Busy Putin will ‘try’ to make time for Trump: Kremlin https://t.co/MzWavy1iYo
— Eric W. Dolan (@EWDolan) June 30, 2017
The Kremlin has underlined that the planned meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump, will have to hinge on Putin’s busy schedule.
Both leaders will attend the G20 summit in Hamburg, Germany next month—an occasion that has long been touted as their first chance for a face-to-face meeting. As the July 7-8 summit approaches, however, there has been no announcement regarding the exact date and format of the meeting. It is not clear if it will be a side meeting or a full-fledged bilateral sitdown…
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My god. "Trump has told aides to come up with possible concessions to offer as bargaining chips in his planned meeting next week with Putin" pic.twitter.com/agsHiBGxzD
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) June 29, 2017
… There is strong resistance in the NSC and state department to one-sided concessions aimed simply at improving the tone of US-Russian relations. There is also opposition within the administration to Trump’s preference for a formal bilateral meeting with Putin at the G20 summit in Germany, as first reported by the Associated Press.
Some officials argue the meeting should be a brief and informal “pull-aside” at the two-day summit, which starts next Friday in Hamburg, in view of the fact that Trump is under multi-pronged investigations into his campaign’s relationship with Moscow. The sceptics also argue there has been no let-up in Russia’s military intervention in Ukraine, which was the trigger for the bulk of the sanctions….
Couldn’t we just gift-wrap this guy, and leave him over there permanently?
President Putin with Henry Kissinger today in Russia. Few Americans have spent as much time with Putin as Kissinger. pic.twitter.com/sY39GneT3o
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) June 29, 2017
lollipopguild
WE give Putin his toy-trump. Putin has to promise to keep trump and never give him back.
dr. bloor
Fucking hell. Putin/Kissenger looks like Voldemort meeting his personal banker at Gringott’s.
debbie
Guess he’s just not that into you, Donnie.
rikyrah
Peanut has decided that she wanted to watch The Wizard of Oz…so, she is on the Kindle Fire right now ?
hellslittlestangel
Putin: “Sorry, I have to wash my hair.”
The Orange Better One: “I could blow you — I mean blow-dry you!”
rikyrah
Possible concessions to Vlad?
Da hail ??
debbie
@rikyrah:
I think I still know all the words by heart. My niece used to get so angry when I started.
SiubhanDuinne
@lollipopguild:
No regifting! NO REGIFTING!!
piratedan
well if that statement doesn’t indicate that Putin views Trump as his punk bitch, nothings does. Plus concessions to improve relations… really? Based on what? I guess Donald sees Putin as the type of leader he aspires to be, ruthless, his word is de facto law. Guys who disagree are either marginalized or have a high fatal accident rate.
tell me again how much Donald loves our contry
Roger Moore
@SiubhanDuinne:
But with Trump there’s always regrifting.
eclare
@rikyrah: Still love that movie, know the words to the songs….
Adam L Silverman
Kissinger is once again acting as a back channel (1968…) to sell out the US to its enemies:
And I highly recommend clicking over and reading all 15 of McKew’s tweets – both the translations from Lavrov’s speech and her analysis. Excellent work.
CZanne
@lollipopguild: I think that goes something like The Ransom of Red Chief.
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Then you will most certainly appreciate the entire film in alphabetical order! (Link. This is either amazing or sick. Maybe both.)
Ken
I must have missed the chapter in The Art of the Deal that said to lead with concessions.
piratedan
@Adam L Silverman: well Kissinger is an asshole, so perhaps he’s just the guy to back channel….
debbie
@SiubhanDuinne:
Wow! I watched (I think) through the A’s, and am bookmarking it for later. I can’t even begin to imagine how they managed to assemble this version. Thanks!
Iowa Old Lady
@dr. bloor: It’s amazing how widely Harry Potter references have penetrated into the culture. Everyone seems to recognize them. Although a couple of years ago, Mr IOL did walk into my study and ask me who Voldemort was.
MomSense
@rikyrah: @debbie:
I still know every word. I loved that movie when I was a kid.
Ruckus
Does anyone else have a feeling that this is all a big joke?
And we are the punchline.
trollhattan
@Iowa Old Lady:
Aloud?!?
efgoldman
@piratedan:
Orange Julius loves only himself, nothing and nobody else is worthy. Not kids, spouses, parents, extended family, nothing and nobody. Not one fucking thing except ME ME ME ME
ETA: And Anne, that headline’s a winner!
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
He really is an extremely and badly spoiled 4 yr old.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: That is very strange. It beats the whole Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon theory for strangeness.
Bruuuuce
@piratedan:
Or tell me, right wing wannabe tough guys, how much stronger El Jefe and his junta are than the Democrats who actually imposed sanctions, negotiated concessions, and live tough, rather than just talk it.
Iowa Old Lady
@trollhattan: Yeah, he said the name! He’s such a muggle.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
So everyone is starting to learn that if you’re nice to him, you get splattered with shit. NBC didn’t release the Apprentice outtakes, and he’s trashing them. Zucker hired Lewandowski, kept facilitating Lord appearances, salvaged Trump over and over.
Flynn’s life has gone to shit, so has Manafort’s.
Everything he touches turns to shit – and now he’s touching the whole country.
efgoldman
@Ruckus:
Who’s also not too bright; which, under the circumstances, I suppose is a blessing. For all the damage he’s doing, he could do a lot more if he and the grifters around him were even halfway intelligent and clever.
TriassicSands
I expect Trump to get a really good price for the US when he sells it to Putin. And Trump Tower and Mar-a-Lago have to be included.
SiubhanDuinne
@eclare:
When it first came out about a year and a half ago, I actually watched it straight through. It is definitely extremely strange.
Karen
there was a cartoon, after dolt had meeting in oval office with russians; showed him giving away the “football’ because he only plays golf
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
I know! Can’t even imagine the kind of mind that would think this up in the first place, let alone have the patience to do the cut. But it’s hypnotic and wonderful in its fashion.
japa21
I can’t wait to see Trump try to pull his handshake mojo with Putin. Trump wouldn’t be able to use his hand for a month.
Waratah
Putin will try to find time for Trump. I wonder how Rebublicans in the senate and the house feel about this.
ThresherK
Trump has a whiff of Gil from The Simpsons about him.
Roger Moore
@Iowa Old Lady:
That is, if not the main point, at least a major point of popular culture. It serves to give people exactly this kind of reference.
efgoldman
@ThresherK:
I would prefer never, ever to be close enough to be able to find out what he smells like, thank you.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
There is a comic strip called Monty by Jim Meddick which has a recurring character who is the very spoiled and obnoxious son of a rich asshole. He could be based upon drumpf. The kid is so spoiled and such and asshole in his own right that if I see a strip with him anywhere in it, I just pass it by. It’s too depressing to know that there are kids like this in the world who will physically grow up but never progress past being a fucking spoiled child.
Also watched a YTube of the development of some rich assholes personal yacht. A standard personalized yacht for a lot of millions was not enough for him, he had to have one designed specifically for him, from the keel up. There are too many people with way too much money in this world. And the one thing it hasn’t bought any of them is humanity. The French got it right a while back.
Frank Wilhoit
Kissinger : Putin :: Strom Thurmond : Clarence Thomas .
Ruckus
@TriassicSands:
The price may be good for Vlad, it won’t be good for the master dealer. Or especially us. He’s done nothing good his entire life. Not one fucking thing.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Iowa Old Lady: @Roger Moore: I still have my “Republicans for Voldemort” bumper sticker on my pickup.* I considered scraping it off a while back, but now it seems more timely than ever.
*I have an increasingly work-scarred and beat-up Toyota Tacoma, and I live in San Francisco, so I needed something to add a little good juju.
TriassicSands
@MomSense:
I’ve seen it many times, but one stands out. I saw it in a theater for the first, and only, time in the fall of 1998 when they did a “Special Edition” re-release that was digitally restored with remastered audio.
I just saw that it was shown in 3D-IMAX in 2013. That seems unnecessary.
Anyway, after many viewings on TV, it was great to see it in a nice theater. The restoration and remastering were well done.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
I’d bet he smells far worse than a man from Estonia that I used to know, who ate an entire raw onion at break time. Every damn day. Like an apple.
Jeffro
I hope they don’t meet, quite honestly. Despite him being the GOP’s president, not the US’s, it’ll be hard not to shake that feeling of embarrassment as an American when Donnie falls all over himself to please his crush.
blech
mainmata
@Adam L Silverman: Arrgh, I have lived my whole life with that criminal continually sabotaging his adopted country. Die Kissinger!
hellslittlestangel
@SiubhanDuinne: That’s wild! I’ve gotten up to “d”.
Also, for those wondering, the editing was done programmatically, not by hand.
mainmata
@japa21: Putin is an expert in the martial arts so would be a really stupid move by Trump. I can’t believe we even have to talk about these kinds of things.
TriassicSands
@Ruckus:
Ruckus, I think I can say with certainty that it will be the best deal, the very, very best deal in the history of the universe. Of course there might be war when Trump tries to renege on the agreed upon deal and then sues Russia for being mean.
TriassicSands
Putin v. Trump: The Handshake Felt Round the World.
That needs to be filmed in 3D-IMAX from multiple angles with Surround Sound!
Ruckus
@TriassicSands:
That’s what I figured you meant. Still couldn’t take the chance.
Uncle Cosmo
@Adam L Silverman: Henry the K is Trumpolini’s back channel to Putin; Putin is Trumpolini’s back-door man. Makes perfect sense to me…
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: Wow! Only made it partway through the A’s….
efgoldman
@mainmata:
Henry is undead. He will outlive us all.
J R in WV
@piratedan:
But of course Peter died the other day. He wasn’t young, but he looked healthy.
Trump isn’t worried about Peter’s death, just another death, one of many that day. Perhaps someone will burn those former Russian vacation Dacha’s right where listening stations would be located, if one wished to locate listening stations, before Trump can give them back to their former residents. That would be amusing, the flames and all.
And Trump could gift Putin with the burnt out ruins, what a happy gifting!!
SiubhanDuinne
@Roger Moore:
Heh.
lumpkin
One of his aides needs to make sure to wipe the cum off of D’s chin before he goes back out in public.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
It’s very hard waiting for the long game. Peach Pol Pot needs to be gone ASAP.
randy khan
It’s fascinating that this leaked. I don’t want to discount the possibility that this is just one more example of the leakiest Administration ever, but I wonder if it’s an effort by some people to head off the unilateral concessions at the pass.
jl
Sugar Daddy Vald is probably pissed the low energy and fumbling Trump couldn’t push through unilateral lift of sanctions on the down-low early in the administration.
Putin doesn’t want to hear any whining about the Deep State and such like nonsense.
Edit: Now Putin will have to go through the motions of ‘doing something’ in return for stuff. What a pain in the butt that’s going to be. And then Trump will eff it up anyway.
Edit2: is it clear that Puting wanted Trump to win, or he just wanted to work with an HRC administration that was weakened due to Russian meddling with election?
SgrAstar
@efgoldman:
I think this is a dangerous pov. Why? People like Miller and Bannon aren’t stupid. Don preens in the spotlight while the emissaries of evil are doing phenomenal damage. EPA? On life support. WH Office of Science? Gone. Climate Science? Public Schools? Federal Courts? Voting Rights? Civil rights enforcement? These people are destroying everything they can, and they’ve only just started. We have a huge job ahead to try to push back…for the next 3.5 years.
J R in WV
All these people are stupid. They’re risking the human race for their brand of idiotic politics. Think of the alternative to their politics: Human caused climate change is happening, and at a faster and faster rate.
Left uncorrected, agriculture may become impossible, along with living by the sea on the beach, living by rivers, etc. And then what will we do for food with no agriculture?
These people are acting like it’s all just power trips. But if science is correct, we could all die off. Like dinosaurs died off 65 million years ago. This isn’t just politics anymore. Science has moved us from primitive feudal cultures to modern life with air flight from one continent to another, just for recreation.
Yet these Republican politicians profess mot to believe in Science!!!
If they are correct, no harm done. But if they are wrong, if Science is correct and irreversible damage is being inflicted on the climate, the human race, Republican or Democratic, will die out. Perhaps quickly, perhaps slowly. But without modern technology and agriculture, we are so screwed!! And being rich and powerful won’t help your family more than a little bit.
Dying soon versus dying after an extra decade, what’s the diff? Not much. I’m old already. I can afford to prepare for the end of modern technological culture, and keep our little enclave going for quite a while. Big deal if the culture itself is doomed !!
So, yes, these guys are stupid. Their Ayn Rand politics in the face of real science is crazed. Power doesn’t matter in the face of implacable forces of nature!! Doom cannot be forced away with political power or riches, only developing technology capable of opposing climate change can avert doom.
And these guys don’t believe in science, nor technology. We are so Fuqued.
HyperSphericalCow
@Adam L Silverman:
Regarding Kissinger, my father once said, “I don’t think he’s a patriot”. I think he was right.
Frankensteinbeck
I know the senate passed a bill making it impossible for Trump to cancel the sanctions himself, and did so by a huge veto-proof majority. 92-8, I think? Does anyone know how that fared in the house?
eclare
@Frankensteinbeck: Supposedly the House is trying to delay it and water it down.
efgoldman
@J R in WV:
It pleases me to know that Mal a Loco is right at sea level, and right on the edge of the land.
Wag
@SiubhanDuinne:
Disorienting, yet satisfying.
frosty
@J R in WV: I know, I know. A couple of years ago I figures we went through Peak Oil and the climate tipping point during the W administration. If not then, then now. I try not to think about it.
Another Scott
@eclare: TheHill has a bunch of details.
It sounds like a mess, the House is fighting with the Senate about whether it violates the Constitutional requirement that spending bills originate in the House, it seems to have Iranian sanctions along with Russian ones, Donnie wants it weakened, etc., etc.
Who knows what will happen. :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
Wag
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
Clarification. He’s grabbing the country, not touching it.
Ruckus
@HyperSphericalCow:
I know your dad was right.
J R in WV
@efgoldman:
Yes, I had that thought, and looked it up on the Google Map Earthview just to enjoy the nearness of his trophy mansion to the upcoming sea. Back during his first meet there with some foreign dignitary, who got to see it before it is wiped out by Trump’s poor decision-making.
It’s a beautiful picture !!!!
Glug!
Of course it was built by others in the far ago, Marjorie Meriweather Post and HER architects.
He doesn’t even appreciate nice things that he can afford.
al
Alaskans should be nervous.
Tehanu
@CZanne:
Wish we had upvotes here. Since we don’t, consider this as one for the Ransom of Red Chief reference!