I held this up to the light. pic.twitter.com/XqO8bqE5CS
— Ivan the K™ ?? (@IvanTheK) July 11, 2017
The man famously considered “Dense” even by Congressional Republican standards may have had more political smarts than the crime family who put him on the ticket…
"Especially those pertaining to the time before he joined the campaign." LOL ICE COLD MIKE PENCE https://t.co/oO9jXxTQWa
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 11, 2017
Pence added, "now excuse me please, I have some drapes to measure" https://t.co/CbLYESXyfC
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) July 11, 2017
Of course, Pence is a big Old Testament reader, and that book is full of stories about treachery and intergroup strife…
"There’s absolutely no distance between the president and the vice president," @SHSanders45 tells reporters
— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) July 11, 2017
Yeah that's what they were going for with that first logo https://t.co/6rx19VwN4w
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 11, 2017
"They are like, literally the same person." @SHSanders45, later
— Sinead O'Rebellion (@DWhitINger) July 11, 2017
PHRASING!
I'm not saying Pence, but it does seem like Pence is the only person who can be benefitting from these disclosures. https://t.co/TtxK9JUTpO
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 11, 2017
Maybe Mike Dense, despite his claims at the time, actually did find that logo personally hurtful…
Reuters: President Trump's planned 2017 state visit to the UK has been delayed until next year
— Jesse Rodriguez (@JesseRodriguez) July 11, 2017
He’s afraid Pence’s people will change the locks while he’s gone.
jl
Mike Pence, He Was Dense Enough to Stay Clean!
I think that would make a good re-election campaign slogan for 2020.
Baud
If Trump and Pence get into an open feud, I will be sooooo happy.
Raoul
It could be Pence. It could be a 400 lb dude in a basement finally getting his revenge.
lollipopguild
@jl: Pence: Too stupid to be corrupt!
jl
I can hear the chants now at the next GOPer convention:
Mike Pence!
So Dense!
No Sense!
Lead Us Hence!
Hurrah!
Frankensteinbeck
Hmmm. I have been deeply impressed by Pence’s stupidity, but it doesn’t take much brains to betray your criminal boss. Particularly if you’re not smart enough to realize the legal gun goes against your own head next. Pence will not incriminate himself the way the Trumps have, but if he’s in on the Russia thing that won’t save him. The Trumps have surely handed Mueller enough leads to nail everyone involved.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Manafort personally recruited him to be VP. To the point of manipulating the President into picking him by messing with Pence’s flights.
Yarrow
Manafort brought Pence into the campaign. Pence is involved. He knows plenty about things that happened after he joined the campaign. Traitor.
Hungry Joe
If Pence ascends to the presidency and they offer me a position as a Commander in Gilead, I’ll turn it down. I swear.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: And what’s in all those redacted emails from when he was Governor of Indiana? While Gov he apparently met with some shady characters tied to Russia. He’s far from innocent. If he becomes president he won’t be there long.
Hal
Fuck it. I want Trump out. Pence is not brilliant. He as stupid as Trump, just a different kind of stupid. I was listening to a podcast from The Stranger in which Dan Savage made what I thought was a great point about Pence vs Trump. Donald Trump keeps you up at might wondering what’s next. Pence will be terrible, don’t get me wrong. But maybe not in the post apocalyptic sci-fi movie sense that Trump is.
Thoughtful David
I have a hard time seeing Pence come out of this clean and safe. When Trump goes down, he’s going to make sure everyone he can goes down too. Including the US.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Frankensteinbeck: Here’s to hoping Dense gets taken down as well
jl
I’m working on the Mike Pence campaign song.
Sorry Baud, I found bigger screw-ups to work with.
He could be whiling ‘way the hours, conferrin’ with other prisners
Consultin’ with the rain.
And he’s head would be scratchin’ while
His thoughts were busy hatchin’
If he only had a brain.
He’d unravel all the riddles for Trumpster individ’ls,
In trouble or in pain.
With the thoughts he’d be thinkin’
He could be those clues a linkin’
If he only had a brain.
Yarrow
@Baud:
Remember, Trump will throw EVERYONE under the bus to protect himself. Pence may think he’s safe. He’s not.
debbie
Hey, Anne, thanks for the link to the explanation of Chaos Muppets this morning.
Baud
@Yarrow: But he can’t be fired.
dww44
Since this is an Open Thread I’ll ask the question that’s been bugging me for at least a couple of days when I observed that I wasn’t seeing any Raven comments. Is he okay?
mdblanche
Mike Pence is just the piano player in this here establishment. Whatever the girls and their gentleman callers are doing upstairs was arranged at a meeting before he joined the campaign.
Mnemosyne
My big fear about Pence is that he’s the fundie-supported candidate. They actually say that he was put there to carry out God’s will. So IMO the odds of violence ratchet up in a major way if Pence gets into the Oval Office.
Thoughtful David
@Baud: No, but he can be slimed and betrayed.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: I am snarking. There is a reporter from Indiana who has been commenting on how similar Pence’s moves are as veep to what he pulled as governor.
Point is, either Pence is involved or he is too stupid to find his way to the WH and back home again.
Baud
@Thoughtful David: And that’s why I’ll be soooo happy.
smintheus
So how does Pence square this out-of-the-loop crapola with his earlier claim that nobody in the Trump campaign had any contacts at all with Russians?
Trump’s problem is Pence’s problem: They both lie so often that only the naive continue to believe any of their claims.
lamh36
Yarrow
@Baud: Pence can’t be fired but things can be released that show him to be a traitor. Why did Manafort bring him into the campaign? That has to pre-date anything in the campaign itself, so the ties are there. Release that info, he goes down. Trump blames Pence for all the Russian contacts. Done. Won’t work, but Trump may try it.
bemused
@lamh36:
Dumbest thuggish family ever.
Baud
@Yarrow:
And that’s why I’ll be soooo happy.
Oatler.
“If This Goes On…”
BCHS Class of 1980
A common refrain here but I find it very difficult to believe that Trump didn’t arrange for some slime to be directed Pence’s way. After all Trump has no loyalty and it was a shotgun marriage anyway…
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@lamh36: What Jr apparently doesn’t groak is what matters is how he responded to the email
Citizen_X
I hope Donnie is dumb enough to try to “You’re fired!” Pence. I want to hear his Tweetrage when he’s told he can’t do that.
And I’m not afraid of Pence. His political instincts are so bad that, when he was governor, he had made himself hated in Indiana. INDI-FUCKING-ANA.
smintheus
@bemused: Reminds me of how the Patriarca mob family of Rhode Island fell apart in a spree of mind-boggling stupidity a few decades ago.
Jeffro
My RWNJ dad and brother tried to tell me today that they a) aren’t really behind Trump, they just fully support his agenda(!), and b) they aren’t following things very closely until actual indictments come down “…instead of talking heads just saying things…and if Trump’s removed, [they’re] fine with President Pence or President Ryan”
I was, um, a little surprised at the rather strident tone I took in responding. (You might even call it shrill.) Especially at that last part. Truly, the Fox Bubble is strong with these two.
trollhattan
@jl:
“He’s bonafide!”
smintheus
@Citizen_X: Pence’s political instincts are so bad he used campaign funds for his mortgage and car payments.
Yarrow
@Baud: Time to start working on your happy dance!
jl
@Jeffro: With luck the knucklehead Trump vote will drop off (by HRC’s estimate that is about half), and half of the die hard bigots and authoritarians will tell themselves that He is not the one who is to come, lo, let us look for another.
Roger Moore
@smintheus:
He was an innocent dupe of their lies.
Baud
@Yarrow:
(ノ^_^)ノ
(ノ^o^)ノ
(ノ^_^)ノ
(ノ^o^)ノ
SiubhanDuinne
Remember the night before Trump announced that Pence would be his running mate? And remember all those stories that he was calling aides and his campaign manager and family members at midnight to ask if it was too late to change his mind and choose somebody else?
And then remember the actual announcement the next day, when Trump talked about the wonderfulness of himself for half an hour, recalled finally that he was there to announce Pence, basically said “Oh, by the way, it’s Mike Pence, great guy, you’ll love him” and then walked off the stage leaving Pence out there on his own?
Remember all that? Good times, good times.
Anne Laurie
@debbie: You’re welcome! (from a Chaos Muppet with aspirations, as Lithwick would say)
japa21
@lamh36: So Hillary was actually fine, as she couldn’t help what anybody emailed her, correct?
People were talking about how dumb Don Jr. was to release his email chain. Actually it was pretty smart. Remember, he had said that they came to him. The lawyer involved, however, said that the campaign approached them about getting dirt (which coordinates well with the earlier story put out there). Perceptually, there is a big difference between initiating the contact and responding to a contact. Legally it may make no difference, but perceptually, it is a big difference. Donny Jr didn’t release the email chain until after the Russian lawyer made her claim.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Citizen_X:
Trump: Pence is fired!
Aide: Uh, you can’t fire him sir. He’s elected too.
Trump: Somebody get Vlad on the phone! I think Mike needs some try some Russian tea
Anne Laurie
@dww44: Raven’s been in the On the Road posts, at least. I think real life is just keeping him particulary busy right now.
bemused
@smintheus:
I don’t know that story but watching the Trump family and equally dumb WH inner circle makes the people apprehended on the “reality” show Cops look smart.
Yarrow
@Roger Moore: He was an innocent dupe so well connected to traitor Manafort that Manafort pushed him as VP.
Anne Laurie
@Thoughtful David:
As a Democrat and a feminist, I consider that a win-win scenario!
Yarrow
@Baud: Nice. Keep dancing.
Patricia Kayden
@jl:
Watch it. You’re beginning to encroach on Baud’s position as Balloon Juice jokester.
SiubhanDuinne
@dww44:
He was around for the On the Road thread this morning.
Baud
@Yarrow:
???
Roger Moore
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
I’m not sure he believes there was anything wrong with the way he handled it. Winning is everything, and only suckers follow the rules. Why is everyone picking on him for doing everything he could to help his daddy win the election?
[pedant]And the word you’re looking for is grok not groak. To grok means to understand a thing so well it becomes part of you. To groak means to stare at somebody while they’re eating hoping they’ll invite you to share.[/pedant]
Patricia Kayden
@Frankensteinbeck:
More than enough by now and the shoes continue to drop.
smintheus
@Roger Moore: If he was duped by others’ denials, why didn’t Pence just leave it for those others to comment in public?
Greenergood
Well, if Pence goes to jail, at least he doesn’t have to worry about going to social occasions where there are women (or alcohol) present other than his wife …
bemused
@Jeffro:
Fox “intelligence” reporter did talk about Jr’s emails but left out all words Russia. No wonder their viewers don’t know shit.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
That can’t be real, can it?
ruemara
@SiubhanDuinne: Nah, real
Yarrow
@Baud: Ooohh! Nice. How many happy dances do you have?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@dww44: He commented in an early morning thread today.
different-church-lady
@lamh36: And apparently he can’t help what he types in reply either.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Two holes, one pole?
TenguPhule
@Baud:
I’m sure Trump has an actual cannon that says otherwise.
lamh36
So wait…so the pres briefings are STILL not allowed to be on camera…smh
The White House Press Corp is a bunch of Punk Azz B*&ches
germy
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
I’m afraid those two are destined for FEMA reprogramming camps at the rate they’re going.
Baud
@Yarrow:
┗(`ー´)┓
┏(`ー´)┛
┗(^0^)┓
┏(^0^)┛
Roger Moore
@japa21:
I don’t think it helps him much. Maybe he didn’t initiate contact, but he was obviously eager to get dirt on Clinton, no matter the source, and by his own recent admission was terribly disappointed when the Russians didn’t produce immediately.
Also, too, this ought to put an end to any claim the hacked emails came from anywhere but Russia. It strains belief to think the Russians were trying to trade dirt on Clinton to the Trump campaign in exchange for help lifting sanctions and then somebody else turned up the DNC emails immediately afterward.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
Don’t you mean when he gets evicted?
Patricia Kayden
@mdblanche: Pence’s voice: “Whatever are you implying? Those ladies and gents are simply conducting Bible studies in the upper levels. You impure heathen! O Mother, where is the fainting couch?!”
You know he’ll put on a song and dance to portray himself as the innocent victim of that philandering, cussing Trump (and his villainous family) who he never knew before he was forced to be his VP.
TenguPhule
@Hal:
So Less Hunger Games and More Handmaid’s Tale.
I don’t think the females here will consider that an improvement.
Roger Moore
@Greenergood:
Though he’s going to have to be careful on the whole sodomy angle…
TenguPhule
@Baud: Baud, are you possessed by Tunch? You seem awfully round in that picture.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
Its not gay as long as their balls don’t touch.
buddhacat
First time commenting here, been a lurker for a long time.
If both trump and pence go down, does Paul Ryan become president?
p.a.
Don Jr points gun at his own head. Pence starts laughing at him. Don Jr: “Why are you laughing? I get you next.”
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: You read the email and then attended the meeting though so…?
Steeplejack
@mdblanche:
Reminds me of the dimly remembered joke about the naïve young woman hired as a maid in a brothel. Her concerned mother asks if she is behaving and being treated correctly. The girl answers: “Yes, they’re all very nice to me, and I only have to help out a little when it gets really busy.”
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TenguPhule: Shhhh, Baud’s pregers again.
Quinerly
Short Axios piece…plus Roger Stone thinks Trump should just order the indictments of Clapper, Brennan, Susan Rice, and Pres Obama. I’m on overload, time to step away. Corner Stone picked a fine time to just abandon us.? https://www.axios.com/inside-the-white-house-scramble-on-the-trump-jr-emails-2457466929.html
Jeffro
@bemused: It must be very weird to work there…trying to report things so that your viewers aren’t totally blindsided by the events of the day should they encounter another, non-Fox-addled human being; yet, figuring out how to spin things like…like treason.
tobie
@jl: I like your song. What a great choice from the Wizard of Oz.
Patricia Kayden
@buddhacat: Here is the line of succession under Trump.
1. Vice President Pence
2. House Speaker Paul Ryan
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@buddhacat: Yes. If he goes down then Orin Hatch is next, then Rex Tillerson
?BillinGlendaleCA
@buddhacat: If Trump were to leave office and Pence did as well before a replacement was selected and approved by Congress, yes.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
Is starting a blog a good idea? Asking for a friend
Roger Moore
@buddhacat:
It depends on how things go down; a scandal big enough to take down the President and VP is unpredictable. If the vortex gets big enough to suck in both of them, it may well catch Ryan, too, since he was involved in blocking Obama’s attempt to publicize the whole matter before the election. If he doesn’t get sucked in, there’s always a chance whichever one of Trump and Pence leaves office second could manage to successfully nominate (and have confirmed) a replacement VP before being forced from office himself. I find that unlikely, since the nominee for VP would have to be approved by the House, and Ryan would have every incentive to stall the confirmation.
Jeffro
@TenguPhule: The Pence/Ryan thing was the last straw. “I’m okay with treason, even if it means that yet another Republican president is removed from/leaves office in disgrace, as long as the next batter up gets to push the GOP agenda.” Oh hellll no. If the Russians aided the ticket, and they did, the whole ticket’s been put into power by a hostile foreign power and we’re revoting or we’re invalidating Trumpov’s “win” and awarding the presidency to HRC. 65 million voters were deprived of their right to vote last November by these assclowns. No way that stands.
Jeffro
@Quinerly: Hey, when doubling down is their only strategy, at least it makes them predictable.
lamh36
This whole mess is ridiculous…smh. I’m just gonna but still I’m wait for indictment announcements if/when they come before I even give it heavy thought
So enough politics, lets talk movies.
First up, Atomic Blonde with Charlize Theron (Red Band Trailer), opening date: July 28, 2017
So I’m hoping Atomic Blonde is REALLY good and not all the fight sequences showcased on in the trailer… the original John Wick was so good because so many of the fight sequences weren’t featured in the trailer!
Apparently, Theron did alot of stunt training for the fight sequence!
Stunt training
SiubhanDuinne
@Patricia Kayden:
This is the stuff of bad political fiction. Think Allen Drury post-Advise and Consent.
scav
@Roger Moore:
He might have been in or at least exposed to training already. Because, in his world, one he clearly is comfortable with as he stays there, unaccompanied, When you’re a rich white [felon/man], you can grab them [what’s available] by the [what’s available].
bemused
@Jeffro:
Working at Fox or the WH sound like hellish jobs to me unless you like that sort of work.
Quinerly
@Jeffro:
I’ve being following too much RWNJ stuff today. Started early this AM when I read that Hannity was blaming Obama for allowing the female Russian attorney into the country. Overload for sure.
SiubhanDuinne
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
You need to ask John. Send him an email, put your question in ALL CAPS, and he’ll respond with one or two words. Guaranteed.
bupalos
I do this watching sports too, and it annoys people I watch with- I know it’s focussing on the small things right after we got a 50 yard bomb, but…
I can’t believe they are getting away with this idea that Jr. just decided to release his emails suddenly. All the outlets have it as Jr voluntarily releasing this stuff. THE TIMES WAS PUBLISHING IT AND CALLED HIM FOR A COMMENT. He punked them to get some marginal control of the story, period.
He should be getting ZERO credit, people should be laughing at how hamfisted it is. Instead I even heard some dem saying we thank him for being so transparent but….
Yeah, it’s transparent, but not like that. But it’s already being talked about like the fact that he released it is evidence that he at least doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. What??!
p.a.
@lamh36: got me at Charlize Theron.
germy
Morning Joe is no longer a republican.
He is now an “Independent” (just like every wingnut I’ve encountered since Bush II). They call themselves independent but repeat the same stupid talking points I hear from actual… you know, republicans.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Quinerly:
Please, please, O-man save us from our own stupidity.
Jeffro
@buddhacat: @?BillinGlendaleCA: @Roger Moore:
The timeframe is also important. There will be some time in between indictments here, and assuming Trumpov’s one of those indicted, or impeached, Pence would take the oath of office (possibly while also under investigation/indictment, which is, um, interesting). Who knows who he’d nominate as his VP, but it’d almost have to be someone with some sort of distance from Trumpov. That in itself would take a while, and then we’re knee-deep into investigations, hearings, indictments, trials, plea-bargains, and everything else…and probably coming right up on the 2018 elections, too.
At that point, the investigations might still be looking in to Pence…and we might just have a Dem House ready to impeach him for what he did, what he’s covered up, what he’s lied about, or all of the above. Who knows.
I think the most probably scenario at the pace we’re going is that Trumpov is gone from office by the 2018 elections, and that Pence will preside over the dissolution of the Republican party as it limps into 2020.
SiubhanDuinne
@buddhacat:
Welcome. Especially because you know how to spell “Buddha.” Also, cat.
r€nato
FROM: [email protected]
TO: [email protected]
SUBJ: Let’s Explicitly Agree Via Email To Murder Some People Together
JPL
@Jeffro: What agenda are they for? Tax cuts for the one percent while those working at Walmart can not afford health care. Well actually they could afford health care, if they chose not to eat and slept in tents.
just wondering.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: All of em guilty of collusion and treason.
As I posted earlier thread.
Every single Republican in the line of succession is a traitor.
Every Single One.
Quinerly
@?BillinGlendaleCA: That was this AM. Just a few minutes ago he had an exclusive interview with Trump Jr. (who obviously isn’t listening to any advice of his new counsel)
p.a.
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: @SiubhanDuinne:
It’s a great idea. How do you think JC got the house? Totally the blog. Reminds me; my monthly access fee is due.
Quinerly
@buddhacat:
Welcome!
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@lamh36: I plan on seeing that. Looks totally badass
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: There’s all kinds of weirdness and hinky people in Pence’s background. E.g. in just a few minutes of looking around this evening:
McClatchyDC from January 2011:
Who’s this Ralph Benko character?
CanadaFreePress from April 2014:
Eh?!?
WTF?
Who, writing a political column, claiming to be “conservative”, advocates running to Russia with the prospect of taking American territory?!?!
Yeah, he’s not to be taken “literally”. Sure. But what kind of thought process leads one to write such a thing, and publish it??
Pence is up to his eyeballs in this Russia stuff, whether he is smart enough to realize it or not.
Cheers,
Scott.
NotMax
@TenguPhule
No love ever lost* between him and me, but even Orrin Hatch (next in line after Lyin’ Ryan)?
*Hell, no like lost either, for that matter.
NR
@TenguPhule: I agree. Pence wouldn’t be any better than Trump. Yes, Trump is doing bad things, but he’s ineffective and he’s his own worst enemy. He hasn’t even filled most of the vacant positions in the federal government, for crying out loud.
Pence, on the other hand, would be just as bad as Trump on most issues (and probably worse on some others, like gay rights for example), but he doesn’t have chronic foot-in-mouth disease, he would quickly fill all the vacant positions in the government with a combination of Christian college graduates and the usual partisan Republican political hacks, and he would at least be smart enough to do basic things like have the White House lawyers look over sweeping executive orders before issuing them. Not to mention that he’d have a united Republican party behind him and a media that would be favorably comparing him to Trump and saying how “presidential” he was at every turn.
Replacing Trump with Pence would not be a win.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
Even Mar-a-Liasson on NPR sounded slightly peeved about that today.
Steve in the ATL
@TenguPhule:
Rotating tagline?
TenguPhule
@NotMax:
Tweets coming out that even Hatch is making excuses for Trump, saying “its just the kid, so no connection to Trump himself”.
I stand by my remarks.
Jeffro
@JPL: That’s kind of what I told them: you’re letting yourself be led down this path, justifying things that you never would have imagined yourself justifying a year ago, and for what?
And more importantly, where will you be a year from now?
debbie
@germy:
He and Mika are on Colbert tonight.
sdhays
In the excited daydreams of Trump shitting all over Mike Dense (more than is his usual – thanks for the awesome reminder, @SiubhanDuinne!) and bringing him down as well, I feel it’s necessary to point out that if Dense is as complicit in all of this as we think likely, Dense is also taking orders from, or at least deeply attentive to the desires of, Vladimir Putin. Trump is normally reckless and undisciplined, but when Daddy Putin is watching and Russian interests are involved, Trump stays on message. If Putin warns Trump about lashing out at Dense, Trump will keep his shit-hole shut. That’s how you do business with the Russian Mafia as long as Trump has and live to shit all over your country.
So we’ll just have to see what pleases the Puppet Master…
SiubhanDuinne
@Steve in the ATL:
Second this.
TenguPhule
@Steve in the ATL:
Sure, let’s go with that.
Jeffro
@NR:
I’m sorry, but Trump must go – justice demands it and our national security demands it. Pence will face his own set of consequences, and his own roadblocks.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: They finally figured out that there’s an internet and that video makes it harder to deny they said whatever it is they want to deny.
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden: And let’s not pretend he didn’t say “Love it.” in the email message. No weasel words there.
r€nato
Tonight’s guest on Hannity: Donald Trump Jr.
SYNOPSIS: Hannity lovingly tosses Trump the Lesser’s salad, and confesses that while he’s not into scat play, he might give it a try with Trump Jr. and his father.
satby
@buddhacat: welcome to commenting!
danielx
Not to belabor the obvious, but that wouldn’t require a lot of heavy lifting even for Pence.
danielx
@Citizen_X:
Actually his political instincts aren’t bad, they just tend to be outweighed by the evangelical baggage he trucks around with him.
dww44
@Anne Laurie: thanks.
BCHS Class of 1980
@bupalos: I’ve heard on MSNBC that the email chain looks incomplete. Since the pattern of the NYT on this story is to drop crumbs, let Junior flounder a little, and then to drop more crumbs contradicting him, it wouldn’t surprise me if they withheld some emails while suspecting he might only release the ones that he was asked about.
Frankensteinbeck
@Quinerly:
Wow. So much for Stone being the criminal mastermind of the group. He’s just as delusionally self-absorbed as the rest.
MisterForkbeard
@BCHS Class of 1980: Right. The whole thing about Russian Secret Agent Lady saying “They came to us and were really desperate” is probably true – it just happened outside of this particular email chain. Most likely arranged some weeks or months earlier, especially since THIS mail contains allusions to having already established a relationship with Russia to support Trump’s campaign.
satby
OT, though I know nothing really is in an open thread. My rescue is having a very small fundraiser to have a tumor removed and biopsied for a sick cat that was ditched at one board member’s house. We have a lot of spay neuters in the pipeline, so any help to pay this vet bill would be met with extreme gratitude! Our goal isn’t much, but we’re really overextended right now.
Gvg
One of the problems with Ryan succeeding Pence IMO is that I think the house gop
Is overloaded with self centered egos right now and I have always wondered if someone might challenge him for the speakership if it starts looking likely that both the POTUS and VP are about to go. Remember they were so split they had trouble agreeing on Ryan.
If some republican’s have had enough at some point in the evidence and either or both Ryan and McConnel try to stop impeachment, it wouldn’t take too many GOP rebels to make Peloisi speaker or schummer Senate leader. They don’t think like that though.
ET
Ahhhh Tweeters come through… Trump = Manchurian Cantaloupe and Junior is the orange that doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Manyakitty
@Jeffro: I’ll buy that.
Another Scott
@satby: Donated. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: You are such a kind person, we are lucky to have you here.
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: (blush). Thanks. Satby does so much – she’s an inspiration.
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: I sometimes marvel at our Balloon Juice community and how we all found each other on the internet.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: I lost the sails and oars of my boat in a storm and washed up on shore.
Felonius Monk
@Omnes Omnibus:
That’s what often happens when an Army guy tries to join the Navy.
Omnes Omnibus
@Felonius Monk: It was supposed to be a three hour tour. A THREE HOUR TOUR!
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: @Omnes Omnibus: Any port in a storm? Is that what you’re saying?
They should make a new Gillgian’s Island only with people from Balloon Juice. That would be funny.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: Actually, I migrated here from Eschaton when it started to get weird over there.
Another Scott
@Omnes Omnibus: Comments over there are weird…
Cheers,
Scott.
satby
@Another Scott: You truly are an inspiration yourself, and I am constantly in awe of both your determination, intellect, and generosity. You educate, enlighten, and share so freely with us here. Thank you so much Scott!
satby
@WaterGirl: indeed! I suspect I need to thank you too!. Or somebody else around here.
J R in WV
@SiubhanDuinne:
There was evidently a pretty bad storm in his neighborhood, with huge trees down and at least one old home destroyed… so he could be preoccupied right now.
satby
@Omnes Omnibus: I wandered over from Duncan’s place too, long time ago when Cole was still a conservative. Haven’t checked back at Eschaton for years, now that I think about it.
Omnes Omnibus
@satby: Casting my mind back, I think I migrated during 2008.
No One You Know
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
To the tune of “Turn Back, O Man” from GodSpell
Turn back, O-man,
forswear thy private ways,
Trump now is Putin’s
And none may
punt his plays,
Dada-Dadada
Yet while we seethe
And in that seething grief,
no man but you
could take us
from this pyrite thief
Turn back O-man
Turn back O man
Turn back O man
relieve our foul disgrace!
instrumental bridge
Turn back the GOP
for we can’t find a phrase
to make them honest, nor to
doubt their ways
Dada-dadada
Gilt-edged, gold dreams
we dream they guilty be
would we but wa-a-ake
Constitutionally
Turn back, O GOP
Turn back, O GOP
Turn back, O GOP
FORSWEAR.THY.FOOLISH.WAAAAAAAAAYS.
No One You Know
@satby: Donated. Wish I could do more.
J R in WV
@buddhacat:
Unless several members of the legislative branches of the government are also busted for treason… Like Pauly Ryan. But, yes, if Pence and Trump are impeached at the same time, Pauly would be the new guy.
If Trump is impeached/resigns and Pence becomes president, he can nominate a new VP, who would replace Pence if Pence later is impeached or resigns. But if that nominee isn’t confirmed by the time Pence leaves office, then again, Pauly Ryan would be sworn in. Sad. I hope Pauly is indicted along with Hatch and McConnell even before Trump is in deeper hotter water.
satby
@No One You Know: Thank you! Every donation is deeply appreciated!