Monday Evening Open Thread: Happy Juneteenth!

And making June 19th a national holiday sounds like a great idea — in this era of White Revanchist Backlash more than ever!

The current administrators behind the Oval Office sent out a (blessedly anodyne) statement, but I like the last guy’s proclamation better:

Juneteenth is a time to recommit ourselves to the work that remains undone. We remember that even in the darkest hours, there is cause to hope for tomorrow’s light. Today, no matter our race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, we recommit ourselves to working to free modern-day slaves around the world and to honoring in our own time the efforts of those who fought so hard to steer our country truer to our highest ideals.

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Apart from that, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
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    Baud says:

    Happy Holidays! #WarOnJuneteenth

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    ThresherK says:

    That statement sounds like it came from a greeting card. However, considering Trump’s note in that museum last week, who here really wants him “celebrating” and “commemorating” Juneteenth?

    I think it’d be mere words. Cheap, meaningless words his DOJ has been undermining since day one. But as I’m a white suburbanite, others here have more authority to be angry at him than I.

    The thunder has boomed and the skies have opened up here in CT. No matter the water temp in the town pool, it’s a washout.

    (And the rain’s not gonna make the pool any warmer tomorrow.)

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    NCSteve says:

    Dear God. When I read something like that statement from the last actual president, I flash back to the moment when I realized Trump was going to win and literally had to run to the bathroom and vomit.

    Even when you know what happened, and know what we don’t know that we ought to know about what happened, it is still inconceivable that we went from that to this. We’re just so broken. Even leaving aside the part where we have a puppet regime installed by a hostile foreign power that has an economy smaller than Italy’s, we’re just so broken.

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    lamh36 says:

    Maybe I’m being too petty, or too Black, but let me get this straight…the Trump co statement on Juneteenth, spent 3/5 of it’s content on the white General reading the proclamation…compared to the PBO co statement that spent 100% of it’s statement focused on ya know the people it DIRECTLY affected…THE FREED SLAVES…

    Because of course…

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    JPL says:

    Happy Day I never heard about Juneteenth until I moved to Texas in the eighties. At that time, I’m not sure how many other states celebrated. My children were in elementary school, and studied about it. Of course, Texas has changed a lot since then.

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    Baud says:

    @lamh36: I saw what you did there.

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    WaterGirl says:

    I am worn out from feeling outrage at nearly everything I see reported in the news. I am about to spontaneously combust bust, must somehow find the magic potion of strength and hope in order to keep fighting.

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    JPL says:

    @WaterGirl: omg.. Last night I fell asleep during Grantchester, but did see My mother and other strangers on PBS. Anyway, my dreams were about James Norton promoting Trump, and My mother and other strangers about Trump’s speeches. I live in GA’s district six, so that could explain some of it. Today I stayed away from the TV.

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    lamh36 says:

    @JPL: I don’t think any other state does. I’m from Louisiana and we learned about it some adjacent cities to Texas have descendants so they may commemorate it. Mostly I think it’s Texas

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    Baud says:

    This has been another episode of Both Sides Are The Same. Tune in tomorrow when we explore another facet of our politics in which the two sides couldn’t be more diametrically different, even though most people won’t admit it.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Acosta
    At off camera no audio briefing, Spicer took a question from a Russian reporter but not from CNN. #pravda

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    WaterGirl says:

    @JPL: When Grantchester isn’t safe to watch, you know it’s bad!

    Please tell me there is no good reason to think that James Norton would be promoting Trump. It’s so discouraging when I find that actors I like are worse than idiots.

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    Chet says:

    I had trouble remembering which “teenth” of June was Juneteenth, until I figured out a nice mnemonic today: June and nine both end in -ne. You’re welcome!

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: I think that was when my lily white, toe head son asked me what color he was?
    He was in first grade. Of course, it was at the supper table because we only ask deep questions at the supper table. Anyway, he explained he didn’t understand because no one is truly black or white. He’s the same way all these decades later. It might have been the same year that he said I just want to tell you I didn’t climb on Mrs. L’s roof at the supper table.

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    lamh36 says:

    Saw this morning there was another report on Carrie Fischers autopsy. I won’t link to it here, but just had to ask, when did it become the norm that folks autopsy report is released for public consumption? So no HIPAA laws violation once you die?

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    Baud says:

    @lamh36: Don’t think so. It’s a public record of a government official.

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    JPL says:

    @WaterGirl: It was a nightmare. I haven’t had one that good since the freedom girls.
    If you saw Happy Valley though, you know he makes a hell of a villain, but not a Trump one.

    as far as I know

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    lamh36 says:

    @Baud: Carrie Fisher was a government official…

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    lamh36 says:

    @aabramson 5h5 hours ago
    More
    Wolf Blitzer on CNN: “Normally we would bring you the WH briefing… we’re not allowed to show it”

    Um hmm…yet MSM fixed their mouths say that PBO admin was not transparent…if the PBO admin had done this…MSM would be up in arms

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    trollhattan says:

    @WaterGirl:
    Speaking of spontaneous combustion, it’s the climate, always changing, people!

    This Afternoon
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 105. West southwest wind around 9 mph.
    Tonight
    Mostly clear, with a low around 71. West southwest wind 7 to 11 mph becoming south in the evening.
    Tuesday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 105. South wind around 7 mph becoming west southwest in the afternoon.
    Tuesday Night
    Clear, with a low around 70. West southwest wind 7 to 13 mph becoming south in the evening. Winds could gust as high as 22 mph.
    Wednesday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 108. Southwest wind around 9 mph becoming west northwest in the morning.
    Wednesday Night
    Clear, with a low around 75.
    Thursday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 109.
    Thursday Night
    Clear, with a low around 71.
    Friday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 103.
    Friday Night
    Clear, with a low around 67.
    Saturday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 101.
    Saturday Night
    Mostly clear, with a low around 65.
    Sunday
    Sunny and hot, with a high near 97.

    Yesterday we blew through a 75-year old record to hit 106. In more typical years I don’t have to use the A/C until July. Punishment for all the rain, I guess.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @JPL: I think I tried to watch Happy Valley but it didn’t take. Was that he show that raven liked so well? I might have given it more of a chance if i had known who James Norton was back then.

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    debbie says:

    @lamh36:

    Autopsies are often in the news. Guess there’s no privacy for the dead.

    Over the weekend, it was reported that she suffered from sleep apnea, then today, it was all about the drugs in her system. If all that stuff had been in my system, I wouldn’t have been able to even get on the plane.

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    raven says:

    @WaterGirl: yup

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: Is the doctor attorney in?

    Just wondering what recourse I might have because the evil abusive CEO is playing games with my final 1,500.00 payment and my two reimbursements. Talking about holding them for 30 days, because, I don’t know, because she appears to think she can and that it’s okay to fuck with people’s livelihood.

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    Baud says:

    @lamh36: A princess…

    I was referring to the Medical Examiner.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist, says:

    The Rough Beast retweeted this from one of the sons he has a fifty percent chance of correctly identifying by sight

    Donald Trump Jr.Verified account @ DonaldJTrumpJr
    Not surprising at all!
    Father Of Otto Warmbier: Obama Admin Told Us To Keep Quiet, Trump Admin Brought Him Home

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    WaterGirl says:

    @raven: Hey, I haven’t seen you here in real time lately. What’s going on with your foot? Just started cramping for no good reason? Has anything helped?

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    JPL says:

    @WaterGirl: It’s pretty violent and BBC got a lot of flak because of it. It’s normally not my type, but truthfully during the Trump era, I find it easier to watch than Call the Midwifes. Sad but true. The interesting thing about Norton though, he was the perfect villain, and then to see him Grantchester, it was jarring. It took a few episodes of Grantchester to adapt. If you haven’t watched Grantchester, stream that.

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    lamh36 says:

    Sooo…who saw last night’s American Gods season finale?

    I don’t think I’m giving any spoilers here, but just in case…SPOILER ALERT

    I watched the first broadcast of the finale, and I watched the repeat broadcast just so I could see the Mr Nancy, Bilquis, and Easter scenes again.

    I saw a screen clip from this ep of the Bilquis backstory, so I was expecting the 70s bit, but the entire backstory was gorgeous and as per usual, Mr Nancy’s narration was on pointe.

    I hadn’t seen the entire blip of Easter, but mahn, that final scene was breathtaking, from Wednesday FINALLY proclaiming his name, to “Easter” letting out her old god glory out!!!

    Love…love…loved it.

    One of the best new show season finale I’ve seen in a while.

    Oh, and I even didn’t mind Laura in this…also too…I didn’t expect it, but damn if Pablo S. isn’t HAWT as hell as Sweeney!!!

    I have not read the books, but for anyone who has…was Shadow Moon as “naive” in the book as he comes across on the tv series?

    American Gods: Come to Jesus | Tom Lorenzo http://tomandlorenzo.com/2017/.....lM.twitter via @tomandlorenzo

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    Baud says:

    @WaterGirl: You were an independent contractor, right? If so, probably not more than a breach of contract claim. Not sure if you are entitled to put a lien on their property for unpaid amounts.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist, says:

    @Baud: a general!
    (or so I gather. The last Star Wars I saw had Alec Guiness in it)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @trollhattan:

    Could you reveal the minor detail of what location you’re talking about?

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    Tenar Arha says:

    Democrats are withholding unanimous consent tonight and talking against AHCA. Kamala Harris is on CSPAN2 right now.

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    raven says:

    @WaterGirl: Nothing, slow mag didn’t work. My BIL died yesterday so I’m waiting on the arrangements before I make plans to go to LA.

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    Baud says:

    @raven: I’m sorry. Condolences.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @JPL: I am watching Grantchester. Was really looking forward to season 3 and then I saw something in the previews that made me hesitant to watch last night – can’t any show just have a happy ending anymore?

    My DVR was 98% full when I quit at the nonprofit so there are nearly a million series I could catch up on, but it’s hard to find anything that doesn’t end the season with someone dying or some terrible thing happening. I finally decided on Scandal because none of the characters are good enough people that I would feel bad when something terrible happens to them.

    I think that after working 60-75 hours a week for the past 6 months that reality is hitting me now that I actually have enough time to do more than work and eat and sleep, and I’ve ended up a bit down in the dumps for the past several days. It’s overwhelming to see all the devastation that the Trump administration has brought, and continues to bring.

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    Baud says:

    @Tenar Arha: Good.

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    raven says:

    @Baud: It was time.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: Yep, an independent contractor.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @raven: I’m sorry for your loss raven, and for the whole family. The last few days sounded horrendous, and it’s good that he doesn’t have to suffer any more. And no one has to watch him suffer. I watched a good friend go through that with his wife for 2 dreadfully long years with brain cancer, and for him I think it was a relief when it was finally over.

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    Baud says:

    @WaterGirl: Don’t really know then. If you were an employee, there would probably be a state agency you could complain to.

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    JPL says:

    @WaterGirl: I watched it again today, and it was good. The problem I had with Call the Midwife, was I found it depressing, but that was due to what is going on around us. There’s a fine line between touching and depressing. If you really want to see the depths of James Norton’s acting, watch Happy Valley. It’s amazing that it is the same actor.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m pretty sure James Norton is not a Trumpanzee.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    And making June 19th a national holiday sounds like a great idea — in this era of White Revanchist Backlash more than ever!

    I’m one of the whitest people you’ll ever meet, and I’ve thought for years that the entire country should celebrate Juneteenth, preferably as a Federal holiday but at the very least as a national cultural observance.

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    lamh36 says:

    Al Roker and Tamron Hall should be getting together for the past 2 weeks LTBAO

    @thehill
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    Megyn Kelly’s Alex Jones interview beaten in ratings by “America’s Funniest Home Videos” rerun: http://hill.cm/c0wcGeQ

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    debbie says:

    @raven:

    Sorry about your brother-in-law. Eat bananas and cantaloupe. Potassium works for cramps.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Baud:

    Wasn’t she a general at the time of her death? That’s what Vanity Fair tells me.

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    Yoda Dog says:

    @lamh36: lol… that movie is terrible and I loved it. I was just a kid when it came out. But I saw it recently and chuckled all the way through it. It’s campy and fun.

    Cheers.

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    Matt McIrvin says:

    @lamh36: I remember that when we saw “Face/Off”, it was in a movie theater that had the sound volume turned up so loud that it was causing massive, ear-shredding distortion in the theater’s speaker system. I might have found the movie good for absurdist laffs had it not been so literally painful to sit through.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @WaterGirl:

    Well, Grantchester is a murder-mystery series, so people tend to die every week! But I’m as sensitive as they come, and I don’t think you’d be too upset by last night’s episode. I loved it. I love the acting team of Norton and Green, and Norton has great chemistry with Morven Christie.

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: Nice

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    Cheryl from Maryland says:

    @lamh36: I did, and I loved it. In fact, I have been so keen on the entire series. I bought Neil Gaiman’s book when it first came out, but how the show runners have amplified and stretched and enhanced the original for long form TV is just AMAZING. The back story of Bilquis made me weep. I have been pro-Odin since I was a child (I did drawings of him with Hugin and Munin when I was in elementary school, which my confused mother kept), so this last episode was so much Odin and I was so there. However, Pablo Schreiber as Mad Sweeney is killing it, and I’m now confused as to who is my favorite.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @lamh36:

    lol maybe she should change the name of her show to that (America’s funniest home videos)

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    zhena gogolia says:

    Where’s Mnemosyne? I wondered if she’d heard Lea Salonga’s wonderful version of “Burn.”

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    Baud says:

    @lamh36: Good.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Yoda Dog: IKR…it allowed both actors to camp it up as both bad/good guys…

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    gene108 says:

    @lamh36:

    Saw it when it came out. I was on college.

    Really caught me by surprise at how literal the title was.

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    lamh36 says:

    Ugh…Georgia…please go out there and VOTE AGAINST THIS BISH!!!

    @RawStory
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    Karen Handel tells mom of lesbian: ‘My faith calls me’ to stop your daughter from adopting a child http://ow.ly/aF7E30cF1CM

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    JPL says:

    @zhena gogolia: haha.. I started it by stating that I fell asleep during the episode, and in my dreams Norton was talking about Trump.

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    Uncle Cosmo says:

    @trollhattan: Aaaaaand where are you, exactly?

    (Pet Peeve: No list of BJ contributors with their geographic home locations. Other than a few obvious ones, mostly FPers, your weather reports mean fuck-all to me without at least a vague notion of where you’re posting from.

    (Better yet, forget the list–rquire every poster to enter their current location & add that to the line with their nym.) (ETA: Start with a requirement that everyone enter a default location to appear in the nym line, with the option of editing it in the comment form before saving the comment.)

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: She’s an asshole… I don’t mean to offend you, but locally she supported a candidate for council, who was all about giving builders what they wanted. Now ask me what I really think about her. lol

    She might have lost some conservative votes locally because of her stance. I hope so anyway

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steeplejack:

    Could you reveal the minor detail of what location you’re talking about?

    Why so harsh? Could be anywhere.

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    Quinerly says:

    Where’s Mnem? OT…have a link for her if she hasn’t seen it: http://my.chicagotribune.com/#.....-93885878/

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    lamh36 says:

    @Cheryl from Maryland: I have not read the book. But I do admit, the show makes me want to give it a go.

    It’s not my genre of choice, but I could def see reading it on a long vacation trip or plane ride…

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    stinger says:

    @raven: My sincerest condolences.

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    Kathleen says:

    @lamh36: While perusing the Googlzzz today I noticed James Risen from the FTFNYT who said in 2014 that PBO was the worstest plague evah on free/transparent media wrote another epistle in December 2016 blaming Obama for the way Trump was handling the press. I won’t even post links.

    And that concludes another episode of “FTFNYT”. Tune in tomorrow when we hear:

    Anonymous FTFNYT Reporter: Did you see the armed guards in black uniforms that Trump sent over lock the editorial board in the conference room?
    Risen: I blame Obama.
    MoDo: You mean Obami?
    Risen & MoDo: Ha Ha Ha

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @raven:

    Please let us know once your plans are in place. Are you just going to in-and-out, or are you going to carve out time for a meet up with some of the Angelinos while you’re there?

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    amygdala says:

    @Baud: I think you’re right about this. The doctor who pronounces a patient dead calls the medical examiner (ME), who has the option of performing an autopsy under a particular set of rules, such as proven or suspected homicide, evidence that drugs contributed to the death, and various others. If the ME opts to perform an autopsy, family consent isn’t necessary, and I think in most places the report is a matter of public record, like many court records are. I’d be surprised if Carrie Fisher’s death weren’t an ME case.

    If the ME declines the case, then the pronouncing doc should go to the next of kin and ask if they’d like to provide consent for an autopsy. If they do, it would be performed at the hospital by one of their pathologists. This doesn’t happen much any more. Autopsy rates have been falling for a long time. It’s unfortunate, because it’s a lost opportunity to pick up learn things that could save someone else’s life.

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    Baud says:

    The Supreme Court today. Notice who they omitted.

    And on Twitter, users can petition their elected representatives and otherwise engage with them in a direct manner. Indeed, Governors in all 50 States and almost every Mem- ber of Congress have set up accounts for this purpose.

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    Quinerly says:

    @WaterGirl:
    Summed up my feelings exactly.I’m hoping I’m just on overload. Fear that I’m becoming bitter…a lot of hate going on right now

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    Kathleen says:

    @raven: My condolences, Raven, to you and your family.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @zhena gogolia:

    Trumpanzee.

    I love that!

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    lamh36 says:

    @JPL: I really hate getting invested in local stuff like this…cause I know, alot of the times, as much money and calls as one makes…it’s really all about getting out local voters on our side to overcome the GOP sides…

    I’m an optimistic pessimist…so I expect the worse, but hope for the best…that’s what I’m trying to do in this case.

    I just REALLY, REALLY want Ossoff to win against this witch

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    Quinerly says:

    @raven:
    So sorry. Condolences.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @zhena gogolia: They can kill as many people as they like, just not the characters I care about! :-)

    I love the acting team of Norton and Green, and Norton has great chemistry with Morven Christie.

    Yes yes yes yes yes.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @lamh36:

    I would SO LOVE to vote against her. I can’t, I live maybe half a mile from the eastern boundary of the 6th District. But, as I have done now for about half a dozen election cycles (federal, state, and local), I’m doing Voter Protection (aka poll-watching) all day tomorrow.

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    Quinerly says:

    @zhena gogolia:
    Everyone is looking for her😁. Just left her a link.

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    Cheryl from Maryland says:

    @lamh36: I wouldn’t read the book if you are into the TV show. In fact, while I love Neil Gaiman, I find the TV version much better than the book. Shadow has more presence in the show, not to mention Laura, Mad Sweeney, Mr. Nancy (oh so fine Sunday night), in fact, everyone. If you want to read something of Mr. Gaiman’s, read Good Omens (written with Sir Terry Pratchett). While it has been considered for TV for decades!, it is a rollicking good read.

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    Tenar Arha says:

    SO I got curious and did some page one googling. Only 1 or arguably 2 of our 4 (non fox) local news stations look like they ever mentioned Juneteenth. Then there’s the AHCA, and IIRC in my brief check there’s only 1 station that’s covered what the Senate is planning during this current week.

    Does calling news stations and asking them why they aren’t reporting on this daily help?

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    Quinerly says:

    54% of rural Americans approve of what Trump is doing. WAPO/ Kaiser Survey

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    WaterGirl says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: That election would be an awesome one to vote in. Not only do you get to vote FOR someone you want to win but you also get to vote AGAINST someone you loathe. What a great day to vote.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Steeplejack: Sacramento Valley, but it’s basically affecting the whole southwest. Am informed heat tourists flock to Death Valley during these events, which has me scratching my noggin at the very thought.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Tenar Arha:

    Does calling news stations and asking them why they aren’t reporting on this daily help?

    Don’t know whether it would help, but it sure couldn’t hurt.

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    Baud says:

    Meanwhile in South Carolina (WSJ)

    While Georgia’s House special election Tuesday is a test of whether Republicans will cross party lines to support a Democrat, another contest the same day in South Carolina aims to measure a different proposition: Can a white Democrat drive enough black voter turnout to score an upset.

    The race is to replace former Rep. Mick Mulvaney, who President Donald Trump tapped to serve as his budget director. Archie Parnell, a former Goldman Sachs executive, is running on the Democratic ticket against Republican Ralph Norman, who narrowly advanced from a GOP primary race.

    With Mr. Trump’s approval ratings at historic lows and Democrats showing double-digit gains in turnout during two prior unsuccessful House special elections, South Carolina Democrats have spent recent weeks trying to build a machine to turn out the district’s African-American voters.
    Black voters represent 28% of the district but typically are a far smaller percentage of the electorate. To win, former South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Jaime Harrison said, black turnout Tuesday must be 35% or more of the electorate

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Quinerly: I read that and thought “then 54% of rural Americans can eat shit and die.” Lovely thought, huh?

    I do not want to turn into a bitter, angry person, but with all the hate and madness around us it appears that I will have to put some serious effort into not becoming like the people who have been spreading all the hate. Or maybe I’m just having a couple of rough weeks, hoping for that!

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    Baud says:

    @Quinerly: That’s much lower than I would have expected.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @WaterGirl:

    Can you move here and establish residency before 7:00 p.m. tomorrow evening?

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    lamh36 says:

    @WaterGirl: yes…it’s always good to have both options…lol

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    Spanky says:

    @amygdala: Right. There’s a long history of public announcements by the coroner.

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    Larry Turbo says:

    @lamh36: honestly we need to pack all this away after obama the negro league bunting alll of it. blacks have refused to progress with other progressives in fact they are still engaging in massive displays of their bigotry against queers and others. they aren’t at all equal partners in shouldering the load yet they always show up for cookies obama understood how blacks can get abraisive and how dems can lose by placating their whims. sometimes it’s what you earn and blacks need tough love from progressivess. they have been behaving unacceptable especially for their aspirations to be the base of the party. they attack unions and yet with blacks you don’t get any money like with unions forcing an unholy alliance with wall st in order to tolerate blacks and their non-existent fundraising. they do a lot of talk, they refuse to adapt and they make the dems worse off compensating for what they have destroyed.blacks need to apologize to queers for bill cosby. i mean you know blacks are hooting and hollering about how he got away with raping a queer, it’s like oj all over again

    i guess i am just not in the juneteenth spirit this year

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: Actually it does. A lot of folks are pro life, and my feeling is that you can’t be pro life and support ACHA. Even though it is local stuff, words like that matter. The idea that once a child is born, they are on their on is repulsive, and the folks I work with know that. Handel’s candidate lost, btw. I think if or when Ossoff loses, it is because of the negative ads against him. The RNC and Pacs have dumped lots of money into this race, and the ads are disgusting.

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    Spanky says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    (Better yet, forget the list–rquire every poster to enter their current location & add that to the line with their nym.) (ETA: Start with a requirement that everyone enter a default location to appear in the nym line, with the option of editing it in the comment form before saving the comment.)

    Right!

    You go first.

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    Tenar Arha says:

    @lamh36:I read that years ago, so nothing is fresh enough for me to compare anymore. Plus my favorite older Gaiman novel is Neverwhere so…

    Anyway, I don’t remember if I said this here before, but I missed the premiere, so I first saw Orlando Jones doing his Anansi monologue at the beginning of episode 2. “Angry is good! Angry gets shit done.” is everything. That performance grabbed me and made me watch the whole series. Oh, and Gillian Anderson as David Bowie guaranteed I’d continue. Last, I’ve been watching Ian McShane since he played Disraeli.

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    daverave says:

    @trollhattan:

    Turned my AC on for the first time yesterday aussi…. but it’s a dry heat, amirite??!?

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    lamh36 says:

    Oooh…where is Adam S…

    I see GG and his Russia-bots bros like Assange are trying to come for Joy Ann Reid…

    @JoyAnnReid
    What will I use my powers for next? Getting men hiding like cowards in embassies for fear of criminal charges to come out? Stay tuned… https://twitter.com/julianassange/status/876846901781561345

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    WaterGirl says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m gonna have to go with ‘no’ on that one. Where is Barack’s time travel machine when i needs it?

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: Hey, I see that our guy is coming back for another season!

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    JPL says:

    @JPL: Also to continue my rant, suibhanduinne mentioned on her facebook, someone mentioned about Ossoff busing in folks. I call bullshit on that. The only thing, I have seen is that can you house pro Handel folks from Alabama.
    The first election, an Ossoff supporter was approached and asked if she was bused in. She was a local teacher, and I know this because I was there supporting a local candidate. It’s a good sound bite though.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Baud:
    I don’t know what to think or expect anymore.

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    Baud says:

    @lamh36: I am not authorized to view those tweets.

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    Baud says:

    @Quinerly: Same here.

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    amygdala says:

    @Spanky: Heh. I should have mentioned that autopsies done at the hospital with family consent (as opposed to those done by the ME), are reported in the patient’s medical record just as a lab text or X-ray report would be. And also subject to HIPAA, I believe.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @WaterGirl:

    I didn’t invent it! I read it on BJ!

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @lamh36:

    Me too, but I don’t have much hope.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @lamh36:

    Wolf Blitzer on CNN: “Normally we would bring you the WH briefing… we’re not allowed to show it”

    The grave of the Onion is restless.

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    ET says:

    If he actually wrote that I will eat my favorite pair of shoes. Buckle and all.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Baud:
    In other news, I had totally forgotten how good that Malibu Coconut Rum is…on ice, with lime and muddled mint. Never drink on Mondays….but I told myself muddling mint would be relaxing…plus something I could control.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Tenar Arha: Haven’t read the book, I don’t really know, but from all accounts of folks I trust who have read the book…the casting is SPOT on for every God and un-God character…the casting folks deserve ALOT of praise here.

    The cinematography and direction, is nothing less than you kinda expect from someone like Bryan Fuller, if you’ve seen Pushing Daisies or Hannibal…then you know his aesthetic is gorgeous.

    The acting and delivery by Orlando Jones, Ian McShane, Pablo Schreiber, Yetide Badaki (Bilquis), Emily Browning (Laura) and even the naivety of Shadow Moon played by Ricky Whittle is all soo good.

    I mean…I’d be hard pressed to find a weak casting choice in the bunch, from the big gods to the ‘lesser” gods…

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    Baud says:

    @Quinerly: My first drunken experience was on Malibu rum!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Tenar Arha: Gaiman has a talent for writing really disturbing characters. And some of the situations they end up in are worse.

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    lamh36 says:

    @WaterGirl: Yes…2018 maybe be a good year… February: Black Panther. Luther starts filming early next year, so by Fall next year…new Luther… and November…fingers crossed…Dems win big?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    This has been another episode of Both Sides Are The Same. Tune in tomorrow when we explore another facet of our politics in which the two sides couldn’t be more diametrically different, even though most people won’t admit it.

    Baud, you’re terrible at being a politician. Stick to comedy.

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule:

    you’re terrible at being a politician.

    What gave it away?

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: What is Malibu rum?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Baud:

    My first drunken experience was on Malibu rum!

    Huh. Mine was Bourbon and Coke. That was 60 years ago, and I’ve never touched either Bourbon or Coca-Cola since then.

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    Baud says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yep. Haven’t had the rum since then either.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Baud: Tell us more!

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    Baud says:

    @Baud: I don’t remember!

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    lamh36 says:

    @joshrogin
    .@SenWhitehouse tells @wolfblitzer there is a ton of evidence Mike Flynn is a cooperating witness with the FBI. Wow.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Baud:
    My first ugly, hangover drunk…really my only…third year of college…frat party and rum and Cokes. Never had one since. In fact never had any liquor mixed with Coke since. Very rarely rum at all but someone left this Malibu stuff here a week ago. It looked lonely in the freezer. Never vodka. Beer, red wine, or gin and tonics for me. Rye whiskey straight in the winter.😈

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    lamh36 says:

    Ugh…Alan Grayson is trash

    @Scott_Maxwell
    Grayson sends out fundraising plea for Ossoff … but careful reading shows half the money would go to Grayson (who’s not in a race).
    https://twitter.com/Scott_Maxwell/status/876905123653578752

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud: When you accepted a bribe you actually stayed bought.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Baud:

    It’s a good thing I don’t like Bourbon, because if I liked it I’d drink it, and I hate it.

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    @Baud: Not a big fan of rum, I prefer gin.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @lamh36: I would even give up Luther for a win,. and that’s saying a lot! :-)

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    Steeplejack says:

    @raven:

    Sorry to hear about your BIL. My condolences to your sister and the family.

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    @lamh36: Is he still a Congressman?

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    germy says:

    I was impressed with the CBS Evening News tonight doing a segment on Harriet Tubman. They even interviewed some of her living descendants.

    I didn’t expect to see the segment on a broadcast news show. ABC News was too busy showing two-headed dolphins or something.

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    lamh36 says:

    @Newsweek
    Rex Tillerson wants to work directly with Russia on cybersecurity, even after last year’s hacking http://bit.ly/2stna5E

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule: Guilty. I’m in the pocket of Big Pet.

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    JPL says:

    @Baud: It has definitely been around longer than me.. lol

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    @raven: May he RIP. How is your sister coping? {{{ }}}

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly:

    Very rarely rum at all but someone left this Malibu stuff here a week ago. It looked lonely in the freezer.

    What kind of crazy person sticks alcohol in the freezer?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Love rum. My two favourite hot-weather drinks are (dark) rum and orange juice, and (light) rum and tonic. I enjoy the taste of gin, but my system won’t tolerate it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    I’m in the pocket of Big Pet.

    Tunch had a trust fund?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Comrade! Rum is one of those things that goes well with almost anything.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    I have had a bottle of vodka in the freezer for as long as I can remember. Stays super cold but because it has a much lower freezing point than water it doesn’t harden or even get granular. Perfect for a summer refreshment.

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    You sound like me. Coke is evil. My evil experience was rum and Coke….1980. Felt that I was going to be sick in a political theory class the next morning. Ran out of class. The professor called to check on me later at the dorm. I was so embarrassed…I was such a nerd.

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    Baud says:

    @TenguPhule: A superPAC.

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I keep gin in the freezer. It’s perfect.

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    @schrodingers_cat: remember when he was a progressive hero because he said that mean thing about republicans one time?

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @schrodingers_cat: As do all right-thinking people.

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    JPL says:

    @TenguPhule: It doesn’t freeze.. I had an abundance of cherry tomatoes once, and froze them with vodka . You can take them out of the freezer and serve them on a toothpick with salt. It was quite good.

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    lamh36 says:

    @AlGiordano 54s54 seconds ago
    More
    A fascinating report from Georgia’s 6th District, that shows how women are the vertebral column of #TheResistance:
    https://t.co/tn78DZLByg

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    Steeplejack says:

    Jesus, Chris Hayes is having Bernie Sanders on as a guest yet again. Time to go sort my spork collection and wait for Rachel.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Quinerly:

    Well…knowing what I know now about the sugar content of Coke, that nasty sophomore-in-high-school experience probably saved me from a lifetime of obesity and/or diabetes (diabesity?)

    If I’m ever going to drink whisky (very rarely these days), it’ll be scotch.

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    Baud says:

    @Steeplejack: Oh man, what did we do wrong this time?

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steeplejack:

    Couldn’t you alphebetize your socks for a change?

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    @Baud: Everything.

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    Flanders' other neighbor says:

    @Baud: @WaterGirl:
    Review employee vs contractor on IRS.gov and see if it’s possible they should not pay you as a contractor. Then suggest to the ceo the state labor board might get a call if you’re not fully paid. Costs them a lot to be forced to reclassify a worker. Could cost you a reference so be careful, of course. Labor boards usually side with the worker, but maybe you truly are a contractor and it won’t work.

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    I keep all my light liquors in the freezer. Don’t drink vodka but keep it there with the various kinds of gins for friends. Light liquors are perfect in the freezer. Also keep a bottle of cheap whiskey there too…for egg nog in the winter.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @JPL: Hmm, I wonder if I should try that with some of the sour cherries from my tree?

    edit: my popsicles that were 2/3 peach and 1/3 sour cherry were stupendous!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    It does! I seem to remember pouring dark rum over vanilla bean ice cream once, and enjoying the hell out of it.

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    JPL says:

    @lamh36: Since I have worked locally, I try to be nonpartisan. I also know there are districts near by that he should not have sign wavers, because it’s more likely to encourage the asshole’s folks to turn in and vote. Hopefully the dems have also told him that. I’m tempted to check out a few places near me that went overwhelmingly republican tomorrow.

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    Mike J says:

    @Quinerly: Vodka is good in the freezer because ideally it doesn’t taste like anything. Gin is full of floral aromatics that you want near room temp so you don’t kill the taste/aroma.

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    @lamh36: Hey! None of that identity politics stuff!

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Love Sazeracs in the winter made with rye. It’s supposed to be the first American cocktail…from NOLA. Speaking of classic cocktails…ever had a French 75? Gin and champagne. Yum!

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    JPL says:

    @WaterGirl: It was frozen bloody mary’s and quite good. A great appetizer. I still don’t know about Baud’s rum thing though.

    Baud is Baud though

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Quinerly: @JPL: I know it doesn’t normally freeze, but other then wine, beer and certain liquors with perishable ingredients (like Baileys) in the fridge, I’ve never heard of anyone using their freezer to store hard drinks before. Couldn’t do it here, no room with all the food in it.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The entire content of his message is his local goddamn weather. If he doesn’t say where that is, it’s nothing more than “Southwest is hot,” herp-de-derp.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Did you add a warm gooey fudge brownie to it? If not, be sure to do so soon.

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    ThresherK says:

    @Steeplejack: Bernie has approached “his own mug in the break room ” status. Like Maverick McMaverick on MTP. Is that ever a good thing?

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    @JPL: I made some watermelon granita last year spiked with Merlot and a dash of hot salsa from Chipotle . It was so good!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud:

    Oh man, what did we do wrong this time?

    You forgot to sacrifice the chickens again.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist, says:

    @Steeplejack: Bless his heart, Hayes desperately wants this to be a country where Wilmerism is a viable political movement.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Mike J:
    I have one high dollar gin that stays on the shelf, but the cheaper varieties…Amsterdam and Boodles (my go to gin) stay in the freezer. It’s been that way for at least 20 years…old habits die hard.😈

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly: But where do you keep the ice cream?

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @Steeplejack: Bless his heart, Hayes desperately wants this to be a country where Wilmerism is a viable political movement.

    I was just coming back to post this

    Christopher Hayes‏Verified account @ chrislhayes
    We try every single day to get Senate Republicans to simply come on and explain the bill and defend it. Zero takers. Every day

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Steeplejack:

    Oh, I know. But it could so easily be from Georgia, or (if my New England friends’ FB posts are reliable) anywhere in the Northeastern U.S.

    But I do agree, if people are going to post anything with local content, weather or an obscure political contest or whatever, it would be nice of them to remind the Jackaltariat where they’re from.

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Don’t eat that stuff. Didn’t you know it’s bad for you and hard on your system.😈

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    But where do you keep the ice cream?

    What’s wrong with you? Have you never heard of a second freezer in the garage?

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    TenguPhule says:

    Remember that recent fire in the UK? Guess what the council in charge of it had in reserve. 274,000,000 pounds. Which was used to offer TAX CUTS to the highest tier tax payers.

    The Conservative council responsible for the tower block where at least 79 people died in a fire described by the mayor of London as preventable has stockpiled £274m of reserves and offered rebates to residents paying the top rate of council tax.

    According to the latest accounts, the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea ran a budget surplus, which Labour councillors have claimed was being used as a slush fund to bribe voters with a rebate close to elections.

    I can’t even.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Next time, I promise.

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Get a refrig with a two drawer freezer. That’s what I did.😉 I have a very fun kitchen.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    in a not-unrelated note, Joy Reid makes some twitter friends

    Joy Reid‏Verified account @ JoyAnnReid 7h7 hours ago
    To review:
    -We are edging closer to a multi-national military conflict in Syria at the same time our State Dept is gutted…

    Julian Assange‏ @ JulianAssange 7h7 hours ago
    You did everything in your power to fan this situation by promoting the Russia collusion conspiracy pushing Trump to act against Russia.

    Dock Currie‏ DockCurrie
    Replying to @ AwardsDaily @ JulianAssange @ JoyAnnReid
    Unfortunately 24/7 neoliberal paranoid hysterics from MSNBC aren’t evidence. Nor is cynically instrumentalized identity politics. . .

    “cynically instrumentalized”… I wonder if that’s hot off the speaker’s dais at the recent WilmerCon

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Sick beyond any words.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Have you never heard of a second freezer in the garage?

    I thought that one is for the frozen pizzas, turkeys, hams, sausages, frozen vegetables, fish, instant dumplings and french onion soup.

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    Tenar Arha says:

    @TenguPhule: That opening scene in The Graveyard Book is amazing. And terrifying to read (as an adult). I used to recommend the novel only to 10 and up kids who were fans of scary ghost stories and horror.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Baud: lol!! You always bring the jokes.

    Republican administrations shouldn’t bother pretending to commemorate Juneteenth given how pro-Confederacy they’ve become.

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    @TenguPhule: I assumed you kept corpses in it.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    When Hayes is good…

    Christopher Hayes‏Verified account @ chrislhayes 51m51 minutes ago
    Remember when the House GOP wouldn’t show anyone the bill & @RandPaul went over there looking for it w his copier? It was a whole thing.

    this seems like years ago, it was less than two months, I believe

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Tell me more about these instant dumplings you speak of.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Tenar Arha: That was a classic Gaiman alright. What made it even more creepy was all the stuff implied to be happening but never gone into in great detail in the world building. So many things creeping in the night. The audio version especially was nightmare fuel awesome.

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    Chyron HR says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I sure hope you neoliberals are proud that you PUSHED Trump to do da bad things durrr.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly: Costco Chicken and Pork Gyoza.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major: Only what I plan on eating. We’re not quite that desperate yet.

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    @TenguPhule: Trader Joe’s makes them too.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Major Major Major Major: We have no Trader Joe’s in Hawaii. As you might imagine, we’re a little bitter over this.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Primary Freezer: Booze and ice cream
    Secondary Freezer: Foods with at least a modicum of actual nutritional value

    I like your style, TenguPhule.

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Speaking of chickens, America has a chicken snuggling problem: http://my.chicagotribune.com/#.....-93516386/

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    frosty says:

    @Baud:

    That’s much lower than I would have expected.

    My thought exactly. 54% of rural voters is it?

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    Steeplejack says:

    @Baud:

    Actually, he turned out to be okay this time. I couldn’t rouse myself from the cushy chair and ended up watching it. Bernie raged about the secret Republican cabal that is cooking up its version of the AHCA and managed to avoid blaming all or part of the crisis on the Democrats. He added that the house version of the AHCA was the worst piece of legislation he has ever seen in his life.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    OT: Is tonight the season finale of Better Call Saul? anybody know?

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    Jeffro says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    this seems like years ago, it was less than two months, I believe

    They are “deteriorating faster than they can lower their standards” (h/t Anne Lamott)

    Tax cuts uber alles!!!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly:

    Little did they know, Gwyneth and Moonbeam were rolling around in their own poop, eager to hug-transfer salmonella to the kids who, interestingly enough, are also named Gwyneth and Moonbeam.

    Soon the whole family is barfing on the Subaru ride to the hippie hospital and the two chickens are breaking into the empty house and stealing kitchen knives

    Okay, you got me to laugh.

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    Baud says:

    @Steeplejack: Good news. This would be a good time for him to ask McConnell to look out of his window.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Major Major Major Major:

    …corpses…

    @TenguPhule:

    Only what I plan on eating. We’re not quite that desperate yet.

    Chacun à son goût.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Oh, those dumplings! Love the pork ones…steam them, boil them, fry them…I don’t consider them “instant” though. They are just frozen dumplings. They, along with TJ’s veggie fried rice keep the booze company in the bottom freezer drawer

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    😈

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    TenguPhule says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: We are utterly reliant on imports for our food. Even a light blockade would have us resorting to desperate measures after a few months.

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    frosty says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Quinerly: For me, the worst ever drunk was tequila chased with beer. It took me a year before i could smell a lemon without feeling queasy. Three years later a buddy bought me a shot and it came up as fast as it went down. 10 years later my wife made me a margarita and I took one sip and couldn’t finish it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly:

    …I don’t consider them “instant” though.

    If you don’t have to make them from scratch, they’re instant.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @frosty:

    54% of rural voters is it?

    Half of 54% is….?

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    Quinerly says:

    @TenguPhule:
    Well, you don’t have to get snippy. Find a chicken to snuggle.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @frosty: I had a bad experience with G&Ts during my freshman year. It was a year before I could try one again.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @TenguPhule:

    We are utterly reliant on imports for our food. Even a light blockade would have us resorting to desperate measures after a few months.

    Hawai’ian Oy!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly: That’s pedantic, damnit!

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    Quinerly says:

    @frosty:
    Hmmmm. Did someone say, “tequila?” I got a true story for you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj2700em-JQ

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    For some reason, BJ is the only site I can get to tonight. Everything else refuses to come up. What does this mean?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    What does this mean?

    You’ve been a very naughty girl?

    /Snark

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Flanders’ other neighbor: Well, she did put some stupid stuff in writing toward the end, stuff like their work week starts on Sunday so she wouldn’t pay me for work done on the Saturday, I wrote back and said that as a contractor, it was my prerogative when my work week started, she wrote back to say that it is her prerogative what she would pay for, etc. So I think she has probably left herself vulnerable.

    Thanks for the suggestion, I will go look at the website.

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    frosty says:

    @Quinerly:

    Didn’t you know it’s bad for you and hard on your system.

    Right! Just pass that ice cream over here and we’ll make sure it won’t do you any harm.

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    Quinerly says:

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    It means you need to read all the comments about booze (I blame Baud!) and tell us a drinking story! Also, chicken snuggling is bad. Don’t do it!

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @frosty:

    Sounds as though just about everybody with a really bad “first drunk” experience is, or has been, leery of revisiting any of the ingredients in that initial awful concoction. Someone should do a proper academic survey.

    Falling-Down, Knee-Walking, Commode-Hugging Shitfaced, 1950-1966: A Statistical Analysis.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Flanders’ other neighbor: P.S. I did the math last week – she would probably owe about 9,000 for the employee portion of payroll taxes, and ti would save me that 9k in what I will owe come next April.

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    Quinerly says:

    @frosty:
    I don’t have any in my freezer to pass. Too much booze, fried rice, and “instant dumplings.”

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    Baud says:

    @Quinerly:

    I blame Baud!

    sniff. I feel like I’m the president already.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: YES!

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Followed by a Talking Saul – where some of the actors talk about the show.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Baud: Your LDL levels say otherwise.

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I think we need a musical interlude to prepare for the study: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIrJkNE4Jk

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Quinerly:

    and tell us a drinking story!

    College, 2 large bottles of sake bought by a friend and a drinking challenge.

    Laughing and pissing. Thankfully not at the same time.

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    Gin & Tonic says:

    @Quinerly: My advice, take it or leave it. Do not drink tequila in a bar named “Speedy’s.”

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    @TenguPhule: @Quinerly: This is the second time I tried to respond, but it appears BJ is dying on me too. Perhaps I should contact my internet provider.

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    frosty says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: Excellent thesis suggestion! And to be honest, mine wasn’t a “first drunk” experience, or even a first porcelain convenience experience. Just the worst one. It also involved falling down a flight of 14 concrete stairs, riding my bike back to my apartment in the middle of the night, and dumping it at least twice, once in the middle of the road.

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    WaterGirl says:

    Drinking stories:

    When my beloved cocker spaniel died after being hit by a car when I was 21, my friends thought it was a good idea to take me out to get me drunk. Thirteen (count ’em, 13) 7-and-7s later, I was home puking my guts out and had the dry heaves for 2 days. Even when I tended bar, I could not tolerate the smell of anything in that family.

    I worked at the pizza place when I was also 21 and I was dating the manager and we were all at a party drinking shots of tequila when I (apparently not-so-quietly) whispered in his ear some version of ‘tonight’s the night’ because I had gotten on the pill and this was the first night that we were safe and then everyone I worked with knew everything. oops. oh, well. I still drink tequila, though I prefer it in margaritas.

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    @TenguPhule: I find Gaiman’s prose vastly overrated. I agree with a friend who described American Gods as “mythological tourism.”

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    raven says:

    Fucking amateurs.

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    frosty says:

    @Quinerly: You misunderstood. I was encouraging TP to pass HIS ice cream to US. I’m sure we could find a way to keep him safe from it.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: The Graveyard book and Neverwhere are vastly different kettles of fish to American Gods.

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    Quinerly says:

    @WaterGirl:
    See 208….tequila!

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    TenguPhule says:

    @frosty:

    You misunderstood. I was encouraging TP to pass HIS ice cream to US.

    You can have it when you pry it from my cold sugary & creamy fingers.

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    Quinerly says:

    @frosty:
    Ok. That’s better. Just make sure he hasn’t been cuddling a chicken before he passes it.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    BJ per se hasn’t died on me, but all day today after a few minutes my iPad has been cutting out on me and just going to black. Could be solitaire or a word game, FTFNYT or WaPo, email, Facebook, BJ or other blogs, my photo library, Kindle app, doesn’t matter. They all work just fine for a few and then cut out. So annoying.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Baud:

    on’t really know then. If you were an employee, there would probably be a state agency you could complain to.

    US DOL. They don’t mess around.

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    JMG says:

    My first experience with tequila wasn’t until I was 24, and this young woman I liked had me to her house for dinner, and being a Southern California girl, made a pitcher of margaritas. Then another one. We wound up driving from her house in Swampscott (Boston North Shore suburb) to Logan Airport to see if the clergyperson in charge of the chapel did weddings. At 3 a.m., he didn’t, not being there. Just as well in the long run.

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    Another Scott says:

    @amygdala:

    Autopsy rates have been falling for a long time.

    I’m not sure that’s true any more. There has been such a backlog of autopsies in many places due to all the opiod/opiate ODs that “normal” autopsies can take weeks/months

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    frosty says:

    @raven:

    Fucking amateurs.

    Yep. I pulled up before I hit the bottom that put my brother and sister on the wagon.

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    raven says:

    @frosty: Been on it for 26 years.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Steve in the ATL: So if she doesn’t pay me, you think I could go to the Dept of Labor, even though I am paid as a contractor?

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    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism says:

    @zhena gogolia: Are you the person I was talking with about key changes in Hamilton? If so, have you seen the YouTube series How Hamilton Works?

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    frosty says:

    @raven: Congrats.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Yes, this is the finale and I’m not kidding when adding am wearing my LWYRUP tshirt as I type this.

    I had to ‘splain it to a nice lady a couple weeks back while walking the dog, but if you haven’t seen either show….

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    Quinerly says:

    @raven:
    Congrats!

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    lamh36 says:

    President Trump’s White House media blackout has reporters talking mutiny http://thebea.st/2tm0eWd

    Uh huh… talk is cheap…

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    raven says:

    @frosty: You also can’t blame shit on drinking. One of my good buddies who got sober 10 years before I do says that he never has that really deep laugh that he used to. One of the only times I had any urge was when I was at a conference in Madison and sat out behind the union on the picnic tables over looking the lake. There were a couple tables full of people just laughing an carrying on. There was a brief twinge but it passed.

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    raven says:

    @Quinerly: It’s just normal, nothing more.

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    trollhattan says:

    @Quinerly:
    Ah Boodles–the go-to gin for a long while when Trader Joe’s had it for $9.99. Bombay Sapphire was a good stand-in and then a friend turned me on to Hendricks. (Pro tip: Costco carries it in weirdly large 1.75L bottles) It’s G&T season and skeeters are everywhere but my lime tree doesn’t produce for another two months. White linens in the meantime.

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    Barbara says:

    @raven: On this I happily lay claim to being an amateur. I have never had more than four glasses of anything on any day of my life.

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    WaterGirl says:

    You know, I thought I had left the trauma behind me (trauma of the huge tree falling on my house 4 years ago) but it suddenly got dark a few minutes ago and strong winds came up and just like that my breathing sped up and I felt flushed.

    I immediately get up to get my kitties off the screened-in porch but by the time I got to the door they were running inside. The sky is is now bright again but with a disturbing yellow tint. I just pulled my vehicle up under the carport just in case something crazy happens. Breathing is back to normal so maybe I was right and I have left most of the trauma behind.

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    John Weiss says:

    @ThresherK: You need no steenkin’ authority. You don’t need a badge.

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    Kay says:

    The Senate bill to scale back the health-care law known as Obamacare is being written in secret by a single senator, Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and a clutch of his senior aides.
    Officials at numerous agencies of the Trump administration have stonewalled friendly Republicans in Congress — not to mention Democrats — by declining to share internal documents on sensitive matters or refusing to answer questions.
    President Trump, meanwhile, is still forbidding the release of his tax returns, his aides have stopped releasing logs of visitors to the White House and his media aides have started banning cameras at otherwise routine news briefings, as happened Monday.

    Where are all the transparency advocates who were so vocal and diligent during Obama’s two terms and Clinton’s campaign?

    They’re writing a law that will impact tens of millions of people and 1/6 of the US economy and they’re doing it completely in the dark. It pulls lower income access to healthcare. It takes away at least 6 k in value from people who make 15k a year in wages and redistributes that to the top 1%.

    Surely this is more vital an issue than Clinton campaign emails. You would think some news agency would use all those profits they’re pulling in off of Donald Trump’s hijinks and sue for access to information. They’re just not interested in what’s in the national health care rewrite? That’s secret now?

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    SFBayAreaGal says:

    @WaterGirl: If you like Bones, their series finale was great.

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    frosty says:

    @raven: I can see that the social aspect of quitting could be tough, but my brother just hangs out with his club soda and lime. Like you said, just normal, nothing more.

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    Jeffro says:

    @lamh36: why don’t they all boycott, and then spend their precious airtime noting how historically OFF THE RAILS this administration is? No more debating (or hell, even READING) bills in the Senate, of all places…no more CBO scores…no more press conferences…no more agencies and departments that even try to fulfill their purpose…no more filling government positions…no more backing NATO…no more opposing totalitarian dictators and making human rights a priority…no more honoring our treaties and agreements…

    …come on, cable news, we know you’re not up for a complex message so lemme boil it down for you: it’s the JOKER ADMINISTRATION. These clowns just want to watch the world burn.

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @raven: Have the ice cream; it’s really good – made on campus.

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    Steeplejack says:

    @WaterGirl:

    I don’t understand why the starting day of the work week makes a difference. If you did work on Saturday, does it matter if it was day 6 or day 7 of the week? You should still get paid for it, right?

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Kay:

    Where are all the transparency advocates who were so vocal and diligent during Obama’s two terms and Clinton’s campaign?

    Counting the money in their pockets. IOIYAR.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    quire every poster to enter their current location & add that to the line with their nym

    Great idea!

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    raven says:

    From Pete Hammil’s “A Drinking Life”

    More than twenty years have gone by since I stopped drinking. My father died at eighty; my mother lives on. I’m happily married to a wonderful woman and work even harder than I did when young. But life doesn’t get easier when you walk away from the culture of drink; you simply live it with greater lucidity.

    I started writing this book when some of my friends from the drinking life began to die. They were decent, talented, generous, and humane. But as they approached the end, physically ruined by decades of drinking, I remembered more of their good times than they did. In a way, this book is about them too.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Jeffro:

    it’s the JOKER ADMINISTRATION.

    Worse, they’re not that clever.

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @WaterGirl: no, if you’re a contractor it’s just a breach of contract case. Sorry!

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    Omnes Omnibus says:

    @Steve in the ATL: You seem to be in Boston all the time.

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    raven says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: It was years ago. The thing that sucked was that, normally, the conference was help at the Union Hotel (or some campus place like that) but it was under renovation and we had to stay at some place 15 miles from campus and get bused back and forth. It was incredibly hot and the rides were school buses with no AC.

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    ArchTeryx says:

    And I go to bed thanking God for the job, because otherwise I’d be writing my suicide note about now. I didn’t intend to go down the way the GOP death squad wanted me gone, and I am still looking nervously over the gunwales of my lifeboat. If they tank the economy, wreck my state gov. job and/or the employer healthcare market, AND destroy Medicaid, my lifeboat could go down as surely as the ship is going down.

    Not taking anything for granted at this point. I’m not safe. Nobody is any more.

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    Kay says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Assange must be really upset that Trump is just a standard Republican, except more incompetent and corrupt and less transparent. Heck, if they wanted these policies they coulda had Jeb Bush or John Kasich who would at least have followed applicable laws.

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    Betty Cracker says:

    Our own Tom Levenson is schooling some climate change skeptics on Twitter.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Uncle Cosmo: Who gives a shit?

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    Jeffro says:

    @Kay: It’s a little late, but we clearly need to rebrand the whole thing as “MitchCare”

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    Steve in the ATL says:

    @Omnes Omnibus: so often that my wife was wearing a Red Sox shirt at Lake Oconee this weekend!

    ETA: which is in Georgia

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    Barbara says:

    @ArchTeryx: I keep meaning to tell you how pleased I was to hear that you are now working at a job that gives you peace of mind on health coverage.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Steeplejack: I absolutely agree with you!! But that’s not why she’s not paying. She finally agreed that she would pay me for that.

    She’s just holding the 1,500 she owes because she’s a control freak and I’m sure she’s pissed that I left and because she wants to fuck with me and apparently feels like she can. I am beyond pissed.

    First she said I would get the money a week ago Friday. Then she wrote to say that without a bookkeeper it was going to take them awhile ti figure out how to write checks. I suggested they could be hand-written and entered into the bookkeeping system at a later date. Then she wrote to say that their new temporary bookkeeper had a list of checks to write but she was sure I would get my checks within 30 days. She’s just fucking with me.

    They have 700,000 of grant money that needs to be spent before June 30, so they sure as hell are writing checks. I truly loathe this woman. She’s the one who – when I objected to the yelling and slamming of doors – said that she was the CEO, it was her building, and those are her doors, and she will slam them when she pleases.

    What a piece of work. I’ll say one thing for her though, that gig paid for my new porch.

    edit: corrected mismatch of subject verb tense.

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    Corner Stone says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    so often that my wife was wearing a Red Sox shirt at Lake Oconee this weekend!

    Pro-tip: that’s not why she is wearing that shirt.

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    ArchTeryx says:

    @Barbara: It’s only a very loose peace of mind, because a) Hundreds of thousands are still going to die when Medicaid goes away completely, as McConnell wants to do, and b) I’m first hired, which means I’m first fired if the economy completely goes south, and without the Medicaid backstop, this could all turn pear-shaped in a hurry.

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    Mike J says:

    @Kay:Don’t get overconfident, but hope isn’t lost:

    Topher Spiro‏Verified account @TopherSpiro 25 minutes ago
    1: Based on what I’m hearing, I’d wager a 55% chance we defeat Trumpcare. Razor close but winnable.

    The theory is that Yertle wants it over with, and will call a vote even if he doesn’t have the numbers.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Mike J:

    The theory is that Yertle wants it over with, and will call a vote even if he doesn’t have the numbers.

    And who are the magical three who will defect?

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    @ArchTeryx: Nonetheless, we’re happy for you. :-)

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    Gelfling 545 says:

    @JPL: It’s a big deal here in Buffalo. Enormous celebration in MLK Park.

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    raven says:

    @Steve in the ATL: I used to put in at Swords and Redlands and kill the paper mouths. That was before the fucking runoff from the goddamn golf course fucked up the fishing.

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    Mike J says:

    @TenguPhule:

    Topher Spiro‏ Verified account @TopherSpiro 22 minutes ago
    4: I’m hearing the holdouts as of right now are CAPITO, FLAKE, COLLINS, MURKOWSKI, and HELLER. They need to hear from you!

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    Quinerly says:

    @trollhattan:
    Throw about 5 drops of Peychaud’s Bitters in that G&T (plus extra lime) and you got yourself a “St. Charles”….an old school NOLA classic cocktail. Great summer drink!

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    WaterGirl says:

    @ArchTeryx: I guess their problem with ‘uncertainty’ starts and ends with businesses or when the markets feel the uncertainty. Sociopaths, all of them.

    What people do with power is very telling, and history will not be kind to them. Of course, that won’t help the people whose lives will be devastated if they get what they want. I cannot believe their wives (spouses) aren’t leaving them and their children haven’t stopped speaking to them.

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    ArchTeryx says:

    @Iowa Old Lady: They’re wondering why the hell a PhD is tearing into a boring, bog-standard secretary job like his life depended on it. Because very soon, it will. They don’t need to know that little detail, but they know I have active Crohn’s; they’re not stupid, and know without healthcare I die horribly.

    They deal with people with all manner of mental and physical infirmities. They know how perilous the lives of the poor are. It just boggles them that one of the people in such desperate straits is a white dude with a PhD.

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    Phylllis says:

    @WaterGirl:

    They have 700,000 of grant money that needs to be spent before June 30, so they sure as hell are writing checks.

    Well this is some bulls*t, because unless they were just awarded the funds a month ago, it means they haven’t been fulfilling the terms of the grant the way they said they would. Bet a program person for the foundation or agency would be interested to know about this.

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    TenguPhule says:

    @Mike J: Word was that collin and murkowski are already factored into Mitch the Shit’s count. I’m afraid its another Football, Charlie Brown.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Phylllis: You are so right. This is a huge temptation for me, especially because I have a very good relationship with the folks at one of the granting agencies and I have had previous email correspondence with the group that gave them the 1.2 million dollar grant.

    I am struggling with the ethics of involving the granting organizations.

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    bupalos says:

    @SiubhanDuinne: That is simply impossible. June 19th can’t be an American holiday and has to remain a quaintly unspecific “black” fake-holiday because America’s horrid infatuation with the idea of “race” didn’t end or come close to ending or even have a significant transformation on that day or in that era, and practically hasn’t since, not in the decisive sense. You can’t even tell right now where that datapoint lies on the graph. Was it at the beginning, middle, end? Who knows. One is tempted to say that was the beginning, and this is the end. Which is horrible, and means the beginning was the beginning of…not much. An amelioration of evil, a sublimation of it to a level where it could persist and be denied.

    I’m mostly reticent to celebrate because it’s supposed to be an end. An end of what? An end to the total, 100% legal consensus that it’s OK to flay me alive because the shade of my skin or my mother’s skin or my mother’s skin was a little darker than the norther euro ideal? Great. I mean, better than what went before, but it feels a little wrong to celebrate it, especially now. Like how, even now- knowing how critical it was and how everything turned out- we don’t really “celebrate” the British escape from dunkirk or the day Einstein left Germany.

    If June 19th was conceived of as a beginning, the moment “white” America took one big step on the hundred mile journey to not being completely ignorant, and self-destructively hypocritical (a journey that 150 years later isn’t all that much closer to being complete) then I could be onboard. But that’s really not what it is, and when you step back and lok at it, that “journey” doesn’t actually have a lot of important steps. Take how ever many stutter-steps you want, the issue is the one great leap. June 19th as the day “America technically entered a new legal arrangement with its blacks” isn’t much. That formulation is as much a symptom of a continuing disease as a celebration. June 19th as the day America started to realize who it was, realized what it had been doing to itself, realized what a deluded, empty lie we stumbled into and lay in thrall to, for how long, and how it hollowed out its soul and made all American lives worse and made many literally unbearable. THAT would be a day to celebrate.

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    O/T, just saw that Spicer is apparently OUT as Press Secy (possibly going to be WH Communications Director?)

    Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?

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    Phylllis says:

    @WaterGirl: Get your money, then make the call.

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    Brachiator says:

    @lamh36:

    ..Oooh…Face Off was on one of the cable nets last month…I’ve been meaning to re-watch it…

    Missed the fun discussion. Crazy John Woo directed film, directed with a lot of fun flourishes. John Travolta and Nick Cage were game and played the crazy premise to the hilt.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Phylllis: What would I say on the call?

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    Brachiator says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    .
    Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?

    I am waiting for Trump’s Twitter message.

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    Sab says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:That Dock Currie comment is amazingly nonsensical. Word-salad with six-syllable words are still word-salad.

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    Phylllis says:

    @WaterGirl: That it would be in their interest to send a program officer to do a monitoring visit, to include reviewing a timeline of expenditures and program activities.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist says:

    @WaterGirl: Thanks, WG

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    SiubhanDuinne says:

    @Brachiator:

    .

    Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?

    I am waiting for Trump’s Twitter message.

    Sorry, I’ll talk louder. Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @raven: My condolences to your BIL’s loved ones.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Phylllis: Thank you! I saved your comment from #295 for future reference.

    It has also occurred to me that I could write to the 1.2 million grant person, letting her know that I am no longer with the nonprofit but that I know continuity is important, so I will make myself available if they have any questions.

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    debbie says:

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Couldn’t she take the CEO to small claims?

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It hasn’t been renewed yet, but from what I heard on the most recent Talking Saul I can’t imagine that it won’t be renewed.

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    Quinerly says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    WAPO reporting it.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @lamh36: To be honest, any media that took part in the farce of a press conference which could not be televised or recorded is useless and should shut down.

    Why the MSM is playing along with Trump’s charade is beyond me since he keeps insulting them by calling them “fake news” anyways.

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    Quinerly says:

    I’m a bit shocked that atty Abbe Lowell would represent Kushner. Looks like he’s considering it.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Patricia Kayden:

    To be honest, any media that took part in the farce of a press conference which could not be televised or recorded is useless and should shut down.

    Absolutely! Have they forgotten that their whole existence is to REPORT on what happens, and that if they aren’t allowed to do that, then they need to get the hell out and report on the fact that they aren’t being allowed to report?

    They are a big part of the problem. I know everyone knows that already, but still, it took all the restraint I could muster not to shout that in all caps.

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    Quinerly says:

    Oh my! An old friend, Ed Dowd (atty from St. Louis) is on LOD.

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    WaterGirl says:

    @Quinerly: I can’t believe anyone would have anything to do with these slime buckets. Not working for them, advising them, representing them.

    Did they learn nothing in grade school????? The cooties are catching.

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    Patricia Kayden says:

    @Kay: Republicans really feel empowered to get away with nonsense like this. It’s a shame that Americans don’t hold them accountable for their actions and keep rewarding them with votes. Unfortunately they can do anything they want now that they’re in control of Congress.

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    efgoldman says:

    @Quinerly:

    I’m a bit shocked that atty Abbe Lowell would represent Kushner.

    Why? Doesn’t she like money?

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    I’m not sure I said anything about the key changes, but I do want to look at what you posted some time when I’m not about to go to bed!

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    Brachiator says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    ..Sorry, I’ll talk louder. Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?

    Melissa McCarthy?

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    Davebo says:

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    It’s on the front page of the CNN site.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/.....index.html

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    Steeplejack says:

    Ossoff is going to be on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show tonight. (It’s on now, but he hasn’t appeared yet.)

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    trollhattan says:

    @Quinerly:
    Thanks! Noted and flagged. We’ve gathered a pretty good bitters collection–who knew it was a thing? Grapefruit bitters and celery bitters are favs.

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    BlueDWarrior says:

    @Patricia Kayden: because we don’t have liberal ownership that would recognize things for what they are with the administration. The best we could hope for is individual reporters trying to shame other individual reporters into pulling out until the admin gets their life together, but fat lot of that happening beyond the big boys with some institutional history to preserve.

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    Mike J says:

    @TenguPhule: It’s not another football unless they’re asking you to do something you don’t want to do. We want to beat it. It’s not over yet. Let’s go beat it.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Mike J:

    Yeah. I wish I weren’t preaching to the choir with my own senators. But then I’m glad that’s the case.

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    zhena gogolia says:

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    That looks fascinating! Bookmarked it and will try to remember to return when I’m awake!

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    Quinerly says:

    @trollhattan:
    Peychaud’s is an old NOLA one. I think originally made in a drugstore/apothecary. Most liquor stores carry it. Oddly the ABC stores in NC don’t. I travel from St. Louis to NC with a bottle. Great summer addition to G&T.

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    Quinerly says:

    @efgoldman:
    Well, actually Abbe Lowell is a he. Rather famous atty. He has plenty of money. Been around many, many years.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbe_Lowell

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    @TenguPhule:
    Gaimen is a short story writer. It’s a problem I’ve had to fight, myself. I do it by treating a book as a short story built out of short stories. Gaimen does it by packing as many extra short stories as he can into a book, usually as origin story style flashbacks. American Gods is particularly bad about that, while Graveyard Book is fairly single-topic. I love Graveyard Book and Coraline.

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    MoxieM says:

    @ArchTeryx: … they don’t even wonder when you’re female (in my experience). Female = support staff, regardless of the number of initials after your name. They just assume you fucked up your life somehow. Which may or may not be true (in addition to chronic health stuff.) Moreover, if you do have all those advanced degrees, it can even count against you, and you do hear people telling you to take it off the resumé, more than once. Yeah, to hell with those 10 years or so. Pointless!

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    Flanders' other neighbor says:

    @WaterGirl:
    That’s right. And it’s a big deal these days. Check the state labor board for similar information. Two sides to every story and all that, but I hate when people play games as an employer.

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    amygdala says:

    @Another Scott: MEs were busy even before the opioid epidemic. I was referring to autopsies not involving the ME, and was sloppily unclear. We didn’t get that many of those when I was in training, but we got some, and it was instructive. Now, docs tend not to even ask, even in teaching hospitals. We’ve lost an important feedback mechanism as a result.

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