terrain between Seoul and Pyongyang. Not ideal tank country.
Villago Delenda Est
@Another Scott: These guys are trolling Donald big time, and he’s falling for it every single time.
different-church-lady
@Another Scott: It’s The Madman Theory, except there’s two madmen.
TenguPhule
@Villago Delenda Est:
And Iraq’s military was hollowed out by sanctions and lack of suppliers.
NK, doesn’t have that problem. Mainly because the rulers don’t give a shit about anything but their military.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: Cartman gets an anal probe! Classic. Cannot believe it’s been 20 years, almost to the day. Sheesh.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
If we all survive long enough.
debbie
Someone needs to sit Trump down and give him a history lesson, pointing out that WWI resulted from a few misunderstood words between friends combined with a stubborn refusal to back down or to compromise.
Davebo
@Adam L Silverman:
Giving up nukes once you’ve aquired them has a long history of bad outcomes (see Ukraine, Libya).
JWR
@Villago Delenda Est: @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Yes, but even inaccuracy can be quite unnerving, especially if one of them lands on or explodes near your fishing boat, airliner, etc. What unnerves me even more is waiting for Trump to start a nuclear war with a stupid Tweet.
debbie
@Yarrow:
Trump is Cartman!
Villago Delenda Est
@JWR: Folk in the Pentagon dread that, too.
TS
But.. but .. but the media told me things would be different with Gen Kelly as head of staff – now we would see the “real” President being presidential
In their dreams
What will get the media to except the country is led by a madman – and what does it take to get the fool of the morning to stop bringing up Obama and Clinton (both sides) when talking about the trump disaster.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
If the worst comes to worst, I’m sure Trump will be such an insufferable asshole in the bunker that the others, probably McMaster, Kelly, Secret Service, will mutiny and kill him and the rest of his WH clowns.
JWR
@Villago Delenda Est:
That’s what unnerves me. (Jeebus, our manboy preznit is such a tool!)
ET
Particularly when Fox News is talking about a yuge blow up chicken at the Elipse. (Hope that link worked)
dmsilev
@debbie:
Trump lacks the calm demeanor and analytic skills of Kaiser Wilhelm.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Villago Delenda Est:
You mean this area?
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
For Mnem, lamnh, and anyone else who shares our taste in future ex-husbands: Today at Worldcon in Helsinki
Doug R
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah, we don’t want radioactive debris raining down on the west coast either.
Mnemosyne
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
Nice! I actually have his autograph in my Hamilton book — he was at my friend’s recording studio so she had him sign it for me.
And the author who referred to the Salmon of Correction was Mary Jo Putney, FWIW. She’s jumping back and forth between Regency and fantasy romance right now and just had a short story published in the same collection as Lois McMaster Bujold.
Villago Delenda Est
@?BillinGlendaleCA: THAT’S IT! Pan up a bit and look at those hills. Very much looks like the terrain to the North of Seoul.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Doug R:
That kind of thing tend to harsh your mellow.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Villago Delenda Est: This is true, I’ve been to both places.
mai naem mobile
@debbie: he thinks he is in a movie or tv series. You can’t teach him history. It would be like teaching a 2 year old history . They don’t understand the significance of historical events.
Mike in NC
@dmsilev: Otto Von Bismarck is supposed to have said that the Kaiser expected to be treated like a child whose every day was his birthday. Sound familiar?
FlipYrWhig
@different-church-lady: From memory:
“Can you work the word ‘senseless’ into it?”
“Gerald Ford, dead today, eaten by wolves at the senseless age of 83.”
Doug R
@TenguPhule: He is no longer infected.
SatanicPanic
@Doug R: Less tourists! More beach for us!
dmsilev
@Doug R:
On the plus side, it’d do wonders for the national production rate of Hulks and Spider-men.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mike in NC: He must have been referring to Wilhelm II.
sylvania
@Adam L Silverman: What’s this? Actual facts? How dare you!
hellslittlestangel
@schrodingers_cat: Unless you want to do advanced data analysis in Excel, you’re better off with an earlier, less-resource-hoggish version. I recommend Office 2010, which has the best Help feature.
Another Scott
@schrodingers_cat: I saw downstairs that you have Office 10.
My personal vote is:
1) if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Meaning, unless you need to exchange documents with newer file formats with others (.xlsx, .docx, etc.) and need perfect fidelity, there’s little reason to “upgrade”. The new version will be bigger, it will have the “ribbon” interface (which means it takes at least one more mouse click to do anything than it did with the older version, and the ribbon takes up space, etc.), and it will tax your PC more than the older version.
2) MS is trying to get everyone to move to their “365” version of Office – which is their online, annual subscription version. Some advantages, but understand the costs and issues.
3) If you need something newer, look at LibreOffice. It’s a very good free clone. Exchanging XLSx and DOCx stuff between MS and LO generally works very well in my experience. PPTx is a little more cranky, but PPTx is cranky on MS between PCs and Macs, so … :-/
HTH a little.
Cheers,
Scott.
schrodingers_cat
@hellslittlestangel: I already have that. I can get it a low price was wondering if it was worth the trouble of upgrading. I do do a lot of data analysis use the Analysis Tool Pack and Pivot tables, write my own macros and all that good stuff. Apparently you can also input handwritten equations in the new Word, that’s a feature I can see myself using a lot and so on.
MomSense
Ok in happy news I just finished the first draft of my children’s story. It is a ROUGH first draft but it’s a start.
Betty Cracker
So this evening, Trump tweeted this video that’s a montage of himself being a big shot in various scenes with Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” as the soundtrack. Yep! Totally normal!
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
Nothing matters anymore.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: I would do that, but my soundtrack would be Lola.
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
So, is it a legit typo, or photoshopped? Have you seen the dead-tree edition?
(ETA: I very much want it to be an actual typo.)
sylvania
Has this been reported anywhere yet? It was several days ago but I don’t remember seeing any news about it.
FBI Raids Paul Manafort’s Home
dmsilev
@schrodingers_cat: The equation editor in recent versions of Word will, to some extent, parse LaTeX commands. Seems to work mostly for symbols and the like, but not for structures like fractions, for which you still have to use the icon toolbar.
Another Scott
@TenguPhule: Everything Counts (3:58)
Cheers,
Scott.
JWR
@TenguPhule:
Nuff’ said. ;-(
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
Henceforth, this video will play on a loop whenever the twice-daily Propaganda File is delivered and
reviewedslobbered over.Betty Cracker
@Baud: I think mine would be “Waters of March.” The Susannah McCorkle version.
ETA: And I would be pictured waving away boxer farts, burning scones, being mobbed by chickens, etc.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
Yay! As Anne Lamott says, shitty first drafts are what everyone writes. Getting it down is the most important thing.
gene108
As bad as Trump is, Bush, Jr landed us in this mess.
If they did not undo the Clinton Admin deal with North Korea, threaten them, name them as part of the Axis of Evil, etc, they might not have restarted their nuclear program.
Of all the failures of Bush, Jr, this gets overlooked all the time.
Shana
@dmsilev: And think of the savings on CGI.
joel hanes
@Adam L Silverman:
The next person …
Thank you, Adam.
SiubhanDuinne
@sylvania:
News broke only today, apparently. I have no idea how it was kept quiet for two or three weeks.
I think it was discussed in comments in one of the earlier threads today but hasn’t been front-paged AFAIK (have been running around a lot and am not yet caught up on the day’s BJ).
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
Love that song, and love McCorkle’s cover of it.
schrodingers_cat
@gene108: R presidents keep getting worse in every iteration, with T we have are approaching a point of singularity.
hovercraft
@Betty Cracker:
So he’s sharing his latest “propaganda” briefing with the world?
Mnemosyne
@joel hanes:
Look, if I’m no longer allowed to imagine the Trumpsters being eaten by giant river otters from South America, then what’s the point of posting here? //
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Villago Delenda Est:
OK(slightly different location, but ya get the idea)
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
I think we’ve already crossed the event horizon and are stuck looking at the naked singularity.
Or we will, once the tape is finally broadcast.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Kittens, Puppies and gardens.
hovercraft
@sylvania:
msnbc has been talking about it all day. Coincidentally on the day of the raid Twitler sent several tweets bitching about Mueller and Rosenstein.
joel hanes
@hellslittlestangel:
you’re better off with an earlier, less-resource-hoggish version
That you can actually buy an indefinite-term license for, instead of renting the license yearly.
That keeps your data on your disk, rather than in the cloud.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: How about man-eating tigers of Sunderbans or the gharials?//
schrodingers_cat
@joel hanes: I thought that was Microsoft 365. This thing lives on my puter.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Countryside north of Seoul.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
More Eli Lake-ism
at least this hump seems to be some sort of finance-douche and is probably only asked his opinions on war and geopolitics by viewers-deserts like Fox Business
joel hanes
@Mnemosyne:
giant river otters from South America
I am compelled to link to the world’s only known thread about
giant radioactive telepathic beavers
TenguPhule
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Adam, does it count if we wish for JacobAWohl to be stuffed into an artillery shell and fired out to sea?
I’m pretty sure it could be arranged so he survives the experience.
joel hanes
@schrodingers_cat:
right you are.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@schrodingers_cat:
Office 365 is great on my laptop. Got it for free through my university.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
You owe me yet another keyboard.
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
Don’t get me wrong, I do love tigers, but the giant river otters have a slide!
Also, too, I discovered on this last trip to Chicago that the famous man-eating lions that they made the movie The Ghost and the Darkness about were taxidermied after they were killed and ended up at the Field Museum. Who knew?
Major Major Major Major
“We have a top-secret plan to attack America. It is nuking Guam, around 5am on August 23rd. This is totally not sabre rattling. p.s. I am not a crank”
hellslittlestangel
@schrodingers_cat: Well, if you can get a good deal, and you’d really use the advanced stuff (I’m thinking of Power BI in Excel 2016), then go for it. But two definite negatives about 2016: 1) All the Help is online — you have to search, and the results that come back are 90% grossly irrelevant; 2) The interface is seriously ugly — it took me months to accept that there wasn’t something wrong with my graphics card, that they made it that way on purpose.
jacy
@hovercraft: and now it seems the National Enquirer is dishing about Manafort’s affair. Think he’s flipped?
hellslittlestangel
Office 365 is paid for by subscription. What happens after you graduate or quit?
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
I think we’re supposed to avoid wishing harm on specific individuals.
I hope Trumpsters get eaten by giant river otters is less specific.
Yarrow
@sylvania: @SiubhanDuinne: Betty Cracker posted a front page post about it this morning. Link.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@schrodingers_cat: It still really, really wants you to save everything to OneDrive. I just put shortcuts to my most used directories into OneDrive so I could easily get to where I really wanted to be when it had a brain fart and dragged me back there.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
I’d be more concerned that they intend to test fire around Guam.
Given the displayed accuracy record so far, Guam might actually be safer as the designated target.
All it takes is one thing to go wrong for everything to go wrong.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
He explicitly said we’re not supposed to be wishing death on our enemies.
Nothing was said about crippling injuries.
JWR
@gene108:
Very true. Every time I think of Iran, Iraq, Syria, ISIS/ISIL, (etc. etc.), and now North Korea, all I can think of is Shrub, along with his wrecking crew and their direct responsibility for this sh*t..
BTW, is anyone tracking Dennis Rodman’s movements? Because once he’s left the country for greener, ie. not yet nuked pastures, it’ll be time to start Duckin’ & Coverin’! //
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Looks like I picked the wrong week to hide incriminating documents in Paul Manafort’s house.
Major Major Major Major
@Major Major Major Major: @TenguPhule: “there are too many states. Please eliminate three of them.”
Yarrow
@jacy: I think it’s two things. One, yes he has flipped to a certain extent, but as was evident by the search that made news today, he isn’t fully cooperating with them or has withheld information. Second, since the National Enquirer’s owner is best buddies with Trump it’s an indication that Trump is throwing Manafort under the bus. They’ll hope that they can blame Manafort for everything and get away without charges themselves. Not going to work, but that’s their tactic.
If Manafort was hoping for a pardon from Trump the National Enquirer thing is also an indication he’s less likely to get one.
Mnemosyne
@joel hanes:
Another thing I saw at the Field Museum was the fossil remains of a giant beaver from the Ice Age. It was kind of scary, actually.
TenguPhule
Why is it that the lyrics from Les Poissons are coming to mind when I watch this Trump flustercuck?
TenguPhule
@gene108:
All the sins of the current decade can be traced to him. Every single one.
When the next regime takes over, we need to hand Bush and Cheney and all their friends over to the Iraqis to do with as they please. If any group of individuals ever deserved to be stripped of their citizenship, it was them.
SiubhanDuinne
@Yarrow:
Thanks! I even commented, well down the thread. My short-term memory is …
What was I saying again?
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: you forgot Nixon. Some of the worst Bushies and Reaganites go back to him.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Wonder if they have any at the Page Museum(aka the La Brea Tar Pits).
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@Mike J: No fooling.
gene108
@ruemara:
When I read articles like this, I feel like our institutions are broken and need to be wiped out and rebuilt.
If some folks get abducted by space aliens, I’d be okay with it.
dmbeaster
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Malibu Creek State Park. Must be an old picture since it burned down years ago in a 1982 brush fire.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dmbeaster: It’s from 1977.
TenguPhule
I’d forgotten how many times he’s done this
Its a little stunning when he goes on to list how many times this orange sack of shit has done this same song and dance on every other topic.
Our international credibility is shit now.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
The original sin. And he was the most honorable of them.
The Dangerman
So, the Cantelope Caesar is riffing about “fire and fury” with the new and improved Comms team. What would have happened if Mooch was still there?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@The Dangerman:
It’d be “fucking fire and fury”.
Mnemosyne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
They don’t seem to have had a range that stretched out here, so I’m guessing not. The Page Museum has some pretty impressive giant sloths, though.
Alain the site fixer
@schrodingers_cat: loves it
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Betty Cracker:
I’ve always wanted somebody to do a montage of police brutality scenes, urban poverty, Abu Ghraib abuses, the aftermath of Haditha and the aftermath of Mahmoudiya set to that song…
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
Everyone here has seen Forbidden Planet, right?
Trump is the monster produced by the Republican id
Cronenberg’s The Brood is also instructive.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: he totally is, did I see that metaphor here first?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne:
I know, I’ve seen my relatives there.
FlipYrWhig
@The Dangerman: @?BillinGlendaleCA: “Fuckin’ fire and fury rammed right up their candy-ass like a red white and blue American cock!”
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@TenguPhule:
I look at their threats of attacks on Guam as giving a six year old a pool cue, setting the cue ball on the table next to the rail, and telling the kid to do a double bank shot the length of the table.
If you don’t have global tracking systems, a six decade history of experience with rocketry testing and a lot of real estate to practice with, I think it to be a near impossible task.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
If you did, it wasn’t from me, I don’t think. But I’ve seen it floating around before.
Last night’s migraine decided to come back so I had to leave work early. Ugh.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: I just stayed in bed this morning, lol. Seems to be gone now though.
TenguPhule
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
And as I said before, I’m not worried about them intentionally hitting Guam. I’m worried they’re going to aim in Guam’s general direction and something goes horribly wrong. Their “goal” is to hit the waters about 20 miles off shore. Given their current track record, I’m concerned they will miss the water.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I should have stayed home, but I had to buy a birthday cake for the office and I couldn’t back out because the person whose birthday it was made a special point of being in the office this afternoon. I went home right after that.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: August is a very calm month for us so I wasn’t needed, didn’t even have to dial in. Which is good, I can’t imagine the code I write is any good whilst migraining.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I was pretty much okay until after lunch, but I waited too long to take my next dose of Excedrin. ?
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
Um, Stockbridge, Barrington, Northampton, etc are not exactly Hicksville, you know. (Although I get the sense you’re probably closer to Quabbin than to those places.)
p.a.
Unsourced, from Motif Mag (alt RI biweekly. Yeah, I know, but believable):
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@gene108: That’s part of the point. They want to destroy what has been built.
Captain C
@Mnemosyne: I think today’s daily Internets go to you for that analogy. Where would you like them sent?
(That was the first movie we ever taped on our VCR back in the early ’80s.)
chris
@Mnemosyne: Dance of the Dwarfs by Geoffrey Household. You might want to read it given your interest in mustelids.
Captain C
@p.a.:
Saint Giorgio, patron saint of soccer players who thought they were better than Pele but were laughably wrong.
ETA: Shouldn’t that have been 9 of each, as that was Chinaglia’s uniform number during his playing days?
TenguPhule
Disclaimer: This was not from the Onion. Seriously.
We are in so much fucking trouble.
Calouste
@TenguPhule: Eisenhower is the original sin. Besides picking Nixon as VP, he staged a coup in Iran on behalf of British petroleum.
schrodingers_cat
@SFAW: I am not near Quabbin. I was kidding. Also too. I live in a tiny town with population less than 2000. May not be hicksville but is no metropolis either.
schrodingers_cat
@Calouste: And the authors of 1920s immigration act much loved by Miller and Bannon were Rs too. Plus there was no war TR didn’t like and want to be a part of.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: I thought everyone knew that. Seriously though, I thought the Field only had one of them. I remember it as a rather disappointingly small and mangy looking thing.
sm*t cl*de
@Mike J:
I slipped on otter poop and spraint my ankle.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
I haven’t been to the Field in over 20 years, so I didn’t remember them being there. They definitely have both of them now, if they didn’t before, along with an iPad explaining their story.
They were young lions, so they’re not very big, but that makes their murder record even more impressive.
ETA: The Field also brews their own beer with a local brewery, if you’re into that kind of thing. G liked their IPA but didn’t want to pay $4.50 per bottle for a 6-pack when my brother had already given him a 12-pack of New Glarus to take home.
Wapiti
@Calouste: And pretty much failed to prevent Castro’s rise (ie, did not check the dictator Batista).
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: Humans are an easy kill compared to other animals.
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
Yup. That’s what makes big cats so dangerous — once they figure out how easy it is to catch humans, they go, Why am I wasting time and energy chasing these deer/antelope around? and start preying on humans.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Which New Glarus?
Frankensteinbeck
@TenguPhule:
This is why every time Trump declares something horrific, I don’t get excited. With bellicose threats, at this point I take it for granted he’s running his mouth and will do nothing. I noticed long ago that he verbally declares war, then gets on the phone and whines for them to surrender so he doesn’t look bad, then goes and takes a nap and forgets it all.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: I have not the slightest doubt that if he was slightly bigger, I would be bosscat’s dinner.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Bubbler and Spotted Cow.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: Miller and Bannon sounds so much like Mills and Boon.
chopper
@TenguPhule:
when I first read that I thought you said a montage of him being shot and I was all well, okay then.
Ajabu
@Adam L Silverman:
Shhhh… Don’t tip Trump to the fact that he can fuck with the territories.
Eventually I’m going home to St. Croix.
Jeffro
@Villago Delenda Est:
I think the past 7-8 US president have been kicking the NK can down the road for a while…eventually, there is a reckoning. But yes, W didn’t help the acceleration any when he threw NK in with the ‘axis of evil’ and then went on to demonstrate what happens to countries w/o nukes when we get our hackles up.
The difference being, just with regular artillery, NK can level Seoul in an hour or two, killing millions, and launch missiles at Japanese cities that will kill tens of millions. This wasn’t a factor in Iraq.
Plus we took what, almost a half-year to build up a conventional invasion force (and logistics/supplies) in friendly countries before invading Iraq? Not seeing how we do that here.
Jeffro
@Calouste: AND let the Dulles brothers create just about every mess under the sun…because communism, dontchaknow…
Mnemosyne
@Jeffro:
And that’s leaving aside the fact that China is on North Korea’s other border and would be very, very unhappy if we decided to invade.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Me, for one. My brother worked on the SFX team (Foley) for The Ghost and the Darkness and every time we have a family reunion in Chicago we have to go to the Field Museum so Steve can get a photo of himself next to the exhibit.
Yarrow
@Frankensteinbeck: I tend to agree, but he also has a tendency to do things because “you’re not the boss of me.” That’s where the real danger lies.
Steeplejack
@hellslittlestangel:
You can buy whatever version of Office you want (or use the version at the new job or situation). You can save your Office 365 documents on your own computer, so you’re not going to lose anything.
SiubhanDuinne
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Is there an entry fee? If I need cash, I might have to stop at the nearest automatic ATM teller machine.
james parente
@Mnemosyne: Can I wish them all Candirus in their bathwater?
CaseyL
@?BillinGlendaleCA: How long ago did you take those pictures? That area looks to be in really good shape for a TV show that ended over 20 years ago. Does someone take care of the place?
Anne Laurie
@Another Scott: Poor Guam. So far from God, so [politically] close to the United States.
ExpatDanBKK
@TenguPhule: Me too. Tokyo (Kitasenju Station area) 22-27 August…
Porlock Junior
@SiubhanDuinne:
The hoi polloi are doing that all over the state, from the El Camino (Silicon Valley etc) to La Callecita Street (San Diego); of course they have to remember their PIN numbers. And they may need to use a GPS system to get there.