Upon reflection I think the most likely result of the Mueller investigation is indisputable proof that the Russian government colluded with the Sanders campaign. At which point, like the Plame scandal, everyone will be sick of it and nobody will have the desire to pursue it any further.
OT — just got out of the Richard Rodgers Theatre. I can confirm that Hamilton is, in fact, a damned fine play.
7.
Omnes Omnibus
@BBA: Could people please stop randomly dragging Sanders into things.
8.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Although if they randomly dragged him into a woodchipper….
9.
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
I’m so weary tonight I was trying to figure what kind of subtle reference to the Ottoman Empire and current factional difficulties in the region the title meant. Then I was confused that it was a Cole post.
Then I saw the picture and it made more sense. Steve looks rather regal. Of course
10.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I was as annoyed as anyone about how he finished his campaign. I don’t like what he is saying on TeeVee these days. I just don’t think that random attacks on the guy help resolve the divisions in the party. If he is in the news being wrong, have at him. If not, let’s just ignore him.
Wasn’t Tunch a Turkish Van? That would have made him the best candidate to be an Ottoman.
12.
Omnes Omnibus
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: This morning I saw a bumper sticker that said “People who are upright don’t need a Walker.” It took me a few seconds to get past thinking that it wasn’t nice to shit on the disabled.
@Major Major Major Major: Cool, let’s get known as the weird little “I hate Bernie” blog. That would be great. Let David “I am a liberal troll” Koch define us.
@Mike J: Alexa had it a little higher than that during the election last year, but I couldn’t find where I’d gotten that list so I went with what I linked to instead. (Is that figure from Alexa 85kth TLD or 85kth website?)
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, this is not one of said things. As you yourself said, if he is in the news being wrong, have at him.
@Major Major Major Major: The attacks on Bernie that show up randomly strike me as attempts to divide Dems. They stir up virulent Bernie Bros and keep primary tensions alive. I am starting to see them as trollish.
ETA: I have never seen the David Koch guy as a good actor.
@Omnes Omnibus: I think a lot of people are just mad still; there are some trollish things a-happenin’ too though.
@Mike J: The one I linked to says 60,677th site, I picked TLD because it seemed more accurate for this purpose to include wikipedia, google, etc. etc. once instead of once per language and region and etc. etc.
Since Omnes apparently has retired, I will fill in. He said last night that he found an ’07 manual 6-speed, same or similar model to what he had before. Owned by a schoolteacher, good maintenance record. Currently in negotiations.
We’re in Chicago right now and put our names in for the ticket lottery. We did not get them, because we are not lucky when it comes to such things, so we still won’t see it until early September in LA. Sad!
39.
GregB
One of the strangest things about this disastrous Trumpocalypse is how it is reorganizing some of the ideologues in the media.
There are now some neo cons and Republicans who see through Trump and are standing up to him. Frum, McMullen, Scarborough etc. It has also flung some folks who I used to read into a Trump apologist abyss.
Moon of Alabama is a madhouse, Zero Hedge a racist cesspit, Raimondo at anti-war is proto-fascist to name a few.
@Yarrow: Well, you gotta figure, what percent of the sites above us are blogs? It’s not a third.
41.
Yarrow
@GregB: It has been kind of fascinating to watch. I’m not really sure what’s going to come out of all of it. Perhaps some kind of realignment. Maybe a new party and new media outlets. I mentioned earlier today that there are hints about Fox having stronger ties to Russia than people suspect. If that’s the case and they get caught in all of this, who knows what might happen. Hannity’s got to be hiding something. He seems paranoid about the Russia stuff.
42.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack:
Hopefully the apocryphal little old lady schoolteacher who nevertheless likes sports sedans. Will guess a 9^3 SS but maybe a 9^5 Aero? Manuals were pretty rare by then.
Though I find his phrase to be a little squicky, that’s what Adam means when he says that Russia has achieved “penetration at all levels” — they’re selling their propaganda through multiple outlets that one would think should be contradictory, but aren’t, because they’re united by conscious or subconscious racism.
Remember our old troll buddy BiP? He was a lefty who totally bought into the Russian propaganda that Russia Today was feeding him through people like Ed Schultz. The right wing is getting the same stuff through their churches, which are broadcasting propaganda through Russian Orthodox sources.
It’s propaganda all the way down, coming from both sides of the political spectrum at once.
It would appear they are getting the band back together to mount a unified push back on the exploding Russia story and the imploding Trump Presidency.
Twitter is the early adopter of much of the bullshit and I just took a swing past crazy town.
The bots are getting frothy again.
Also too, Trump visit to France as his collapse quickens seems almost operatic to me. T’s flunkies will use a state visit to the biggest rightwing punchline of a nation, to pump up his gravitas.
Here is Trump eating brie and foie-gras with the leader of Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Nation! How strong and leadery!
Not to mention it is in honor of Bastille Day.
48.
Yarrow
@Mnemosyne: His phrase encompasses more than just media, though. Government officials at all levels, elected and non-elected. Businesses. Probably entertainment and sports too, if we thought about it. Anything they can use to disrupt.
@Mnemosyne: Less than two weeks for us! I grabbed tickets for a matinee on Broadway when they went on sale a year ago.
50.
ChrisH
New logic coming out is that because Loretta Lynch gave this Russian lawyer an extension on her Visa because she was in the US to defend a client in court, the meeting with Don Jr. was clearly an Obama collusion conspiracy with Russia to entrap Trump and also an excuse to bug Trump Tower. It’s Alex Jones level conspiracy theories all the way down.
Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, has defended exorcism as a helpful practice for healing people who suffer from various mental health problems.
53.
Origuy
@bemused: They’re having a military parade for Bastille Day. He loves those.
54.
NotMax
So now one of your sidelines is being … (wait for it)
@NotMax: The logic that you employed to come up with that is quite Byzantine.
56.
Aleta
@Origuy: A good example of the difference between insanity –repeating what’s never worked and makes no sense and does harm– in Kirill and the ROC; vs people with mental illness, who Kirill wants to persecute.
Kirill is a moron. None of the other Orthodox patriarchs are apt to follow – of course, he’ll do damage in North America via his good little lapdogs in ROCOR and OCA.
I wish I was physiologically compatible with cats, because there are some sweetheart cats who roam my neighborhood and react to me in a friendly way. Sometimes I want to just sit down on the front step of my apartment building and sort of commune with the local felines, because reading the news is doing wonders for my blood pressure (he said sarcastically).
I mean, I just got out of a Slack fight with someone who was blatantly using logical fallacies to assert that there were no crimes committed – that since Junior isn’t part of the administration, and hasn’t applied for any position that requires disclosure of foreign contacts, no charges are applicable – and then when I shot back that he was crossing up two completely independent issues (prohibition against soliciting or accepting foreign contributions vs. failure to report foreign contacts on a security clearance application), he griped that he weeps for the future of the world.
I don’t know whether he was simply trolling, or genuinely trying to disrupt arguments against the cheeto junta. At this point, is there even any difference any more?
Omnes Omnibus
Which one is the ottoman?
T S
My cats will never harm me….
BBA
Upon reflection I think the most likely result of the Mueller investigation is indisputable proof that the Russian government colluded with the Sanders campaign. At which point, like the Plame scandal, everyone will be sick of it and nobody will have the desire to pursue it any further.
Yarrow
He knows who’s in charge.
Omnes Omnibus
@T S: I take it that you have no cats.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
OT — just got out of the Richard Rodgers Theatre. I can confirm that Hamilton is, in fact, a damned fine play.
Omnes Omnibus
@BBA: Could people please stop randomly dragging Sanders into things.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Although if they randomly dragged him into a woodchipper….
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
I’m so weary tonight I was trying to figure what kind of subtle reference to the Ottoman Empire and current factional difficulties in the region the title meant. Then I was confused that it was a Cole post.
Then I saw the picture and it made more sense. Steve looks rather regal. Of course
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: I was as annoyed as anyone about how he finished his campaign. I don’t like what he is saying on TeeVee these days. I just don’t think that random attacks on the guy help resolve the divisions in the party. If he is in the news being wrong, have at him. If not, let’s just ignore him.
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
Wasn’t Tunch a Turkish Van? That would have made him the best candidate to be an Ottoman.
Omnes Omnibus
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: This morning I saw a bumper sticker that said “People who are upright don’t need a Walker.” It took me a few seconds to get past thinking that it wasn’t nice to shit on the disabled.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Easy for us to say, on the 10 thousandth-whatever most popular blog. Tell the turkeys who book the Sunday and evening shows.
rikyrah
Steve still scared me
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
@Omnes Omnibus: So you know what I mean.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: We don’t need to add to it. David blah blah Koch and some others launch into shit about him at random. It isn’t helpful.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, there are plenty of non-random reasons to drag him into things.
@efgoldman: Today it’s the 29,435th highest-ranked domain on the innertubes.
Omnes Omnibus
@Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Yep.
trollhattan
@Omnes Omnibus:
The one with the empire.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Cool, let’s get known as the weird little “I hate Bernie” blog. That would be great. Let David “I am a liberal troll” Koch define us.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: Alexa says 85k^th worldwide, 16,500 in the US.
Omnes Omnibus
@trollhattan: I may have a new (to me) Saab soon.
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: Alexa had it a little higher than that during the election last year, but I couldn’t find where I’d gotten that list so I went with what I linked to instead. (Is that figure from Alexa 85kth TLD or 85kth website?)
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, this is not one of said things. As you yourself said, if he is in the news being wrong, have at him.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: site
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: The attacks on Bernie that show up randomly strike me as attempts to divide Dems. They stir up virulent Bernie Bros and keep primary tensions alive. I am starting to see them as trollish.
ETA: I have never seen the David Koch guy as a good actor.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: I think a lot of people are just mad still; there are some trollish things a-happenin’ too though.
@Mike J: The one I linked to says 60,677th site, I picked TLD because it seemed more accurate for this purpose to include wikipedia, google, etc. etc. once instead of once per language and region and etc. etc.
Laura
Big Kiki is big. And he’s giving you side eye.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
It’s coming from inside the White House…
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Cool. I am out.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Have a good evening, I’m gonna doodle and annoy y’all.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
You mean the David [emoji] Koch commenter here?
trollhattan
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oooh, details required!
Yarrow
@Major Major Major Major: @Mike J: Wait…I thought this was a top 10,000 blog. Have we dropped? Sad!
Yarrow
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I knew the internet would loooove those pieces of paper.
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
Since Omnes apparently has retired, I will fill in. He said last night that he found an ’07 manual 6-speed, same or similar model to what he had before. Owned by a schoolteacher, good maintenance record. Currently in negotiations.
Timurid
@Gin & Tonic:
It would be a fitting end for the 21st Century Pinocchio, who just wants to be a Real Goy…
Mnemosyne
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA:
We’re in Chicago right now and put our names in for the ticket lottery. We did not get them, because we are not lucky when it comes to such things, so we still won’t see it until early September in LA. Sad!
GregB
One of the strangest things about this disastrous Trumpocalypse is how it is reorganizing some of the ideologues in the media.
There are now some neo cons and Republicans who see through Trump and are standing up to him. Frum, McMullen, Scarborough etc. It has also flung some folks who I used to read into a Trump apologist abyss.
Moon of Alabama is a madhouse, Zero Hedge a racist cesspit, Raimondo at anti-war is proto-fascist to name a few.
Major Major Major Major
@Yarrow: Well, you gotta figure, what percent of the sites above us are blogs? It’s not a third.
Yarrow
@GregB: It has been kind of fascinating to watch. I’m not really sure what’s going to come out of all of it. Perhaps some kind of realignment. Maybe a new party and new media outlets. I mentioned earlier today that there are hints about Fox having stronger ties to Russia than people suspect. If that’s the case and they get caught in all of this, who knows what might happen. Hannity’s got to be hiding something. He seems paranoid about the Russia stuff.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack:
Hopefully the apocryphal little old lady schoolteacher who nevertheless likes sports sedans. Will guess a 9^3 SS but maybe a 9^5 Aero? Manuals were pretty rare by then.
Yarrow
@Major Major Major Major: True enough. Is there an estimate for blog rank?
Mnemosyne
@GregB:
Though I find his phrase to be a little squicky, that’s what Adam means when he says that Russia has achieved “penetration at all levels” — they’re selling their propaganda through multiple outlets that one would think should be contradictory, but aren’t, because they’re united by conscious or subconscious racism.
Remember our old troll buddy BiP? He was a lefty who totally bought into the Russian propaganda that Russia Today was feeding him through people like Ed Schultz. The right wing is getting the same stuff through their churches, which are broadcasting propaganda through Russian Orthodox sources.
It’s propaganda all the way down, coming from both sides of the political spectrum at once.
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
Yes, a 9-3. Went back and checked.
Major Major Major Major
@Yarrow: Probably, but I’m not gonna do it!
GregB
It would appear they are getting the band back together to mount a unified push back on the exploding Russia story and the imploding Trump Presidency.
Twitter is the early adopter of much of the bullshit and I just took a swing past crazy town.
The bots are getting frothy again.
Also too, Trump visit to France as his collapse quickens seems almost operatic to me. T’s flunkies will use a state visit to the biggest rightwing punchline of a nation, to pump up his gravitas.
Here is Trump eating brie and foie-gras with the leader of Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Nation! How strong and leadery!
Not to mention it is in honor of Bastille Day.
Yarrow
@Mnemosyne: His phrase encompasses more than just media, though. Government officials at all levels, elected and non-elected. Businesses. Probably entertainment and sports too, if we thought about it. Anything they can use to disrupt.
Redshift
@Mnemosyne: Less than two weeks for us! I grabbed tickets for a matinee on Broadway when they went on sale a year ago.
ChrisH
New logic coming out is that because Loretta Lynch gave this Russian lawyer an extension on her Visa because she was in the US to defend a client in court, the meeting with Don Jr. was clearly an Obama collusion conspiracy with Russia to entrap Trump and also an excuse to bug Trump Tower. It’s Alex Jones level conspiracy theories all the way down.
bemused
I didn’t realize Trump was going to France.
Origuy
Speaking of the Russian Church, its head recently endorsed exorcism.
Origuy
@bemused: They’re having a military parade for Bastille Day. He loves those.
NotMax
So now one of your sidelines is being … (wait for it)
… an ottoman umpire?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@NotMax: The logic that you employed to come up with that is quite Byzantine.
Aleta
@Origuy: A good example of the difference between insanity –repeating what’s never worked and makes no sense and does harm– in Kirill and the ROC; vs people with mental illness, who Kirill wants to persecute.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@Aleta:
Kirill is a moron. None of the other Orthodox patriarchs are apt to follow – of course, he’ll do damage in North America via his good little lapdogs in ROCOR and OCA.
Aleta
@NotMax: Overprivileged tennis ref?
Aleta
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: In the meantime we have the self-negating Alliance Defending Freedom.
Bruce K
Wait, is this an open thread?
I wish I was physiologically compatible with cats, because there are some sweetheart cats who roam my neighborhood and react to me in a friendly way. Sometimes I want to just sit down on the front step of my apartment building and sort of commune with the local felines, because reading the news is doing wonders for my blood pressure (he said sarcastically).
I mean, I just got out of a Slack fight with someone who was blatantly using logical fallacies to assert that there were no crimes committed – that since Junior isn’t part of the administration, and hasn’t applied for any position that requires disclosure of foreign contacts, no charges are applicable – and then when I shot back that he was crossing up two completely independent issues (prohibition against soliciting or accepting foreign contributions vs. failure to report foreign contacts on a security clearance application), he griped that he weeps for the future of the world.
I don’t know whether he was simply trolling, or genuinely trying to disrupt arguments against the cheeto junta. At this point, is there even any difference any more?
Cookie monster
Automan? Terrible show….
J R in WV
@Omnes Omnibus:
Omnes, that’s the thing! He IS in the news being wrong, it’s just on an inside page because the front page is full of Russian rumors.