I’d like to keep the DOE thread on those topics, so here’s a new one to pick apart Donald Trump’s latest babblefest.
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I’d like to keep the DOE thread on those topics, so here’s a new one to pick apart Donald Trump’s latest babblefest.
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TenguPhule
Its a disaster.
SiubhanDuinne
THIS. IS. NOT. NORMAL.
None of this is normal.
What this is, is fucked up.
Timurid
THIS IS FINE.
Major Major Major Major
I can’t read a quote from him much longer than 140 characters without wanting to destroy whatever I’m reading it on, so I’ll wait for the lowlight reel.
FlipYrWhig
He added: “And I got a call from the head of the Boy Scouts saying it was the greatest speech that was ever made to them, and they were very thankful.
Is this one of those things where the other person says something like “quite a speech” and Trump hears nothing but volcanic praise, like when he claimed Elijah Cummings said he’d be one of the greatest presidents?
Yarrow
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
TenguPhule
@Timurid:
Nothing matters anymore.
eclare
I tried to read that article, and I could not make it through. He makes Sarah Palin sound like a great orator by comparison. As John Oliver said after he played a clip of POS talking about China, then the world, then the universe, then the Miss Universe pageant, then ratings, “FINISH ONE FUCKING THOUGHT!”
NotMax
This is what comes from having the frontal lobes replaced with gold-colored Nerf balls. Sad!
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
Gonna need more reels. And booze.
Byrookorbycrook
Did he throw Jared a treat after calling him a “Good boy”? Or to Baker after telling him he did a good job? Holy hell this man is a disaster. And Ivanka “just dropping by”, she was checking on the doddering old man to make sure he didn’t need a diaper change. This is not normal.
Yarrow
I love that the WSJ pointed out that Trump could fire Sessions and he ignores that to continue with his whining. What a loser.
Bex
Sundowning early?
SiubhanDuinne
@Yarrow:
And another HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!, since you brought it up:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Timurid
The Senate is so terrified that they rubber stamped Christopher Wray.
The GOP is still all in on Trump. The sulky op-eds and off the record comments are pure deza.
FlipYrWhig
What the fucking fuckity fuck-fuck?
A Ghost to Most
@TenguPhule:
Preparations do.
Yarrow
@SiubhanDuinne: LOL. So many laughs. So much terror that this moron is President of the United States.
TenguPhule
Can I get hazard pay for this?
randy khan
I couldn’t read more than a little way into it, partly because the beginning was so deferential. I mean, you folks are supposed to be journalists, not buddies.
But I did read to the part about consumer confidence, and it’s really remarkable that consumer confidence is so high and the President’s approval/disapproval is so bad.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: why don’t you hold on to both for me.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
I…fuck.
There is not enough booze, and THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
FlipYrWhig
This is choice too. A friend linked this earlier:
FlipYrWhig
@TenguPhule: Who is “Mr. Elegant”? Someone he was debating? A moderator? God he’s intolerably idiotic.
rikyrah
Love this tweet about Maxine Waters
https://mobile.twitter.com/joshuadubois/status/892482761612808193
Thoroughly Pizzled
My brain is leaking out my ears.
gene108
I want someone to ask him “are you the greatest President in American history or the greatest President in the history of the world?”
A normal person would say, ” I’ll let others decide” or some such.
Trump would take it as a serious question and try to respond.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@FlipYrWhig: “Words just failed us after that speach Mr President. It truly left us stunned and at a loss for words and we are sure is unparalleled in the history of Scouting. “
SiubhanDuinne
@FlipYrWhig:
@TenguPhule:
@FlipYrWhig:
Sounds like a song by The Chordettes.
TenguPhule
Its the visual equivalent of a giant shit sandwich.
eclare
@TenguPhule: That it’s never been done before is total bullshit, the last repatriation holiday was in the early 2000’s so companies could be magical job creators. Money went for stock buybacks, dividends, and acquisitions. I’m shocked!
MP
@FlipYrWhig: As I posted on Twitter, I suspect he is talking about Ken Bone.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@TenguPhule: One does wonder if Donny McDonnyface is capable of understanding that throwing the health care market into chaos would screw his own hotels too?
FlipYrWhig
You’d think with health insurance at $12 people could afford to ditch their $70,000 mansions!
gene108
@FlipYrWhig:
The US is the 3rd most populous country on the planet behind China and India.
There are no other countries with 300 million people.
Though, I think Indonesia will get there soon.
FlipYrWhig
@MP: I’m guessing Anderson Cooper.
James Powell
@SiubhanDuinne:
And it was and, as far as I can tell still remains the wishes of the majority of America’s white people.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: so is he going to try the Bannon route and say we must tax the rich for white socialism? I guess he might try and forget halfway through and revert to “I pay too much in taxes, eat the poor” mid-sentence.
TenguPhule
I am going to have to open a gofundme for my booze requirements at this rate.
Holy FSM.
FlipYrWhig
This is the single most self-aware thing I’ve ever seen from Trump:
Remember when he called up Michael Flynn in the middle of the night to ask which was better, a strong dollar or a weak one? o_O
Yarrow
He really is just about beating other people, particularly Obama.
Trump’s done more in six months than any other president. Uh huh.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
No.
Major Major Major Major
@MP: Didn’t Ken Bone ask about, like, energy regulation? Not taxes.
Gravenstone
@SiubhanDuinne: “Stopped by” as in stepped out of the little listening cubbyhole they use to make sure someone is near enough to keep the Old Man from beshitting himself further that he already has on any given day.
SiubhanDuinne
@Byrookorbycrook:
Yeah. Jared Kushner is a 36-year-old man, FFS.
And a few weeks ago, he called his son, Donald Trump, Jr. — who is a 39-year-old man, by the way, FFS — “a good boy, a good kid.”
Are these people living on Peter Fucking Pan’s Island of Lost Boys?
I mean, FFS.
Yarrow
@TenguPhule:
Holy shit. Don’t worry about your house? Nevermind that pesky mortgage. Just walk away and don’t worry about it. It’s the Trump way, after all.
TenguPhule
Caught something important in all the muck.
MP
@Major Major Major Major: Yep, he did. I was joking about the whole Ken Bone thing. Reverting to humor is my defense mechanism during crises, and damned if I don’t feel like a Borscht Belt comedian these days.
NotMax
@TenguPhule
This 1 number sums up why that Foxconn deal is over-the-top bad for Wisconsin
Bobby Thomson
@FlipYrWhig: considering the current head of BSA is also head of AT&T and brown nosing to get his merger approved, it’s probably legit
Yarrow
@SiubhanDuinne: Some parents have a hard time seeing their adult children as grown ups and still think of them as kids. it doesn’t excuse it, but Trump wouldn’t be the only parent to do that. Certainly doesn’t excuse hand waving away Jr.’s and Kushner’s actions as those of “boys.”
FlipYrWhig
I called this months ago — part of why his speeches are filled with rants and riffs and careen wildly off script is that he can’t see and won’t admit it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gravenstone:
Right, I know she did that with her daughter who can say “I wuv yew, Gwampaw” in flawless Mandarin Chinese, in some interview (NYT?) a week or so ago. Nothing like distracting the old man when he’s skating a leeeetle bit close to the patch of thin ice.
I am positive that Javanka have set up a bug in the Oval for the sole purpose of being able to rescue him through distractions whenever they deem it necessary. Shit, it actually wouldn’t surprise me if it had been done with the full knowledge and cooperation, maybe even at the request of, Trump himself.
Which would be just … pathetic.
Major Major Major Major
Who the fuck is Gary?
Spaniel
WSJ bends over backwards to highlight how they are not sycophants and the recorded discussion shows their prowess of being total suck-ups. I never knew the granddaughter’s name because it isn’t relevant in the discourse of politics, but why the $&%@ should I also need to know Baker’s kid name? She got to spend two weeks in Central America — what relevance is their in that info?
Gravenstone
@MP:
Pretty sure NotMax is auditioning for a new routine on the circuit, with all the little bon mots he drops in threads lately.
TenguPhule
Believe it or not, it gets worse.
JPL
This was my favorite part
The boy scouts that farm love him. It was such a big crowd.
Chauncey Gardiner is looking down shaking his head in disgust.
FlipYrWhig
@Major Major Major Major: Gary Cohn, economic advisor, right?
TenguPhule
Fuckity Fuckity Fuck.
lollipopguild
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Trump is incapable(uncapable) of understanding anything. For him to have a coherent thought or sentence is unpossible.
TenguPhule
By all rights, the recording devices should have exploded into flames at this point.
Mike in NC
What did Trump charge for that WSJ interview? Cannot imagine him doing anything for free…
NotMax
@Gravenstone
Q: What do you call a hip Borscht Belt comedian?
A: A beetnik.
Kay
I know Sarah Sanders is another nepotism hire but my grown children don’t ask me to “weigh in” on everything.
I feel like this is another new norm they’re trying to set- where full grown adults remain children. It’s gross. It’s not charming or cute.
Trump’s son was at the meeting. He doesn’t need his father’s help to say what happened at the meeting. God almighty buddy, grow up. Daddy isn’t going to be sitting beside you forever.
rikyrah
@SiubhanDuinne:
So sick of this shyt ??
TenguPhule
So all of our worst fears are confirmed.
Chet
@Yarrow:
Is he comparing how long it took for Obama to achieve one of his major goals, with how long it took him to utterly fail at his?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Kay: Maybe daddy was at the meeting too, or was listening in by phone.
TenguPhule
When its 5 pm here, I am going to get +3.
TenguPhule
@Chet:
Yes, yes he is.
Major Major Major Major
@Chet: This was hours before skinny repeal failed, I guess, so he thought it would succeed.
eclare
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I would be willing to bet money daddy was at that meeting too…explains the weird “why didn’t the Secret Service stop the meeting?” rationale one of his lawyers produced.
schrodingers_cat
He was there!
clay
@TenguPhule: Obvious follow-up that the WSJ somehow failed to ask: How, exactly, has Iran been non-compliant?
(Not that I expect an actual answer.)
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
Don’t forget they sent Trump’s grandkid into the roomo during the NYT interview as soon as the conversation shifted over to Comey.
rp
The most fascinating aspect of this article isn’t the transcript; it’s the biting commentary from Politico re the WSJ.
Turgidson
@randy khan:
I’m actually OK with these interviews being deferential in tone. Trump admits more when he thinks the interviewers are on his side or agreeing with him or whatever. His last NYT interview was a trainwreck in part because the interviewers were uncharacteristically nice to him and he let his guard down and let the river of insanity really flow.
rikyrah
@FlipYrWhig:
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA ?
You all are hilarious
TenguPhule
@clay:
Trump started with the answer and intends to work backwards to the evidence.
Felonius Monk
@FlipYrWhig:
It would not surprise me if this was proved truthful. The current National President of the BSA is the CEO of AT&T. That company is currently under a DOJ anti-trust review of some sort. This is called currying favor. (Source)
Another Scott
The man is an idiot.
Oh, and 45 is too.
(groucho-roll-eyes.gif)
Cheers,
Scott.
A Ghost to Most
You read too much of that shit, you’ll get drain bamage.
I’m not gonna read it. Too wound up from working in a building full of coal head Rump supporters. The comments are great, though.
Bobby Thomson
@JPL: do they like how he provoked Mexico into buying grain from Argentina?
FlipYrWhig
@TenguPhule:
From this and from other remarks, like when he was talking about Hicks and Lewandowski, he seems to think that the accusation is that he had, like, actual Russian goons staffing campaign offices. And his defense is, oh yeah, smart guy, ask the people who were in those offices, and they’ll tell you they weren’t being ordered around by Russian goons. :/
debbie
@Yarrow:
And also not mention that he nominated Sessions almost 3 months before Sessions decided to recuse himself.
Major Major Major Major
@debbie: Good god, was that only three months ago?
clay
@TenguPhule: Exactly. What evidence does he have other than the evidence that his own administration is reviewing (which is that Iran is complying with the deal)?
None whatsoever. And yet, he “knows” they’re non-compliant. Sure.
Kay
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Right. Maybe the rules are different for crime families. Maybe my son doesn’t ask me to weigh in on workplace matters because we’re not aligning our false testimony.
They’re using this “family” bullshit to evade accountability. I didn’t tell the Trump kids to take positions in the campaign or the administration. They CHOSE these jobs. They are just like anyone else in these positions.
That’s why you don’t hire your children. Because it’s impossible to treat them objectively. The Trump Family created this mess. They can learn to live with it.
randy khan
@Chet:
On the date of the interview, John McCain had yet to put his thumb down.
More broadly, I find the repeated claims about how much he’s done to be a little bit pathetic. He’s signed a bunch of bills and issued a bunch of executive orders, but really how many of them were important? So far as I can tell, he’s devoted most of his effort to undoing things that happened during the last Administration.
rikyrah
@TenguPhule:
And you better believe that Bobby Three Sticks has been given this section of the interview.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
His answer was gibberish.
JPL
@Bobby Thomson: Boy Scouts around the world!
debbie
@Yarrow:
Damn that reporter for not calling bullshit on all of Trump’s statements. He should have pointed out that it took Obama a year and a half because they met with Republicans, held hearings, etc., etc., etc.
Baud
And I was worried he wouldn’t grow into the job.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
Trump already ignores the laws of men, the laws of the space-time continuum was the obvious next step.
Kay
We can also stop treating Obama’s children the same as these adults. The Obama girls were children. That’s not actually a lifetime designation. We treat children differently than we do adults – all children. That leaves Don Jr out of that possible excuse.
TenguPhule
@Kay:
Obama’s children passed more levels of scrutiny then these dickwads did.
Adam L Silverman
@FlipYrWhig: Actually this is a fairly commonplace understanding of what to do with financially underwater property/underwater mortgages by wealthy people. They just walk away from the mortgage. Make the next couple of big purchases in cash, which restores their credit rating, and they’re good to go.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: That’s not gibberish. It says that he’d prefer to take tax cuts earmarked for the rich and use that money to cut taxes for businesses and the middle class.
Raven Onthill
Slightly OT: “I have solid word that Trump won’t pay CSRs if Senate doesn’t vote again to repeal. He will announce this week.” — Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) on Twitter
It never ends.
SiubhanDuinne
@James Powell:
Why you want make me cry, I not understand.
cmorenc
What’s really disturbing is that 63 million voters thought “President Trump” was a good idea, and even though some of them are starting to add “at the time” to that thought, there are several tens of millions who still think it’s a good thing.
TenguPhule
@Raven Onthill:
Constitutional Crisis Part XXXXXVIII.
Will Congress bend over its power of the purse? Stay tuned.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: Or just find another lender, maybe one outside of the US.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Found the problem.
NotMax
@Baud
The theme song.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Raven Onthill: I believe that’s called “impounding funds”; Tricky Dick tried that, it didn’t end well.
Adam L Silverman
@FlipYrWhig: It has been reported that he has reading glasses but refuses to wear them if anyone else is around.
Barbara
@Raven Onthill: Maybe they can vote to authorize CSRs.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Gary Cohen. Chief Economic Advisor and Bannon bete noir.
Major Major Major Major
@cmorenc: I saw an interview with that sociologist who studied exurban whites in the Great Lakes region, and they said that when they ask the trump supporters they met during the election what they think now, they say:
–I support him;
–even though he hasn’t done anything for me;
–I don’t expect him to;
–I never expected him to;
–but at least he’s hurting Muslims and Mexicans;
–and I wish he’d stop tweeting.
SiubhanDuinne
@FlipYrWhig:
And Flynn, in what was perhaps the only moment of his adult life in which integrity even dared peek around the corner, and to his everlasting credit, replied, essentially, “I’m sorry, Mr. President-elect. That is not within my own realm of expertise. May I suggest you pose the question to, YOU KNOW, AN ACTUAL FUCKING GODDAMN ECONOMIST???”
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: The other parties to the JCPOA are not going to go along with this. All he’s going to do is further isolate the US.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Have we covered this one yet?
Yarrow
@Chet: Yes, except at the time of the interview he hadn’t yet failed. It was a few hours away.
different-church-lady
@FlipYrWhig:
TALENT AGENT: “Uhhh… well. That’s… quite an act. You got a name for it?”
SiubhanDuinne
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I, for one, have never wondered any such thing.
different-church-lady
@eclare: Raise your hand if you thought the reason the country rejected Palin was because she wasn’t crazy enough.
SiubhanDuinne
@FlipYrWhig:
Snort!
(takes long draught of wine)
SNORT!!
lollipopguild
@different-church-lady: The Aristocrats!
Adam L Silverman
@?BillinGlendaleCA: This is true.
lollipopguild
@Adam L Silverman: Wearing reading glasses might make him look OLD!
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: Just because you don’t like the answers doesn’t make it a bad answer.//
TS
@Yarrow:
I think it’s more that parents worry about or for their children – forever. That does not stop us letting them go their own way and make their own mistakes and/or successes. Trump excusing his son or making up lies for his son is not what most parents do. Our adult children have to stand up for their decisions & like any other adult, face the consequences of getting it wrong.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
Until and unless they all join the “Rent Is Too Damn High” Party, I’m paying them no never-mind.
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
If Trump in fact said that, Sean Hannity must be confronted and asked to explain it.
Adam L Silverman
@lollipopguild: That ship has sailed.
zhena gogolia
You guys are too realistic. I like the WaPo commenters, who think he’s going to resign by the end of the month. They have an effect on me like a soothing warm bath.
eclare
@TS: I still remember my mom telling someone she didn’t have children. I was in my late 30’s, therefore not a child.
NotMax
Repeated (and slightly altered for greater clarity) from the other day –
Obama: Eleven dimensional chess.
Dolt 45: Eleven dimensional 52-card pick-up.
sukabi
@Major Major Major Major: Don’t try and read it. It’s not worth it.
I don’t know how far I got thru the transcript, but I can tell you I’m pretty sure his brain damage is contagious.
Had to quit reading. Actually felt my IQ dropping.
SiubhanDuinne
@Yarrow:
And feel free to assault a few people on the way out. I’ll pay your legal bills, believe me.
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: IMO triangulating to white socialism would have been a brilliant political play for Trump to make in December or so. Would’ve caused chaos in both parties and let him consolidate power. Probably what Bannon and Miller were hoping for. Fortunately Trump is lazy and stupid and doesn’t care.
SiubhanDuinne
@sukabi:
Not unlike Rosalind Shays in L.A. Law.
Adam L Silverman
Looky! Another general:
Here’s this bio:
https://www.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/367336.pdf
Full disclosure: I’ve done work for the Office of the Provost Marshal General and US Army Corrections Command.
Yarrow
@Major Major Major Major:
This is the number one most common complaint about Trump by white people, it seems. They don’t care what he does; they care that he’s talking about it on Twitter. Saying it out loud. They just want him to stop talking about it. Deport all the brown people. Refuse entry to all the Muslims. Bomb the Middle East. Beat up and lock up all the black people. That’s fine. Good, even. Just stop tweeting about it and making them uncomfortable.
Another Scott
Oh, he “do”ed amazing, all right…
Cheers,
Scott.
different-church-lady
@gene108:
Ksmiami
Dear God Make It Stop
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, dear lord, please don’t let S_C see this!
lollipopguild
@NotMax: Trump reminds me of the guy in a friendly poker game and its his turn to deal. The game comes to a stop because he is screwing up the process of dealing out the cards because he is trying to cheat. When he is caught and called on his cheating he accuses the other players of cheating also and says “everybody cheats”. Trump thinks he has a lifetime permission to lie, steal and cheat and nobody is going to call him on it or make him stop.
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
“I’m Nobody. Who are you?
Are you Nobody too?
Then there’s a pair of us, don’t tell!
They’d banish us, you know.
How dreamy to be Somebody.
How public, like a frog,
To tell you name the livelong day
To an admiring bog.”
(From memory, so I may have misquoted the odd word.)
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Maybe she will, maybe she won’t. Hard to say without opening the box.
ruckus
@eclare:
He has to have a thought to finish it. What he does is react. Not correctly of course, because it’s hard to hear reasonably with his head that far up his ass.
Fester Addams
Um, that’s cognitive impairment. He told us “I have a good brain.” But he was wrong. Because he doesn’t.
Gelfling 545
@FlipYrWhig: Jesus, I think I’m having a panic attack from that. And I don’t get panic attacks. Makes Palin sound like Demosthenes and W look like Solon. I’m shocked he can tie his own shoes though there is no verifiable proof that he can.
SiubhanDuinne
@lollipopguild:
Decapable.
Miscapable.
Anticapable.
Countercapable.
The English language is a limber and pliant thing.
different-church-lady
@Chet:
Adam L Silverman
Oy vey…
Major Major Major Major
@Gelfling 545: Seems like a velcro kinda guy, don’t you think?
@Adam L Silverman: The first comment is great:
eclare
@ruckus: Good point.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
Go back to bed. It’s still early where you are.
HeleninEire
I can’t read the interview. In fact I am going to have to force myself to read this thread.
Driftglass is one of my favorite bloggers. But I hate David Brooks so much that I cant even read Driftglass excoriating David Brooks.
Lastly it’s 11:35 pm where I am. I’ve had a beer or 5.
Turgidson
@TenguPhule:
In fairness to Hair Furor, this is how Republicans have dealt with every policy matter since at least the beginning of Bush the Lesser’s administration if not longer. WMDs in Iraq. All of Paul Ryan’s “proposals” to shred the safety net. Voter “fraud.” And so on.
So Hair Furor is just doing what they showed him to do, in this particular instance.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: I hate to see an animal or pet suffer, but I hope one of these idiots has a St. Bernard who gets nipped by a raccoon in Brooklyn and goes complete Cujo on the entire freaking neighborhood of hipsters.
Shalimar
@TenguPhule:
It was November, 2013. He’s lost all conception of the passing of time. Probably the only reason he remembers he has been in office 6 months is because he has a little digital calendar on his desk that tells him how long he has been king.
Gelfling 545
@James Powell: No it was not. It was, however, the wish of the majority of voters in WI, OH & PA,
NotMax
Doesn’t require Kreskin to predict his days are now numbered.
Acting DEA chief rejects Trump’s ‘joke’ about police abuses
eclare
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah, my first thought was rabies is a thing….
lollipopguild
@Adam L Silverman: I have a comment that is stuck in moderation, can you set it free?
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
I guess that pet owner missed the news that coconut oil may not be as healthy as it’s been said to be.
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady:
lolololol
Baud
@Gelfling 545: What do you mean? Trump easily won the white vote nationally.
Shalimar
@clay: A few followup questions would be nice, but Trump is a trainwreck because he keeps talking and talking and talking without having any clue how anything actually works. The actual questions asked aren’t going to slow that down any.
zhena gogolia
@Adam L Silverman:
OMG that’s why my cats are autistic!
Adam L Silverman
Boizhe Moi!
zhena gogolia
@Gelfling 545:
Right.
HeleninEire
@SiubhanDuinne: Hey girl did you see my comment in the earlier thread? “Einstein in a Doobie” is my new catchphrase.
Major Major Major Major
@debbie: Pretty sure they were being sarcastic.
Oh man, you should read the comments on some of those articles about coconut oil, though. USA TODAY YOU ARE IN THE POCKET OF BIG CANOLA!
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, are we doing neighborhood-based collective punishment now?
zhena gogolia
@Adam L Silverman:
Пиздец. Мы в пизде.
Господи, спаси нашу бедную родину.
SiubhanDuinne
@Kay:
Okay, here I am going to go on another SHS mini-rant, with the usual apologies for being lookist.
I saw a couple of YouTube clips of today’s press briefing. Who thought it was a good idea to dress her in a long-sleeved black velvet thing with puffy beribboned shoulders IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING SUMMER?
Also, her makeup? The Mooch’s opinions notwithstanding, it looks like it was trowelled on by someone who was fired by Joan Collins in the early ’80s.
No, sorry, I wouldn’t even know how to be catty.
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: Double check, that comment might be from Ken M.
Turgidson
@Kay:
There’s a first time for everything, I suppose.
sukabi
@SiubhanDuinne: had to Google it, but yes! Exactly like falling down an elevator shaft of ignorant confusion.
Anything intelligible they got from that interview came from Ivanka as she slipped a manila envelope of prepared q&a to Baker as she left.
zhena gogolia
@SiubhanDuinne:
You go, girl!
Adam L Silverman
@lollipopguild: Already have.
Adam L Silverman
@zhena gogolia: Gezundheit!
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
My bet is that Kellyann is the makeup artist.
Iowa Old Lady
I join those who can’t read a transcript of Trump. My brain seizes up. Plus I don’t want to. Reclaiming my time.
randy khan
@Turgidson:
I don’t know. I think the tone is practically servile.
ruemara
This is fucking lunacy.
Smiling Mortician
@TenguPhule: I am +2 and it’s currently 3:47 here. Of course, I’m technically on vacation so I can daydrink all I want.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Someone a few days ago remarked that her make-up recently has taken on a more Fox host-ish look. And they would not be surprised if POS has her on some sort of starvation diet. Remember Bannon’s reason for Spicer’s lack of appearances at one point, “he got fat.”
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
I realize there are differences of opinion in this area, but I don’t really see a huge problem in criticizing a public figure’s clothing that s/he wears for public appearances. Yes, you have to stick to the subject of “god, that dress is hideous” and not veer off into criticizing the body under the dress, but I think clothing choices are fair game.
The one thing that bugs me in the gossip rags is when they make fun of what celebrities wear to the grocery store or to the airport. It’s none of our business what the Possum Queen wears when she goes to the Stop N Shop, but it is our business what she wears to represent the United States of America.
Shorter me: “that dress is hideous” is a valid criticism; “that woman is ugly” is not.
randy khan
@lollipopguild: It only took 4 comments to get that. Very good.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
The Pravda Street Journal, everybody
Jeffro
Thank you for the thread, Cheryl!
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
They rolled their eyes at a turkey pardoning. The horror!!
danielx
CAN this man actually speak a coherent sentence and/or keep focused on one topic for more than thirty seconds at a time?
Jeffro
@Thoroughly Pizzled: I know, right? it’s just amazing.
Thanks electoral college! You really done good with this one…
Jeffro
@Iowa Old Lady: (reclaiming my time)
WIN
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Does not compute. Let me get this straight. The Democrats are the ones who don’t care about the good of the country, because they wouldn’t vote on a stupid bill that would destroy healthcare for millions and betray their constituents or help the Republicans do so (they begged to help craft a real bill but weren’t allowed to participate)? Fuck this idiotic failure. Worst leader in recorded history
different-church-lady
@danielx:
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
For the Love of FUCK! He’s 71 years old, but he’s too fucking VAIN to be seen in reading glasses?
I mean, I’ve heard of narcissism, but this is just STUPID.
HeleninEire
@Iowa Old Lady: “Reclaiming my time” FTW. You said it so much better than I did.
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Meeee-ow!
Some musical accompaniment.
:)
Frankensteinbeck
@randy khan:
No, he hasn’t. 90% of the incredibly, pathetically small number of ‘bills’ passed by the Senate so far were formal declarations that they don’t approve of Obama’s executive orders. I’m pretty sure those don’t get a signature, even. It is utterly gobsmacking how McConnell has sat and twiddled his thumbs this congress.
Smiling Mortician
@TS:
True. But all indications are that Trump Sr. was in the damned meeting. He wasn’t trying to fix a problem for Don Jr. He was trying to fix a problem for himself, prior to throwing Don Jr. under the bus.
Smiling Mortician
@SiubhanDuinne: You are on FIRE today.
SiubhanDuinne
@lollipopguild:
Thank the blessed FSM the chins, the wattle, the
hairwhatever that is on his head, the protruding belly, the abominable posture, and the outsized ass don’t add to his age.? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Frankensteinbeck:
McConnell blew a lot of political capital on Deathcare. He’s proven to be a legislative failure so far. Just goes to show it takes less work and skill to be an obstructionist than to be a constructive visionary.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Come sit by me…
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
STARZZZ!!
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Adam L Silverman:
What is this administration’s obsession with the military?
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I mean, they’re kinda fascist, if you haven’t noticed.
SiubhanDuinne
@SiubhanDuinne:
FUCK YOU SPELL CHECK
Should be “How DREARY to be Somebody,…” and “To tell youR name….”
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
Don’t forget that during the campaign, he insisted he saw a 35-year-old man whenever he looked in a mirror.
Bah dah dum.
Yarrow
@TS: Hence my use of the word “some.” There are some parents who never see their adult children as adults. I never said it was healthy or something parents should strive for, just that it does happen.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Wait, people are worried now about their autistic CATS?
I love cats, but Jesus Christ, they’re ALL autistic. I mean, it goes with the job description for CAT. I mean, FOR FUCK’S SAKE.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@debbie: I can still be amused when I see footage of trump and he’s clearly spent some time on the tanning bed and had his colorist. The way his eyebrows are often several shades shinier than his hair or skin, like neon-yellow caterpillars on a pumpkin that somebody dropped… something… on.
ETA: reporters try to keep track of how much time he spends golfing or yelling at the TeeVee, how long does it take to maintain that tan? Can you watch TeeVee from a tanning bed? Did he order Reince to come in to the Tanning Room and… No, I won’t.
Used to notice the same thing with Tweety now and again, that he’d had a touch up up top, but now that’s the one political addiction I’ve managed to kick.
Smiling Mortician
@SiubhanDuinne: Also “to an admiring BLOG.”
lollipopguild
@Adam L Silverman: Thank you for that as well as all of your intelligent posts here at Snarling Jackals.
mike in dc
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I had an immediate “HEY GO FUCK YOURSELF” reaction to that comment. It’s a historic residence with a movie theater, bowling alley, underground bunker and surface to air missile system. You’re living rent-free in a place maintained by taxpayer money. Hey, respectfully, Mr. President, please go fuck yourself.
JPL
Last night the Washington Post had an explosive article about Trump crafting Don Jr.’s statement to the press
Today NPR has an explosive article about Trump’s involvement in creating fake news
Sports Illustrated has an article where Trump calls the White House a dump
and Politico releases a WSJ transcript with Trump that is filled with gobbledgook.
Wired also had a tape of Jared speaking to interns, but I think that was yesterday.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
Yeah, gladly. (Was thinking a bit earlier that John Cole, our beloved Blogmaster, needs to rent an entire beachfront Colony for an entire Season, so we can all hang out together and sit by each other and come and go as we please, and say “fuck” as often as we wish without fear of offending our relatives….)
SiubhanDuinne
@Smiling Mortician:
Oh yes, perfect!
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Yarrow: Remember that commenter from my local paper?
This his response:
Me:
He basically ran away like a coward.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Sounds good to me! I hope the universe has an endless supply of “fucks” because we are going through them at an alarming rate.
lollipopguild
@SiubhanDuinne: “We are Siamese if you please, we are Siamese if you don’t please.”
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Our vet no longer advises that indoor-only cats get annual rabies shots, because there are some cancer risks with the current vaccine (a tumor can form at the injection site). Now they’re supposed to get them every 5 years instead.
However, that’s an actual scientific reason with some research behind it.
lollipopguild
@SiubhanDuinne: We are going to need a bigger hottub.
Iowa Old Lady
@HeleninEire: I’d love to take credit but of course I’m just quoting Maxine Waters. Sad.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Jesus, Debbie. I know we’re a feisty bunch here in Balloon-Juice-land, but you’ve stepped over the boundary into Egregiously Cruel. What’s wrong with you?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
Honestly, if Trump was more of a malleable buffoon who didn’t constantly undercut himself and his staff (like a Warren Harding), I’d be more scared of COS Kelly becoming basically Acting President Kelly for all intents and purposes. Are WH staff accountable to anyone else except the POTUS?
SiubhanDuinne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
You are wise beyond your years, young Jim.
SiubhanDuinne
@lollipopguild:
“We are former residents of Siam,
There are no finer Cat than I am.”
pattonbt
@SiubhanDuinne: Glasses worked wonders for Rick Perry. Glasses make you smarter, everyone knows that. Trump cant even figure that out. Sad.
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
It never stops, does it???
p.a.
Have they installed color coded arrows on the WH floors so he can find his way around yet?
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: This guy is an idiot.
@p.a.: They still can’t work the light switches, how is he supposed to see colored arrows?
NotMax
@SiubhanDuinne
Beach Blanket Zingo.
Adam L Silverman
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I read somewhere that generals seem to be a proxy for the President’s father. That’s why he doesn’t publicly disparage them, on twitter or otherwise in speeches or off the cuff remarks. Apparently they are stand in authority figures. Whatever the home dynamic that drove his parents to send him to that military school, the dynamics at the school didn’t do him any favors.
TenguPhule
@Iowa Old Lady:
I suffered so you didn’t have to.
Villago Delenda Est
@SiubhanDuinne: Or The Chipmunks.
smintheus
Just noticed that during his all-too-brief WH sojourn, Scaramucci started wearing his ties at Trump’s favored length rather than the way normal humans do.
TenguPhule
@danielx:
All available evidence points against it.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Great, from the people who brought us Abu Ghraib.
Villago Delenda Est
@mike in dc: In Donald’s world, if it’s not gold plated rococo on baroque, it’s “a dump”.
SiubhanDuinne
@pattonbt:
They did, yes.
Apex802
@NotMax: beautifully phrased.
Morzer
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-trump-calls-white-house-a-real-dump
I’ve a feeling that the less than perfect status of the White House might have something to do with the toxic waste that was recently dumped into it.
TenguPhule
@Morzer:
First thing that came to mind at that “What has that stickyfingered vomitball stolen from the Whitehouse?”
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: My dogs are on the three year vaccine.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
Oh he is. He seemed to completely disregard the link about presidents getting charged with obstruction of justice after he denied presidents can be from Yarrow and just shut down. Sad.
@Adam L Silverman:
His stupid pathologies and daddy issues are putting us all in peril. Thanks for the info
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
So more Foxes in charge of the Hen house.
How could this possibly go wrong? //
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Actually TF 134 was Camp Bucca. So they brought us al Zarqawi and al Baghdadi.
SiubhanDuinne
@smintheus:
That is hifuckinglarious.
Somebody, I think it might have been baud, put up a video link a few days ago showing how Mooch mimicked nearly every one of Trump’s characteristic gestures. Seeing the clips side by side in real time was pretty amazing. Cannot find that link, and stupidly neglected to bookmark it at the time, so if anyone has it or remembers, THAT’D BE GREAT.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: I honestly don’t know if I know Inch. The name sounds familiar, but that may have just been because someone mentioned it to me when I was doing a research project for Office of the Provost Marshal General and Army Correction Command. So I cannot offer an informed opinion.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Actually a very effective way to establish rapport. If you go back and look at the pics of the President meeting with Putin at the G20 you’ll see that Putin mimicked his seating posture. Same reason: put the subject/source at ease by giving them a mirror of themselves.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: The Oval Office, for starters…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Robert Meuller’s lawyer-hiring stimulus program rolls on
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
As always Adam, with these people the safe bet is always corrupt/incompetent/malevolent.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Well, that makes it all better.//
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
So Torture Prison’s lesser known younger prison that never really made a name for itself until after the fact?
Iowa Old Lady
I like I might love Robert Mueller
chris
Holy hell! Thank you all for sifting through this for me. I tried but had to quit because I could hear his whiny voice and I think I lost a few brain cells before I stopped.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
And the fact that it will probably kick off active hostilities in the Middle East will be bad too.
frosty
@TenguPhule: Thank you for your sacrifice … but did you have to quote so damn much??!?!
Those IQ points will never return. :-(
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
But they’re still bad answers!
debbie
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I don’t think he ever had the patience for a tanning bed. I think he went the spray route.
lollipopguild
@Morzer: Sad to say but comments like this from trump may turn more people against him than the more serious stuff. On a lot of topics some of his supporters will simply agree to disagree with you but I do not think you will find many of his voters who would agree with him on the White House being a dump. We may see more of his people going “radio silent” rather than trying to defend him on stuff like this.
TenguPhule
@frosty:
You all needed to understand my pain.
Those were just the highlights. I left out most of the rambling.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: The pivot is coming!
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I report, you lament.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
If Baud doesn’t steal that for his campaign, he deserves to be upstaged by the piano playing chicken.
MomSense
@hedgehog the occasional commenter:
Honest to dog he is a fucking disgrace.
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
I was just about to rewrite the lyrics to Mr Pitiful as Mr Elegant
Adria McDowell
@Adam L Silverman: There’s a big difference between the military prison system and the fed system. Military inmates tend to have more discipline, believe it or not.
Good luck to him, I guess. ??
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Not to mention prisoner deaths.
Someone, some day, will write a history of the arrogant disregard for and, in cases, deliberate ignoring of the Istanbul Protocols (forensic procedure and investigation by the military) in both Iraq and Afghanistan by both on-site personnel and the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: TF 134 was an interesting premise. They had developed what they thought, and what appeared to be, a pretty robust deradicalization program. It worked for some of the detainees, but for others having them all at Buca just served as an incubator. They met each other, made connections, reinforced each other, etc. There is a pretty decent literature on this stuff. One book, specifically on the deradicalization of jihadis, which came out in 2010, shows in hindsight just how hard this is to pull off. I reviewed it for one of the polisc journals at that time. What we now know is that this is very hard to pull off regardless of what people are radicalized into.
https://www.amazon.com/Radicalization-Jihadists-Transforming-Movements-Contemporary-ebook/dp/B0026K2AV4/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1501632329&sr=8-3-fkmr0&keywords=deradicalization+of+jihadis
Frankensteinbeck
@TenguPhule:
So, he agrees with Sessions that blacks are criminal animals who deserve the most brutal treatment possible. Got it. God damn, Sessions is a nightmare.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
If Mueller keeps bringing more high powered investigators onto the team, does that imply he is finding so much dirt he needs to keep expanding his team to handle it all?
Central Planning
@FlipYrWhig: Oh god, this burns.
Countries with like 300 million people? The list goes like this: China (1.4b), India (1.3b), US (324m), Indonesia (258m), Brazil (206m), Pakistan (202m), Nigeria (186m), Bangladesh (156m), Russia (142m). Number 10 is Japan at 127m.
I don’t think we can count on most of those countries as fans of the US.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh yes, I did some freelance writing work several years ago with three or four NLP practitioners, and in the process picked up some useful information and techniques about mirroring. But with Mooch vis-à-vis Trump, it was just so blatant. And usually, anyhow, one uses these techniques in the presence of the opposite number — not on camera in a press conference.
smintheus
@SiubhanDuinne: OTOH, good thing it’s old news now because it seems a bit too much like a Chris Cillizza act just to have noticed it in the first place.
different-church-lady
Wait… did somebody say piano-playing chicken?
TenguPhule
@Frankensteinbeck:
I would think so.
Which is a little horrifying once the full implications of that start to settle in.
Adria McDowell
@Adam L Silverman: Just asked my husband about him: he was commandant when my husband was at the DB (USDB at Fort Leavenworth). My husband was just a guard at the time; didn’t really have anything good or bad to say about him, though.
Wheaton College grad, tho. Fundie school? For some reason, that’s my impression of the place.
Gravenstone
@Adam L Silverman: And the cost to retrofit those ‘bargains’ will break the bank *how* badly?
SiubhanDuinne
@p.a.:
The little footprints….
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
Baud’s new running mate.
SFAW
@FlipYrWhig:
I’m thinking it’s either Lawrence Tierney or Michael Madsen.
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
No WAY! Baud just issued a press release saying he’s behind Poco 1000 percent!
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
Sounds heavenly.
Vor
@SiubhanDuinne: The Daily Show put that together so it must be on their website.
NotMax
@TenguPhule
At least we’ve got several years to expand its repertoire beyond playing A Bushel and a Peck.
Felonius Monk
This interview proves once and for all that Trump defecates through his mouth.
frosty
@SFAW: 1000 percent! There’s an oldie! Well played.
Mnemosyne
@Adria McDowell:
IIRC, Wheaton is fundie and quite conservative but not, like, Bob Jones U conservative. Boys and girls may be allowed to — gasp! — hold hands in public at Wheaton.
satby
@NotMax: I think this should be the theme song.
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: He sounds like an idiot. Do you know he’s not some paid Russian troll? I think you said he claimed he was an English teacher or debate coach or something. Doesn’t seem likely, based on what he wrote.
Adria McDowell (formerly Lurker Extraordinaire)
What really pisses me off from this interview (there is a lot actually, but….)? Why is it that New Yorkers are expected to up and move* sticks if there are no jobs around, but people in West Virginia don’t have to go anywhere because “coal jobs are coming back”? What the fuck is that bullshit?
*Not saying that moving isn’t a good idea if there are no jobs; plus moving is really expensive, and if you are already struggling, it’s not feasible. I just had the double standard.
Amir Khalid
I started reading the transcript at the Politico link, and then I gave up. Imagine the stupidest, the most horrible, the most dishonest and reckless things a POTUS can say or do, and Trump will outdo your imagination every day of every week. I am weary of Trump and his unrelenting bad-in-every-wayness.
TenguPhule
@Amir Khalid:
Up thread to make it easier.
I tried to summarize the worst highlights.
Adam L Silverman
@Adria McDowell: No argument here.
Chyron HR
@Adria McDowell (formerly Lurker Extraordinaire):
Because the White Working Class are pure holy beings around whom the universe must arrange itself. Now stop playing identity politics.
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
The chicken decided to display its military credentials.
It will be marked as a turning point in the Chicken’s campaign.
NotMax
@satby
Unfamiliar to me, but works.
Adam L Silverman
@Adria McDowell: Yep, Wheaton College is religiously conservative. My CIM Cell Spec4 was a Wheaton grad.
Kathleen
@Baud: I hope you’re taking notes, Baud.
Adam L Silverman
@Gravenstone: I don’t know because I don’t know whether the custom jobs they’re going to get are going to cost more than if we’d bought a pair of just off the assembly line ones.
SFBayAreaGal
@Matt McIrvin: I believe the pivot has spun so many times that it ended up in space or buried deep in the earth.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: We should also note that there is another Wheaton College in MA, and that one is generally better known.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Correct.
??? Martin
Take that interview apart. Throw all of Trump’s sentences on the floor. Now, I dare you to find any one sentence and figure out which one came before or after it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Felonius Monk:
Just threw up in my own mouth. Thanks, Felonious Monk!
SiubhanDuinne
@Vor:
Ah, thanks, I’ll have a look. Didn’t remember the original source.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Yarrow:
He’s just some idiot who thinks he’s a genius.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
I was truly worried that I had exhausted my lifetime quota of “fucks,” but I seem to be golden so far.
TriassicSands
Gerard Baker should be ashamed of himself. What a complete hack! That is one of the worst jobs of questioning I’ve ever seen. He seems almost as stupid as Trump.
Jeffro
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
It’s generals and billionaires, all the way down…
In all seriousness, this is Trump: billionaires and generals are the only people even remotely close to his level of awesome. Why would he hang out with, much less listen to, anyone else? And doesn’t hiring generals and billionaires mean that he’s above even those fine, lofty folks?
randy khan
@Frankensteinbeck:
CNN had a breakdown at the end of June of the 40 bills Trump had signed:
15 were bills repealing rules adopted in the last year of the Obama Administration under the Congressional Review Act.
8 were more or less ceremonial – naming post offices, etc.
3 to appoint regents for the Smithsonian (Who knew you needed legislation to do that?)
2 continuing resolutions
1 to allow people to be appointed to the board of the Office of Compliance (apparently the authorization to appoint people to those positions was about to lapse)
1 to allow Mattis to serve as Secretary of Defense
The remaining 10 bills were a mix of various policy and operational legislation, none of them particularly major. Obama signed fewer bills in his first six months, but they included the stimulus bill, children’s health care, the Lily Ledbetter Act, and a law expanding the FDA’s jurisdiction. IIRC, financial regulation reform followed soon after.
sukabi
@smintheus: the Mooch was heavily into mirroring drumpf from clothing colors, tie length, to hand gestures and phrasing. He REALLY, REALLY needed something from Drumpf, whether it was an out from the taxes he’s going to have to pay on the sale of his company or something else, he wanted something.
Villago Delenda Est
@TriassicSands: He’s competing with Maggie Haberman to be the hackiest of the Donald interviewers.
Groucho48
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Partly because they want to bask in the glow of what they assume are manly men and partly, I’m guessing, because they have found that there are no national level Republicans that are capable of doing anything constructive, and they don’t trust academics or anyone associated with Obama. That pretty much leaves the military.
fuckwit
@Thoroughly Pizzled: His is leaking out his ass.
fuckwit
@Jeffro: Macho. Power. Authority.